[laughter] its been over a week since the Obama Administration got Sergeant Bowe bergdahl released after yearly five years in taliban prison after being captured while away without leave from his base in afghanistan. What was he up to that night . Its foreign wait and get the facts here. We would all be best serves to know all the facts before we judge. Jon yeah, no, we could do that. [laughter] yeah, we could do that. Or. What we do know is he was a deserter. Looks like a deserter or traitor or both. Likes like he has turned. Converted to islam. Collaborated with his enemies. Flatout antiamerican. In some respects a modernday lee harvey oswald. [laughter] jon in just a few day, Bowe Bergdahl went from guy who left base without permission to muslim terrorist kennedy assassin. [laughter] thats actually not bad look for oswald. That remarkably fast transformation is the subject of tonights operation deserter storm. Of course, the story of bergdahls traitorous terror conversion wouldnt be as credible if his father was not a highranking taliban official. Many are wondering about Bowe Bergdahls dads beards, noting a strong and eerie resemblance to the beards worn by the taliban. [laughter] jon i dont know if id say strong and eerie. Its a beard. It doesnt mean he looks like a muslim. He absolutely looks like a muslim. Jon really . I dont know, man. I get more of an amish vibe off of that, Russian Orthodox or any of the thousand other religions where people have beards. Or a red sox. Aside from the beard, do you have any specific reason for saying he looks muslim. The reason i said that that Robert Bergdahl looks like a muslim is that he looks like a muslim. [cheering and applause] jon hes a muslim because he looks like a muslim. Okay. I cant really argue with that logic because its impenetrable. But you do know obviously not all muslims have beards, and not all people with beards are muslim. Thats the reason we call this the Abraham Lincoln memorial and not the holy shrine of the blessed imam ibraham lincoln. Because, really, if youre looking for bearded guys who killed a lot of americans. [audience reacts] by the way, bergdahls father is worse than being muslimlooking, hes muslimlooking and an enabler. Im curious. At one point his father told him before he went missing, obey your conscience, which kind of stowdz some, yeah, whatever you want to do, go ahead. Jon yeah, sure, no, no, no. It sounds that way to some, you know, specifically people who dont know what a conscience is. [laughter] because if someone says listen to your conscience, theyre not saying do whatever you want. Your conscience is the opposite of the thing that tells you to do whatever you want to do. Do you understand what im saying . Your id is the thing that enables your darkest impulses, your id. Think of it as like the fox news of your brain. [laughter] let your conscience be your guide jon i knew this was going to be here. Hey. Whats up . Hi, there jon. Say, can i ask you a question . Sure, jiminy. Why do you still watch these guys . Jon i dont know . Do you think theyre going to change . At this point your obsession sayings as much about you as it says about them. What . Do you have an anger fetish . You have to stop ingesting their poison. Jon i know. All right. Im going to go jerk off with a noose around my neck so i can pass out when i [bleeped]. Jon what . I mean, counsel a wooden boy. [whistling] jon i cant believe how badly. I cant believe how badly my conscience needs a conscience. You know, perhaps fox is right to be wary of bergdahls dad. After all, when he was invited to the white house, he did Say Something strange. Id like to say beau right now, who is having trouble speaking english, bismillah alrahman alrahim. [laughter] jon oh, no you did not what was that part there, buddy boy . Can we get translation on that . Every time muslims conquer a place and location, they would stand and read the fatah basically declaring the greatness of allah over that land. So what the father of bergdahl did is exactly that, which the taliban and the islamist radicals all throughout the world will perceive as a victory standing on the steps of the white house. Jon [bleeped]. While we were focused on Bowe Bergdahl, his father cast some kind of Muslim Harry Potter curse and conquered the white house. White house down olympus has fallen. Fancy house is in the toilet. That one hasnt been made yet. Although that would be a good one. And the president s reaction to bergdahls verbal conquest of america did not go unnoticed. And the president , you can see the president smiling there as he says it. Jon yes. Yes, sean hannity. Thats the president of the United States, smiling, as his comrade delivers the muslim war conquer call in the rose garden, thus handing control of the United States of america to radical islam. Is that what you were trying to say . I just want to make sure im receiving the full subtext. We all know if bush was still in office the muslim conquer victory call would never have been delivered im sorry. Really . Okay. Go. Welcome. Bismillah alrahman alrahim. Bismillah. Bismillah alrahman alrahim. Thank you for the great honor. Bismillah alrahman alrahim. Bismillah alrahman alrahim. Bismillah we will not let grew let him go [cheering and applause] [clears throat] mama muslim mama muslim mama muslim let him go so it turns out that thats less a conquering war cry than one of your standard offering of blessings. By the way, all this is only out of concern for americas safety. Weve let loose five taliban hardened killers. The taliban are going to be right back there and americas going to be in the bulls eye. This is great danger to American National security, not just in kidnapped american, but in attacks on american soil. Yeah, you know what, i guess that could be. There could be takes on american soil, but now that theyre out, the islamic extremist threat is boundless. They could shout for revolution at any place while attacking americans. The ledly Las Vegas Shooting over the weekend mark rid couple yelling, this is a revolution as they gunned two two policemen at a pizza place. The two claim to have been involved in standoff at bundys ranch. Jon dont worry about that. Because we need to protect this country from terrorists with beards. Well be right back. Look to the sky. Listen to the trees. Searching for that great tasting ten calories. Bold flavor, 10 calories. Dr pepper ten taste the bold country brewed for more this ispirited nights. Tune. Its undistilled, yet it has a smooth clean finish. You might choose a regular beer, but then you might get a regular night. Miller fortune. Your fortune awaits. Welcome back. Obviously the bergdahl release has been an issue of controversy. But if theres one thing everyone can agree on, its they would have done it better. Bad deal. A big mistake. I was not satisfied. I would have done everything short of endanger the National Security of the United States. I wouldnt release these men. Ever . Not these men. We can go in and use military force. Jon turns out we could have done everything, but the thing we did. The one thing we shouldnt have done. Were so stupid. Its like that guy, whats this button do. No dont press that button. Thats the bad button. And its not just obama who screwed this whole pooch. Bergdahls dad again. Ive got a 26yearold son, and if my son is out on the wire and he is out there with fellow troops and he writes me up and says he hates america and hes thinking about deserting and hes thinking about leaving his post, i can tell you as father of that 26yearold or 23yearold son, id say, joey, you stay the hell right there. I would call his commander. I would say, get my son, hes not well, get him to a military base in germany. Jon and they would do it. Because if theres one thing this military does is take order from fathers who call them up. [laughter] dude, you probably couldnt even get Little League coaches to do what you want. Just play him. We have Team Coverage from washington, d. C. Guys, nice see you. [cheering and applause] so all this monday morning quarterback, is this the right deal for administration to do . No. Jon, im going to respect fri disagree with jason because the answer is hell. No obama gave up five pieces of top taliban talent. Huge mistake. If i had been president , i would have gotten bergdahl back for some second stringer like abd alrahim alnashiri and whatevers in my pocket. Looks like 1. 75. Thats a way too much. I would have gotten him back for an 8 gig iphone 3 and pack of gum, and not even good gum, the gum that squirts that toothpastey jizz in your mouth, that gum. Jon its called freshen up, and some of us happen to think that was an advance in gum technology. Ew, jon, ew. Jon what if the taliban wasnt willing to trade their prisoner . Make em do it. [bleeped] nice one, jay. Jon bergdahl father . Oh, you mean beardie mctaliban . Thats guys a tool, jon. Hes Neville Chamberlain of guys who do anything to rescue their p. O. W. Son. Jon, ill tell you one thing, if my son up and walked off his post, id make that kid sit down and smoke a whole carton of cigarettes. Jon uhhuh. Uhhuh. I dont know what that would help. Oh, okay, now youre going to tell me how the raise my kids, jon . Jon no, bergdahl, the guys a p. O. W. What was he supposed to do . Theres plenty, jon. Its taliban prison. Securitys probably pretty loose. Lets say it is. And there he is, the hostage, his lean body bronzed from the harsh afghan sun. Hes wrapped in chains. A close angle on his surprisingly muscular arm. He flex, shattering the bonds that hold him against his will. Oh, no, he didnt. Uhhuh. Suddenly 20 guards appear out of the mist. I summon my years of karate training. Jon wait, what . Youre there now . Is bergdahl stuck in prison or you . It doesnt matter, jon. My manly fists fly. Give em some of that. Then id do this. Then id rip my [bleeped] pants. I really ripped my pants. Jon i know. Thats why you are not going over there. You would be in a tunic. Youd be wearing a tunic. Id do backflip off the roof and slowly rotate through the air as i mow down my remaining captors. Cue the smoke and there she stands. A totally hot taliban lady played by sophia vargara. And i think you know what that means. [humming porn music]. 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Or maybe thats natures way of weeding out the timid. Your fortune awaits. [cheering and applause] jon welcome back. My guest tonight, bestselling awe thork his new book is called the rule of nobody saving america from dead laws and broken government rule. Please welcome back to the program philip k. Howard. Sir. [cheering and applause] im excited about this. Im excited when you come by. Me and you, were going to fix this. The rule of nobody saving america from dead laws and broken government. Whenever we talk, i am struck by the fact that when i read your books, when i listen to you speak, i cant help but think of us as nation of idiots. [laughter] what has gone wrong with the people of Good Intention . Because i think we are still a people of Good Intention. Well, at some level deep in our id, we dont want anyone else to make a decision, so we tried to create a system of automatic government where correctness would be laid out in advance and everything would be perfect and no one would be unhappy at their jobs. You know, government would never make a mistake. Of course, the problem is in making that system, government does nothing but make mistakes. Jon so we have, in an attempt to control for each outcome, have created an unexpected outcome that we didnt intend to create . Right. Paralysis. Jon yes. [laughter] but is the answer then. Are our only two choices a paralyzed, bureaucratic satire of a government or an 1890s sixyearold . Sure. They can work. What is our middle ground . Where do we go . The middle ground is. The constitution is an open framework of goals and principles. Its ten pages now. The vocal rule is 980 pages. Law is supposed to be framework within which people take responsibility. And then you hold in the democratic process people responsible for whether they succeed in running the agency properly or whatever. But we have taken away the authority that goes with the responsibility with literally hundreds of millions of words of law, so that its become this vast vat of legal quicksand. It gets thicker every year. Its a progressive disease. It is worse now than 20 years ago. It will be worse next year. Jon why cant we go in, to use a george bush parlance, and clear the brush . [laughter] why cant we go in there and clear some of the dead wood . Is there anyone who can exercise any sense of Administrative Authority or Bureaucratic Authority . Not until we have the idea that we need to go clean it out and restore, one, human responsibility and reset our priorities. What we now have is all these laws piling on top of each other with increasing amounts of detail, so that democracy at this point is basically run by dead people. Its the people who wrote all of these laws over the last 30, 40, 50, 60 years that literally dictate how you run the v. A. Or how you do procurement of i. T. Systems. Jon but is there no process in place where common sense the v. A. Is an excellent example. Theres a huge backlog. They decide to incentivize quicker wait times at the local v. A. S while increasing the number of benefits available to people and clearly increasing the number of people who need treatment through two wars. Does anyone have a macro view of that and think, oh, those are all at crosspurposes. Were never going to be able to accomplish that . Apparently not. [laughter] jon all right. I thought there would be a little more detail in that. All right. I thought wed get into the nittygritty. But isnt that what. Then what are they doing . Theyre setting metrics and putting in all these rules and expect that people can comply with all the rules and get the job done. Thats not how anybody. Not in the history of the universe has anyone accomplished something by following a rule. They roll up their sleeves, they take responsibility, and they figure out what the resources are to take care of the v. A. , and they do the best job and that report and say, you know, its impossible to keep the waiting times to 14 days if we have backlog of 1,000 people here. And they actually report honestly and theyre held accountable for how well they do given the resources, not some arbitrary metric, which is what happened here. Jon so are standards always anathema . Ill give you an example of somebody in the city, and this may be a poor one, our grading system on restaurants a, b, c, d. I dont know what you need to do to get that grade, but i will tell you this i stopped eating at bs about a year ago. [laughter] it feels like its working. It feels like a bureaucratic system that has set some standards to achieve and has done it, and its simple and its the alphabet. Lord knows i love the alphabet. [laughter] yeah. Well, it is important that law be comprehensible, and it is important that people who are in charge of law, the bureaucrats, whoever, be able to exercise their responsibility in determining whether a restaurant meets sanitary codes and such, and they give us a letter grade and the public can see if there is a letter grade and that can make a judgment. Thats. Government should work that way. So from what im hearing, the way we fix this is everybody gets a grade, a through f, and we just start weeding through the damn things. Weve got go to commercial, but on the web youll explain how that will work correctly, yes . Yes. Jon good man. The rule of nobody, its on bookshelves now. Its great. You got to get it. Philip k. Howard. Well be back. After the role of a life time, ive been, busy. Xbox, on so i look forward to my downtime. Xbox, go to titanfall. This is insane. Check this out xbox, snap tv. 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