So, the guy who killed all those people monday with a shotgun he legally purchased two days before that, warning signs . Alexis families has told investigators he suffered from Mental Illness for a decade. Jon a decade of Mental Illness. Thats peculiar. Wouldnt there be a paper trail for ten years of psychiatric issues. He sought and received treatment through the department of veterans affairs. Jon oh. [laughter] so the v. A. Lots of paper, not a lot of trail. Well, at least the shooter had no legal issues that might preclude him from gun ownership. Twice he was arrested in minor shooting incidents, in salt until 2004 and in texas in 2010. Jon you know, if i wanted to pick out one thing that best exemplifies our countrys relationship with guns, it might be this the phrase minor shooting incident exists. It was just a couple bullets, you know what i mean . I had to turn the tv off and i didnt want to get up and get the remote so. What exactly constitutes a minor shooting incidents . Shooting in an apartment, harassing a coworker by shooting out his tires. Jon shooting someones tires out is not harassment. Harassment of a construction worker, is hey, thats a nice hard hat, does it come in mens colors. Thats harassment. The texas shooting case led to alexis discharge from the navy reserves. Jon oh, well then i guess the navy as per standard procedure had those records mulched and fed to hungry dolphins where the records were pooped on to the ocean floor. You know what, thats all in the past. Thats the past. Theres probably nothing within the past month that would have given pause to the shot gun background checkers. Just last month there was an incident in newport, rhode island. Alexis called police there on august 7th to say he was hearing voices and that people were talking him and using a microwave to send vibrations into his body. [laughter] jon this is why i use a hibachi. [laughter] because when it tells me to kill people, it speaks in a language i dont understand. So if only all our Law Enforcement systems had been able to communicate with one another and share all this very pertinent information, a reasonable might conclude the shooter never would have gotten his hands on that shotgun. Unless that reasonable person is familiar with our nations background gun check laws. Under the gun control act, this individual was not prohibited from purchasing firearms. He wasnt a convicted felon. He was not an illegal alien. He was not dishonorably discharged from the military, nor was he found mentally defective by a court, so therefore he was able to go into a gun store and buy a gun. Jon get it. Even if the Gun Store Owner was aware that this guy heard voices and had been arrested on gun charges that had gotten him discharged from the navy reserves, that man still would have passed a background check with flying crazy. [laughter] but all of this raises a larger question why is it that guns are the one danger we seem utterly unable to this anything about in any way . This is one of the provisions of the bill of rights that the founding framers of our constitution felt so passionately about that they made sure was included in our constitution as part of the first ten amendments to the constitution. Jon god. Dammit. Well, i guess we just have to accept whatever the consequences are of an armedtotheteeth nation per our founding fathers, like terrorism, and even though the government would like to have a role in preventing terrorism, but their hands are tied by the constitution, like we found out the nsa was collecting our phone records. What do you say, jon cornyn . This is not somewhere where the president or the Intelligence Community is running like a rogue elephant, trampling our civil liberties. I think we ought to lower our language and our rhetoric a little bit and be conscious of whats at stake, and whats at stake is the safety and security of the american people. Jon so with guns the constitution is ironclad, but with terrorism its a list of suggestions. [laughter] how about while protecting peoples right to bear arm, we beef up enforcement. Your right the bear arms shall not be infringed upon. Jon what about your right to worship freely without government surveillance . Should the f. B. I. Now be allowed to go and wiretap and surveil . No. Why not . Because. I think this is a great case for opening up that line of questioning. Jon so if you believe mohamed is gods messenger on earth, thats probable cause, but if you believe a microwave is gods messenger on earth and you want to buy a gun. When it comes to gun, the constitution says we dont have to answer any questions. Why should my constitutional right be limited because you dont understand why i want a gun . Jon maybe im an octopus. [applause] maybe im an octopus and im being attacked by a squid. You dont know my life. Dont judge me. [laughter] and why should my Constitutional Rights be limited because you dont understand why i dont want the government to have my phone number . The way you protect the homeland is you try the find out what the enemy is up to. Im a verizon customer. It doesnt bother me one bit for the National Security administration to have my phone number. Jon because thats stopping terrorism. You know, he digiacomo fines mass if you define mass shooting as four or more people getting shot, weve had 250, weve only had 260 days. Our mass shooting average is 96 . Our mass shooting scores shouldnt be that much higher than our path and science score. There have been more mass shooting days and that jewish holidays and there are a [bleeped] load of jewish holidays. Im just telling you. [applause] i think. My guess is its probably a jewish holiday about how many mass shootings. I dont know. When it comes to terrorism, a terrible crime that doesnt kill a whole will the of americans every year, were willing to bargain away the entire bill of rights. Why is that . We are in a war. Fight the damn war. Were not dealing with traditional soldiers who wear the uniforms of a country. Were dealing with enemy combatants. The constitution is not a suicide pact. Jon well, im pretty sure its not a homicide pact either. Well be right back. Hey, welcome back. You know, here in new york, here in new york and the northeast, we have our own special brand of warmth. That sums up as, you looking at me . Admittedly, our southern brothers could teach us a lesson in manners, or so we thought. We have more. The south is known for its hospitality, so you can imagine when georgia asked tennessee for a little Drinking Water that the volunteer state would be more than happy to help. Georgia can keep its greedy hands off our land and its thirsty mouths away from our water. Its our land, its our water. The border was drawn almost 200 years ago. The land has been tennessees for almost 200 years. Were going to defend our border and protect our resources. Okay. Well, i guess the problem is that georgia wants to move the border from here all the way here, where it was originally meant to be before a surveying error cost them access to the river. Did a county chairman ted rumley . Its actually our land according to our survey rights. Were in dire need of water. Atlanta especially the atlanta region. Is that why Honey Boo Boo is forced to drink so many red bulls, because of the water shortage . I dont know who youre talking about. The most famous person in your state. Let me tell you something. You dont fool with people. Its really a serious issue for the state of georgia. Its not something really, you know to, joke about. Of course it isnt. And we all know what happens to funny city people in rural georgia. What the hell you think youre doing . To outsiders, they might seem like bickering siblings, but the battle for the jasperchattanooga corridor is already getting bloody. Georgia dont need to be trying to come over into tennessee and take something thats not theirs. But theyre people, just like you. I dont really give a [bleeped]. What do you think of georgias claim to this territory were on right now . No, this is tennessee. I realize were in tennessee, but georgia thinks its georgia. Were in tennessee. Youre actually from georgia. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I got to be honest, you look and sound like youre from tennessee. Oh, buddy, no, not at all. You guys are really different . 100 different. Obesity rates are pretty similar. Obesity rates, well, if you can get a doubledog cheeseburger for 1, buddy, thats the way you got to goment unfortunately this raging conflict has forced the citizens to fortify their cars as protection against the constant rocket fire across the borders. Im a quarter of a mile away from the georgia line and you cant move state borders. Is it difficult living on the front line . No. When was the last rocket attack. Theres never been one here. How did it get so [bleeped] then . This is a great area. Great area. For meth. Yes, just like the palestinianisraeli conflict, this intractable war over a tiny slice of lab has no end in sight. So you are like the palestinians in this scenario, right . Were actually the georgians thats trying to correct a wrong. Would you say youre like the israelis in this conflict . Israelis . We aint jewish. Sadly, hatred between these groups has led to ugly stereotypes. Studies have shown that the people of atlanta use 50 more water per person than chattanoogaians. So theyre excessive water users . I mean, isnt that just an old stereotype . Listen, wed be happy to send some of our scientists and others down. When you say scientist, youre basically calling the people from georgia stupid. Hey, mister, look, we just turn it on. Thats all we know about water. Thats basically what youre saying about the people in georgia. Yes, its gotten so bad, they refuse to see each other as human. You know what they do down there . What . Butt chug. Whats that . They go out and they funnel different kind of beers in their sphincters, in their rectums. So in georgia beer goes in the mouth, and in tennessee beer goes in the. Anus. Just when it seemed darkest, a solution presented itself. So there is a road map to peace . There is. And does it or does it not lead to a hooters . Well, thats your. I dont know. Is there a hooters nearby . 30 miles. But if the hooters summit were ever to become a reality, we need to start with simple gestures. The people from georgia sent a peace offering. Move that up a little more. There you go. Do what you people do. I can give you some privacy if you want to just chug that in private. Im good. Thanks. Jon thats so not right. Well be right [cheering and applause] welcome back. My guest tonight, a fine actor. His new film is called prisoners. You promised me youd keep him in custody, right, and you didnt. Right now when i grabbed him in the parking lot, he said right to my face, they didnt cry until i left them. Right now to my face. He said that what did i just say . In the parking lot, before you grabbed me off him. Did anyone else hear besides you . I dont know. It was quiet. He said it to me. He wanted me to know. Are you sure he said that . What . Are you sure thats what he said . Jesus, you think im making this up . No. Why would i make that up . Hey, hey, hey. No, think about it, why would i make this up . Jon theyre going to fight. Welcome back to the program hugh jackman. [cheering and applause] thank you. How are you . Hey, jon. Jon thank you. Thank you. That was something. Fair enough. I knew there was Something Different about you. I have a few ringings here. Jon not at all, not at all. Youre a nice, nice, nice, nice man. No, you are. Youre a beautiful man. This movie, what got into you . There were scenes in this movie. Yeah. Jon do you find, in a movie like this, are you able to express something inside you that youre never really able to express . Yes. Jon how do you find that darkness . Sometimes it frightens me in that i literally like. That felt really good. Jon yes i see people just laying on the floor with blood coming. Anyway, it is a little surprising. When i saw the film with my wife deb, she was holding my hand, and its very tense, its a gripping thriller. She was holding my hand, there were nail marks in my hand. About halfway through she took her hand away from mine. It was very much, who am i married to . Jon what . Okay. Ive beenen the couch ever since. Jon this is a thriller. Its a suspenseful movie. Its a thriller. But its one of those thrillers where they say, oh, they worked on the characters. The dialogue is very good. Its not like in your mind the. I guess the template for it is like taken. Somebody gets kidnapped and you go in with an uzi and take out half of germany. This is really intensely psychological. I think it plays to the idea of death wish or taken where in the beginning even with my character, youre going along as an audience, yeah, yeah, yeah, then it starts to make you feel uncomfortable and it makes you think, and long after the credits role it questions you about what would you do in that situation. More importantly i think, issues of violence and how we handle that as a community, as a country. Jon and i think the answer of course is very well. We handle it all unbelievably well as youve shown in tonights show. Jon very well. Didnt australia. Australia passed sweeping gun regulations 16 years ago and it had a tremendous impact on the country. It was interesting. Our conservative leader at the time. We had mass shooting and it was a big wakeup call. In australia, i hate to say, this but youre used to hearing it out of the united states. Like you hear these things, but it never happened there. Immediately there was this government buyback i believe and everyone just handed in their guns and they destroyed them. The conservative leader at the time said this has got to stop, and the whole country just went for it. It was howard, wasnt it . Howard. Hes gone now. Jon gone now. Not gone now. Hes alive. Yes, he is alive. Politically gone. Jon isnt it terrible . Like in america, hes still there, right . I have no [bleeped] idea. But youre right, thats the american way. We only follow whats happening in our country. I think other countries view this as a kind of madness. I think they view it why cant they. It is hard to understand. Look, there is a constitution, i gets it, its hard to understand, but look other countries, i think when i went to south africa, and i think how amazing it is that that country voluntarily disarmed themselves of nuclear weapons. Like you spend many, many years getting one, and youre in the club. And that just went, you know what, this is not good for the world. Were going to get rid of it. Maybe they knew themselves. Theyre like, you dont want us with one of these. I got my eye on new zealand right now. Come here, buddy. Thats why i like canada. Because they. [scattered applause] except for that guy. He likes you. Its okay. Jon but there is maturity to that country that i feel like can set a great campbell. Im not trying to. Listen, as an outsider, im going to say that i have been and many outsiders have been the recipient of unbelievable generosity in this country. There are so many good things about this country. Are you comfortable taking a compliment . Jon absolutely. Its not me. Dont forget, 300 million odd people. Australia is 17 million people. Yeah, lets do it. Its not like. Jon its a more manageable population. Im a big fan of soccer players. But even he said the thing with. You need a gad fly because its massive. Athens, america, theyre massive and big. They dont turn quickly. Nothing turns quickly. You have to understand that. In a way, that may not be bad thing. Something has a bit 06 stability. Jon let me ask you this, how long does it take to turn an ox . Because if we dont turn this ox at some point, and its not even. Just shoot at it. Jon thats how you solve it. It was right there in front of me. Son of a bitch you got to go see this movie. The performances alone, its a great story, and the way its done, it can be a tough watch at time, but the performances in it, your work. Thank you and congrats to you on finishing your movie. Its done. [cheering and applause] and look, i know when i auditioned you said i wasnt quite right, but im just saying. When peep see it animated and in 3d, theyre really going to love it. Prisoners is in the theater on friday. Hugh jackman. cucucu;u u uzuzuzuzucucucuuun that is our show. Join us tomorrow night at 11 00. Here it is, your moment of zen. Blaming this on guns is like saying that the big problem with obesity is weve got captioning sponsored by Comedy Central captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. Org cheers and applause stephen welcome to the show, everybody good to have you with us folks, thank you, thank you so much. audience chanting Stephen Stephen ladies and gentlemen thank you so much folks, folks, as you know, you watch the Program Night to night i pride myself on my decisiveness. If i ever lost my ability to instantly know my next course of action, i dont know what i would do. laughter but even i have been all over the map on this syria issue. On the one hand, holding Bashar Alassad responsible for war crimes against his own citizens was kind of, you know, been there; bombed that. laughter but on the other hand, not bombing does not involve bombing. laughter and the truth is, nobody knows what to do in syria. Weve heard from our allies, weve heard from our enemies, weve heard from our pundits and our politicians. But theres one important voice that has remained conspicuously silent hallucinating sheep herders. Until now, because the bible has finally weighed in. According to the Vancouver Sun biblical literalists see the looming destruction of damascus as the sign of the return of jesus christ to earth as precursor of the cosmic apocalypse. And folks cheers and applause