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Before now. We are also, by the way, getting new information about complaints and grievances that he filed, flanagan filed, against former employers. They include allegations of racial harassment. Weve learned flanagan purchased two glock 19 pistols legally at the same gun store and at the same time. This was 47 days ago in the roanoke, virginia, area, according to a federal Law Enforcement source. And her father vows to keep access from guns. He owes it to his daughter, a daughter he spoke to every day. She would be texting me right now saying, dad, what did you think of my story . What did you think of it . And im never going to hear that again. She was so loved by all, and my heart is broken. But i want to try to do something that will change that and make her life will do something meaningful for her life so that this doesnt happen to someone else again. Alison parkers boyfriend is an anchor at the same station where she worked on cnns new day earlier today he showed her on chris cuomo a scrapbook chronicling their relationship. Its something that was supposed to be for us but now that she was taken from this world i think its for everyone, some of the pictures that we had together, we made it for our sixmonth anniversary. She made it for me and wrote love notes to me saying that for the next six months it was my turn to fill in all the pictures in here and its a love story that i think is something i was privileged and honored to have had for only nine months. While family members grieved, the search for answers continue. Vester flanagan had a long history of filing complaints against employers he accused of discrimination. Our Senior Investigative correspondent. Drew, what are you learning . That this guy had a very tumultuous year at the station, wdbjt wdbjtv. He was reprimanded several times for his harassment of other employees, making employees feel threatened, and he was also reprimanded, wolf, for some very, very poor journalism that was outlined. The station tried to get him coaching. Tried to get him help, also tried to get him Mental Health help. In the end, they actually let him go in a tumultuous firing in february of 2013. Of course he sued the station for, among other things, racial harassment. But finding no evidence, it was dismissed out of hand. None of this points to any kind of actual harm done to this person that would lead to any rage. It seems it has been building up, the hatred and the violence inside this persons mind for two and a half years since he left that station until it finally exploded yesterday morning at 6 45. Wolf . Like a powder keg, in his own words in that document. And in one complaint, as you know, drew, flanagan writes a letter to a judge about a watermelon. Tell us about that. If you look at what he wrote to the judge, this is about a watermelon that hes describing would appear in the station. I think we can even show you that graphic. I have photos of the watermelon that appeared. The watermelon would appear, disappear, appear and disappear only to appear yet again. He goes on to tell the judge, this is a letter to the judge, that it was visible where he was and entering and exiting the building and that he has proof of it. Has pictures, et cetera. The problem is the proof never showed up. There was no evidence of this in the Court Document that would show this happened. There were other things he would write. He wrote about an intern allison, allison bailey, not Alison Parker. He said made racial comments to him and one of the comments he detailed, wolf, allison told me where was i going to swing by for lunch. He thought that was a racial comment. Hard to say on first glance why that with be a racial comment, but in a previous lawsuit against a previous employer he talked about being called a monkey by other workers at that station. That was in the year 2000 back in tallahassee. So he is very hypersensitive to race. In his diatribe he talks about hating white women and black men. It comes across as a person who is mentally disturbed although perhaps undiagnosed. Wolf . So you think this is a different Alison Parkers middle name is bailey. He may have just gotten the name wrong. Its unclear whether they even knew each other. There was some time when they overlapped at the station when he was a reporter and she was an intern. But, again, it was a brief comment that he was trying to say this proves the racial harassment that i endured at the station and it was a comment specifically where are you going to swing by for lunch . He took that to be offensive. Do we know, drew, the outcome of these complaints . They were all pretty much dismissed. The one in florida, there was a quick settlement, and dismissed. The one in wdbj, that was pretty much dismissed. The counter complaint was filed saying wheres the evidence that any of this happened . It was dismissed within just a couple of months, and that itself took place a year ago. So all of this, what were dealing with, is far in the past. It just seems like he has been stewing, if you will, for the last two years in roanoke, virginia. It certainly does. All right, drew, good work. Thanks very much. There are still many questions about this guy, Vester Flanagan. Why he shot Alison Parker and her photographer adam ward in cold blood. A 23page document has provided at least some clues. One passage reads, okay, so the big question is why . Well, after i compiled well over 100 pages chronicling the hurt in my life, i asked myself, why not . I am surprised i didnt do this before now. Another passage, my anger has been building steadily. Ive been a powder keg for a while just waiting to go boom at any moment. And this. I have been targeted my whole life, mostly by white females but also by black males. With us now is our Law Enforcement analyst, tom fuentes, the clinical psychologist who is joining us as well. In this 23page suicide note, flanagan talks about his past including claims he was a teen model, claims he was a male escort in addition to working in tv news. He discusses his personal life being a gay black man. He rants about his perceived injustices, the bullying that was going on in his life. He also praised offered praise for some other killers, mass murderers, if you will. He also referenced past family episodes of Mental Health issues, more praise for other killers. What does all this say to you in your analysis . In my analysis, obviously i never met him. It feels like it lines up to feel like a paranoid personality disorder. A lot of hyper sensitivity, suspiciousness, combativeness, this buying into this conspiracy that almost feels like its against him. A tremendous amount of contempt for others. And so whats interesting is how much insight he was becoming a powder keg. These are not good candidates for treatment. That insight often doesnt translate into change because that belief system everyone is out to get them and its a preoccupation that everyone and everything is a block to what they want to get. And it is a chronic disillusionment and thats what this feels to me. This is a guy who more days than not looked like he had it together though he probably felt like a very, very difficult coworker. Youre not exactly going to drop a dime on someone just for being difficult. And thats why this guy may not have gotten the help he really needed. And even if he got it, wolf, im not convinced it would have made that much of a difference. Those who were close to him, family members, close friends, presumably they would have noticed some extremely bizarre, strange behavior, right . The thing is i think this has been building up over time, wolf. I think this has been his style. Hes just this difficult, combative guy who is angry at the world and i think people probably just started seeing him as that guy. If you look at the complaints from the work place, he was often difficult with coworkers and when he was going from job to job to job he was probably just getting into trouble everywhere he went because of this behavior. I think people wrote him off as difficult. Typically this disorder does not culminate in this kind of violence. So thats the problem, even if we find someone with this disorder, the probability this is whats going to happen is very, very low. So this idea even if we diagnose, then what . Then we can try to treat them but were probably not going to be able to predict the dangerous element. Its so frustrating. Tom, in this note that flanagan wrote he says he was unemployed for five months, that he purchased the gun after being unemployed for three months. Were learning flanagan purchased two glock 19 pistols legally at the same store. Would any of this raise red flags to you . Well, sure. In hindsight. But at the time it wouldnt have raised too many other than the ones already there. I really appreciate what your other guest has just said that even with everybody seeing this kind of bow hehavior, theres n much that could be done. Somebody in his case, this extreme narcissism, its all about me. Its me against the world. Everybodys against me. Everybodys picking on me. And he even says it started since childhood. Every one of these small grievances is another brick in the wall that finally gets built up and up and up. Its just something thats been coming for a long time. Nobody knows exactly. This is similar to predicting when a volcano will erupt. You can see it. You can see the rumbling but you dont know if its going to happen. Theres not a lot you can do about it. Let me read another passage from the suicide note. I told random strangers or people i interacted with how i hated people. But i would often say it with a smile on my face. Later in the note he writes this, i want to say i am so, so, so, so, so sorry for anything and everything that i have ever done and everything that i have ever done or said to offend or hurt anyone. That sounds like someone who is s seething, right . The taunts, the apology, you can see even the inconsistency in the suicide note is very hard to follow. So you can imagine its very hard to target this guy and put him into an easy box and say this is a guy who is dangerous. And so i, again, its this idea is there any system that can adequately address this . One thing i would say and this is where our system fails, this is somebody who could have been monitored and managed over a lifetime. Even he acknowledges this kind of thinking and acting and behaving has been around since he was a kid but the system often doesnt pass information from one state to the next, so we dont have that continuity, that chain of information that could inform earlier intervention in a case like this. But even then we cannot predict that moment when someone is going to break. This was clearly quite methodical. Folks with this personality are so preoccupied. They put 24 7 in thinking about how theyre going to see through this grudge that they can hold for years and years. Which leads me to the next question, tom. It was so meticulously planned, he prepped his twitter page, he taped, he posted video of the killing even after he committed it, even as he was being chased and hunted down by police in virginia. I dont know what to make of it other than he wanted to get a lot of publicity presumably. He had nothing to do with isis or terrorism. They have these martyr videos to release. They want a lot of social media attention. He did as well. Certainly, wolf. The coverage of isis would be a model for him to follow. The more gruesome and the more angles and the more you post about it and the more threats you issue on social media and issue a manifesto, all of thats going to ensure maximum coverage. And he is a professional in the media. He understood the media. He understood the power of it. He understood how to use it, how to manipulate it. In this case hes using both combination of mainstream live media couples with social media on top of it. He played the game completely and it worked as far as that effect, if thats what he wanted to achieve, he succeeded. As we pointed out, he tried to copy what happened at University Tech University Ten years earlier, the same kind of gun, that block glock, hes praised them in this document he released. Its very chilling. That killer also released a suicide manifesto, if you will, at that time. All very shocking stuff, only about 40 miles from roanoke, from where this incident occurred. Thanks very much. Well stay in close touch with all of you. Coming up, were taking a closer look at how the shooting is affecting a very tightknit community. The mayor of roanoke is standing by to join us live and, later, brandnew polls with some surprising results for donald trump, for joe biden and marco rubio. Having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pickup truck slams into your brand new car. One second it wasnt there and the next second. Boom, you had your first accident. Now you have to make your first claim. So you talk to your Insurance Company and. Boom, youre blindsided for a second time. They wont give you enough money to replace your brand new car. Dont those people know youre already shaken up . Liberty mutuals new car replacement will pay for the entire value of your car, plus depreciation. 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Ale son interviewed me a few weeks ago. Adam i saw behind the camera. Allison was a very bright not only bright, intelligently bright, she just had that energy. In the mornings i would sometimes wake up not fully awake and she would be ready to go. She could always perk you up. Was a great journalist. One of the great cbs affiliates in our nation and its a big station here in person virginia. Theyre the ones that cover us, cover our snowstorms and they cover our political battles and our fairs and festivals. We get to know them and invite them into our homes as if theyre our friends. This isnt just a loss for the wbdj employee family. This is the loss the people here feel. It hits especially hard. Theyve relied on us for material. Alison parker when you had a bad snowstorm was doing live reports for cnn. A very moving report with our own Carol Costello at the time. This killer, Vester Flanagan, went by the name bryce williams. Did you ever get to meet him . I dont recall him at all. I wonder what folks have been saying about him. I dont care to know anything about him. We should learn lessons, though, from all of this, what has happened. You know what, what im trying to do is to help to heal our community. We feel this loss, these are two young folks who had the whole world ahead of them. Ive not heard lately the condition of ms. Gardner, the chamber of commerce lady. We want to concentrate on them and their lives. To heal and to move on. We just learned, by the way, theres going to be a vigil in your Community Call stop the violence vigil. Are there more plans what are you planning on doing as far as memorials, vigils, as a result of what happened yesterday . In front of wdbj tonight. Ive heard but cant confirm the help save the next Girl Foundation will have a vigil here tomorrow night. I cant confirm those. Im sure wdbjs website as well will try and collate all of this information about the memorial services, the Funeral Plans and what have you. In addition im told that the station will be announcing scholarships at jmu for Alison Parker, james madison, university, and at Virginia Tech for adam ward. One final question, were you watching her live report yesterday morning when that killer came up there and shot and killed these two young people . No. No, i was walking my dogs around the street, but i saw it later, and it is absolutely shocking and horrifying. Horrifying. And the thousands of people who were probably watching are still in a state of shock as well. Its just so awful. Words cant describe these feelings for all of us. Thanks very much, mayor. Good luck to you and all the folks in roanoke. Its a beautiful part of the commonwealth of virginia, and our hearts and prayers go out to all of you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Just ahead, a former coworker of this killer, Vester Flanagan, deals with feelings. Lh lie here. Looks like we have some sort of sea monster in the water hazard here. 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And at first it just seemed like a joke but then i would ask the photographers whats going on . They just said he happened to be difficult to work with, did not seem prepared, and so it was like, okay. And then i witnessed some stuff on my own that he would do on air and its like, wow. He would ask me a question about a story that i did that hes reading the introduction to or the tag to a story and just simply he would botch it and he would try to adlib and make the situation even worse after that. So what youre saying is he wasnt a very good journalist, he wasnt a very good reporter or anchor, but what about as a human being . Did you get a sense that he was frustrated, that he was angry, that he had issues there, that he was behaving at all bizarre . Two incidents. They happened on nights that i did not work there, which is really what soured a lot of feelings towards vester. He verbally assaulted two female coworkers and brought them to tears, and it got so bad that the husband of one of the women threatened to come in and literally do him harm if he ever if he, being vester, ever talked to his wife like that again. That was a pretty scary moment, im sure. Im sure youve been reflecting on what has gone on but, still, i assume you were shocked when you heard that this individual was responsible for murdering those two young journalists. Beyond shocked, wolf. I woke up early yesterday morning here in anchorage, were four hours behind you folks. To hear about the shootings first, wow. This was around 6 00. Then around 7 00 we hear the name and i literally just woke back up like, are you kidding . And then all of us that worked in tallahassee just exchanged phone calls and notes online, and it became for a couple of the people especially the female employees that had dealings with him, tears, a lot of anger, and, ill be honest, i felt extreme anger yesterday because of the fact that it turns out that nothing changed in 15 years with him. He acted the same way to coworkers. And what got me upset in terms of being angry is that he could have done this to us, not necessarily me, but to my friends and many of them are still close today. Dave leval in anchorage, alaska, thank you for sharing some thoughts. What a sad story this has been for all of us. Up next, well move to politics. Donald trump on center stage right now is opening his South Carolina speech. A little hair talk, describing his own hair, among other things. But well get to some substance of what hes talking about and a lot more. Brandnew poll shows hes doing very, very well. Hands. Where it belongs. Olay regenerist. 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No. Someone said it was a great compliment, a great business guy, the most unpredictable guy ever. Thats what we need, some unpredictability. We really do. And this business guy who is a tough cookie said it as a compliment. Were so predictable. Were like bad checker players and were playing against putin, who i would get along with great. I would get along with putin. When i look at jeb raising hundreds of millions of dollars, which is the only thing he has. Without that he has nothing, zero. But hell do attack adds on me. Get ready. Just like the crummy newspaper it will be false stuff. Ive done a great job. Maybe a little controversial but thats okay. Ive done a great job. Trump has been buoyed by new polls. A poll that was released earlier this week on monday. Here is where he stands in a brandnew quinn pe ipiac poll. Hes on top, dr. Ben carson second with 12 , three candidates there with 7 including jeb bush. Lets discuss whats going on. Donald trump wrapped up his speech. Hes getting ready to walk over to the microphone. Hes going to take some questions from reporters. Well hear what he has to say. Always interesting to hear this q a with donald trump and the reporters. Here he is right now. Lets listen in, donald trump will be answering some reporters questions in greenville, South Carolina, wrapping up that speech. How are you . Questions . What about gun violence . Well, i believe very strongly in the second amendment. We have people with mental disabilities, mental problems. Its too bad someone cant figure that out but we have a serious mental problem. Wed better start figuring it out fast. Yes, go ahead. [ inaudible ]. I dont know. I just did so well with the evangelicals in the polls. I love them. They love me. I am protestant, prespresbyteri. Why do they love me . Youll have to ask them but they do. I like ben carson very much. Hes a friend of mine. Im not thinking about that right now. Too many other things. How would you do that . If you look at jeb bush, he said he wouldnt fund Womens Health care issues, okay. I cherish women and i say it all the time. I cherish women. I will take care of women and i wont be going around saying im not going to fund a certain program. Women under my administration will be taken care of. [ inaudible ]. Well, all i do is some meet and greets. People ask me when i come in, when i say hello. I do meet and greets. Other than the little donations where people send in 7 and 20 and even, you know, in some cases hundreds of dollars, all i do i will do on occasion a meet and greet. Yes, sir . Theres a requirement to sign a pledge of the eventual nominee. Will you sign that pledge . We have plenty of time to think about it. I think thats september 30th. Theres a lot of time. Well be making announcements on Different Things over the next couple of weeks. A lot of growing support [ inaudible ] does that concern you . That i dont know about. Someone else mentioned that, also. I dont know about that. Question . Yes, go ahead. [ inaudible ]. About what . [ inaudible ] oh, i havent heard about it but, you know, he was on the other side so hes saying things. Hes a wonderful guy. Hes a wonderful guy, a terrific guy, and im way ahead in iowa. Im leading the polts by a lot even before sam joined, and we love to have sam. I mean, obviously the fact that he joined, i think, says so much. We love having sam. [ inaudible ]. Well, youre going to have to do something because you cant allow this to happen, and what happened in virginia is absolutely terrible. So sad to see this magnificent, these magnificent and the woman that was hurt, but these magnificent two people, so sad. Something has to happen. At the same time its not about the guns, its about mental instability. You have people with great mental instability, and its a shame because if you look at this man that did this horrible act, people knew that he was mentally unstable for years, and its a shame that he couldnt have been in a hospital or something. Yes, go ahead . [ inaudible ]. Womens Health Issues i tell you what, she can maybe speak to jeb bush on that issue because he was negative on Womens Health issues, but ive been very positive. My daughter ivanka and my wife melania know how i feel about women and Womens Health issues. They said you really should talk about it more. But for me it has to be a very major thing. I know jeb bush said some bad things and he said bad on asian. Hes talking about anchor babies and steered it over to the asians and now theyre upset with jeb bush. So youre going to have to ask him about those, but i will take care of Womens Health and Womens Health issues better than anybody and far better than Hillary Clinton who doesnt have a clue. And i dont think maybe she wont even be in the race. Well see. But maybe she wont. The Africanamerican Community . Well, ive had great friendships in the Africanamerican Community. As you know, theyre suffering. Theyve never had bad job numbers like they do right now he especially africanamerican youth. Its terrible whats happening. As you see, i have great relationships because youre seeing the poll numbers. One of the things that was so nice in South Carolina and other places where they do the polls and they break the polls down, i do great in the Africanamerican Community. And, you know, one of the reasons they know im going to create jobs. But ive had a great relationship with the Africanamerican Community. I appreciate the question. [ inaudible ] the south is full of jobs. Many jobs are taken from the United States because our trade negotiators are the worst. We dont have people who know anything about negotiation. By the way, you can go back to the iran deal, go back to trade deals. We dont have anybody in this country who knows what theyre doing in terms of negotiation. We have a president who doesnt have a clue, and that will all change. Our country will be great again, that i can tell you. [ inaudible ] well, i mean, i got a poll that was much higher. Im at 30 . Hes at 4 . I think hes lucky to be at 4 , to be honest. I would not want to be him running for office in South Carolina. I think hes been a terrible representative for South Carolina. And all he does is attack me, his whole line is to attack donald trump, and the beauty is he went down to zero. He got zero. That means out of thousands of people, he got nobody. I dont know how you get zero. So i think its really, you know, got to be a point its almost laughable but his primary mode of getting elected is to attack trump. He went from 4 to 2 to zero. Hes zero right now. He made a big mistake when he ran because the people of South Carolina are watching this farce and i think theyre very upset by it. He has not been a good representative for South Carolina. With that being said, i lead the poll in South Carolina, and i lead with almost with every group including, as we said, the africanamerican groups. They came out and i have tremendous support. I will be coming down here soon and making a speech in front of small business, africanamericans small business, and i lock forward to that. Mr. Trump . Yes, sir, go ahead. The race relation talks its a great question. Race relation problems are almost at an all time worst and two things. We need jobs and we need spirit. And, you know, president obama, i really thought that he would be a unifier. Hes not experienced. I dont know how hes going to do. He won the election. But i thought one thing hed be a unifier certainly between africanamerican and white. And i will tell you thats turned out not to be so. Hes been a divider. We need spirit in the country. We need cohesiveness and we need jobs. Well get it fixed. Well get it fixed. I mean, theyre great people. They want jobs so badly. You look at africanamerican youth. 50 , 60 , 70 unemployment. Well get it fixed. Well take them back from china. Well take them back from japan. Well take them back from mexico. Well take jobs back. Were going to have jobs in this country. Okay. Theres report out. Have you heard anything about that . And what is [ inaudible ] . I am presbyterian. The church i was originally with was the First Presbyterian church which is out of queens, new york. Ive had great experience with it, whether its sunday school or whatever it may be. Now i go to marlboro collegiate church. How often do you go . As often as i can. At some point ill meet with ministers and pastors one of the very sad things is with the iran deal, we have a pastor over there in iran right now as a prisoner because hes a pastor, because hes a christian. We have four other people. You tell me, why arent these negotiators who made this horrible deal with iran 24 days, they do their own inspections, they get 150 billion or more, why arent they releasing the prisoners . You have a journalist, you have four great people. One of them is there because hes a christian. Why didnt they say release our prisoners . And that should have happened two years ago. We are talking to ted cruz, a good guy and friend of mine. It will be announced and its essentially a protest against the totally incompetent deal that were making with iran. By the way, they are going to get hundreds of billions of dollars even if you break it up. You know what i would do, i wouldnt give them the money. I dont care what the deal. I would not give them the money. That deal will be announced over that location will be announced. You mentioned [ inaudible ]. Could you expand what you mean by that . You have a silent majority in this court that feels abused, that feels forgotten, that feels mistreated. Its a term that hasnt been brought up in years. People havent heard that term in many years. Its interesting as to why. There are all different reasons. Every time i speak, i have soldout crowds. Every time i speak, i have standing ovations. Every single time. Its the silent majority. They want to see wins. They want to see us have victory. Were not having victory anymore in this country, whether its military, whether its even the building of our military. You see whats going on . Every day i get listings of bases that are for sale. Our military is virtually for sale. Im in the real estate business. Im always getting listings and they are for an army base, a military base, for a naval base. Our vets are being treated horribly. We have vets that are the best people. Our Wounded Warriors are being treated terribly. And these are the best people we have in this country. And if i win, believe me, they are not going to be fourthclass citizens. They are going to be number one. Our vets, our Wounded Warriors. We are going to treat them the way they should have been treated. But they are being treated horrible. Okay . Are you worried about the history of that term . Im not worried about it. Im bringing it to moderate day. There is no better expression for what is happening because this is a movement. Theres no better expression for whats happening than the expression, silent majority. Because thats what is happening. People are coming out. In alabama, we had more than 30,000 people on a very warm day with rain getting ready to pour down. And in a stadium. It was unbelievable. You saw 4,000 people the other night in iowa. You saw what happened in new hampshire. You saw what happened today for a luncheon. Where it broke every record. We have a silent majority that wants this country to have victories again and were going to do it. Thank you all very much. Thank you. All right. So there he is in greenville, South Carolina. The republican president ial frontrunner answering reporters questions as he likes to do following his big speeches. Lets get some analysis of what we just heard. Joining us, our political commentators, s. E. Cupp and niamalika henderson. S. E. , what did you think . Asking for analysis of either the speech or those questions is a heavy lift, wolf. Its hard to analyze when someone answers questions with total nonsequeters. When asked about women issues, he said jeb bush would not fund womens issues, which is not true. He said ask my wife and daughter if im good on wife shooters. What about Mass Shootings . Something has to be done. Again, theres not a lot of substance when it comes to trump. So where he distracts, diverts, touch my hair, i dont know. Theres not a lot for me to sort of weigh in on because hes not very meaty with Actual Solutions to problems that a lot of voters want addressed. Having said that, you know, look at this new poll out today. Nationwide, republican voters, 28 for trump, 12 for dr. Ben carson, cruz, rubio, 10 . Everybody else, a lot, lot lower. What was your analysis . What did you think . Well, what i noted, aside from the polls, he referred to ben carson as his friend and good friend. And then he also apparently pulled back the curtain he intends to do with ted cruz. All three of those people are what we call in the trade the outsiders in this. If you add up dr. Carsons numbers in this poll with donald trumps, youre getting to about 40 . And you bring in ted cruz and whenever this rally is going to be, what this says to me is this rebellion within the Republican Party towards the establishment is really gaining steam and backed up by the numbers. Ron brownstein, you study the numbers all the time. If you bring in carly fiorina, another 5 , youre getting close to a majority of outsiders, nonprofessional politicians who are doing well. Its a very interesting point. Its a very valid point. What were seeing is a lot of rebellion in the Republican Party against the establishment is choices and the way the party has been happening. Ted cruz has to get past that. I would point out in the quinnipiac poll, only onethird says he has the temperament to handle international aspects. Hes low on everything except leadership. So while it shows the strength and real nerve that hes winning, it also shows his limits. Nia, go ahead. I think the antiestablishment point, in jeb bushs numbers, hes at 7 . The argument for him has been that hes going to be a joyful tortoise. Hes going to have to speed it up because you see donald trump going after him hes trying to be more aggressive. Trump trails bush among republicans on all of them except leadership. Theres still a lot of respect for bush. He has not touched the nerve. Theres a well that he can draw on if he finds a way to connect more viscerally. Trump likes to make fun of jeb bush. Nice guy, i like him personally but hes got low energy, not very dynamic, we dont know what he says. He sort of makes fun of him like that. I think the other thing you have to remember in this poll is that trump is also the person more republicans say they would never vote for than anyone else. And the antiestablishment coalition is important to keep in mind but in the ends we dont vote for four people. We vote for one people. So as ron points out, they are either going to cannibalize each other. Theres a long way to go before he convinces people that hes the majority nominee. Hes doing well in the polls not only nationally among the republicans but state by state, iowa, new hampshire, South Carolina. Take a look at florida and some of the other states. But not a majority, wolf. Not a majority. But hes doing a lot better than the other republican candidates. Yep. All right. Well see what happens, guys. Thanks very much. Thats it for me. Thanks very much for watching. Ill be back at 5 00 p. M. Eastern in the situation room. For our international viewers, amanpour is up next. For our viewers in north america, newsroom with Brooke Baldwin starts right now. Wolf blitzer, thank you so much. Great to be with you. Im Brooke Baldwin. I want to begin in roanoake, virginia, where people are trying to come to terms with what happened when a tv news crew was murdered live on television by a former employee of their own station. Reporter alison parker,4 years old, and 27yearold adam ward, they were live on the air when cameras captured their final moments. The gunman had hostility towards their former employer