Williams for about a year before he was fired. Thats the same station where the victims worked. The shooting happened during the morning broadcast on wdbj. Reporter Alison Parker was interviewing a woman live on the air as photographer adam wards c camera was rolling. Then you hear the sound of gunfire. Peres secretary josh earnest just spoke about to the shootings. Listen to this. I do not have the opportunity to speak to the president about the tragic shooting that occurred today in virginia. Obviously thoughts and prayers of everybody here at the white house are if w the families of those who were injured or killed in that terrible incident. The precise details continue to be under investigation but as youve heard me say in the past, this is another example of gun violence that is becoming all too common in communities large and small all across the United States. And while there is no piece of legislation that will ends all violence in this country, there are some common sense things that only congress can do that that we know would have a tangible impact in reducing gun violence in this country. And congress could take those steps any n a way that would not infringe on the truceconstituti rights of lau abiding americans. And the president has long advocated Congress Taking those steps and the president continues to believe that they should do so. The apparent gunman posted graphic video of the shooting on facebook and on twitter. Our Senior Investigative correspondent drew griffin is joining us live with more. Tell us about these posts because they are so, so chilling. So chilling because they played out as the suspect was being sought by police. It was a twitter account to Bryce Williams with his name and appearance and if you read backwards he is talking about the people he shot. He said alison made racist comments. Eeoc report filed. They hired her after. That then he goes on the say adam went to hr on me after working with me one time. And then finally this tweet. I filmed the shooting. See facebook. All of these accounts are down but when you see facebook, and we saw the account, you see the gunman view point of the shooting itself. Its quite horrific and quite it represents what he wanted to show the world,s that he murdered these people. If was as if he was wearing a gopro. It looked exactly like it. I just came back from a police raid in jamaica where we had a Police Detective wearing a gopro and what you see is the exact shot we filmed in jamaica which is hands out, the gun, and the gun shooting at somebody. Its that explicit and facebook has since taken it down. Its horrific. Its awful for anyone who caught it before it was removed and it was so, so very disturbing and i understand the theres apparently a fax that was sent to abc news by this suspect . We dont know whats in it. It is 23 pages long. It was described as a manifesto. It was sent to abc news some time overnight. Abc news immediately handed it over to authorities so its in their investigative hands right now but we know that this appears to be a very planned out event. He knew where these people were going to be this morning. He had these tweets sent out after he did this. Obviously it was very carefully planned, including the fact that he was going to post this from video he was going to take live during the event. And the days leading up to this he was posting all sorts of pictures of himself, of his childhood, going through his whole history. Youve seen those . We have seen those. He did some modeling. He goes through his whole life on twitter. Within the last two weeks or so. Keep in mind, hes been fired from the station since february of 2013 and when he left the station according to people who worked there, he was escorted out of the newsroom when and he cleared out his desk in the newsroom the station was so concerned about him, wolf, they had everybody leave the room while he came in, got his stuff and left under police escort, we are told. That was february of 2013. Thats more than two years ago. This has been presumably brewing in his mind. Thats right. Im sure this station thought theyd seen the last of them its been so long. Were just learning about his interaction, how long hes been holding this grudge. We dont know if there was any continued contact with the station after his firinfiring. Those details to come. What a horrific story. Very chilling. Thanks very much for that report. Questions remain about the apparent shooters mental state at the time of the act. Ashleigh banfield spoke with wdbj station manager Jeffrey Marks about the man, Vester Flanagan. The conversation taking place shortly before news broke that flanagan shot himself while being chased on i66 by police. Look at this. Tell us right now about Vester Flanagan who went by Bryce Williams, this disgruntled employee. Well. Weve agreed to try to cooperate with authorities and not do their job for them. But that this is an individual who came to work with us as a reporter and about two years ago, im thinking, we had to separate him from the company. And we did understand he was still living in the area. Occasionally he ran into people from our company. And the disturbing nature of tweets going out, presumably under an account under his name and even a video thats been posted from what appears to be the shooters perspective and what appears to be the shooter committing the crime. This is just so distressing. How much of this are you working with the police and trying to assess the details, the facts and the evidence. Well, whatever they need were providing. History of this individual, the video from the shooting this morning. But in terms of this other stuff, is if we get it we are turning it over immediately. But the world we live in, if we got the tweet, lots of other people got the tweet as well. To be clear to our viewers, there are two distinct videos. There was the live broadcast over the airwaves where the shots rang out and we saw the reaction from alison, then theres the video that is posted on a facebook account allegedly by this shooter, by the person going by the name of vester plan ban, a. K. A. Bruce williams. If it is that person posting it, from the shooters own perspective, seeing the gun and targeting the reporter. Youve seen this . No, i havent, i was just notified about it. Remember, of course, that people can use other peoples names in tweeting things. But considering that thats pretty unlikely in this case i think it makes sense the police are focused on one individual. And without question we need to say that we dont have any confirmation at that early stage that its this person posting under his name. We dont know that. But it is horrifyingly distressful what were witnessing on this video and the tweets that also allege issues with not only alison but also adam. Are you aware he had these issues with these two employees who were on that live shot this morning . No, we had no indication of that. We i dont think alison and that individual even overlapped here. Alison had been here more than a year, adam had been here some time longer. I cant figure out any connection with those people who were among the kindest, nicest people who worked here. Im not exaggerating when i say that. This place is in shock, as you might expect. Theres a lot of crying and hugging going on. We cant even reckon with that. People are asking, well, who was shot first and what video is there and all of that . As journalists we want to answer those questions but those a r really secondary to what has happened in our organization that will last forever. We low pressure that tv station where this terrible thing happened. Jeff, im still trying to process the tweets coming out by someone under the name of Bryce Williams 7 with a photo that looks like the former employee of yours specifically saying that adam went to hr on me after working with me one time. Alison made racist comments. Again, not sure if this is him tweeting out under his verified account. But is there talk in the newsroom among your colleagues about this kind of frustration that it seems Bryce Williams may have had . He did make some accusations against people some time ago. You can never imagine that somebody is going to come back and act on those issues that were so old. It was, i guess, a little bothersome that he was still in town and would be seen by our employees, but, again, what do you do . Do you imagine that everybody who leaves your company under difficult circumstances is going to take aim . And you think about the number of times its happened around the country. Not so much with television stations but you know the expression going postal and it can always happen. Why were they the targets and not i . Or somebody else in management . And thats such a question especially. With these tweets he names alison by name. The person behind the tweets also naming adam by name. And im just im curious if when you said he had made comments before, had those comments to your recollection or knowledge including alison or adam and ill add to that. Has he shown up at the station at all . Ashleigh, its been so long i dont really recall. It could have been and they could have overlapped, alison and this fellow but i have a strong recollection on that. The third victim in this shooting incident, vicki gardner, a local chamber of commerce director. She was shot. Shes now listed as being in stable condition. The other two victim, reporter Alison Parker, 24 years old, the cameraman adam ward 27 years old were shot and killed. Well have more coverage of the breaking news right after this. Does your makeup remover every kissproof,ff . Cryproof, stayproof look . Neutrogena® makeup remover does. It erases 99 of your most stubborn makeup with one towelette. Need any more proof than that . Neutrogena. No sixth graders ever sat with but your jansport backpack is permission to park it wherever you please. Hey. Thats that new gear feeling. This week, these folders just one cent. Office depot officemax. Gear up for school. Gear up for great. If you struggle youre certainly not alone. Fortunately, many have found a different kind of medicine that lowers blood sugar. Imagine what it would be like to love your numbers. Discover oncedaily invokana®. 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Its so bizarre, tom. Youre a former assistant director of the fbi. You were a cop before that. Have you ever heard of an incident where someone goes out and effectively executes two reporters, a photojournalist and reporter live on the air and then tweets about it, releases video on social media about it even as hes being hunted down . We havent seen that before i dont think in terms of Workplace Violence but if you have a disgruntled former emp y employee and he has issues with someone he met at work when he was still employed there, which sounds like it might be the case we have had those workplace killings. We havent had them videoed and put online, which is a new phenomenon, but we have had this. Weve had or risk workplace type shootings where people have gone into their former police of employment and slaughtered people. Cedric, its so bizarre. He was tweeting all these tweets even as he was trying to escape, presumably, from what was going on. Have you seen like that before . Never seen anything like that over the course of my career wolf but we live in a very different time now where social media plays such an important part both in good ways and in this case in a very negative and sad unfortunate way. This is very different from anything ive seen over the course of my career. Dr. Taylor, lets talk about this individual. Obviously you never met this guy, we never met this guy, we have no idea. Weve only heard stuff about what was going on. From your analysis, what kind of person we understand a disgruntled employee, as tom fuentes said, theres a history of this. What kind of person tweets about it, posts video about in the the days leading up ittoit sends a fax allegedly to abc news 23, pages, talking about it. Posts these pictures many the days leading up to what happened. What kind of person does this . Hes a former reporter who knows how to tell a story and his story that, according to him, is that he was persecuted. Hes narcissistic in the sense that hes still tweeting and trying to justify the fact that he premeditated decided to murder his former colleagues to prove the point he was treated unjustly. In his mind he believes he was tweeted unjustly. Why go after these two young people . It makes no sense. Its so brutal, its so awful, it cease horrible. They were beloved in that community. Well, reportedly he had a lawsuit and if he had an eeoc report he has basically had to catalog his injustices so it could be the interaction he had with adam and also alison were just the tip of the iceberg because that was the last thing so thats why he targeted them. What have we learned from this, tom . Law enforcement across the country, news organizations, tv news organizations, what did we learn from ma what just happened in virginia . We learned that somebody with tse vooer Mental Health issues, in this case maybe feeling he was persecuted who has access to a firearm is in a position to wreak havoc. Ten years ago we had the shootings at Virginia Tech and we had a similar situation, nyro no noek, blacksburg, virginia. Why did he kill 30 students . He felt he was being persecuted. So Mental Health problems and access to firearms are a bad mix. Cedric, youve been a Law Enforcement official for a long time. With whats going to be challenging if you look at this case, this dates back two years when from when he separated from this news station. However he separated, he carried this emotional anger with him over a period of time. If he did not come in contact with Anyone Around that station who knew what his mental condition may have or may not have been, it makes it very, very difficult. Is people have a ten den cansy to mask a great deal of pain and anger and resentment but carry out an act at a later date. Thats what makes this difficult because everyone with a Mental Health condition doesnt necessarily mean theyre going to be violent but you may have those struggling with Mental Health that we later learned was able to get access to a weapon and use in the such a horrific way such as what we saw this morning. Dr. Taylor, you heard drew griffin report that when he was escorted out of the station some two years ago after he was fired they basically had to clear out the whole newsroom there because they were worried about this guy. What does that say to you . Well, theres some suggestion he made a threat and i think it means as employers and employees when someone makes a threat we have to take them seriously and in some cases go against their will to have them psychologically evaluated. Its also important to remember that only 5 to 7 of workplace murders are done by colleagues or former colleagues. So its rare but we hope it never happens again but it is rare. Guys, stand by. Well continue the breaking News Coverage on what happened, including a closer look at the two victims, Alison Parker, adam ward, both in their 20s, both beloved employees of wdbj. Stay with us. Like i sweat money. I want to smell the way champagne tastes. I love champagne. Infuse your laundry with. Up to 12 weeks of luxurious longlasting scents. Unstopables in wash scent booster. I want my foyer to smell more like a foyer. I want his bedroom to smell like hes away at boarding school. Surround yourself with up to 6 hours of luxurious, longlasting scents. Introducing new unstopables air refresher. Having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pickup truck slams into your brand new car. One second it wasnt there and the next second. Boom, you had your first accident. Now you have to make your first claim. So you talk to your Insurance Company and. Boom, youre blindsided for a second time. They wont give you enough money to replace your brand new car. 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Adam and i work the same shift but have completely different sleep schedules. Reporter both Alison Parker and adam ward were natives of this area . Im Alison Parker, photojournalists adam ward and i are putting our final touches on our special report. Reporter allison was a graduate of Martinsville High School and James Madison university. She loved the outdoors. In salem, adam ward, news 7 sports. Reporter adam attended Salem High School where he played football. He was a Virginia Tech graduate around a huge hokeys fan. And both of them worked here as interns at wdbj 7 before they signed on as employees alison worked in North Carolina before she returned to wdbj 7 in 2014. Adam had been here for four years, first as an employee of our production department, more recently as a photographer and news. And and allison within working together a lilt over a year, covering everything from Community Events to breaking news. And they did it well. And both of them had fallen in love with coworkers. Adam was engaged to our morning producer melissa ott. They were planning their wedding. Alison and our 6 00 anchor chris hurst were dating. Kimberly and jean, were shattered by the news and our hearts go out to family and friends of Allison Parker added a dam ward. I want to thank joe deshield for that report. The station previously produced a biography of Alison Parker which a friend posted to her Facebook Page today. The most thrilling thing ive ever done, a took a trip to the grand canyon with my family and we went horse back riding down the grand canyon and it was supposed to be a guided tour and our tour guide said, oh, ill catch up with you and he never did. Once we got to the bottom the horses just took off because they had done that run so many times they knew exactly where they were going. It was a very bumpy ride, very scary and my parents were praying that i was holding on and was okay but we made it and it was really fun and ill always remember it. My hobby is white water kayaking. Its something my family does all the time. Especially when it gets warmer but weve done it when its cold outside, too. There are plenty of awesome places to, go the smith river, dan ritter, a lot of places in the Martinsville Henry county area. Its thrilling, exciting and cant wait to do it this summer. Something viewers might not know about me is that i come from a family that loves the arts, my mom works for piedmont arts, my dad was on broadway back in the day and i play trumpet and french horn in high school and support Community Theater events throughout our region. Its something very, very important and i will always support it. I absolutely love mexican food. Very, very spicy food. Enchiladas, kach ttacos, you na i will eat it, the spicier the better. My Favorite Television characters, i like the really deep darker shows, walter white on breaking bad amazing. Don draper in mad men is also wonderful and im excited for the next season of house of cards because Frank Underwood is such an interesting character to follow throughout that show. The best vacation i ever had, my family and i went to mexico about a year ago and we stayed in playa delcarmen. It was so neat to see the ruins and spending time near the beach. It was fun meeting people and eating that delicious food. Alison made a brief appearance on cnn the day before thanksgiving last year she spoke with Carol Costello about the weather in roanoke. Alison parker was only 24 years old. As you heard earlier, adam ward was Alison Parkers photojournalist, partner. Ward was a graduate of Virginia Tech, the stations morning meteorologist recalled how when his coworkers came in groggy, ward would wake everyone up with talk about Virginia Tech football or whatever else was going on. Wards fiance, the morning shows producer, was in the control room when the shootings happened earlier this morning. It was her last day, actually, on the job as she was about to take a new job . Charlotte, North Carolina. Adam told the stations general manager he was thinking about getting out of news, maybe doing Something Else to follow his fiance to charlotte. Adam ward was only 27 years old. And one of adams fellow photographers at wdbj just tweeted throughout heart wrenching picture. This is adam wards locker at the tv station. Coming up, officials in virginia are expecting to hold a News Conference on the latest developments in this horrific, horrific shooting. Whats going on in the investigation is coming up in the top of the hour. Also were getting reaction from the shooting around the country. Brian stelter will tell us what hes been hearing. A new season brings a new look. A chance to try something different. 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Brian, youve been following reaction from our journalistic colleagues around the country. What can you tell us . Absolutely, television is a business of rivalries but on a day like today its air force base its a big extended family. We are hearing messages of condolences from newsrooms across the country and organizations, groups that usually advocate for the safety of journalists in other countries, in war zones, places like syria and yemen. Farmly we hear about journalists dying trying to do their jobs in countries for from us. Today, though, to lose two journalists in virginia causes a sense of numness. Ive heard anecdotally theyre being more careful about sending reporters for live shots, not because theyre concerned about shootings but because they have the sense of nervousness having seened what happened in virginia today. It doesnt happen here in the United States very often when journalists are executed or gunned down, does it . It was eight years ago, according to the committee to protect journalists. Thats the last time a journalist on assignment was killed. In oakland, california, when that happened. Reporters without borders saying its extremely rare and what happens that makes it more stunning to hear about. What also is extremely rare, maybe the first time you see Something Like this, someone actually videotapes or film what is he allegedly is doing, wearing a gopro device to post tweets as he was being hunted down by police. Thats extraordinary in and of itself in this new age of social immediate yanchts it does feel like a turning point, the idea this person was creating media as he was going along. The idea he was posting the video before trying to take his own life. The video was shared thousands of times before twitter and facebook very quickly to their credit were able to take it down but it has a life online and i can only hope the family members of the victims have not been confronted on it. This is an example of the doubleedge sword of our society. Its a wonderful benefit to society that we have phones with camera, that we can record and share anything. In moments like this, we see that great benefit, that great, wonderful tool used against all of us because the content is being shared to shock all of us. We could keep in mind as we cover this story, we have to cover the gunman, we have to talk about him. But we also have to keep in mind he wanted this attention. He was seeking this attention and thats in my mind as we cover him here today. Do you have new information on the 23page fax he supposedly sent to abc news overnight . Thats the other element of this. In addition to him recording the shooting, he also apparently sent this fax to neighbors news, the network isnt saying when they received it. It was sometime between last night and this morning. That could mean it arrived right before or after the shooting. Abc news is saying nothing about the content bus its somewhat reminiscence of the Virginia Tech massacre ten years ago. That gunman sent a package, of sorts, to nbc news. It arrived two days after the massacre at Virginia Tech. In this case, this fax arrived around the time of the shooting. What a horrific, horrific story. Brian, thanks very much. Is well continue to monitor the breaking news out of virginia. Also, other news were following including donald trump and the latino vote. Did his confrontation with a reporter help or hurt the trump brand . Stay with us . Im phil mickelson, pro golfer. My Psoriatic Arthritis caused joint pain. Just like my moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. And i was worried about joint damage. My doctor said joint pain from ra can be a sign of existing joint damage that could only get worse. He prescribed enbrel to help relieve pain and help stop further damage. Enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. 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Hes now in Critical Condition facing lifethreatening conditions in a hospital. Well continue to watch this story for you. Lets go to politics. Were watching two political events unfolding, the democratic president ial frontrunner Hillary Clinton is at a Community College in iowa. The event is billed as a talk about Agriculture Policy in rural communities. Shes holding three other events in iowa today. Actually three total events in iowa today. Were keeping an eye on pensacola, florida, as jeb bush prepares for a town hall event in his home state. The former Florida Governor expected to highlight his experience in disaster situations like hurricanes. Well go there live for his remarks later. Were watching both Hillary Clinton and jeb bush. Much of the political talk today centered on a very public confrontation between the republican president ial frontrunner donald trump and univision reporter anchor jorge ramos at a trump News Conference in iowa last night. Heres how it started. Excuse me, sit down, you werent called. Sit down, sit down. Sit down. Go ahead. I have the right to ask a question. No, you dont. You havent been called. I have the right to ask a question. Go back to univision. You cannot deport 11 million go ahead. You cannot deport 11 Million People. You cannot go ahead. You cannot deny citizenship to children in this country. Sit down, please. You werent called . Im a reporter and i have credentials. Dont touch me, sir. I have the right to ask a question. Yes, in order. Minutes later ramos was back in the front row and was called on to ask a question by trump. Yes, good, absolutely. Good to have you back. How are you going to deport 11 million . Ready . Are you going to bring the army . Well do in the a very rue main fashion. Believe me. I have a bigger heart than you do. I want them to come back. And i went i want them to get documentation so they become legal. Its called management. Youre not used to Good Management because awe ear always talking about government just imagine wait, wait. Government is incompetent. Heres what trump said about the exchange at nbcs today show earlier this morning. He was totally out of line last night. I was being asked a question from another reporter. I would have gotten to him and he started ranting and raving like a madman and he was out of line. Most newspaper reports said i handed it very well. He was totally absolutely out of line. Ramos, for his part, spoke with cnn earlier this morning, he spoke to crishris cuomo. As reporters, i dont think its that you have to sit down because Donald Trump Tells you to sit down, you have to ask the question. Its not im advocating specific ideas. Of course im an immigrant. Of course i believe that if he wants to deport 11 Million People, can you imagine lets he would have to bring the army. Imagine the Human Rights Violations that that would provoke. Is that the kind of country that we want . I believe honestly as reporters we have to take a stand, and thats what i think i did yesterday. All right. Lets talk about all of this and more with our cnn political commentators, s. E. Cupp, peter bynard and does this hurt or help donald trump in his quest for the republican nomination . His supporters will defend donald to the end. Ive been disappointed in some reporters who seem to be scolding jorge ramos for asking questions that donald trump refuses to answer when asked politely, so i think jorge ramos certainly comes from a point of view, but hes never hidden that point of view and hes been asking donald trump questions about his incomprehensible, unworkable immigration plan, and is finally trying to get at some of the substantive answers. And if he didnt do it as politely as other people would have liked, well, the journalists that ask politely end up demuring to Donald Trumps obfuscations and distractions and get nothing out of him. Peter, whats your take on trumps decision . Its obviously a decision that he makes to go after, to battle with reporters like jorge ramos or for that matter fox news megyn kelly . Well, hes representing a group of people who feels that the media is against them, and hes not the first republican candidate after all to try to bait the media into gaining support for his president ial candidacy. The problem is that hes not only baiting the media, hes baiting the largest growing segment of the american electorate, a group of people who are going to take tremendous vengeance on him and his party next november because hes running a truly violent hatefilled campaign against him. Ann coulter warmed up for donald trump in iowa yesterday by saying that we should invite tourists to the border so we can watch the live drone shots and by offering gruesome gruesome images of supposed murderers by mexicanamericans. This is two steps far from david duke stuff, and i think its good that jorge ramos stood up to it. What do you think, jeffrey . Wow, well, not any of that i have to say. I think, first of all, in terms of jorge ramos, hes an activist. I mean, hes a left wing activist. Thats what he was doing. You can ask all the questions he wants. I didnt when i was watching this last night i couldnt even see him much less hear him very much, but i could hear the tone, and i thought whoever that is is acting like a real jerk. I didnt know who it was. Then they pull the camera back and i saw who it was. It was trump. It was trump. This is totally, totally out of the out of the realm of, you know, the way press conferences are conducted. I mean, wolf, youve been around washington, i worked in the white house, sam damagedson could bello, you know, as much as anybody at Ronald Reagan but, you know, Ronald Reagan at the end of the day got to pick who and what questions he was going to ask, et cetera, et cetera, and when he did, the other journalists would sit down until they finished and then they would jump up and do it all over again so its not that there has to be some state of decorum but clearly he was about making a statement, not about journalism. That jerk you heard, jeffrey, that jerk you heard was trump, and to your point, Ronald Reagan would answer questions. Ronald reagan was polite. Ronald reagan could answer substantive questions. Donald trump wants to deport 11 Million People and cant tell us how he would do it, so if a journalist isnt going to get the right answer, then jorge ramos has to try to get it out of him. Jeffrey, ill give you an answer, Dwight Eisenhower already did this in the 1950s. They had the same problem in the 1950s. Dwight eisenhower in june of 1954 appointed a former west point guy to head this up, and they did exactly what jorge ramos is suggesting. They used trains, they used planes, they used ships and they deported people back to mexico to the center part of mexico so that they wouldnt cross the border again. This has already been done and the Christian Science monitor decades later said it reduced illegal immigration by the end of the 1950s by about 95 . If you want to answer Donald Trumps substantive question, thats great, but donald trump is not answering it, thats the point. And the reason, you know, up. Reasons that i think jeb bush is suffering so much is that he and the other republican candidates are not willing to say that morally it is gruesome to talk about ripping up 11 million American Families and dragging people out of their homes and sending them back because they have come across the border to do the low paid and often exploited work that nativeborn americans dont want to do and until another republican has the guts, especially bush, who probably believes that. Some have. Carly fiorina talked about it. Marco rubio has distanced himself. Some republicans have. The best that jeb could say is that its too expensive, all right. Thats playing right into Donald Trumps hands because its making jeb look weak which is exactly what trump says he is. You know, let me jeffrey react to that. Go ahead, jeffrey. Yeah. This is playing the race card. This is what liberals do. Playing the race card . What . Liberals play the race card. Mexican racists. Peter, lets be clear. The Democratic Party supported slavery, segregation, lynching and the ku klux klan, they divide people by skin color, thats what they do. This is how they make their political bones. They built a whole Political Party on this. Youre doing it now. Theres no excuse for it. Its immore. No one is objecting to immigration. People are abilitying to illegal immigration. The country is 100 filled hold your fire because were out of time right now, but obviously this subject is not going away. The passion clearly evident all around. Thanks very much to all of you. Thanks to all of our viewers. Ill be back 5 00 p. M. Eastern in the situation room. Cnns breaking News Coverage of the Fatal Shooting of a reporter and photographer in virginia continues right after a quick break. Youre watching cnn. Im brooke baldwin. Two pictures on the screen and two stories were following for you. On the left side you see obviously Hillary Clinton speaking at a Community College there in iowa making her first appearance on the campaign trail since just this week cutting her vacation short. She is expected to take questions from the media. That is significant because we want