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Graham investigation will soon face a judge. Im wolf blitzer. Youre in the situation room. Breaking news, u. S. Air strikes are slowly slowing down the brutal isis onslaught in kobani but now guess what . A Major New Development on the ground. Reinforcements are finally on the way to the besieged border town. Kurdish troops from iraq are bringing heavy weapons to their fellow kurds who battled for weeks to hold on against the terrorists. There are signs that isis may have a deadly new weapon of its own. Poison gas. Our correspondents and analysts and guests are standing by. Lets begin with our chief National Correspondent jim sciutto. There have been four alleged uses of chlorine gas by isis militants in the last several weeks. Twice in iraq and twice in syria. The u. S. Has not confirmed those reports but u. S. Officials including secretary of state john kerry say this is an issue they take extremely seriously. These are victims of what may be another frightening weapon in isis arsenal. Iraqi troops rushed to the hospital after suffering what their commanders claim was a chlorine gas attack. Chlorine is not a chemical weapon but when mixed, its banned from use on the battlefield. These allegations are extremely serious and were seeking Additional Information in order to be able to determine whether or not we can confirm it. Chlorine gas has a long, brutal history in iraq. Al qaeda in iraq used chlorine dozens of times including in attacks on u. S. Forces. Sometimes packing car bombs with chlorine tanks to cause mass casualties. It gets more of a defensive and more of a psychological weapon than anything else. Its just another approach to terrorizing a population. Reporter today in kuwait, general john allen who leads the antiisis coalition called for arab nations to fight back against isis terrorizing online. The group has an arsenal striking fear with videotape beheadings of western hostages. Bragging with accounts of battlefield victories and now challenging the coalitions facts on the ground. After the coalition claimed success in pushing back isis from the town of kobani, isis responded with this slickly produced video fronted by british hostage and journalist. There are no peshmerga in sight. Just a large number of islamic states. They are taking a hostage, a man they have taken captive and forcing this individual to do this video. T the state department is striking back mocking isis. Travel is inexpensive this video says because you wont need a return ticket. There are stockpiles on the syrian side of the border and saddam era facilities on the iraqi side and isis controls territory and there have been fears they may use those weapons in battle. We know the u. N. Is being asked to look into the use of these weapons by isis in syria and iraq. We remember back in the late 80s when Saddam Hussein forces used poison gas against the kurds in Northern Iraq killing thousands of kurds so theres a history and kurds vividly remember when they were gassed by Saddam Husseins forces. More recent history in iraq, precursor to isis, al qaeda in iraq, used chlorine gas in dozens of attacks including attacks that targeted and wounded u. S. Soldiers. Jim sciutto, thank you very much. Disturbing information. Kurdish forces from iraq are about to join the fight for the Syrian Border town of kobani. Reinforcements are passing through turkey after lengthy often times very bitter negotiations. Our senior interNational Correspondent Nick Paton Walsh is risking his life now on the turkish Syrian Border. What are you hearing and what are you seeing . Reporter we think that probably down this road that convoy a substantial convoy, something that would never have been got to kobani behind me discretely will travel down this road toward the official crossing down there that heads into kobani. Dark now entirely. Kobani absolutely enveloped in darkness. Those inside the city think the convoy may arrive at 7 00 a. M. Theyll be pushed to get there before daylight. They have a long way to go. They havent crossed into turkey. Its a substantial convoy. Theres great symbolism attached to this. They are coming here with permission of turkey to assist people who turkish consider to be terrorists. Allies fighting there inside kobani. Great on symbolism but at the end of the day theres a practical use for this force. A large convoy. 150 plus peshmerga fighters. It could tip balance inside and fighting going on for a long time. It isnt just kobani. Its also iraq where isis are advancing and there was video released by u. S. Forces today of moments in which they tried to bring relief from one iraqi tribe near a besieged base and c130 aircraft used to drop 7,000 meals dispersed by Iraqi Security forces to a tribe there. A lot of humanitarian issues all around iraq and syria here too often lost in the continued coalition fight to try to degrade isis wherever they can. What are they saying where you are about that isis video including the drone video flying over kobani and that poor british hostage who was forced to say isis is in control and theres no sign of any of the kurdish fighters. What are they saying where you are about that video . Reporter he would have been doing his reporting probably under a mile away from where im standing. I call it reporting. Obviously he was under duress. Its clear because hes a hostage though he appeared relaxed and didnt repeat he felt under pressure to make those statements. People are seeing that video and noting the level of aptitude isis clearly have with social media and High Definition cameras, two cameras in one shoot. Use of a drone to show aerial shots of the town. The landmarks they picked out with graphics and its quite clear he was in kobani. Its clear isis wanted to respond in the western court of Public Opinion to what they consider to be western propaganda. They are having a tough fight and not as simple as was suggested. All right. Nick paton walsh, thanks very much for that report. Be careful where you are right on the border. Joining us now is chairman of the House Foreign Affairs committee, thank you for coming in. What do you make of these latest developments . Kurdish fighters moving through turkey into kobani supposedly very soon. How much of a difference could this make . I think psychologically its essential that we get relief in to the Kurdish Forces there in syria and the fact that its the peshmerga, its the turks allowing them to traverse their area and hopefully theyre better armed than weve had them in the past. One of the arguments weve been making in congress is peshmerga need to be much better prepared because theyre only going to be as good as heavy equipment that they bring in with them. If bringing that into play these 200 or so fighters can psychologically make the difference, its hugely important to the region because the whole sales pitch of recruitment on the part of isis is that were unstoppable. We cant be pushed out of kobani. Well take the town. And so right now this is a game of psychological warfare for the hearts and minds of those fighters, wouldbe fighters, young men who follow this and might be allured into it. They need to see isis defeated in kobani. Is it true based on information you have, mr. Chairman, that isis is using these chlorine gas attacks against the Kurdish Forces in syria and iraqi troops in iraq . Yes. Weve seen evidence of four cases of it and given brutality of isis, theres no question that as they get their hands on any of the inventory that was either in saddams or certainly we know recently that assad has used chlorine gas attacks on his own people, they wouldnt hesitate and theyre not hesitating. The organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons told nbc news they cant act or investigate because the government in baghdad hasnt formally complained about this. Whats going on . We dont know whats going on. Of course one of the big problems with the government in baghdad is it is so lopsided in terms of its allegiance or its ties with the government in iran. This is why sunnis have been ostracized and why the kurds cant get the heavy weapons that they need or troops cant get paid. One of our great hopes, of course, is that what will ultimately happen is that before this is over, they will have a National Government, a National Government in iraq which represents all three, kurd, sunni, and shia and if that happens, you would have competent governance. At this point we do not. Isis has shoulder fired missiles. They shot down two iraqi helicopters. How concerned are you, how concerned are the u. S. They could go after u. S. Helicopters, u. S. C130s and could effectively reach the Baghdad International airport and shut down flights over there. Well, theyre 15 miles away. Of course this is why we want to see the government in baghdad get its act together and be able to pull sunnis in in support of governmental policy and its also why we have to do a better job of being aggressive in reaching out to the sunni tribes. We have many personnel who, senior level military in the United States, who were involved in training. Frankly, having them in the process in baghdad of reaching out to the sunni tribes and doing the mending in governance giving responsible positions to kurds and sunnis as well will do so much to basically put the military back into a position where it can conduct operations but right now its perceived as shia led and thats the problem, wolf. Thats the perception. We have more breaking news i want to share with you, mr. Chairman. We received a statement from jeh johnson announcing dramatic new security procedures under way about to begin at u. S. Government buildings here in washington, d. C. As well as in other major cities. He says that we want to enhance presence and security, u. S. Government, at various u. S. Government buildings in washington, d. C. And other major cities and locations around the country. Were taking this action as a precautionary step to safeguard u. S. Government personnel and facilities and the visitors to those facilities. The reasons for this action are selfevident. Jeh johnson says continued public calls by terrorist organizations by attacks on the homeland and elsewhere and refers to what happened in canada over the past few days. This sounds like an ominous new development. This is a precaution. I talked the other day and i spoke with head of Diplomatic Security in the United States and there is a series of steps that were taking knowing that isis the main objection of course is that these are governments democratically elected governments so the law is not coming from god but in their mind from man and so any type of democratic system they view as the enemy and evil so an attack on the parliament, thats why the Canadian Parliament is the target. The same situation in europe or the United States and so this is why the steps are being taken now. Have you heard of any intelligence that suggests this new precautionary measures, the greater security that the department of Homeland Security is now going to install at major Federal Buildings in washington, elsewhere around the country, is it based on a specific threat . There was a specific request made about a month ago by isis for their fighters. Theyre looking at lone wolves to attack instruments that represent western governments basically. And i believe that thats what were looking to especially in light of what happened, what transpired with the attack in ottawa and so thats why these precautions are put in place. What was also alarming to me last week when i interviewed lisa monaco, the president s adviser on counterterrorism, she referred to that terror group in iraq and syria khorasan that posed an imminent threat to the United States. Thats pretty specific right there. What do you know about this khorasan imminent threat . We know senior al qaeda and we know they have expertise in bomb making and in trying to develop bombs which cannot be detected on a plane or coming into the country and in the past, weve identified those targets. The United States struck on those targets to try to take out their bomb making facility and to try to take out senior personnel. I think that this is an ongoing effort on our part to neutralize that threat. Jeh johnson, secretary of Homeland Security urges state and local Government Law enforcement to be equally vigilant particularly in guarding against potential small scale attacks by a lone offender or a small group of individuals. Were going to have much more on this breaking news coming up. In the meantime, mr. Chairman, thank you for joining us. Thank you, wolf. Ed royce. Up next, Civil Defense units go door to door on hawaiis big island warning of a 2,000degree river of lava. Stay with us. Lots of news coming up. Creeping up on you. Fight back with relief so smooth. 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What most people dont realize perhaps is the lava is actually doing most of its moving underground. In other words, its not this red hot sea thats sort of oozing across the surface. Its more something thats insidious almost running underneath the ground. Take a look at this. This is just an incredible view. It almost looks like water the way it has the surface of it here. This is or was at one point liquid stone. You can see how it is transforming the landscape. Were heading right now up to the northeast. In other words, were heading directly towards pahoa following the lava trail here. It has a look of wildfire, an area that may have been burned through. Its vastly different than that. You can see on the edges how vegetation is smoldering. What we want to do is jeremy will fly us to the end to show us how close this has come to the town here of about 950 people. The weird thing about this Natural Disaster is the fact that it is so slowly happening. Its still devastating. Impact is going to perhaps destroy the town but its a disaster that comes in inches rather than something that strikes in the blink of an eye. Were coming up over here and what were approaching is the leading edge of the lava as it starts to move into town. Let me show you something down here. Were going to come up and well show it to you on the other side of the helicopter. Its a cemetery. You can actually see how the lava has burned into the tombstones. Its an old cemetery here. The lava has actually already pushed through and its now gone beyond. This is probably the most critical day. The day the lava is likely to get into town. Wolf . Wow. Martin savidge on the scene for us in hawaii. Much more coming up in our next hour on this dramatic story. Up next, were hearing from the commander of u. S. Troops who was ordered into the ebola quarantine and more troops will soon be joining them. Whats going on . Well explain. 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My support personnel will bring food in early in the morning for breakfast. Theyll leave it there. Theyll leave. We go in and we eat that breakfast. Reporter Army Major General williams spoke to cnn where he and his team are in 21day isolation after returning from liberia. More troops will soon join them. Another 30 will come back in two days and then another 35. Reporter the army ordered all troops returning from ebola stricken areas in west africa into quarantine. Its very important that we send a clear message that we are protecting not only our soldiers and our families but the local communities. Reporter defense secretary chuck hagel facing a dilemma. The joint chiefs of staff recommend that all services put their personnel serving in the ebola area into 21 days quarantine just the way the army is doing even if they are not exposed to ebola. That contradicts the pentagon statement that most troops have no risk. Even president obama acknowledged the military is different. We dont expect to have similar rules for our military as we do for civilians. Reporter the pentagon struggling to explain whether hagels support broadening the armywide quarantine to the entire military. Im asking you does secretary hagel support the general in terms of all Army Personnel going into 21 days of monitoring . The secretary supports the decision that was made for general williams and his team. Hes not going to oppose at this time the decision made by Army Leadership for all soldiers. Reporter hagel knows quarantining troops on the ground when they return could send the wrong message. A spillover effect on other agencies and the American People are on his mind. Reporter general williams says his team went to the toughest areas including the labs testing samples for ebola. As you watch healthcare workers coming out of the red zone, you would see someone drenched in sweat after only 45 minutes. Reporter the inconvenience of a quarantine is more than tolerable. The plastic gear and food items that we ate off of are burned later. Reporter they live in a situation where everything they touch that other people may touch has to be burned. General williams says one option in front of the pentagon right now is to sign the paperwork for mandatory quarantine to begin with and then ratchet it back if no troops become sick but make no mistake. Joint chiefs want a mandatory quarantine and they have the Authority Even if hagel says no, they can impose restrictions on their own troops. They can make those restrictions as tough as they wish. Wolf . Extremely tough quarantine rules for the military in contrast to civilians who are coming back to the United States. Well have much more on this. This afternoon president obama warned against putting barriers on u. S. Civilians doctors and nurses treating ebola patients overseas. His remarks appear aimed at states like new york and new jersey where a nurse returning from africa was quarantined even after having no signs of illness. This picture of the nurse was posted after she was allowed to go home to maine. A tweet says her boyfriend says finally a bit of well deserved rest after a long ordeal. We have to make sure those workers who are willing and able and dedicated to go over in at that tough job are applauded, thanked and supported. Miguel marquez is outside of the hospital where the countrys only ebola patient currently is being treated. Whats the latest . Reporter thats dr. Craig spencer in serious but stable condition here at bellevue hospital. His case sparked a National Firestorm putting healthcare workers caring for ebola patients on the front lines. Amber vinson heading home today after being declared free of the deadly virus by doctors at emory hospital. As a nurse and now as someone who experienced what its like to be cared for through a life threatening illness, im so appreciative and grateful for your exceptional skill, warmth and care. Reporter vinson is one of two nurses at Texas Health Presbyterian hospital in dallas who contracted the disease after treating thomas eric duncan. The liberian man that died from ebola earlier this month. Vinsons colleague, nina pham, was released from the hospital earlier this week. Dr. Craig spencer remains hospitalized with the disease in the United States. Six cases have been treated at hospitals across the country in the last five weeks. Spencer, a 33yearold doctor who recently returned from treating ebola patients in guinea, remains in serious but stable condition in new yorks bellevue hospital. President obama applauded vinson, pham and spencer today for their work and emphasized the importance of sending medical professionals to help combat the disease in west africa. We dont want to discourage healthcare workers from going to the front lines and dealing with this in an effective way. Casey hickox, the nurse confined to an isolation tent after allegedly registering a fever at Newark Airport is back home in maine today where she agreed to selfquarantine but the debate surrounding new jersey governor Chris Christies decision to quarantine hickox continues and christie is not backing down. Were trying to be careful here. This is common sense. The members of the American Public believe it is common sense and were not moving an inch. Our policy hasnt changed. Our policy will not change. Reporter now, the 5yearold boy who was back from guinea who they thought might have ebola was cleared of it. He had a respiratory infection and will be taken out of isolation and put in the hospital so he can get over that respiratory infection. Thanks very much. Joining us now here in the situation room, dr. Skinner. Hes an expert on Public Health preparedness and has been to the ebola hot zone earlier this year. What do you make of this one strict standard for u. S. Military personnel leaving that ebola hot zone in west africa opposed to civilians who will have much freer reign if you will. As someone who has worked for years with highly Infectious Diseases like ebola, everyone on my team, we follow the cdc guidelines, they state we undergo controlled movement. That means no commercial transport. No public transport. And we report to the Public Health authority. No symptoms, no ebola. We communicate about this all the time. We have to be careful about the needs for communicating on what ebola is and the threats the military personnel in italy who just got out of liberia, they have no symptoms. How they are defining quarantine . Im not sure. It hasnt been explained to me. They are throwing away utensi utensils, plastic knives and forks they are so worried about it. A lack of communication and an area we need to strengthen right now. They are no risk if theres no symptoms and thats clear and thats what we tell everyone. More and more people are going back to west africa to help and thats the message to the American Public. The u. S. Military wants to be on the side of total caution. There is a very different standard. Standby. Were going to continue our reporting on this here in the situation room. Turning to politics though right now, were exactly one week from the midterm elections. Right now president obama is making a quick trip to campaign with one of the few high profile democrats willing to be seen with him in this final week. Hes in wisconsin where democrat mary burke is challenging republican Governor Scott walker. The race has nationwide implications because if walker wins, he could be a possible contender for the 2016 republican president ial nomination. Much more on the midterm collecti elections in the next hour. 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I would assume that leads to selfindulge selfindul self sel selfindulgeians. Reporter the Charm Offensive to soften north koreas image ahead of a scathing human rights report set to be released by the United Nations tonight. The report is expected to call for north korea to be referred to the International Criminal court over its human rights record. A move that will be seen as a major blow to the regime. Weve raised concerns and supported the efforts of the commission of inquiry. Reporter the regime is so worried, it held a rare meeting with u. N. Officials opening a door to an historic visit by u. N. Investigators giving insight on how the regime treats its people. Now, that north korean official was the deputy ambassador to the United Nations who spoke recently to the council on Foreign Relations and a meeting unthinkable just recently. Ive been talking to u. S. Officials about whether the Obama Administration believes the North Koreans are ready to talk on the Nuclear Issue and could they seize upon this opportunity and they tell me, no, thats the one thing that the North Koreans dont want to talk about. They say this is all about avoiding action at the United Nations this week. Thank you very, very much. Up next, as the suspect in the kidnapping of the university of virginia student Hannah Graham awaits his next appearance before a judge, investigators in several states are looking closer at unsolved cold cases. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ mom ] with life insurance, were not just insuring our lives. Were helping protect his. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. Transamerica. Transform tomorrow. I have 40,ney do you have in your pocket right now . 21. Could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement . 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Tonight were getting new details on how prosecutors may be assembling their case against Jesse Matthew as they work toward a court date on friday. Tonight as Jesse Matthew prepares to face a judge in fairfax, virginia, prosecutors race to build evidence against him. Matthew faces charges of abduction, Sexual Assault and abducted capital murder. Experts say the case here is likely the strongest one against matthew. Largely because of evidence from the 2005 assault. And potential witness testimony. Including that of a victim who is still alive. I would rather not say where she is but she is cooperative. Experts stay victim likely agreed to a rape kit test where she might have submitted dna samples like hair and blood. She was probably swabbed and photographed. Forensic examiners would look at every thread of clothing she might have submitted. You look at the evidence and try to determine where there might be stains, collect hair and finers off it. There might be other debris that maybe significant. Jesse math youve had to give his own dna in the Hannah Graham case. That was the link to close that case. Other parts, accounts from neighbors who heard the victims screams. One described them as blood curdling. Other potential evidence lies in both the victim and attacker as the victim was being dragged down this street, her purse was left near a corner. The fbi said the attacker carried her to this grassy area and sexually assaulted her here. The fbi says the victim got a good look at him and helped forensic artists create this sketch. Composite sketches are a roll of the dice in cases like this. Prosecutors will likely try gather harder evidence to place he matthew in fairfax that night even though he is from a town two hours away. Are there any gas receipts for which he would have gone there . Is there any toll booth that he might have went through . Is there any surveillance individual grow is still viable now that could be had there . Was there a cell phone that he had . Was there any text messaging . Weve made repeated attempts to get comment from Jesse Matthews lawyer on the fairfax case. He has not commented. While the victim may be ready to testify against matthew in this fairfax case, and earth that say that doesnt make it air tight against Jesse Matthew here. They stay trauma of that evening may affect her reliability. Thank you very much. Lets go indepth with our Law Enforcement analyst, the former fbi assistant director. This appearance before a judge in fairfax via video cork that provide us more information about what is going on in the Hannah Graham case as well . No. I dont think so. I think it will be very specific to the fairfax rape case and it will be irrelevant in terms of the Hannah Graham case. The fact that took place almost a decade ago, that sounds like a pretty difficult case to prove devin the time that has elapsed. The time wont matter other than they will try to make a big deal out of her memory but the forensic evidence wont change. It has his dna from that date and that will last, in terms of evidence, that will last forever. The fact that they found the remains of Hannah Graham, will they upgrade . You expect the prosecutors to upgrade the charges against Jesse Matthew. He is being held in connection with the Hannah Graham case on abduction charges. You suspect the charges will be more severe . I think possibly. It will depend on being able to link him on actually murdering her. We know he was with her. Did he mur her . Thats a different level. Did he take a souvenir from her and bring her to the apartment and they found it there . That would help. The actual evidence of the murder itself, a weapon or whether he strangled her or however the method was, that will be very difficult because of the degree of decomposition of her body. And theyre looking for all these unsolved cases, these cold cases as well. What do you think about that . I think they may be able to link him to one or more cases including the Morgan Harrington case, virginia tech, 2009, a young lady. This case in fairfax pretty much ready to go. Thanks very much for that. Tom fuentes, the former fbi assistant director. Coming up, why security is being stepped up at several u. S. Government buildings in the washington, d. C. Area and other major cities around the United States as well. And emergency workers go door to door on hawaiis big island. Theyre warning residents of the 2,000 degree river of lava approaching their homes. Creeping up on you. Fight back with relief so smooth. Its fast. Tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. 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Know better sleep with sleep number. Security fears, the government announcing steps, stepped up protection at buildings across the United States on canadas parliament. As the u. S. Faces what is being call an imminent Terror Threat. Fiery disaster, a river of lava is closing in on hundreds of homes in hawaii with official going door to door. Theyre warning residents of looming danger. Bracing for the worst. When the grand jury announces whether it will indict the Police Officer who shot and killed michael brown. We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world. Im wolf blitzer. Youre in the situation room. Lets get right to the breaking news. From deadly today, canadas capital. Homeland security secretary jay johnson has Just Announced he is ordering security tightened in thousands of u. S. Government buildings here in washington and other major cities around the United States. He calls it a precautionary step, citing the attack in canada and the continued Terror Threat facing the United States. Especially from isis and the al qaeda offshoot, khorasan. Our guests senator Saxby Chambliss who is here with me. Lets begin with our justice correspondent pamela brown. What are you hearing . We are learning from the department of Homeland Security secretary jay johnson that the department is boosting security at more than 9,500 government buildings, potentially, as we see here. This is in response to what happened in canada just last week where we saw a gunman shoot and kill a soldier and then after that, run into parliament and open fire. We had that happen. Just today there was an incident in the courthouse where two blend shot. Police say they may have been targeted. And also there has been chatter for members of isis in recent weeks, calling for attacks toward government officials, Law Enforcement personnel, military person and he will members of the media as well. With all of this combined, jay johnson said it is selfevident for this change. He is saying it is important to increase the presence at government facilities across the u. S. , not just d. C. But pretty much everywhere. He cant get into the specifics about what building this is will happen at, what security measures this will be. But we will see sort of a show of force. More personnel outof buildings. As you pointed out, speaking to Homeland Security officials, this is not necessarily in response to any new intelligence indicating that there was active plotting against government officials. This is more in response to what weve seen happen. Were talking about nearly 10,000 buildings in washington and around the country. Federal buildings. More than 9,500 buildings at the federal protective services watches over and theres 1. 4 million visitors daily across the country. And also, it is important to point out, we spoke about this months ago. There was a recent report done by the Government Accountability office saying the security from the federal protective services is inadequate. There are security lapses. Well talk a lot more about this with senator Saxby Chambliss. Well talk to you in a moment. This growing concern. There is also growing concern about isis and theres now evidence, it is now using chlorine gas in attacks in iraq and syria. Our chief National Security correspondent jim sciutto is working this part of story. Tell us about these chlorine attacks. There have been four alleged uses of colorine gas by isis militants in the last several weeks. Twice in iraq and twice in syria. The u. S. Has not confirmed the reports but u. S. Officials including secretary of state john kerry say this is an issue they take extremely seriously. Well show you pictures of some of the alleged victim of what might be another frighteninging weapon. These are iraqi troops, rushed to a hospital after suffering what commanders claim was a chlorine gas attack. Chlorine itself is not a chemical weapon. When it is weaponized, it is banned from use on the battle feel because of its horrible effects and the it has a long brutal history in iraq. Isiss precursor, al qaeda in iraq, used chlorine dozens of times including attacks on u. S. Forces, sometime packing car bomb with chlorine. It has a limited effect on the battle field and can be a very potent psychological weapon for terrorizing a population and tonight we are learning the u. S. Has been asked to investigate isiss possible use of chlorine gas in both iraq and syria. Very, very worrisome situation. Thank you very much. And theres other deeply disturbing information coming in. Alleged isis fighters now prisoners, talking to cnn interNational Correspondent ivan watson, telling him that should he fall into isiss hands, he would be tortured. Possibly beheaded. Thats what they will ivan. He is joining us live now from Northern Iraq. Youre one of our very courageous journalists out there. What else did these militants tell you . It was a pretty uncomfortable and downright creepy encounter going across the borld entire Northern Syria and then being invited to one of the kurds prisons there where we met with men. They told us were isis militants. Were in a prison run by the kurdish militants in Northern Syria and aware being introduced to prisoners that the kurds tell us were members of isis. The prisoners are brought in blindfolded and we quickly goib wonder whether theyre being forced to speak to us. During our visit, the guards who asked not to be shown, do not allow us to see the cell where the prisoners are being held. This man trembles with fear as they remove his blindfold. I introduce myself as an american journalist and he begins to relax a little. He tell me, he is a syrian named suleman. He confesses to being part of an sites cell that planted and detonated a Remote Control car bomb outside a kurdish base and said he received around 3,600 u. S. Dollars for completing the job. What is the idea that isis is fighting for . Translator they said they were fighting for islam and justice. They lied to us them took advantage of our minds and our poverty. One of the prisoners guards bring out is barely a man. How old are you . Translator i am 19 years old. But he tell me he fought alongside isis all across syria for more than a year. Where were you injured . And he has the battle scars to prove it. They gave us drugs, hallucinogenic pills. Before he is captured by the kurds, he claim he saw isis behead many of its prisoners. Why does isis cut peoples heads off . Translator whenever isis goes into an area, the eyes of isis, the people there who dont adhere to the islamic law are apostates. Everything has to follow isis way. Even women who dont cover their faces. Women would also get their heads chopped off. The final prisoner . Jobber, a former School Teacher and father of two who also confesses to a car bombing. What would have happened to me if when you were with isis, if you guys had found me, an american journalist . Translator with isis, your fate would be death. There are different kinds of death. They would torture you for sure them might decapitate you or cut off your hands. They will not simply shoot a bullet in your head. Each impossible for cnn to confirm whether anything the prisoners tell us was true, or whether these men were coached by their captors. The kurdish Prison Guards say if set free, he have one of these men would likely go back and rejoin isis. Now wolf, all three of these men, i asked them the same question. What would happen if isis got ahold of me. All three said yeah, you would be killed and the 19yearold boy even made the gesture that i would be beheaded. The entire interviews, the conversations were conducted in the presence of kurdish Prison Guards. The kurdish fighter in Northern Syria have love hundreds of their members in their war against isis and they clearly wanted to show isis here looking vulnerable, looking weak, and frankly, to demystify this jihadi movement. They didnt say you would just be killed. You would be beheaded but before that you would be tortured for an extended period of time. Isnt that what they told you . Reporter yeah, one man said there were many ways that i could be killed. My hands could be chopped off. I would eventually be beheaded. All of them talk about the use of violence by isis to basically crush its enemies. All of them also said that at left a two of the men, they had faced threats to their families or. They and they said that was why they cooperated with the movement. That 19yearold boy, he said he had been paid 2,000 in cash, which is a vast amount in syria, to enlist. He also said that other fighters were promised wives. And again, we cant confirm any of this. But it does fit with some of the information im getting here in Iraqi Kurdistan where the government estimates at least 2500 kurdish women have been kidnapped since last august, and that they are being sold, distributed to isis militants across the border in syria as rewards and as an enticement to redemocrat more members to this, to recruit more members. Joining us from iraq after he was in syria. Thank you very much. Be careful over there. Lets get more on all of this. Joining us from georgia, the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence committee. When you hear a report like that, is that consistent with what you hear from u. S. Intelligence analysts . Absolutely, unfortunately, these are not people that americans can identify with. One of your bravest correspondents, hes been threatened, essentially, and the one thing about isil we know is they carry out their threats. They will maim and behead people. Thats why controlling them is not an option. Killing them is the only option weve got. The fact that he says they now abducted 2,500 women, basically distributing them as prizes if you will to other isis fighters. Is that consistent with what youve heard as well . I havent heard about that specific case but im not surprised at that. These people are, theyre very sophisticated and the way they use the internet. They promise people, they recruit people with these promises. Theyre still getting illegal profits from all that theyve confiscated. Theyll reward them with women, with money, and the promise of whatever lies in the here after that weve heard about jihadists before. Lets get to the breaking news. The statement just released by jay johnson staying United States will enhance its presence in security at various u. S. Government buildings in washington, d. C. And other major cities and locations around the country. Nearly 10,000 Federal Building theres now have stepped up security. Here the question. Is this based simply out of precaution or is there a specific threat out there . Its simply being safe rather than sorry. Number one, soft targets. Soft targets means something not very well protected that is open to the public. Federal buildings are often time not very well protected. Second thing weve worried about are these home grown terrorists. Weve just seen, for example, three wisconsin women who were traveling to syria. From colorado. Excuse me. From colorado. To become part of isil. They were 15 and 16yearold girls. Theyre obviously very easily influenced. When people ask me with all briefings youve had over the last 14 years, what scares you the most, my answer is pretty simple. Home grown terrorists and the possibility there of. Secretary johnson is just being safe, rather than having to look back a week from now and saying we fail to protect this very soft target in some rural and remote area. The president s adviser on counter terrorism. She will me last week that there was a, quote, imminent threat from khorasan, one of these Al Qaeda Affiliated groups. She didnt go into specific details but when you hear imminent threat, that sounds ominous. What lisa is referring to, and she is absolutely right, this group khorasan has only one mission. They are an offshoot of al qaeda. Their mission is not to attack in syria or iraq. Their mission is to find a way to attack the United States on domestic soil. So she is absolutely right. That is an imminent threat. 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For people, for companies, and the world. To help you realize a better tomorrow. The department of Homeland Security ordering the security tightened at nearly 10,000 buildings in the d. C. Area and all around the United States in the wake of the attack on the Canadian Parliament last week. Were back with republican senator sam bichambliss. Also something youre monitoring, these reports that isis is using poisoned chlorine gas to go after these cush attacks, iraqi targets in iraq. Weve known that aqi in iraq is using poison gas. Time and time again, theyve done it. You have to remember that isil is an offshoot of that group. So to find out theyre using night crude way, it wouldnt be at all surprising. They have no adherence to the Geneva Convention or 90 convention. Theyre a bunch of mean, nasty folks. To threaten and carry out threats. Is that just a scare tactic . Or is that something athletics really militarily is going to work . I think theyre doing everything they can to push back in regions theyre not able to hole their ground. I suspect thats what weve seen hear in the town of kobani, for example, they were pushed back by the kurds. They did a really good job standing their ground. Any time you see that happening, theyll take any action they can to tray to kill them in any way that they can. Senator chambliss, thank you for coming in. Appreciate it very much. Lets bring in some other experts right now. Joining us, our counterterrorism official phillip mudd and analyst, the former cia operative bob baer. His good book is called the perfect kill. 21 laws for assassins. What is your reaction from this threat from khorasan . You work for the cia. There may be an imminent threat. And today announcing stepped up security at nearly 10,000 Federal Buildings across the country. We have to draw a real distinction taken with what were seeing in terms of operations in iraq and what we might see against khorasan in syria. A pretty clear distinction. You can satisfy the enany iraq. You can see them operating on the ground. Theyre fighting iraqi forces, the problem with degrading the Terror Threat is you cant see it. Lets remember, were still chasing that bomb maker in yemen. Been chasing him for years. Hes part of this threat. Were still chasing the head of al qaeda, al zawahiri. So chasing an invisible enemy that has dozens of members krauls self countries will take years. They can say that this is being done out of an abundance of caution. But it is not an easy decision for the secretary of Homeland Security to issue a statement and then to implement increased security at nearly 10,000 buildings in d. C. And around the country. There has to be a specific threat. Hold on one second. I want to explain what were showing our viewers right now. Let me hold on one second. Maintain position at your console. I want to explain to our viewers whats going on. This is a rocket that was just launch in the virginia and it exploded. Were not exactly sure what was going on here. Theyre trying get some information. First of all, we want to find out where in virginia this is taking place. What was going on. Take a look at these pictures. This is pretty dramatic. This is a nasa rocket in virginia that exploded on launch, were now told. And it looks pretty ominous right there. Hopefully there are no casualties. It exploded in a remote area. Were just getting these pictures in rate now. You can see whats going on. It was just going to be going into an on or about, were will, this rocket. And eventually heading toward the International Space station. But lets listen in to nasa and see what they said. We will continue to bring you information as it comes available. So there is the remnants of what was a nasa rocket exploding on launch. This occurred just moments ago. Let watch this. This is just moments ago. This is a scheduled this was originally scheduled yes but apparently they delayed it for a day. And this is what happened today. All right. Im going to play the launching of this rocket. We have the video rate now. Watch this. And launch. And launch. Were will this rocket was designed to selfdestruct in case there was a problem. And you can see, this rocket is destroyed right now. It exploded on launch. You see how drama it is. We can only hope no one was injured as a result of what happened in virginia. The informing is still pretty sketchy. Hears what we know. The rocket was did a to be launched yesterday. It was scrubbed due to a boat in the vicinity of the launch site. Five minutes or so ago. But the launch was aborted yesterday, took place today. And you can satisfy the powerful, the powerful explosion that occurred. This is the wallops flight facility in eastern virginia. Weather permitting, the orbital, it was supposed to go to the International Space station with a lot of supplies for the International Space station. You can see whats going on there. It is unmanned. I want to make sure our viewers know. This is an unmanned rocket that was going to the International Space station with supplies for the International Space station. You can see what happened upon launch. It looks like it is selfdestructed and simply exploded. Let listen to the audience from nasa. To work with our representatives, our Mission Insurance representative to secure the facility and to collect all data. I would ask all personnel to segregate any mission notes, any photographs, 90 any other data theyve taken and prepare that data to be catalogued and failed away in the Contingency Reaction process. That will include all your check lists, all handheld notes, any notes that you have on your computer, any files that have been transmitted in the course of this launch operations, your computer will also need to be scrubbed of any file used for todays activities. We will need to lock down any data that is pertinent to the launch operations today as we pull together contingency check list and the failure investigation board. On the left part of the screen, a live picture is what it looks like now. On the right part of the screen, you see the explosion. The rocket just exploding on takeoff, five or six or seven minutes ago. It simply took off. This is the resupply mission to the International Space station. Were listening to the audio from nasa tv as it exploded over there. Theyre trying to figure out precisely what happened. It was supposed to be taking about 5,000 pounds of nasa cargo aboard this rocket to the International Space station. Taking off from the wallops flight facility in eastern virginia. Within seconds of takeoff, you saw what happened. You saw the explosion and im sure theyre trying to figure out whats going to right now. If this launch had worked out the way it was supposed to work out, a lot of people on the east coast of the United States, millions potentially, could have seen this rocket taking off. It just tack off on the right part. And now you look at the explosion. Once again, once again, an unmanned rocket that was carrying about 5,000 pounds of quirnlgt splas for the International Space station showed thatted moments ago. There you see on the right part of the screen. You see it taking off. There is the rocket. Watch this. There you see the explosion of this rocket. An unmanned rocket, fortunately. Lets hope nobody on the ground was hurt by this explosion but it is a dramatic picture that aware showing. It was supposed to go to the International Space station. It was supposed to take off yesterday but that launch was scrubbed because a boat was inside the rain safety zone southwest of the launch pad. They postponed it until sack 22 p. M. Eastern. It is now 6 32. So it simply exploded. On the left side of the screen you see the live pictures from whats going on. Were getting all this from nasa tv. A powerful image. Well get more information from nasa. Obviously well try figure out, hopefully no one was injured. It is a significant setback to what nasa hoped this cargo aboard this rocket, this spacecraft, was supposed to go unmanned to the International Space station and help everyone out there. It is a really serious setback. Jay boldin, by the way, the National Spokes pen is telling cnn, there was fail you are a on launch. There is no indicated loss of life. There was significant property and vehicle damage. Mission control is trying to assess what went wrong. Let me repetition this. Nasa snows loss of life on this rocket explosion. Jay golden telling cnn, there was failure on launch, no indicated loss of life. There was significant property and vehicle damage. Mission control is trying to set what went wrong. You see the explosion on the rate part of the screen. The left part of the screen, you see live pictures, alive images of whats going on. This is eastern virginia. Wallops island in eastern virginia where this rocket took off about 11 minutes or so ago. Lets take a quick break. Resume our coverage after this. train horn vo wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. Norfolk southern. One line, infinite possibilities. Having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pickup truck slams into your brand new car. One second it wasnt there and the next second. Boom youve had your first accident. Now you have to make your first claim. So you talk to your Insurance Company and. Boom youre blindsided for a second time. They wont give you enough money to replace your brand new car. 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The aftermath that was a private company, Orbital Sciences corporation had this contract with nasa to launch this rocket and to take about 5,000 pounds of supplies and equipment. It is hard to tell right now. I think they. They at nasa are trying to figure out what happened. Every rocket has the ability to be destroyed by what they call the range safety officials. If there is something that is going drastically wrong, they sort of push the red button to destroy it so that it doesnt cause any potential problems down range. We should point out this is the launch that was supposed to happen this morning, didnt happen this morning because a boat strayed into the zone where it was going to, the launch was going to occur. And this is a reminder that that is why you dont launch when there are people that come into those no play the or no vessel zone during a launch. Any time youre dealing with a rocket, youre dealing with tremendous force and explosive capability. All kinds of things have to go right instantaneously. Lots of moving parts and it doesnt take much of a failure to cause a problem. What that explosion, the rocket itself exploding, or the onboard destruction cape bills that every rocket is equipped work we dont know yet. This official statement says there was failure on launch. There was no indicated loss of life. Property and vehicle damage. I assume the spokesperson, significant property and vehicle damage on the ground. Yes, yes. Were talking about the wallops science facility. Relatively remote and protected area. The area around it, for overflights and ships at sea, a moment ago. So i dont think we need to worry too much about loss of human life. It is a setback for Orbital Sciences corporation which is one of the bidders that succeeded along with the californiabased Spacex Corporation deliver supplies to the International Space station under contract to nasa. Subsequent to the retirement of the Space Shuttle. This would have been their third delivery to the space station. They were carrying about 5,000 pounds of supplies and scientific experiments to it. It is a reminder that building and launching rockets is a very chancy proposition. We tend to take it for granted but we are reminded he now and again that it can go wrong. When it goes wrong, it go wrong in a very spectacular way. Do these rockets normally have these selfdestruct or these abort capabilities . If something is indicated within 5 or siksds that somebody pushes a button and it explodes sprks whats possible . Yes. Every rocket has it. Including not many people knew it but the Space Shuttle had that cape bill and a lot of astronauts would talk about getting to know the person who would have the unwelcome task of pushing the button if it would ever occur in the Space Shuttle program. Of course it never did, and remaingd them there are real human beings on board. That is part of the layers of safety. The Safety Culture involved in launching rockets. You do have that cape bill of destroying the rocket before it can fly further. And lets say you have a failure which causes an asymmetrical thrust. It could turn the rocket around. Thats why you need the ability to throw the thing up. They would normally make sure if they had to do it, there would be no people in the vicinity of this explosion if they needed to report this mission and explode that rocket and the vehicle on board. Yes, yes. The general rule of thumb, were talking big distances away. I dont know the exact distance that the closest human beings would be to that launch. I know in my days of could go the Space Shuttle program, there were no human beings except the emergency crew. There was nobody within three mile of the Space Shuttle launches, except for the crew inside the shuttle itself. That was to guard against this very thing. If something were to explode on the launch pad, you have obviously a tremendous am of fuel and potential energy, become explosive energy. You have a big debris feel. The idea is to make sure that is well protected and there are no human beings anywherer in a there. I want to you stand by. Tom foreman is collecting information. Well stay on top of this story. This rocket has just explode in the virginia upon takeoff within five or seconds. Big day . Ah, the usual. Moved some new cars. Hauled a bunch of steel. Kept the supermarket shelves stocked. Made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. Whats up for the next shift . Ah, nothing much. Just keeping the lights on. laugh nice. Doing the big things that move an economy. See you tomorrow, mac. See you tomorrow, sam. Just another day at norfolk southern. An Unprecedented Program arting busithat partners businesses with universities across the state. For better access to talent, cutting edge research, and state of the art facilities. 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The nasa spokesman telling cnn, and im quoting, there was failure on launch. There was no indicated loss of life. There was significant property and vehicle damage. Mission control is trying we are getting a treat from Orbital Sciences, the private firm that launched this rocket on contract to nasa. Orbital science is saying there has been a vehicle anomaly. We will update as soon as we are able. We have an eyewitness from the area who saw what was going on. Chris tilton is joining us on the phone. Where were you and tell our viewers what you saw and heard . I was across the bay from the launch the launch site. There was a body of water there about a mile, mile and a half wide, and i was immediately across from the launch site. The launch initially seemed to go okay, but within a few seconds, i noticed that the top of the the top cone of the rocket started leaning to the left. In other words leaning to the north a little bit. And it stopped the straightup trajectory and it started to lean and slip a little bit and it appeared to me they did a safety Self Destruct on the rocket. Out of fear that maybe the rocket would be heading toward a populated area, is that what you are saying . It could be. But it is more likely that the first stage somehow failed and didnt get enough thrust to get it in to orbit. And it seemed like it was in distress about two to three seconds after liftoff. Hold on because the astronaut mark kelly is joining us on the phone right now. And mark, tell us i assume youve seen the pictures and the images of what happened. What is your analysis . Ive seen it briefly. But, you know, wolf, with any space flight anomaly, especially after liftoff, the investigation process will take a while. And what you see and what somebody on the ground might witness often doesnt tell the entire story. This is a this is really difficult to do. Orbital sciences does a great job at it but it is a risky business. Mark, were told there was 5,000 pounds of supplies and equipment for the International Space station and all sorts of other sensitive equipment, as you can imagine. But we dont know if this was an aboarded mission or an aborted mission or simply exploded. I assume you agree it is too early to tell. It is all too early to tell, but often what happens when they realize, this is going to be catastrophic, there is a Safety System in place where they can command the rocket to destruct in a more controlled way rather than let it fly off in a direction they dont want it to go. You mentioned the 5,000 pounds on board, i just sent an email to my brother who is going to launch in march, asking him if his important clothing and what he needs for the oneyear was on board because it is very likely that is the case. Mark, i want you to stick around. I want to continue the breaking news but lets take another quick break. 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We are just getting a statement in from nasa, mark, saying that this was a catastrophic anommy, and what does that mean from nasas perspective . Well it means you lost the vehicle, you lost the rocket ship and you lost the spacecraft and the pay load. In this case, it sounds like there was 5,000 pounds of supplies and equipment going up to the space station so that is that is a real problem here to keep the crew on board the space station supplied over the next couple of years. The launch director just said on the nasa feed, mark, that the launch that all personnel are accounted for, no injuries. The spacecraft he said had classified crypted equipment on board and as result they need to keep a border near the area and are they talking about spy equipment in. Crypto graphic stuff is encoding. We dont use the space station for any military purposes. It is against the law and it is against the agreements we have with our international partners. But that doesnt mean there could be some sensitive coding. So not necessarily spy equipment, but other sensitive equipment that we dont want somebody to pick up. But the good thing is, it sounds like that it was a secure area, that is why no one was hurt, because they keep folks a good distance away to prevent injuries on the ground. It happened the way it was supposed to happen if you have to have an explosion. This is the best way to do it to prevent loss of life in that secure area. Well stay on top of this story. Mark kelly, the astronaut, thank you, very much. Mark obrien. Stay with us for all of the breaking news. Im wolf blitzer in the situation room, Erin Burnett Outfront picks up our coverage. Outfront tonight, breaking news, a rocket with classified crypto equipment explodes seconds after liftoff just moments ago. The rocket headed for the International Space station with classified equipment on board. What went wrong . Well show that to you and find out what happened with the breaking news. And more breaking news with new security measures, thousands of Federal Buildings across the United States as isis ramps up calls for terrorist attacks in the homeland. Lets go outfront. The breaking news tonight, a failed nasa rocket launch ended