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United states senate. My sister, debbie, god love you, debbie. We worked so closely together for so long. And as Vice President as well. Folks, look. We need to send gary back to another term and standing up for michigan. Michigan families, small businesses. He was our main congressional partner back in 2010 when we passed a critical legislation supporting small businesses. I remember, i remember the president giving me the responsibility to go out and round up support. The person my go to guy to get it done, i mean this sincerely, was gary. He was the go to guy. He always shows up and he always shows up for michigan. Like all of you, jill and i are so grateful to the governor and her family are safe. Its an unusual year. Governor, youve been through a lot but you are leader. You stand up straight and tall and you dont bend. Governor is not easy to lead in moments of crisis but that is a determines of whether you have a real leader. When you stepped up to the crisis. Youve stepped up. Youve done it and you keep doing it. As i said a moment ago youre pretty much doing it better than anybody else in the whole United States of america. Youve shown this whole nation just how tough and thoughtful you are, tough just like michigan. I got to believe this state has to be so proud of you. I know personally i am as ive gotten to know you and proud to call you friend, gov. We are grateful to the fbi and Law Enforcement who discovered these diagram terrorists and stopped them. And make no mistake, thats who they are. Domestic terrorists. Flat terrorists. Planning to blow up a bridge on american soil to threaten the lives of police officers, to kidnap an elected leader, and now we are finding out the same thing was happening in virginia. You know, its the sort of behavior you might expect from isis and it shouldnt shock the conscience of every american. The failure to condemn these folks is stunning from the outset. I remember it matters. Youve heard me say it before. Words matter. And the words of a president particularly matter. When the president tweeted liberate michigan, liberate michigan, thats will call that was heard. That was the dog whistle. Just like when he said there were, quote, very fine people on both sides in charlottesville as they came out of the fields carrying torches, their veins bulging and shouting antisemitic vile and accompanied by the ku klux klan. The president was asked what he was thinking. He said no president has ever, ever, heard. There were very fine people on both sides. Those words were heard just like when he stood on the debate stage with me and refused to denounce white supremacists. But told that white ring Extremist Group to, quote, stand back and stand by. Stand back and stand by. An american president. Not only shocked us but it stunned the world. Those words we heard. You know the reason and i decided to run for president and i know that debbie knows this. I had not planned on running ever again after my son died. But when i saw those folks coming out of those woods i thought, how in gods name, how in gods name can i remain silent . I said at the time, it was somewhat not criticized but people didnt think it was, well, i dont know what it was. When i said, i think we are in a battle for the soul of america. I think we are. What i shaw in charlottesville and the president s response to it is why i went to gettysburg battlefield of pennsylvania last week. Because i thought there was a need to stand up to hate in america and urge as loeincoln d to come together as a nation. What ive learned, hate never goes away. It only hides. It never goes away. If you give it oxygen, it comes out from under the rocks. It grows. We need to be clear from the president on down in this country there is no place for hate in america, period. None it will not be tolerated. President trump revels in division and chaos and do anything to distract us from focusing on his failures to deal with this virus and to protect the nation. He is still living in a dream world. He keeps telling us that this virus is going to disappear like america. He said, i think last night in his town hall, i didnt have the pleasure of hearing it, i was doing one myself but he said we have turned the corner. As my grandfather finnegan might say he has gone around the bend. Turned the corner. My lord. Its not disappearing. In fact, its on the rise again. Its getting worse as predicted. We all know the terrible price this nation has paid. Lives lost, unemployment way up across michigan and the country. Folks are worried about making their next rent payment or mortgage payment. Whether their health care will be ripped away in the middle of a pandemic that you worked so damn hard, gary, to keep. Worried about we talked about this kids in school, are they about to get back to school . More than 215,000 americans, i think its 217 as of this morning, americans have died from covid19. Experts have said an saying the last month and a half that nearly another 200,000 lives are likely to be lost in the coming months between now and the first of the year, if, if we continue to reap fuse to follow science, because you refuse to embrace wearing a mask. How many times on television have you seen him make fun 6 biden wearing a mask . Because he refuses to practice social distancing and he puts his supporters in such jeopardy. Its estimated by his own folks if we just wore a mask nationally, almost 100,000 lives would be saved in the next few months. His own director of cdc said we are waiting for a vaccine. Even if we had a vaccine, this will prevent more deaths between now and the end of january than a vaccine would. You know what is really sad about all this . Ive been talking about this but every time i repeat it, i get more well, im not very happy. The president knew and lied about knowing. He knew in january. The Intelligence Community what they call the pdb, president s Daily Briefing which ive saturday in on hundreds and hundreds of them as Vice President , they laid out in detail to him how devastating this could be, how much lives could be lost, so on. He said he was unaware, didnt read those reports. That surprised no one. They did read the reports, but he did read the reports and everybody said maybe he didnt. But then as acknowledged because of his ego, he wanted to impress a famous journalist he thought he could change his mind about his view of him. Did a long interview with bob woodward. Bob woodward, a renowned journalist, taped the interview with him, extensive interviews. Hours. And he taped an interview that where trump said he knew this disease was deadly, significantly worse than the flu but that is not what he told you. Thats not what he told the public. The reason he lied again to American People . He said he didnt want to panic the American People. Americans dont panic donald trump panicked. Thats who panicked as a consequence, it was overwhelming lying, negligent and irresponsible action. How many empty chairs were around the Kitchen Table torhis morning, the dining room table last night . How many . How many women or men leaned over and they will got in bed last night and reached over to touch their husband or wife and they werent there . You all know what loss is. Its profound, especially when it was avoidable, much of it. But mishandling the pandemic isnt enough for trump. On top of that, he is still trying to take away your health care. Trump still is determined in the midst of this pandemic by the way, if projects, pray god they are not right, father, but if they are right, though, in the next several months, there will be over 200,000 additional deaths. That will be in one year 400,000 americans will have died. That is more than lost in all of world war ii. Hear me . World war ii was four years. More american souls would have been lost than world war ii. What is he doing . He is still determined to destroy the Affordable Care act. This isnt hyperbole. Just like your ontario calpponet a disaster. Talk about a disaster. Theres a disaster. The guy is 2000 or 200 whatever it is with trump. I hope everybody remembers. Look. As i said, this isnt hyperbole but its as real as it gets. On november 10th, the United States Supreme Court will hear the Trump Administration make the indicate it is Affordable Care act should be struck down in its entirety. I think everybody thinks they know but i want to remind you 10 million of you have lost your Health Insurance because your employers Health Insurance, they have gone out of business. 10 million americans already without Health Insurance. If trump gets his way, 20 million more americans will lose their health care. In the midst of this god awful economic crisis, 100 million americans will lose their protections for preexisting conditions, including more than 4 Million People right here in michig michigan. Lifetime limits and benefits on benefits will be back. Insurance and, by the way, you know, a lot of you have been through what ive been through and worse. But i can distinctly remember sitting on a bed with my beau, my son, and we came back the attorney general came back from a year of serving in iraq, which this president talks about lose losers. Losers. With the same significant disease that your mom had, stage 4 gleo blastoma. When he was diagnosed when he got home, we asked the docs, it was only a matter of months, not if, just months. We never gave up hope. But i remember watching him on that bed, he made it almost 16 mont months. Toward the end, this is not about me, its about all of you. I consciously thought to myself, what would it feel like if they were able to walk in and say, mr. Biden, youve outrun your insurance coverage. Suffered the last two or three months in pain on your own. Lots of luck. Because that is what was happening before. Insurers, if they win, and that is what this court pacting going on now is about. Insurers will no longer allow you to keep your kids on your policy until age 26 in the middle of this economic crisis. Women once again will be charged more for their Health Care Just because they are a woman. Older folks will be able to be charged more. As the governor said, longterm complications from covid will become preexisting conditions, joining asthma, diabetes, even pregnancies as a preexisting condition before and could allow insurers to jack up your premiums or deny coverage altogether. Getting rid of obamacare is why they are racing to get this nominee through the Supreme Court. Make no mistake about it, trump has made it clear from the beginning as your opponent has, he wants to get rid of obamacare in its entirety. With this nominee, he has made that incredibly clear as well. Michigan deserves so much better. Deserves leaders like gary and debb debbie. Public servants who lead with decency and honor, always look out for your needs. Think about how to ease the burden on your family. That is the sort of leader you got in gretchen and governor whitner as well. When she was in the state senator she led the charge to expand medicare and markedicaidr people from michigan. Even though the federal government is paying from the front end. Millions of people who have no coverage. After we passed gobamacare with the help of gary and debbie, we were able to reduce the uninsured rate by 55 here in michig michigan. If i have the honor of becoming your president we will build on the Affordable Care act no matter what they do. You can choose to keep a private plan if you still have one because some of the private plans negotiated are good plans. Youve been listening to democratic nominee joe biden speaking in southfield, michigan. Lets go to jessica dean. Tell me what you think the Vice President s closing message is here in this crucial battleground state of michigan. Jake, i think youre hearing it right now. In the end it comes down to health care and keeping the Affordable Care act. Biden campaign, an aide telling cnn that is the through line through so many issues. To it goes to do Covid Response and the covid pandemic and in response to trumps behavior and response to the covid19 pandemic. As biden talked about they are able to tie that to Amy Coney Barretts nomination to the Supreme Court. It is an all encompassing issue that they really believe people understand, Pay Attention to and listen to and they are looking touchback to 2018 as a road map of sorts because, remember, that is when democrats took back the house and they were able to do so by hammering home a message on health care, on protecting the Affordable Care act and you saw it right there below joe biden on the lectern he was speaking on, protect and expand and that is their message on the Affordable Care act to keep it and expand it and the message here in michigan. Lets sdaus this abodiscuss phillip and joe bump. You heard bide ep g after trump for the both sides comments and a nod to what happened in charlottesville and stand back and stand by to the proud boys at the last debate. The idea the president is whether its implicit, tacit or whatever the reason is that he is an ally of bigots. Yeah. I think that has become part of the closing message and in part because President Trump has allowed it to be part of the conversation right now. He has been given several really softball opportunities to knock down white supremacist, to knock down qanon. Because of that, joe biden has been able to come back to this message that has animated his campaign really from the very beginning and basically say to the public, this is not the type of leadership that you want. I really dont think that this is to President Trumps advantage. It would be so easy for him to simply just knock this to the side and not say any sort of conciliatory things about qanon and not part of the agenda in the final 20 days of this campaign but as it is, it seems to have been become Rearview Mirror a gift to joe biden in these final days. Phillip, president as abby eluded to continue to spread and endorse these deranged conspiracy theories. Last night he said he did not know whether what qanon says is true. The idea is country is secretly run by a satanic cult. Take a listen. Let me tell you what i do hear about is that they are very strongly against pedophilia and i agree was that. But not a satanic run cult . I dont know. You dont know . No i dont and neither do you. I dont know that and neither do you know that. He is talking about the nation is secretly run by satan worshipping and cannibalistic profiles. I dont know that and neither do you . What the actual f, phillip . That is the most r i dont know. The short answer is, as abby said he is he thinks he is a value vags doing battle against evil and protecting children. Not if he said qanon is ridiculous. Its not they will turn and make joe biden their savior. He is integral to the theory here. That also by the way, is what makes his failure to renounce them even more dangerous. Its not, yes, it is problematic he has to be dragged kicking and screaming to say anything bad about White Supremacy but here he is actively reinforcing a narrative of which he is at the center. He is saying this is absolutely false he is not only giving oxygen to this Conspiracy Theory but he is amplifying the fact it is a theory has him at the center and he is refusing to do it which i think makes it much more significant. A potential domestic terror theft as the fbi said in memos and one dead person. A woman had a car full of knives would was going to assassinate joe biden. That is one town hall. On toorhe other side, abc, bide took a different tone. He was asked what it would say about the country if he doesnt win. Here is what he had to say. It could say that im a lousy candidate and i didnt do a good job. But i think i hope that it doesnt say that we are as racially ethnically and religionly at odds with one another as it appears the president wants us to be. A lot to criticize. The contrast between that moment of humility answering the question and the tasmanian devil we saw in miami, it was stark. Yeah, say what you will about joe biden or even about that answer. It was a reasonable answer. You might disagree with what he had to say. But you couldnt say that he was being sort of out of the box here. By contrast, in response to a similar question like that, President Trump has and would say that, you know, he would only lose if there were some sort of shenanigans going on or fraud or what have you. Look. The tradition of american politics requires that our political candidates have that kind of humility if they lose it is the will of the people and President Trump is reluctant to express that viewpoint which is in contrast. Its sort of antithetical to a year of politics in this country. The contrast could not have been more stark for viewers last night. I think its just a choose your adventure. The American Public are really deciding, you know, more so than at any time i think in recent history between two candidates who literally could not be more different in style and in substance. Phil, biden was also confronted with some of the controversial comments he made in the past when he told the radio host if an africanamerican was struggling to decide between him and trump, quote, you aint black, that was a big mistake that he said. Take a listen. Besides you aint black, what do you have to say to young black voters who see voting for you as further participation in a system that continually fails to protect them . The answer is there is two things i think that i care and ive demonstrated i care about my whole career. One is in addition to dealing with a criminal Justice System to make it fair and make it more decent, we have to be able to put black americans in a way to generate wealth. That is just a snippet of his answer but, phil, biden later said to stick around so they could continue their conversation and he did and biden stuck and talked with the audience after the town hall wrapped. What did you make of that moment . A couple of things. First is that in his answer, one of the fundamental issues here which is systemic problems, right . Donald trump has repeatedly denied there are systemic issues that are plaguing black americans in particular. Joe biden got to it pretty directly there. Second thing is one of the fascinating dynamics here is that joe bidens flaws as a candidate are that he tends to meander a little bit. He tends to exaggerate that he has verbal slipups. Those things are almost entirely muted by the fact he is running against donald trump. No one will worry as much as bidens exaggerations than running against mitt romney. One of the things we heard in a speech biden gave one of the things he is offering to the American Public is what abby said this level of chill. That things are just going to settle down. He is just going to do his thing. His tone, his presence all that have is meant to reinforce that message too, although not explicitly. Phillip bump and abby phillips, thank you. Have a great weekend. We work at those who word with and for President Trump. Cnn learned that former retired chief of staff john kelly has said, quote. This brand had you in any reporting is from our new special report the insiders a warning from former trump officials. It is airing sunday at 9 00 p. M. Eastern time only here on cnn. With just 18 days until the election, President Trump is spreading more falsehoods about coronavirus and he is also spreading coronavirus. Cnns dr. Sanjay gupta is here with a reality check next. Or cold . What . Introducing the new sleep number 360 smart bed. 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Potential trump on a potential virus superspreader spree holding rallies in georgia and florida today. As Jeremy Diamond responsibilities the president is falsely claiming his handling of the pandemic is a success as the u. S. Passes 8 million confirmed cases of coronavirus. Reporter today President Trump is playing defense, campaigning in two states he won four years ago but where he is now on the ropes. In florida the president battling to win back a key demographic turned off by his handling of the pandemic. Since the gij obeginning our nations seniors have been our top priority. Im working hard so you can kiss your family soon. Trump partnering with cbs and walgreens to deliver a vaccine to nursing home but his pitch was riddled with false claims in comparison with europe seeing a surge but far fewer deaths in per capita than the u. S. After a pair of events in florida, the president will rally supporters in georgia, a red state he carried by five points in 2016 but where polls say the race is now virtually tied. Despite the warning signs, trump insisting big crowds and great enthusiasm signaling a massive red wave coming. As for the wave of coronavirus cases that is threatening the country . We have done an amazing job and its rounding the corner. Reporter the president is still in denial and continuing to spread misinformation. The president also offering this hazy answer to the question of whether he will tested negative before debating joe biden last month. I dont know. I dont even remember. I test all time. Did you take a test on the day of the debate is the bottom line. Probably did and i took a test the day before and the day before and i was in great shape and for the debate. Reporter he is accusing democrats are leading a pedophile ring. He know nothing about qanon. I know they are strongly against pedophilia. I do agree with that. But not a satanic pedophile cult run i dont know. You dont know that . Okay. No, i dont know that. Reporter as for the conspiracy theories, trump promoted himself like the ludicrous lie about the navy s. E. A. L. S that killed osama bin laden. That was an opinion of somebody. That was a retweet. Youre the president youre not like someones crazy uncle reporter im going to sound like a broken record the next two weeks plus but what the president is doing here today and going to continue to do every day for the next two weeks is reckless according to every Single Health expert. You can see behind me thousands of people gathered. Because president of the United States asked them to come here. Very few Wearing Masks. You can see no social distancing to speak of. Jake . Jeremy diamond, thanks so much. Stay safe. Joining us now to discuss all of this and more is cnns chief medical correspondent sanjay gupta. Im going to play this clip but before i do, as always, i want to tell our viewers this is not true in terms of the accusations he is making. Take a listen. As we shelter highrisk americans with extreme vigilance, we must also allow all over risk americans to return to work and return to school. We cannot allow unscientific panic driven fearbased policies to deny our children and grandchildren their future. It sounds like he is kind of promoting the herd immunity theory there protect the vulnerable but kids and workers should go back. We all theoretically would love to return to work in the way we used to and send our kids back to school as we used to. But i still have not heard a legitimate plan from the president. This sounds a lot like herd immunity which would kill 1 to 2 million americans. These are the exact talking points from the barrington recommendation that has come about advocating herd immunity. He with know they should be in a bubble and everybody go back to their lives. Sounds reasonable but one of two things. It doesnt work. Older people with preexisting conditions have been largely at home and seeing young people become infected and the death rate still occur in people who are vulnerable. This is a contagious virus. One person latches on to one over here. She sisters with someone who works in a nursing home they travel over here. You get the idea. Its very challenging. Also let me show you what we are talking about in terms of vulnerable individuals. Want to protect the vulnerable individuals. If you look at it by age and over the age of 65 and if you look at it with preexisting conditions, people under the age of 65 with preexisting conditions i think we have the graphic. Its close to 92 Million People that we are talking about here, right . Put 92 Million People into a bubble. It doesnt work which is why every Public Health official has been against this and that to say nothing of the fact that between 1 and 2 Million People would die under that strategy, hospitals would become overwhelmed. Its just not a good strategy. There are countries around the world that havent had to shut down because they have always been able to keep the virus under control. Because we have such widespread virus right now, still in this country at this point, that is why we are still having these challenges but the answer is not to basically wall off a third of the country. President Trump Holding this rally in florida. You just saw. Then he is going to hold a rally in georgia and hold one in wisconsin tomorrow. These are three states with alarming covid warning signs right now. The death toll just passed 16,000 in hospital and 82 capacity in georgia. We already know for a fact that after trump rallied in tulsa, after trump rallied in minnesota, after he held the event at the white house, people got sick. Some people, its entirely possible herman cain died, the time line matches up. Obviously we dont know for a fact when he got the virus but it certainly could have been in tulsa. Do you think these rallies like the white house event a few weeks ago are likely to become superspreader events . Yes. I really do. The issue is that the virus is the constant here. It is very contagious. You put people together for long periods of time, longer than 15 minutes, closely clustered and maskless. Those are the ingredients for a superspreader event. Because so many newly infected people in this country every day Contact Tracing has become a futile task. How do you Contact Trace 50,000 people every day . It would be an entire sector of our society dedicated to doing that. But what we did, we have reporting on this tonight, jake, we were able to go back to these cities, tulsa you mentioned, phoenix and oshkosh, wisconsin in the beginning of august. You know after people are exposed to the time they get hospitalized is typically a few weeks. Right . That is easier statistic to sort of trace because the number of cases people dont get tested, its hard to actually Contact Trace back to the event but hospitalizations is a truer measure. In tulsa as you mentioned herman cain may have been exposed at that event and subsequently died. We know hospitalizations went up threefold a few weekends after tulsa. We know in phoenix, hospitalizations were about 2,000 per day in phoenix at the time of that rally. It went to 3,000 so it sent up a significant amount. Oshkosh, hospitalization up 20 within that time after the rally. Cause and effect is always going to be challenging to draw but look what happened in all of these cities a few weeks after. People got sick. Hospitalizations went up. Was it directly related to the rally . We may never know but in places where the virus is spreading like this, its really challenging. He swore in oath to protect the American People. Dr. Sanjay gupta, thank you so much. Major worries for one state at the center of this latest coronavirus surge. The president heading there for a rally even though they just had to open up a field hospital. Stay with us. I dont like veggies. What . whatever you have at home, knorr sides can turn nutritious veggies into mouthwatering meals. Veggies taste amazing with knorr. combative yelling he used to have bad breath. Now, he uses a capful of therabreath fresh breath oral rinse to keep his breath smelling great, all day long. combative yelling therabreath, its a better mouthwash. At walmart, target and other fine stores. A good education takes you many different horizons and that sticked to my mind. So, when 1 a day came out, i said, why not . 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Make more of whats yours. In our health lead. 32 states trending upwards in cases. Among them wisconsin. Right now is reporting record high deaths, cases, and hospitalizations. Its a horrible trend. Joining me now, is dr. Agnes crest, an Infectious Disease physician in green bay, wisconsin. Thank you for joining us. Both hospitals you work at are at near capacity. Tell us what youre seeing on the ground in your hospitals. Thats right. Thank you so much for having me. So the numbers are really unbelievable. We have never seen numbers quite this high. Our hospitals are at near capacity and for the city of green bay, we have over 130 people hospitalized just with the coronavirus. The real issue is where does that leave the rest of the patients who are still coming in with their strokes and heart attacks and how do we find places for them . Wisconsin, with its record high hospitalizations, if cases continue to go up, are hospitals going to be able to handle the surge . What do you do . So that is a really difficult question. We are trying our best and we are trying to treat people very aggressively as effectively as we can and the whole scary part about this is that we havent even yet started flu season. Doctor, why do you think wisconsin is seeing such a surge . So its a hard question, but i really have to say that it comes down to human behavior. We saw an outbreak and we actually made National News in may as well when there was the outbreak at the meat plants and other manufacturing plants. But, at that point, people were still at home and we knew where the focus of the infection was and now its different. Its different because there isnt one zip code, one employer. Its all over. Its Community Spread and its just because people are being a little bit lax here and there and it all adds up to our positive iterate. President trump is heading to wisconsin tomorrow for a rally. He has been doing all of these rallies over the country and people are not Wearing Masks and not socially distancing. The mayor of milwaukee is warning there could be another superspreader event like what we saw at the road gardse garden a weeks ago. Are you afraid of that happening . Absolutely. In no place am i to tell anybody what to do but at this point, we are recommending not to have any kind of gatherings and even to the point of family gatherings where people from different households getting together is a risk too. Are you worried about case getting worse in the winter months when flu season approaches and hits hard as well . Absolutely. Were always worried about whats going to happen with people getting the flu vaccine or not getting the flu vaccine and the whole coronavirus issue is a wild card. This is unprecedented. I dont know whats going to happen. Dr. Kresh, is there anything you want the federal government to do, anything people can do to help out . 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Weve got over 2 weeks to go but look at the polling averages in the three states you just mentioned. Michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. You see clear leads for joe biden. And more than that, over 50 of the vote. And that, of course, is a level that Hillary Clinton never reached. Now, whats so important about michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin is that if you look at the electoral map and add that to the states that Hillary Clinton won back in 2016, you get over 270 electoral votes. 279 and bidens lead in those states including michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin have been at 5 points in both september and october. So its been pretty consistent, jake. What is working for biden this these states and, you know, is it definite that the numbers are going to hold . I mean, look, its not definite that the numbers are going to hold but the numbers make a lot of sense to me, right, because if you look at the national polls, two key groups play a key role in the midwestern states you mentioned. Plurality in each of the states and white women. What you see is white women back in 2016 in the final preelection polls, trump was leading among them by 5 and now biden up by 12 points. It was a 17 point shift. Look at noncollege whites who are a huge portion of those states. Look here. Trump won those nationally by 30 points back in 2016, now his lead cut nearly in half to 17 points, so the movement were seeing in the midwest battleground states does seem to correlate and line up with what were seeing nationally with two key core demographic groups. We know, harry, from the new fundraising numbers that candidates release, both of them have a lot of money to burn in the 18 days left. Is there a lot of Financial Resources put into these midwestern states . Yeah, another big reason why i think joe biden is doing so well in the three key midwestern states. Michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. Look at how much money hes spent on the air waves compared to donald trump. He is basically just crushing him in all of those states. In michigan, he has 32 million, versus 12 million for trump. Pennsylvania, 54 million versus 24 million and wisconsin, 27 million versus 10 million. Biden has been able to get his message out in the key swing states in a way that trump simply hasnt been able to. These midwestern states may be among the most contentious on election night. States with a narrow victory in 2016. Final results for 2020, frankly, could take a while. Yeah, they really could. Two reasons why. Right, number one, the deadline to get your ballot in. In some states, arizona, florida and wisconsin, votes must be received by election day but they only need to be postmarked by election day, so it could take longer to wait for the final votes to come in and finally, on the votes being processed, right, this is another key thing. In michigan, in the big cities, in michigan and the big cities, they get started to count before election day and a lot of michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin, they can only start processing these ballots on election day, which couldnt delay the counts in those states. Officials in pennsylvania constantly telling me they might not have an answer on the final vote count until thursday or friday. Harry anton, thank you so much, good to see you. Wed like to take this moment to honor one of the lives lost to coronavirus. One of more than 216,000 in this country. Felipe gonzalez died a few days before his 58th birthday. He fought for his life for five weeks before dying alone in a hospital from covid complications. Gonzalez was a musician, he was talented at both the guitar and the keyboard. He filled his home with music, playing all the time for his four children and his wife of 34 years. Gonzalez is remembered by them as being kind and humble, a loving family man who leaves behind a devastated family, who misses him dearly. So sad. May his memory and the memories of all of those we have lost during this horrific pandemic be a blessing. This morning on state of the union, Trump Campaign and the senior adviser, lara trump and senator chris coons and jb pritzker. And the insiders, a warning from former trump officials. Airing sunday, 9 00 p. M. And midnight. Our coverage on cnn continues right now. This is cnn breaking news. Welcome to our viewers here in the United States and around the world. Im wolf blitzer in the situation room. Were following breaking news. A sobering new milestone in the coronavirus pandemic. The United States has now confirmed more than 8 million cases. Thats more than any other country in the world, and one million of them in just the last three weeks. Also, tonight, the death toll has topped 218,000 people