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That theres no real answer to, theres no explanation needed. You can just repeat these things, and theres no way to, kind of, prove or disprove. Youll find out. Waiting for jfk sunday at 8 00 p. M. Eastern and pacific right here on cnn. The news continues. The source with kaitlan the source with Kaitlan Collins starts now. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com tonight, straight from the source, a special one on one with israels Prime Minister, benjamin netanyahu, who just spoke with Kaitlan Collins about that Historic Deal that may be on the horizon with saudi arabia. The feuer over the controversial overhaul, his relationship with former President Trump, and more. Plus the bars of gold and the cash growing and the pressure growing for bob menendez to resign after being indictmented once again on corruption chaerjs. And the State Attorney General calls the trump charged brainwashed. Did she undermine her own case . Im brianna keilar, and this is the source. Good evening. Im in for Kaitlan Collins, who sat down with israels Prime Minister, benjamin netanyahu, following his address at the United Nations today and amid what could be a truly historic break through for his country. Netanyahu telling and showing the world earlier what a new middle east could look like. He says israel is on the, quote, cusp of a deal with saudi arabia that would not only normalize their relations but encourage other arab states to do the same. And increase prospects of peace with palestinians. Netanyahu finally met with President Biden wednesday, their first facetoface meeting since netanyahu returned to office. Biden had been keeping his distance, freezing the israeli leader out for nine months over his governments highly controversial attempt to overhaul israels democratic system and reduce oversight of his government. Heres kaitlans oneonone with Prime Minister netanyahu. Mr. Prime minister, thank you for being here. Happy new year. Thank you, you too. One of the things that you discussed with President Biden when you met in new york was the potential deal to normalize relations with saudi arabia. We heard from the crown prince, mohammad bin salman. He said he believes talks are getting closer. How close do you think talks are . Ill say that every day we get closer. And how close are you today . Closer than we were yesterday. Do you feel that a deal is likely . I think its possible. I think its likely because i think israel, saudi arabia, and the United States share a common goal, to change history, to make this quantum leap, another quantum leap for peace. We had one with the Abraham Accords with the United States, and we now have an opportunity with United States to change the middle east forever, to create not only not only to bring down the walls of anonymity but also to create a corridor of energy pipelines, railings, fiberoptic cables between asia, through saudi arabia, jordan, israel, and the united arab emirates. This is an amazing change. And im always careful about these things. I never exaggerate. I think this is a pivot of history. It could be pivotal. But of course any deal with saudi would require something in exchange for the palestinians. What significant concessions are you willing to make with them . I dont think its an exchange. I think they can benefit from this piece. And i think they made a mistake not joining the Abraham Accords and just keeping themselves out of it. I think they would be much wiser to enter this and see how they could be part of the process. Part of the process doesnt mean they have veto power over the process. If they have veto power over the process, we never had the Abraham Accords. And wed go for another quarter of a century without peace. So, no veto power. What are you willing to give the palestinians specifically . These are the things that i discuss in discreet forums in order to get something a i real result. Its much better to bring the entire package at one time. I will say this, and i think its important. I think that making peace with saudi arabia and basically beginning to end the Arab Israeli Conflict will also help us end the palestinian israeli conflict. And i think thats what people miss out. They think, oh, no, you have to first conclude the palestinian israeli conflict and then go to the arab world, go to the inside outapproach. I think its the Outside Inapproach that has a better chance. What is on the table . Is it opening the u. S. Consulate, reopening it in East Jerusalem for palestinians . Is it freezing the settlements on the west bank in areas that are earmarked for them . Are those things on the table in your view . Whatevers on the table, i will not jeopardize israels National Interest and our national security. I will not jeopardize success by speaking about it publicly, even on cnn. If you have something in your mind that youre not prepared to say now that you are willing to give to the palestinians in order to have this deal happen, how could you get your Coalition Government on board with that . I think people dont understand how our system works. My Coalition Partners joined me. I didnt join them. And they are they actually get to be when you actually look at decisions, what we actually do, theyre imminently sensible. I mean, they talk the talk, which is obvious. Thats what politicians always do. So, theyre just talking when your Finance Minister says, no concessions to the Finance Minister. I dont want to say what well end up doing. I think that when we actually come to the how do you say in baseball . You step to the mat. To the base . To the base, whatever, okay. We have to make had the decisions, and everybody sees the full package of what it is we bring to the state of israel to the middle east through ourselves and our neighbors and the world. I think theres a very good chance that everybody will go along. But thats surprising because i mean, you hear what your Finance Minister has said in recent days. Hes proves youly said that the palestinians dont even exist as a people. I think people have a hard time believing that you could have something where youre giving an exchange to the palestinians and you have a decision on board. I just passed to make my point, to stress the point, i just had a security Cabinet Meeting a few weeks ago, and i said our policy is to prevent the collapse of the palestinian authority. Thats the Governing Body of the palestinians. And we had a vote, ten people. Ten numbers of the security cabinet. Eight voted with me, one voted against me, and one abstained and passed. Thats my point. When you actually make the decisions, you know, its the main Stream Decisions that ultimately went out. And i think here, if we are successful in tackling the four, five main components of this agreement and i believe we can be, i think youre going to get a ground swell of support in israel, on the right, on the left, and from the international community. Would you be willing to blow up your coalition, essentially, to get this deal with saudi done . I dont think itll require that. You think theyll go along with it . Its whether i go along with it. Dont they have to go as well . No, the ultimate test is whether i and my the partners believe even members of your own party have been skeptical. I have a democratic party, small d. I have a democratic party. People say what they want. They even criticize me. Im supposed to be this great dictator. They can say what they want. They got elected by me. If you look at what ive done over the years, when i was elected people said i destroyed the economy, built up an extraordinary economy had with our policies. They said ill destroy peace. I made four Peace Treaties with four arab states. But on this deal specifically they said id go to wear. Ive been very careful because ive suffered from slings of war. I lost friends, i lost my brother. Im very prudent in the way i use military force. Im decisive when i have to. I think we can if we overcome these obstacles and i dont want to minimize them. But if i do, i think, yes, i think ill carry my coalition and the country with it. Lets talk about this deal. Would you be okay with the saudis enriching uranium . I think that there are major issues there. So, you would not be okay with that . So, i think that what would happen is that we would not do anything in any way that would jeopardize national security. And on this, i have to tell you that i stand shoulder to shoulder with President Biden. We have israel and america have no daylight between them on this. Theres also an american law on this matter. So, you know, this is something that we stand on very strongly. What we can do and what we cannot do. And we have no qualms about either side of it. Okay. That sounds like a no. But you mentioned President Biden. After your meeting with him this week, the white house said that he, quote, reiterated his concern about fundamental changes to israels democratic system absent the broadest consensus. How can you deny the damage your push for this judicial reform is doing to israeli u. S. Relations . Well, i think the damage is not the reform. Its the way the reform is presented. Its some kind of collapse of democracy when all were talking about you know, what were really talking about is how we choose judges. In america, the elected officials, your politicians, choose judges that have to be confirmed by your parliament, by the congress. In israel, they say if chance, that would be a collapse of democracy. You think the white house misunderstands what youre proposing . I hope they understand it better now after this discussion. I think the discussion has been crazy, has been completely off the rails. It took weve never seen it take this long for an israeli Prime Minister to meet with a u. S. President. And the meeting didnt even happen at the white house. It happened at the sidelines of the summit here. Ultimately its our democratic decision, which will be prudent and responsible. I can tell you i took nine months, but the meeting was warm and it was a very good meeting. It was a very good meeting and i think can lead to a successful outcome. The Supreme Court is considering parts of that judicial overhaul. Can you say that you are willing to abide by whatever it is that the Supreme Court decides . I think we should abide by the Supreme Court rulings, and the Supreme Court should abide by the basic laws that it legislate es. I think we should keep both sides of this basic bargain of democracy. Thats not a yes or a no. Thats the right answer. Will you abide to this decision related to this reform specifically . I want to have us continue to abide by the Supreme Court rulings, and i want the Supreme Court to continue to abide by the basic laws. And thats, i think, the correct balance. I think its really notable that you wont answer this question. You wouldnt answer it to wolf blitzer. Youre not answering and its a yes or no question. Well, its a yes or no question if you also answer the other part. And we havent answered it. I hope we dont get to that. I dont think we should. If they rule tomorrow, what do you do . Well, lets hope that we both do the prudent thing and remain in the basic principles that guide our democracy. You know, in a democracy, no one power has absolute power over the other powers. In israel, you know, the Supreme Court has all the checks but no balance. Its important to have but its the only check on your coalition, you and your coalition. No, its not. What are the other checks . Well, they can cancel a lot of laws. Do they have the power to cancel basic laws . Its basic this argument youre making. I looked this up. Its not like they use this all the time, they strike down a lot of laws. I think its only happened 22 or so times ever. Thats a lot. Since 1997, theyve only done it 22 times. Theyve also issued a decision, which impowers the Attorney General to knock down any decision made by the government. Any decision made by the government. Can you imagine a system where the Supreme Court tells the Attorney General of the United States who could pass from one administration to the next, that you can strike down one there are more checks and balances in the u. S. No, no, no, just a minute. Checks and balances. Can you imagine this and of course not. No country in no democracy on the planet you have the powers or the representative in the Attorney General, the Legal Adviser of the government. I think its that youre not saying yes or no. I do want to ask you one other thing that one other thing is about former president , who you may remember cursed out netanyahu for congratulating President Biden on his victory. New charges against the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and his wife. The stunning evidence, bars of gold, hundreds of thousands in cash, some of it cashed in the senators windbreakers. One e of seven endless choices r just 20. Right now, only at red lobster. Welcome e to fun dining. It immediately feels like somebodys poking directly on the nerve. I recommend sensodyne. Sensodyne toothpaste goes inside the tooth and calms the nerve down. And my patents say you know doc, it really works. If we want a more viable future for our kids, we need to find more sustainable ways of doing things. Americas plastic makers are investing billions of dollars in new technologies and creating Plastic Products that are more recyclable. Durable. And dependable. 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He moved the embassy to jerusalem, recognized our sovereignty over the golden heights. He went out of what i thought was a disastrous iran agreement. So, those comments dont bother you . Ive been long enough in the political life to look to put aside, you know, the Periodic Ebb And Flow of emotion and to look at the substantive positions that leaders and allies have gone. I respect what was done. And i appreciate it. So, yeah, i dont particularly care for that. I mean, i dont care about it is the way i would say it. Mr. Prime minister, thank you for your time today. Happy new year. Thank you. Thank you. Im joined now by josh roguen, Foreign Policy columnist for the washington post. Lets start with the potential saudi deal. Hes talking about getting to this quantum leap. Netanyahu, of course, would have to give something up. Kaitlan pressed him on that. He wasnt going to give on it. What would that be . To be sure, there is a lot of upside in a potential u. S. , israel, saudi arabia deal. But theres no way thats going to happen without some significant concessions on the israeli side. On the palestinians. And as you saw, Kaitlan Collins pressed him very, very hard, and he wouldnt admit to even one that he would really consider. And thats a big problem. And you know, you have to match that with what you see on the ground, which is that netanyahus far right coalition is expanding settlements and those settlers are perpetrating violence on palestinians. That doesnt create conditions for a good deal. Thats not just a matter of him keeping his powder dry. To be sure, theres an element of negotiation. But Everybody Knows what the gaps are on the Uranium Enrichment that kaitlan pointed out, on the palestinian issue. There are a lot of them. But he was pretty clear he doesnt want saudi arabia to have Uranium Enrichment. Its really easy to get to this stage. To get to the deal is going to be really hard. I think they all have a political incentive actually to talk about this. It distracts from the things that are going on at home from netanyahu and mbs. It keeps biden in the box a little bit. Its hard for him to criticize those two guys while theyre dealing. You think its just a big shiny thing . I think there could be a situation and i hope this is not true where they dangle this in front of biden, and as the election comes closer, here comes president , their friend, their buddy, the one that m. B. S. Is giving 2 billion to his soninlaw, the one that Prime Minister netanyahu clearly prefers. If you were those two guys, would you give the huge owin to President Biden or wait to see, maybe trumps going to come back. So, i think the closer to the election, the harder the deal is to get frankly. He did dangle it. He spoke about it. Heres what biden and netanyahu said. If you and i, ten years ago, were talking about normalization with saudi arabia. And i think we look at each other like, whos been drinking what . Good irish whiskey. Interesting moment. But when you see the protests that have been happening in israel over his judicial reforms, did answers that he gave to kaitlan give you any reason to think hes listening to the concerns of his people, that hes listening to leaders like President Biden on this issue that theyre so concerned about . Hes clearly listening and he clearly doesnt care about those concerns. Hes clearly rejecting those concerns and doubling down on his plans. And theres no sign that hes going to slow down. Now, i think to be honest what the white house is pushing for is for that Netanyahu Coalition to reach a consensus with the Pop Situation where they can move past this. I think thats a worthy goal actually. I think its a possibility that could happen. But based on the answers that he gave to kaitlan, and she pressed him pretty hard, very hard actually, he didnt show any give at all. And in fact, the signal you would have to get from that interview is that theyre going to go full speed ahead. And it makes sense from the domestic position why they would do that because now is when they have the chance to do it. I think, again, improving u. S. israel relations is necessarily a good thing, but its not going to change bidens idea that netanyahu is a threat to democracy in israel. And its not going to change that netanyahu is a threat to his political standing. Thats the two old gentleman who have known each other for 50 years. They like each other but theyre fundamentally opposed and thats not going to change. Great to have you. To the stunning second indictment of a u. S. Senator, and not just any senator here. Were talking about the chairman of the powerful Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Democrat bob menendez facing Bribery Charges again. And the evidence is jaw dropping here. Were talking look wads of cash, hunks of gold, a mercedesbenz. 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Federal investigators say they found a veritable Treasure Trove in his home, gold bars worth more than 100,000, a mercedesbenz convertible and about half a Million Dollars in cash hidden the in envelopes and even in a jacket embroidered with the senators name. The governor of illinois says the alleged facts are so serious, hes growing from a large number of senators calling on him to resign. It is not lost on me how quickly some are rushing to judge a latino and push him out of his seat. I am not going anywhere. Paula reid is with us on this story. I think what people are judging is the gold bars, the wads of cash, and this Email Traffic that aligns with some Policy Decisions that the senator was involved in as the chairman of the very powerful Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Walk us through some of what he is alleged to have done here. And we should also mention he is temporarily stepping down from that position, according to leader schumer. Incredibly serious accusations here. They allege that he was advocating on behalf of egypt. For example, he allegedly ghost wrote a letter to other senators advocating for more aid for egypt. He also, and perhaps most seriously, allegedly shared Sensitive Information with egypt about u. S. Embassy personnel. Now, in exchange for this, in part, his wife allegedly received a noshow job. But the fact that he may have been advocating on behalf of a foreign government, perhaps against u. S. Interests, is an incredibly serious charge to be levied against a u. S. Lawmaker. What else stood out to you in what was nearly a 40page indictment here. In addition to whats going on here allegedly with egypt, just how brazen this was, especially from a lawmaker, who just a few years ago was charged with corruption. That did not end with a conviction. Its just incredible to me that following that experience, really immediately following the acquittal on that particular set of charges, he is engaging in this. He has wads of cash in a jacket in his house with his name on it. His wife is driving around in this incredibly expensive luxury car. Its been interesting over the past 10 or so years of covering these kind of cases, you expect the people who go through Something Like that, especially someone whos a u. S. Lawmaker, youre under scrutiny for everything in your life. You would expect those people would be more discreet if theyre going to engage in this kind of behavior or maybe not engage in this diend of behavior. Ive seen this again and again, people are now inexplicably emboldened. He was googling how much is one kilo of gold worth . There are emails where hes saying, delete this email. There is, very importantly, this email and digital paper trail or digital trail i should say . What is that . Is that generational . Its not how you do it. What you email or what happens to your search history. Again, this is a sitting u. S. Senator, someone who has been charged with crimes. To leave this kind of trail for federal prosecutors is almost more of a Psychology Question than a legal question. In both cases we should mention because this isnt his first brush with the law. In 2015, he faced conspiracy and Bribery Charges. Prosecutors alleged he accepted more than 620,000 in lu all exchange for political favors. Both of these cases hes defending his actions as part of the normal business of a senator. How does that ring to you . So, the problem he has here, the previous set of charges, obviously similar allegations. You receive money or gifts in exchange for political favors. Here you have some of that with allegations he was trying to influence the selection of the u. S. Attorney. You could see a good Defense Attorney perhaps successfully advocating on your behalf. But then you get to this alleged conduct related to egypt and there is no ordinary Course Of Business where you share Sensitive Information about u. S. Embassy personnel as part of your job as a lawmaker. But legally speaking, the Supreme Court has made this a little more difficult for federal prosecutors. You remember the former governor of vir who is convicted on corruption charged, i covered that trial, watched it go through. They overturned that convecicti where some of the facts he was receiving certain gifts, allowed to borrow a sports car. What the sport warn about, he said, look, prosecutors cant draw too broad a circle around what constitutes official duties. Some of this is just politics. Here in this case, the allegations against senator menendez, when it comes to egypt and a foreign government, it is hard to square how that is in any way part of the ordinary Course Of Business. Very interesting to continue to watch here. Paula reid, thank you so much. We do appreciate it. It will be History In The Making, a sitting u. S. 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Uaw president shawn fain invited biden to join them, after announcing the union is broadening its strike against General Motors and stellantis, while talks with ford progress. The uaw has yet to back a president ial candidate, even though they endorsed biden in 2020. Joining us, we have kate bedingfield. So, kate, we should note, early september, biden says he doesnt think a strike will happen. The uaw president , shawn fain, sure did not like that. Now hes going to be the first sitting president ever to do what hes going to do on tuesday. Is he making up for a misstep . And do you think this is going to get him the endorsement of the union . Remember, the Cardinal Rule of communications is show, dont tell. Essentially what biden and the white house is doing here is finding a backdrop. It gives him an opportunity to talk about all the things hes done to make working peoples lives better, but to do it in a dynamic way where the visual is obvious, its clear. Whether this gets him the unions endorsement, well see. I certainly couldnt prejudge that. He got the endorsement in 2020. He has put forth the first few years of the first term that have done a lot for working people. Hes going to spend a lot of of time reinforcing that over the coming weeks. Well see if he gets the endorsement. He got it in 2020. Its going to be a very fascinating week with trump there as well. He, a day ahead of biden. Hes going to be speaking to union workers. What does he need to say to convince them and i say this convince them that he is not part of the Billionaire Class that enriches itself at the expense of workers, as shawn fain described trump. Hes had some harsh words for the former president. I fully expect the former president to go there and not say anything. Hes not going to commit to anything. Hes not going to fully endorse the uniyes or no fully support the workers. I expect him to make this about joe biden and the policies the administration has for electrical vehicles and how that is the death nail of the automotive industry. I expect that to be more of his messaging. But hes going to come away saying im out there for the working man. The reality is joe biden, the president , has to go there. He has said hes the pro union president. He has to. When you say it, you have to do it. So, he has to. But many republicans, and those who support free markets in the private sector, look at this is a private sector issue. We can all agree the company heads, the deceos, the pay disparity if theres a problem here, it should be the shareholders in there pressuring the ceos to take action. And republicans are not in support of the unions getting in between and negotiating with workers and the corporate ceos. The other thing the president is doing on going the day before trump goes is sort of kneecapping donald trump here. Hes forcing donald trump to respond to him. Hes ensuring hes going to set the tenor of the coverage for the two days while he and donald trump are there. That contrast, i would imagine the Biden Campaign thinks will be very favorable for them. In the meantime, trumps gop rivals are increasingly looking for ways to break out. You have nikki haley, who is notably doing this by ramping up attacks on trump. She was asked about how he might be remembered ten years from now, and this is what she said. He was thin skinned and easily distracted. He didnt do anything on fiscal policy, weak in the knees when it comes to ukraine, a terrible thing happened on january 6th, and he called it a beautiful day. And in the eyes of america, it was a terrible day. All right. Thats her aside for sure. Does it help her . Does it hurt her . I think it does help. Look, you know, he does go on to say donald trump is thin skinned, hes distraekted. All of those things is completely accurate. A lot of easy to gop candidates are recognizing the fact now youve got to go through donald trump to get to President Biden. You have to. And this tiptoeing around him and doing everything you can isnt working. The difference between where donald trump is and the rest of the field is getting larger. So, they have to retool their strategy and have to go after him. Shes doing so in a way thats factually accurate. Shes also blaming him in part for the debt crisis that were having. And speaking honestly to the gop voters and the American People about trumps role in the economy. And shes also speaking truthful about Abortion Issue and Foreign Policy issues. But many of them are going to realize and i talked to several of the campaigns. On that debate stage next week, theres going to be a lot more arrows at donald trump than there have been in the past. Is it too late though . What do you think . I want to believe it helps her. Im not sure. I see a lot of evidence within the republican voting base that its going to help her. Weve continued to see donald trump extend his lead. I think for history, she is on the right side. Nothing she said i disagree with. But i think, you know, the problem that the Republican Party has is that donald trump has a almost cultlike Personality Style Lock on their voters. And theyre not interested in hearing facts. Most of his voters argue that he won the 2020 election fair and square. So, you know, they have not yet shown that theyre open to this kind of argument. Although i certainly applaud nikki haley for making it. I think history will look kindly on her for calling it out. Maybe its about how shell be seen in ten years or 30 years. The latest cnn university of New Hampshire poll is pretty interesting because it shows this stubbornness that were seeing among republican votersment there are hypothetical matchups between trump and republican candidates. A of voters ordered off menu. They wrote in trump still as their pick. For instance, in this poll of christie versus biden, 16 told us they would still choose trump. Okay. Hes not on the menu, but they are still choosing him. What do you guys make of this . They clearly a lot of republicans in New Hampshire, theyre supporters of donald trump. And were seeing that in the headtohead matchup on our cnn poll. Headtohead, donald trump versus joe biden, actually biden is doing better in this when hes up 52 and trumps up 40. But utrump is the best of the gp candidates in New Hampshire. People in New Hampshire are set in their ways. As we get closer to the first in the nation primary, theyre still window shopping. Theyre still looking. Theyre still going to make up their mind. And more people are going to go out into New Hampshire, do that retail politics, and change minds. And i expect those numbers in terms of these candidates against donald trump, its going to tighten up between now and then. Its also a reminder of the fervor around donald trump. You see people are willing to write in, desperate to say, i will not support anybody but donald trump. But he also engenders that kind of energy going the other way. He fires up the democratic base. Hes offputting to a lot of voters. To me thats the most interesting thing about this. It just is such a reminder that he energizes voters in a way nobody else does. Thats a very good point. Kate, alice, thank you so much to both of you. We appreciate it. Thanks for having us. Ahead. They havent yet gone to trial, but the Attorney General prosecuting 16 Fake Electors for donald trump in michigan is bad mouthing the defendants. The problem is, these are people who have been brainwashed. So, will that hurt her case . Next. When you smell the amazing scent of gain flings. Time stops. And you realize youre in love. Steve . With a laundryetergent. Gain flings. 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The Attorney General on camera doing something you almost never see a prosecutor doing, talking about the people shes prosecuting. The democrat, dana nestle, made these comments at a Virtual Event with liberal activists. The problem is, these are people who have been brainwashed. These are the 16 she called brainwashed, the Fake Electors donald trump wanted to lie and say he won wanted to say hed won michigan in 2020. Nestles office is trying to convict each of them on eight felony counts. Legal experts say she may have made that harder with comments like this. How do you flip someone who concedes that they did everything theyre accused of doing, but what they say is, we believe that we were in the right, we think that donald trump is the real winner of the election . They cant admit that what they did violated the law because they still think theyre right. Im joined by Former Federal Prosecutor shan woo. Why is the Attorney General speaking about a case, an active case, at a political event . Well, she shouldnt be speaking about it at the political event. Seems like this is a careless mistake, classic unforced error. Ultimately, i dont think substantively it will tank the case. It certainly does hand some ammunition to the defense team to make some hay with. They can argue that shes showing some bias, she may be tainting the jury pool potentially. And most importantly, of course, the use of that term, brainwashed, plays right into defense counsels likely argument that theres no criminal intent, they were just following orders they genuinely believed were correct. So shes created some issues for herself. Thats exactly right. Because its so important, right, that they would know that they are breaking the law. To that point, maybe someone whos brainwashed doesnt know that . Thats exactly right. I mean, the other problem with what cease shag is obviously its insulting, disparaging, prosecutors arent supposed to do that. But just as youre saying, on the substantive point, how are you arguing on the one hand they formed this criminal intent, they knew it was wrong, they wanted to do the crime on the other hand, saying frankly they dont have the mental capacity to figure out right from wrong. Thats what the issue is. Theres a hearing early next month on a motion to discuss the charges. Any chance that Defense Attorneys do not bring this up there . Zero chance they do not bring it up. Im sure theyll bring it up. I dont think theyre ultimately going to make too much hay with it. But that is an argument that she has now created for them, absolutely. So there was also this part where december sell was touting the jury pool for the upcoming case. The county where lansing is located is a very, very democraticleaning county. But i worry that there will be people who just wont care that they clearly violated the law, because they believed that the ends justify the means. And that, you know, its okay to do as long as the end game is getting this autocrat into office. Should she be commenting on stuff like that . No, she shouldnt. That is much more clearly potentially tainting the jury pool. Shes talking about the potential jurors, which leanings they may have, to the left or to the right. Thats problematic. She really should not be doing that. All right. Shan, thank you so much. Always insightful, shan wu. Next, an incredible 911 call after a Military Pilot Ejects from an american fighter jet that the pentagon initially could not find. Where that pilot ended up and the doomed plane. Ng, to h help you see untapped possibilities and relentlessly work with you to make them real. They slept on me for 15 years. Things i collected, pollen, dust, dander. 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