Nothing distracts us. Ill speak to a vaccine czar next. And Pressure Point. President trump goes to unprecedented lengths in his election fight, meeting with state officials in an unsuccessful effort to overturn the Election Results. Is the president damaging democracy . President trumps former National Security adviser, ambassador john bolton, and republican governor larry hogan, join me to discuss in moments. Plus, full speed ahead. President elect joe biden begins to stock his cabinet including the coveted treasury position, but will trumps transition blockade stop president elect bidens push forward . Ill speak to Senior Adviser to the Biden Transition Team jen psaki ahead. Hello, im jake tapper in washington, where the state of our union is suffering from a pandemic that is now spreading faster and more broadly than ever, according to Public Health experts, and suffering frankly from a severe lack of leadership as President Trump spends his fining weeks in office sulking and stewing over an election he lost by over 6 million votes in the popular vote and more than 50 in the electoral vote. Just hours ago, the president faced a major blow to his efforts to undermine the election when a federal judge in pennsylvania dismissed with prejudice a key lawsuit seeking to invalidate almost 7 million votes in pennsylvania. This morning, President Trump railed against the Paris Climate Accord in a prerecorded speech before the g20 summit which is virtual this year. Saturday, he was at his golf club instead of participating in a special side conference focused on the pandemic and the coronavirus tragedy. This is as the United States has now reached an unimaginable 12 million coronavirus cases and more than 250,000 deaths. A number Health Experts fear will only be turbocharged by family gatherings during thanksgiving just four days from now. The one light at the end of the tunnel, the one light, a vaccine could be weeks away from delivery with the fda now looking at pfizers vaccine for emergency use approval. Joining us is the chief scientific adviser for operation warp speed, dr. Moncef slaoui. Thank you for what you have been doing for the country and the world over the last year. Pfizer submitted its emergency use authorization for the vaccine on friday. An fda Vaccine Advisory Committee is slated to meet december 10th. This appears an extraordinary achievement. When do you expect the first person will be vaccinated . Well, our plan is to be able to ship vaccines to the immunization sites within 24 hours from the approval. So i would expect maybe on day two after approval, on the 11th or on the 12th of december. Hopefully the first people to be immunized across the United States, across all states, in all the areas where the state departments of health will have told us where to deliver the vaccines. You have said you plan to vaccinate 20 Million People in the month of december in the United States and up to another 30 million per month after that. How Many Americans need to be vaccinated for life to be able to return to normal and when might that happen . So normally, with the level of efficacy we have, 95 , 70 or so of the population being immunized would allow for true herd immunity to take place. That is likely to happen somewhere in the month of may or Something Like that based on our plans. I really hope and look forward to seeing that the level of negative perception of the vaccine decreases and peoples acceptance increases. Thats going to be critical to help us. Most people need to be immunized before we can go back to a normal life. I want to get to that in a second. But before we talk about the need for the public to understand that this is safe, these vaccines have moved significantly more quickly than other modern vaccines, development and approval. Its a process that usually takes years thats going to be accomplished in ten months. How confident are you there will not be any significant adverse side effects with these vaccines . What kind of reassurance can you provide . So, the way we have accelerated was to first capitalize on at least ten years of research around whats called platform technologies which is almost like a cassette player in which you can fit different cassettes for different music. Different cassettes would be different vaccines. In this case, the covid19 vaccine. So all the upstream part of the discovery that usually takes five, six years has been done in two months, literally. Then we run much, much larger Clinical Trials than required by the fda for an approval. So our level of understanding on the broad population basis of this shortterm safety of the vaccines is actually very good, better than what we usually have. What we are lacking is the longterm safety, just because its a fact. We cant follow up for too long on these vaccines while 1,000 to 2,000 people die every day. Thats the risk we know. Very importantly, two things. One, the fda has shown that for hundreds of thousands of individuals that have participated to Clinical Trials for vaccine over the last 40 years, 90 to 95 of all serious adverse events happen within 40 days from complete immunization. Thats the reason the fda said we need 60 days after completing immunization of safety observation before you can file. We know for the vaccines that are being filed, pfizer and moderna vaccine, there are no significant serious adverse events in that period of time. After, when we start to immunize the population, the cdc and the fda are setting up very, very thorough and active pharmacological vigilance in setting up the system. It will be as safe as other vaccines being used in the population and i would really urge people to listen to the experts, look at the data, keep their mind open, and hopefully accept to be immunized. Just to be clear, none of this was a result of political pressure . The expedited time line was just for health reasons, not because you felt pressure from any politician one way or another . 100 . I have to say, the operation has operated in full speed based on science. Focusing on patients and peoples need. No political interference. No bureaucracy, no red tape. Its been just an incredible visionary approach to put together science and the department of defense and industry in an incredible partnership. Frankly, its been exceptional. Can children be vaccinated with either the moderna or Pfizer Vaccines . If not, when will there be something to protect kids . So at this stage, the lowest age to which the vaccines have been given is the Pfizer Vaccine was 14, 12 to 14 years of age. I dont know whether the fda will approve the vaccine for use down to that age, maybe they will stop at 18 years of age and above. We are planning to run Clinical Trials into younger adolescents, then toddlers, then infants on an expedited basis over the last few months. I would expect that we can start immunizing them somewhere in the Second Quarter of this year, at least the toddlers. Probably the infants is going to take longer, maybe towards the end of the year. But march, april, may, you think there will be some sort of something for kids . Yeah. As of may, you know, toddlers. You know, 4, 5 years old. Maybe even down to 12 months old. But we need to run those Clinical Trials. On an expedited basis. You are obviously very and understandably concerned that theres a substantial share of the American People who according to polls have signaled their reluctance to take a coronavirus vaccine. Let me also say, im not one of them. Give me the vaccine, stick it in my arm. Im ready, but more than 4 in 10 americans say they would not take a new vaccine, according to a new gallup poll out this week. What is the strategy to convince americans who still have concerns about getting vaccines for themselves and their families . So first, we need to understand why we are in this situation. I really think its very unfortunate that the whole process has been politicized. And therefore, the context has created conditions whereby peoples perception has been exacerbated and we are where we are today. Secondly, i think people have misunderstood the level of efficacy that the fda aimed for, which was to say at least 50 efficacy. Maybe people thought that would be the efficacy of the vaccines. As we know, its 95 . Its almost a full insurance against this pandemic. I think, and i hope, thats going to change peoples perception. We aim to be 100 transparent, to have all experts discuss in the open in front of everybody absolutely 100 of the data and explain what the evidence is. And i think people just need to measure, heres the problem we have, the problem we know. 1,000 to 2,000 people dying every day. 200,000 people infected every day, and heres a vaccine that can give you almost an insurance against that, and we know its safe over a short period of time and we can predict its going to be safe over the longer time, and we will measure that. Let us know in the news media how we can help, too. Because obviously its very important that as many people as possible get immunized. More than 90 million americans are at higher risk of illness from the coronavirus. 51 million are more than 65 years old. 41 million have an underlying condition, according to kaiser. How is the decision going to be made about who gets the vaccine first . Obviously, we know Crucial Health care workers and people in Nursing Homes are going to be there, but in terms of americans who have comorbidities, preexisting conditions, who are seniors, and what about essential workers like teachers or grocery workers . Yes. So the operation is not involved in that decision. Whats going to happen, which is happening literally starting tomorrow, is that the cdc and its Advisory Committee for immunization practices, acip, are going to start looking into the data of the vaccine. At the same time as the fda is assessing the data. Authorization approval, the acip will meet and issue guidance. The cdc will issue guidance to all the states. Here are the populations that should be prioritized. But then, the way things are planned is we will distribute vaccines where each state department of health will have asked us to distribute it, and then it will be the state, each state will independently decide, taking into account the guidance, who to immunize. Some states may make different decisions depending on their population and their situation. But clearly, the highest risk people, the firstline workers, the Health Care Workers will be among the first to be immunized in the next three months after approval. Dr. Fauci told me last week that, quote, of course it would be better for the Public Health of the American People if the transition process began. And the Trump Administration began working with the Biden Transition Team. Do you agree with him that just as a purely Public Health matter, if you were able to talk with the incoming biden administration, this handoff would go smoother than being denied that ability . Of course. You know, smoothness is what we all aim for, and therefore, it would be better, but i have to say that what we have done over the last six, seven months is to absolutely stay outside of the political arena. And just make sure we focus on serving the population developing these vaccines, accelerating them, and making them available. We will continue to focus on that. Thats really important. Whatever happens around us, we will not look elsewhere than how can we make these vaccines faster available to the population. And i hope, you know, transitions will happen smoothly and things will be in order. Will you stay on board if president elect biden asks you to stay on board and keep doing what you have been doing for operation warp speed . I will continue to help as long as im asked to help. I may not continue to do it fulltime as i have. I volunteered my time over the last six months. I need to go back to my private life and business. I set myself an objective of having at least two vaccines approved and in use and two medicines approved and in use. Yesterday, actually, a second medicine has been approved within the portfolio of the operation, and hopefully within the next month, two vaccines will be approved. I need to make sure that all of the programs in the portfolio are running appropriately. I may move part of my time back into my private life, but i look forward to continuing to help the u. S. Population and the administrations. Well, youre an american hero, dr. Slaoui. We appreciate it. President elect biden says trumps election denial could cost american lives. Should his team be fighting the trump stonewall harder . Senior adviser to the transition, jen psaki, joins me next. Ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. Whoohoo great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health. Is often unseen. 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Joining me now, one of the people in charge of the biden harris transition team, jen psaki. Jen, thanks for joining us. Great to be here. Do you believe the Trump Administrations decision to block the transition has already started to jeopardize american lives because of the pandemic . Well, jake, as you heard president elect biden say earlier this week, the longer this goes, the more its going to jeopardize peoples lives. And peoples wellbeing. And of course, it is access to what were looking for is access to realtime information about whats being worked on with Vaccine Distribution and with Vaccine Development and all the plans for that moving forward. But its also about people having access to, you know, assistance. Small businesses having assistance, to americans getting their paycheck, unemployment insurance, things along those lines, jake, that could be delayed if there isnt ascertainment soon. So joe biden is president elect. Its very clear theres no path for outgoing President Trump to seriously credibly contest the Election Results. The next step in the process is the certification process. Georgia just certified its votes on friday. Led by the republican secretary of state and the republican governor. Michigan and pennsylvania are scheduled to certify their votes tomorrow. If you include all the states biden won that are not being contested, that means tomorrow, president elect biden, with michigan and pennsylvania, will have more than 270 electoral votes. If even after that gsa administrator emily murphy continues to refuse to allow the transition to begin, will you take legal action . Well, jake, what we have seen over the last week is that theres a rising tide of impatience, not just by president elect joe biden but by business leaders, democrats, and republicans. We saw senator toomey of pennsylvania put out a statement just yesterday about the clarity of the outcome moving forward. But legal action isnt our preference. If it was, we would have done it days ago because we have known the clear outcome for two weeks now and thats the only trigger for ascertainment. Were going to continue to put public pressure on, but not just us. I think thats going to continue and rise in the days to come. As you know or ill confirm for you here, president elect biden will be announcing members, cabinet nominees this week. Hes looking forward to that, introducing members of his team to the american public. And a key part of getting that group of individuals confirmed is fbi background checks. Fbi background checks cannot happen unless theres ascertainment. I expect not just democrats but republicans in the senate to be outraged they wont have access to that information. It could take weeks for that to happen. Thats another Pressure Point well see in the coming days. Lets talk about bidens cabinet picks. Were told this week, perhaps as early as tuesday, hes going to make some announcements on that. He has said hes already chosen a treasury secretary. Susan rice, dr. Susan rice has surfaced in conversations about secretary of state. A potential secretary of state. But obviously its very possible youre going to need to get these nominees through a Republicancontrolled Senate depending on what happens at the runoffs in georgia. Take a listen to two republican senators, Marsha Blackburn of tennessee, and tom cotton on arkansas. I cannot imagine a Republican Senate confirming susan rice to any position. It is hard for me to imagine that they would nominate susan rice. I understand you havent nominated anyone yet. But do you have concerns that Senate Republicans are going to block key members of the Biden Cabinet from being confirmed . Well, ill say, first, jake, im not sure senator tom cotton is going to be our bar here for, you know, approval of our nominees or reaction to our nominees. There are a number of republicans who have come out this week who have said they would support experienced and qualified nominees. Thats exactly those are exactly the kind of people who joe biden is going to announce and nominate this week and in the weeks to come. He spent a lot of time making decisions over the last week so there will be some this week. I expect there will be some the week following that. And you know, i think beyond that, jake, were facing a pandemic. As you have been talking about. Thousands of people have died from covid over the last few weeks. We have a recession. There are crises across the country. Joe biden needs people in place, needs cabinet nominees to help support him, moving this agenda forward. We dont need a fabricated crisis in the senate, and i dont think the American People are going to tolerate that if theres a refusal to move forward with qualified nominees. Take a listen to what senator Bernie Sanders said to the Associated Press this week about president elect bidens cabinet. He said, quote, it would be, for example, enormously insulting if biden puts together a team of rivals and theres some discussion thats what he intends to do, which might include republicans and conservative democrats but which ignored the progressive community. I think that would be very, very unfortunate, end quote. As you recall, jen, i have known you for a long time, from the Obama Campaign of 2007. A lot of progressives out there regret not fighting for more progressive nominees under president obama in 2008, 2009. If the obama cabinet was primarily centrist moderate democrats, is it a goal that the Biden Cabinet will have more progressive democrats than that one, than the original obama cabinet . Well, jake, president elect biden and Vice President elect harris were elected by a coalition of people across the country that included people who are progressive and moderate and republican, although most americans dont think of themselves by those definitions. Thats sort of a washington definition, and their cabinet and the team will look like america. So that means diversity of ideology, diversity of background. And he wants to have a range of views of people at the table. So i would encourage people to wait to see who he announces and nominates in the weeks to come. Of course, there will be some this week. More in the weeks following, but he wants to have a diversity of voices at the table because he fully understands thats how hes going to move an agenda forward. Can you confirm the first cabinet announcement will come tuesday . I can confirm its going to come this week. As you know, thanksgiving is on thursday, and i can assure you that president elect biden will be with his family on that day, as we all will be, so but it will come this week, and i think more in the weeks to come. All right, jen psaki from remote location in her own backyard. Thank you so much. Appreciate your time today. Thank you. Great to be with you, jake. My next guest, not surprised at all that President Trump is putting himself above the integrity of the elections, but what about Republican Leaders . Where are they . Former National Security adviser john bolton is here next. Still. And now your copilot. Still a father. But now a friend. Still an electric car. Just more electrifying. Still a night out. But everything fits in. Still hard work. Just a little easier. Still a legend. Just more legendary. Chevrolet. Making lifes journey, just better. To high quality Computer Science and stem education. I joined amazon because i wanted to change education and i am impatient. 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And a Republican Senate source tells cnn the combination of Rudy Giulianis wild news conference, which was dripping with misinformation, as well as the president meddling in the michigan election process, has some republican senators now reconsidering their silence. Joining me now, one of the Republican Partys toughest critics of President Trumps tactics, Maryland Governor larry hogan. Governor hogan, thanks for joining us. Two weeks ago, you said you believed President Trump would do the right thing in the end and concede. Since then, hes frankly done everything other than the right thing. Hes done everything he can to subvert the process, including pressuring state officials directly, phoning canvassing board officials and having legislators flown in. Do you still have confidence that President Trump will eventually do the right thing . Well, i have confidence that on january 20th, the president elect is going to be sworn in. But im not sure, you know, i can say that im confident that the president is going to do the right thing. Look, i thought that the pressuring of the legislators to try to somehow change the outcome with electors was completely outrageous. And quite frankly, i mean, we used to go supervise elections around the world, and we were the most respected, you know, country with respect to elections. And now were beginning to look like were a banana republic. Its time for them to stop the nonsense. It just gets more bizarre every single day. And frankly, im embarrassed that more people in the party arent speaking up. Well, lets talk about that. I wish i could say otherwise, but youre in the vast minority in the Republican Party in, a, acknowledging that joe biden is the president elect and will be sworn in on january 20th, and b, calling on President Trump to concede. Why do you think so few of your colleagues are willing to demonstrate even basic integrity and honesty here . Well, i just dont think there are a lot of profiles in courage, frankly, jake. We all know how vindictive the president can be. How powerful his twitter account is, and you know, how he can really pressure republicans and go after them. You know, very few of us are willing to stand up, but there are more and more. I mean, a number of my gubernatorial colleagues, a number of senators, quite a few house members, and i think thats slowly growing every day, and i think the others are quietly talking and telling the president their advice about what he should do. Hes just not following any of the advice. I want to play a clip for our viewers that will undoubtedly sound a bit familiar to you. Take a listen. Party loyalty and personal affection and precedence of the past must fall, i think, before the arbiter of mens action. The law itself. For our system of justice and our system of government to survive, we must pledge our highest allegiance to the strength of the law. Talk about profiles in courage. That was your father, then congressman larry hogan, sr. , breaking with the Republican Party during the nixon impeachment hearings. Are there any Republican Leaders in washington right now who you believe can and will show the kind of moral courage that your father did and that you are and tell President Trump its time to put the United States of america before his own brittle spirit . Well, thank you for showing that clip. You know, im so i learned so much about integrity and Public Service from my dad. That was a profile in courage when he stood up. It didnt win him any friends with the administration, but he did what he thought was right and he said no man is above the law. And its similar to what i have been saying for the past almost three weeks now. But i havent seen there have been a few people in congress. Senator romney, for example. But a few people that are standing up and speaking out pretty strongly, but theres an awful lot of them that are not. But you know, history will judge everybody just as they did during watergate. You and a Bipartisan Group of governors met virtually this week with president elect biden and Vice President elect harris to discuss their plan to combat the coronavirus pandemic. Now that youve had that discussion, do you think President Biden will handle the pandemic better than President Trump has . Well, we didnt really get first, it was a very productive discussion that we had with five republicans, five democrats on the executive committee of the nga. I thought it was great the president elect and Vice President elect reached out and set up that meeting. They were mostly in listening mode where they were asking us what was going on, because theyre not getting information from the Current Administration. And so i didnt hear a lot about what the Vice President s plans are. I think they are taking it seriously. My big concern is that we just have a smooth handoff, that because were in the middle of this terrible fight against this virus thats raging across the country, and we have, you know, the Current Administration and the new administration not even speaking to one another, while lives are at stake. And its kind of one of the worst things about this Current Situation we find ourselves in, with no communication and no transition. Tomorrow, the certification process takes place in michigan and pennsylvania. And look, president elect biden is the president elect. Thats been clear now for weeks. But tomorrow, the certification process will make that even clearer. Is there any excuse for gsa administrator emily murphy to not then after michigan and pennsylvania go forward with their certifications, delivering the 270 electoral votes to biden, is there any excuse for her not to begin the transition process . There would be no excuse whatsoever. And it would be disgraceful if they didnt begin the transition. I want to ask you also, you have canceled your thanksgiving plans with your family. A lot of people are not following your example. Youre only doing your immediate family. How worried are you that this could be a turning point for the worst in the fight against the virus, thanksgiving . Were pretty worried about it. Our Contact Tracing shows that family gatherings is the number one transmission event. Its just because you feel so comfortable, you know, you take off your mask. Youre spending time together with people you love and care about. And you dont feel like youre unsafe. Youre not going out to a bar or somewhere, but thats when you let your guard down is when it transfers. The good news is we have been messaging this. 90 of the people in maryland, a recent survey a couple days ago, said theyre not traveling this thanksgiving, which is a dramatic change, and many people, at least anecdotally, are saying to me they are following the advice and theyre having their immediate families and not larger gatherings. I think thats a good think because were in the worse part of this crisis. What do you think about President Trump possibly running for president again in 2024 . You know, i think a lot can happen over four years, jake. And theres a lot of speculation now, but just look at whats happened in the past year and how much things have changed. Im not sure that President Trump, regardless of what hes saying this week or in a couple weeks about what hes going to do in 2024, we have a lot a lot is going to happen between now and then and we have to wait and see. Governor larry hogan, happy thanksgiving to you, sir. Hope you have a good holiday. 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Do you share that confidence, and just how worried should americans be by what they see the president doing . Well, i think biden will be sworn in. I think the real question now is how much damage trump can do before that happens. I mean, right now, i think trump is throwing rocks through windows. I think hes the political equivalent of a street rioter. I think hes given up on the legal issues. This is not a matter of litigation and law. Hes lost all, i think, of 2 but 34 cases that have been brought around the country. I think what hes trying to do now is sow enough confusion that he can break through whats called the Safe Harbor Provision in the Electoral College process. I think hes playing for as much time as he can, hoping that something will happen. But i think this is now this is not a legal exercise anymore, as we saw on friday when the michigan legislators were called to the oval office. This is now an exercise of raw political power. As a former National Security official, you have seen Something Like this situation in other countries. A defeated leader doing everything he can to avoid giving up power. Former Deputy Director of National Intelligence sue gordon told npr if we saw this happening somewhere else, quote, we would say democracy is teetering on the edge, unquote. Is this essentially a nonviolent attempted coup . I think that gives trump too much credit. I think hes just playing for time in hopes that something will emerge that allows him either to have a good reason why hes lost or in his mind, maybe still to win. But i think thats simply emphasizing the need for senior Republican Leaders to join those who have begun to come out and say trumps behavior is inexcusable. Look, the Republican Party is not going to be saved by hiding in a spider hole. We need all of our leaders to come out and say the election is over. Were not talking about an abstract right to use for trump to use his legal remedies. We have passed that. Were three weeks after the election. He doesnt have any evidence. He doesnt have any legal theories. Look, for those who are worried about trumps reaction, theres strength in numbers. The more who come out and say he doesnt represent us, he is not following a republican game plan here, the safer they will be. And youre right. Theres no evidence, in fact, its insane the stuff that were hearing. The conspiracy theories from Rudy Giuliani and sydney powell, the nation was treated to yet another spectacle this week by giuliani making wild claims, baseless accusations, lying. Now, you once famously described giuliani in the context of ukraine, and that scandal you described him as a, quote, hand grenade whos going to blow everybody up. Is that whats happening right now . I think theyre saying it as much. Last night, sydney powell said she was going to bring yet another case in georgia, and she said thats the first state were going to blow up. Its going to be biblical. You know, weve got two Senate Election runoffs in georgia. Id really rather not be blowing the state up for the sake of donald trump. I would rather not have the georgia Republican Party at each others throats, calling for each others resignations. Id rather put trump in the Rearview Mirror and concentrate on what we need to do to win those runoffs going forward. This is not a lecture on the virtues of being virtuous. Forget that. This is cold, hard political reality. Trump is looking out for donald trump. And the Republican Party has got to look out for the country and for the party at the same time, not donald trump. Do you think there are republicans out there, people who might be inclined to vote republican in the georgia election, or even people who want there to be a check on joe biden and the democrats who are watching this spectacle and thinking, god, the Republican Party with the exception of job bolton and pat toomey and mitt romney, theyre a bunch of cowards, i dont want any part of that . Well, i dont think we are a bunch of cowards, but i do think its a character test, which is why people have to speak up. The longer trump rambles through our electoral system, causing damage without republican opposition, the more the democrats are going to say that it is a Republican Party characteristic, and that you cant trust them with the instruments of government. I think if we have people dont have to say what trump is doing is outrageous. Just say its wrong. Ill be satisfied with that. But until people hear that, i think they will continue to be deterred from coming back to the Republican Party. I think we can hold the trump voters by explaining to them that actually, you can lose an election fair and square, even though it hurts. Tell the truth to people. Thats what convinces them of your integrity. You said the Republican Party, quote, needs a long internal conversation about the posttrump era, unquote. Looking ahead, what do you see as the future of the Republican Party after trump is gone . Is it possible for the party to return to its fiscally and socially and conservative roots in terms of foreign policy, et cetera, or is trumpism part of the Republican Party from now on . Look, there is no trumpism. The man does not have a philosophy. And people can try and draw lines between the dots of his decisions. They will fail. I do think he has brought people into the party, disaffected with the democrats, workingclass people, bluecollar workers. I think thats great. The more the better, but i think i want a party like ronald reagans. Optimistic, forward looking. Trying to unite the country around conservative values. I dont think thats going to be hard to do. I think its very important for everybody to understand that at noon on the 20th of january, donald trump is no longer president. The dynamic changes enormously. Im not saying hes going to disappear. Thats unfortunately not going to happen, but its not the same as him being able, as he did on friday, to haul people into the oval and put pressure on them. Thats all going to be gone. You can say what you think without worrying about a Trump Twitter rant that will just be a bunch of damp squibs by that point. And thats what people need to understand. Far better to start that process now than to wait for him to cause more damage. All right. Former ambassador, former National Security adviser john bolton, author of the room where it happened thank you so much for your time today. We appreciate it, sir. Happy thanksgiving. Unhinged. A frankensteins monster. Judges and others in the legal world are running out of pejoratives to describe the legal efforts of outgoing President Trump and has allies who have as of this morning lost or withdrawn at least 30 cases in their efforts to overturn the results of a free and fair election. We just heard last night a resounding dismissal with prejudice of a trump lawsuit. It came from judge Matthew Brand of the u. S. District court for the middle district of pennsylvania who a few days ago asked the president s attorney, Rudy Giuliani, this simple question. At bottom, asking this court to invalidate more than 6. 8 million votes, which we just heard about from counsel. Thereby disenfranchising every single voter of the commonwealth. Can you tell me how this result could possibly be justified . That is in a nutshell the trump case. Throw out millions of legal votes so as to overturn the will of the voters and undermine democracy. Noted judge brand just a few hours ago, quote, one might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption. That has not happened. Unquote. So what did trump offer instead . Quote, strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unquote. And thats frankly the nice version. The trump teams argument to the public that millions of votes were stolen through Election Software is quite literally insane. It is the upside down. Wild invocations of hugo chavez and george soros. No evidence, no proof, when you look for some of the proof they offer, well, in this affidavit about the alleged fraud in michigan, an alleged expert claims suspicious activities in michigan. But he mistakenly provided data from minnesota. Its a joke. And it is being treated as such by judges across the nation. Though to be clear, theyre not laughing. A state court judge in arizona dismissed the lawsuit by the arizona Republican Party there with prejudice. Inviting the secretary of state of arizona to apply to have her legal fees paid for. On friday, the conservative republican georgia secretary of state certified the Election Results in that state. Awarding president elect biden those electoral votes. And the conservative republican georgia governor signed the certification. State Election Officials and judges throughout the country are serving as protectors of our democracy. At a time when frankly Republican Leaders in washington, d. C. Are failing miserably at the job. As are Administration Officials who have proven willing to degrade themselves to serve the president s brittle spirit instead of the constitution. And the American People. Which brings me to emily murphy, the administrator of the General Services administration who has so far refused to ascertain that president elect biden won, thus delaying the transition process. Her actions could very well hamper the biden teams ability to deal with the pandemic when they take over. It is a matter of life and death. Tomorrow, we expect pennsylvania and michigan will certify their Election Results. If you focus only on the states where the trump team has been filing legal challenges and contesting the results, that means tomorrow, joe biden will again definitely and officially secure enough electoral votes to be president. According to the state certification process this time. Georgia was friday, michigan and pennsylvania tomorrow. Thats it. Thats the ball game. 270 electoral votes. Biden will not even need nevada or arizona or wisconsin. Emily murphys legacy will be written in stone tomorrow in all likelihood. What will that legacy be . 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