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Brown weighs in. And new revelations. The drip, drip, drip of the Mueller Probe continues with new allegations about roger stones ties to wikileaks as a leading senator has his committee has still found no proof of collusion. The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee adam schiff responds. Hello, im dana bash in for jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is facing a constitutional showdown. President trump is at his golf resort in florida this weekend after declaring a National Emergency on friday in order to secure funding for a wall along the southern border. Its intended to bypass congress and allow the president to redirect billions of federal dollars toward the wall. The move is facing challenges in the courts and theyre vowing to stop the president legislatively. Some republicans are also criticizing the tactic. Senator marco rubio said no crisis justifies violating the constitution. And just like he did in 2016, President Trump is making the wall a central part of his 2020 reelection campaign. He held a rally in el paso, texas, and displayed signs reading finish at wall even though no new wall has been built. Democrats for their part are on the campaign trail pushing back on the National Emergency declaration calling it manufactured and inappropriate. And as President Trump hones his 2020 strategy, some in the Democratic Party are looking to a candidate who hasnt decided yet whether to run and that candidate potential candidate is democratic senator sherrod brown, a longtime progressive and proud populist. And he joins me now on his home state of ohio. Good morning, senator. Thank you for joining me. Good to be back. Lets start with the president s National Emergency declaration. You said it seems like hes trying to ignore the constitution, but you defended president obama for taking executive actions on immigration when congress wouldnt act. Why is it okay for president obama and not President Trump . Well, this is the first kind of emergency weve seen like this that a president has done this. He couldnt get the mexicans to build the wall. Couldnt get congress to vote the money in. This is the, in fact, the first Emergency Declaration like this in with that kind of construct where he got turned down by congress and then went ahead and did it. Thats why you see so many republicans saying dont do this. Republicans are afraid hes going to take the money from somewhere else in something they care about but fundamentally, they think its a president who failed who hates to lose who is acting childish and is is violating the constitution. Republican after republican is telling us that privately we will have a vote on this likely in the next two or three weeks. See if those republicans show the backbone that they generally havent shown standing up to this president in the past. But this is more serious because its a constitutional question. So i take them at their word that theyll stand up to him. Senator, in a series of tweets friday you said several other topics were actually National Emergencies like gun violence. Republicans have shown no willingness to pursue new gun control legislation so if you were president , would you declare a National Emergency on gun violence . No, i dont think you think as a potential president , i dont think any candidate or sitting president should think, well, these are the big problems. Im going to go after them in the National Emergency. When you look at gun violence, when you look at opioids, when you look at infrastructure, how weve failed this government has failed to address those issues, you need president ial leadership to do that. Look back 50 years when congress and the white house in our country realize that tobacco was a Huge Public Health threat. All of the federal government with all kinds of local community people, governments, businesses, labor unions, all pulled together. Weve cut the rate of smoking in half and cut it by even more than that among young people. So you need a president thats going to do that on opioids. Call on a national whether its call an emergency or not, get people engaged that way. Not sign a resolution like this and then go out and make speeches like this president is doing without really dressing real emergencies because this isnt the emergency that gun violence is and infrastructure is and opioids is. One more specific question on the border wall. Former texas congressman beto orourke says he supports taking the border wall, the border fencing in and around el paso where hes from down because he said it hasnt made the country safer. Do you think the existing walls and fencing should come down . I dont live in el paso, and i take the congressman there at his word but you are a United States senator who does these i understand that. But i dont think you look at the border wall in a 12mile area. I take a back seat to nobody in Border Security and its clear weve learned over time that we have the technology, helicopters, Border Agents to make our country safe and to keep the keep illegal crossings at a minimum without building a long wall. Thats the decision that should be made in the whole context. You dont say this congressman says take it down here. This congressman says build it up there. You want to look more broadly than that. Senator, lets talk about the policy debates going on within the Democratic Party right now. Im going to start with health care. You just introduced a bill this past week that would allow americans over 50 years old to buy into medicare. But more than 20 Million People are uninsured under the age of 50. So a lot of your colleagues were supporting medicare for all, a plan that would cover everyone. Why arent you . I support universal coverage and have since i paid my own Health Insurance when i first came to congress, promised to do that, paid it for years. Why doesnt this plan cover everybody . No, i understand that. Im just giving you a little background for what my background in this. But i want to help people now. I want to expand medicare to 50. We did that ten years ago. Fell one vote short when senator lieberman changed his vote. Our bill now is to bring medicare, a voluntary buyin at 50. I want to help people now if we get enough people, well see a lot of people get in on that plan. 58yearolds and 62yearolds that have lauost their insuranc lost their jobs, thaul see the success of that and that will end up continuing to broaden and expand coverage for so many americans. What would your plan be in the short term to cover people under 50 . First of all, you go to congress and you fix the problems with the Affordable Care act. Stop the attacks that president obama has made with the navigators. Hes taken people hes basically fired people that help people get on insurance that could get subsidized insurance and be in the exchanges that could get to medicaid. Government needs all in in helping people get on medicaid. I think again, i go back and i want to help people now and helping people now is building on the Affordable Care act. Not repealing obamacare, which is what they suggest. Its making sure we fix the Consumer Protections for preexisting conditions. Its all of those things. That will mean a lot more people almost immediately can get insurance and do you not think that medicare for all is practical . I think medicare for all will take a while. Its difficult. And its selling to people who now have insurance, that would have to have their insurance plans canceled. And move into a government plan. I think thats difficult. I want to help people now. Thats why you do medicare at 50. I want to build on the obamacare, not repeal it with a whole new plan. One more health care question. Do you believe theres a place for private Health Insurance . Yeah. I just said that. I said that in so many words that you build on the Affordable Care act. You dont wipe it off. Wipe it away and then come up with something new that will take time and will cause people angst and anguish to move to a different plan. Give people the options now. Fix the affordablecarect. Do the consumer strengthen Consumer Protections on the when Insurance Companies cancel their plans, preexisting conditions. Senator, lets move on to jobs. Theres a really big divide in your party over amazon. They backed out of plans to build a Second Headquarters in new york city. Amazon had promised 25,000 new jobs. You spent so much of your time talking about the dignity of work. Do progressives in new york who lobbied against amazon make a mistake . No, i dont think this is a big division in the party. I think theres local communities that resent giving huge tax breaks to billionaires as those of us in Congress Fight against giving big tax breaks to billionaires. Whether you look at foxconn in wisconsin or amazon in various places. What we need to do is look at it more broadly. My Patriot Corporation act is simply you throw out the trump tax bill, the mostly giveaway to the richest people in this country and huge corporations. 70 of the benefits went to the top 1 . You then implement the patriot my patriot implementation act says if you play by the rules you do your production in the United States, you get a lower tax rate. If you are one of those companies, big, big companies, executives making millions but you pay a lot of your workers 10 and 12 and 15 an hour and they are eligible for food stamps and eligible for medicaid and section 8 housing, you levy on them a corporate fee. They reimburse taxpayers for money we spend subsidizing their employees. We wont see these companies coming into communities and just asking demanding huge tax breaks in order to locate there. So you just talked about your Corporate Tax plan. I want to ask you about another policy proposal that you say would help working families. It would double the earned income tax credit, expand the child tax credit. How are you going to pay for that . You pay for it by as i said earlier, thats part of the corporate freeloader fee. In our plan that you just mentioned that will but would that cover it . Oh, yeah, you pay for it by you wipe off the books the trump tax bill that blew a trillion and a half dollar hole in the budget. Instead of giving those tax breaks to the wealthiest people in this country you focus those tax breaks on corporations that, shall we say, are patriotic, do their production here. You have revenue coming in from the patriot free loader fee and from the corporate free loader fee and then the money then youll have money available for middle income 20, 30, 40, 50, 60,000 how do you feel about the marginal tax rate on the super rich. Should that be increased . There will be a lot of individual questions on when a senator Campaign Offers a tax plan or congresswoman or congressman does the same. I am i want to build into im not going to answer each one individually. You think you can do your plan without raising the marginal tax rate for the super rich . I guess thats my question. Can you do it just with no, i think well, i answered that earlier by saying eliminate the trump tax bill. The trump tax law lets go from there. I, of course, support a graduated income tax. I always have. I from my votes against the iraq war 20 years ago to my support for marriage equality, ive always been a progressive and im consistent on tax policy. I just dont want to pick this pick this one off the menu and that one off the menu and say no to this and yes to that. Fundamentally its aimed toward middle class benefits having the wealthy pay their fair share, getting corporations to act responsibly for communities rather than rigging the system so that they dont play off community against community. And just to worker against worker. It sounds like you are saying taxes should go up for the wealthy and people who have of course. The wealthy have had huge tax breaks over the years. The trump tax plan, 70 went to the health westwealthiest 1 . Thats all part of a plan to make corporations operate in the to align corporations incentives with whats good for communities. We havent done that. Weve aligned corporations incentives have been whats good. We have seen wages, productivity go up. Weve seen corporate profits go up. Weve seen Corporate Executive compensation explode but wages have been flat. Partly because of a tax system. Partly because of a trade policy that sells out American Workers and fundamentally sells out you travelled to two of the four early voting states. Have you learned anything that would keep you out of the race . No, i havent ive learned a lot of things about communities. Ive been to iowa, new hampshire, and were going to nevada and South Carolina in the next couple of weeks. Connie and i go together. We will have a time table in the next couple three weeks to make a decision. Are the odds still 50 50 as youve said before . Probably more or less. Higher . I dont know. 50 50. 51 49. All right, senator. Thank you so much for joining me this morning. I appreciate it. And as the Mueller Investigation appears to be nearing an end, House Democrats say their probe is only just beginning. Will they accept the special counsels results . 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As prosecutors revealed for the first time that they uncovered direct communications between roger stone and wikileaks, an allegation that raises more questions about how involved the former trump associate was in getting information about hacked russian emails. Joining me is the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee congressman adam schiff of california. There are so many questions to get to about the russia investigation but first, i want to ask you about the president s decision to declare a National Emergency on the border. You called the decision, quote, plainly unconstitutional, but the law does give the president broad discretion on when to invoke the statutes. And congress has never really defined what a National Emergency is. Why is it unconstitutional . Because this is the first time a president has tried to declare an emergency when congress explicitly rejected funding for the particular project that the president is advocating. And in saying just the other day that he didnt really need to do this. He just wanted to do it because it would help things go faster. Hes pretty much daring the court to strike this down. So its hard to imagine a poorer case but ill say this. Its going to be a real test for my gop colleagues in congress in their devotion to the institution if we give away, r surrender the power of the purse, our most important power. There will be little check and no balance left. It will not be a separation of powers anymore. Just a separation of parties. So this will be a moment of truth for my gop colleagues. And you are referring to what the house is likely to do and later the senate which is a joint resolution to terminate the president s National Emergency. But let me ask you about potentially going a step further because that would be hard to get a vetoproof majority on in both chambers. Do you think that congress should change the law so that the president can no longer declare a National Emergency without the support of congress . Well, there are reasons why a president should have an ability to declare an emergency. That is under a real emergency. Thats plainly not the case here, and the risk the president takes, the risk to future presidencies, is that we limit the president s power to act when it really is necessary, when it is not practical to bring the congress into session on a moments notice. But this president doesnt care about future president s. He only cares about himself. And in this case, he only cares about placating his conservative critics. Lets talk about the Mueller Investigation. We learned on friday the special counsel obtained evidence of roger stones direct communication with wikileaks which he had said before didnt exist and we also know that stone was coordinating with the senior Trump Campaign official and those emails were hacked by the russians. So what does that tell you . It tells me that as we have seen in other cases that the special counsel has brought the full story is not in the indictment. That it is very possible that the best evidence is yet to come. That, in fact, here there were search warrants executed on multiple accounts of these Russian Hackers that Reveal Communications between roger stone and wikileaks. And essentially directly with the gru and roger stone because the gru is act with the persona guccifer 2. The substance of those communications can be very telling. It may go to what roger stone was trying to find out. It may go to whether he was communicating that information to people back in the white house. It could be very revealing and well just have to wait to find out. This week the chair, your counterpart in the senate, the republican chair of the Intelligence Committee richard burr said that his committee has found nothing to suggest collusion between the Trump Campaign and russia. You said, quote, thats not our view in the house. But burr hasnt been a rabid partisan on this. Until the last couple of weeks, hes been working closely with the democrats. Why do you think hes wrong . Its not just that i think hes wrong. Mark warner, the vice chair of the Intel Committee in the senate also disagrees with that assessment. You can see evidence in plain sight on the issue of collusion pretty compelling evidence. Now theres a difference between seeing evidence of collusion and being able to prove a criminal conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt. But chairman burr must have a different word for it because when you look, for example, at the emails to set up the meeting in trump tower, it was offered to the Trump Campaign to the president s own son dirt on Hillary Clinton as part of what was described as the russian governments effort to help donald trump in the campaign. And the response from the campaign was, we would love to have the help. Now thats an offer of help. Thats an acceptance of help. Theres an overt act in the trump tower in furtherance of that. And, of course, thats not even contemplating the discussions with George Papadopoulos or the information about the efforts that mike flynn made to work with the Russian Ambassador secretly to undermine sanctions and then lie about that. All of this is evidence of collusion. And you either have to look the other way to say it isnt or you have to have a different word for it because it is a corrupt dealing with a foreign adversary during a campaign. But again it will be up to mueller to determine whether that amounts to criminal conspiracy. Well, on that note, we expect at some point maybe soon, maybe not, the findings of the Mueller Investigation to finally be completed. If he finds that there was no direct collusion between the Trump Campaign and russia, will you accept that . Were going to have to do our own investigation, and we are. Well certainly be very interested to learn what bob mueller finds. We may have to fight to get that information. Bill barr has not been willing to commit to provide that report either to the congress or to the American People. Were going to need to see it. The American People need to see it. We may also need to see the evidence behind that report. There may be, for example, evidence of collusion or conspiracy that is clear and convincing. But not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. The American People are entitled to know if there is evidence of a conspiracy between either the president or the president s campaign and a foreign adversary. At the end of the day, the most important thing for the American People to know is whether the president is somehow compromised, whether theres a leverage the russians could use over the president and if the russians are in a position to expose wrongdoing by the president or his campaign. Thats compromising. You are talking about transparency, but i guess the question is, in terms of what the substance of his findings are, robert mueller, will you, given the fact he has had such an extensive investigation, will you accept the findings separate from the investigation that you are doing . You know, i will certainly accept them in this way, dana. I have great confidence in the special counsel. And if the special counsel represents that he has investigated and not been interfered with and not been able to make a criminal case, then i will believe that he is operating in good faith. Federal prosecutors are still considering whether to bring charges against former fbi Deputy Director andrew mccabe. After he allegedly lied to investigators about authorizing leaks to the media. Weve seen at least five Trump Associates indicted for just that lying to investigators. Do you think mccabe should be prosecuted for doing the same thing . Well, the Justice Department received a referral from the inspector general. I think they need to study that and the evidence and make an objective determination about it. I think he should be held to the same standard as anyone else that the Justice Department has looked at in this investigation or any other. A little bit of 2020 politics before i let you go. The governor of your staircte, gavin newsom, endorsed Kamala Harris for 2020. He joined four of your fellow california representatives in congress. So what about you . Are you going to endorse senator harris for president . I havent made any decisions in the president ial race yet. Its still very early. But i have to say, ive been very impressed with Kamala Harris as a senator and with her as a candidate for president in a rare bout of truthfulness by President Trump, he acknowledged what a superb rollout shes had. And i think we can already compare her favorably with some of the other candidates this early. But im not ready to make a decision. Okay. California representative and chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, adam schiff, thank you for joining us this morning. Thank you. The president s power play is forcing some republican lawmakers to make a tough choice. Support their principles or their president. Ill ask a prominent trump supporter what he thinks, next. With vine ripened tomatoes, signature cheddar, simmered to perfection. 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I think he could have done in fact, most of the money if you look at his spending, he could have spent that without declaring a National Emergency. I dont think it was the right thing to gop he gave the reason. It makes it easier to deploy the money. Declaring this National Emergency gives him the authority to rearrange the money but bypass some things to get the wall built. I think to be consistent, having had criticized president obama for things far worse than what this president is doing, i think its consistent for me to have voted no. The real reason he did it, the real reason, theres a National Emergency. But it doesnt have to do with whats going on at the border. He saw what was going on in congress. He thought this weekend, if they got if he signed a bill that didnt fund the wall, that wed all be talking about what a loser he is that he had failed in the budget negotiations. So he has to do something to change the subject. So he declared a fake crisis, a fake emergency at the border. And then what happens is that he puts it all on republicans to try to remedy the problem. And what are the republicans going to do . I appreciate the fact you say of you saying youd not vote for it. I think there were a few other republicans who said that. But Mitch Mcconnell who has come out so strongly in favor of congressional authority, the National Emergency thats going on is that the president is usurping the constitution and taking away the power of congress for a fake emergency. And they are allowing him to do it. If they allow this to go forward, he has pants them and they are saying, hit me again. That simply is not true. He has the authority. Not for a fake emergency, rick. Its a fake emergency. Look at the other, quote, emergencies. Sierra leone. Those are National Crises that are happening in those countries. They were not National Emergencies. This is fake. He has every right to do what hes doing, i just dont agree were not going to settle here whether or not he has the right. Its going to go into the courts. And hes right about that. Its probably going to be struck down. What will happen in the Supreme Court will be interesting. It will be interesting to see whether conservatives on that court, you know, look at the constitution and say article 1 says that congress has the right to appropriate money and hes been turned down on this. He did it because he couldnt get his way. Hes not the great negotiator that everybody said he was. And, frankly, that whole press conference he had, i think the real crisis here is the president s state of mind. That was the most bizarre performance i have ever seen in my 40some years of politics in washington, d. C. Never have i seen anything like that. You are the sitting member of congress at this table. What do you think you guys are going to do . Theres going to be a twopronged response. A resolution of disapproval and a majority both in the house, clearly, as well as in the senate. Theres also going to be litigation filed. There will be litigation filed by members of congress. Already litigation by property owners. State government, local government. This is going to be tied up in the courts. But, look, i agree. The crisis is in the oval office. And not on the border. The president is declaring a National Emergency as he even stated in his announcement yesterday or the day before because of 2020 and what he anticipates to be a tough reelection. Just like he sent active duty troops to the border before the 2018 midterms. He fabricates a crisis, calls it a National Emergency for political purposes. I want to play some sound that our cnns k file found from the chief of staff, mick mulvaney, former member of the house articulating concern to the then president declaring a National State of emergency. An imperial presidency is dangerous for everyone and i think this is the premier issue right now in washington, d. C. I dont think were going to get anything across the president s desk that will pass a veto, but i think we should put it on his desk and let him know the elected officials of congress, republican and democrat alike, object to him going around congress. But the big difference here is what the president did on daca, president obama, and what he did on the obamacare. Both were counter to what the congress wanted, just like what this president is doing. But he had absolutely no authority to do so, none. In this case, Congress Passed a law called the National Emergencies act which gives the president Broad Authority to do it. This is not a constitutional issue. This is unlike what obama did. Obama was blatant and unconstitutional. Heres the problem. No democrat fought obama. Everyone said oh, hes doing what we want so were all for it. And thats the dishonesty that were seeing out of the Democratic Party. It was clear there was no authority whatsoever to do it. They didnt oppose it. Im sorry, can we just i dont think he should we dont have the facts here. On daca, the president had the authority to not deport children who had arrived here. That was what but he went beyond that. He went beyond that and gave work permits. I hate to do this. We have to take a break. Dont worry, youre not going anywhere. A decision by amazon is dividing the Democratic Party. Well talk about that and this, next. To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best to make you everybody else. Means to fight the hardest battle, which any human being can fight and never stop. Does this sound dismal . It isnt. Its the most wonderful life on earth. Its the most wonderful life on earth. Who transition out of the u. S. Formilitary every year. Ers. 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Lets continue our conversation about the president s National Emergency declaration which, by the way, was continuing in a very lively way during the break. I just want to respond to ricks point about this hypocrisy. Number one, obama didnt use a National Emergency, a fake National Emergency to take money no authority. To take money that congress had previously appropriated for other purposes to fund daca or dapa because they didnt require that funding. Obamacare didnt. And the executive order was temporary. It was not a longterm this is a permanent wall to fund a fake emergency that everybody two other points on this also with the daca and dream act, congress refused to act. The house wouldnt take it up. I think important is that the American People overwhelmingly supported a fix for daca, just as today americans overwhelmingly reject the idea of a wall and a National Emergency to build the wall. So there are plenty of distinctions and differences between daca and the wall. Of course, youre ignoring the Affordable Care act where he took money that was not appropriated, specifically under that. Congress said, no, were not giving you that. He took it from somewhere else and spent it to subsidize Insurance Companies. Thats a reality. He had no authority. The court struck him down and you all applauded him doing it. I want to talk about what a prominent democrat who ran in texas and lost, your former colleague beto orourke, said about the wall. He said basically that he believes that the wall should be taken down in his hometown of el paso, texas. What do you think . I dont think we should be removing physical barriers. Congress appropriated 1. 375 billion this go around. 1. 3 billion before. There are physical barriers that impede pedestrian movement. We focused on funding those barriers that resemble the designs currently deployed. So thats what we ought to do. No nation in the world that doesnt protect its borders. I reject the idea that we should take down walls. Is that going to hurt him . I dont know. I dont know if it is or not. I totally agree with you. As democrats have been saying, some portions need physical barriers. Some need technological barriers. So youd not take down no. This is playing right into President Trumps hands. Really, this, you know, abolish i. C. E. , tear down the wall. We do need walls in some places. We dont need it for 2,000 miles and we dont need it to be a concrete barrier but having a wall in california, having a wall in texas where there are ports of entries and where you want to protect the area around it, it did, in fact, diminish the flow of people illegally into the United States when those sections of the wall were built. Lets talk about amazon pulling out of new york city because the progressives elected and otherwise in new york city, lobbied against it. Bill de blasio defended the deal in an oped. The deal struck with amazon was a solid foundation. The retail giants expansion in new york encountered opposition because of growing frustration with corporate america. The lesson here is corporations cant ignore rising anger over economic inequality anymore. Would you have rejected those jobs . Oh, no. I would have never rejected a single job. All kinds of jobs for all kinds of people. I would have been thrilled to get amazon. I understand why bill de blasio wanted them and why cuomo really pushed for it. And why virginia is going to benefit enormously as a result of this. Its a shame that they, you know, that they didnt but i do think the point that de blasio is making about how a lot of these Technology Platforms have exacerbated income inequality and its hard to look away from the fact jeff bezos is the richest man in the entire world. And amazon is a hugely successful corporation that, obviously, didnt need the tax breaks that were going to be spent. When that money could have been spent it would have been great if amazon agreed to fix the subway. Part of it. What about the power within your party . We have plenty of progressives in maryland, and we were vying for amazon to come to maryland. Glad theyre coming to northern virginia. Well benefit. When you talk about the Public Private partnership to attract a Large Corporation and plenty of jobs, i think you focus less on the corporate subsidies and the tax incentives and focus on the infrastructure youll bring to that community to support. Its not just roads and rail but workforce development. Its affordable housing. And when you have that kind of partnership and you pitch that to the local community, youll get the kind of support you need to bring 25,000 jobs. Well gladly take them in maryland. Instead of the big tax breaks. How about just lowering your tax rates in states like new york and then youll attract more businesses as states with lower tax rates do. You know what amazon paid in taxes last year . Zero in federal taxes. Zero. Largely because of the tax breaks the federal government because they lost money for a long period of time. The bottom line is bill de blasio is duplicitous in this oped. He was one of the reasons they didnt come because of his comments hostile to amazon about bringing unions in and all that sort of stuff. So he can say that he he was very hostile. And the reality is that you are now seeing america look at what socialism looks like. Oh, come on. Its hostile to the private sector. Plays class warfare no matter how beneficial. Its not going to be beneficial. Well have to continue this one in the green room. Maybe you can do live tweeting. Thank you so much. What a great discussion. There are now more women than ever in congress and on the president ial campaign trail. And they are bringing a new approach to politics as usual. Stay with us. This is a very difficult job. Failure is not an option. A. 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