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The white house lawyer effectively a cooperating witness in the investigation of President Trump. This as the president continues to his attack on former cia director john brennen after the president s disdain for the russia investigation drove him to take away brennens security clearance. Tweeting saturday, quote, brennen has become nothing less than a loudmouthed partisan political hack who cannot be trusted with the secrets of our country. Putting more on notice they might be next. Unprecedented moves that drew a stern rebuke from dozens of intelligence officials who have served both democratic and republican president s. Here with me to talk about this all former department of Homeland Security and counselor terrorism advisor to president obama, lisa monaco, former director of National IntelligenceJames Clapper and general michael hayden, former cia director. More than a century of combined intelligence experience sitting at this table right now. I hope youre not offended by that, more than a century. But lisa, i want to start with you. I do want to ask as someone who worked at the justice department, under bob mule squr at the white house, what do you make of mcgahn talking to the president , talking to special counsel, according to the New York Times one of the concerns is President Trump was setting him up to be a john dean like patsy. What do you make of it . Look, that really was a remarkable report we saw in the times this morning. I was surprised people would be surprised don mac began would be a witness and talk to bob mueller. As a former Government Employee he doesnt have a whole lot of choice of sitting and talking to bob mueller and his team. What was remarkable about that report is just how expensive the discussions seemed to be and how little limits were placed on the questions he asked and answered. And the other thing i think was very remarkable was how little the president seems to understand that the white House Counsel is the lawyer for the office of the presidency, the institution of the presidency not his personal lawyer. And then finally as a former prosecutor i think hes going to be a very, very valuable witness. If youre an investigator, youre a prosecutor, you want somebody whos been in the room when the key discussions happened and thats don mcgahn. Its very interesting. General hayden i want to ask you about a new attack from the president this morning on bob mueller. Quote, were now in a period that makes Joseph Mccarthy look like a baby, rigged witch hunt. To compare bob mueller to Joseph Mccarthy. Joe mccarthy was a demagogue, and ive got to add that mccarthys lawyer, larry cohn, became Donald Trumps personal lawyer and mentor for decades. I mean the irony here, just amazing. All of what you said is factually accurate. I want to talk about the focus on john brennen. After President Trumps press conference with Vladimir Putin in helsinki brennen unleashed some pretty remarkable criticisms against the president saying it was quote, nothing short of treasonous. Take a listen how brennen explained that comment just a couple days ago. And i did say it rises to and exceeds the level of high crimes and misdemeanors and theres nothing sort of treasonous. I didnt mean he committed treason, but it was a term i used nothing short of treasonous. But you didnt mean he committed treason, though . I said it was nothing short of treasonous, yeah. Well get into the president s term in a second, but do you think john brennens hyperbole is an issue here, the reason why were having this crisis . I think it is. I think john is sort of like a Freight Train and hes going to say whats on his mind. I think, though, that the common denominator among all of us that have been speaking up, though, is genuine concern about the jeopardy andthets to o threats institutions and values and we all express that in different ways. And i think this is what this is really about. But i think john and his rhetoric have become an issue in and of itself. What do you think . Look, i think john has said he sometimes gets but i think what he talked about is he was really commenting on how stunning it was to him as a decades long National Security veteran and intelligence official to see the president stand up in helsinki next to our main adversary, president putin, and not challenge him, not call him out, and the Intelligence Community under the Obama Administration and Trump Administration has said has happened and is in fact ongoing. So i think that was what john was responding to, yes, in very, very pointed fashion. Retired admiral William Mcraven who oversaw the raid that bin laden was killed wrote the Washington Post this morning, i would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well so i could add to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency. You have worst of all divided us as a nation. Would you be similarly honored to have President Trump revoke your security clearance . To be included in that group, sure. And frankly if his not revoking my clearance gave the impression that i somehow moved my commentary on a direction more acceptable to the white house, i would find that very disappointing and frankly unacceptable. Its really telling because theres two parts. He said take my clearance away so thats the local issue of brennen and his clearance, but the admiral went beyond that and made it a larger broader comment on why hes upset with the administration. And frankly, although, johns situation is a proximate cause for all of us signing letters and protesting, i think its kind of one additional straw thats breaking the camels back. Our complaint is not just about this. Its about the whole tone, tenor and behavior of the administration. Have you heard any of you from current National Security or intelligence officials, ones int Trump Administration whether political or nonpolitical appointees, expressing solidarity with what youre saying . You dont have to give their names obviously, but have you been given any attaboys or attagirls . Have you heard from anyone . Ive not heard personally from anyone currently in the administration. Have any of you . I have. I know theres a lot of angst at the working levels. Weve got to be careful. We cant go back to press the test because we dont want to make them vulnerable. I wrote a book a couple of months ago broadly addressing this topic and informally from those in government ive gotten the thumbs up there. In part he wrote, quote, mr. Trumps claims of no collusion with russia are in a word hogwash. The only question that remains is whether the collusion that took place constitutes criminal liable responsibility. Hes talking there about press reports, about meetings donald trump, jr. At trump tower, George Papadopoulos and others, but do you agree acollusion has been proven and its just a question of whether or not it rises to conspiracy . I think weve all spoken to this and you alluded to the trump tower meeting in june of 2016. I think frankly exhorting those russians to go out and find those emails and as reviewed in the stunning indictment that came out last month from bob mueller of 12 gru officers in which appears they complied with his quest that day after 24 hours. And in my book weve all written books i the for his cha director, et cetera, is that permanently broken do you think . If were back in our old agencies were trying to say to our work force we have nothing to do with what john brennen is says on tv and it gets harder each day as the Administration Takes actions. Thanks one and all for being here. I appreciate it. The white House Counsel takes 30 hours to talking to mueller and his team. Plus for over ten years. Its the 1 prescribed biologic by dermatologists. More than 250,000 patients have chosen humira to fight their psoriasis. And theyre not backing down. For most patients clearer skin is the proof. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems. Serious allergic reactions and new or worsening heart failure. Before treatment get tested for tb. 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You know, i would, jake. If we were to really step back for a minute i think most folks that be it in montana or elsewhere that are firearm owners want to keep themselves, their families safe. Its not unlike those folks who say all those that have been happening, what do they really want . Those same values, there are things we could do immediately anything from red flag laws to closing, to having the sort of universal background check to making sure were doing everything we can, some age restrictions or magazine restricts but lets begin with everybody wants to keep themselves and their families safe and lets begin with those where we can move things forward. Some in our party are calling to abolish i. C. E. More and more democrats are supporting medicare for all. And polling shows more democrats have a positive view of socialism than they do a capitalism. Do you have concerns your party is moving too far to the left . You know, and jake, i certainly dont want to demengs the question because i know you and others in the media are trying to figure out whats going on out there. But this us versus them mentality when im traveling around the country i really dont see it. I see unification after primaries. I see all democrats turn around and saying they need to make sure we need to have Affordable Health care at the same time republicans are trying to strip away medicaid and if anybody steps out of line from the perspective like senator mccain did and gets repeatedly taunted, they have to walk lock step in the ways that wont improve the lines of americans and theres often good competition of ideas that that really stands in contrast to anybody who steps out of leanto this current president on the republican side is worried not only for the reelection but, you know, continued taunts and tweets. You were in iowa thursday. Youre going to be in New Hampshire next week. Youre a twoterm governor of a state trump won by 20 points. Many democrats think this means you could compete in a red state as a president ial candidate. I understand you havent announced youre running for anything. But do you think if you did run you could beat President Trump . What i look at and those hypotheticals are a bit challenging, certainly. I was the only democrat i think in the country to get reelected statewide in a state where President Trump won. More than that ive actually been able to bring folks together from expanding medicaid to an earned income tax credit, record investments in education, trying to get money out at elections, which is something i was talking about in iowa. I think if anybody actually assumes we share the values of folks across this country, fights for those values and tries to bridge some of the divides, divides both in our country or political system that could be President Trump 2020. That would theoretically include you, i suppose . It would include all kinds of folks. Right now really what ive been doing is i have been listening, traveling the country quite a bit, listening probably more than weve been talking. For now thats as far as it goes. Thanks for joining us today. We appreciate. Great talking this morning, jake. A stunner in the russia investigation. A white house lawyer involved in some of the most int tit discussions with the president is reportedly talking a lot about mueller. Stay with us. This is not a screensaver. This is the destruction of a cancer cell by the bodys own immune system, thanks to medicine that didnt exist until now. And today can save your life. You shouldnt be rushed into booking a hotel. With expedias addon advantage, booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. Addon advantage. Only when you book with expedia. But allstate actually helps you drive safely. With drivewise. It lets you know when you go too fast. And brake too hard. 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Otherwise he wouldnt have encouraged 30 witnesses including mcgahn to testify. That was one of the president s attorneys, rudy giuliani, reacting to the the New York Times bombshell report detailing how White House Counsel Don Mcgahn has cooperated with Robert Muellers justice probe into potential obstruction of justice. Lets discuss. Senator santorum, let me start with you. What do you make of giulianis comments . Can you look at this report the New York Times and say it looks like theyre giving them full transparency and wrap it up . To allow your general counsel to have the special counsel to have unfettered access to your general counsel but the reality is theyve provided record numbers of documents, theyve let the general counsel for 30 hours be in front of the special counsel. To me this is good news story for the president. What do you make of it because also it said mcgahn and his attorneys were concerned President Trump might be laying the ground work to set hip him up as a patsy for obstruction of Justice Charges if there might be any. Absolutely. He didnt want to be thrown under the bus and he knows with trumps track regard hes willing to throw anyone under the bus. It spends every waking moment either tweeting, attacking the investigation and then sending giuliani out to do it on the air. So i think its hard to see that as transparent. Giuliani says mueller is in a panic mode but look at the president s tweet stream. This morning he calls john dean a rat, tells you he is totally worried mcgahn is going to flip on him. And john dean, by the way, was the hero of the nixon at least the ability to out the watergate problem. Just a bizarre contradiction. On the one hand hes defending, the president doesnt like to look hes being caught out of control of his white house. On the one hand hes saying no, no, no don mac began is loyal and acting on my orders but at the same time john dean was a rat. Just reminding people in case your head was going there. Of course he knew he was talking all this time he knew he was talking. Did he really have a choice . Of course he could have stopped it. He could have fired him, but don mcgahns client is the office of the presidency. Hes saying this is on my orders and according to the reporting don mcgahn is reporting yes i had full knowledge of this. The news is the story has apparently shifted halfway through, so the idea of allowing unfettered access to general counsel at the beginning probably isnt looking so great now. Thats a legitimate concern of a lawyer saying, you know, there may be areas of privilege, other areas we should have been concerned about, and in trumps fashion saying let it all out because i have nothing to be worried about, just shows i think his confidence theres nothing to worry about. Governor, the president has been tweeting quite a bit, this morning as he noted. He sent out a series of tweets including writing, quote, study the late Joseph Mccarthy because were now in a period with mueller and his gang that make Joseph Mccarthy look like a baby. Rigged witch hunt. What do you make of that . Seriousilousy as was said earlier mueller hadnt said word one since this began. Comparing him to Joseph Mccarthy when mueller is the total hero. But it is ironic that mccarthys lawyer was roy cohn and every few days trump is asking wheres my roy cohn, wlhos going to defend me . One wonders whos a mccarthy. Also a few days after he puts out his hit list he had a whole list of people he was going to take the security clearances from. Its also worse than ironic. Mccarthyism was bad because it was an undemocratic project trying to boot out differences in ideology. Trying to get to the bottom of whether russia hacked our elections and had help of people inside the white house. Investigating whats going on within doj and fbi with respect to Hillary Clinton and all these other things. Its his job to do a thorough investigation. Who says he isnt . And hes ignoring a huge how do you know . Well, theres certainly no evidence. Because its been looked at and passed over. How long does the special investigation into benghazi have to go . Really, youre going to bring that up again . Being a feed to the fbi of information from the steele dossier is not something that should be looked into . They are looking into it. Well, we dont have any evidence that the Mueller Investigation is looking into it. Its looking into the steele dossier and the crimes listed in that. Whats wrong with that . Thats exactly what the department should be doing. I agree that the department should be doing that but mueller doesnt seem to be looking that. If you want to have bipartisan support go after things that arent just trump. I have one more thing about this hit list okay, i saw you picking up a paper. But what i i think about this hit list thing, the thing im really concerned about is this list of revocations, of security clearance revocations. Such a democrat, thinking Social Security. I know. What if he ends up revoking the security clearances of the mueller team . Will that be his way of trying to shut them down . And there is going to be a bill in congress that would prevent that from happening. And the question will be will republicans step up to stop that from happening . Got to pay a couple of bills. All the names on the midterm ballots across the country is there really one name that matters . Mr. Trump . Well talk about that next. Managing blood sugar is not a marathon. Its a series of smart choices. And when you replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna made with carbsteady to help minimize blood sugar spikes you can really feel it. Glucerna. Everyday progress. 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Thank you for that plug, and i want to ask you steve bannon obviously hes trying to get back in President Trumps good graces. But it seems to me this might not be a bad strategy, convincing republican voters, hey, the democrats its all about impeachment and trump. Obviously democrats want it to be about trump, too, but although not necessarily about impeachment. It is a good story and one the president should pick up on. Steve bannon understands its turn out, and when Mcdaniel Romney of rnc gets up and says this loss wasnt that big a deal, the blue wave isnt coming, thats the opposite of the strategy that republicans should be taking. Steve bannon is right to install fear in the hearts and minds of republicans who would believe that democrats are out to get President Trump. Congresswoman, if the democrats take the house yes. Will democrats begin impeachment proceedings . I dont think so. But let me just tell you i think there are a lot of things on our agenda. The number one is health care. After that its wages and unemployment is low. And better wages that absolutely needs to happen because we know republicans have blocked every investigation. To think impeachment would be number one on our agenda i dont think thats the case. We have to deal with health care. Is bannons strategy the right one . Its absolutely the right one. And this is turn out election, and what youve seen in every election where republicans have either lost republican turn out was energized and democrat wasnt. Were talking about investigations 24 hours a day here and republicans are actually we are not having the type of hearings we should have what do you think about the strategy . First of all, trump will not adopt that strategy because hes worried the house will be lost and that will then look like hes responsible for it i. He doesnt want to do it up front, number one. Number two, cnn did a poll this week about the top nine issues that Americans Care about. Number one was health care. 81 of people said that health care was their top issue. Under the Trump Administration 4 Million People have lost their health care. Democrats want a run on that. Democrats want to run on immigration because 76 of americans hate what the president is doing to separate families. The number two issue was the economy. Yet wages have been flat or lost ground in the first two quarters of this before i think you flipped immigration and health care. I think it has been lost on democrats and republicans. You know its a news cycle thats been open. And what have republicans had to deal withturb omarosa. What have democrats had to deal with alexer cortez. These are the issues that have taken option. Democrats have been in districts, democrats have been out talking to voters, democrats have been registering voters. The point is when people like omarosa or alexer cortez have dominate. And un one of the things has do with instancy pelosi should continue to be a democratic speaker or not. Take a listen to just a few of the 60 House Democrats who said they would not support puloelos. I wont vote for pelosi because we need nee leadership in washington. Thats why i wont vote for nancy pelosi as leader. Will you vote for nancy pelosi . Probably not. Will you vote nancy pelosi . I will vote nancy pelosi. With all the races going on leader pelosi is the first one to say the most important thing you need to do is wip. People are working their districts. When we take over and im certainly optimistic that will happen and itll be a very large number. She has postponed the elections until december, the leadership elections. But to have the massive change, people are going to be trying to figure out how they go about becoming a new congress person, all of that. There have been lots of discussions about, you know, whether or not theres going to be leadership change. Im in my eight year and i will tell you those discussions are happened every single time were in this cycle. Heres the interesting thing, look at conor lamb. Conor lamb ran and won in my Congressional District saying he wasnt going to vote for nancy pelosi. Now he says im going to vote for whoever the democrats run. They can vote for all these ads, they come to washington, the whip gets cracked, people get in line. I am a nancy pelosi fan. I feel shes a strong woman, shes got the best speakers since ive been president since ive been president. Since ive been alive basically. I know i cant run for president. If its not nancy pelosi then the republicans will put up another boogeyman to be able to say oh, its not nancy pelosi its going to be this person. Thanks one and all we appreciate it. One of the most powerful catholics in this country named more than 100 times. Those who prefer heat. And those who just love meat. Oscar mayer deli fresh. 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Pennsylvania District Attorney disagrees, saying that Cardinal Wuerl is not telling the truth. Many of the statements in response to the grand jury report are directly contradicted by the churchs own documents and records. Among the claims that doesnt stand up to scrutiny. I think i did everything i possibly could. Everything . Two fathers of the Pittsburgh Diocese were two from a group of priests who the grand jury found, quote, manufactured child pornography and, quote, used whips in their sadism. Now, a spokesman for wue are l notes that zula had been removed from his ministry before wue arear wuerl came to pittsburgh. But in 1989, Cardinal Wuerl arranged a settlement including a hush agreement and worked to lessen zulas sentence with a statement that, the grand jury found, blamed the child victim. And the diocese helped to secure zulas release. Did you ever remove priests . That wasnt our process. It was the process with father george zurwiss. The diocese was, quote, aware of complaints against zurwiss since 1987. Additional complaints were received up to 1995, while wue ar wuerl was bishop of the diocese. Despite all this evidence, a spokesman for wuerl maintains he acted promptly until the case and removed zurwiss. If there were allegations, we dealt with them immediately. Immediately . Really . The predatory behavior of one priests dated back to the 1960s. He was shuffled from parish to parish all over the country. In 1991, wuerl approved moving him to las vegas even though they knew of his past. In 1996, wuerl refrained from sharing everything the church knew with the diocese of san diego. As bishop in pittsburgh, he disciplined some priests and fought a vatican order to reinstate some priests. He wrote to the vatican that parishioners had a right to know that there were claims against priests. 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