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Spike of russian agents posing as businessmen to enter the u. S. Why now and what are they up to . A top member of the House Intelligence Committee joins us, live. And first strike . Have some pretty severe things were thinking about. Trump puts North Koreans on notice as they launch fireworks of their own on the fourth of july. How far is trump willing to go to stop them . Plus the best political minds will be here with insights on what happens next. Hello, im dana bash in for jake tapper where the state of our union is deconstructed talks with the russians. News this morning of a previously undisclosed 2016 meeting with the trump team and a high profile russian national. This time, its donald trump jr. Who, according to the New York Times, set up a meeting with the russian lawyer at trump tower two weeks after his father won the republican nomination. The lawyer is best known for fighting a law president obama signed that blacklists russian human rights abusers. Putin retaliated by banning American Families from adopting russian children. Donald trump says the which was also attended by trumps soninlaw and adviser Jared Kushner and former Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort was about the adoption of russian children. We have learned from both our investigation and public reports that the participants in the meeting misrepresented who they were and who they worked for. The story comes as President Trump touched back down on american soil after his trip to the g20 summit in germany. Where he met face to face with the russian president for the first time. Lets talk to ambassador nikki haley. There were conflicting reports about what happened inside President Trumps muchanticipated meeting with president Vladimir Putin. Sergey lavrov said trump heard and accepts putins statements that russia did not meddle in the u. S. Election. Is that true . We got two very important leaders together and said okay, its time for them to meet. This was long time coming. What we know is that when President Trump meets with a leader, things do start to move. From my standpoint and a lot of the administration, it was important. What he did was bring up right away the election meddling and he did that for a reason. One, he wanted him to basically look him in the eye, let him know that, yes, we know you meddle in d in our elections. We know you did it and cut it out. I think president putin did exactly what we thought he would do, which is deny it. It is what it is. Theyre always going to have two different stories on this theyre going to have two different stances on this at the end of the day whats most important is for president putin to hear from President Trump, we know did you this we didnt like it. Dont do it again. I want to play what the president himself said about russia interference and casting doubt on the fact that they were really behind the election hack. Take a listen. Okay. I think it was russia, but i think it was probably other people and or countries, and i see nothing wrong with that statement. Nobody really knows. Nobody really knows for sure. Now, ambassador haley, that was a couple of days ago. Nobody really knows for sure. With statements like that, can you understand why the russians, at least they say that they took what they took from President Trumps private statements to Vladimir Putin . You know what i understand is that President Trump let him know, look, we know you did this. Cut it out. And president putin is never going to admit that they did it. And so they have to come back and defend themselves. This is russia trying to save face. And they can. Th they cant. They cant. Everybody knows theyre not just meddling in the United States elections but across multiple continents and in a way that theyre trying to cause chaos within the countries. Its not just going to be us saying this. I think youll hear other leaders come out and say cut it out. Were not going to put up with it. You said Everybody Knows that the russians meddled in the u. S. Election and that the president said so behind closed doors to Vladimir Putin. If thats the case, why wont the president say this in public . It would put a lot of these questions and, quite frankly, the fact that a lot of your fellow republicans are perplexed, it would put it all to rest. Why wont he do it . I think you can ask him. Thats one of the things. Let him say this. We heard a lot of people saying that about arl v, why didnt he say it . He didnt say it then because he wasnt changing policy. So, you heard this when he was in poland, give a fantastic speech and he said that he supported article v and he said he supported our nato allies. I think everybody is trying to nitpick what he says and what he doesnt. Talk is one thing. Actions are another. He confronted president putin. He made it the first thing that he talked about. I think we have to now see where it goes from here. Right. But, you know, as a chief diplomat, that talk is very important because it sends a signal. And i would love for reporters to be able to ask the president but hes not doing any press conferences. Lets move on to one thing that you mentioned, Cyber Security. Vladimir putin did say that the u. S. And russia agreed that the two countries would Work Together on a number of different issues, including Cyber Security. Congressman adam schiff argued that it, quote, adopts the fiction that the russians are a constructive partner on Cyber Security instead of the worst actor on the world stage. Does he have a point . I think that we have to talk about Cyber Security not just with russia, but with everyone. And, look, youre always going to see the democrats are repeatedly criticizing the president. Thats unfortunate. Republicans are going to criticize democrats. Thats unfortunate. But lets just look at the situation. You now have a russian who is in charge of counterterrorism in the united nations. That was a position that the secretary general gave russia. And you also see that from a cyber standpoint we need to get together with russia. We need to tell them what we think should happen, shouldnt happen and if we talk to them about it, hopefully, we can cut this out and get them to stop. It doesnt mean we ever take our eyes off the ball. It doesnt mean we ever trust russia. We cant trust russia and we wont ever trust russia. But you keep those that you dont trust closer so that you can always keep an eye on them and keep them in check. Thats what were trying to do with russia right now. Rudy giuliani is an adviser to the president on Cyber Security. He was asked in poland this week why the u. S. Hasnt punished russia for interfering in the election. Listen to how he answered. I do think we have taken action. I just dont think weve announced it. So hes suggesting that the u. S. Has taken some covert action already to punish russia. Can you confirm whether thats true . No, i cant. I dont know what the context of his comment was and i cant confirm that. You cant confirm that because youre not sure about it or you cant confirm it because its covert and you dont want to talk about it . I dont know what hes talking about. I dont know what its in reference to. No, i cant talk about a conversation he had in a Different Forum where i just heard a sound bite. Ambassador haley, north korea tested an intercouldnt Ballistic Missile that could reach the state of alaska. This is how the president responded. Take a listen. As far as north korea is concerned, i dont know. Well see what happens. I dont like to talk about what i have planned but i have some pretty severe things that were thinking about. He also said, just on saturday with the chinese president , something has to be done about it. Something has to be done about it. Pretty severe things. Is he talking about a preemptive strike . I think there are a lot of options on the table when it comes to dealing with china. The ball is in their court. Theyre either going to go along with us and the rest of the International Community and say, yes, we think that what north korea did was wrong or theyre not. The president knows what all his options are. All the options are on the table, as always with President Trump. And i think well handle it accordingly. Ammunition comes in multiple forms. And i think we always have to look at what those options are ahead of what the actions are going to be by china. What if the chinese dont go along with that u. N. Resolution . I think there will be a response. If they dont go along with that, the president has made it clear that he will start looking at trade relations with china. So, we have to see. I think that President Trump, president xi meeting is extremely important right now and extremely timely. And i think its going to be telling in the next few days what happens and what that relationship is going to look like. And youll see how the u. S. Responds accordingly. Ambassador nikki haley, thank you for join iing me this morni. Dana, thank you. Working with puten to stop Election Hacking. Is it letting the fox guard the hen house . Fresh tweets from the president next. woman vo o my husband didnt recognize how tour grandson. Eeth. woman 2 vo thats when moderate alzheimers made me a caregiver. avo if their alzheimers is getting worse, ask about onceaday namzaric. Namzaric is approved for moderate to severe alzheimers disease in patients taking donepezil. Namzaric may improve cognition and overall function, and may slow the worsening of symptoms for a while. Namzaric does not change the underlying disease progression. Dont take if allergic to memantine, donepezil, piperidine, or any of the ingredients in namzaric. 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Then saying we need to move on. I dont think we can move on, and i dont think that russia could be a partner in a Cyber Security unit. If thats our best election defense we might as well mail our ballot boxes to moscow. I dont think thats an answer at all. I want to talk to Cyber Security in a minute. Are you saying that the president is not telling the truth about what happened in that private meeting . Im saying as much as i like nikki haley, she wasnt in the room as much as i was, and to think that the president took such a different position privately with Vladimir Putin than he took publicly the day before. Why on earth would you do that and so undermine your own position . Were, i guess, meant to believe hes much stronger in public than hes willing to be privately. Why does that make any rational sense . On the contrary, if he was determined to press putin, he would have gone into that meeting and said unequivocally, this is what russia did, even by an account from the secretary of state, apparently the president asked putin whether he did it. He didnt go in there and confront him and say, as nikki haley would suggest and we all love to believe, we knee you did this. You have to stop. Its hard to imagine, given what he said only hours earlier. You mentioned Cyber Security i want to put up what the president tweeted again this morning about this. He said putin and i discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that Election Hacking and many other negative things will be guarded. What do you make of that . I think we have to remember, the president just went into a meeting with a man who ordered hacking of our democratic institutions. So, putin wasnt a disinterested party. He was one who ordered this orchestrated effort to interfere in our democracy and do so through cyber means and to now suggest or believe that he can count on mr. Putin or his government to be a constructive player ignores not only what he did in our election but what hes doing currently in german elections, what he did in french elections, what hes doing in other parts of the world. The russians want to take down liberal democracy. That is what theyre about right now. In a new ideological struggle. To gloss over that, to ignore that, to try to bury that with the idea that we can work in a Cyber Security group is a dangerously naive view to take of russian intentions and how much we can count on them. Look, i think something constructive did come out of this meeting. It was the cease fire in syria. It wasnt a total loss. On the issue of hacking, it was a loss for the country because the president went into that discussion having really undermined our own position. The president also tweeted again about the dnc server. Here is what he said again this morning. Questions were asked about why the cia and fbi had to ask the dnc 13 times for their server and were rejected. Still dont have it. Can you clear this up, congressman . Did the dnc actually refuse to turn overity server to the fbi during the 2016 election when they were hacked . First of all, deigna im not sure what the president is saying there. Were questioned asked at the g20 about the dnc server . I find that hard to believe. On the merits, this is one of the issues were looking into. Was there a request by the fbi for the dnc server . Was there a reluctance by the dnc to turn it over . Only thing weve seen publicly so far again, we still need to probe beyond this is dreker comeys testimony that what they got was essentially the blueprint of the server from the firm that satisfied the fbis needs. I still want to test that testimony. This is something we will get to the bottom of. It doesnt excuse what the russians did. You dont blame the victim for the hack, no matter what kind of security precautions the dnc took or what they did afterwards. This was still an orchestrated effort by an adversary of the United States. Congressman, i want to ask about something the New York Times is reporting this morning, that donald trump jr. , Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner met during the campaign with a lawyer who was a highprofile russian national. The president s eldest son told the newspaper that the meeting was primarily about an adoption program. Does this story raise questions for you . It certainly raises questions for a variety of reasons, of course. The president s son had denied having any kind of meetings like this. They claim that this meeting had nothing to do with the campaign and yet the Trump Campaign manager is invited to come to the meeting. And theres no reason for this russian Government Advocate to be meeting with Paul Manafort or with mr. Kushner or the president s son if it wasnt about the campaign and russia policy. Obviously, they were trying to influence one of the candidates, the leading candidate at that time on the republican ticket. So, what weve heard thus far doesnt make much sense. What we just heard from the spokesman for the president s lawyer suggesting this was contrived by Hillary Clinton also doesnt make sense. Yes, we need to get to the bottom of it. Does getting to the bottom of it mean potentially calling donald trump jr. Before your committee which is investigating this . I think well want to question everyone at that meeting about what was discussed. By trying to frame its about adoptions it ignores what it sounds like the meeting may really have been about, and that is an act, very powerful sanctions legislation that goes against russian human rights abusers. If this was an effort to do away with that sanctions policy, that is obviously very significant. If theyre talking to the president s team, then candidate trumps team, that contradicts, of course, what the president and his people have said about whether they were meeting with any representatives of the russian government. Congressman adam schiff, thank you so much for joining me this morning. Thanks, dana. Something has to be done. President trump says north Koreas Nuclear ambitions must be stopped but what would a preemptive strike really look like . Obamas secretary of defense will be here to game it out right after the break. Stay with us. [brother] any last words . [boy] karma, danny. Karma [vo] progress is seizing the moment. Your summer moment awaits you, now that the summer of audi sales event is here. Audi will cover your first months lease payment on select models during the summer of audi sales event. Pressure. I feel it every day. But at night, its the last thing on my mind. 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Im sure the department of defense has options available to the president. This washington i see what people are writing about now. Theres option a and option b. Then they look at diplomacy, war, conclude rightly that war is on the Korean Peninsula is not something to trifle with. Its a serious, serious matter there. And then decide there are no good options. In the real world of diplomacy and strategic affairs, these are not alternatives that the president of the United States choose. Theyre an unfolding pattern of coercive diplomacy. So you do have to begin with diplomacy and with a process that makes the choice not for the american president to choose between starting something on the Korean Peninsula and giving in to north korea, but make it north koreas choice whether this is going to lead to a coercive outcome for them and china as well. And if you take those paths, if it does come to some kind of altercation in the future, we would be better prepared because we would have had that time to ready our forces, possibly reinforce our forces. Is the american is america prepared . Thats what americans want to know. Of course. They are safe from a ive personally been at it since 1974. Weve consistently improved our nuclear capabilities, south koreas capabilities have improved. We have deployed missile defenses, both short range and long range consistently and in advance of what we anticipate the North Koreans will be doing so that we always stay one step ahead of them. So, were very prepared. But i think its important not to take the idea of military action on the Korean Peninsula or war lightly. And this is a situation in which we need to get north korea and china in a corner and not put our president in a corner. Lets turn to russia. You have known Vladimir Putin since he was a lowlevel aide. Yes, i did. Do you think he can be a legitimate partner on Cyber Security . I you know, the russians pulled out the old playbook. Ive seen all this going back to russian and soviet days. When confronted with something theyve done wrong, ask for u. S. Intelligence. Old trick. Propose a working group. In this case on cyber. But this is like the guy who robbed your house proposing a working group on burglary. Its they who did this. And so was it a mistake for the Trump Administration to buy it . I dont think they can buy or we should that can its fine to talk to the russians about lots of things. Its never a problem talking to people. Its a matter of what you say. But in this case, this isnt just a matter of looking backward. This is a matter of looking forward. Were going to have elections in a year and a half. There are state elections, municipal electrics as well as national elections. There are elections in other countries. Its important that there be consequences for the russians in regard to this. To me, this is just getting to your question about putin, a pattern with putin. In defense, this is why we thought it was so important to stand strong against russia in europe. Put new u. S. Formations in europe. Write a new playbook for nato. Why im very skeptical about cooperating with russia in syria. Why i think its important that we capitalize our nuclear arsenal. Theyre doing a nuclear buildup. So you mentioned things that you did during the Obama Administration to confront russia. But President Trump continues to he has a point. Well talk about this fault president obama for not taking action against russia when it comes to meddling in the u. S. Election. Listen to what he said. Told it was russia by the cia, as i understand it, it was well reported. And he did nothing about it. They say he choked. Thats the real question. Why did he do nothing from august all the way till november 8th . You were his defense secretary. You were in the situation room when this was discussed. Why didnt he act . I think he did take some actions. In defense we took a wide range of actions. To me, this was part of a pattern. To me, personally, this was part of a pattern with Vladimir Putin. But i dont think i think its quite clear that that was not sufficient. Thats why its so important to press the russians now. If it were sufficient, Vladimir Putins answer to our president wouldnt have been to say cast doubt about it or ask for further intelligence from the United States. And thats why, again, this is not just a matter of looking backward. Its an important question for our future because its important that americans, when they go to the ballot box and those in other countries as well, understand and be assured that the russians havent been there first. No question theres a lot to deal with in the future. But because you were there, i have to ask. You said that more could have been done. Did president obama make a mistake in not doing more . Well, he did took some steps, no question about it. But i think you see from Vladimir Putins answer right now that more needs to be done. Putin is not convinced that there are going to be consequences of a magnitude for russia, as a consequence of interfering with the u. S. Election that make it unwise for him to do it in the future. That hasnt been accomplished yet. And thats why it is important to stick with this issue and not be reassured by the russian readout, another old trick of theirs is to give a readout of a meeting, which favors them. And so i think going forward, we need to stand strong with russia and not be reassured and not be diverted by them asking for intelligence, trying to muddy the waters. Youre understandably loyal to your former boss but it sounds like you are not all that comfortable with the reaction. Most of all, im loyal to the United States. Absolutely. Both the current president and the president i served. They both deserve to get from russia on behalf of the American People Something Better than what Vladimir Putin offered the other day. And we deserve that, too. President trump deserves that. And i think that he and his administration need to keep pressing for that because the business is not done yet. And its an issue for the future. Not just a matter of looking back but looking forward. Thank you for your time this morning. Thank you. Good to be with you, dana. Thank you so much. Coming up, is health care on life support . What senators are saying back in their home states this weekend, thats next. Manaits a series of is nsmart choices. And when you replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna made with carbsteady to help minimize blood sugar spikes you can really feel it. Glucerna. Everyday progress. We come into this world needi others. Then we are told its braver to go it alone. But there is another way to live. 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With me now, rick santorum, nina c and jen psaki, former White House Communications director. Senator, ill start with you. What do you think that the chances are that this will actually happen . I like ben sasse a lot. Bad idea. The idea of trying to repeal this thing and not replacing it. We didnt run on repeal. Reran on repeal and replace. What Mitch Mcconnell laid out was absolutely proper. We dont get this thing done were going to have no choice but to save the system because if we dont save it, then millions of people are going to go uninsured and were going to get egg over our face. That means were going to have to work with democrats. Mitch gave a dose of reality. We either work this out and find something we can pass or lots of bad things are going to happen. So its not a free ride for you guys on the right or the left who say oh, we cant you know, were going to draw our put our stake here. If we dont get this, then Mitch Mcconnell and donald trump have no choice but to save a bad system. And that is a disaster in 2018. Thats why they have to get something done. Youre a sitting member of the house of representatives, a republican. When you hear work with democrats on health care, do you think to yourself, yeah, right . Thats not going to pass any kind of political test in the house, or do you think, you know what . This is what we should be doing. Ideally, it would be nice to have bipartisanship, nice to have democrats work with us. They have made a political calculus not to do so, no matter what policy we bring forth. It would be important to do that and is important just because its difficult right now and because were looking at this michlt opically. What does ben sasse say . But thats the legislative process. So we have to respect the senates process, ultimately. Im optimistic that theyll get something passed, that well get something through. The fact that its tough doesnt alleviate the responsibility. There are a lot of American Families who are really hurting right now. If this bill ends up not getting the votes in the senate, the republican bill, youre okay with sitting down and doing this in a bipartisan way . I think it should be anyway. Democrats have been screaming for several years now. Senator mark warner up for reelection is talking about the aca has problems. We have to fix it. They know its messed up. They know it predates the november election, that there are big fundamental problems with the aca. Come to the table. I think its important that they do. Jen psaki, do you think its realistic . Even you admitted that obamacare does need help. But do you think that the democratic base, which is so riled up right now, and is not really thrilled with the notion of democrats talking to republicans, do you think that the base is going to let democrats work with republicans in a bipartisan way . I dont think the base would let democratic leadership work with republicans on this bill that is moving through the senate. If this bill does not get through, there needs to be a fix to the lack of competition in the marketplaces. The base may have problems with democrats working with republicans on that but ultimately, they will lose their health care and they will not have access to the same options that they have had if they dont. I think democrats need to get to the table with republicans. Haef been willing to from the beginning. Senator schumer said they would be willing to have discussions with republicans. They havent been part of the negotiations or discussions. Hopefully, this bill fails or doesnt get to the floor and then democrats and republicans can work to address the actual problems. Theres another problem. There is promise in this problem. This is tiemt for the big girls and big boys to put their clothing on and come to the table together and do what is in the best interest of the American People. This is the moment to do that. I mean, we have almost 30 Million People right now underinsured or uninsured under the Affordable Care act and 22 million more people would Lose Health Care coverage as that bill is presented by the senate. This is an opportunity to put the people over the politics in the senate and hopefully the entire congress by extension. This is the moment. Theres promise in this problem. Whats missing in that, though, is that we look at this the republicans are having problems coming together, too. Lets talk about the democrats for a second. Huge divide in the Democratic Party right now. They are not aligned in terms of what if they had a choice to replace Something Like that. Singer payer option for universal health care, which is sustainable. And all the ones that dont want that. They have more of a divide, i would say, than the republicans do. It hasnt taken them seven years. For seven years, theyve been talking about repealing and replacing obamacare and have not done it to this point. Theres another alternative. The other alternative is for the president to step forward and provide leadership here. The best way to do that, in my opinion, is to do what we did when we had a similar problem in 1996, in trying to reform welfare. We went to the republican governors and republican governors came together and said this is a plan that were willing to put together and that gives us more responsibility to deal with this and washington you work with us. I have no doubt that if republican governors get together, every republican senator from one of those states is going to vote for what their governor wants. Thats exactly what happened in 1996. If donald trump wants to change the game here in washington, i would say go out of washington. Go into the state capitals. Meet with scott walker, the head of the rga, and meet with a whole bunch of other republican governors who are want to fix this problem but want the flexibility and the money to do it. I think if he does that, he will show real leadership here in washington. Senator santorum makes a good point. One reason that this republican bill is stuck in the senate, republican senators are facing pressure from the republican governors who actually like the way obamacare is working in our states. Thats not necessarily true. Maybe they want it to be reformed but like the money theyre getting. A philosophical difference here. I will Say Something that i think he said that was good. We believe and know that health care is assumed at the local level. No one cares more about your health care than you do. We believe it should be more pushed down to the states and local level, for them to be able to address their populations correctly. Yeah, there are governors who have a legitimate concern about having flexibility to deal with their own populations and not have a onesizefitall solution. My governor, john kasich supported the Medicaid Expansion that allowed 7,000 additional ohioans have this Health Care Just this past week had to wrestle with his own legislature that really overturned that expansion and he line item ve vetoed that. Why is that . Talking about how important it is not to leave anybody behind. The poor and the disabled and our elderly folks, not to leave them behind. Thats important. Thats a great point. On the politics of this, the problem you have with what you just said, 20 republican senators from states that have expanded medicaid. Thats right. To your point, they do not feel that they want it to be left to the states to figure out how to spend money. They want the money from the federal government. They want to be able to cover excuse me. They want to be able to cover poor people. Thats not true. People just over the poverty level. If you look whats happening recently its not just concerns about medicaid. Over the recess now its senators from rural states where theyre worried about access for people, about places where Health Clinics are going to shut down. Theyre worried about people not having doctors. So, really, the governors concerns are much different from what youre talking about and a bill would be entirely different than what you said. No question. Theres no question. I disagree with you very fundamentally. Theres no question that the Medicaid Expansion states, republican governors like your governor. One of the reasons the Legislature Opposed him is because theres this weird distortion that incentivizes states so the Medicaid Expansion doesnt necessarily cover pregnant women, disabled folks. It covers childless, abled body adults. In virginia, medicaid was 5 of our budget. Its now going past 22 at an unsustainable rate. If you just expand it hold on a second. If you expand it, reimbursement rate for those able bodied childless adults is much higher than the disabled and the poor. Theres a pretty bad distortion there. Thats why the Republican Legislature said, look, we have to freeze this because we cant afford it because its crowding out police and fire and teaching and all the other fundamental things that the states had to pay for. The answer is not simply just expanding unsustainable. Thats not what the bottom line is this. First of all, they didnt override the governors veto. They knew better than that. The grass roots rose up and got a clue. The bottom line is that people have to come together. Forget the Political Division here and come together on behalf of the American People. This is a discussion that lawmakers and governors should be having as they come together, right . Yes. To actually fix health care. Such a great discussion. Thank you all for coming in this morning sbl thanks for having us. 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