Middle of the heart, and she wouldnt be prosecuted. Meanwhile, the pundits keep critiquing donald trump, but he is gaining ground. Both nationally and in swing states, leading democrats to wonder, why isnt she doing better . Also, in the closest thing to a debate that we have had so far, the big loser was the moderator, matt lauer. Will the medias Rough Treatment of lauer impact moderators of the real debates. And as we mark the 15th anniversary of 9 11, congress has just approved letting victims sue saudi arabia. But will the president stop that with a veto . I will ask the nations first secretary of homeland security, tom ridge. But first, both candidates said shocking things last night that will only perpetuate their high negatives. Theres a third party in the race, fighting its way to the debate stage. And the libertarian ticket, gary johnson and bill weld, will be joining me later in the program. This week, johnson finally became a National Name in the president ial race, but not for any reason he had hoped. The president ial candidate number flubbed a question on aleppo, syria, which he should have nailed. What would you do if you were elected about aleppo . About . Aleppo. And what is aleppo . Some have called his brain freeze a disqualifier. Really . In comparison to his opponents . I dont agree. And i cant help but notice that in the New York Times coverage of this error, the times had to make two corrections to its own reporting, because the newspaper misidentified aleppo. I know, we ask more from our president s, but Gary Johnsons in good company. Thats my point. Look, its doubtful that johnson will be the nations 45th president or that bill weld will replace joe biden. But i think that americans would benefit from hearing their message of Fiscal Conservatism and Social Liberalism. They deserve to be on that debate stage. Neither the republican nor democratic ticket can match their executive governing experience. In fact, we havent had a Third Party Ticket this qualified in modern history. Johnson is a successful entrepreneur turned public servant. Twice elected republican in the very Democratic State of new mexico, he eliminated the state deficit, created a surplus, all while reducing the size of the states government. And he governed without an ethical blemish. Quite a credential when viewed against his competition. Weld also elected twice as a republican in a Democratic State, massachusetts. His bio, straight out of central casting. Unfortunately, credentials dont determine debate participation. Polls do. And even though johnson and weld will be on all 50 State Ballots in order to get to debate, they need to quickly reach 15 in an average of five National Polls. While they meet that threshold in several states, theyre not there nationally yet. Despite the aleppo flap, i hope they make it. Johnson and weld have offered a nuanced vision of independence and thoughtfulness. They refuse to campaign dirty. They are even willing to utter the c word, compromise. Putting them on the debate stage would also force their opponents to defend their views against independent thinking. They just got their first endorsement from a major daily newspaper, the Richmond Times dispatch. So heres my idea. If a pollster calls you, tell them youre for johnson weld. You can always change your mind. After the debates. Time for you to get involved. And not just on twitter. I do a poll on my Daily Siriusxm radio program. Were going to try it out here. Go to cnn. Com vote and answer this question. Before the gary johnson controversy this week, would you have known the answer to what is aleppo . Be honest. Cnn. Com vote. Ill announce the results later in the program. Now to mark tomorrows 15th anniversary of 9 11, i had long ago invited the nations first secretary of homeland security, tom ridge. Glad i did. Because now there is so much more to ask him about from todays headlines. Mr. Secretary, great to see you. I want to begin with congress yesterday. Voting to allow 9 11 victim families to sue saudi arabia for the 9 11 plot. What should president obama do . Well, first of all, i think the Executive Branch has an entirely different perspective on the relationship with saudi arabia, so i dont think anyone should be surprised, given the complicated and important relationship we have with the saudis that the president vetoes it excuse me, the president vetoes it. And i wouldnt be surprised if the veto was overridden. I guess i take a look at this story 15 years later, after 9 11, and 9 11 certainly is a new chapter in american history, and certainly a new chapter in american security. And to think it took 15 years to make a decision in this regard is rather remarkable. And two, there are so many pressing challenges associated with what transpired in 9 11. Its disappointing they still havent addressed many of those in the past 15 years either. The more passage of time, the more i wonder, are they friend or are they foe . Whats tom ridges answer to that question . I think it depend on how they view their relationship with our country and their own sovereign interests at the time. Lets face it. Sovereign countries operate exclusively when its in their best interest. If its in their best interest to side with us, to deal with iran, and which is a certainly a challenge to their relationship in the region, then theyll be very supportive of us. If its in their best interest to work contrary to our interest, theyll do that. Sovereigns do that. We just need to understand it. There are no permanent allegiances in the global community. There are a lot closer allegiances among democracies, but sovereigns do whats best in their best interest. And we can align our best interest with theirs, theyre our friend. When our interest is not aligned with theirs, from time to time they necessarily can be a foe. Mr. Secretary, we will soon have a brandnew commanderinchief. Intelligence briefings now in earnest for both secretary clinton and for donald trump. I want to show you something that donald trump said relative to one of his Intel Briefings. Roll the tape. What i did learn is that our leadership, barack obama, did not follow what our experts and our truly when they call it intelligence, its there for a reason what our experts said to do. And i was very, very surprised. It in almost every instance. And i could tell, im pretty good with the Body Language. I could tell they were not happy. Our leaders did not follow what they were recommending. So he says, i can read the Body Language of those giving me an Intel Briefing and it tells me that obama and clinton did not follow their recommendations. Now youre a guy in the loop. Do Intelligence Briefers make recommendations, or present facts . In my experience, the professionalism of our Intelligence Community is undisputed. Its not their position nor their responsibility to make recommendations. Every intelligence briefing i had, and obviously i had multiple briefings, was strictly to the facts. And the notion that people are reading other peoples Body Language and pulling from that conclusions i think is its not only inappropriate, its not terribly president ial. Tom ridge grew up in public housing, went to harvard, and wore the uniform of his country in vietnam. I want to show you Something Else that donald trump said the other night. This pertaining to the generals in our military command. Roll that tape. I think under the leadership of barack obama, and Hillary Clinton, the generals have been reduced to rubble. They have been reduced to a point where its embarrassing for our country. Governor, he also said that he might replace generals. Is that the way the chain of command operates . Can he just replace generals . Well, he certainly cant. Lets be very, very clear about this. Whenever donald trump has something to say, he says it, regardless of whether its based in fact, based on reality or any of that sort. I mean, this whole notion that you can regardless of outcome, regardless of circumstances, singlehandedly wipe the slate clean, start replacing generals, is just its troubling to me that someone who aspires to be the president of the United States and the Commander In Chief would think so ill of those who have served this country for hundreds of years and be so dismissive of those who have given recommendations and so dismissive of their service. In that same Candidate Forum pertaining to national security, secretary clinton made a statement relative to both syria and iraq. I want to show you that tape, as well. They are not going to get Ground Troops we are not putting Ground Troops into iraq ever again. And beer not putting Ground Troops into syria. Were going to defeat isis without committing american Ground Troops. Mr. Secretary, i hope there are no Ground Troops placed in iraq or in syria. But i think theres a separate question as to whether she should have said that. Your view . Well, i dont think its ever appropriate for those who would be a commanderinchief or those, frankly, are in charge to be announcing in advance what our plans are. One of the challenges and one of the problems ive had sometimes with this administration is that tactics were divulged publicly. And i think its really inappropriate. Again, you aspire to be not only the president , but the commanderinchief, the leader of the free world and the notion that you would tell your foes in advance of certain things you would do or not do i think is just not again, i dont think its terribly president ial. Final question transparency is not always in our best interest as a country. And i think both of these candidates need to understand that. A quick final question. You and i come from opposite corners of the great commonwealth of pennsylvania. Is the state really in play . I think it will be no, i dont. But, again, i havent seen any polls. But my gut tells me that because of demographics, because of the extraordinary work the democrats have done in terms of registering voters, they have massive majority, and i think donald mr. Trump has to do better in the suburban counties outside of philadelphia, and right now, as i read the tea leaves, hes not doing very well there. Governor, thanks so much for coming back to the program. I always appreciate your commentary. Let me just thank you, michael, and your friend, steve singer. On this particular day you worked really hard and raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for the flight of the 93 memorial. So i tip my hat and thank you for that. 10 at a time. I hate steven singer. Com. Thanks for that. What do you think . Tweet me. Ill read some later in the program. 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This week, america finally got to see the major Party President ial candidates interviewed backtoback on live tv. But the reviews were all about the conduct of the interviewer. Nbcs matt lauer was attacked for not challenging trump, while seeming to be very tough on clinton. With the upcoming president ial debates looming large, the role of the moderators now in the spotlight. Lester holt of nbc is doing the first one. Will he feel pressure to even things out . My next guest has a lot to say about that. David brock, a clinton supporter, who founded media matters, just wrote this letter to the commission on president ial debates, asking that they remove foxs Chris Wallace from the first from the debate that hell moderate. Among his reasons, roger ailes, who until recently was wallaces boss, has been advising donald trump, and that wallace said this about his role. Donald trump on Hillary Clinton, what do you do if the they make assertions that you know to be untrue . Thats not my job. I do not believe that its my job to be a truth squad. Its up to the other person to catch them on that. David brock is joining me now. Hey, david. Let me get this out of the way. I think that matt lauer made a mistake. By the way, ive got immense respect for him. But i think he made a mistake when not confronting donald trump relative to iraq. He absolutely should have made reference to the howard stern interview on iraq and said to donald trump, thats just not true. But in a debate scenario, is that really lauers job or Chris Wallaces job rather than the opponent . Isnt that why the opponent is there . A debate is a joust. It will be up to Hillary Clinton to correct that record. I dont think you need a constant factchecking operation going on inside the debate. But i do think where there are clear falsehoods that have been said before by these candidates, adequate preparation would be to challenge to challenge them on that. I mean, you know, youre a host. Youre going to challenge me in this interview. I cant see just sitting there and reading off a list of questions and not listening, not having a real conversation and not challenging. As i said, you know, it is certainly the role of the opponent, as well, to get in it. But i think you cant just lie down there in the face of these falsehoods. And as we know, every independent factchecking operation shows that donald trump, his lies are off the charts. Hillary was rated as the most truthful of the entire field, republican democrat. So the point here, if he lays down, its going to advantage trump, disadvantage hillary. But im concerned about the debate therefore becoming all about the moderator. And, you know, sometimes facts are fungible. People are still debating, whether Candy Crowley was correct in the obama romney debate by talking about what it was the president said pertaining to benghazi and did he use the word terror the day after. I know you know of what im speaking. So its not always so clearcut. Given what howard stern interviewed about donald trump, that was a clear instance. So matt lauer should have said something. I just dont want to open pandoras box. Right. No, i dont disagree with you. I dont think every time somebody says something its up to the moderator to factcheck it. But i think that was a very glaring instance. Were in agreement on that. And so and then the other part of my objection to Chris Wallace has to do with a Conflict Of Interest on its face. Which youve already youve already referenced my letter. Roger ailes advising donald trump, also rupert murdoch, Chris Wallaces lawyer. Look, if jeff zucker was advising Hillary Clinton and also being paid by cnn, cnns critics would be squealing like stuck pigs and be right to do it. This is wrong on its face. Optically, it stinks. So i think the Debate Commission has a particular Chris Wallace problem they need to address. Let me do something that matt lauer didnt do the other night. Let me challenge you on that assertion for a moment. Okay . Because you presuppose that ailes has some leverage of Control Over Wallace at this stage which i think is entirely absent and to the extent hes being given any money by murdoch at this point, it was only to show him the door. So i dont think that holds water. Im not presupposing whats going on inside fox news. I dont know. Ill give you that. But just on its face, the arrangement is a Conflict Of Interest arrangement. Journalists are constantly hitti Hitting Politicians for optical problems. Why cant we hold journalists to the same standard . The point is, we actually dont know whats going on inside fox news. But we do know on its face that roger ailes is playing this dual role and its just a matter of Public Confidence in these debates. Both sides, trump and clinton, are going to be in agreement that the stakes in this election are extraordinarily high. And so i think we need to go the extra step there, and its on the commission to make that decision. But i think the extra step there to ensure Public Confidence. And at least have wallace acknowledge all of this so, you know, in the debate, so that people can make up their own minds. Final comment or question for david brock. Youre pretty sophisticated guy when it comes to these political matters. Is what youre really doing here setting the bar for wallace and youre Planting A Seed so that when people are watching this debate, theyll have in the back of their minds that david brock and others said, well, he shouldnt even be there moderating it. And therefore, you will have lessened what Hillary Clinton needs to achieve that night when we get to that debate . Well, yes, in part. Let me explain what were trying to do here. Ahha. First of all, we want to shine a light on this so the public does know. So am i trying to communicate to the public that there is an issue here that they should be aware of when theyre seeing the debate . We need a real fair and balanced debate, not a fox style debate . Yes, i am trying to do that. Secondly, im trying to get the commissions to take responsibility and actually do the right thing here. I you know, i dont know that thats going to happen. And third, i want Chris Wallace to go the extra mile and, you know, whatever pressures he may be under, forego those and do a good job. David brock, i appreciate your thoughts. Thank you. Thanks. Tough job to be a debate moderator. I dont envy any of them. Tweet me your thoughts at smerconish. Here next, the libertarian ticket, governors gary johnson and bill weld, who i think ought to be on that debate stage. Which reminds me, dont forget to vote at cnn. Com vote. Before johnsons controversy this week, would you have known the answer to what is aleppo . Check out the early returns. 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Gary johnson, the former twoterm governor of new mexico and bill weld, former twoterm governor of massachusetts, they compromise the libertarian ticket. They need to quickly get to 15 in the average of five National Polls in order to make the debate stage. How can that happen . Im about to ask. Joining me now, Governors Johnson and weld. I really appreciate you being here. Governor johnson, i dont want to beat you up on the whole aleppo thing. Youve been beat up enough on it. But i want to raise this question. I know that you said that you were thinking acronym when you heard aleppo. Im wondering, is it also a reflection of those issues that do have your focus and those that do not . Because a hallmark of your candidacy is that you believe in less foreign entanglements. Might that be an explanation as to why you didnt identify aleppo . No, michael. No excuse whatsoever. And i know youre doing a poll right now. But most not the person on the street is not running for president of the United States. But understanding what is happening in syria, that it is very serious, that ive been saying now for quite some time that the key to syria is bringing russia to the table, believing that kerry was actually involved in those negotiations and then seeing, you know, just last night that, in fact, we do have what hopefully will be a lasting ceasefire. You dont want us there, is my point. You dont want us over there, wherever over there might be. Is it fair to say that gary johnson believes that every time we open a base overseas, we put more american lives in jeopardy . And not make us more safe . Well, you know, we are there right now. Were going to honor all treaties and obligations, and you cant wave a magic wand and not recognize that we are there. But were there in the first place, because we do support Regime Change, which i think has resulted in what is happening right now in syria. And that started with iraq and raqqah and the fleeing of saddam husseins loyalists that fled to raqqah. Governor weld, talk to me on this issue. What distinguishes your ticket from the republican and democratic ticket as we talk about the events of the middle east in particular . Well, i do think our first inclination is not to support Regime Change every time we see something we dont like going on in another country. The United States has been at war in one place or another in the world for most of the last 40 years, and its just too much of a presumption in terms of intervention. We think that iraq, syria and libya have proven that you dont necessarily effectuate good by going in Military Power in both libya and syria, we armed the rebels, the rebels lost and the arms wound up in the hands of isis. Thats not helping anything. I mean, i think governor johnson, in addition to calling for the ceasefire yesterday, which is very timely advice, has been spoton on syria, and saying that the solution has to lie through russia. Thats not to say its going to be easy. But i really commend secretary kerry. Hes had one heck of a year between iran and syria. Why cant you two fellas close . Im going put up on the screen where you stand in a couple of states relative to your bid for making the debate stage. Put up those numbers from the swing states. It seems to me that your message of Fiscal Conservatism and Social Liberalism matches the country. Youve got two of the least popular Major Party Candidates who have ever run for the presidency. There you are in North Carolina at 15. Ohio at 14. My home state of pennsylvania, 9. Florida, 8. Governor johnson, wherein lies the deficit of closing the deal . Well, were closing the deal. We went up nationally, spending a couple Million Dollars in 21 states. Nationally we are up doing advertising. This Washington Post poll this last week that has us at plus 10 in 42 states, plus 15 in 15 states. Plus 19 in five states. Were now reaching over 50 million on social media. So all of the analytics are ratcheting up, and in my opinion, theres just no question that we are going to get to that 15 . Will that be for the first debate . Maybe, maybe not. But 15 is not something thats a law. The president ial Debate Commission made up of democrats and republicans and theyve arbitrarily set this number, really. Were supposed to have 21 million supporters as opposed to 18 million . You know, thats a tough call. And its a tough call that i think falls on 50 of americans right now that are declaring themselves as independents. You know, michael, the truth is, if pollsteres asked, who do you think, trump or johnson or clinton, we would be 20 and 30 . But the way they ask the question, they say trump or clinton. And one more thing, if you could vote for a third party, would you . So that skews the results massively. Theyre also doing telephone land line polling, which doesnt pick up the millennials, which is now the largest voting block, and gary is number one among millennials 18 to 24. Hes number two 18 to 34. These are our people. They dont answer any telephone, much less a land line. And, of course governor romney sent out a tweet this week and said he wants you on that debate stage and begs the question, do you have a shot at his endorsement . Are there any other big names that you can bring aboard within the span of the next week . Well, Governor Schwarzenegger of california came out with a strong statement saying we, by name, should be included in the debates. And i wouldnt be surprised to see a few more governors hop on. Its very easy to say we should be included in the debates when 76 of the people in the United States say they want us in the debates. And the truth is, the commission can do anything it wants to do. Its not its not written in stone this 15 figure. If they put us in the debates, nobody could complain, nobody would have standing to complain. So they shouldnt be fearful. We are the only two candidates on the ballot, only two thirdparty candidates on the ballot in all 50 states, which i think speaks volumes to what it is that were doing. Governors, before you go, lets check in on this poll among my viewers. See what theyre saying about whether they would have known. This is demands the honesty test here. The answer to the aleppo question. Where are we right now . Put it up on the screen. Well, its look at the flux. Its roughly 5545. But its an intelligent audience. What can i tell you, gentlemen . Thank you for being here. I appreciate it. Thank you, michael. Thank you. Governors johnson and weld. I hope they make it. I think they would add an independent perspective to that debate stage. 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With election day 58 days away, the National Polls are surprisingly close. But what really matters, the swing state results, the states where victories will give the electoral votes needed. Those are closer than you might think. The latest quinnipiac polls show clinton ahead in pennsylvania, narrower in North Carolina. Florida, currently a dead heat at 43 each. And trump is ahead in ohio. Last night, Hillary Clinton badmouthed half of trumps supporters, calling them deplorable. Take a listen. To just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of trumps supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. Right . The racists, sexists, homophobics,zen phobic, islamic phobic. You name it. She was more kind to the other half, saying they were disen franchised. Joining me now, democratic strategist, bob beckel and conservative analyst edie hill. Is that going to hurt her . Or are they divideded in this race . No, what she really doesnt like are people who are poor and dont have a college education. She likes the intelligencia. Of she likes the rich liberals. Thats who supports her. Thats her real problem. Bob beckel, does she lose any support that she otherwise would have garnered by what she said last night . Well, you know, it reminds me a little bit of when barack obama said, you know, they grab hold of their flags and guns and their churches. You remember that back in the race against absolutely, 2008. 2008, yeah. That hung around for a while. And my guess is i mean, its the wrong thing to say. But let me just say one other thing about this race. You know, trump, as much as i dont like donald trump, Hillary Clintons Campaign Manager made a Statement Last week, which he said the question is, is donald trump an apparatchik of the russians . Thats way over the line. Thats treasonist. Basically saying if he is, hes treason. The language here on both sides is getting way out of hand, and thats what happens when you have two people who have negatives in the mid 50s to 60s. The only way they can win is make sure the other persons negative stay up. Ive got to correct you on one thing, mike. As smart as you are in politics, this race is not tightening. Donald trump is not increasing. I looked at 14 polls in the key states. And ohio, for example. Donald trump has 40, 41, 39, 40, 41, 42. Its Hillary Clinton thats backing down. And she goes from 49 to 48 to 47 to 46. So, yeah, this race is tightening, but not because trump is getting stronger. Shes getting weaker. Well, you know, e. D. , at the outset of the week, coming out of the labor day weekend, cnn and orc had a National Poll that showed trump up two, and frankly, i was dubious of the significance. I love the beauty contests, but i said, tell me whats going on in the swing states. And then heres Quinnipiac On thursday with those five states. I get beckels point, which is to say that shes coming down. Hes kind of fixed. But nevertheless, its a close race, e. D. It really is. And i think at this point, it still is really a tossup. And its who probably doesnt damage themselves the most. Hillary clinton definitely should not have made that Statement Last night. Donald trump, i think, has been moving up. And the reason why, hes been much more controlled. Hes been sticking to message, and i think has been, with the exception of some things, much less personal. And i agree with bob entirely. Enough with the negatives. Start talking to us as measur americans. What youre going to do for us and i mean for all of us. Hey, bob, i want to go back to your russian comment. I did intend to discuss putin in this conversation. Isnt whats going on here that donald trump says kind things about Vladimir Putin because to the extent putin, through hacking hillarys private servers has something that could embarrass her, he wants to be sure that putin drops it in the waning days of the campaign . Well, i think thats probably part of it. But lets also keep in mind, it was trumps son who said that most of their ongoing Business Interests now in the construction world are with soviets. With russians. And nothing wrong with that. But they have very Close Relationships on their Business Side of things. So i dont know, you know i think if i were trump, i would not talk about putin any more. I mean, i dont think it does him any good. And the people who reacted to it, by the way, were republicans. Not democrats that much. So i think it its a net negative. But, you know, when youre on script, as e. D. Said, about trump, hes done better on script. But, look, last night he gets in a crowd and said Hillary Clinton could come in here and shoot somebody down, and then said this thing about the iranians, if they came and flipped the bird to an american ship, that would be blown out of the water. I mean, those are the kinds of things, you know you dont need it, and all it is it is set you up for another commercial. E. D. , let me show let me show the audio of what bob just referenced, because i do want to get to it. This is what he said relative to Hillary Last Night and then you can comment. Because she is being so protected, she could walk into this arena right now, and shoot somebody with 20,000 people watching right smack in the middle of the heart. And she wouldnt be prosecuted, okay . Thats what happened to our country. E. D. , react to what you just watched. Well, i think he tapped into the belief that Hillary Clinton is somehow able to get away with a lot. Can she go in there and shoot a person and get away with that . Im not so positive about that. But it was the idea and the sentiment. And that sentiment really is what hurts her a lot. Its why people dont trust her. They think that shady things happen. That she gets involved, and somehow stuff disappears, its smoothed over, and thats what really gets to folks. But the whole talk about russia, i want to get back to, real quickly, is thats not what america is talking about. You know, theyre talking about north korea this morning. And i think that pundits and the News Networks miss out on what real Americans Care about. Thats affecting them. Thats what scares them right now. Not putin. Yeah, but thats well thats a good point. Go ahead, bob. What i was going to say, you know, when donald trump says that the reason that the north koreans have successfully launched five times is because of obama and clinton, is way overboard. First of all, the first one was under the bush administration. Yeah. And the majority were under his watch and her watch. Okay. And he comes out after this one and says, now im really upset about it. E. D. , heres heres the simple question for you that should be asked about trump. Okay, mr. Trump, what would you do about it . And i agree. That is exactly what question we should be talking about. And they should both be answering. Thats not what happens. We get distracted. We Start Talking about who putin likes more or less. We Start Talking about whether or not you can point out some place on a map in syria. Thats what we get off on. Thats not what people are caring about. Yeah, but the problem is final question, beckel, if i might. If i said to you if i hit you cold a couple days ago with aleppo, would you have known what i was talking about . No. And but not only that, i think its you know, these guys normally, after labor day, thirdparty candidates tend to goat lower and lower in the polls. These guys are growing. And one of the things we didnt mention about this about these debates, they wont make the first debate. He wont. But he will make the second debate. And im waiting. Its not a question of Arnold Schwarzenegger or somebody else. Some mega millionaire is going to come in and drop 20 million in his lap, tired of both clinton and trump and you watch what 20 million in his hands can do in terms of moving the dial. I think a lot. Hey, wait a minute. 20 million . 20 million, maybe it will be gre gretchen carlson. It may be. Certainly wont be me. I would like to see them in those debates. I think that would be what would be right and just. Im amen. And by the way, im here all week. Thank you, bob. Thank you, e. D. As always. I appreciate you being here. Pleasure. Still to come, the final tally. So keep voting at cnn. Com vote. Answer the question. Could you answer what is aleppo, before this weeks gary johnson gaffe . And your best and worst tweets, like this one. 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They would force the left and the right to defend their views against where 42 of americans reside. And that, my friend, is the center. Thats my only objective. Hit me with another tweet. What have we got . I thought i was crazy for Thinking Johnson made a minor slip compared to trump and clinton. Glad im in good company. The good company that you are in, trevor, is the company of yours truly, because i didnt think it was that big a deal. Frankly i think among the Chattering Class it was the equivalent of a private email server or some of the many gaffes that trump has made. I dont know that It Rest Nated in the rest of the country. Well find out. I love the fact that beckel, when i said on this show did you know what aleppo was on this show, subject to embarrassment, because he certainly knows now, said, no, i dont know. Do i have time for one more tweet . Moderators cant know everything. They need 60 experts on phones live to call bs realtime at any time. 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