Recorder and or the cockpit voice recorder. Those signals the Prime Minister was talking about, they are designed to emit for 30 days. Today is day 36 of the search. Overnight, even the Prime Minister warned that searching for the boxes beneath three miles of water is a daunting task. Overnight, at least ten planes and 14 ships scoured the smallest search zone to date, but that search is still about the size of massachusetts and connecticut combined. Im talking about 16,000 miles. This morning, we have guests exclusive to this program to tackle this issue head on. Andy bowen of the Oceanographic Institute with us today. Woods hole found the wreckage of flight 447. We have expertise of kareen tina symons. I have a lot of questions about the pinger. The depies to emct the signals. We have a lot to tackle so lets get started. The search area is massive. But more intimidating, the depth at which crews might have to search. 13,000 feet down. The eiffel tower, empire state building, 1 World Trade Center and mt. Washington dont have the amount the depths have to go. We have more with andy bowen at the woods hole Oceanographic Institute and christina symons. Before we get to the depths, there is a particular map i have been watching on cnn for the last several days. Could you put that up on the screen now . It shows the triangulation of where the pings have been located. Christina, if the distance is somewhere between 13 and 17 miles, why is the search area between massachusetts and connecticut combined . There is always a bit of error as to where is the sound actually coming from. If you are standing still and you hear something from the sea floor, is it in front of you or behind you. This is why they need multiple ships to hear the sounds from different locations. I suspect the margins of error depicts that. Andy, my knowledge is limited to the days where we were a kid and jumped in the pool and hold our nose and try to talk to one another. Sound is a large part of this. It is, michael. The analogy that christina used, if you heard a gunshot or clap or some loud sound and in the mountains for example, it is difficult to localize the source of the sound. That is the terrain we are dealing with here. On the wallaby plateau. The depths change in 1,000 meters to 6,000 meters. Using the source of the pingers and reducing the uncertainty is the trick that everyone is trying to pull off so the search area can be decreased and made something more manageable in terms of the tools available. The objective, andy, is let the pingers play out and chart the best and at the point they are exhausted because of the battery life, send in the equipment that allow you to find air France Flight 447. That is exactly right. What the search team is doing now is taking the information they gathered from the towed pinger locators and various hits that are shown on the map here and they will be really working hard as they did with the satellite pings that helped to, you know, determine where to search to begin with. It is a game of zeroing in with ever increasing resolution, if you will, until eventually the wreckage will be found. Christina, i made reference to the role you played with james cameron. That was at depths far in excess of what we are talking about in the south indian ocean. What is it like down there . Are there signs of life . Can you see anything at all . Give us a quick education. I would be happy. It is deep. It is nearly twice where they are searching for the black box now. That is seven grand canyons in depth. It is today. You can only see as far as the lights you brought with you which is about 100 feet in front of you. There is life. Teaming with microbial life. Those animals are somehow living at these extreme pressures and cold temperatures. How are they doing that . What can we learn about that . There is pharmaceutical application. We can learn more about the topography and the structure of the sea floor and anticipate how a tsunami would behave and where it would go if triggered by the earthquake. There is so much to learn and we know so little. Andy bowen, i want to learn about the pressure at this depth. Tell me more. There are two aspects that Deploy Technology in these environments difficult. Pressure is probably the predominant one. We are talking about at these depths, it will be 10,000 pounds per square inch, perhaps as high as that. That is equivalent as a couple of big suvs sitting on your big toe. You know, these vehicles have many, many square inches. That adds up literally to millions of pounds trying to squeeze a robot into a smaller space. It has to be Strong Enough to resist these things. Another thing that is really important and i dont think people really appreciate how difficult it is in terms of commutatinicat communication. These ships have to communicate with morse code. Unlike gps that makes missions simple in comparison, we are looking at this job with morse code. The vehicles have to have a high degree of autonomy searching the sea floor. Finally, christina, it is not like you can pull out a map from the glove box and search the ocean floor. The ocean is home to the longest mountain chain. We mapped less than 5 of that. In this area, the search area, they are ready to send, they need to do a thorough survey to have a better sense of what is on the sea floor. Thanks so much to both of you. Andy bowen and christina symons. A round about route for flight 370 makes it look like the plane was trying to avoid detection. How does that influence the investigation . We asked people a question, how much money do you think youll need when you retire . 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The Ongoing Investigation into what happened to flight 370 is the unfinished story this morning. In malaysia, the focus is on the pilot and the route that the plane took. We heard this week that the plane dipped to an altitude of 4,000 feet or 5,000 feet apparently to avoid detection. Air force colonel has flown with special ops and flown Science Research craft for nasa. Colonel christen, where and how this plane was flown, suggest it was being flown opposed to auto pilot . I think people in the cockpit were manipulating the airplane. You can steer through the auto pilot or manually. Like you just said. A little of both, maybe. A little of both. Clearly they were flying around the land masses and trying to stay over the water. I think it is still unclear why they took that route. Did they have a problem with the aircraft or intentionally trying to evade radar. Im glad you brought that up. Im trying to give every benefit of the doubt to the pilots. Is this in itself suggestive of foul play . Could there be a mechanical reason of the route we shown the audience on that map, why that route was taken . I think going down in altitude and turning around and heading back toward land, that would talk to a problem with the aircraft. Rapid depressurization or an inflight fire. They needed to lose 25,000 feet of altitude so the passengers can breathe just with ambient air at that altitude. You want to perhaps turn the airplane around to the airport to accommodate that plane and land as equickly as possible. At some point, you would expect a mayday call to have been sounded, no . Thats an excellent point. You would want a mayday to sound. There are a couple of things. You have an emergency in your transponder or the radio is not working. If that is not working, there is no communication. This is what doesnt make sense. They turned around. If they did descent or was that data that is not accurate, they should have been talking if there is an aircraft emergency. That did not happen. Another basic question. Can a pilot skirt radar by altering his all ttitude or distance from land mass . We can chart this from satellite information and not from radar information. Right. It sounds like they were out of radar range and thats why that wasnt happening. It is clear that the transponder was turned off or disabled for some reason. That is the secondary target. The primary target is radar energy hitting the airplane and bouncing back to the antenna. That is a primary target. That is what they were not getting. If you go down in altitude because of curvature to the earth and go out to sea, you will have to be a certain distance away from antenna and altitude they will not detect you. Colonel, one final question if i might. Of what significance, if any, sir, the fact that the final voice heard was that of the pilot and not the copilot. Does that tell you anything about the dynamics within the cockpit . It sounded to me like business as usual. Very, very routine. If the captain is talking on the radio, on large aircraft, the captain is talking on the radio, that means the first officer is the one flying the aircraft. Then the captain is catching all of the radio signals. Thanks. Thats insightful. Colonel christensen, thanks. Kissing Congress Member on the ropes apologizing for his actions. And the man who made the pinger of flight 370 joins me. Does he believe the black box discovery is at hand . At od, whatever business youre in, thats the business were in. With Premium Service like one of the best ontime delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. Od. Helping the world keep promises. Time for headlines redefined. Headlines that got the story half right. This is from the citizen from louisiana. Mccalister caught in extramarital encounter. This is advance mcallister. The kissing congressman. He was caught on video in an embrace with a congressional field office member. They are both married, but not to one another. A quinnipiac survey was released and it tested Voter Attitudes about members of congress misbehaving. How we view the infidelity and abuse of power. Here is what they found. Worse than infidelity or personal hypocrisy is official hypocrisy. Abuse of power. It occurred to me advance mcallister has each of these going. Hes is the headline i would put on the story. My headline, mcallister. Three strikes. Youre out. Number two comes from the New York Times yesterday. Gm places two engineers on leave in inquiry. It is true, General Motors suspended two engineers this week in connection with their investigation into the ignition default that ignition, i should say defect, which is linked to 13 deaths. One of the individuals approved a part change without cataloging a new serial number. It made it more difficult to uncover the defect. The other engineers, when asked in his deposition if General Motors made a business decision not to fix the ignition issuaei answered yes. It would cost 90 cents per car. Now in the First Quarter of this year, General Motors is about to get stung with 1. 3 billion in losses to cover these costs. My headline, penny wise and pound foolish. Headline number three, says the following. Limbaugh blasts colbert pick. Cbs has just declared war on the heartland of america. By now, you certainly know Stephen Colbert is going to replace David Letterman when he retires a year from now. Rush is saying this is a war being called against the heartland of america. 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This is where taking an exhaustive look at the data and not getting false positives or reflection off the topography. This is where getting as many hits as possible will help them do that. And mr. Hague, how close must your equipment be . You brought some of the equipment with you that is used to detect ping into the studio. If that is accurate, tell me how close one must be to actually detect the ping . This is a device we make. It is called a pinger locator. This has to be within about a kilometer or some of where the pinger would be. And what it does is it gives you a target strength and a bearing. You put this on an underwater vehicle and you can get a target strength and bearing so that vehicle could then find its way along the sea bed to wherever that pinger is located. But this is the part that confuses me. If that device needs to be within a kilometer, how can these four different locations, 17 miles apart from one another all be accurate unless that is a reflection of sound bouncing around within the ocean. The towed pinger locator is more sensitive than this device. It can detect the ping over an area of a few miles. What you have is the Acoustic Properties of the seawater and other geological obstructions or debris. The pinger could actually be tucked in under a piece of debris. It could be channelling the sound away in one direction. Also, the sound under water can be tricky. The sound wants to always bend toward the area of the least sound velocity. So after you get near the surface of 1,000 feet, these can wreck havoc on your acoustic signals. If you are directly above the device, you have no angle of incident. You can go straight through the layers. If you are just a little bit off one way or the other, it can really wreck havoc on the sound. It is like a pitcher trying to throw a baseball down right into the strike zone and beaning the first baseman or trying to smack a home run and it gets halfway to the wall and ends up in the teams dugout. It can wreak that kind of havoc. Mr. Patel, i want to ask you. The rest of us would love to hear what it actually sounds like. Nora, could you run that audio . Mr. Patel, why isnt it continue c al . Im looking at one on tuesday. Why isnt it continual and almost, pardon me, but in the movies, you just hone in on where the sound is emitting from. Why do you lose it, i guess is my question. As they proceed through the search area, they are towing this device behind them and trying to triangulate the signal. As fred said, you could have a lot of things going on with the sound properties and acoustic signatures of that device. There are a lot of things. We dont know what is going on at those depths. Mr. Patel, the battery is at the end of the life span. What is the longest your product can survive beyond 30 days . I understand you have a fix for this that could take it to 90 days. Please explain both of those. This is the standard pinger of 30 days similar to the one on the device. In the lab, we see these go as much as 40 days, michael, but with a significantly lower acoustic output. They can survive up to 40 days, you have to be right on top of the device to hear it. What we have here is our 90day pinger which will be installed on new aircraft starting march of 2015. These have longer life and identical to the 30day device, but give the searchers an additional 60 days of battery life to conclude the search and try to triangulate the location. Mr. Patel, two pingers. One in front of the plane and one in the rear of the plane . Correct. Each flight recorder and the voice recorder would have a pinger. And sko,o, i guess mr. Hegg, once the submersibles go in, it would use sonar . Yes. Once they exhausted all the possibility of the pinger being located, then what they would normally do is basically try to develop from the surface ships, a 3d map of the topography to get a real good understanding of what the terrain is. After that, they would be able to put down the underwater vehicles and be able to create missions based on whatever the underlying bottom topography would be in the area. Anish patel and fred hegg, you added value. Thank you so much. My next guest says despite headlines around the world, you are the safest you have ever been. I got this. [thinking] is it that time . The son picks up the check . [thinking] im still working. Hes retired. I hope hes saving. I hope he saved enough. Who matters most to you says the most about you. At massmutual were owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. Whether youre just starting your 401 k or you are ready for retirement, well help you get there. She thought shed feel better after seeing her doctor. 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The news can pick it up quicker now. I think in this country, it is getter better, but were still not there. Do you think we are living in increasingly violent or less violent times . Increasingly. They have the most sophisticated destructive weapons. I think you see the darkness getting darker and the light getting lighter. I dont know if it is an either or. If i were to tell you we are living in the safest times, you would say what . I dont know. I dont believe it. I feel like people have access to so much more things now. They can see violence everywhere. That is what drives people. The culture. Watching it, listening to it. Definitely. More or less violent times . Less overall, but i think it seems like the incidents coming up are more and more shocking. A culture of fear. It is a complex issue. My next guest says we are actually safer now than at any other time in history. Steven pinker is the author of the book better angels of our nature. Dr. Pinker, you say people are less likely to see a violent death than any other point in history. You spend six chapters. Give me the cliffs notes version now if you would. Violence has declined on many scales of time and magnitude. Homicide is down compared to centuries ago. Wars are less common and deadly. Domestic violence is down. Racial minority violence is down. People spank their kids less than they used to. Any way you want to measure violence, the trend is downward. Even when you control for war, that trend has been downward . That is right. Most dramatically since the end of world war ii. When the most destructive kind of war, when you have two big rich countries fighting each other, has almost disappeared off the map. For most of history, the 800pound gore wiillas were at others throats. Since 1953, big countries stay out of each others faces. What accounts for the long piece in your book . The world is more connected. Countries trade with each other and it becomes cheaper to buy things than to plunder them. There is a norm against International War con quequest. If you were a big country, you tried to expand your country. Since the united nations, an International Norm that boundaries are sacrasanct. War is not on the table as a legitimate way of settling disputes. That is not invariably followed. It is just no longer true. If we never have been so safe, why do we think otherwise . Dr. Pinker, if you had come with me yesterday in central park and saw a snipit of this, you had people say we are living in more or less violence times. Those people would be floored to hear 800 pounds i could do arm curling the book of Research Suggests otherwise. Why the misconception . Because they watch cnn. The media is Getting Better and better. People like to watch violence in the media. We watch it in movies and plays and novels. It grabs our attention on the news as well. It bleeds, it leads. Anytime there is a dramatic event, you will be sure to hear about it. News is about stuff that happens. Not what doesnt happen. I hear your point. I get that when 20 something kids are stabbed at a high school out of pittsburgh, pennsylvania, were fixated on it and it is news. We would be derelict in our duty if we were not covering it. My question is 50 years ago, was there a stabbing incident like that . 100 years ago, was there a ft. Hood . God forbid, was there a sandy hook 100 years ago . There were certainly rampage killings. Probably the rise of Electronic Media have made that particular category of mass killing more common. You are to remember the mass shootings, however dramatic they are, account for a tiny fraction of the violence our country experiences. Every day, 44 people are killed. That is a sandy hook day in and day out 365 days a year. You say the country is getting more violence, you are looking at the school shootings. That is not the bulk of the violence and where it occurs. Dr. Pinker, thank you. Traitor or hero . Edward snowden. My new job as a jeb bush translator. Sort of. At od, whatever business youre in, thats the business were in with Premium Service like one of the best ontime delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. Od. Helping the world keep promises. How much money do you think youll need when you retire . Then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. I was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old. Im going to have to rethink this thing. Its hard to imagine how much well need for a retirement that could last 30 years or more. So maybe we need to approach things differently, if we want to be ready for a longer retirement. agent i understand. dad weve never sold a house before. agent ill walk you guys through every step. dad so if we sell, do you think we can swing it . agent i have the numbers right here and based on the comps that ive found, the timing is perfect. Theres a lot of buyers for a house like yours. dad thats good to know. mom im so excited. Theres a controversy brewing over this years Pulitzer Prizes for journalism. The winners are going to be announced monday afternoon. But the question is whether journalists at the center of the Edward Snowden story will be rewarded or snubbed for their involvement. Joining me now is dylan buyers, the media writer for politico, and, dylan, youve written on this subject. I guess the issue is whether reporting based on stolen documents documents stolen by snowden should somehow be held against the Washington Post or, say, the guardian. Right. And this is something that the Pulitzer Board has had to wrestle with in the past. If you look at how they handled the pentagon papers with the leaks from daniel ellesburg. So its not something theyre unfamiliar with. The question is, at a time when much of the political establishment is upset with snowden for what he did, some have even suggested hes a traitor, that hes a criminal, as the countrys leading journalistic organization, is a decision to reward the Washington Post, to reward Glenn Greenwald and his colleagues, is that viewed as a vindication of what Edward Snowden has done. And thats sort of the question theyre wrestling with when they make this decision, when they announce it on monday. Because some people might not be able to differentiate in the public the role played by the journalists versus the role played by snowden and might regard this as you just said, or insinuated, that snowden is the one getting the pulitzer. Right. And what the Pulitzer Board would say, and what they probably will say should they give this award, is, look, were not honoring thievery. Were not honoring any act of you know, were not suggesting that were endorsing snowden here. What were saying is were honoring the journalism. And it is very hard to think of a story that has had a greater impact, greater ramifications than the Edward Snowden story, than the nsa leaks. And so, by the same token, if they decide for some reason not to honor the reporting done by the post and by greenwald, thats going to be hard for them to justify, as well. Because there really hasnt been a story thats been as big as this. Must they both necessarily be recognized . You know that Glenn Greenwald is far more the activist, and i put Barton Gelman in the category of classic investigative journalism. Can they be recognized for one but not the other . Its a great question. Greenwald has been much more of an advocate, much more of an activist. He is certainly aligned with snowden in a way that when we read the history books, well be reading greenwalds name next to snowden more than gelmans. That said, given how much work both sides have put into this, its very hard to see how you would how you could just reward gelman and not reward the other. That said, i think the Pulitzer Board maybe would like it if they could just reward gelman, because he is sort of that more traditional journalist. But you cant ignore greenwalds involvement in this story. Does it fit the definition of journalism in the eyes of the Pulitzer Committee . And by that, i mean that each of the individuals and i dont want to underplay the work that went into it but they were essentially given a gift by snowden. Right. Its a great point. Some of the folks we talk to say, look, what the Pulitzer Board honors is boots on the ground, hard work, investigative journalism. What happened here is documents basically laid in their lap. What guys like greenwald and gelman will say, no, no, thats wrong. We did a lot of work certainly greenwald went to hong kong. He earned the trust of Edward Snowden. And then, after you have these documents, theres a lot of parsing out, a lot of figuring out what should be published or what shouldnt be published, and also figuring out the context with which to explain all of that, and all of the research to do around that to sort of tell that story. So it would be wrong to say that these they just sort of published documents that fell in their labs a la wikileaks, and wikileaks got a pulitzer prize. Youve set the stage beautifully. Thank you. Thank you, michael. Coming up, more on the search for missing flight 370. First, some people speak french. Some speak spanish. I speak jeb. Youll hear what he meant to say. Cmon, you want heartburn . When your favorite food starts a fight, fight back fast, with tums. Heartburn relief that neutralizes acid on contact. And goes to work in seconds. 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Allow me to do some interpretation. Governor bush said this. We need to elect candidates that have a vision that is bigger and broader, an candid e candidates that are organized around winning the election. But not making a point. Which means Political Parties exist for one purpose to win elections, and not to be ideological vessels. So our party needs to decide now, do we want to win this thing in 2016 . Or do we want to nominate one of the usual suspects whose primary or caucus strength will never translate into a general election contest against secretary clinton . Im interested in winning. Governor bush also said this he said, campaigns ought to be about listening and learning and getting bert. I do think weve lost our way. Im not being critical of my party. But campaigns themselves are reflective of this new america. Which means actually by saying that im not being critical of my party, i am doing the opposite. I mean, come on. That nomination process in 2012 was an embarrassment. Especially the debates. Do you remember when every candidate on the debate stage raised a hand and said hed reject a 10to1 tax cut to spendinghike deal . Guess what, id have kept my hands in my pocket. And regardless of my feelings on the death penalty, i wouldnt have saluted rick perry for overseeing 234 executions. And i would never have stood silently when war veteran steven hill was booed for revealing that hes gay. Those incidents formed an impression of our party that we couldnt shake in the fall. Governor bush also said this the dad who loved their children was worried that their children didnt have food on the table. And, you know, they wanted to make sure their family was intact, and they crossed the border because they had no other means to work, to be able to provide for their family. Yes, they broke the law. But its not a felony. Its kind of its a its an act of love. Its an act of commitment to your family. Let me interpret. That means let me talk about hispanics. Both because i believe in what im about to say and because if we dont do well with this constituency, we cant win in 2016. First of all, immigrants