Airports. Yes, theyre convenient. But if other people know theres no security there. Sure. But if youre looking at the kind of simple screening you can get at these airports, i dont think we need that much screening. I got the leave there it. Im sorry. Appreciate it. Thank you both. Tune in sunday morning to state of the union with jack tapper talking to congressman ed royce and deval patrick. Thats all sunday morning, 9 00 a. M. , 12 00 p. M. Eastern. Our coverage continues with wolf blitzer in the situation room. Happening now, breaking news. Mueller and the madam. Robert muellers Team Interviews the woman who earned notoriety as the Manhattan Madam. The Special Counsel apparently wants to know about her ties to roger stone. Is mueller building a case against the longtime trump ally . Russian hysteria after u. S. Intelligence chiefs paint a grim picture of continuing russian interference at u. S. Elections. Moscow responds with ridicule,
know anything about russian collusion. He didnt participate. And so far he has not been called in to to meet with mueller. Clearly an important story. Thank you very much, sara, for that report. Meanwhile, prosecutors have laid out the lavish lyle steiff of Paul Manafort. Now on day four of his trial, theyre digging into details of his alleged tax and bank fraud. Evan perez is over at the federal court in alexandria, virginia. Evan, whats the latest . Well, wolf, we got some of the most important testimony that weve had so far in this trial. We heard from two of Paul Manaforts accountant, and both testified that he did not disclose to them that he owned these Foreign Bank Accounts that the government says were simply money that he stash aid a way, 60 million that he got paid over the years from Ukrainian Oligarchs and Ukrainian Government people that he was working for. They both testified that Paul Manafort and rick gates hid the fact that they had these bank
accounts, and in fact, that they thought that the money was coming in were simply payments from clients. We also heard from the first time from one of the witnesses that has been offered immunity by the government to testify against the government. Cindy laporta is one of the accountants, and she described how her firm, people working for her, with her essentially fudged some of the numbers on behalf of Paul Manafort in order to reduce his taxes. She said, quote, i very much regretted it appears the reason why she says she did this, fudging the numbers on behalf of Paul Manafort was because Paul Manafort was a very important client to her firm, wolf. And what about the prosecutors . What are they saying about how manafort actually used the real estate, it was quite sensitive, the real . This goes to the heart of the prosecutions case against Paul Manafort that basically, he was lying on his tax returns, lying
to the irs in order to reduce the amount of taxes that he was paying. One of the things, according to the Witness Testimony we heard today was Paul Manafort was reporting that he was using at least a couple of the homes that he owned in new york. He was using them personal residences instead of rental property. What this did, wolf, it essentially lowered his taxes when we reported this to the irs. One of the accountants who was on the stand today described exactly how this was done, to deceive some of the banks that Paul Manafort was doing business with. Again, part of what he is facing here are charges of bank fraud. So, again, this is central to that case. And of course now that weve heard from one of the account t accountants who is saying that they participated in what the government says was a conspiracy, were beginning to see really what the government is trying to do here, which is that these people were helping Paul Manafort hide money from the government, lying to the banks in the process, wolf. A look at breaking news, politics and reports from around the world. Tack the credibility of rick gates. Rick gates was his closest deputy. He has been described often in this courtroom as his right hadnt man. And we expect that he is going to point out that he pleaded guilty to lying to the government. Thats going to be some very fiery testimony when that happens next week. We will of course cover that closely. Evan, thank you very much. Joining us now, democratic congressman Eric Swalwell of california. He is a member of both the intelligence and the Judiciary Committee committees. Congressman, thanks so much for joining us. I quickly want to begin with the breaking news, the Special CounselRobert Muellers team meeting with the socalled Manhattan Madam, known for her ties to roger stone. Do you see roger stone as key witness in the Mueller Probe . I do, wolf. And thats because roger stone will tell you that he himself is a dirty trick center. We learned in our house intelligence investigation that he and donald trump talked
regularly, not just the years before the campaign when they had talked about him running as president in prior years, but throughout the penancesy of the 2016 election. Roger stone foreshadowed that these attacks were coming of course he has changed his testimony a number of times to the House Intelligence Committee sthachlt have all the reason to want to know what he knew and whether he passed on his knowledge to candidate trump. As part of the interview he granted to your committee, the House Intelligence Committee, do you think he was telling the whole truth looking back . I owe youve gone through the testimony. No. I dont, wolf. And we had an opportunity to test his story by subpoenaing his cell phone records, his bank records, his travel records, and the republicans on the committee were completely unwilling to do that. This was a take them at their word investigation. Come on, in take a seat, answer our questions, and we had no interest from the republicans in testing those stories. And now queer left with this, that our only chance of finding
out the truth is bob muellers investigation, which the president e day seeks to shut down. I think it highlights all the more reason we need to protect that. Was he under oath . He was under oath, yes. So do you expect an indictment by Robert Muellers team against roger stone . It wouldnt surprise me at all, wolf, just begin because of the way he has acted and the way he has bragged about working in the past and the dirty tricks he has used on campaigns. But again, the Bigger Picture that i see here with roger stone is donald trump was willing as a candidate to bring on to his team so many people who either use dirty tricks, close to the russians, or demonstrated zero judgment in who they were willing to do business with. So at the very best, like donald trump, he had extremely poor judgment. But the evidence suggest theres is not really innocent explanations here. Its that those qualifications helped them get the job rather
than disqualified. Lets turn to the trial of Paul Manafort, the former Trump Campaign chairman. How important is this trial will is ongoing right now in alexandria, virginia to Robert Muellers overall russia probe . Well, it shows thene seriousness of the probe. Its t former chairman to the president , again, it shows that donald trump was willing to bring on his Team Somebody who had prior Business Relationships with prorussian ukrainians. Again, that would disqualify most people who wanted to work on a president ial campaign. I think with this president , that was actually something that inflated the resume and helped him. So if there is a guilty plea here, wolf, i believe that its going to build a momentum, and the American People are going to start to understand the seriousness of just how close this president has drawn us to the russians. Well, based on what youve seen so far, congressman, how strong is the governments case against manafort . I dont want to make that decision. Thats the jurys decision, and unlike the president , im not going to try to tamp were the jury. But i think theyve at least met the standards to go forward and put it in front of jury. I have faith as a former prosecutor that this jury is not going to listen to the outside noise and theyre going to do the right thing and justice will be served. Yesterday, the director of National Intelligence, dan coats, said he wasnt in a position to, quote, understand fully what happened between President Trump and president Vladimir Putin during their summit last month in helsinki. Its been clearly three weeks. Shouldnt the top u. S. Official here in the United States know that information by now . Yes. And im not convinced that anyone in the president s cabinet knows what was said, because as weve had opportunities to ask them, they seem to not understand. Ranking member adam schiff and i on the Intelligence Committee tried to subpoena the translator so that we could have some sense of whether National Security secrets have been jeopardized. But what really concerns me,
wolf, and i thought that Press Conference yesterday was great. Its sad they had to do it when the president was outside of the building. But it Doesnt Matter if dan coates and fbi director wray are doing all they can to counter meddling. If the person who is behind the wheel, steering, if that person doesnt, then were still helpful and vulnerable. So we need the president to understand it. And we need him to issue the directives. Otherwise, im afraid that the russians are going to keep doing it. And to say that the president does understand it, if he did, the russians wouldnt be doing it. The reason they keep hacking and the reasons they keep doing these social Misinformation Programs is they believe hes given them a green light. He has, why do you think he has . Because they helped him, and he likes them. And he likes people who like him. Congressman swalwell, thanks for joining us. My pleasure. Up next of after the
National Security teams and intelligence warn on russia continuing to attack, can and russia adds insult to injury, ridiculing the latest u. S. Intelligence warnings as nothing more than, quote, stairia. When i received the diagnoses,
jersey. Whats the latest . President trump is taking some time off at his country club in new jersey. But the storm clouds hanging over his administration, they have also made the trip from washington. One key question for the president that he is likely to work on during this trip up to new jersey is whether to finally talk to the Special Counsel, Robert Mueller. President trump arrived for a Summer Vacation at his jersey golf clubfacing a potential hazard that is nowhere near the putting green, the prospect of sitting down for an interview in the Russia Investigation. The president is receiving no shortage of advice as political strategists warn its a trap. Im not an attorney, but my political advice to the president would not be to sit down with bob mueller. The opportunity to make a misstatement potentially or potentially get caught up in the word is too great of something that could happen there. While the president s legal team is keeping the door open. Im not going give you a lot of hope its going toe happen, be we havent stopped negotiating. At a scampaign rally in
pennsylvania, the president hardly sounded like he is warming up to the russia probe. Now, were being hindered by the russian hoax. Its a hoax, okay . Mr. Trump is still bending the truth when it comes to his relationship with the russians, telling supporters he is no friend of the kremlin. I tell you what, russia is very happy that trump won. That i can tell you. Despite the fact that Vladimir Putin just revealed at their joint summit he wanted a trump victory. Translator yes, i did. Yes, i did. Because he talked about bringing the u. S. russia relationship back to normal. Reporter democrats accuse the president of being at odds with his own National Security team, who warned the world russia is still trying to interfere in u. S. Elections. The president was missing, as you said. He was not only missing from that event, the next day he calls it a hoax. And what President Trump did in helsinki and what he did yesterday in calling the russian probe a hoax, it gives a green
light to mr. Putin to continue his activities here in the United States. And as one of the president s top intelligence officials conceded, its not fully known what mr. Trump told putin behind closed doors. Im not in a position to either understand fully or talk about what happened at helsinki over to the National Security director here. To address that question. The president is still nursing his grudges with the media, Dispute Anything News Reports that he kept the queen waiting during his visit to britain last month. Im waiting. So i was about 15 minutes early, and im waiting with my wife, and thats fine. Hey, its the queen, right . We can wait. But im a little early. Honestly, folks, it was such a beautiful, beautiful visit and afternoon. But they can make anything bad, because they are the fake, fake, disgusting news. Mr. Trump again turned to the issue of immigration, this time trying to defend his past
comment that mexican immigrants are rapists and criminals. Coming down the escalator, and you remember what i said . Do you remember that . And i mentioned words, i wont even mention them tonight because there is a lot of young people here. But i mentioned words. And everybody thought it was wonderful. But then about two days later, they said did he say this . Did he say that . Guess what . What i said is peanuts compared to what turns out to be the truth. Its peanuts. Now a source familiar with discussions inside the president s legal team says deliberations over whether mr. Trump should down with Robert Mueller have been going on for months. The president is aware of all the risks and the president has been advised that talking to the Special Prosecutor would be a good thing for the institution of the presidency. Wolf, it is widely expected Rudy Giuliani will make the trip to bedminster to talk with the president about all of this. It is getting to be crunch time for making this critical
decision. Good point. Jim acosta, thank you very much. Also breaking tonight, russia is responding to the extraordinary warning from u. S. National Security Intelligence chiefs about moscows efforts to independent fear in the upcoming midterm elections here in the United States. Our Senior International correspondent Matthew Chance is working the story from moscow for us. So matthew, what are the russians saying . Well, as you might expect, wolf, the russians are pouring scorn on this idea that they had anything to do with manipulating the political environment inside the United States, particularly through social media, saying that they are expressing regret that thiss has even been made by u. S. Officials. The Foreign Ministry spokeswoman here in moscow issuing a statement saying this. The twoyear hysteria around the alleged interference in u. S. Elections which did not happen
mocks the whole political system of the United States representing democracy there as a house of cards. And so some of that language very reminiscent of the kind of language we heard a few moments ago coming from the president s of the United States. What we do know is this is just the latest installment in a whole series, longrunning series of denials by the russian government if they had anything to do with election manipulation, or manipulating the political atmosphere inside the United States. It comes, remember, as well as its emerged there has been a russian spy at the heart of the u. S. Embassy here in moscow, the russian capital. Russian officials asked about this today. She worked at the embassy for ten years. She was firely apparently after being discovered a year ago. They were asked. We have no idea what or who is being talked about, but if the americans have any data they would like to share with us, we would be very happy to share
discussing this we with them, almost with a wink. Lets look at what sources, how youve gathered your intelligence knowing full well the u. S. Diplomats here are going to do nothing of the sort, wolf. Good point as well. Matthew chance in moscow, thank you. There is more breaking news. The Special Counsels Team Questions the woman known as the Manhattan Madam, a friend of longtime trump confidante roger stone. What does this mean for the Mueller Investigation . And. And prosecutors focusing in on Paul Manaforts alleged financial crimes as witnesses testify the former Trump Campaign chairman was ocooking the books. Stay with us. Youre in the situation room. Comcast, building americas largest gigspeed network. Were following multiple breaking stories right now, including sources confirming that the Special CounselRobert Muellers investigators have questioned a woman once known as the Manhattan Madam. She is a close friend of trump confidante roger stone. Lets bring in our Political Legal and National Security experts to assess. Susan hennessey, how does this fit in, this Manhattan Madam development into the broader Russia Investigation . So this woman Kristen Davis has a longstanding relationship with roger stone. He actually was even her Campaign Strategist in a 2010 race for the new york governor, and she worked for him in 2016. But from the outside we actually have no idea how this individual might be connected to the russia story. What that tells us is there are a lot of things that Robert Mueller knows that we dont
know. So in Special Counsel filings, they have said there are multiple nonpublic lines of inquiry. Thats their way of saying there is not just facts you dont know, there are entire matters being investigated that the public doesnt know about. What does it say theyre interviewing her before they interview roger stone . Its not uncommon in these investigations to start at the edges and work your way into the bullseye. If roger stone really is the target of this investigation, what we could expect to see over time is individuals who are increasingly close to him being interviewed. Thats a way for Robert Muellers team to ensure they have the full story, a full understanding of what occurred before they finally sit down with stone. A longtime confidante of President Trumps. Could he have valuable information in this overall Russia Investigation . Susan was talking and saying you work out at the edges and you work in to people who have very Close Relationships with roger stone. Thats President Trump. He has been working with roger stone for the better part of two decades in politics and has used him as a strategist. I do think this should probably be alarming in some sense for the trump team that mueller may be interested in somebody who has such a close relationship with stone. I dont think if stone is a target, he may not be the only target in this investigation. And until we know more about this line of inquiry, i dont know that we can surmise very much. Im sure the president always hates when they get closer and closer to people who have known and worked him for such a long time, like michael cohen, allen weisenbe weisenberg. See if he wants the talk to his children or soninlaw . Those are important developments. Could stone be a key witness in all of this . Its possible. I mean, it depends on the question that investigators are trying to answer, wolf. And of course there is a lot we dont know about the direction or the directions they might be going. But roger stone of course have a great deal of information,
unique information about President Trump. Having worked with him very closely in the early stages of the campaign and before that, as an informal adviser to trump, he essentially helped him launch his career. And then they spoke throughout the campaign. So stone would have a lot of information about trump specifically. But he wasnt a part of the formal campaign infrastructure. He wasnt talking frequently with some of the other Senior Campaign staff. So it would be specifically information related to the president in this case, that he could potentially offer. I assume theyre trying to figure out if stone actually conspired, koomted, colluded, whatever word you want the use with the russians as part of this whole investigation. You know, shawn turner, what does it tell you that the mueller team itself is questioning this Manhattan Madam, this friend of roger stone instead of detailing it out to the u. S. Attorney in the Southern District of new york as theyve done with others or whats going on in the Eastern District of virginia right now. Yeah, well, i think it speaks to what we all know about Robert Mueller. He is a seasoned investigator who knows how to do this. He understands that its often the case that people around the target of investigation who are the most unlikely witnesses are people who have the most valuable information. We also knows that he has to get this right. Robert mueller is the kind of person that asks questions he already knows the answer to. I think by doing this himself and making sure his own team does it, what that tells me is he has a sense of the pick dhaer is coming together, and he knows what those various pieces are, and he is talking to her himself because he absolutely knows he has to ask the right questions in the right way to get to the information that he probably already knows exists. One thing we do know is that Robert Mueller doesnt do anything without a reason. As you were going to say . I was just going say that the other relationship of course is one between roger stone and Paul Manafort. They have had regulations going back too. Obviously the current Paul Manafort case is not we know tied directly to the notion of russian collusion. But it is another nexus of relations that exists. What has jumped out in the first few days of the Paul Manafort trial . I think the remarkable thing is just the strength of the case against manafort, the degree of witness, documentation that weve seen. I think it shows the degree to which going to trial is a hail mary here you. Really have to ask yourself, maybe Paul Manafort actually thinks hes going to be acquitted. Maybe he really believes he is innocent. You have to ask the question whether his play here is to hold the line and ultimately hope President Trump pardons him . You think thats what he is hoping for . Potentially. But donald trump in public in making statements about Paul Manafort has suggest head wasnt an important player in the campaign. Certainly hasnt suggested he maintains any feeling of loyalty toward Paul Manafort. So it does seem like a bit of a hail mary that Paul Manafort would believe that the president could potentially pardon him. But if he has this menu of bad choices in front of him, maybe thats the least bad among them. He did suggest the other day, the president , that manafort was
being treated worse than al capone. Shea bit player in the campaign with this, nothing to do with russia, but cant stop Watching Coverage of the manafort trial. I compare to al capone and say he has been treated unfairly. The president has been a little inconsistent when talking about manafort. We know hes completely consumed by the coverage of this trial. I cant think of another explanation other than Paul Manafort is waiting for a pardon because imagine the maximum pressure thats on him right now, and he has been remaining steadfast. So far. Well see what happens. Stick around. There is more were watching. Well take a quick break. Well be right back. Time. Tap one little bumper and up go your rates. What good is your insurance if you get punished for using it . News flash nobodys perfect. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. Switch and you could save 782 on home and auto insurance. Call for a free quote today. Liberty mutual insurance. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Get more out of your water. Get zerowater. So fa
were back with our political and National Security experts. A big deal at the white house yesterday. All the top National Security intelligence officials, they were there. They spoke about what russia did in 2016, what theyre doing right now looking ahead to the midterm elections. It was a powerful statement, very coordinated. Then a couple hours later, the president spoke at a big political rally for more than an hour in pennsylvania and said this. Now were being hindered by the russian hoax. Its a hoax, okay . Ill tell you what. Russias very unhappy that trump won. Even though putin said that they wanted trump to win. It was a very, very totally different attack that the
leadership of the National Intelligence community gave than what the president said. He didnt even refer to what they said earlier in the day. This must be the rare occasion when President Trump was tuned in to television, because that. The was on every channel streaming live for the American People, but the president didnt get the message. Its kind of amazing to think about. And at the same time, that briefing couldnt have happened without the president s endorsement in some way. They couldnt have just gone out there and given the message that they did and the way that they did without some level of buyin from the president. And so on the one hand, he wanted people to hear that from his intelligence chiefs. But on the other hand, goes out and then completely contradicts the message in addition to not supporting the message himself either in person or on twitter or some of the other vehicles he has to communicate with people. And the expression that said the buck stops with the National Security team. Because he clearly is hoping that by putting out that show of force, that thats going to give
him cover that hes dealing with the issue, but that he can go off and still say the investigation into exactly the kind of activity that the National Security officials are trying to prevent is a hoax. You cant have it both ways and the president is trying to do so. The real concern here is the fact that the president and his National Security team are sending two completely diametrically opposed messages to the american public. And the question who do you believe. Some of the president s supporters tell us Dont Look Hat the president says. Look hat the president does. That leads us to think should we actually listen to the president s team who are actually telling us something completely opposite from what the president does. They really need to work on getting this message coordinated because its unfair to the American People. They seem to be talking to the american public, the leadership of the National Security team here in washington. And the president still seems to be talking to putin. Exactly. And you to think about what message Vladimir Putin might be receiving. He got tremendous payoff from his last round of election interference. We now have reports that theyre
at it again. Whenever youre talking about deterrents, changing the calculation of your adversaries. If you were Vladimir Putin who by all accounts is a rational actor, would you be saying this is the commander in chief who is going to take strong punitive action if i engage in this behavior again or would you think he has given me a wink, and i can get away with pretty much whatever interto. I want to play a speech for you susan. This is a speech shortly after inauguration before a joint session of congress. Listen to what he said. According to data provided by the Department Of Justice, the vast majority of individuals convicted of terrorism and terrorismrelated offenses since 9 11 came here from outside of our country. But your colleague benjamin witnesses over at law fair, he did some research. He filed a Freedom Of Information Request with the Justice Department for information to back up that assertion, that claim by the president. He said he received a response that said no responsive records were located. Tell us why this is significant. Its significant because this is evidence that the president of the United States stood in front of congress and lied about an important National Security issue, and that is the Department Of Justice saying essentially confirming that, right . The president said that he had been provided data to back up his this assertion. Now anyone who works in this field understood that that wasnt true, understood the Public Record from the beginning. But there is this temptation with donald trump to just move on from the lies, right . He says it. It gets a little bit of coverage, and then sort of doing the spade work of proving it, of getting the Department Of Justice to actually admit that it couldnt have shared the data with him because the data didnt exist in the first place takes a lot of time and resources, but it still is important to develop that factual record to show that the president is lying. Stand by, everybody. There is more news were following. Is kim jongun living up to the agreements he made with trump . Very, very differing views that are emerging within the trump administration. The president saying one thing and the secretary of state
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kim. I got along great. Thats a good thing, not a bad thing, by the way. Reporter but there is still no Denuclearization Agreement and pompeo revealing days ago, kim is holding on to his vital weapons capabilities. Yes, they continue to produce phfissile material. What kim is doing so far is not seen as significant by u. S. Intelligence. Test tunnels were blown up, but the u. S. Believes the explosions were superficial and the tunnels could be rebuilt. Some destruction of facilities seen in commercial Satellite Imagery is at a largely out of date launch station. The worry, kim is using the nearly two months since singapore to keep building warheads and missiles capable of attacking the u. S. , and the concern is kim will never declare the full scope of it all. Now, eavesdropping and intercepting kims Communications May be the only way to learn the truth, some officials say. Trump has applauded the return of 55 boxes of remains presumed to be americans killed in the war, tweeting, thank you to chairman kim jongun for keeping your word. And Vice President mike pence used the return of remains as a key marker. We see today as tangible progress in our efforts to achieve peace on the korean peninsula. Reporter but it may take years to identify all of the remains returned and momentum towards denuclearization could be slowing. One of north koreas game plans has always been to stretch out the game, hoping for the clock to run out. In this case, the longer the negotiations drag on, the less resolve the u. S. May have. Its been just about one year since President Trumps famous fire and fury remarks. Now, u. S. Troops might be headed back to north korea to help search for more u. S. War remains. And if they go, their security will be provided by north korean
troops. Wolf . Lets not forget, barbara, that on june 13th, right after the summit in singapore with kim jongun, the president tweeted this. Let me put it up there. He said, just landed a long trip, but everyone can now feel much safer than the day i took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from north korea. So what he said then clearly in contrast to what pompeo and others are saying right now. Still a Nuclear Threat from north korea. Barbara starr, thank you very much. Coming up, the breaking news. Robert muellers Team Interviews the woman who earned notoriety as the socalled Manhattan Madame. The Special Counsel apparently wants to know about her ties to roger stone. Is mueller building a case against the longtime trump ally . Insured by United HealthcareInsurance Company might be the right choice for you. A free Decision Guide is a great place to start. Call today to request yours. So what makes an aarp Medicare Supplement plan unique . Well, these are the only Medicare Supplement plans endorsed by aarp and thats because they meet aarps high standards of quality and service. Youre also getting the great features that any Medicare Supplement plan provides. For example, with any Medicare Supplement plan you may choose any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. You can even visit a specialist. With this type of plan, there are no networks or referrals needed. Also, a Medicare Supplement plan goes with you when you travel anywhere in the u. S. A free Decision Guide will provide a breakdown of aarp Medicare Supplement plans, and help you determine the plan that works best
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