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With the proposal. The damage is done, as an outraged u. S. Senate votes 980 to reject it. And the evidence, the former director of National Intelligence says donald trump was told before his inauguration that putin personally ordered attacks on the u. S. Election. Now the exintel chief says i wonder if the russians have something on him. Im wolf blitzer. You are in the situation room. This is cnn breaking news. Breaking news, the white house says discussions are now underway for a second summit and that President Trump is taking steps to invite russian president Vladimir Putin to washington this fall. That comes as there is still lots of confusion about the first summit three days ago. The director of National Intelligence says even he doesnt know what happened behind closed doors and the u. S. Senate votes 980 to reject a russian proposal to interrogate americans. Ill speak with congressman of the intelligence and judiciary committees. Our correspondents and specialists are standing by with full coverage. Lets begin with jeff zeleny. There are plans for a second summit even amid the mass rush to clean up the president s comments from the first vsummit that announcement is the biggest sign yet that the president is doubling down on his new relationship with the russian president not acknowledging mistakes made earlier in the week which has shaped the narrative from the helsinki summit. Extraordinary comments from the top spy chief. He was told about it on stage in aspen at a Security Forum. Before that he said he knew nothing about it. The u. S. Intelligence chief saying tonight he had to correct President Trumps incorrect claim russia had no role in attacking american democracy. It was important to take that stand on behalf of the Intelligence Community and the American People. Reporter the president s hand picked director of National Intelligence said american leaders must speak forcefully about russias ongoing threat to u. S. Elections. It is undeniable that the russians are taking the lead on this. Basically they are the ones that are trying to undermine our basic values and divide us with our allies. They are the ones that are trying to wreak havoc over our election process. We need to call them out on that. Reporter at a Security Forum in aspen coats said it was a mistake for trump to meet privately with Vladimir Putin. If he asked me if that ought to be conducted i would have suggested a different way, but thats not my role. Reporter the extraordinary comments came as trump invited putin to the white house for a second meeting amid another major reversal. Trump saying he disagrees with putins request for the russian government to interrogate americans. He changed his tune after a loud bipartisan back lash only three days after he praised putins idea. What he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators with respect to the 12 people. I think that is an incredible offer. Reporter what the president twice called incredible monday was being considered yesterday. The president will meet with his team and let you know. Reporter as the state department rejected the idea. The overall assertions that have come out of the russian government are absolutely absurd, the fact that they want to question 11 american citizens. Reporter for the Third Straight day the west wing scrambled to clean up, clarify and correct contradicting aspects. The white house pulled the plug on allowing moscow to question certain americans including Michael Mcfaul and bill brouder who lobbied the u. S. Government to impose new sanctions. Browder said putin wants to kill him. I believe im putins number one foreign enemy and sometimes people have scoffed at that. I think the fact that putin brought it up pretty much validates my assertion. Reporter sanders says it is a proposal that was made in sincerity by president putin. The Senate Voting 980 on a resolution to send the white house a message. That is neither the policy nor the practice of the United States to submit our citizens let alone our ambassador to the interrogation of a foreign adversary. Reporter the president taking no responsibility for the diplomatic debacle the summit has become instead placing blame on a familiar target. The Fake News Media wants so badly to see a confrontation with russia. They are pushing so hard and hate the fact that i will probably have a Good Relationship with putin. In moscow putin was singing a strikingly similar tune. Translator we see that there are forces in the United States that are prepared to casually sacrifice russia u. S. Relations to sacrifice them for their ambitions in the course of an internal political battle. Reporter Time Magazine making the point on its cover showing the faces of the two leaders morphing into one. As for that private oneonone meeting between the two president s earlier this week, u. S. Officials say they still do not have a good sense of what they talked about for more than two hours. The intelligence chief again dan coats saying he does not know exactly what the discussion was. If he was to advise the president he wouldnt have done. Wolf, also extraordinary this evening when he was asked if he has plans to resign this was his answer to andrea mitchell. He said this, so long as i have the ability to seek the truth and speak the truth i am on board. Wolf, that, of course, will be up to the president. I cannot recall a top adviser like this speaking so bluntly and honestly and frankly during his time in office. Well see what the president has to say to this. Many moving developments amid yet another day of cleanup. Its hard to believe that the director of National Intelligence still three days later doesnt know what was discussed in that two hour meeting between president s trump and putin. Jeff zeleny at the white house, thanks very much. As the white house scurried to clean up the senate voted 980 to reject the proposal. Lets go to our senior Congressional Correspondent monita rajpal. A lot of outrage on this. Criticism has been building all week long after the president s summit with Vladimir Putin this week. Republicans and democrats joining in the chorus of criticism about the president s comments keeping open that option yesterday of allowing americans to be questioned by russians. When i had a chance to ask members of congress about this they pushed back very strongly foreshadowing that 980 vote that occurred on the floor of the senate expressing the opposition to any idea like this coming just moments after the white house reversed course and said that they no longer were open to that idea. When i asked senator Lindsey Graham about the idea this is what he said. Naive and absurd. There is no rule of law in russia. There is the rule of putin. The courts are not independent. The Intelligence Services are there for one purpose, to keep him in power. I cant imagine a scenario where it would be in our National Interest to allow russia to have access to our Intelligence Community or people defending our nation. Are you concerned that the president may have agreed to a whole host of issues that you dont know about in this private meeting in. . We are not russia. So there are limitations to what even the executive branch can do without a congress. I think you will see a variety of different views. Im not worried about what the conversations the president had in private with putin. Im worried about what the actions are going to be. Republicans did provide a little bit of cover for the white house. There were two efforts, one by Bernie Sanders and one bipartisan effort to issue a resolution to have the Senate Approve a nonbinding resolution expressing concerns about what happened in russia, calling for the full implementation of sanctions that have not been implemented. The president is cooperating with the mueller probe. Republicans blocked those nonbinding measures from Going Forward not allowing the senate to pass that. The republicans are opposing the idea demanded by democrats to call for the translator who was at the putin trump meeting to testify on capitol hill or turn over the notes to lawmakers. They say that is a precedent they dont want to set. Joining us now democratic congressman of california, a member of the intelligence and judiciary committees. Thank you for coming in. You just heard our reporting dan coats says he didnt know about this second summit that the president has planned with putin in the fall over at the white house, he didnt know about it until a reporter asked him about it. What does that say to you that the director of National Intelligence has to learn about a second summit in the works now with putin from the news media . It tells me we are more at risk at this upcoming mid term election than we were before because our leader, the president , is not on the same page with the person tasked with protecting us. Russia attacked our democracy this past election. When your home is burglarized you dont invite the burglar to dinner. You put in a Home Security system. We should not be inviting president putin to dinner at the white house, to have a visit at the white house especially during the season of our mid term elections. It is incumbent that we are not helpless. We have a congress that can stand up to this president. Today in the House Intelligence Committee we had an open hearing. Ranking member shif and i made a motion to bring a translator in to test the republicans on the committee. Many made statements or tweets to see if they are sincere about that. They voted that down along party lines. We have to keep testing them to see what they are willing to do to protect our country. The House Intelligence Committee is acrimonious along party lines. If it werent shocking enough that he has to learn about a second summit from the news media, maybe even more shocking that three days after the first summit, the meeting between president s putin and trump, he doesnt know really what happened in that meeting. That is why it is so important to hear from the translator which i acknowledge is an extraordinary measure. This president has a last year when russians were in the oval office he divulged National Security secrets. We are learning he negotiated the possibility of turning over for interrogation a former u. S. Ambassador. I think the American People at least our Intelligence Community should know whether he made secret deals with putin. Listen to how the director of National Intelligence discussed his not knowing what happened in that first summit. I dont know what happened in that meeting. I think as time goes by and the president has mentioned some things that happened in that meeting i think we will learn more, but that is the president s prerogative. If he had asked me how that ought to be conducted i would have suggested a different way, but thats not my role. Thats not my job. So it is what it is. He also said if that were not enough last year when the president met with the outgoing Russian Ambassador in washington he didnt know about that meeting going into that meeting. He said if he would have known he would have thought it was a bad idea. He is the director of National Intelligence. He is supposed to know about this stuff. That is an honest hoosier right there. The problem is if he does not have directives, if Christopher Wray does not have directives we are only as safe as the congress is willing to be by standing up to the president. Today on the house floor nice tweets i saw, republicans voted to completely zero out the Election Security grants that just last year were funded at 300 million. If the director of National Intelligence is out of the loop on some of these so sensitive National Security related issues where does that leave u. S. National security . We are not helpless so what we can do is start to require that the president turn over any conversations he has had with people like putin to the National Security you need the republican majority in the house to get along with you on that. I hope they see that this is a five alarm fire right now. We need every hand on the hose to put it out. We are so vulnerable if the president is striking side deals and inviting the president to our country and everyone who is responsible for protecting us is out of the loop. Let me get your reaction to a truly shocking tweet earlier this morning from the president. He tweeted this. I will put a little of it up on the screen. The summit with russia was a Great Success except with the real enemy of the people, the Fake News Media. So its not russia that is the real enemy of the American People, its what he calls the Fake News Media that is the real enemy of the American People. Your reaction. The media is the only reason we have learned about so many of these side deals the president has struck with russia, the fact that he had russians in the oval office and kicked out his own team and let russian photographers photograph him. The media is the reason the American People know about concerning contacts the president has had with russia. God bless the free media. They asked tougher questions of Vladimir Putin than the president did when they were both there in helsinki. I will stand with the media if i have to decide who is the bigger patriot. More breaking news, President Trump moves to invite president putin to washington for a second summit as damage control efforts continue after the first summit. And as the white house reverses itself on russias offer to interrogate americans the Homeland Security chief does a reversal of her own about russias election attempts. And they greeted me as they always do. Sergeant baker, how are you . They took care of everything a to z. 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Reporter wolf, by now she should have this answer down pat but she struggled as she was asked here at the aspen Security Forum whether she saw evidence that the russians were working in favor of candidate donald trump during the 2016 meddling in the election. Here is what she had to say. I havent seen any evidence that the attempts to interfere in our election infrastructure was to favor a particular political party. The Intelligence Community did have that finding. Their finding was that it was in an effort to favor the president. It was in an effort to attack certain Political Parties that we know about, right, more than others. So i think we will continue to look and see what that means and be prepared for the next time. Reporter wolf, that is not the first time that she struggled with that question. I talked to people close to her that after her interview and they told me that essentially what she was referring to was the infrastructure, the election infrastructure. If you notice her comments, it really contradicts with what the Intelligence Community found in their assessment in early 2017. I will read a part of it to you. It says we also assess that putin and the russian government aspired to help election chances when possible by discrediting secretary clinton and contrasting her unfavorably to him. Jim sciutto pressed the secretary of the Homeland Security department on her answer. Take a listen to this. Are you saying you agree with not only the assessment that it was russia that interfered but that their intention was to help donald trump and disadvantage Hillary Clinton . Can you say those words very simply . I agree with the Intel Communitys assessment full stop. Any attack on our democracy whether successful or unsuccessful is unacceptable. It is an attack on our democracy. Election security is National Security. The Intel Community is made up of professionals who do this for a living, who are dedicated public servants. I absolutely believe their assessment. It is still Pretty Amazing that she refused to say flatly what the Intelligence Community says that putin and the kremlin really wanted to hurt Hillary Clinton and help donald trump in terms of the election. As you know it is not just the Intelligence Community here in the United States that is making this assessment. Reporter thats right, wolf. The senate Intelligence Community the senate Intelligence Committee issued a report in which they endorsed what the Intelligence Community said in their assessment. The Justice Department Just Announced charges in the past week against a group of russians who they believe were behind some of these attacks on the Democratic National committee and other democratic organizations. And they repeated that it was clear that the russians were trying to help donald trump get elected. Of course, we saw just a few days ago president putin himself standing right next to President Trump said that he was aware that the russian government was trying to do and obviously he knew that he was endorsing donald trump. So it is clear that anybody else who is not on the same page are really struggling with the answer there. Im really surprised that she couldnt say flatly what the entire Intelligence Community and so many others are saying. It was a very, very awkward answer that she provided. Thanks very much for that report. There is more breaking news. The white house now says talks are underway for a second summit. President trump is moving to invite russias president putin to the white house but damage control is still underway just days after the first summit. And the director of National Intelligence is caught unaware by news of yet a second summit even as he admits he doesnt know what happened during the first summit. Amazing. Stay with us here in the situation room. 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The white house says discussions are now underway for Vladimir Putin to come to the white house this fall for another summit meeting with President Trump. This comes despite the administrations ongoing efforts to clean up and clarify what happened earlier this week when president s trump and putin met in helsinki. The u. S. Director of National Intelligence was visibly surprised when he learned about the second summit when sitting for a live interview. We have some breaking news. The white house has announced on twitter that Vladimir Putin is coming to the white house in the fall. Say that again. Vladimir putin did i hear you . Yeah. Okay. Thats going to be special. Lets get some analysis from our political and legal experts. Dana bash, he is a very serious and smart senate, top spy in the United States. He doesnt know . How is that possible that the president of the United States is inviting putin for a second summit in a couple of months in the fall over at the white house . Because the president he works for is donald trump, that is the reason, for the same reason that this president stood next to Vladimir Putin and threw that director of National Intelligence under the bus. He later cleaned it up but it doesnt erase the unfortunate theater of that moment in helsinki. He also said that he didnt kno whole host of other things that he should have known. He ended up leaking things from that meeting. You think you want your director of National Intelligence to have a sigh in whethay. More shocking is the fact that she said publhe said publi doesnt know what happened in the first summit. It is kind of six one way and half dozen the other in terms of figuring out which is the bigger news. The fact that he doesnt know that the russian president has been invited to the u. S. Is big. The fact that he still has no read out of a summit that happened three days ago between the russian president and the president of the United States i actually think may be a bigger deal. They both suggest the same thing. There is a lack of communication, a total communication break down between the Intelligence Community and the white house. Is that surprising . No particularly given donald trump runs the Intelligence Community down every chance he gets. Let me play the clip for you and then we will discuss. I dont know what happened in that meeting. I think as time goes by and the president has mentioned some things that happened in that meeting i think we will learn more. That is the president s prerogative. If you had asked me how that ought to be conducted i would have suggested a different way. But thats not my role. Thats not my job. It is what it is. But his role and job is to know what is going on. He is the director of National Intelligence. He would have recommended that there be note takers, u. S. Ambassador to russia, secretary of state, National Security adviser participating as simply not just a u. S. Translator. It is what it is. That solves it. It is i feel bad for him today because dan coats put on the hot seat on some very, very volatile issues right now. A couple of things and just to highlight again that struck out to me i would have suggested it in a different way meaning he is not taking my advice. Its not me. Then he goes on to say it is what it is meaning what the hell can i do about this . What i do think is really telling and deeply disturbing and i havent heard this yet, the timing of this. That tweet was put out while he was on stage at aspen. Everybody knows in the white house you know where your people are. They knew he was on stage. He was going to get that questioning. You have to wonder why did the chief of staff allow it to happen . Why did Sarah Huckabee sanders allow it to happen . Are they testing coats . He has been pretty tested already. I am amazed. This is not a guy who is a trump guy who he plucked he retired once from indiana and came back and won again. He is a serious guy who doesnt really need this. I will throw John Huntsman in there, these are serious people who i dont understand at what point do you reach a breaking point. These are not people who need these jobs or have been made by donald trump so they owe him a loyalty. The only explanation i have, these people are patriots and they think that if they were to leave the country could be further in trouble. They stay despite the humiliation and the embarrassment that they get. That is the core of Public Service because you are not supposed to serve the president. You serve the United States of america. I completely agree the idea that you are being ham strung in your position. Its not just shock and awe. I think you saw what it is like every time the president tweets. Everyones reaction is the same of okay. I think when that happens its not just about an ego boost. It is about your main job is to inform the president and he wont ask for a suggestion of what to do let alone listen to it. If you are wondering why there is back and forth between the lawyers and personal attorneys and the mueller probe, do you want that surprise if his Kitchen Cabinet members cannot get the president to bend his ear to their thoughtful insight . That is such an important point. This isnt about who is allowed in the room and about hurt feelings. Its about this position and this person being there to help the president. They are supposed to coordinate for a reason because they all are supposed to Work Together to benefit one another and ultim e ultimately benefit the country. Its not about bruised egos but about a system that is in place in order to prevent things like what happened in helsinki. I give dan coats a lot of credit for being as honest and as blunt as he was during that exchange earlier in the day. There is more news we are following. We are getting new details about what President Trump learned before he was inaugure rated about Vladimir Putins role in the russian interference. The director of National Intelligence caught unaware by news of a second summit as he admits he doesnt know what happened during the first summit. How can we say when you book direct at choicehotels. Com you always get the lowest price on our rooms, guaranteed . Lets say it in a really low voice. Carl . Lowest price, guaranteed. Just stick with badda book. Badda boom. Book now at choicehotels. Com just for a shot. With Neulasta Onpro patients get their dayr back to be with family, or just to sleep in. Strong chemo can put you at risk of serious infection. In a key study neulasta reduced the risk of infection from 17 to 1 , a 94 decrease. 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As we follow the white house cleanup efforts in the wake of the trump putin summit in helsinki one question that wont go away is why the president seems to give more credence to denials of interference than he does to the conclusion of the u. S. Intelligence community. New york times reports that two weeks before his inauguruation President Trump was shown classified intelligence indicating that putin personally ordered cyber attacks. One of the co authors in the article is joining us right now. Excellent reporting. You wrote this article. Walk us through the major headline and what we learned in the course of your piece. So we know that january 6 trump is about to take office, all the american intelligence goes to trump tower. So they go in there armed with what they need to convince him that this was putins past. They go in with stolen emails and Text Messages that was intercepted and intelligence from our allies. They also go in with intelligence they gleaned from a human source in putins inner circle and other human sources inside the kremlin. This was a source so sensitive that many people in the white house did not know he existed. They go in and say here is what we know. These are the ways we know it. And they try to convince the president that there is real meat on the bone here. Trump according to people in the room accepted it and sort of accepted and said it could have been others and within weeks he was back at it saying i dont buy it claiming clapper and brennan were just political hacks. A lot of what we see here is that for trump the messengers have as much to do hearing now the same thing from the director of National Intelligence, the cia, mike pompeo now the secretary of state, Christopher Wray, they are telling him exactly what the Obama Administration National Security team told him. They are. I think for the president it looks like it suits whatever his political needs are at the moment. Same with Vladimir Putin, he says i dont see why not . There are any number of reasons he seems to think there is a relationship to build here. There are all kinds of theories of whether the russians have compromises on him or not. He comes home to an outcry and then back tracks, but back tracks only so far. It is hard to tell, but the intelligence has been solid. Everything has been unanimous from the people appointed under obama and by trump himself. And the one not part of the unanimous team is the president of the United States who has a lot of doubts about all of this. Great reporting, thanks very much. Coming up a closer look at the whistleblower Vladimir Putin specifically mentioned during the summit. Why is he now a target for russian interrogation . For your heart. Ething or joints. But do you take something for your brain. 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Earlier today, just days after President Trump used the term inquestionabi incredible offer to describe the white house now says the president disagrees with the idea. Monday Vladimir Putin mentioned one specific american the russians want to we. Cnns brian todd has spoken with him. Bill browder has had success targeting putin. Hes gone after his shady money, his friendfriends. Putin calls browder a criminal and thief. Browder calls Vladimir Putin a soci sociopath with a vendetta. Putin proposed that russian officials should be able toll interrogate browder, an idea President Trump now says he disagrees with. Translator Business Associates of mr. Browder have earned over 1. 5 billion in russia. They never paid any taxes and yet the money escapes the country. Reporter an accusation browder denies. Putin was straight faced when he accused of browder of being behind the death of his own lawyer. Translator i believe browder is his name. Reporter behind the dead pan tones, there is by most accounts a seething hatred that Vladimir Putin has for the american born financier who is now a british citizen. Browder spoke about that. The russian government has made numerous Death Threats against me. They want to kill me. Theyd like to kidnap me, have me arrested. Reporter putin hates browder because he spear headed the magnitsky act. I have found his achilles heel. Ive created a Legal Mechanism to seize that money. He feels personally aggrieved and he has a vendetta against me. Reporter analysts say he has struck a nerve with putin that few other enemies have, a threat to the roots of his power. If individual members of h starts to open the question to them of whether or not Vladimir Putin can in the longterm guarantee their asset. Is he the right man to secure the operations . Reporter the battle goes back to the mid 2000s when browder was a Hedge Fund Manager in russia. He hired a russian lawyer named sergei magnitsky, who exposed a scheme. Magnitsky was arrested and jailed and later died in russian custody under suspicious circumstances. Sergei magnitsky is dead. He suffered terribly and is dead because he was my lawyer. Reporter he has made it his lifes mission to expose putins corruption which he believes has made putin the richest in the world. Ie estimate his net worth to be about 200. Reporter Vladimir Putin has called browders assertion that putin has amassed great personal wealth through corruption, quote, garbage. How his browder protect himself . He believes he could be targeted at any time by putin for assassination. When we interviewed him in washington, he had two body guard who never left his side. He told us he does not spend his time quaking and living in fear. Coming up, the breaking news. New details emerging now about Vladimir Putin to come here to washington this fall for a second summit with President Trump. 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Tonight, the president still struggling to clean up the mess from their first meeting in helsinki. Not so incredible. After mr. Trump left the door open to letting russia interrogate americans, the white house now says he disagrees with the offer he found so intriguing and even incredible three days ago. Putins talk, the Russian Military is putting on video of mus nuclear and other weapon that is the russian leader has touted as invincible. Why is he going there just days after the helsinki summit . Tax summit. New calls for the president to release his tax returns as critics wonder if russia has any financial dirt on him. Zbh we want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world. Iep wolf blitzer. Yo