Oh, say can you see . Friends of oprah rwinfrey tell cnn shes actively thinking about running for president in 2020. Few people who saw her rousing speech at the Golden Globes have any doubts. Whats the Trump White House saying about all of this . Talking peace, south korean negotiators will be leaving for talks with the North Koreans for the first time in years. Will it affect kim jonguns missile and Nuclear Weapons program and the skyhigh tensions right now on the Korean Peninsula. Im wolf blitzer and youre in the situation room. This is cnn breaking news. Were following breaking news. Sources with knowledge of the matter tell cnn lawyers for President Trump that they are anticipating a request for the president to talk to special Counsel Robert Mueller. His legal team is discussing the parameters of the interview. The president is eager for the investigation to end and as recently as this weekend insisted once again he did not commit any crime. The president just wrapped up a speech in nashville, touting the tax cuts just passed by the republican congress. Behind the scenes, the president s team is scrambling to push back on new questions about his fitness for office and defending the president s weekend boast that hes a very stable genius. Were also following the president ial buzz generated by Oprah Winfreys rousing speech at last nights golden globe awards. Today, two of oprahs Close Friends tell cnn shes actively thinking about running for president of the United States. Were also following important breaking news on the Korean Peninsula. Any moment now, south korean negotiators will be heading for the first highlevel negotiations with north korea in more than two years. The talks are likely to focus on a possible invitation for north korean athletes to compete in next months winter Olympic Games just across the border in south korea. But the talks come as tensions remain very high because of kim jonguns missile and Nuclear Weapons programs. Democratic congressman Joaquin Castro, a member of the house intelligence and Foreign Affairs committees, hes standing by to take our questions. And our correspondents, analysts and specialists, they are standing by will full coverage of the days top stories. But lets begin with the breaking news on special counsel Robert Muellers investigation on the possibility he may talk to President Trump. Our justice correspondent pamela brown is with us. Our cnn senior political analyst gloria borger, shes with us. Both have been working their sources. Pamela, what do we know about muellers team and the talks, potential talks with the president s lawyers and eventually maybe with the president . Well, wolf, sources tell us that the president s lawyers are anticipatings anticipating a request to interview the president from special Counsel Robert Mueller and there have been internal discussions about settling the parameters for any such interview, what the possible interview might look like. Our sources tell us the matter was broached in a previous meeting between both sides, the president s lawyers and special Counsel Robert Mueller but there was nothing definitive. Were told there were no substantive discussions or active negotiations going on. In fact, were told that that will likely take place at a later date when both sides meet. But the expectation, wolf, has been for months now that Robert Mueller would not wrap up his investigation without putting in a request to interview the president. So this preparation has been going on for quite awhile, but now, given where things stand in the investigation, the fact that white house witness interviews have wrapped up, according to ty cobb, white house special counsel, and the fact that its been broached in a previous meeting, the feeling is this could happen sooner rather than later. It would be significant, of course. It would be very, very significant. Not every day a prosecutor, a special counsel, gets to speak with the president of the United States. Gloria, how might an interview along these lines take place and what kind of limits could white house lawyers presumably try to impose on the nature of the q a . As many limits as they possibly can, wolf. You know, what theyre doing is theyre looking at how previous administrations have handled kind of similar requests and what theyre trying to do is find out, first of all, whether he needs to testify under oath at all. Would his testimony be recorded . Could he potentially answer questions in writing the way Ronald Reagan did with irancontra . What they dont want to do is put the president in any kind of jeopardy. There his attorneys after all. And allow him to participate in any kind of openended fishing expedition, they believe that would not serve their client well. Yeah, this is air very, very sensitive matter and theyre going to look at all the other experiences when president s have been forced to testify on these issues. I want both of you to stand by. A lot of news going on. President trump just wrapped up a speech in nashville, tennessee, touting his accomplishments, including the recently passed tax cuts. Behind the scenes, his team is trying to defend his fitness for office and explain his tweet over the weekend claiming hes, quote, a very stable genius. Lets go to our senior White House Correspondent jim acosta. Jim, what are you hearing . Reporter jim, President Trump trying to get back on message today, touting his economic message after spending the last few days defending his own mental acuity. The president s unusual claim, and you just mentioned it, that hes a very stable genius, has demonstrated how too much damage control can cause some damage. At a speech to farmers in nashville, President Trump sounded as if he was summing up his first year in office as pure genius. Oh, are you happy you voted for me. You are so lucky that i gave you that privilege. Reporter the president was trying to steer his white house back on track after a week of responding to revelationings from the book fire and fury that raised questions about mr. Trumps Mental Fitness. Revelations that prompted this tweet over the weekend. I went from very successful businessman to top tv star to president of the United States on my first try. I think that would qualify as not smart but genius. And a very stable genius at that. Why did you feel the need to tweet about that this morning . Well, only because i went to the best colleges or college. I went to a i had a situation where i was a very excellent student. Came out and made billions and billions of dollars. Became one of the top business people. Went to television and for ten years was a tremendous success, as you probably have heard. Ran for president one time and won. Reporter even fellow republicans are having fun with that. Do do you think hes like really smart and a stable genius . I think this, if he doesnt call himself a genius, nobody else will. So [ laughter ] that was good. Reporter but its not laughing matter at the white house. The only person who has called themselves a genius in the last week is a president. Which happens to be a true statement. Reporter where top officials are pushing back on any notion that the president has lost a step. Im there once a week and im there for a day with white house meetings and everything. No one questions the stability of the president. Reporter but there are questions about the president s political future as democrats are already swooning over the prospect of Oprah Winfrey in 2020 after her speech at the Golden Globes. What i know for sure is that speaking your truth is the most powerful tool we all have. Reporter the white house response, bring it on, oprah. We welcome the challenge. Whether it be Oprah Winfrey or anybody else. Reporter the president will likely face reelection without the services of steve bannon, despite an apology from the former chief strategist for his comment that donald trump jr. s meeting with a russian attorney was treasonous. Bannon sent in a statement, my comments were aimed at former Campaign ChairmanPaul Manafort with experience and knowledge of how the russians operate. He should have known they are duplicitous, cunning and not our friends. To reiterate, those comments were not aimed at don jr. Thats despite bannons comment to author Michael Wolff that federal investigators are going to crack don jr. Like an egg on national tv. Im very fond of steve. Ive gotten very fond of him. Hes been helpful and incredibly insightful. This is not true. Reporter the white house is making it clear they dont want steve bannon back either. Asked whether bannon could ever return here to the white house, a white house spokesman told them the comments about don jr. Were, quote, repugnant and grotesque, adding there appeared to be no way for steve bannon to make his way back to the white house. President has that upcoming physical exam on friday up at walter reed. The white house told reporters earlier this afternoon that that exam will not include a psychiatric component. Wolf . Jim acosta as the white house for us. Thank you very much. Joining us now, Joaquin Castro of texas. Hes a member of the Foreign Affairs and intelligence committees. Congressman, thanks for joining us. Thank you for having me wolf. How important from your perspective is an interview with President Trump to this whole russia investigation . Well, its going to be absolutely critical that the special counsel be able to interview donald trump on issues not only of collusion with the russians, who interfered with the 2016 election, but also on issues of money laundering, for example, and obstruction of justice. Those three very big things, among others, and so, you know, i think the nation is anxious to see when that interview takes place. How much influence should the president s legal team have in shaping the scope, the format of a potential interview along these lines . Well, you know, in law there is a back and forth between plaintiffs and defendants, for example. Parties to a suit about the conditions of a deposition, for example. So thats not extraordinary at all that they would try to negotiate on behalf of their client. And, you know, well see what comes of that. But its pretty much par for the course. What does it tell you about the state of the investigation right now, that apparently theyre getting close to wanting to interview the president . It tells me that they probably have a pretty good sense of the lay of the land at this point on all of the issues that i spoke about and theyve talked to many of the people below the president that they need to speak with and now theyre ready to talk to the principal person himself. On the senate side of the investigation, democratic senator richard blumenthal, a member of the judiciary committee, a former prosecutor himself, he predicts more charges, possibly even for jared kushner, the president s soninlaw and donald trump jr. Do you agree . Well, as you know, i cant discuss the interviews that i sat through or particular individuals who i believe may face legal liability, but based on what ive heard and seen in the interviews that have gone in front of the House Intelligence Committee, i would expect that there will be more people who are prosecuted by the special counsel. Including the president s soninlaw and the president s son . That i cant address. But it would surprise me if no one else is prosecuted. The New York Times has is now reporting new details on how the White House Counsel Don Mcgahn lobbied the attorney general Jeff Sessions against recusal. The attorney general recused himself from russia probe, as you know. And how sessions was actually looking to put out damaging information on the fbi, the former fbi director james comey. He was fired by the president. Do you think these men need to be investigated . Well, i think they should certainly be part of the house and Senate Investigations and the special counsel investigation, at least come in front of those bodies and testify about what they know regarding obstruction of justice that case. Absolutely. Over the weekend, President Trump strongly defended himself against these new questions arising from this bombshell book about his mental state. What did you make of his response . I think the unfortunate thing for the president and really for the country is that the president s responses and his tweets and the bizarre tweets seem to affirm some of the allegations in the book and i think raise questions, you know, about the issues that were brought up in that book. Give me an example of what your concern is. Well, you see those basically very erratic tweets and so i think people do wonder about his mental state, his mental condition. You know, i think youve got to be fair to a president and to an individual to not be careless about making those claims, but, again, in the book there are allegations that are troubling and when the president goes off and does five tweets in a row that seem very strange and bizarre, americans do start to wonder. Is it appropriate for democrats and others, for that matter, to question the president s Mental Fitness for the job . Not without good cause. Now, i will point out that President Trump himself tweeted about president obamas Mental Fitness when president obama was in office. So but i think americans are generally respectful of the president , whoever that is, and so i dont think it should be done without good cause but, again, some of the behavior thats been shown by this president does give americans pause and raise questions. Congressman castro, i need to take a quick break. There is a lot more we need to discuss. I want to you stick around. 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Angies boom chicka pop whole grain popcorn. Boom were bag with democratic congressman Joaquin Castro, hes on the house Foreign Affairs committee as well as the House Intelligence Committee. Congressman, i need you to stand by. There is some breaking news in the fight over immigration were covering. The Trump Administration today announcing its ending whats called temporary protected status for nearly a quarter Million People who have been in the United States for some 17 years. They came from el salvador after devastating earthquakes. They now have until late next year to go back home. All of this comes as Congress Gears up for a fight over protections for hundreds of thousands of young immigrant whos were brought to this country as children and know no other home. Lets go to our Congressional Correspondent sunlen serfaty. Sunlen, are we once again talking about the risk of a potential Government Shutdown . Reporter we are, wolf. Lawmakers are at an impasse here over daca, which has been entangled into the negotiations over a spending bill, a spending bill they have to get solved before that deadline thats taken away on january 19th. Here you have both sides entrenched in their positions. Democrats saying they wont agree to any spending bill if it doesnt address da kca and extended the protections for d. R. E. A. M. Ers. Then you have President Trump on the other side he continues toist insist that the wall he wants to build be funded. This is something he brought up with Congressional Republican leaders at camp david. Here he is this weekend. We want the wall. The wall is going to happen or were not going to have daca. We want daca to happen. We all everybody, i think i can speak for everybody. We want john cornyn from texas, we all want daca to happen, but we also want Great Security for our country. So important. I believe that mexico will pay for the wall. I have a very Good Relationship with mexico. Reporter and, of course, billing the wall and making mexico pay for it was then candidate trump, one of his Biggest Campaign promises. But for now trump is calling for u. S. Taxpayers to foot the bill, requesting from congress, wolf, 18 billion over the next ten years to potentially build that wall. Wolf . Right now there is another story that is breaking right now, sunlen. News about a new witness coming before the House Intelligence Committee in the coming days. What can you tell us . Reporter thats right, wolf. This news coming in from my colleague laura jarrett. Her reports that bruce orr, former Justice Department official, who met with the fusion gps founder and Christopher Steele here, he will have a neither meeting in front of the House Intelligence Committee on january 17th. New moves in this investigation. Again, reporting from my colleague laura jarrett, decidering to department of justice officials. All right, sunlen, thanks very much. Lets get back to democratic congressman Joaquin Castro. Whats your reaction, congressman, to the news that bruce orr, this Justice Department official who met with the fusion gps founder Glenn Simpson and Christopher Steele, the former british spy who wrote that dossier, scheduled to meet with your committee on january 17th . Well, as you know, i cant comment on the interviews until after they happen, but as i mentioned before and i know adam schiff has mentioned, there are still many witnesses, including folks at the state department, that we need to hear from in order to fully do our investigation the right way. His wife, bruce orrs wife, this Justice Department official, his wife nelly orr worked for fusion gps. Thats raising, as you know, all sorts of questions out there. What, if any, questions does it raise for you . Well, fusion gps is one of the central characters in this whole narrative and so, you know, the interview that we had with Glenn Simpson was extremely inform tifb for t informative for the committee. Very revealtory for the legal troubles President Trump may face down the road from the special counsel. So we need to hear a lot from more people to get a complete picture. Lets get to another critically important issue thats got to be resolved very soon. Would you support some funding for a physical border wall between the u. S. And mexico if it led to protecting 700,000 or 800,000 d. R. E. A. M. Ers here in the United States . I think thats going to be a tough deal for the president to make. I dont believe that we should be trading the lives of 800,000 young d. R. E. A. M. Ers for a wall across america. And as somebody that represents texas, i know that most texans do not want a wall across 1,200 miles of the texas mexico border. And so those are two issues that really should be separated. Look, republicans control the white house, the senate and the house of representatives. If they want to take a vote on the wall, they know that they can do that separately and still take another vote on the d. R. E. A. M. Act, which is the way that i think we should handle this. What if the president and the Republican Leadership say, you know, its all or nothing. Youve got to accept the wall. Pay the 18 billion for the wall. In exchange, you get to let the d. R. E. A. M. Ers stay in the United States. How would you vote on legislation like that . Of course that was the 18 billion that mexico was supposed to pay for this wall, but i would vote no, wolf. And risk making those d. R. E. A. M. Ers leave the country, is that what youre saying . Yeah, we cant support a wall. Were not going to support a wall across america. And i think that there is still an opportunity here for the president to do the right thing. For congress to do the right thing. And, remember, the American People already support daca relief by a margin of 83 . So 83 of americans believe that there should be daca relief for these kids, that they should be allowed to stay. Its not a matter of convincing the American People, its really a matter of the president and the republicans listening to the American People. Before i let you go, congressman, Cnns Brian Stelter is reporting that Oprah Winfrey is actively now thinking about running for president in 2020. I know your brother has suggested he might run as well. Whats your reaction . I think shes a very accomplished, admirable person. Somebody who has had an incredible career in broadcasting and an amazing and powerful life story and i think when it comes to 2020, the more the merrier for democrats. I think everybody who has a vision for this country and feels compelled to stand up on that stage and share that vision with americans and with democrats to compete for the nomination should get up there and do it. Do you think your brother would step aside if Oprah Winfrey throws her hat in the ring . Youre going to have to get him on shot and ask him that. Tell him hes invited, always welcome to come on our show discuss what he wants to do down the road. Joaquin castro, thanks very much for joining us. Thank you. Coming up, more on the president ial buzz right now involving Oprah Winfrey and a possible run for president in 2020 and the reaction thats generating from the Trump White House. Were also following breaking news from the Korean Peninsula where were about to see this is really important, the first highlevel direct talks between north and south korean delegations in more than two years. With adt, you can feel safe for only 49. 00. 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Is he going to insist, first of all, in an inperson, oneonone interview with the president or, you know, q a in writing . I dont think you could do this q a. You want to see how the president responds to different question and answers. Were at the end game here. The mueller team has talked to a lot of people at the periphery of the campaign and in the white house. At this point, theyre wanting answers on not only what the president says about the facts of the investigation but whether he contradictes was other interviewees have said. If he contradicts somebody, what are they going to say, we have a followup question for you in writing. Think if theyre going to do this, theyve got to do it in person. Its going to be a tough sell. Whats going to be a tough sell . To the president and the white house itself, he may not have a choice and they may decide hes going to do it the way that bill clinton did during the whitewater. Whitewater paula jones. With ken starr. With ken starr. But at the end of the day its going to be a big question about how much if the president and more importantly his attorneys and advisers want him to push back and how hard he is willing to push back. I talked to people who are arguing that the last thing in the world that President Trump should do is go and be sort of, from their perspective, the trump worlds perspective, a sitting duck to question after question after question. Just number one, given the fact that its precedent, but, number two, given the fact that its not unheard of that President Trump does doesnt stick to script. I remember, by the way, when ken starr, the independent counsel at the time, wanted to question bill clinton. They did it for four hours. Yeah. He was at the white house. They let him do it at the white house out of respect for the president , but there was a video link to the grand jury that listened to the q a. To add to danas point, unless he is sort of compelled to do so, i would be skeptical because look at what do we know about his psyche as it relates to this investigation . If you judge by every Public Statement hes made, including what we have reported that he said in private, he thinks that this is, the whole thing is a hoax and the Justice Department should be investigating Hillary Clinton more. Its hard, i think, to oh, by the way, then james comey told him three times now this is a long time ago but told him three times he was not under investigation. Its tough to go from that to, hey, we need you to come sit down inperson. He may not have a choice, but that may be the only way that you make that happen because his mind is not going to wrap around that. He believes himself to be fundamentally exonerated here. He said no collusion. No proof of collusion. We know in the New York Times interview he said it 16 times. Thats his firm belief. He keeps saying that hes not under investigation. He keeps repeating that, no collusion, but theyre also looking into obstruction of justice. Theyre also looking into money laundering. How do you conduct the conversation about that with a couple of parameters that we know already . Number one is, the president makes stuff up. They miked trump tower. Actually, the fbi director said they didnt. My point is when you go into a written conversation with the president and he provides an answer, for example, about his financial relationship with russia that doesnt correspond with what youve learned elsewhere in the investigation you cant follow up. What do you say . You know Robert Mueller, you worked to Robert Mueller, the special counsel. For 4 1 2 years. What kind of format do you think he wants, remembering that this is the president . He wants facts. The best way you can uncover facts is in a conversation with the president. Hes saying how do i get in front of microphones and say i conducted an investigation about interference in the election but not talk to the man who conducted the election. How did you do that . Did you talk to the president or not. The answer might be no. What do you say, he wasnt relevant to the investigation. The one thing that we should keep in mind is that the president doesnt have experience before this, you know, this era being a politician, but he does have experience being deposed. During earlier lawsuits. He was involved in many a lawsuit. Lots of litigation throughout his life in the business world. So he actually does have experience. He didnt know there is no way he had the emotional sort of baggage that he has that you were talking about, chris, with regard to this issue which he believes is at the end of the day questioning his legitimacy as president and sort of everybody around him says its hard for him to see it any other way, but that might be a reason for the president to have enough confidence that he might tell the advisers or legal experts around him who are saying dont do this, you know what, i can handle it. One thing that ill add to danas point, he has been deposed before, and if you go back and read some of that information has become public. If you go back and read it, some of those times the donald trump deposed donald trump is a stark contrast. Exactly. Weve learned a lot of things about donald trump and his dealings from these depositions, which just as a counterpoint, is probably another reason why he wouldnt want to do it, solely because it he is this is not a campaign rally. This is not the speech that we saw in nashville that he gave earlier today. He can say whatever he likes. We can fact check it but he can say what he likes. This not that. In the past he has been, to phils point, i dont want to say backed into a corner but forced to confront directly, well, youre saying this and you said that. Those two things are directly contradictory. How do you explain. He has struggled, as any of us, he has struggled to do that. Its one thing if you tell an untruth or lie before a civil deposition in a lawsuit over the years, but if you lie to Robert Mueller in a deposition along these lines, a q a, thats a thats a federal crime. To danas point, too, he hadnt been the president of the United States before. The stakes are immeasurably higher. Everybody stand by. Other information coming into the situation room as we speak. Well be right back. Wondering, what if . I let go of all those feelings. Because i am cured with harvoni. 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But these negotiations, which are not obviously directly related to keeping the government open, are real and the white house, there is going to be a big meeting tomorrow with not just republicans on immigration who went down to meet with the president last week but with democrats as well. Its going be a big room of people. I dont really anticipate them getting into the nittygritty of the things that really divide them, like how to really deal with Border Security and how to deal with things like what they call chain migration. How much should citizens be allowed to bring members of their family into this country . Those are some of the sticking points im told are going on. But these negotiations are real and the big question Going Forward in the next, as you said, just week or two, is how much the democrats are going to be willing to give and how much the president is going to be willing to give, particularly at a time where he is at war with steve bannon, who was kind of the had been until now the patron saint of the anything that allows for citizenship is amnesty line. I think they go the if they cant get a deal, they go kick the can down the road. What weve seen is essentially shortterm deal, shortterm deal, shortterm deal, they could potentially two weeks at a time or whatever. Thats what were in right now. Right. Were in the midst of that. Trump in nashville today talking to a formerarmers group, sayin were going to build that wall. Im with dana, republicans would be crazy to do this. The potential for a Government Shutdown over funding on a wall that donald trump promised during the campaign trust me, not me, him, would be paid for by mexico. I mean, this is the problem hes asked congress for 18 billion. And the case is, well, mexico will pay for i laugh because its not going to happen. Mexico will pay for it at some later date, but that is the nub on which some, not all, because the daca debate is real, but some of this shutdown talk. Which if you are a republican who is up in a vulnerable seat youre thinking, golly, this is a Government Shutdown is a disaster but its because the president of the United States, who is a member of our party, promised that mexico would be paying for this and now we are we are having to figure out a way to at least get some funding for it. U. S. Taxpayers to pay for it. Over the weekend, the president said in some form mexico will pay for it. Its a National Security issue, the president keeps saying. How do you see it . I dont see it as a National Security issue. If you talk to Border Security professionals, and i have, theyll tell you if you look at standard crossing points in major cities, the likelihood an immigrant will come through a major crossing point versus trying to cross in the middle of the desert is much more significant. In america, weve lost the sense of compromise. If you want to have a real conversation about this, there is a capability to use sensors and droned in ungoverned space as cross the american border. Why do we need a wall . Democrats cant talk about this, republicans cant, so american taxpayers say maybe we need a shutdown. I dont know. Look, a shutdown politically speaking, given that donald trump is at 37 ns in a gallup weekly tracking poll, given historical midterm trends that push hard against the president s party, a shutdown would be a political the only way it would happen is if democrats really wanted to prove the point and they withheld votes to keep the government running. 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Only moments ago south korean negotiators departed for their first high level peace talks with north korea in years. Its a very significant moment. Potentially as south korea prepares to host the winter Olympic Games next month. Frank todd is reporting on these late breaking developments. Reporter anticipation builds tonight as diplomats from north and south korea head to the socalled peace house in the dmz for their first facetoface talks in two years. For the South Koreans the motive is to ensure a peaceful Winter Olympics next month amid spiking tensions and fears of war. So why is kim jongun ready to talk now . In the short term if he could get some money or some positive coverage, that would be great. But in the longer term the consistent goal, i think, is to really drive a wedge between seoul and washington. Reporter for the calculating dictator in pyongyang this is an ideal time to talk and take advantage of south koreas determination to pull off a troubled free olympics. The olympics he can use to threaten instability or he can use the enticement of a stable, successful olympics. Reporter with a longer term goal for kim of trying to bring an end to joint u. S. South Korean Military exercises, which hes always seen as a threat, has the u. S. Been side lined in these talks . No official u. S. Representatives have been invited. But experts say the two allies are in close coordination likely behind the scenes and President Trump has weighed in hinting the talks could involve something bigger. But coming on the heels of so many intensely personal insults between them. Rocket man should have been handled a long time ago. Reporter analysts say the north korean strong man might feel hes lose face speaking directly with trump. After all thats been said the war of words between the two men over the past few weeks and months it would be very difficult for kim jongun to meet with President Trump at this point. Reporter tonight pressure is building for both sides to come up with some kind of deal for dialing tensions back. What could derail these negotiations . What if the koreans decide whatever promises they make theyre not going to up hold them . The olympics are giant, juicy target. It may be something that kim jongun cant resist trying to disrupt especially if he feels he doesnt distract as much as he should from these talks. Reporter South Koreans officials are yardered as saying they may reunite korean families. Thats not going to be negoti e negotiated in this round of talks. The regime envisions a unified Korean Peninsula under a north korean dictatorship. The South Koreans, wolf, are clearly nervous about pulling off a peaceful winter olympic. So a lot of veteran diplomats are telling us theyre concerned the South Koreans are going to give away too much. This has happened before. The South Koreans president s cabinet was investigated and found to have paid about 500 million to the koreans just to go to that summit. Thats not going to happy here. But a lot of korean watchers tonight concerned about the South Koreans giving away to mean concessions to leader gym ku jung un. Coming up, Oprah Winfrey versus President Trump in 2020. Two say shes actively thinking about getting into the next president ial race. Cancer challenges us. To find smarter solutions. To offer more precise and less invasive Treatment Options than before. Like advanced Genomic Testing and immunotherapy. See how were fighting to outsmart cancer at cancercenter. Com outsmart happening now, breaking news. Getting testimony. Cnn has learned that the president s legal team is now preparing for a request by the special counsel for mr. Trump to answer questions. Will there be limits on what the president can be asked . Very stable genius. 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