We are a peaceful people. We do not seek out confrontation but we have to understand we cannot ignore this threat to our security and that of our allies. There is no option of keeping our heads down that would make us safe. The problem would merely get worse as it has done over recent months, not just for us but for europe and for the world. We cannot just walk on by if we are to keep this country safe. We have to con front this menace. Prime minister David Cameron there showing us all his reaction to this brutal act. A third beheading this time of a british aide worker by isis. We need we have a lot of questions about what else is coming now, forth coming from this. Lets get some answers for you. We have the directorst International Center for the study of radicalization with us. Also joining us is cnns fareed zakaria. And we have Lieutenant ColonelBob Mcguinness back with us. I want to start with you, fareed. I want to pull a thread that anna corn shared us with from irbill. She talked about the sunni militias that during the spring and summer joined with or alongside isis in part because isis is not giving them an option. Its either this or die. But also because there is likely a bit of the once burned, twice shy leftover from the maliki regime. It was purging and consolidation. What can the west do to separate the hardliners who are hoping for this counterfeit from the sunni militias who are not as extreme as isis . Fareed, thats to you. All right. I think were having difficulty with fareed there. Peter . Ill toss it out to you. Yes. I think its really important to do two things. One is to contain isis in the areas in which it is and then to start fighting it back. Of course, it will be when the local populations turn against isis that you can really talk about victory. The military can only contain isis. It can support the process. It cannot completely overturn it. The second thing is to stop westerners and other foreigners from going to syria and iraq. Those foreign fights have made the conflict so much worse. And they also represent the long term threat. Theyre creating this International Network that positive potentially be a terrorist network for a whole generation. So these two tasks are really important. Okay. I think we have fareed with us now. Fareed, i want to ask you about, as hes talking about, containment of isis. Part of that has to come from trying to dissuade people from joining them in the first place. Get rid of this recruitment and how successful its bvenlt i think Prime Minister cameron spoke to that. He said islam is a religion of peace. This is a fanatical organization. How do you get people to understand that this is a terrorist group this is not a group that is following any ideology of islam . Well, the most important thing is that islamic militants are much more [ poor audio ] in a way that frankly we have not seen. Weve seen some of it. [ yeah, we have difficulty hearing you, fareed. We apologize for this connection. Let me come you to, Lieutenant Colonel. How difficult will it be to get some of these moderate forces in syria to shift their attention from the ouster of sad aassad as regime to isis . It will be a challenge and as your guests indicated, maliki, the former Prime Minister made it very difficult because of his clear sectarian approach to government. However, i think secretary kerry has done two very important things here. He met yesterday with Prime Minister hider in baghdad. He outlined some of the things that must be done. One of the things, they have to stop shelling indiscriminantly into neighborhoods. If we want to have a reawakening like we did in 06 and 07 that turned the tide against al qaeda, we have to get serious about bringing the sunni population into an inclusive government. Thats one of them. The other thing, is and i think this is a very wise decision by secreta secretariy, and that is recruiting general john allen to oversee the building of a coalition. He has great experience in al qaeda and iraq and working on the awakening issue. I think hell provide sage advice to both president obama and mr. Kerry and on the ground. Well be able to work with the allies. These are steps in the right direction. But its going to be a long slog. Its going to be very difficult in the future. Peter, i want to get to you with the question i just had about islam being religion of peace. How do you dissuade people from becoming radicals in this movement . I think when you look especially at many people from europe and other western countries that have gone to iraq as fighters and joined isis and other groups, its really important that you start engaging these people at home. You stop them from going to these places but more importantly, you engage with muslim communities. Theres conversations about syria happening in almost every muslim household in this country and britain and also in other european countries. Often muslim parents do not feel they have the verbal ammunition to wayne and sustain arguements with their own kids. Often theyre avoiding the arguements. They should fight it out and not force their kids to get advice on the internet. That is really important. Even though it sounds wishy wash yishgs it is ultimately the most important thing to prevent people from being interested in this ideology in the first place and to make it clear that this is not mainstream islam. Its been explained as a grooming process in which you take someone who is despondent and show you understand and here is where your passion should lie. Thank you to our guests. Thank you, gentlemen. Another big story that weve been talking about this week, ray rice. Do you know he put himself back in the spotlight . 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Some people stopping by to give hand shakes or offer hugs to the embattled athlete. His former High School Coach also speaking out offering his support for ray rice. Ray is a part of our family and this program. Thats why im very happy hes here today. Because he made a mistake and he made a very terrible mistake, but i know that character of the man. He will rise from this. People may see people embracing ray or having strong feelings about ray because hes very beloved in this community. But that doesnt mean that people excuse what hes done. Earlier this week the high school made the decision to remove ray rices portrait from the wall of fame. They also took the ravens jersey off the wall. I spoke to the principal. He said it was important to acknowledge the severity of what happened inside that elevator with those actions. But the principal says that a high school is a place for learning. There are lessons about forgiveness and redemption that could be learned here as well. He said it is possible that one day that portrait and that jersey could return to the walls here in the high school. All right. Thank you. Just ahead, the strange case of matthew miller. Hes a Young American tourist in north korea who has been sentenced to six years in prison. Were taking you live to seoul next. [music] defiance is in our bones. Defiance never grows old. Citracal maximum. Easily absorbed calcium plus d. Beauty is bone deep. No. Not exactly. To attain success, one must project success. Thats why we use fedex one rate. Their flat rate shipping. Exactly. It makes us look topnotch but we know its affordable. [ garage door opening ] [ sighs ] honey, havent i asked you to please use the we dont have a reception entrance. [ male announcer ] ship a pak via Fedex Express saver® for as low as 7. 50. [ male announcer ] ship a pak via Fedex Express saver® thats keeping you from the healthcare you deserve. At humana, we believe the gap will close when healthcare gets simpler. When frustration and paperwork decrease. When grandparents get to live at home instead of in a home. So lets do it. Lets simplify healthcare. Lets close the gap between people and care. With the top speedou compare of comcast the top speed of business dsl from the internet. Phone company well, theres really no comparison. Why pay more for less . Call today for a low price on speeds up to 150mbps. And find out more about our twoyear price guarantee. Comcast business. Built for business. Welcome back. American Matthew Todd Miller was found guilty today of hostile acts by north korea and punished to six years of hard labor. Now hes been detained in north korea on unspecified charges since april. This is a case it doesnt make a lot of sense to a lot of americans. He went there on a tourist visa and what happened next is really a muddy picture at this point. Cnns Paula Hancocks is in seoul, south korea. First of all lets get to what happened to todays development in pyongyang. Can you explain for us . Absolutely. It was a trial that took place in pyongyang. We know Matthew Todd Miller has been sentenced to six years hard labor. The Supreme Court in pyongyang effectively says he was found guilty of committing hostile acts when he came into the country itself, so when he came in with that tourist visa and also said that he was under the guise of a tourist. It isnt clear as you say as many things are not with north korea what exactly happened next. According to north korean state media what happened back in april was that Matthew Todd Miller then ripped up his tourist visa as he was entering the country and said he was claiming asylum. Cnn got some significant access to miller when they were in pyongyang recently, a rare interview. Even then he said he was not there to talk go that. He believed that he was allowed to do this interview with cnn because it was his last chance to try to talk to the u. S. Government and try and get them to help him. So certainly it is incredibly unclear what exactly happened and miller himself at that point appeared to be unable to discuss it in much detail. North korean officials very close to him, watching that interview closely. Have we learned anything about the two other americans that are being held in north korea, kenneth bae and Jeffrey Fowle . Kenneth bae was sentenced almost two years ago now. This is something that is very significant, the fact that he has been held longer than any other american since the 1950s, since the korean war. Hes coming up to two years and he is doing hard labor. He says hes working six days a week, eight hours a day. He committed hostile acts, hes a former missionary as we understand it. There may have been something in that realm that upset the north korean government and also Jeffrey Fowle, he has not gone to trial yet. He according to north korean media is accused of leaving a bible in his hotel. The one thing about all three of these u. S. Citizens that all experts practically agree on is the fact that north korea wants a highprofile american official to go to north korea to Pay Lip Service and try to secure the release of them. This has a precedent. This has happened in the past weve seen former president s bill clinton and jimmy carter have been to pi i dont think yang to try to secure the release of previous detainees. Its worked so experts say this is what pyongyang wants. Paula hancocks thank you so much for letting us know whats happening we appreciate it. Thanks, paula. A cop killer is on the loose in pennsylvania or somewhere in that region, maybe new york, maybe new jersey. So where are authorities looking and do they have a suspect . Well tell you what they know. If i told you that a free tensecond test could mean less waiting for things like security backups and file downloads youd take that test, right . What are you waiting for . You could literally be done with the test by now. Now you could have done it twice. This is awkward. Go to comcastbusiness. Com checkyourspeed. If we cant offer faster speeds or save you money well give you 150. Comcast business built for business. A huge expansive hunt under way in pennsylvania for a person who shot at two state troopers yesterday. One is dead, the other is in critical condition. Cnn National Reporter nick valencia has been up on this story since yesterday. Its a tragic, tragic story. One police officer, one state trooper in pennsylvania dead and were expecting to get more information later this morning at 10 00 a. M. Flags at half staff in pennsylvania to honor the fallen officer. Und. Reporter 911 audio from pike county in eastern pennsylvania. After two Pennsylvania State troopers are ambushed just outside of Police Barracks in blooming grove. This attack was an ambush. They were leaving the barracks and were shot without warning and really had no chance to defend themselves. One trooper ryan dixon was killed in the attack. Another trooper, alex douglas was hospitalized in stable but critical condition. Its a cowardly attack, its an attack upon all of us in society and the people of pennsylvania. Reporter this morning a manhunt is under way for the person or persons involved in the attack and its not just pennsylvania officers involved in the search. Officers from multiple agencies including new york and new jersey are involved in the hunt. On the ground and in the air. We do not believe any particular person is specifically at risk. This attack was directed specifically at Law Enforcement. Reporter so far no arrests have been made but police say they are interviewing hundreds of people and there is a 20,000 reward. Were looking for the cooperation of the public, were outraged at this terrible act. The Pennsylvania State police and Law Enforcement in general will not rest until this individual is apprehended. We do know that someone was brought in for questions yesterday. He has been released and theyre asking those in the area township of about 5,000 people to remain vigilant. This is such a small community. You would think, was there not a camera out there . That was asked to the top cop there, the police commissioner, during the press conference yesterday. You would assume there would be Surveillance Video outside the Police Barracks but he was unwilling to comment or give details. Theres clearly something the police know. They didnt give a shelter in place warning to those in the area. Perhaps well hear more about 10 00 a. M. Nick valencia, thank you so much and thank you for starting your morning with us. Theres much more ahead on the next hour of new day, starts right now. Wishing you a good morning this morning and grateful for your company. Im christi paul. Im victor blackwell. Other hostage held by isis has been killed, his family understandably is grieving, his life obviously taken too soon. The u. S. And britain are vowing justice against this terror group. British Prime MinisterDavid Cameron spoke a short time ago. Step by step we must drive back, dismantle and destroy isil and what it stands for. We will do so in a calm, deliberate way but with an iron determination. We will work closely with our allies not just the United States and europe, but also in the region. Speaking just hours after the video released of david haines there kneeling, his masked killer standing next to him, before he takes his life. He threatens britain with more bloodshed. Even allies for america which continues to strike the muslims of iraq and most recently bomb will only accelerate more destruction and cameron, well only drag you and your people into another bloody and unwinnable war. . The video of the executioner threatened to kill another british aide worker held by isis. Isis says this man is allen henning. Hes kneeling here. Like haines he went to syria to help war refugees. Haines is the third western host annual to be killed by isis in recent weeks. Theyve also beheaded Steven Sotloff and james foley as well. Were covering this breaking story from all angles with our team of reporters around the world. Atika shubert is in london and erin mcpike, thank you for being with us. Atika, talk to us a little bit more about what stood out to you in british Prime MinisterDavid Camerons speech today . He made it clear britain would not be intimidated by this video, this is going to strengthen the resolve of britain and he laid out a number of steps in