Silent while he remains so loud . What do americas fourstar generals know . What do the retired generals know . What do trumps friends like sean hannity know and what do they say in private and why wont they tell the rest of us . Jeffrey goldbergs story for the atlantic brings the questions back to the forefront. Trump said americans who died in war are losers and suckers. Thats the headline. The story is worse. Trump world denounced the story and many news outlets focused their followups on trumps denials. You see all those headlines. They led with the denials. Why . Its easy to do. Its kind of automatic to do in journalism. Why confer credibility where it doesnt belong . I mean fool me once, shame on you, fool me 20,000 times and well, shame on all of us. Why keep acting like things are normal after 20,000 false and misleading claims. This week the lies continued, especially about covid and ways that were disturbing. The president said hospitalizations and deaths from covid19 have declined radically over the past week. We wish. Wouldnt that be wonderful . Thats not true. While downplaying the death toll trump got the numbers wrong and said the u. S. Death toll was 175,000. The death toll surpassed 186,000 at the time he said it. Those are thousands of dead americans he left out. He also retweeted cooks who engage in death toll denialism. He lies about news yatoutlets a proves his words are meaningless. Trump said quote cnn reported i had a heart attack. Thats not true. Cnn never reported that. Go to cnn. Com and try to find it. Why would we ever report that . He lies about news outlets all the time. He tweeted that the atlantic magazine is dying which it is not. He called Jeffrey Goldberg third rate which makes no sense. All the name calling does back ups the claims in goldbergs story about trump calling vets losers. I mean trump has used the word loser hundreds of times. More importantly multiple outlets including cnn and most notably fox news, have corroborated key aspects of goldbergs report, about disparaging veterans. The focus should not be on toothless denials from a pathological liar or those complicit, the focus should be on the claims and corob brags and on the open secrets that are sometimes spilling out. As david wrote of the Washington Post this weekend, he says, it has been an open secret in washington that many prominent retired four stars have regarded trump with growing horror as he assaulted the traditions and discipline and professionalism that are bedrocks of military life. An open secret. Why is it so a secret . Why dont they speak out . Why do they leak instead. Its complicated. I get it. Heres what happens where anonymous sourcing rains. They want to argue about goldbergs use of Anonymous Sources instead of the substance. Trump attacks the sourcing even though as i point in my book hoax he is an anonymous source himself, trump feeds stuff to sean hannity and he shares it with millions of people citing a source. A number of hannitys inner circle said when sean says sources he usually means the president. Trump routinely imploers americans not to trust anonymous sourced reporting and claims we make it up, but he is hannitys number one anonymous source. Do you follow . What does hannity know that hes not telling us . What do trumps other confidants know . What do the generals know . It is put up or shut up time. Two weeks sorry two weeks two months until a president ial election. Lets talk about this with the aforementioned Jeffrey Goldberg who has been getting heat in the last few days and a lot of accolades for this painful reporting in the atlantic, jeffrey, your story it hurt, it hurts to read the quotes allowed from the president of the United States disparaging veterans. Can you take us too your reporting and why you felt confident publishing this . Well, i felt confident publishing it because i had multiple sources with firsthand knowledge of the president s views and comments. Thats the only reason to publish anything. I thought it was important to publish because in my expense and our collective experience i dont think weve had a president who has contempt for american soldiers, wounded veterans, People Killed in action and so it is its incredibly novel. Its one of these things thats in a category of shocking yet not surprising and i say not surprising because to borrow your term open secrets in 2015 donald trump did something nobody in public life had done before, mokd john mccain for getting captured. According to the rules of ordinary politics that should have ended a candidacy and it didnt and weve been living in that reality. Ive been fascinated by his attitude toward the American Military and people who serve generally, not just in the military, but people who provide Selfless Service to the country. Its not something that he seems it to understand very well. Have you gone back to these sources since thursday . Are some of them considering speaking publicly . I dont want to go into that too much. I would say im in a conversation with a large number of people, as are other reporters as you noted at the top of the show, and i think there is horror is the right word across the National Security complex of people who have devoted their careers to protecting the United States. There is a sense of horror about the way he acts and behaves and talks and so i would fully expect let me say it this way i would fully expect more reporting to come out about this and more confirmation and new pieces of information in the coming days and weeks. Yeah. But why grant anonymity in the first place. Help viewers understand how this works. These sources are not anonymous to you. You know their names. Youre atafrpg your credibility to them granting them anonymity. Right, of course. As Jennifer Griffen on fox said and i thought this was a great quote, these are not people who are anonymous to me. Yes, we know if youre a good reporter and youre going to quote somebody anonymously you better have faith in what theyre saying. Its a complicated thing as you well know. We all have to use Anonymous Sources in a climate in which the president of the United States tries to actively intimidate journalism organizations and people who provide information to journalism organizations. The formula is simple. What you do is you have to say, does the publics right to know or need to know a particular piece of information outweigh the morally complicated and ambiguous qualities of anonymous sourcing. Most of us, most of the time, dont rely on anonymous sourcing for most things because there are difficulties there. But in this climate with information that we judge the voters to need, we are going to use Anonymous Sources because we think the public has a right to know. Especially when you have four or five or six sources primary sources corroborating sources telling you the same thing. And so speaking of the climate an issue of what does the public need. Right. Speaking of the climate and the president s attacks here is his latest broadside against you and your magazine and the majority owner. He writes steve jobs would not be happy that his wife is wasting money he left her on a failing radical left magazine, the magazine is not failing run by a con man, thats you apparently, that spews fake news and hate. Call her and write her. That seems ominous to me. Do you interpret that as a threat . You know, i spent a lot of my career covering dictatorships in the middle east and so im familiar with this kind of discourse. It is a threat. It is meant to intimidate. I would only say we are neither failing or radical left and i would say, im not speaking for the ownership or the management of the company, i would say that we have excellent owners who value editorial independence and integrity and i would just say that we are not going to be intimidated by the president of the United States. Were going to do our jobs and i think that is true for a large number of outlets. His intense frustration which comes out in these outbursts comes out unlike dictators and other countries he cannot shut down Media Outlets that he doesnt like. And so its our duty to continue to pursue the truth no matter what he says about us. I would say at the atlantic and many other organizations including yours there is unienity of feeling that we have a responsibility and were going to do it regardless of what he says. Yeah. Absolutely. Let me bring in carl bern stein who knows something or two about anonymous sourcing. I want to add you couto the conversation. Fits in perfectly because first we have to recognize almost everything we know about the truth about donald trump and his presidency comes from reporting, great reporting, by news organizations including the atlantic, cnn, Washington Post, the New York Times and that reporting is almost universally based on anonymous sourcing in part because thats the only way we can get to the truth. The people who are on the scene who know donald trump, who are participants in his presidency, and are telling us the truth about this man, his actions and real words as in this case. The same thing happened in watergate. We used anonymous sourcing at the Washington Post, deep throat, almost all 200 of our stories about watergate were based on anonymous sourcing. Thats the only way to do this. We must continue in the press to do our reporting day by day by day because thats how we know who this president , what this presidency really is. The fake news is the president s news. Were doing the real reporting. Were going to hear a lot more in terms of accounts of the Trump Presidency from three books in the next few days. Thats right. Michael cohens book disloyal his account of being trumps fixer. A book by peter strzok and Bob Woodwards book, Simon Schuster expects it to be such a big deal its printed more than a million copies. Do you knowing anything about bobs book . Im not going to say what i know. Bob and i are very close and we talk but were also very careful not to overlap in our reporting. Mine for cnn, him for what hes doing. At the same time i think that we can expect that once again, bob woodward has gone to the real sources and that those sources, some of whom im going to assume are going to be anonymous, perhaps most, but the record will be there just as it has been in all of his books. We are going to once again learn about the reality of this president and this presidency. Just as we did in part from this story that jeffrey has reported. Let me add one more thing about Anonymous Sources and jeffreys story for that matter. This is not about one anonymous source. Look what we did in watergate. We insisted that we have second sources, third sources, thats the way you do it. Then lets look at the real record of donald trump. Donald trump is the big lie. He is the big lie. His presidency is the big lie. Those 20,000 catalog smaller lies add up to the reality of the lie and how do we fight against the lie . We simply report the truth whatever it takes us. Thats what weve been doing. The reason the American People know what the reality of this president and presidency is and have the basis to make their own decisions like him or not like him, is because of the great reporting and almost all of it, the crucial stuff, has been based on Anonymous Sources. Which then is sometimes, oftentimes actually, verified later on the record by others. Jeffrey context. Yeah. Jeffrey, last word to you. Well, i agree with what carl said. His framing is very interesting that trump is the big lie. One of the tactics that they use, people in the white house and supporters, is to harp on irrelevant details and try to create an echo chamber effect. There have been no denials of many of the items i reported on in my piece including the fact that donald trump, donald trump has called george h. W. Bush a loser for being shot down by the japanese in world war ii. Not a word about that. Not a word about any of these things. Because i think inside the white house, they know how donald trump thinks and they know how donald trump feels about the military and about veterans. And how he talks. Thats right. The language is really important here. Yeah. We have a record of the language. We do. Yeah. Carl and jeffrey, thank you very much. Later this hour, did goldbergs report prompt trump to defend the militarys revere newspaper stars and stripes why the about face . The fed moved to block White Privilege training. Why does Tucker Carlson get the credit or blame for that move . The answer is next. Reliable sources brought to you by you cant give them everything they want. But you can find lots of things theyll love at petsmarts labor day sale. Get a 10 bonus card with every 50 purchase. Petsmart. It was built on bluecollar, hard work. Hard work means every day. Getting it right. Its so iconic, you can just sit it on a shelf if its missing, you know it. 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Websites like town hall and the Washington Free beacon have been publishing reports about this, bry ba breitbart is hyping it. Much is linked back to chris, who tweeted my goal is simple to persuade the president of the United States to issue an executive order abolishing Critical Race Theory in the federal government. Hes almost succeeded on his mission. Chris calls it toxic and racist ideology and on Tucker Carlsons program on thursday talking about this, pushing the story, you see it right there. Two days later an Administration Source told fox news the administration was doing everything it could to stop these types of training so tuckers show gets results. No more talk about White Privilege, no more examination of systemic racism, the Trump Administration doesnt want it inside federal agencies. Even though 2020 is being defined in part by this long, overdue reckoning about race. Trump doesnt want it to happen. So friday, saturday trumps been tweeting about this, dozens of posts saying Critical Race Theory is a sickness, it must be extinguished and retweeting all about this, retweeting tuckers segment and on and on. Saturday, for example, the president kind of went on a twitter storm, posted 19 times about this subject. Why was this catnip for Tucker Carlson and laura engram . I think former fox host Ebony Williams explained it best. I quoted her in my book. Heres what i wrote. After she left the network, Ebony Williams decried fox as racist and fear based and the programming strategies was to address conservative fears of the intrinsic devaluation of whiteness in this country. White identity politics in other words. It all comes back to that. All comes back to whiteness and the backlash to a browning america. And the president , he eats it up and the feedback loop spins round and round. Columbia University Scholar nicol hemer wrote messengers of the right and with me now. We see the president tweeting about the 1619 project, nicol and her colleagues arguing the countrys founding is based on slavery and thats been the project for the past year. He says this should not be taught in schools. Its, again, linked to what fox is telling him on the tv all the time about race. Thats exactly right. I mean i dont think any of us believe that president has deep thoughts on Critical Race Theory or hes read the 1619 project. These have really become watch words for what the right sees as antiwhite racism and Tucker Carlson is the Perfect Place to get that message across because remember, hes the host who says White Supremacy is a hoax. This is the place you go for this message. I noticed you said on twitter that the gops 2020 message really mirrors the 2018 mid terms message about an invasion, a caravan of migrants invading the country which wasnt happening. How do you see it happening in 2020 . Yeah. This time instead of its migrants invading the country, its minorities invading the suburbs, the idea of a suburban invasion is one of the lines of the rnc and now the president s Campaign MessageGoing Forward to both scare particularly white suburban women and bring them into the fold. Right. Its pretty clear and all this talk about the riots are going to come to your town, the fearbased strategy, it all relates to that notion of white identity politics, reinforcing mig whiteness. Nicol, thank you very much. I want to thank everybody for your support of my book hoax on all the best seller lists this weekend and im grateful to all of you for putting it on there. Buyhoax. Com. We are working on printing more copies right now. Quick break on reliable sources and then something that has been sorely undercover. A reason why candidates feel free to lie in tv ads. Were going to show you and talk with that reporter in a moment. I have moderate to severe pnow, theres skyrizi. 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These rules apply to senate and house races as well. The result, the Trump Campaign can buy ads and fill the airwaves with falsehoods like this. Joe biden says if you elect me your taxes will be raised not cut. Middle class families and seniors play higher taxes. That quote was used way out of context. The full quote shows that biden was referring to raising taxes on the wealthy, not everyone. Biden asserted he will not raise income taxes on anyone making under 400,000 a year. According to axios that ad has aired in key battleground states, florida, arizona, wisconsin and more. Trump has been unprecedented as a truth challenged president. Not surprisingly his president ial campaign is taking advantage of a system that cant stop claims that are grossly misleading or worse. Cable networks such as cnn and msnbc, have rejected some false trump ads and Cable Networks can make those judgements because political advertising on cable is not regulated by the fcc. But since broadcast is regulated, the stations have no choice. Trumps falsehoods continue. There is one exception to this, though. As fcc examincommissioner told campaigns have the right to ask stations to remove thirdparty advertisements with false and fake stuff. Third parties like the super pac behind this antibiden fracking ad which was not produced by the Trump Campaign. Fracking in a biden administration. No. We would we would work it out and make sure its eliminated. This week biden addressed that claim head on. I am not banning fracking. No matter how many times donald trump lies about me. Biden has leaned on pennsylvania tv stations to remove the pac ad saying the news programs shown to your viewers have debunked these claims yet you accept dollars to allow them to spread this further. This is a diss service to your viewers and a misleading business practice. Local tv stations are incentivized to air these because pacs pay more money for air time than campaigns do. Why . Again, the answer is in the fcc rules. The rules say that stations cannot charge legally qualified candidates anything more than the lowest unit charge. This is the amount that they charge their most favored commercial customers. As abc News Highlights here, using cmag data, protrump efforts booked about 173 million in ads from september through election day. Probiden efforts have booked about 151 million. All this spending is a boon for local tv stations that need the money. But it is a burden for viewers who dont know what to believe. So thats the problem, are there solutions . Lets bring in cnn political commentator s. E. Cupp and senior White House Correspondent at huff post, the author of the book the useful idiot how donald trump killed the Republican Party with racism and the rest of us with coronavirus. Thats one heck of a title. Trump is the it yods in your title. Whats the useful part . There were a number of folks in our country and outside who wanted him elected for certain particular things, and by and large they got those things. That includes folks who wanted judges appointed and Vladimir Putin who wanted to wreck our alliances with europe. Thats the useful part for them. Youve been critical of what you call the ministry of untruth. Lying is the defining feature. Do you think that the press has been ineffective in calling it out and why it continues . The problem is that we as human beings want to give the benefit of the doubt to people. You meet someone and they tell you something you want to believe its true. Donald trump has taken advantage of that not just as president. He has been lying as his primary method of dealing with other human beings for about 50 years. So this goes back to when he was in new york and then, you know, on the apprentice and the most useful thing hes probably ever said to billy bush when he said, just say it, theyll believe you. Thats right. So i guess i wonder, s. E. , will our political culture snap back to normal or is shameless and lying and that problem with tv ads i showed is this here to stay do you think . Thats up to us. Unless we want to take on the laws, you know, political speech like this including lies, is protected and its perfectly legal and challenged as recently as 2006. Congress passed a law making it illegal for candidates to lie about their military service. That went all the way to the Supreme Court which ruled nope, you can do that. You can lie as a political candidate. What doesnt make sense i think to most people, we have laws protecting consumers in commerce against false advertising and dont have any laws protecting citizens in politics against lies in politics. And believe me, i am a free speech hawk when it comes to free speech, but this does not seem to be protected and voters in a way that is ultimately benefiting society. Yeah. It shows how you can take advantage of a system if youre shameless enough. Thats right. Thats what weve seen in recent years. To s. B. And sr. E. , thank you both. Sign up for our reliable sources news later at cnn. I. T. reliable. This conversation continues moving from tv to the digital side to social media platforms like facebook. Facebook Vice President nick clegg is standing by. We questions for him in just a moment. When you have depression, it can plunge you into deep, dark lows. And, can leave you feeling extremely sad and disinterested. Overwhelmed by bipolar depression . Ask about vraylar. Not all types of depression should be treated the same. Vraylar effectively helps relieve all symptoms of bipolar depression. With just one pill, once a day. Elderly patients with dementiarelated psychosis have an increased risk of death or stroke. Call your doctor about unusual changes in behavior or suicidal thoughts. Antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. 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Facebook will limit some advertising in the week before u. S. Election. But note the rest of the headline. It will let politicians run ads with lies. Facebook is taking some actions but there are some loopholes. I thought we should talk with facebook about this. I asked nick clegg to join me Vice President of Global Affairs and communications at facebook and he is back on reliable sources now. Tell us about the change in policy. I can buy an ad before halloween thats full of lies if im a candidate, but i cant buy it in the week around the election, is that right . It depends on who you are. If youre a pac or super pac your ads will be fact checked and are on a significant scale. We have more Fact Checkers that work for us than any other tech company. The ads of speech and politicians themselves in keeping with the law that you alluded to in your earlier piece local tv. Which covers broadcast in this country, we, in fact, try to ash trait between the exaggerations and selective facts that politicians always use about each other. We have said, however, for the last week of the campaign, and this is an unprecedented step because this is an unprecedented election, an election like no other, time like no other, the pandemic, immense polarization in the country and candidly also question marks being raised by people about the legitimacy of voting which is damaging to peoples confidence in voting, so what weve said in the last week of the campaign, the campaigns will not be able to run new ads and thats in order to make sure that you avoid the problem of having an ad, a divisive false ad run in the last 24 or 48 hours and there isnt enough time for you and the media to scrutinize it and the other campaigns to rely. There isnt time and space for the speech and counter speech to play out. Its part of a suite of extensive new proposals that new actions we set out last week including we will label any claim by a candidate where they prematurely claim victory we will remove content where its asserted if you two to vote you will get covid. Were expanding to remove misrepresentations about how, when and where to vote, either direct or indirect misrepresentations, and crucially we will label much more aggressively than we have until now posts which seek to question the legitimacy, the very legitimacy of methods of voting like mailin ballots and so on allowing those claims to stay on, i saw one of the president s lies on facebook about mailin voting and then there was a box, seeing the claims left me saying how do i know what to believe, the president or Mark Zuckerberg . Why is it putting a label is enough, you think . Its not Mark Zuckerberg. If you looked at the label closely it comes from the policy center. Its important there. We work for the policy center. Its bipartisan, the name implies, users see that. You cant see that in that post that youre referring to. Not able as a user to see the post and label as well. It shows theres an alternative point of view, in this case about mailin ballots. Weve never done this before but were going to do it much more forcefully between now and november 3rd. Isnt that a scandal you havent done any until now . I think were moving with the pace of the election campaign. We have been tightening our policies. This is not the first time weve announced policies on election campaigns and how they play on our platforms. Constantly iterating this is the latest series of measures that were taking to play our role as responsibly as we can to ensure free and open speech, often vigorous, aggressive speech, to play out because democracy plays itself out online and offline. These are new guardrails in place in order to make sure people are confident and safe and secure when they come to cast their vote. Breitbart was the Top Performing news page on facebook this week. Right wing content is going so viral on facebook as kevin and others have documented. Does that concern facebook that theres so much hyper partisan content thats the most popular on facebook . Its not forgive me its genuinely misleading. These post are most engaged with. People interested in that content might enfwaj with the comments and shares. Its actually deeply misleading to say thats what most see. Its a fineny fraction. The pages most see which is done through a number of impressions are not these hyper partisan pages at all. By the way, we no doubt publish through a tool called crowd tangle where we allow people such as kevin to use that tool to look at the content engaged with and we should match that with an accurate of what human beings, eyeballs here and around the world see, and you would find a completely different picture. Whats going to happen after the election if biden wins, trump fans will blame facebook . They will say you all tried to twinge swing the election. Are you prepared for that scrutiny no matter which direction the election goes . I think facebook is well accustomed and weve talked about it on this program before, getting it from both sides if i can put it like that. Here in terms of content. Theres a consistent drumbeat of criticism from the right who feel that facebook takes down and moderates too much content, consistent drumbeat of criticism from the left saying we dont do it enough. Of course we understand. By the way, that is right and proper. It is right and proper that a company like facebook where in a sense we have to as a private company try to hold the ring on the way in which a lot of these publicly highly charged debates take place, we have to take decisions which are not there to favor one side or the other or make one side more happy than the other and in a sense we accept we might make both of them unhappy. We are to serve the American People and in this case to serve them on facebook as well as we can. By the way, through our voter information center, you will see soon almost every single day between now and november 3rd very prominent information how to vote, where to vote, and were trying to register 4 million americans, biggest registration drive ever undertaken in this country. Were trying to do our bit on a very ambitious scale. I accept people will criticize from every direction. Of all the elections facebook is trying to help, you know, monitor and try to limit interference is the American Election the hardest one . Its certainly i think right now by far the most polarized one, greatest consequence not just for this country but the whole. There have been 200 elections since the last president ial election. Weve had major elections and fraught circumstances in places like brazil and india where theres been focus on how it has been used for political purposes. In the european union, where we put additional measures and resources in place and the outgoing president of the European Parliament acknowledged we had done a much better job than we had done in the past. Nick, thank you very much. Please come back soon. Thank you. Coming up here another American Institution under threat. This time its stars and stripes the military newspaper. Inside the fight to keep it printing, next. 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That thats what weve been after, thats what the supporters in the senate and house have been after. When we get to congress on a conference on the budget i hope we will see the same kind of support. Its important that the department of defense follow up and rescind that shutdown order. Right. We are tight on time but i want people to Pay Attention to this because this paper shouldnt have been threatened in the first place and now months of drama involving this. Are you confident we will have a satisfactory outcome . I think theres a lot of support in congress and the real question now is after the president s tweet lets see what the department of defense does officially, not in tweet language, but in something firm to rescind the order and commit to funding stars and stripes through the period of a continuing resolution which is very likely and then let congress do its work, settle on the fy 21 budget and make the bunding for stars and stripes ironclad. Its an unduplicated source of news and information for troops and families and even civilian Defense Department employees all around the world. Nobodys does what it does. Right. Thats absolutely right. This is yet another example of the failure of congress to meet this moment. We are in the midst of a pandemic, there are so many people suffering and there are all these unanswered issues, Unanswered Questions about the budget that just are hanging out there in the meantime. Ernie, thank you very much. We will keep an eye on this. Thank you all for joining me for this weeks reliable sources broadcast. Join us online, bod cast at reliable sources. Com and our nightly newsletter. I will see you back here this time next week. Its an important time to save. With priceline, you can get up to 60 off amazing hotels. And when you get a big deal, you feel like a big deal. priceline. Every trip is a big deal. Ive been involved in. Communications in the media for 45 years. 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