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Week that was, the impeachment flat line. This is one of the times when a line graph can tell a story best. Impeachment is a fact that President Trump cannot deny. Even in the age of alternative facts and even though some of his surrogates are trying to spin it in his favor and see he hasnt been impeached, the front remembered for decades to come. While the house and senate are squabbling over the terms of a senate trial, it feels like the fog over washington is only becoming thicker and denser. An impeachment really is a thought line. Look at this. This is from tracking autopolll patrols looking at whether people support moving trump from office. Theres been barely any movement throughout the hearings and the debates on the floor of the house. And then to the vote. People are exactly where they were. Basically a 50 50 country. So when you hear hype about movement and individual polls or when you hear trump claim hes gaining tons of support, just remember that its a flat line. One of the many reasons why is because the fox news talk radio fire wall is holding strong. Lets look at the banners from fox from impeachment night. The lefts impeachment lies exposed as a sham hits a new level. Talking about democrats walking off in impeachment. Delusional democrats walk off impeachment cliff. You know what . Trump couldnt write the banners be better if he tries, but he does try on his twitter account. Hes been screaming in all caps earlier in the week. But theres no way to tweet yourself out of impeachment. My question this sunday is what did we learn if anything in the past week . With me to discuss that and much more is the editor of the new yorker, david remnick. Hes been running the new yorker since 1998. The last time there was an impeachment all over the news. David, thank you for being here. Great to see you. Did anything change this week . Ill tell you what i think i hope changes. That i think is more important. Because weve seen the republicans stuck where they are. Theyre illusions about trump remain, and youre right to describe it as a flat line. Heres what i hope that we understand. That the the stakes here are immense. Its just its not just about the political future of one man, donald trump. Its about the future of democracy and democratic process and this is a a trend throughout the world. Its about the future of the earth. We have a party that has decided to be disbelieving about climate change. Its about issues as essential as that. And right now you have a country that is split, and to great frustration of people like you and people like me, we dont somehow understand. We dont understand why the evidence of things, why facts dont penetrate so many of our brothers and sisters in the United States of america. And this is a source of great frustration for the press. For the press. And for anybody who is thinking about these issues that are so important. And in your new column in new yorker. Com you write the shock of trumps it trumped reason fact and ethical judgment in the Republican Party. Its not as if reason and fact and truth telling were pervasive in any Political Party much less the Republican Party. But things have gotten markedly worse. Lindsey graham during the campaign called donald trump unfit for office. A bigot, a xeonophobe. Ma marco rubio, the bushes. So much of the Republican Party, their candidates, their lobby know the score. Everybody in the senate and the house knows this is a man of low character, of ethical ethics run amuck. This is not nobody in the Republican Party thinks this is a good and decent man. These are people who are looking to their political advantages. They think if they act or speak against them, theyll lose their seats. The only people speaking against him are people set to retire. 40 . Its republican. This is not exactly profiles and courage time. And john meacham is right to point out that if you look historically at the cost of opposing your president within the party, the price is not that high. People are people are themselves lacking character and courage. It has to be said straight up. What about this weeks letter from President Trump to nancy pelosi in advance of the impeachment vote. It was described as unhinged and crazed by commentators on cable television. Whats in it . Whats new . Does it speak to the broader question thats been in effect for the past three years about fitness for office . Is that what the conversations are about . Brian, nothing has changed. Ive lived in new york a long time. Donald trump is who he is. When he was a businessman, he cheated contractors and employees, and he behaved the way he behaves. You know, i thought that adam schiffs speech on the floor of the house was eloquent. And he called donald trump a cheat. That is at the nature of his behavior throughout his business career, throughout his political career. But if nothing has changed, can you blame people for being trump fatigue . Look, i think the press has done in total a terrific job of putting together the sum of particulars against trump, whether its through character, business behavior, Political Behavior and on the story of ukraine. We know whats what. Trump supporters say the media creates hoaxes, the russia hoax, the ukraine hoax. Thats the business were in. How do we disprove that smear. The question is how you reach people and change minds in the current environment. Its gotten increasingly hard. But cheating is also rampant here, and i think a lot of people in the media are not showing courage. First and foremost, an organization like facebook. Facebook refuses to consider itself what it is. Its a publisher. And its coming around to this maybe slowly because of the criticism, but first and foremost the value is money, money, money. This was the first social media impeachment. I feel like we dont know the ramifications, the consequences of everyone being in their own bubbles. This is not a question of the behavior of the Washington Post or the new yorker. However flawed we may be in a given moment. This is a question of larger technological trends that have an effect. Even fox news, fox news is not reaching 150 Million People a night. Its reaching several million. I dont know what the number is. 4 million, 5 million viewers. Its held through social media and influences other outlets but Something Like the leadership of facebook, if youre talking about this year and the last couple of years, needs to look itself in the face and take responsibility for the role here. When were talking about how lies and disinformation spreads, so much is about information spreading. In an effort to be seen as neutral, journalists time after time fell into the trap of presenting facts and lies as roughly e kwi lent and then blaming political tribalism for not seeming to know the difference. Do you agree . It happens. It happens, but i think theres been a greater effort not to do so. We certainly go to great thengts not to do it at the new yorker. I dont see it happening at other news outlets. Occasionally it does. You look at the evening programs at cnn. Are they sitting there swallowing lie after lie . I dont think so. In fact, the effort has been in the other direction. The real problem is what were discussing now. The kind of universe of manipulated social media, social Media Companies not owning up to their responsibilities and getting rid of the fakery that they are putting out. I know its a strong word, but were in a poisoned information eco system. All of us are in it even if we try to rely on magazines and other sources. One of the biggest problems, something we may never have anticipated. Im not saying the predecessors are innocence and honest at every moment, but the degree of dishonesty sitting at the oval office. The power of the pulpit that he has is immense. And even though a degree of incompetence has been one of the breaks on total disaster in every area, Donald Trumps ability to shift the argument, shift the dialogue, and the need for us to Pay Attention to what he says because the tweets cannot be ignored. I disagree with people who say they should be left alone. They are president ial utterances. They reflect his quote, unquote, ideas, resentments, and they have to be reported on. They have to be properly analyzed and debunk first dochk thats required. But they have to be reported on. Hes putting so much out. You mean on the level of you describe it as a matter of Mental Health or a matter of just volume . Volume. The idea that a president would take the time to tweet 300 times in a given week should begin to tell you something. David remnick, thank you for being here and starting us off. Good to see you. After a quick break, media memory loss. Is the media missing out . Well discuss it next. May your holidays glow bright and all your dreams take flight. Lease the c 300 sedan for just 399 a month at the mercedesbenz winter event. Hurry in today. Iclimate is the number 1ove priority. Sage. I would declare a state of emergency on day 1. Congress has never passed an important climate bill, ever. This is a problem that continues to get worse. Ive spent a decade fighting and beating oil companies. Stopping pipelines. Stopping fossil fuel plants, ensuring clean energy across the country. How are we going to pull this country together . We take on the biggest challenge in history, we save the world and do it together. Woman friction points, those obstacles that limit a companys growth. 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He said he wouldnt sign another bill like last winter and he signed two of them over the weekend. Lets talk about this idea of memory loss, how to make sure the media follows up on these stories. Let me bring in three experts with me. Katherine rampell, and also the author of winter is coming. Garry kasparov. And s. E. Cupp. Katherine, your brand new column is about the tax cut two years later. Broken promises. Is it fair are you seeing enough followups in the press about the milestones . I think there has been insufficient followup. Every single promise that trump and republicans by the way other republicans, other members of his party have made has been broken. He said the tax cut would pay for itself. It has added or is projected to add 2 trillion to the deficit. Trump said we would get to 6 growth. Were at 2 . Thats what we had when obama was president. He said it would result in big raises. He said americans would be grateful and rush to the Republican Party because theyd be grateful for getting this boost to their paychecks. None of that is the case. The tax cuts are deeply under water, and weve just kind of let it go. We know its to be expected. Of course republicans would lie about tax cuts paying for themselves. Theyve always lied about it. And i just think thats incredibly disappointing that theyre getting away with breaking tons of promises. President trump is not the only one who misleads about the economy and tax cuts. Mark meadows made b. S. Statements about the impeachment debate the other day. Weve lowered the bar to impeach a president that continues to give us an economy that not only is growing but growing at levels that we have never seen in the history of our country. Is that true, katherine . None of that is correct. Not a a Strong Economy should be a get of impeachment free card. Its not. But as i said were growing at about 2 this year. We grew at about 2 on average during obamas second term before we had the 2 trillion tax cut. Thats below the long term post war average of about 3 . Its below what it was when bill clinton was impeached. When bill clinton was impeached we were growing at 4 . Is it trump fans are exaggerating the growth . Yes. All i hear is the economy. The Economy Today is not substantially different from the economy before Trump Took Office. Its not like you can point to a point in the decline of unemployment where you can see that Trump Took Office and the red sea parted and people gained job. These are basically the same trends we saw before despite the fact that theres been fiscal stimulous trump has pumped into the economy through higher spending. Were not seeing payoff. Because the economy has not crashed, for some reason trump gets to claim credit for the fact that things are okay. The Bigger Picture here is something you wrote for cnn. Com. You said i lived in the post soviet world i hear the echoes in trumps america. Is this the echo . Its worse. In the soviet union we had to struggle to find alternative sources of information. Here i just push a button. So swipe your finger on the phone. Its amazing that trump succeeded in just separating people. Its like red state reality, moose state reality. For instance the senator from canada lied about ukraine interference in elections on fox and then apologized to cnn. We see it thats right. Yes. Cnn anchorman could attack him demanding that he would apologize on fox. Thats what he did, and unfortunately its very little response from media forcing them to actually to bring truths to the fox audience. Thats an interesting term. Red state reality and blue state reality. Is it that simple . I think there are two different realities, and two different sets of, quote, unquote facts. Thats how propaganda works in a book i wont new england thats famous by a person i wont mention who is very awful, you know, he said propaganda works by appealing to feelings. And not our reasoning abilities. So to that extent, the propaganda is working. Id like to push back on something katherine said and the piece that she wrote, stringing all of these lies and broken promises together is really important and really good work. But im not sure hes getting away with it. I think the media is really holding him and republicans accountable. For example, she wrote about it yesterday. Youre talking about it today. I talked about it on my show yesterday. The media at large employs people just to fact check now. The president has broken promises. His lies. If you compare that, i think, to obamas media, for example, i think they were a lot more helpful in sort of the more subtle misleadings that obama participated in during his administration. Obama never made claims like this. Well, his lie of the year which was if you like your health insurance, if you like your provider, you can keep your doctor, that was parroted by a lot of people in the press. They wanted to believe it was true. I think trump gets more scrutiny. Deservedly so, but i think to say that trump and republicans are getting away with a lie is where the media is concerned is just not true. Now, where voters are concerned, will voters hold trump and republicans accountable . Well have to see in 2020. It was not a great Midterm Election for republicans in 2018, and i think a lot of the lies and broken promises probably had something to do wit. Katherine . Look, on the point about obamas claim about you can keep your if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Actually, a lot of Health Writers pointed out that was incorrect at the time. But leaving obama aside but a lot of news personalities did not. I cant account for i dont know thats the case, but whatever. Were not talking about bauchob. The point is about trump. Okay. Thats the point of this. Right . Trump keeps repeating the lies. He and mark meadows and others have figured out a lot of times the media wont call them out. Its about how great the economy is. The economy is quite good. Right. I think its the news overload. When theres 100 things going on at all times and 100 crazy claims, it feels like an overwhelming situation. I think the problem is that the way people process information is when you repeat the lie, even if its to debunk the lie, people remember the lie. They remember it about the economy. They remember it about whether or not ukraine was interfering with the 2016 election in the case of the john kennedy quote youre talking about. What happens is the news cycle becomes about the crazy thing that was said, and even if the media, which i think has not done a sufficient job at debunking things. Even if members of the media attempt to debunk them, we amplify the thing that needs to be debunked. Its a difficult challenge for people covering the claims. Whether its about National Security or electoral int interference. This was the year the White House Press briefing died, the on camera press briefing. Its been 28 6 days since a formal press briefing. Does this kind of thing matter, this transparency, this symbolic transparency that goes away in the United States. Does it matter . I made the prediction in 2016 after trumps elections. It doesnt happen overnight. People have the wrong impression about tidictatorships being bui. It happens in many places, day by day, night by night. This is not a dictatorship. No. But its a road to perdition. It takes time. Looking at 2016 and now, 2016 elections value dated trumps style. God forbid hes elected in 2020. Thats validation of his methods. You say its trump. Trump has a family. Thats why if those within the trump world will be gone by 2020, i can remind them he has a daughter and son and its no longer gop. Its trumps body. Even worse, there are people who will be following trumps successful technique. Look at the republicans. They keep repeating the greatest economy, huge. Its amazing this the republicans today are just no longer reliable sources. You can say that. The only reliable puppets. One more example before a break for se. One more example of the road. Steven miller is revealed to be sending links to White Nationalist websites. It was exposed and this week 25 jewish members of Congress Called for trump to fire miller. Its getting skipped or missed. Yeah. Its a huge story, and a lot of us had been pointing out steven millers odiousness by virtue of how close he was to the president ial right wing circles. This is a big problem if you look at the raise in hate crime and antisemitism and right wing nationalism and terrorism, domestic terrorism, its coincided with a lot of trumps empowering of people like steven miller. So youre right. Its a big story, and it should be getting more coverage, and around this time of year, and with all of these other big stories like impeachment in 2020 elections, it might not get the importance and attention that it deserves. All right. Everybody please stand by. More with the crew in a few moments. Next, inside the Washington Post news room with marty baron. Hear from him next. Up here at the dewars distillery, all our whiskies are aged, blended and aged again. Its the reason our whisky is so extraordinarily smooth. Dewars. Double aged for extra smoothness. And i like to question your im yoevery move. N law. Like this left turn. Its the next one. You always drive this slow . How did you make someone i love . That must be why youre always so late. 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Stories about real people affected by political decisions. That is what we need more of. Thats what the post has been doing through the investigations of things like the Opioid Crisis and the afghan war. So you can understand why the posts editor marty baron doesnt get worked up about the critiques of the paper of the political coverage. Theres more going on at the post. He pointed out in an interview, the post takes incoming from both sides. Were not just a target for people on the right but also sometimes for people on the left as well. I think its important to remember that. And so people find it convenient to attack us, because they want people to just believe them and not believe any independent arbiter of facts. We have to advocate for open mindedness in every direction. It seems like some of the politicians and their surrogates want to close peoples minds and get people not to think at all. Not be critical thinkers. Yeah. I keep thinking back to a Supreme Court ruling by the Supreme Court Justice Robert jackson in 1945 where he said that every person must be his own watchman for the truth, because our forefathers didnt trust any government to separate the truth and the false for us. I think that still holds obviously today and perhaps even more so today. Yeah. Where every person needs to use their own judgment, their independent judgment and evaluate the facts in front of them. But actually, look at the facts. Marty, wen i look at the Washington Post websites and i look at red lists, i see articles about trump and a lot of opinion, but also investigative stories. Most recently the afghanistan papers. This was a project years in the making by the post. I wonder how youve made room and time in the budget to pay for this investigative reporting. We think its central to our mission to do investigations, to hold government to account, to hold all powerful individuals and powerful institutions to account. Thats why we have a free press in this country. Thats why James Madison in crafting the First Amendment talked about freely examining public characters and measures. Thats the whole idea behind having an independent press. So its really important that we dedicate resources to those kinds of efforts. This was an incredibly important one. Weve been at this war for more than 18 years now. Obviously we became aware of a trove of interviews with over 400 individuals about their assessment of the war and what was known about the war as it was unfolding. And we wanted to get access to that. We thought it was important for the American Public to know about that. And so we were certainly willing to expend all the resources necessary, reptorial resources and editing and Legal Resources to obtain that information. When you look back at the past 12 months, what other investigations have moved the needle . We spent a lot of time looking at the Opioid Crisis this past year. We also went to court for that to obtain data that would show how wholesalers distributed opioids across the country and areas of the country that received a disproportionate amount of that, of opioids as well. And so thats a very serious matter, and its something that we also devoted an enormous amount of time to. That pain pills investigation was incredible. You know, you obtained this data and opened it up to the news outlets across the country. Could also dig into the files and do their own reporting. Tell me if im wrong, that feels like the kind of collaboration or cooperation that wouldnt have happened a couple decades ago. I think its really important that we be more transparent about how we go about our work and make our work available to other news organizations and individuals in general so they can see what weve been able to gather. They can look at it for themselves. Other news organizations should be able to produce stories based on that data. We cant do everything here at the Washington Post. We have about 850 journalists in the news room. Our resources are limited nonetheless. To the extent that we can make Data Available to other news organizations so they can pursue the stories in their own communities, i think thats an Important Role for an organization like ours. I liked how when the gan papers with published by the post, you sent an email to subscribers that said this is what we do with your subscriber support. This is what we pay for. Going to court. Looking for documents. Its not just enough to ask people to subscribe. You have to keep telling them why it matters and why its useful and why they should stay subscribed. Its true. I think its important that we keep reminding readers where their money goes. Its also important that we keep reminding readers how expensive it is to practice this sort of journalism. It is expensive to have a news room of 850 people. It is expensive to have to go to court twice over the course of three years to obtain information like that which was part of the afghanistan papers, and investigations take a long time. And with an uncertain result at the end of time. If readers want us to pursue those kinds of stories, clearly theyre going to have to pay for it. Marty baron, thank you so much. Thank you, brian. You can hear more from marty on this weeks reliable sources podcast available at reliablesources. Com or wherever you consume your podcast. Reports of Sexual Harassment and the down fall of a media mogul. Bomb shell. At tmobile, were lighting up 5g, and when you buy a samsung note 10 5g, you get one free. Plus you can experience it on the nations largest 5g network. So do this. On that. With us. Buy a samsung note 10 5g and get one free when you add a line. 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Back in 2016 when Gretchen Carlson sued ailes, that was the beginning of the domino effect that continues to fall to this day. Bombshell is getting buzz. Its nabbed four sag awards and its out in theaters nationwide. Joining me now is the director of the film. Why did you decide fox news . Well, it was an interesting place for this to happen. This was a year before the Harvey Weinstein news launched the me too movement to another level. It was sort of astonishing that these women who doesnt look at themselves as a feminist, megyn kelly, ended up being the ones to take down this major media titan sexual predator, roger ailes. It seemed like an incredible predigment. It w predicament. It was emotional talking to them. I thought it would be a good forum to get some of the issues out. Absolutely. The film also looks beyond the final days of the roger ailes era. What fox news is and what it does. Let me play a little clip from the film. You have to adopt the mentality of an irish street cop. The world is a bad place. People are lazy morons. Minorities are criminals. Sex is sick but interesting. Ask yourself what would scare my grandmother or piss off my grandfather. Thats a fox story. The screen writer addressing thats the fox formula. Is this just another liberal hollywood takedown of fox . You know, we have talked very much about how its not a partisan issue. Your colleague on your show, s. E. Cupp wrote a piece about this is an issue of men who have power turning this i love her phrase, turning it into a sort of Sexual Harassment industrial complex. An interesting way of looking at it. That its about ego centric men who get addicted to power who require people often women to show them loyalty in this case, with sexual favors. Like, that doesnt seem like its something that happens in my industry and in news and it happens in everywhere across companies. Yeah. Im thinking to myself, wheres the matt lauer movie, or leless moon vez. Are those coming . Theres a great documentary about Harvey Weinstein. And a story about a journalist who trying to just get that story out and how a corporation can try to suppress that. That certainly, i hope, i would happily make that movie. I saw you saying you would love to do something on the ukraine scandal, something on the news. I heard someone call this the year of the whistleblower. I think thats an incredible story. Our story is about whistleblowers too, Gretchen Carlson was a whistleblower. Sort of saying hey, this bullying in our company has to stop. Again, a year before people were around to support her doing that, you know, she sort of took that on alone. I am always going to root for people who take on especially powerful men. Thats a great point. Jay, thank you so much. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me, brian. A holiday gift giving gift reliable sources style when we come back. 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A supply of strong coffee. Stay awake and be vigilant. Katherine . A vacation. A real vacation. That means in the next week you know, theres no major breaking news. No incendiary trump tweets at 4 00 a. M. No trade wars or hot wars. A little bit of a break. I think we could all use it. A short vacation, please. Enough to rejuvenate. 2020 is around the corner. A new years resolution for the media. Resolution. I think we need to spend more time covering what the government is actually doing and a little less time about what members of the government are saying about each other and whos ahead in the horse race. The goal is not to win more elections, its to elect people who will do things that will change peoples lives whether were talking about health care or paychecks or anything else. I think there needs to be more coverage of those issues. Garry, what about you . Used to be hear from both sides, democrats, republicans, conservatives, liberals. Now its simple. Its truth versus lies. And i think this is what should be done is just keep repeating the facts. Stop giving equal times to lies and also just remember that outdated sense of fairness is killing governments. Steve, to you, its 2020. Were going to be in primary election season, caucuses. Whats your new years resolution. I would like all of us to resolve to be just as scruitinous of the 2020 candidates as we have been of trump. I think we give trump a lot of attention. He requires a lot of attention and scrutiny but i dont think that means we can ease up on the gas when it comes to paying as close attention to all of these candidates. They deserve just as much scrutiny and analysis and reverse journalism as he does. Happy hanukkah, merry christmas. More reliable sources in just a minute. Thats why we go beyond the numbers. T. Rowe price. Invest with confidence. The zip code youre born into can determine your future. Your school. Your job. Your dreams. 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