For journalists in america since 9 11. And today in the aftermath of the attack in annapolis, the Capital Gazette is honoring their five fallen colleagues with this front page. Even after the newsroom was turned into a bulletriddled war zone, the Capital Gazette continued to publish. Theres been three editions since thursday. Theres also been an incredible outpouring of support from the community. A reminder of the power of local journalism and the importance that it has in the lives of so many americans. We want to talk in depth about what happened at the Capital Gazette office on thursday and how the papers recovering now. Lets start by talking to two staffers in one after their first interviews. Rachel pachella and phil davis were inside of the newsroom on thursday. Two of the six survivors from inside the building. Thank you so much for coming on the program. Absolutely. Thank you for having us. Rachel, i know you are injured. You have what looks like a black eye a few days later. Can you tell us how youre doing physically . Im fine. It looks a lot better than it was. This was looking kind of bad and i got the chance to kind of wash it and clean all the blood off this morning, and it is looking great. Im glad to hear it. You sound as if youre on the mend, but i know, you know, on thursday you were trying to flee the office when the shots rang out. In this mornings Baltimore Sun, one of your colleagues was quoted saying, id never seen someone fight for their life like that. What did you do . What did you do when you heard the shots . I was working at my computer. I was actually trying to finish up a story about induction day. Rob sent me a message saying you didnt send a photo in from that press conference earlier. I said ill get on that. Thats when the shooting occurred. I heard a gunshot, glass shattered. I kind of reck niced it immediately and i ducked under my desk. Then i heard more and realized under the desk was not a safe place to be. You could look around and you see me. So i made a sprint for the door. I think i tripped im pretty sure i tripped. I may have run straight into the door frame, to be honest. But i hit my head really hard against the door frame. I was bleeding. And then obviously, you know, when i did try the door handle to get out it was barricaded. So i hopped over in between some filing cabinets and hid there. Phil, you were under a desk. I guess you werent able to run at that point. You had to stay under your desk. What did you do . No, no. I me. Oh, sorry. Yeah. To describe what i was going through at the time, i was in a similar position to her. We work in the same part of the bullpen for reporters. And i had what i thought was a decent hiding spot. So i thought my best chances would be under there. So i hid, i could hear most of it. I heard all of it, to be honest. I didnt see most of it until i was able to walk out afterward. But yeah as i was hiding under my desk, i had my work phone on me and i just happened to have a Text Exchange with sergeant amy migez, the spokesperson for the Annapolis Police department that was already open because i think i was texting her about Something Else or i was about to before it happened. And i started texting her that what was happening, what was going on. Because when there was kind of a silent point as to what was happening, i didnt know if the guy had left. I didnt know what was going on. I didnt want to call 911. So i just started to text her as quickly as i could what was happening. Once she grasped it, she said she called 911 and told me to stay as low as i could. And that may be one of the reasons why police were able to arrive so quickly. Still, out of the 11 people in the office, 5 died. You mentioned one of them, rachel. Rob. One of the editors. Why is it, rachel, that you think you were spared . Is it simply where you were in the building . Was it that simple . Well, i thought about this a lot. I remembered this yesterday, because, you know its weird because wednesday i actually left my laptop at home. I forgot it. And wednesday i had to sit up front near rob and gerald and use a spare computer up there. So i guess im happy that that happened on wednesday and not on thursday. Oh, my god. Yeah. And i spared isnt the right term. You know . Maybe i hid well . I was very scared because i was bleeding pretty bad i dly. If he had looked over and seen the trail of blood to where i was, i think it would have been easy to find me. I dont know a lot of i havent read through a lot of the details about, like i know you said maybe he ran out of bullets. I dont know. I dont know. I dont know. We may never know. I know rachel you were rushed to the hospital. When did you find out that some of your colleagues were dead . You know, i think that the police and the folks at the hospital did a good job of kind of i dont want to say i wanted information. As journalists i wanted information. You know that. I kept asking for information. They just said they didnt know anything. It was probably around 9 00 after i had done the stuff at the hospital, been discharged, get to the police station, and i told them i wanted information. We agreed well do the interview first to be nice and calm. And then after, you know, my first question was is anyone dead. Of course, you know we had to step over wendis body when we were leaving. But i didnt know if she was definitely dead. But that was when they told me several people died. A little while later they said it was five people. And then i had actually reconnected with another survivor who was also injured. And she was the one who told me sort of which people had died. And we have their faces on screen now. Wendi, gerald, john, rebecca, rob. Phil, how does the paper go on as a practical matter when youve lost 75 years of journalism experience . In a practical sense . I can tell you a common shared view of our personalities and who we are, i dont think when i read chases quote yesterday, i wont repeat it, but it was exactly how i felt. I remember actually when i was sleeping at a friends house after it happened after we were done with police and everything. I was still checking case search, im sure you know how that works. The cases here are pretty public. I searched for the guys name late at night to see if they had officially charged him. I guess they had filed it officially late that night. I was still i actually kind of felt like, when i saw the bail review hearing that was going to be at 10 30, even though it was maybe 4 00 in the morning, i was thinking maybe i should contact my editor to be like, i dont think im going to be able to go to that or something to that regard. But then i woke up at 10 45 the next morning, and i was like, man, i cant believe i wasnt there. Obviously you check the docket every day as part of his job. Definitely. And look, im glad so many outlets have avoided saying his name too much, showing the suspects picture too much. Its clearly not about him. As you said, phillip, the vigil on friday night, the story is about these five victims. And their lives, their contributions. I did wonder as i read more about them, did any of you fear this might happen . Was there a fear, phil, that this could happen some day . Not to this extent. No. Never. It really is you know, ive been reading a lot of the stories about the community and the way it kind of coalesced around us. It is such a tight knit community. And certainly, you know, weve had our fair share of blows in terms of commenters or people that are upset with the type of coverage we write. Because we still try to even though were a small paper, were critical and investigative. We go after the tough story no matter how small our newsroom might be now. But never had we ever gotten a response to a story like that that really made us fear any amount of violence. Once we had started learning the charges and what hes alleged to have or rather the lawsuit previously and the alleged connection between his motive and that lawsuit, i mean, that was 2012. Neither of us were here then. Never on our minds. I think its notable that police have not yet said that they know the motive. We know the grudge he had against the paper, but we dont know what caused him to snap. Im sorry, rachel. Go ahead. Oh, i was just going to say in the ambulance, that was one of the things i was thinking of. I was thinking a lot first, i want to say im proud of my colleagues. Because when i was in there, i just was like, theres not going to be a paper tomorrow. Thats so weird. Theres not going to be a paper. Theres not going to be a paper. There was a paper. Thats wonderful. And one of the other things i said was just, what could we have done to make people hate us so much . Why do people hate the media . What could we have done to deserve this . And i thought maybe it was connected to the election that was on tuesday. We did a lot of election coverage. Oh, yeah, the primary. Yeah. But yeah. I couldnt i didnt expect this. And i couldnt i couldnt fathom or think of any reason someone would do this to us afterwards. Are you having any second thoughts about journalism as a profession now . You want to answer that for or want me to go . I havent weve been told not to make any kind of big decisions. But i want to be a journalist. Its who i am. Yeah. Its difficult. You know, im sure there are a bunch of people in the truck and you as well that understand that when you get attached to the industry it becomes an intricate part of your life. Something you really cant lose and something that people cant take away from you. Even in light of this, you know, we dont know how long its going to take to recover. We dont know what tomorrow looks like, but at the same time, i can kind of look at myself in the mirror and say he didnt take that away from me. For me, yeah, far in the future . I dont know 100 . But its i dont think ive ever had a moment in my life since i first became a reporter that i ever thought it wouldnt be a part of my life, like, ever. Yeah. It feels like its going to be there no matter what. Even if we dont come back, its still going to be there. Rachel and phil, thank you so much for coming on the program today. Thank you for having us and letting us tell our story. Coming up, another part of this story. As rachel was saying, the continued publication of the Capital Gazette. Were going to talk to one of the staffers who rushed to the scene of the shooting and kept the paper printing after the attack. Pl right after this. Es, hes less confident. Here, yogi. 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I wrote the profile and rob told me, you know, he thought it was one of my favorites of his, you know, he was always kind and encouraging. And we talked in the past about how id had some issues with confidence and i lost my voice for awhile. Ive been finding it again as a writer in these recent months. He told me he sensed that and he told me that its very important that we all find our voices. Not just in our writing but in our work lives too. I think that was very meaningful to me that he was always encouraging us like that. I did also want to share that story because i think that that message of kindness is very important right now. Yeah. It feels like hell go on. Such incredible talent weve lost. Not just annapolis, but for the state, the country. Phil, at the vigil you were telling me earlier you saw in the crowd people youd covered before, people you interviewed before. This time they wanted to come out for you. Yeah. No, them giving me, us, the whole paper the platform to grieve so publicly over Something Like that. And then to be behind us and want to share in that grief. And to see that they wanted to share in that grief. Thats honestly what helped me make the speeches i did. Because i had no intentions originally of speaking in front of that crowd. But, you know, the names of those people need to be remembered. Thats a big part of why were doing this. Is that you can see that those Community Members were so att h attached to those people and the stories we heard throughout the day, you know, only informed the support structure we had underneath us at that paper in terms of all the people that were unfortunately killed that day. I cant thank the annapolis people and the Anne Arundel Community enough. They were all there. I told you this even yesterday, brian. A couple months ago when a tenth grader in Anne Arundel County had a march, i did a paper on that story. Phil was covered that. That was his saturday shift and he was there to write about it. Then last night the girl who organized that march or friday night, the girl who organized that march, she played the bagpipes and she was leading the way as we walked down main street. Wow. Thank you, again, phil and rachel. Thanks for letting me bring you back. I appreciate it. Thank you for having us. I want to turn to Capital Gazette photojournalist now. Hes near the office turned crime scene. Josh, i wanted to ask you about what happened right after the shooting. You were not there, thankfully. You rushed to the scene. How did you help get this paper published that night . Its an incredible story. Thank you, brian. I mean, i dont know if its that incredible. I think we did what any newsroom would have done. You know, when i arrived on scene, i just did my job and i photographed what was happening. I tweeted a batch of pictures. I did some more, i tweeted more. And then i hooked up with my comrades chase cook and pat ferguson. And we just went to work. We didnt we went to work gathering facts and trying to figure out who was safe. Thats just what we did. Hundreds of people across the u. S. Have subscribed to your paper as a show of solidarity. And for now i know that the staff has been working up in baltimore at the office of the parent company, the Baltimore Sun. I saw this morning in the paper your editor was quoted saying we will never go back to that office space. But now theres a search for new office space. You are trying to figure out where to relocate in annapolis. How do you think this is going to change the paper . I think its going to make us stronger. I think, you know, journalists especially newspaper journalists and Community Newspaper journalists, theyre a special bunch. You know, so many people have come through the capital newsroom over the decades. And they knew the mission and they all know the mission. I think this will only just rededicate us, rededicate us to this mission. I mean, this isnt going to stop us. And especially when i think about my friends that we lost, theres nothing i want to do more than get back to work and get another newspaper to cover. Stay with us. I mentioned the Baltimore Sun has helped che eed keep them on feet to publish. This highlighted the facts so many newsrooms get so many threats, so much hate mail. Sometimes straight up death threats. How are you viewing what happened on thursday . Brian, one of the things is im surprised at how moved i am by what happened at the Capital Gazette and how profound an experience it is and the courage and the dedication of the people youve just had on and reading the obituaries and knowing rob hiaasen well. We worked together for 15 years. The ever laexemplary lives they. One of the stories that is important in a practical sense and this is a media show, is the advantage of being part of Something Like the Baltimore Sun media group. Because the production and design is done in baltimore. Thursday when that happened, the sun newsroom went into all hands on deck. Which i had not seen and experienced since the death of freddie gray in 2015. And we just played an auxiliary role. Those folks did it. But there are so many people at the sun that worked at the gazette and feel deeply about it. Feel totally involved in it. And everybody just said whatever we can do, you can do. If you look at a video of the vigil that was shot by a superb young videographer who just came to the sun last year from the gazette, thats the kind of synergy. Its way beyond synergy. Its triable. Its brotherhood, its sisterhood between the two publication. That really clicked in. And i really hope this. You know, phil said he wanted those folks, the five to be remembered. And hes so right. And one of the ways we can remember him, i hope everybody will read the obituaries at the gazette and at the sun and in the post and in the times and everywhere else. A great obituary makes you see the person as a human being. Were being dehumanized. And thats my takeaway. Somebody tells you were scum or were enemy of the people, think about these people and see if what you know about them from those obituaries matches up with that description. Joshua, do you feel this was just an isolated incident . A suspect with a grudge against the paper . Or do you think theres something about antimedia rhetoric becoming louder and more dangerous . I think there have always been threats to newsrooms. Its always been something youve known in the back of your mind. Its not for me to report whether the rhetoric has raised this or had anything to contribute with this. I dont know the facts. I know our job as a newspaper and journalists is to create empathy. Thats how ive always viewed my job. And i think were lacking that. Were lacking weve never talked and yelled at each other more than we do now. And yet were not its not working. Nothing is sinking in. You know, i want to rededicate the rest of my career in helping to create more empathy and dedication. Because thats where were missing. Thats where the shrill chaos seems to be winning. But its not winning and its not going to win. I was talking with the camera man, you know, five days ago i showed up on an assignment and they said somebody from the crowd repper here. I wasnt under any illusions that we were beloved by the community. We could be a pain in the ass to a lot of people. And then after thursday to see thousands of people show up in annapolis and, you know, thats us. Thats america. Thats who we really are. Its not twitter and its not facebook. Its not even newspapers. You know, its not even what we report. Its us were genuinely good people. And we need to get back to that. We need to get back to commuting that. I want to get back to reporting that. Im still going to report on the crooked politicians and im still going to report on the criminals and im still going to do my job like we all are. But, you know, its also my job to report on the love and kindness, kindness in our community. Boy, when you talk about who we lost, thats what wendi did. Wendi lived and breathed empathy and communication and she just wanted to share, you know, the wonderful things in our community. We are better than this. Wendi has written so many stories that are actually done in advance that are going to be published in the coming weeks which feels both heart breaking and also so appropriate, you know, that her work will be seen and will be read. Josh, final word from you . Well, subscribe to your local newspaper. And just try to remember the names of those weve lost. They were great people. They didnt deserve this. 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Nope get internet on our gigspeed network and add voice and tv for 34. 90 more per month. Call or go on line today. Is he a reporter willing to shout out tough questions or someone grand standing to boost his own profile . Cnns chief White House Correspondent jim acosta has become the face of the trump administrations combative relationship with the press. Dont be rude. Dont be rude. No, im not going to give you a question. I am not going to give you a question. You are fake news. Thats not what i said and i know its hard for you to understand even short sentences, i guess. Trump has escalated his antimedia rhetoric. So what is it like to be jim acosta . To come facetoface with angry Trump Supporters at rallies. Jim acosta is joining me now here in new york. Thank you for coming on. Thanks for having me. Some people were yelling go home to you. Then others asking for autographs. Does that in a nutshell describe this twisting relationship . I think it does to some extent. Listen. People are going to yell at us. Theyre going to tell us to go home. Were not going to go home. Were going to do our jobs. This elderly woman was whipping up the crowd into a frenzy and getting them to say go home, jim. But at the same time, you know, we talked to other people who said, hey, i dont agree with what you do or say but you have a right to do it. There was a man that came up and asked if anybody had a chair we could lend so his elderly mother could sit down. I was happy to hand over my chair. I was talking with the gentleman. It was interesting. He said, i didnt realize that, you know, you were going to sing the National Anthem when the National Anthem played in the rally. Interesting. Or say the pledge of allegiance. I said, i went to Elementary School in this country. Im an american. I know how to say the pledge of allegian allegiance. Sometimes its getting oneonone with these folks, american to american. When you have that oneonone interaction, people tend to let some of those biases, some of those prejudices theyve developed from watching fox news and so on to break away and you can have a real conversation. Speaking of fox, we found out what happened when you shout a question at the president or others. Lets look at the video. Thank you very much. That true, mr. President . What about the daca kids . Should they worry about whats going to happen to them . Hows it going, sir . When you yell questions, jim, fox news and others attack you for having an outburst, asking harsh questions, grand standing. These are some of the headlines from foxnews. Com. Right. Why do you think theres so much resentment or criticism of the way you do this . Well, to some extent, you know, the president and fox news, they dont have barack obama around anymore. They dont have hillary clinton. Although they go after her a lot. They replaced obama and hillary. They need somebody to attack. I think that weve sort of filled that role. Part of the issue is that i think, you know, instead of wanting to focus on the president s behavior, theyd rather focus on our reporting on the president s behavior. For example, yesterday, you know, he tweeted out a bunch of false things that he had watched ms13 take toliberate towns. Show us the towns. And theres another that said i didnt recommend that republicans go after and adopt new immigration legislation. That obviously you know, that is a direct contradiction to something he tweeted earlier in the week. So we spend a lot of our time spinning our wheels calling out his falsehoods. That consum consumes a lot of the coverage. People think all were doing is bashing the president. We spend a lot of time Fact Checking the president. And Fact Checking sounds like bashing to a part of the population. Thats right. And i think, you know, listen. There are folks on the conservative side, i refer to them as the maga phone. They by and large just echo what the president wants to hear and what he wants to say. We see that a lot happening over on fox news. I told people at that rally in columbia, were not just going to do the news for the republicans. We have to do the news for everybody. You may not like what you hear all the time. The question i ask to a lot is are you deciding watching cnn or other networks, our rifvals and their coverage of what we do. Thats a great part. What i find is people are developing their impressions of us by watching hannity and so on. Watch us and make up your own mind. I wrote down some of the slurs said about you. Point is, though, when youre in the back of the room like you were on friday and you shout a question to trump and he probably cant even hear it, isnt it true that youre kind of doing that just to get attention . Well isnt that part of what youre doing . On friday when i was shouting that question, i thought, first of all, he keeps calling us the enemy of the people. Somebody ought to ask him after what happened in annapolis are you going to continue to call us the enemy of the people . They put him on the other side of the room. There was a moment towards the end of that event where he was walking towards us. I thought heres a chance to shout a question to him. On occasion he does answer the question. Its not unreasonable to ask. Its not like we barge into the easter regular roll to ask questioned. What people dont understand is typically at the end of these pool opportunities where we go in and talk to the president or he has an event, we wait until the very end of the bill signing or the event or whatever he has and he says, thanks, guys. Then well go in and ask our questions. People dont understand theres a process to it. You know, we typically adhere to that process. Now, of course if theyre not going to take our questions we have to find opportunities to ask those questions. Kind of like Sam Donaldson did decades ago. Thats right. Listen, if they want to send me to hell, ill still be shouting at the devil, is the way i look at it. We have a job to do. Ive said this times before and ill say it again. They can kick us out of the briefing room, out of the white house. Were still going to do our jobs. And my attitude is that we fill a necessary role in our democracy. The rest of the world is watching us. They dont understand how they can cause fake news and my response to all that is my goodness. Are we supposed to sit back and no do nothing . My sense of it is that you have to push back. Real quick i saw sean spicer is out pitching a tv show, a talk show. Has he tried to book you . Yes, i did get a request for that. We politely turned that down. My sense of it is is that sean has sort of crossed the line from, you know, being somebody who is a former press secretary to somebody who wants to resurrect his career and go on fox news and bash cnn. If hes going to do that, i dont think we should give him time to do that. If he wants to have a civil exchange, im willing to do that, but my feeling up until this point is that hes just not willing to do that. You know, until that happens, im not really willing to go into that kind of situation. And one of the big stories this week was about the former fox news copresident now taking a big job at the white house. Hes going to be in a Big Communications role. Its kind of controversial. Because shine had to leave fox in the wake of the roger ailes scandal. There were kwels aboquestions a he handled the complaints. Hes denied all wrong doing, but this controversy continues. I wonder what its going to mean to have a former fox news copresident running communications at the white house. Do we have a sense of what thats going to be like . We have so many people from fox news who work at the white house or have worked at the white house that this is just a further, i guess, meshing of these two entities. The white house and fox news. And, you know, what we have in this country right now and people need to be aware of it is we dont have what we have traditionally seen as the medias role in this country as having essentially a free press. We have what i consider to be a system of state supported media. You have a white house, a president that lends so much support to one individual news network which gives them beneficial coverage that it has changed the nature of what we view as being our system of delivering the news in this country. I think we have a system where one Network Benefits from a very symbiotic relationship from the white house. And we all have to grapple with that on a daily basis as you know. On a daily basis, we think the president is watching fox friends that hes going to tweet about it every morning. We spend every day is he going on fox news to talk to somebody and we have to cover that. His top aides go on fox news. You see this in the driveway of the white house. Theyll go out and then the press in the press room will respond, run out to the driveway and try to get those aides coming back in because they wont talk to us individually. Theyll go on fox news because they know theyll get a friendly platform. There were a couple days sanders didnt have a briefing. Instead went on hannity and bashed us. So listen. This is a very symbiotic relationship. Its a very hard nut to crack. I think bill shine going to the white house is just furthering that symbiotic relationship. Its something were going to have to grapple with. I hope he understands going in there hes going to be working on behalf of the American People not just one segment. 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Its a question that continues to be asked. Does the news media need to cover President Trump differently . I recently sat down with one of the top editors in the country marty baron. Executive editor of the Washington Post. I interviewed him on stage at the aspen ideas festival. I asked him, is this moment in time truly different . The media critiquing the left. Its a crisis and us journalists have to cover it differently than bush or obama or other past president s. Cover a crisis differently. Do you subscribe to that at all . I mean, are there things that the post is doing differently today . Certainly, were perhaps more blunt than we were in the past. More blunt about calling out falsehoods than we did in the past. Because theres so many of them. And theyre so blatant. So i think that we feel an obligation to do that. I dont think we need to reorder the entire way that we do our jobs as journalists. And, look. We dont want to look. Steve bannon tried to call us the Opposition Party. We dont see ourselves as the Opposition Party and were not inclined to tell brace the notions of some people who would like us to be the Opposition Party. Were an independent News Organization. Were independent of all parties. And all ideologies. And so what our were faithful. We try to be faithful to the facts wherever they may fall. Your famous line is that were not at war, were at work. Right. Going to be on my tombstone, apparently. I think it is. But if one sides at war and the other side is a pacifist, doesnt the pacifist lose . Well, i guess thats a way that you would frame it. Its not the way i would frame it. I think we just have a job to do. And i think that we have the greatest credibility when we do our jobs honestly, honorable, accurately, fairly, diligently, energetically, unflinchingly, and that is what we try to do. And the public can come to their own conclusions. Such a great point martys making there. 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