Been nominated. The woman who could be the next secretary of state walked straight into the lions den. What happened to susan rice behind closed doors. Why are some trying to turn this into a racial battle . The report is in on the british phone scandal and the report is in. Reckless, outrageous, inaccurate and unfair. Tonight the report from a british judge that says the press needs legal regulation. How much has the inve investigation tarnished murdock . Chris brown got into a twitter car over the weekend. Some really degrading comments from chris brown who really needs to learn how to avoid these kinds of things. Why does a man who beat up his girlfriend have 11 million followers . Sometimes rummors turn out o be true. Jeff zucker was the logical choice so it was hardly a shock when he got the job. He talked about the cable news wars and why his cable outlet was moving left in an interview two years ago with charlie rose. I think ive always encouraged our folks to watch fox news and learn frp it. Nobody should hold their nose. Is that the reason msnbc decided its in our interest and future to make sure that we get people like Keith Oberman who can play in his arena with the same kind of passion they play in their arena . I think what you learn in the cable news and information world is that news and information is ubiquitous. He didnt minimize the challenge he face at cnn. What does he bring to the job and in what direction should he take the network . Joining us now here in washington is critic for the baltimore sun. Frank says no. Fred francis former nbc correspondent and founder of 15 seconds. Com. Fred, you spent years at nbc. What was jeff zucker life as a leader of the truth . Very personalable. Not uncommon for jeff to leave his office for 30, 40 minutes each day. Sometimes morning and afternoon and just walk around and chat with people and not just the stars at the to the shtoday sho or magazine show and no what stories they were working on. That was his detail. Knowing his people and thats where people became so loyal to him. He became producer of the today show at 26 and launched that morning show for a 16year run. How would you describe his track record has a news man . Its terrific. The today show led the way. What he demonstrated there and has demonstrated since is an imagination to know that cnn needs to know its news can be more than politics and war. News goes across the board and touches people in a thousand ways. You got to do the great story telling. When he left nbc people said, critics said he took over and left the network in fourth place in the ratings. On the entertainment side he had some well publicized missteps, Conan O Brien leaving the network. Your thoughts . Thats the worst thing you can say about him. The analysis doesnt include is any sense of perspective and context. Its nbc sunday football lets carry it back. It was all cut, cut, cut. Cheaper programs networks wouldnt touch a primetime drama because it was too expensive. It was a gamble that doesnt pay off. I interviewed zucker the other day he said he believes cnn needs more energy and passion. What hes going to bring to Television Journalism is whats really needed. Hes going to bring a vision and a voice. To cnn hes going to bring a voice. Hell zero in just like he did in all his years at nbc in the news division. Is cnn lacking a voice . I believe it is. When you watch cnn here in washington and cnn in new york, its like youre watching three different networks. Thats going to change. Hes also going to bring a blank check. Jeff knows how to spend money. Somebodys got to give him the checkbook. He wouldnt have taken this job if he didnt have a blank check to change things. Im passionate and ill jump out of my chair doing it if thats what it takes. Cnn desperately needs a voice. The voice is already there. Its built in. It just needs to be imply fam m amplified. You know that zucker will be up against the cautious culture of an atlanta base network that have stuck to a traditional fuse format. I believe he will blow that up. Its going to be scary to some people. I say we still because i care so much about this place. I care about this place because what it means for news and journalism and largely what it means to the country. This money thing that fred mentioned is important. Somebody that comes from network news kind of money. If you get somebody in here that came out of basic cable and wanted to look good and said i know hold w i can make that bot line jump up, well slash infrastructure. That will be bad for journalism in this country. I agree with all that. Cable news is also a business. It is. To make money at it. I understand. Cnns problem for years and years has been getting people to watch when theres no breaking news, no war, no earth wake, no assassination. Thats going to be part of the challenge. He looks at stories in a different way. Let me dpgive you a perfect example. Theres a long form story maybe over a week about facelifts. The best producer in washington pitching the story was the wittiest producer. After everybody heard the pitch jeff said you do the facelift. That was a 30, 40,000. She did it on the air. Some people would call that a stunt. It works. Theres one thing that has to be said now, this is cnn now too. People dont need when we went on the air, when cnn went on the air it was the only game in the town. Its so not the only game in town and television is not the only way to get information. Its not just going to be about doing great stories. I try not to fall into the trap of only judging programs by ratings but lets look at the nielson numbers. Msnbc 511,000. Cnn, 390,000. Fox does better in prime time. Ratings are not only the measure of success but theyre important. Cnn is an incredibly attractive ad environment. Its not just ratings. I cant stress this. This is the tricky thing for whoever runs cnn. This is cnn, this nations last Television Journalism. You can make money pi cutting this channel down to msnbc and fox are. Sure they have ratings in primetime but they dont do anything but spend their money. I read somewhere he said hes such a newsie hell be like a kid in a candy store. He is the candy store. Hes the candy store to what you just said. Hes got something else. You said hes going to have a blank check. This is where all these mergers that cnn has experienced really pays off. Time warner has a lot of money. Cnn had a profit of 6400 million world wide. When you say the more id idealogical approach, sometimes the news isnt that stimulating. It is a programming challenge. Thats why its about more than politics and war. Our 401 k system is failing in this country. You may not be able to retire. I care about that. Your kids school is crumbling. I care about that. Were reinventing our cities. You can make me care about that. Were still hasnteunters and g and hunters and gathers of information. Its not brain surgery but it requires brain. He said this week that our competition isnt only fox and msnbc. Its discovery and the history channel. Its how people want to spend getting information. Its mobile devices where you dont need a linear mechanism to watch. Hell give this network a vice. Ameri america will hear it. Based on his track record some president s of network news operate behind the scenes. Hes not like that. He will be the public face. Is that an important thing . Very important. Cnn has to represent itself for its troops, public. It needs to promote not just by patting itself on the back and saying were the greatest name and explaining and yanking people in. He knows that cnn is a great news organization. I want hasnt broken any stories in a couple of years. I wouldnt say any stories. My beef has been its not been flagged. People dont see it. You have 24 hours a day. Its not like the broadcast networks we got a half hour newscast. Why are the stories that are produced and prorecorded why are they a 1 45. Why arent they five, six minutes . You have to have a really great story to hang on with the audience for four or five minutes. We live in a culture where everybody has a hand on the clicker. If you have great producers and story tellers. He found great talent and brought them up in the ranks. What about Holding People accountable which is something that Anderson Cooper tries to do. You gate lot of parties that come on and deliver the prepackaged talking pointed. This is where c nrkcnns voi should be. They will go after anybody who is in a position of authority because this is about Holding People accountable. That can be a big part of krrcn voice. Whats happening in washington is an outrage. Were tinkering with the countrys future on both sides. Cnn through interviews and stories should be grilling people. Thats part of the news. Remember on Election Night when president obama was reelected they told a story of his reelection. They went around the world to people reacting to it. Rachel maddow went into this president obama. Carl rove lost his mind. This was a smnapshot. I think he lost his mind. This is a snapshot. This is what jeff will preserve. America cares. People care. They care ware their country is going and the friends and neighbors and kids around them. Theres lots to do here. The consensus is that cnn need a voice and zucker will help provide it. When we come back, the susan rice side. Are the u. N. Ambassador and her critics getting fair coverage . You know how to dance. With a deadline. And you. Rent from national. Because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. 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And when you switch from another company to us, we even reward you for the time you spent there. Genius. Yeah, genius. You guys must have your own loyalty program, right . Well, we have something. Show her, tom. Huh . You should see november oh, yeah . Giving you more. Now thats progressive. Call or click today. Starts with arthritis pain and a choice. Take tylenol or take aleve, the 1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. Just two aleve can keep pain away all day. Back to the news. Weve had plenty of nomination fights in washington. The media is getting tired of the gaza story. It could block her promotion has secretary of state if president obama the food fight over rice not so much. Susan rice misled the american people. She didnt tell them the truth despite the evidence thats available to her. Whats the other big story of the week . Susan rice where they are wrongfully attacking a person who has done nothing wrong. The Republican Smear Campaign continues as more senators pile on. Was the coverage fair to rice . Joining us now in new york is kelly. Kelly, isnt it odd for the press to beovering a nomination that hasnt happened based on closed door meetings between susan rice an senators where we dont know what was said . In a word, yes. Its very odd. Its not odd if you look at it through the lens of some of the partisanship and the partisanism in the coverage. Originally we had fox news really trying to push this cover up and turn it into a big election related scandal. The petraeus story got more coverage than should have in an era that we have the economy and americans out of work. This is the next leg of that with the conservative media trying to push the angle theres some cover up. Theres some resentment that the story didnt gain traction. How is this for classish ii washington media controversy . Susan rice delivered the words but some other agency wrote them. Any story you can have talking points about talking points which is what were saying. The Media Coverage is shaping this, the results here. I think were reaching a point if obama doesnt nominate susan rice to be secretary of state it will be seen as his backing down and a lot of liberal base, which has really gotten upset about what it sees as an outrageous attack will be very upset. The coverage is treating her as though shes the nominee. I want to play a bit more sound from both of you. This is from msnbc where some liberal commentators are framing this in racial terms. Its outrageous theres this witch hunt going on on the right about these people of color around this president. He also gave us the horrible optics of he and Lindsey Graham as old white establishment folks attacking a much younger black woman moments after a race which blacks and women went strongly blue. Why steer this in the direction of the fact that the possible nominee is an africanamerican. What does that have to do with this controversy . To be fair its not the liberal media. I think it would be irresponsible if the media didnt cover what a member of congress is quoting as a potential allegation. They werent quoting the congressman. They were saying on their own authority they think susan rice is being beat up upon unfairly because shes a black woman. Thats a pretty toxic charge. The point im making is not as wacky when you have members of congress to say the same thing. For a member of the media to say it its not fair to say that toure is initiating this. I think the underlying charge here is absurd. Mccain supported Condoleezza Rice nomination. You can say hes being partisan. You is say its partisan but i think that charge is outrageous. I completely agree with keli that members of congress have been making this charge and it ought to be reported but i think commentators are being foolish. I dont think anyone is going around saying john mccain hates black people. I think the questions they raised are worth it in the context its like the only way to explain this is it racist to call someone lazy or cheap. In the Historical Context of our country someone labeling a jewish person lazy or a black person lazy could be racially inflammato inflammatory. When you have john mccain to say that sarah palin was qualified and that an africanamerican woman is not qualified with a phd is not qualified it can open up questions of a culture land mine that i think the media would be irresponsible to cover it. Not sure i agree. Thats the fiscal cliff as we face the deadline. The president gave a speech that struck me. Lets listen to what barack obama had to say. I want you to call, i want you to spend an email, post on their facebook wall. If you tweet then use the hashtag were calling my2k. Its about your 2k in your pocket. Thats a reference to the administrati administrations argument that if congress does nothing the average middle class will lose 2,000 a year. Im just struck the president is using this twitter hash tag. I guess its the new call your congressman and let him know how you feel. Im not sure its going to increase pressure on republicans. Its going to make the president s core support eers fl engaged after the race is over. I have hard time to believe the republicans will be worried about the number of tweets. Theyve tried to fight back. They bought this my2k, so when you search you get the heritage take on it. Social media platform is not to be minimized. The study has proven that facebook can increase voter turn out. We will know if the white house has really won the social media fiscal cliff battle if we see a newborn named my2k. The first baby named hashtag made her bay back to you. Its taken over the world and politics. If i could add to one point that howard make i think its right to say the impact is through journalist. You make these twitter campaigns in order to influence the cable tv coverage. Its an echo chamber. I believe that twitter is so influential. Coming up, fox news pulls the plug on tom ricks. He doesnt think much of msnbc either. A look at the war of words in just a moment. [ male announcer ] a europeaninspired suspension, but its not from germany. A powerful, fuelefficient engine, but its not from japan. Its a car like no other. From a place like nother. Introducing the allw 2013hevrolet malibu, our greatest malibu ever. I have a cold. I took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesnt work on runny noses. What . [ male announcer ] it doesnt have an antihistamine. Really . [ male announcer ] really. Alkaseltzer plus cold and cough fights your worst cold symptoms, plus has a fast acting antihistamine to relieve your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you [ male announcer ] youre welcome. Thats the cold truth [ male announcer ] alkaseltzer plus. Oh what a relief it is [ male announcer ] cant find theraflu . Try alkaseltzer plus for fast, liquid, cold, and flu relief. Bp has paid overthe people of bp twentythreeitment to the gulf. Billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. Today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. And bps also committed to america. We support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. Were working to fuel america for generations to come. Our commitment has never been stronger. Tom ricks talked about the David Petraeus saga. Fox news invited him onto talk about that networks favorite subject. Lets say the discussion with the anchor didnt last long. Scott asked about the Republican Opposition to susan rice being nominated as secretary of state made sense. He went on sunday shows with wrong information about the attack. I think benghazi was hiked by this network. When you have four people dead including the first u. N. Ambassad ambassador, how do you call that hi hiked . Its impossible to figure out what happened. I think the emphasis on benghazi has been political because fox was operating as a wing of the republican party. Tom ricks thanks very much for joining us today. Youre welcome. That was it. Less than 90 seconds. He got the hook. Interview over. Thank you very much. The controversy was just heating up. Foxs executive Vice President said ricks apologized to a staffer after the aborted interview. He said he was a little peevish after a tiring book tour. Does fox news only allow guests that doesnt answer foxs question. Ricks said he was answering the question and said what a bunch of wimps. He said he turned down msnbc and said yourself just like fox but not as good at it. Why didnt he engage him in a discussion instead of pulling the plug. I asked ricks if he wanted to come back but he declined. Ahead, the investigation into rupert murdocks phone scandal. Is tighter regulation the answer . We use this board to compare Car Insurance rates side by side so you get the same coverage, often for less. Thats one smart board. What else does it do, reverse gravity . [ laughs ] [ laughs ] [ whooshing ] tell me about it. Why am i not going anywhere . You dont believe hard enough. A smarter way to shop around. Now thats progressive. Call or click today. [ grunting ] anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating . Yeah. One Phillips Colon Health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. Approved [ female announcer ] live the regular life. Phillips. An independent british investigation has rendered a ve verdict on the phone hacking scandal. The report say the british media have shown recklessness in prioritizing sensational stories almost regardless of the harm these stories may cause the victims. What the the fallout . Joining us now is emily bell. Good morning. Good morning. How devastating a portrait of the British Press is painted by the inquiry . It couldnt really be worse if youre one of the tabloid papers in the uk. Its 2,000 pages long. The press behavior is described as outrageous. Says that editors disregarded their own code of conduct. He does make a point there are other papers. The guardian mile home broke the story. If youre at the end of the British Press in what we call the red top tabloids this is a pretty uncomfortable report. All 2,000 pages of it. Wasnt it partial vindication because the findings were he didnt know about the phone hacking or know about any cover up . Yeah. This is good in terms of his news core business. Theres all kinds of bits of legislation that can get you into trouble over here if youre implicated in what might be a corrupt or illegal practice in the uk or any other territory. At the same time some of murdochs former lieutenants are facing trouble. I think thats definitely true. I think nobody would dispute that. You have a number of senior editors awaiting trial. Weve already had one journalist. His royal journalist when to jail for this in 2006. This is where this whole thing began. Kind of cost of the story. The story at any price is the thing which is really scrutinized here and that has to stop. Theres a price thats too high. What really caught my eye is the finding that british politicians, some of them are too cozy with the press. It was all unspoken. The politicians knew the ground rule and the prize for cooperation was personal and Political Support in murdochs mass newspapers. Its different culture. Theres a lot of journalists in new york. Most of the politicians are in new york. You have the entertainment entry in los angeles. In london all of those key players are in a few square miles of london. You have this soft network of influences who spend far too much time together. This was something which was hidden in plain sight. Everybody in the press knew it happened. Everybody really thought about it would know it was very unhealthy for democracy. Now its been put under this scrutiny is going to be something that doesnt happen to the same extent. The Prime Minister did take exception to the main recommendation of this commission and that is to have stricter regulation. Legal regulation. No representatives from either the newspaper size or the government. Lets take a listen to David Cameron. The issue of principle is for the first time we would right elements of press regulation into the law of the land. We should be weary of any legislation that has to potential to infringe free speech and free press. Now they love David Cameron because hes taking a stand against tighter regulation. Not all of them do. Some of the serious press are fairly supportive of the findings and they say even the backed regulation is pretty reasonable. It allows victims to get a redress without having to go to a liable lawyer. Whats your take . Do you think stricter regulation is needed . I think you have to worry about infringement on freedom ch when you get any regulation. That makes me feel uncomfortable. I think this legislation looks at the old guard. Its very restricted to the press. Im not sure how effective it will be as we go forward in the internet world. Maybe its false of the past and were hopefully going to see a very different future maybe without the intervention of government and press. Perhaps the embarrassment suffered by the empire wont be as strong as anything lawmakers could come up with. Thank you. Thank you. Singer chris brown uses twitter to take one of his female kricritics. 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What makes stouffers meatloaf best of all . That moment you enjoy it at home. Stouffers. Lets fix dinner. Starts with arthritis pain and a choice. Take tylenol or take aleve, the 1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. Just two aleve can keep pain away all day. Back to the news. Some folks play rough on twitter but this was vicious. Chris brown ricked boo Jenny Johnson who has long been needling him for beating up his girlfriend rhinna. Brown later deleted the contents but his done that before and come back. Joining us now to talk about this online war fair is lola. What was your reaction is looking at these x rated taunts and attacks. I dont understand for the life of me why his handlers allow him to control his own twitter account. The first thing i would say is that twitter, facebook, technology in general is not your friend. You have handlers for a reason. Let them handle that. This guy is a word famous singer and his people should tell him back away from the twitter. Back away from the twitter. Hes obviously a volatile character. He has a temper. Its no surprise when he was pushed and pushed and pushed he reacted. Now to be fair this Jenny Johnson character has been attacking him on twitter since 2009. I think since 2011 i read shes written about him 97 times. This is a married mother of two. Sure she has. She started the feud but shes not a convicted felon. Some people are saying its her fault that this abuse was showerered on her. He clearly has a track record. Hes not the type of person that will roll over and take it especially if its been happening for three years. She shouldnt be surprised when she poked a lion he bit back. I think she was trying to get her own pub llicitpublicity. I find hit hypocrite cal that a person launched her own verbal abuse on twitter. All right. On the serious side she has gotten death threats. Shes not whining about being a victim but she isnt shy about pointing out. Did you know who Jenny Johnson was before this . I do now. Point taken. Here is my question. Question. Given the history that chris brown has, both in terms of the felony conviction and in terms of other stuff he said on the air over the years, homophobic taunts in one case. How does he have more than 11 million followers. Is he a hero to some people . People like his music, you know. In this culture youre one hit away from a come back. Chris brown has had a phenomenal year musically. You dont have to like him as a person or as a human being, but theres no denying he has millions fans who thoroughly enjoy his music and thoroughly enjoy his concerts. Do you think the millions of fans are there because they like chris brown the performer and are looking past the verbal abuse or maybe some people are attracted by it because they think it is entertaining . People always like the bad boy, thats part of the history in this culture, james dean on down. Keep in mind, chris brown is not the first celebrity to be violent. People act like he broke the mold. Thats not the case and im not in any way defending chris brown and not defending physical, verbal, mental abuse at all. To be clear, he is not the first person thats done this. Sharon osborne has been vocal about the fact that Ozzy Osbourne almost choked her to death in 1989, now theyre regarded as a loving british couple and dominating the air waves. I dont understand why people vilify this person. Rihanna clearly moved on, his fans moved on. Why hasnt Jenny Johnson moved on. I was reading tweets after Nbcs Matt Lauer was moderator of thanksgiving day parade. They ripped him because he mispronounced the name of a song. I think twitter is great, the water cooler, but it is a place where people get things thrown in their face. First of all, i dont understand why people have Nothing Better to do on thanksgiving than to rip matt lauer. How bad was the turkey . How bad was the stuffing . All you had to do was rip matt lauer. This man is a veteran, one of the best interviewers in the game. I didnt watch the parade. I am sure he did a fantastic job, always does well. Regardless of the fact, personal attacks, taunts, jibes are not necessary. People are below the belt in regards to his performance. I think it is cruel, a period mob mentality and it is easy tore people to dis another person in the comfort of their home in relative anonymity. Through the screen names. 20 seconds. Chris brown deleting that twitter account. Do you think he will be back using that social network . Of course. He will probably be back by the end of this week to be honest. He cant stay away, and his fans dont want him to stay away. Hell be back. Back by popular demand. He has to have his handlers verify all the tweets before they go out. He misspelled ho. Come on. I was too polite to point it out. Thank you for noting that. Still to come, new York Police Officer produced a good news story for cynical press. A remarkable young man. News outlets fooled by a phony story about google and north korea sexy leader. Tell you who fell for that. Media monitor is straight ahead. [ male announcer ] alkaseltzer plus presents the cold truth. I have a cold, and i took nyquil, but im still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesnt unstuff your nose. What . [ male announcer ] it doesnt have a decongestant. No way. [ male announcer ] sorry. Alkaseltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks [ male announcer ] youre welcome. Thats the cold truth [ male announcer ] alkaseltzer plus. Oh what a relief it is [ male announcer ] to learn more about the cold truth and save 1 visit alkaseltzer on facebook. [ male announcer ] its that time of year again. Medicare open enrollment. Time to compare plans and costs. 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The media over in the peoples republic may be humor impaired. They ran a 55 page photo spread on kim jongun chosen as sexiest guy alive. With his devastatingly handsome round face his boyish charm and his strong sturdy frame, this pie on yang bred hard throb is every womans dream come true. In the cynical media age, i was delighted to run into lawrence depreef oh, the Police Officer that didnt know a tourist was shooting a cell phone picture of him as he helped a homeless man in times square. He said he almost feels unworthy of the Media Attention since she posted a photo of him buying shoes and putting them on the barefoot man. It wound up in the New York Times and elsewhere and the officer wound up on the today show. I didnt think about the money. When i went to them, i said theres an elderly man with no shoes and socks, i said i dont care what the price is, we have to help him out. He said it was news to him. One of my friends had a picture, texted me. I didnt expect it. You know, i didnt