Got his back and hes got mine. Thats what i reflect. Thats what i what motivates me. President obama will award the medal of honor to Clint Romesha on monday at the white house. He will also be honored at the pentagon on tuesday, after which he will come back here to minot, north dakota, and continue with his new job. Meanwhile, the war in afghanistan continues. More than 60,000 American Service members are right now in that country fighting that war. Ive come to gun country in one of the most Popular Stores in the state. I fired the most powerful we in americas arsenal and theyre all legal. Youre in america now and we have a special amendment right. This a is special edition. How has business been . Right noi its impossible to get guns and ammunition. This pattern has been seen all over america. Why are people reacting by buying more guns and ammunition. I know my customers feel they will be banned. They need to get it now while they still can. Whats the most popular . Anything with over a ten round automatic. Thats the rumor they will try to ban. Do you think those are kind of things they should use in selfdefense . For selfdefense for your home or your property . Home. For your home i like shotguns because you dont have to worry about missing. Here in texas sometimes you live on 10, 20 acres. A shotgun wouldnt be very effective. Do you believe any gun should be bann edbanned . I do not. Why . Its not case of guns kill people. Do you believe that the more guns there are in america, the safer the country is . In the hands of the right people, yes. If youre going to do anything, i agree that people that have mental retardation or violent felons, they shouldnt have guns. They shouldnt have any rights. Lawabiding citizens you should be able to do whatever you want as far as gun purchasing. Lets fire some of these weapons. What are we going to start with . The jp enterprise. Every time you pull the trigger one bullet comes out. This is a pure unmodified semi automatic . Yes. Its a standard if you like ar15 . Right. This is the weapon thats been used in the last five Mass Shootings in america including aurora and sandy hook. Okay. The magazine is how big . This is 30 round capacity. Its standard. Its perfectly legal. Weapon is ready to be charged. Weapon is on safe. Okay. Shoulder the weapon. Keep your finger out of the trigger until youre ready to shoot. Take it off of safety. Go ahead an shoot. Once i got the hang of it and pressing the trigger faster and faster it was firing fast. This has a muzzle break. Somebody that knows what theyre doing how many rounds could they fire in a minute . Maybe 60 rounds or so. 60 rounds a minute. 400 rounds a minute. The true rate if you have unlimited magazine then 400 rounds a minute. Somebody like you . In one minute . 200 or so. 200. If i had to guess. You can buy this at walmart. You think its a good idea. For lawabiding citizens its an excellent idea. We shoot pigs out of helicopters in texas. We do things nobody does. If you start barning one particular anything, where is it going to stop . If you give anybody a inch theyll take a mile. You have a modified version which i wouldnt mind seeing next. Were a firearm manufacturer. These two weapons they look identical to me. Right. The difference is the selector switch instead of going from safe to semi automatic, we have autothat allows it to go full automatic. Thats the only difference in. Thats the only difference. How difficult is to it take an ar15 to make it an automatic . You have to have the right sever. Theres parts and components. You cant just go to walmart or make it that way. The parts can be bought legally in. Yes. You could convert it yourself if you know what youre doing. Technically youre not supposed to have the parts and the gun together. You can buy them separately . You can. Be youre a criminal of course, if youre a criminal you can do whatever you want. A 30 bullet magazine. Safety is on. You need to flip this twice. Make sure that you lean forward into it because it does rise. Make sure you leap into it. To me it feels to powerful. You missed many times. The speed and the power. When you shoot one of these its called spray and pray. You pray it hits the target. If youre in a confined area like a Movie Theater you dont care . You saw the rise. It doesnt matter if you miss a few, youll hit somebody. The guy at aurora has an ar15. I believe he had a slider device. What does that do . Its less accurate than this. Its really hard to shoot. I would love to put one in your hands. How many bullets does it allow you to fire . Technicallily shoots about 650 rounds a minute. You can buy the slider legally. You sell them here . Right. Of all the arguments to have one of these, home defense is probably the least plausible from your point of view . For me in the home, what people are talking about is the way that this world is going that the military and United Nations are going to come in and try to take our guns. You really believe that . I dont know. Anything is possible. Can you imagine u. S. Marines charging onto your property an steal your guns. I would hope not. Youre a sensible guy. I hear this all the time in texas. I gave an interview with a friend of yours with 40 and 50 texans. Thats the one thing they agreed that tyranny was about to come their way. Look at all the other countries. It started where we are now and its ended up with no guns. You think that the American Military would attack its own people . If theyre forced to. I hope that would not happen. Do you think thats what many texans feel about why they would need a weapon like this . They want it because they are lawabiding citizens and they know its legal to purchase it now and it wont be legal now. They rather buy it now and be legal than do something illegal because these are law abiding citizens were talking about. Show me the type of weapon effective for home defense . Inside your home this is a typical shotgun. The reason i like about this is it does have a strap here. If someone tries to take it from you, you have two points for struggle. Its a pump action so its not going to jam. Thats a universal sound for get the heck out of my house. Its a 12gauge. Easy to use . It is. You have to hold it down at the waist when you fire it because if you do this youll bust your teeth out. This machine down here which looks like it kind of military machine gun that you see in all the movies. That was made before 1986 and the last assault weapons ban that is a legal weapon in this country. I could buy that. Six months of background checks. Its atf paper work that you have to fill out. You have to pay 200 to the atf to fire this or to purchase it. To fire it how much it cost me in. These run anywhere from 25 to 45,000. Depends on the make an model. Whats the rate of fire . About 900 rounds a minute. Chris, if i could have you over on this side. Sit on this one and you sit on that one. Okay. Put your knees over this. Take it off safe. Take it off safe. Its going to keep going as long as you keep it down. Why would any civilian need one of these . I purchased one of these about 12,000 and sold it for 45,000. Incredible. I kr incredible. Its obviously too expensive to shoot. Its the investment. I could buy that from you . You could. Still ahead, i talked to a close friend of americas top sniper who was shot dead on a texas gun range similar to this. After the break i talked to the attorney general about his views on gun control. Anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating . Yes one Phillips Colon Health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. Live the regular life. Phillips. 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The president was in minnesota and came out for a variety of different measures he wants to bring in through the senate and the house to curb gun violence in america. What was your reaction . It seems to be more show than reality. It seems like on the same day the majority leader same out and said theyre not going to pass any assault weapons ban. He said he would take a look at it. I thought he made an announcement that he didnt think that you would would pass a ban. Lets go through some of these measures. I want to see where theres common ground. Do you support 100 universal background checks . The current background checks are not working. Were seeing so many violations of it that the federal officials are not enforcing. In principle. Do you support that . The principle of ensuring that criminals and those who have mental issues do not get their hands on gun are important. The principle of who is buying guns in america. A lot of these people dont show the obvious mental danger until its too late. What about the principle if you buy a gun at a gun show theres a record of it and you have to have a background check. What im trying to tell you is if you go to a gun show, you will have a background check run. The important thing is thats not true. You will in some cases but the private trades, theres no record. Which is a good point. I want hunting last month with a good friend in south texas. I used a rifle that i would like to purchase from him. Had he had to go through a bkd check, it would hinder the purchase. Should i have to run a background check on my friend ive known for more than a decade because i want to sell him a pistol. You can guarantee that every Single Person in texas will be in the future of sound Mental Health and isnt going to develop criminal tendencies, suicidal tendencies or murderous tendencies . Can you guarantee that . We need to enforce the laws and crack down on those with mental challenges and prevent criminals from getting ahold of the guns in first place. Would you support a ban on magazine rounds with more than ten rounds . Absolutely not. Why . Look at the texas border. We have thousands of ranchers who live up and down the border. How much drug cartel have attacked people in texas . We have Drug Cartel Members who have shot at Law Enforcement. Civilians . If theres so brazen that they will shoot Law Enforcement officers, the innocent ranchers have to be fearful. Have any rancher been confronted . Absolutely. When . I cant tell you when . You said confronted. Theyre confronted ranchers on an ongoing basis. They deserve to have the ability to meet force with force, which is what the Second Amendment guarantees. These ranchers need to be able to protect themselves. Let me add one more thing. Youre in houston right now. There are members of the vicious gang ms13 right here in houston as well as other deadly gangs. People here in houston have a right to defend themselves from the deadly gang. Do you agree with the fact you cant legally by in most places in america machine guns in warfare style . Sure. Thats been banned. Do you support that . Thats a ban thats in place and we have been fine with that. Why doesnt that breech your rights . The military can have them. I thought you should have whatever everybody else have. The reason why it was passed in the first place is to allow americans to defend themselves from either Government Forces or other forces that endanger their lives. If the government attacked you, it would be the military. It would be with machine guns. You support that ban but youre not prepared for a ban on military style. A lot of people use this phrase military style when in reality its nothing more than a semi automatic weapon used for deer hunting. I can buy a slide device over there which would allow me to fire up to 300 rounds a minute. What is your definition of an assault rife given i can legally buy that here and kill 300 people in one minute . First, i think that any texan has a right to be able to purchase one of those weapons. When it comes to talk about limiting our right, we need to have the right to defend ourselves when ever anyone tries to attack us. Thank you very much. Thank you. Coming up, ill talk to two people who believe concealed weapons and the nra save lives plus ted nugent. Take tylenol or take aleve, the 1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. Just two aleve can keep pain away all day. Back to the news. Just two aleve can keep pain away all day. How do you keep an older car running like new . You ask a ford customer. When they tell you that you need your oil changed you got to bring it in. If your tires need to be rotated, you have to get that done as well. 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Along with the appalling tragedy not least because your friend was trying to help another armed serviceman who had come out and suffering from this very frequent problem now that so many exsoldiers have. It ended tragically. What did you feel in terms about this . I guess im still in total disbelief that chris is gone. I think that everyone that knew him feels the same way. I dont know the act details of what happened and im sure that more information will come out. Even before he was famous devoted considerable amount of time to helping veterans whether they were disabled, whether they were suffering from Traumatic Stress or just regular guys. He would take people out to go hunting and fishing. He could also just talk with people back from the war. Thats a big part of what his life was about. Certainly awful. Im at a texas gun range. It feels safe here. Everyone knows how to use weapons and takes it seriously. We dont flknow the exact details. Its a little different than where you are. Its a very large place. Quite honestly they could have been doing any number of things. Chris would not have subjected another person to a dangerous situation. Im sure that he considered where he was to be relatively safe. Its an appalling tragedy. The aelleged killer is now in custody. I guess well find out more when he comes to trial. My great sympathies to you on losing your friend and america has lost a true hero. Absolutely. Thank you. Back to our big gun debate. Joining me is texas state senator dan patrick. Welcome to you both. I want eed to start by giving y my reaction. A lot of people say you dont know what youre talking. The ar15 is just another form of gun. I was pretty shocked when i got into this range and began to fire the ar15. You can see the pictures here again. I started off slowly and it began to rapid fire. To hear someone that knows what theyre doing could find between 60, 70, 80 bullets a minute. How anyone could not classify this as an assault weapon is beyond me. Its a personal defense weapon. Against what . Against a lot of things. We live in an area and weve seen the thin vail of civility in a hurricane, the aftermath. We see lootest go into a neighborhood whether its new orleans or long island. We know that in our country we dont think terrible things like a dirty bomb could be set off. Nobody thought 9 11 would have. People have this weapon to defend themselves s here is the thing. If you strip out the ar15 and take all the guns out, youre still left with 2,200 legal guns you can buy. Youre obsessing over one gun that a ban human being used. Have you ever the last mass shooting i could have been a victim of it wasnt an ar15. Youre obsessed it. Have you ever had a gun to your head in. No. Have you ever had a man say im going to blow your head off with expletives while grinning. I had a gun to defend myself. I didnt have an ar15. Why would you need it . Youre missing the point of what im saying. You can claim anything is an assault weapon when its in the bad hands of a band person. The gun that night wasnt on the special list the senator wanted out there. That gun that night was just as dangerous to my life when he pulled the trigger not once, not two. This is my point. Make your point. When you say not have a clip of ten. I had a clip with 13. When the Police Showed up, you know how many were left many my gun. One. I would have run out of bullets before i save my life and my friends life. I understand the need to defend yourself. I dont think so. You dont know how much let me finish my statement. Let me speak. I understand in a country that has over 300 million firearms people feel the need to defend themselves. Youre not stupid. You just dont understand the american culture. Liberty and freedom does not guarantee safety. Do you fear tyranny . No. Do you believe your government would overrun texas using the military . Thats what tyranny means. The reason people like the ar15, my wife shoots it. You can fire it multiple time. When i meant about the long island looters or new orleans, we see how quickly people can turn against each other. Heaven forbid we have a dirty bomb and you have to defend your family. I want as much i want to be able to defend my family and i have a right. I was there when hurricane sandy, nobody felt the need to take an ar15 to blow away looters. Were they looting . It was limited. Dont act like its the same thing that was happen on a beautiful place in new jersey with totally different people. The social Economic Conditions are different. He sited sandy, not me. What is your answer to the parents of sandy hook who had their children blown to pieces about how you are personally through your radio show going to try to make america a safer place . Simple. We got to be realistic that whether it be in america or the uk, crazy people. I want to make sure theres somebody at every school to protect and defend children because we know now armed teachers or guards . Either one. It depends on what the people want. Do you believe the nra agrees with this. I dont know if they agree with me or not. Here is what was said about columbine. First, we believe in absolutely gun free, zero tolerance, totally safe schools. [ applause ] that means no guns in americas schools, period, with the rare exception of Law Enforcement officers or trained security personnel. Hes done a 360 on that. Hes done a 360 on background checks. Hes being rapidly exposed as a shameless hypocrite. Hes not a hypocrite if hes learning and changing and adapting the same way you would in a situation like. Thats called using the brain that god gave you. You figured out having a government with a king is probably a bad idea to rule everything. Am i wrong . Did you change it . In america we change things often. What did we change . You have people that decided long ago they didnt want to have one man over an entire nation and thats part of the reason why america is here. Am i wrong . Am i wrong . Thats baffling. We just had a hearing in our Education Committee on this issue. We made the decision, its a local decision. We have over a thousand School Districts this texas. Many of the large ones have armed guards already. The rural districts want to arm their teachers. I met two young female Elementary School teachers in their early 20s in a bar in houston. They were very interested. Both believed they wanted to have a concealed permit. Neither of them wanted to have any assault weapons. They wanted a complete ban and they were absolutely agast at the prospect of having guns in their school. There will be always be someone. You asked me earlier what would i say to the parents at this school whose kids died. I would say to you why are you obsessing over a gun when theres a much bigger issue. 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Let me see that machine gun smile. Here is the truth about it. It was an exciting experience. Its no question. Firing weapons like that are incredibly power. Its an exciting experience. I cant deny that. This is the regular semiautomatic once i got the hang of it. Watch this clip. Heres the thing. This is the weapon that was used in aurora and used in sandy hook and been used in the last five Mass Shootings. I can see why. It was very light. It was easy to use. I had very little train. Maybe a minutes worth. I found it very accurate. Even i was getting an accuracy which is the same Police Officers which is about 20 . Good shot. Here is the thing. I dont understand and i want you to tell me in the least inflammatory way possible why outside of hog hunting, which i sg get is a problem in texas, that anybody needs one of those. Why the least we couldnt do to those poor families to that weapon is not just remove those from the equation . A number of things. First of all, ive been monitoring your gun debates. Go ahead and take it to the bank. You will never understand. I really dont believe youll ever grasp. What wont i understand . You wont understand its a simple tool that tens of millions of American Families own that have never caused a problem, never had an accident and will never commit a crime. You have these aberrations that are so minute. Youre so full of crap. That statistic includes bad guys shot by cops and intruders caught by homeowners. That figure is bogus. Its an accurate figure. 100,000 americans get hit by gunfire a year. That includes bad guys hit by cops. 18,000 kill themselves. Japan has a higher rate. How many people murdered in japan in the last two or three years . Were not talking about guns. Do you care about murders or all murders with gun . I care about all deaths. I dont think you do. I think youre obsessed with guns. 99. 9 of gun owners are harmless people that youre hanging around here today. Would you leave us alone. Go after the nut jobs. Go after the murders because i dont know any. We need to lock up the bad guys and when people show dangerous murderous intent which every one of them showed. All their neighbors, family, teachers, fellow students all knew they were crazy but we didnt stop them because were worried about hurting their feelings. We have a madman problem in america where they are running around. We have a felon recidivism problem and leave the rest of us alone. I wont leave you alone. We appreciate that because youre the first perfect poster boy to stand up for stuff that makes no sense. This poster boy will take a break. I want to know which of president obamas 35 ideas you would support. This day calls you. To fight chronic osteoarthritis pain. To fight chronic low back pain. To take action. To take the next step. Today, you will know you did something for your pain. Cymbalta can help. 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That were not going to wait until the next newtown or the next aurora. President obama reenforcing his plans for gun legislation. Government registration now 69 of americans supported that. Ban on semiautomatic guns 56 . A clear majority in every case of americans that you say i dont understand agree with me, not you. What is your response to what the president is trying to do . Which of his proposals do you agree with . I think i can frame it best by identifying the scammer in chief who claims that just to save one life would be worth this. Isnt it worth this . He had a chance to save four american lives in benghazi and refused to do so. This president has been voted in by that clueless majority who is so out of touch they still call magazines clips. They call personal defense weapons, assault weapons. I dont agree with president obama on any of that. Do you agree with universal bg background checks . Absolutely not. Ted kennedy was on the no fly list five times, which i happen to support. I was turned down purchasing firearm a number of time and i own class three weapons. Ive had a concealed weapons permit for 40 years. The instant check turned me down. You heard the owner say hes selling four times as many guns since sandy hook. To me. Maybe to you. I find it disturbing reaction to the massacre of 20 young children. Thats not a reaction to sandy hook. Here is the question. Do you think america is going to be safer because gun stores like this are selling so furiously weapons and ammunition . Absolutely. I told you these statistic before. Thre