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>> sometimes if i have enough energy to. only in america. barbra streisand is having a special grammy moment. this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening. tonight, politics, pop and barbra streisand. we begin with president obama getting the business from conservatives. listen to mitt romney today, the at the police call action conference. >> it's been a great conference so far and for that i suppose we should acknowledge president obama. he's the conservative movement's top recruiterment errecruiter. it turns out he really is a good community organizer. i just don't think this is the community he planned on organizing but he did. >> so how is the president's re-election campaign fighting back? joining me is stephanie cutter. welcome, stephanie. so a bit of an old timing over this. what i can't understand is why nobody saw it coming. >> nobody saw it coming? the criticism from the catholic church on contraception? peers, let's remember when we started on this debate. the president announced maybe two and a half weeks ago a monumental step forward for women's health and ensuring that all women had access to contraception care. as part of that announcement, whhe announced a year and a half extra transition for religious institutions. not churches. because they were exempted. but religious institutions to work with them to find a way to implement the poll any in a way that respected them. this policy doesn't take effect for them for another year and a half and working through the policy and obviously we saw many including some of the sound you were just talking about, mitt romney, other republican candidates, you know, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, a lot of men trying to drive a political wedge in to the issue and the president decided to expedite this. take the steam out of it, take the debate away and focus on protecting women's health in a way that respects religious beliefs. >> do you accept that by offering the compromise today, though, it obviously looks to everybody on the outside you've committed a goal trying to clear the mess up? that would have seemed to be what you're now accepting. >> well, it's actually not a compromise. it's an adjustment to the implementation. a compromise would be we're compromising whether or not women can get this health care. that's nothing to compromise on. women are getting the same access to the health care that they need. contracepti contraception. to keep them healthy. cut down the rates of cancer. that's, you know, unwaivering in terms of the president's commitment to. that this is an adjustment to the implementation. part of this is a little bit of a disbelief we're debating about contraception to begin with. this is birth control, something that women have been taking, you know, for decades. and something that is accepted in this country. 99% of women take birth control. it's a little unbelievable that we're debating it. >> it is. i don't think it's unbelieve that believe roman catholics would be debating it. i'm a roman catholic. >> as am i. >> you must understand why it's a big debate because, obvious, many roman catholics would be 0 pauled by this and know that. that's why i find it surprising nobody at the white house thought it through in terms of the roman catholic aspect. the right seizing on that and the way they have. >> well, piers, you know that the catholic church is exempted from the rule and they were exempted from the rule from the beginning. but, you know, as a roman catholic and as a woman, we have disagreed with the church for a very long time. i don't believe and the president didn't believe that we should, you know, a nurse at a catholic hospital have a less right of a care she needs as a nurse at the public hospital. >> the president is probably pleased that the approval ratings are ticking up and the economy appears to be slowly grinding its way back in to some kind of recovery. >> yes. >> the gop can't seem to decide who they want to take him on. i would imagine from your point of view, the obama 2012 campaign going quite nicely at the moment. >> we don't have an opponent yet. we are watching the republican primaries play out. we saw a lot of interesting speeches today at the conservative conference that you're playing earlier. a lot of very sharp lines being drawn. you know, mitt romney claiming that he was severely conservative as a massachusetts governor. and, you know, he continues to play to the conservative vote to try to lock up the nomination. doesn't seem to be working very well for well, both for playing to conservatives and alienating conservatives and we don't know if he'll be the general assembly nominee or rick santorum but we do know that over the course of the primary season they have spent time alienating people. >> one santorum question that came up with this comment about he wouldn't like to see female soldiers on the froint line in combat because of the emotional issue, he stressed he didn't mean the women's emotion, he met the man's emotion on the front line. what did you think of that? what does the president think of that? is he happy for women to be on the front line in combat and the emotions can be kept in check? >> i don't want to speak for the president of rick santorum's comment but the comment seems crazy to me. that men and women can't keep their emotions in check. certainly, there are both men and women of great valor who have been fighting for this country for a decade in iraq and afghanistan and that comment seems crazy to me and i'm sure to men and women in the military. >> finally, as we look at the forthcoming election and the battle hotting up, what do you identify now giving you're so closely involved with the campaign, is there a problem with the u-turn on the superpacs? >> credibility issue? no. from the response we have seen this week people appreciate he doesn't want to fight with one hand tied behind his back and tied long for campaign finance reform so that americans, low-dollar donors have a say in our elections. not just wealthy americans or -- >> i understand. i do understand that. but -- >> yep, on the decision -- >> just this way. when the president is on the record as saying that these pacs are a threat to democracy, how can he have the brass to support them now? >> exactly what i said. he'll continue to fight to change the law and the law is the way it is right now in this election cycle and we saw a commitment by karl rove and the coke brothers and other republicans to spend $500 million to defeat this president to defeat this president. mitt romney's superpacs, tens of millions of dollars were raised in the last quarter by less than 200 people. so in order to ensure that the millions of americans who are giving what they can, $5, $10, $25, that their voices are not drowned out. we're going to make sure that those attacks are responded to. we know they're coming. we are going to respond to them. that's why we made to decision to not unilaterally disarm in the middle of the election. doesn't mean we don't continue to fight to change the law and the president's committed to doing that. ultimately, might take a constitutional amendment to finally make sure that average americans have a say in their elections rather than special interests. but, you know, i think that the response that we have seen over the past few days after making the decision people appreciate that there needs to be a fair fight. >> so the threat level from superpacs to democracy is downgraded to zero for the period of the election. is that how we're leaving things? >> no, no. absolutely not. i'm sure that even with our announcement it's emboldened lots of people on the other side to give even more but we can do our best to ensure that the attacks are responded to. we'll continue on the campaign side to raise dollars from average americans. you know the statistics on the obama for america money. more than a million dollars, the average donation is $250 or less. you know, we're very proud of that. we're continuing to build that grass roots force and ensure that those voices aren't drowned out. >> stephanie cutter, thank you very much, indeed. >> thanks, piers. when we come back, mr. cool himself. ll cool j and surprising ideas for keeping america great. 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what should i call you now? what is the respectful way? >> i think todd works just fine. mother knows best. >> how are you feeling about the grammy's? they haven't had a host in seven years and you are the man, are you nervous? do you get nervous? with a name like cool you can't get that nervous. >> i wouldn't say i am nervous, but at the same time, it is not like i've got it and i'm done, and spandex on. you know? it is not that kind of a deal. i'm ready to do it. i look forward to living up to the challenge and getting out there and not being in the way. it is not going to be the ll cool j wardrobe show. it is going to be about the artists that, you know, were nominate and performing. >> you have won two grammy's. >> yes. >> and you know what is it like to win? >> well, i have been nominated nine times and i have lost more than i have won. >> and let's be honest. winning is better than losing? >> without a doubt. >> you came out with a wonderful quotation. you said, i'm happy to be black. i am what i am. i am doing very well in my life and i'm thankful to god for that. i'm a real person that cares about his art and cares about what he's doing and i have a heart and soul and i want to give. as a hope as a black man, i want to get on this path and get there. >> yeah. >> i found that very inspiring, that quotation. it made me think again that we are in a election year. >>. yes. >> the fact that america three years ago took a huge leap forward as a nation. >> yes. >> and got the first black president. >> yes. >> and given what you said there, how do you critique barack obama? >> i think that, you know, first of all when you're -- i want to qualify it by saying that when you are running for the president of the united states, you are going to make a lot of promises on the campaign trail that -- where, you know, when you look at the equation it's one plus one equals two outcome, right? but when you get into the inner sanctum you find out that one plus one and plus a couple of other ones equal four, and now people are saying what happened to two? i think that, we as people in the united states of america don't have all of the information in front of us, and for our benefit, and i think just on the worldwide level no democracy, no democratic government is like just doling out all of the state secrets and all of the various nuances and dynamics that affected the decision making going on in the inner sanctum. >> let me ask you a difficult question because you had an extraordinary upbringing and you fought against a lot of, you know, really tough things in your life. at the age of 4 you watch your father shoot your mother and your grandfather. >> yeah, yeah. >> traumatic event that most people couldn't imagine. >> yes. >> and you fought through and became this incredibly successful grammy award winning star and so on. is america still the country of that opportunity, do you think? >> of course, it is. of course america is still the county of that opportunity. and i mean, you know, going back to what we were saying about president obama, you know, the reality is that, you know, no matter who holds that office there is always going to be some opposition, and some of the opposition is going to be aggressive and some of the opposition is going to be passive and sometimes just there'll be just passive enough to look like you have coordination problem, like you can't put, you know, certain pieces of the puzzle in certain places. you know? it happens in different ways. but that being said, i don't think that anyone should assume i'm a democrat either. i'm a independent. >> but my mantra recently on the show has been a theme of keeping america great, because i think it is a more positive way of viewing what is going on right now. >> it is. >> and let me ask you, you are a successful businessman, and never mind everything else. how do we keep america great? >> i think that in order to keep america great we have to keep america creative. i think the key is to create. i don't think that anything great in this nation has ever happened without creation, whether it is the wright brothers or it's what bill gates or rest in peace with what steve jobs did, and so many great things, but i think the basis of america, it is about creating, even if it is just creating freedom. we have always been about creation. you look at it. if you have the billionaires and some of their kids are running around and they're partying in the hamptons, the only cure for their lives if they are bored and have everything is to create. sometimes creation is the best solution to create. now, not destruction, but harmony. we need to make sure that there's art in the school. why? why should art be in the school? because if art isn't in the school, then a guy like steve jobs doesn't get a chance to really express himself because in order for art to meet technology, you need art. you know, it is not like, oh, it is technology, you need both. i think we have to maintain that balance. and that's where people kind of get it a little muddy. and then when you think about, you know, the class thing that is going on, and you have one group of people that are wearing all white and playing cricket or croquet or however you say it -- >> cricket. >> and they are playing that, and then you is another crew playing it on the sidewalk and playing skully on the sidewalk and google that. you know, they can't relate to each other, but there is a middle ground. >> here is the thing. they talk about it all of the time, the rich are getting richer. you have a huge upper class of very wealthy people in america, the 1%. >> right. >> and then the underclass which is the branding it has been given which are people that have shoved aside by the system, and that number is getting bigger, and it is not a black thing or white thing, it is all colors and creeds and more people are falling into this real poverty trap. real poverty trap. >> yes, yes. >> and what do we do about that section of the community? >> well, einstein had a great quote. he said, you have to learn the rules of the game and play better than anyone else. you know? so that obviously means you have to be educated. to know the rules of the game, you have to be educated. it starts with education, but it is not about going to the public school, and learning arithmetic and reading. of course, we need that, but there are certain things that are being taught around the dining room tables and certain things that are taught in, you know, the fancy dimly-lit rooms that need to be shared in the underclass or that underbelly community because that will only help society as a whole. remember, if you -- >> how much should they be personally responsible? i interviewed ron paul recently. >> completely. >> he was very big on you can't wait for governments or states or whatever it is to help. you have to help yourself. >> he is right. he is right in that regard because, you know, you know the government is not our religion. the government is our government and their job is to make sure we have a safe society and we are protected and they take care of us and make sure that the needs are taken care of as a society and as a nation. but we have to take care of ourselves, and i think that starts with believing it could happen. you see, a lot of the times when you are dealing with downtrodden and you are dealing with the underbelly, the urban community, you are dealing with people who have given up hope. so, you know -- >> when you talk to people in that position, what do you say to them to inspire them? >> look at me. >> but how did you get there do you think? when you look back, what was it about you that allowed you to get out of that trap? >> well, it was a woman named ellen griffith and that was my grandmother, and, may she rest in peace, and she said, todd, if a task is left to be done, don't leave it till it is done, and let it be the labor of love. do it well or not at all. that is an education that i was lucky enough to get at home. i wasn't taught that in school. when i walked in school, i had a math teacher that caught us dummies and punch us in the back and put us in the classroom. that was his idea of a joke. in the meantime, he has created math ophobes. >> i have heard will.i.am sat right there and tell me about a similar story from his mother. i see you have the love of an undivided parent. can be one parent. >> i understand. >> that just believes in you. it's ten times easier than if you have nobody. >> yeah. >> what do you do if you have no one? >> you have to look at all of the people in the world that are successful and you have to synthesize all of those positions, those people, those goals they achieve, the things they did, the heroic moments. you have to take, you know, your greatest michael jordan moment and your greatest, you know, whoever you name moment and put them all together and say, you know what? i'm going to go for it. i always tell people. i said this in one of my books. i said, if your plane crashrd and it was in a song and everybody was gone and there was a life preserve, would you let it float away or grab on to it? it's your life. you have to make the decision at the end of the day. you know, as bad as the urban community is, the trailer park, as bad as it can be in lets say the appalachians and certain parts of america where it's really, really tough, there's no bars around the community. so you can get out. you have to make the decision to get out and a lot of times it is not the physical bars but the mental bars that stop people. you know? it's like an elephant that knew it was tied up for six months and stops trying to escape. you don't have to try it up anymore. you put a rope there. >> i'm fascinated by this. let's take a little break and come back and talk about keeping america great. i think you're on to this something. >> cool. every day we're using more and more energy. the world needs more energy. where's it going to come from? 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>> five years to the day. >> what? >> ll cool j starring in one of television's greatest smash hits "csi los angeles." a huge show that. >> and it is doing well. who knew? you know? if i knew the secret, i would have did it ten years ago. >> why do you think that it is so popular? >> you know what? i really can't say. i think that, you know, the stars just aligned. obviously the interest ncis is a huge show and having them as a lead-in really helped us. you know, shane brennan did a great job with the show runner and the writing staff does an amazing job, and the network really got behind it, and believed in us, you know, and les moonves and nina tasla has been great. it is one of those things that happened and you can't really say why, you know. >> and so you can either make television or movies or music for the rest of your life, but only one of them, what would you do? >> wow. that's harsh. um, oh. that's an interesting question. i guess -- i guess i'd make television movies that are musicals. [ laughter ] >> you'd be "glee the movie." when you look at a all of the artists at the grammys on sunday. >> right. >> the performers chris brown, and rihanna and coldplay and bruce springsteen and who do you get excited about, and you can't say all of them. >> as the host, i look at the body of work, but as a fan, everybody knows i grew up and with hip-hop and hip-hop to the core, but i did grow up seeing that bruce springsteen back pocket with the flag and part of the ether and i want to see the boss perform. >> it's a good time for the boss to perform and to maybe seeing "born in the usa." such a patriotic country, america. >> it is. >> i get a sense of collective deflation. everyone's a bit down in the dumps. >> you know, it's okay, you know to, you know -- sometimes if you carry a load up steps it is okay take a break. exhale. lift it up. keep moving. i don't think america will give up and i think that deep down in the recesses of our american psyche we see ourselves coming out of all of this turmoil or whatever you want to call it, perceived turmoil and going on to bigger and better things but it comes with the territory. i mean, it is like this. you know? you're down here and higher than you were before. >> how important is it that big companies like apple which i'm a massive consumer of a lot of apple at my house and i love what steves jobs -- >> i pull out a blackberry i'm reminded. i get reminded every time. i have a blackberry. >> one thing i can't get used to is iphone. my fingers are too big. other than that, apple everywhere. i have a real ideological problem with the fact they employ more people in china than they do in america. to me, it is just wrong. and i had this debate with financial people and i say, look, why can't they just say one day we bring back 10% of the work force and put it back in america and take a bit of the hit and american people would respond so favorably and make the money back anyway. >> because, you know, like in all businesses and like in politics and anything else, sometimes your greatest strength can be your greatest achilles heel and talking about capitalist and moving money from this place to that place and getting the best urn. and you know, part of the reason why capitalism works is because we move money from this place to that place to get the best return. >> do you have any problem with it? do you understand -- >> personally do i have a problem with it? you know, i would love to see a korea yative way for more americans to stay employed and stay involved. i don't necessarily think that i want to tell a business owner how to run their business or how to make sure that their business works because ultimately the corporation that living entity is a person that -- and its only goal in life to make sure it feeds the bottom line for the shareholders so, you know, that's the grey area, the shiny grey area we deal with talking about business and capitalism. >> i think if the whole focus with getting americans back to work, changes the whole thinking. >> i think that you're right. i agree with that. americans want to work. everybody's not running around, you know, with a big bottle of fancy celebrity cognac laughing it up. people are hurting and suffering. >> i would run on two things. if i was able to run for president which i'm not, i would run on better education and getting americans back to work. everything else would follow. >> i agree with that but i think this is where it's complicated. easy to run on something but problem is executing. there's so many moving pieces and, you know, washington is so dynamic and so many players with so many different agendas, not all the villains, different agendas. they may feel totally right about what they're doing and you have to keep that in mind. ultimately, most people agree that they want americans working. the problem comes in that some people feel it's the government's responsibility to get them working. others feel it's private business owner who is need to get them working. i personally think it's a combination so the american people are taken care of. >> i can't let this go without talking you about love. >> yeah. >> you have a love of a great woman, four kids. >> yes. >> what have you learned about yourself through that process? >> eat your soup, let her talk. >> do you know what? i'm going to leave it there. that is the best advice for a man i have ever heard in my life. ll cool j, great time. >> you, too, my man. coming up, clyde davis and grammy winner jennifer hudson. ♪ [ male announcer ] why do we grow quaker oats? because there are mountains to climb. ♪ dreams to be realized. ♪ new worlds to be explored and hearts to be won. quaker oats. energy to get you going, fiber to help fill you up and help keep your heart healthy. super people eat super grains. so i used my citi thank you card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? we talked about getting a diamond. but with all the thank you points i've been earning... ♪ ...i flew us to the rock i really had in mind. ♪ [ male announcer ] the citi thank you card. earn points you can use for travel on any airline, with no blackout dates. earn points you can use for travel on any airline, in the works package, we change the oil we change the filter... tire rotation, suspension, we make suspension checks... what we have here is the multi-point inspection. every time a vehicle comes into a ford dealership you'll be presented with one of these. we check the belts, hoses... brakes. tires and the pressures... battery, all your fluids... exhaust system, transmission... we inspect your air filter... it gets done,it gets done quickly and it gets done correctly. the works. oil change, tire rotation and more: $29.95 or less after rebate - at your ford dealer. you're a doctor... you're a car doctor. maybe a car doctor... man on tv: ...rbis and 36 homers. swings at the first pitch and fouls it deep back into the stands. [ding] [fans whirring] announcer: chill raw and prepared foods promptly. one in 6 americans will get sick from food poisoning this year. check your steps at foodsafety.gov. ♪ ain't nobody love you like i'm going to love you ♪ ♪ can't nobody love you like i'm going to love you ♪ i want to bring in two of the biggest names in the music business. but first, what do these names have in common? ♪ i will always love you ♪ if you really need me ♪ just reach out and touch me ♪ come on honey tell me so ♪ at the copa copa cabana ♪ the hottest spot north of havana ♪ ♪ i get what i want since you have been gone ♪ ♪ i have never loved someone the way that i love you ♪ ♪ well i don't like leaving under your spotlight ♪ >> the answer of course is one man, clive davis. he is the man who makes stars out of all of the people you saw and he is here with one of the biggest stars oscar and grammy award winner jennifer hudson. welcome to you both. >> thank you. >> and great honor to have the man in my studio. jennifer, you are a fantastic story and you know why i love your story? because simon cowell didn't spot your talent, and i remind him of this every time i see him. and if you come on "america's got talent" i would have made sure you won. >> wow. thank you for that. [ laughter ] >> how do you feel, clive, about because you swooped on this amazing talent after i think that after you saw the real "dream girls." did you see her on "american idol" and did you pick up on jennifer then? >> i did. but i saw her talent and i saw the rough talent and the rough screen test when she sang, and you know, sang the great songs and saw her acting ability and that sold me. so, we got together after that. i reached out to her and signed her. >> and you are living, walking proof that these shows which often get derided by critics really can produce world class stars. can't they? >> i think so. i think that, like, reality shows are a good platform. one for you to display your talent. two, it teaches you and prepares you for the industry in which you're trying to become a part of. you know? so i feel like it's a very good thing. i do. >> you went through a huge roller coaster of emotions i would imagine. you are in this amazing show, doing fantastically well and then the heartbreak. you don't make the final three. and you have probably going home thinking that's it? what were you thinking? >> you know, i mean, i had that moment right there. very briefly. i was like, you know, it's over everybody goes through that. nobody wants to be rejected but i quickly got over it. i said i'm walking away the prize and my talent. even in the exit speech, i said, you know what? it's something in store me. i don't know when or how but i have to sing to it. two years later i got "dream girls." >> what was the moment for you when you realized you were going to make it? >> i guess when -- that's a good question. when i got that second chance and it's not every day that you get second chances. and when i say that, i mean, like, being able to audition for "dream girls" and then being one of the people that was being called back over and over again for it. you know? >> could you sense it was going to be a big movie? >> that i didn't know. that was a huge surprise to me. i had no idea what would ham come from it. >> that's what i mean when you realize. that movie could have bombed. >> it could have. >> you would have had another blow. what was the moment you knew it was going to be a smash and you and your career would never look back? >> oh, goodness. um, i probably didn't know that until i was like nominated for things. i honestly didn't. because even when we would be filming on set, i wouldn't know i had a scene that would be on my shoulders to lead. you know? until i was in the middle of it of it or one of the times jamie said you'll be nominated for an oscar for this. every time someone would say that on the set, whatever, pay it no attention. i had no idea. somebody once said, like, the amazing thing is she has no idea what she's in store for. >> let's take a clip from "dream girls" because it was an incredible performance. >> thank you. ♪ you're going to love me ♪ ♪ >> oh my god. even when i hear it again, it knocks your socks off. do you sing like that in the bath? >> sometimes if i have enough energy to. >> get up in the morning and go -- >> sometimes. you have to feel it. it's an emotional thing. >> she has some set of pipes on her, doesn't she? you have seen some of the great singers of all time. where does she rank? >> she ranks right up there. for me, i've been involved with divas, dionne warwick and then aret arethra franklin and then whitney houston. i saw a depth and a range and a soulfulness that rarely ranks at the top level and that's why we've been working together ever since. >> i'm always assumed and correct me if i'm wrong but it's hard to beat whitney at her peak. hard, right? when i hear you sometimes, i do genuinely feel and i'm not an expert like clyde is, but i feel she's nearly there. maybe as good now? >> oh, there's -- listen. it's hard to make comparisons. for years, working with aretha franklin, can whitney compare? they're all-timers and jennifer, definitely has that potential. >> let's take a break. i want to come back and talk about how you look. according to a magazine in the last two years, too big, too small, too skinny, too whatever. i'm looking at what i think -- unless i'm wrong, clyde, almost physical perfection. >> perfection. >> thank you. >> they're all talking contrition. let's come back and talk. w pron. it's from centrum. it's a smaller minigel. with two of the best omegas to support my heart, brain and eyes. new pronutrients from centrum. 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>> i try not to pay attention. you will go bonkers and pay in to what everyone into what everyone said how you should look. i have come to learn there is no winning with losing weight. it's like when you lose weight, you are too small. first you can't do it and then you do it and then you are too small. it goes from there and never ends. that is why you have to do it for you. >> you have been through stuff in the last few years nobody would ever want to go through. i won't dwell on that, but where do you find the strength that you have shown? that's what's impressed me about you. this inner strength that you have. >> well, first of all, i have to give credit to god and my upbringing. i grew up around a very religious-based family. my grandmother was spiritual and i grew up in the church. my mother was a very wise and strong person. i feel like she raised us well and prepared me well. that's what i live by. go back to the base. >> if you took those values to motherhood and impenning marriage? >> definitely. every day. that's a blessing in itself. >> what are the core values you got from your mother and grandmother that you can take forward? >> my goodness. again, my faith in god and family. family is everything. i have my son and i have my fiance and my sister. even my friends. my assistant, we have known each other since the sixth grade. 11 years old. keeping family near. >> you have this huge pregrammy party tomorrow night. richard branson is being honored there and jane fonda presenting. did you know this? >> yes. >> it's an amazing event. everybody goes to this. tell me about it. what's the thinking behind it? >> it started the year i started a rifta records. we had a number one record, mandy by barry manilow. every company celebrates the night and said to barry, if we celebrated we had two tables in los angeles. let's do something the night before. stevie wonder came out and john came. i knew it was on to something special. that began the tradition. the night before the grammys, everybody comes from motion pictures and television and from records. we all celebrate music. no winners and no losers. i paired people over with alicia keys. >> who are do you have this year? at that point liz me. >> the show will open with tony bennett. he had a great album this year. >> greatest living kruener. >> i would say. >> here's a question for you. i wondered what your answer would be. if i can only allow to you listen to one song for the rest of your life on repeat, what would it be? >> it would be very painful. to listen to one song. >> i'm forcing you at gunpoint. >> among my fondest memories, it would be bridge over troubled waters. the spiritual nature and the incredible song that paul simon wrote and that performance that art garfunkel gave is memorable. there is not one song, but if i had to comply with your hypothetical, i would say that. >> if you think for a few weeks about keeping america great, when you look at what's happening with america now, what do you think the answer is to get america fired up again? >> i think it will to be an improved campaign. so far i think the debates among the prospects has been disappointing. i am a great believer in president obama. i believe he is capable of inspiring this country and to absolutely trigger that greatness again. the first year there were many issues that might have side tracked, but i'm a believer and i believe barack obama is going to lead us to a great second term. i would like to see a greater commitment to funds so that highways and schools and the quality of life can be and restore america. >> what you are saying is we need a bridge over troubled waters. where we started the conversation. it has been a pleasure to meet you. best of luck with the party and have fun at the grammys. look forward to seeing you and it will be a hell of a night. a special grammy edition of only in america with barbara streisand. goodnight, stuffy. goodnight, outdated. goodnight old luxury and all of your wares. goodnight bygones everywhere. 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