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And laura jarrett, cnn justice correspondent. Great to have you all here. Lets talk about where we are with impeachment. I need you guys to explain how this impasse is going to be broken. Nancy pelosi is not going to send the articles of impeachment over until Mitch Mcconnell can guarantee its going to be a short trial. Mitch mcconnell has guaranteed hell not be an impartial juror and is working hand in glove with the white house. He also says, fine, dont send them over. I dont want to have a trial in the senate. As john point eed out, the only fly in the ointment is that the president wants to have that moment of President Trump being acquitted in the senate. What is going to happen . Donald trump needs to get some serious legal advice. Hes not the worlds easiest client, but somebody needs to sit him down in a serious way and say, you do not want a circus here. You do not want a long, drawn out trial. You are not going to have that moment of vindication. You are winning right now. The status quo right now is donald trump will not be convicted in the senate. One thing they teach us when were baby prosecutors is, if you are winning in court, shut up and sit down. And someone needs to tell donald trump, maybe a little nicer than that, but shut up and sit down. How is it winning to have been impeached . Oh, no, thats over, but in terms of the ultimate outcome in the senate. If he thinks hes going to have a dramatic trial thats going to somehow undo the impeachment in the hour, hes kidding himself. He wants a senate trial because he thinks it means he can get unimpeached. He cant. Unimpeachment is not in the constitution. The question is whether hell be removed from office. With this maneuver, a lot of us are wondering, what is nancy pelosi doing here . Its a lot more clear to me this morning because shes created this third party, the president whose interests are not in line. Theres tension there. To have the specter of it weighted over him for a long time. Obviously, the reporting shows hes not happy about it. Hes privately fuming about it. Hes talking to his buddy senator Lindsey Graham saying, whats going on . He thought this was going to be done, maybe even by the iowa caucuses. Now nancy pelosi is wielding her power to show, i dont have to move this along. So were going to be at least until january and maybe even longer because what does she have to lose . To drag this out as long as possible. There may be a Tipping Point in which voters say enough is enough, but right now, she gets to have this over the whole holidays and hell be at maralago not happy about this. He may want a big show to have hunter biden and joe biden testify. Look who had a big moment last night. Even addressing a question of whether he was too naive to assume in a posttrump world there could be bipartisanship. I of all people am not naive. Look how they have attacked me. So you have someone who came out arguably stronger, and the president , yes, hes always going to be that impeached president , but he wants someone else to go down and thats joe biden and hunter biden. Heres what senator Lindsey Graham said last night about this after speaking to President Trump. I just left President Trump. Hes mad as hell that they would do this to him, and now deny him his day in court. The reason they are denying his day in court is they know their case sucks. What day in court . He wasnt participating. Was President Trump going to show up at a senate trial . No way he was going to show up. He was going to send his legal team there. He declined to show up in the house but hed absolutely have to show up in the house. So they would have to participate on some level . Thats the answer is yes. The answer here is wow. Polite yes. Any time i Say Something brilliant, this goes off. So then they couldnt just stonewall the way they did in the house. Theyd have to show up . They could still, but to me, its crazy that were arguing about, should there be witnesses at a trial . Call me oldfashioned but isnt that what trials are all about . The precedent here, i learned from professor gerhardt yesterday, 40something witnesses in Andrew Johnsons trial, three in bill clintons trial and the record was set. It was in a box. You had the starr report. Here theres so many Unanswered Questions and were thinking of having a trial with no witnesses . I dont know how thats 71 of americans in our poll say they want to hear witnesses in the senate trial. What was it, 64 of republicans . If the fight is about hearing witnesses, the democrats are winning. Joe manchin, the conservative democrat from West Virginia has come out and said he wants witnesses, which is interesting. He could be someone who said who knows how he could vote, but he wants witnesses. This puts pressure on the four to six republican senators like susan collins, cory gardner. Theyre going to be asked, what do you want to see happen there . They have to listen to their constituents over the holidays. They could potentially get pushback on this and say, wait a minute. Its one thing to be in defense of the president but have no witnesses whatsoever . Thats the thorn in mcconnells side. He doesnt care what nancy pelosi is doing but if he gets even a handful of those vulnerable republicans to say, wait a minute. We have to hear from a few people, thats where things get interesting. 71 of americans are agreeing there should be witnesses is because this isnt asking for too much, right . Its not an over the top request to have the people who have firsthand knowledge of what transpired as witnesses in this trial. And i think republicans and Mitch Mcconnell need to come to a conclusion as to whether this is a trial or a political process because hes weighing both all the time and its one or the other but it cant be both. Lets talk about this interesting piece in the post overnight. Journalists, as well as pundits and regular people have tried to figure out where the ukraine Conspiracy Theory began, the genesis of this. Was it Rudy Giuliani . Well, according to the Washington Post, it was a different source. It was vladimir putin. So heres they basically say after meeting privately in july 2017, the russian president vladimir putin, at the group of 20 summit, trump grew more insistent that ukraine worked to defeat him according to multiple foreign officials familiar with his assertions. He meets privately one on one with putin away from transcribers and go on. The money quote from the Washington Post is this. Once former senior white house officials said trump even stated so explicitly at one point saying he knew ukraine was the real culprit because putin told me. And there it is. We spend too much time focusing on putins role in this. Its not really any different from his predecessors. Every soviet leader wanted to interfere in u. S. Elections and was transmitting false tales about what was happening in the u. S. And wanted to cause discord. The difference is you finally have a president willing to buy into that who trusts this person. Why we dont yet know, but its still baffling to me that we continue to hear these stories, years after this took place, that these are his top advisers who are now coming out off the record and saying heres something that should have set off alarm bells internally and, i think, nationwide in realtime. Its really telling. We need to stop normalizing this buddy buddy relationship because theres nothing normal about it and its a real harm to u. S. National security. One of the things that i see here that weve seen time and again is you want your decisionmakers. Your president , your government to take the facts and reach a conclusion. Here it seems theyre doing all this. Start with the conclusion. What do we want the end story to be and backfill in the facts. Can i tell you one other reason the discussions weve had play together and why republicans have told me over the last month, one of the things that concerns them as theres a delay in the senate trial is they just dont know whats around the corner. They dont know what new information can come out. They dont know what newspaper is going to publish which finding. This person, this former senior white house official, might this person come forward and explain the conversation that they directly heard . Theres the fear of the unknown and not just that. Theres the expectation, laura, among some republicans is that there is more out there. Whether or not we find out what it is, theres more. We havent heard from john bolton. This is a key fact witness. We havent heard from mulvaney. We havent heard from the people who were in the room for some of these conversations. Pompeo. We could name a dozen people who were present for some troubling episodes who we havent heard from, and there are plenty of former officials who are obviously privy to a lot of this information and willing to talk. But i mean, its amazing that the Washington Post publishes that article. Obviously, its eyepopping. Fiona hill testified. We spent a lot of time trying to dispute this notion. A lot of this is out there not from Anonymous Sources but public testimony. And almost every single republican knows better. So anybody thats defending the president s argument that its now ukraine, they know thats not the case. And they should be equally alarmed. Theres a real trial lawyer on that team, what they are telling donald trump is trial is unpredictable, its dynamic. You are at risk as long as this trial is open. Who knows who could come forward. Ive seen all sorts of surprises happen midtrial for good, for bad. As long as this is an open matter, who knows what could happen. Are there still court cases that might compel john bolton, Mick Mulvaney to come forward or were those retracted . Where are we with there is no case on bolton and mulvaney. Thats essentially become article two of the articles of impeachment, obstruction of congress. The only one still alive is don mcgahn which is at the court of appeals but it would take a miracle for that to be finished with the court of appeals, the Supreme Court at the same time frame and Mueller Mcgahn is not part of the articles so i dont see that breaking the logjam. Great to have you here. Happy holidays to everybody. Its dangerous to say that. I keep poking the bear by saying that. Who is the bear. Happy holidays is very controversial. Youre not supposed to say happy holidays. But there are two holidays right now so its fine to use the plural. One would think but it upsets a lot of people to say happy holidays. Well see what twitter does to you. A prominent christian magazine calling President Trump profoundly immoral and he should be removed from office. What does this mean for his support from evangelicals . Thats next. Sfx [sneezing] i am not for ignoring the first sign of a cold. I am for shortening my cold, with zicam zicam is completely different. Unlike most other cold medicines, zicam is clinically proven to shorten colds. I am a zifan for zicam oral or nasal. children playing dog barking Music Building experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list sales event. Sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down, zero due at signing, and a complimentary first months payment. Choose the longest lasting thiaa battery. Son music energizer ultimate lithium backed by science. Matched by no one. Quote, trump should be removed from office. Thats the headline from christianity today, a leading evangelical magazine founded by the late minister billy graham. Evangelicals are one of the key pieces of President Trumps base and their support will be crucial if he is to win reelection in 2020. Joining us to talk about this, ben howe, the author of the immoral majority, why evangelicals chose political power over christian values. Ben, great to see you this morning. Tell us what the significance of this statement from christianity today is about how the president , they say, is so immoral that he deserves to be removed from office. Well, you know, i think the fact that a christian who feels compelled to speak out to his fellow christians about what should be expected of them is a great thing, but i think theres a little bit that he was missing in the article. One of those things is that donald trump hasnt changed, even before he ran for president. Weve known who he is. Thats one of the reasons i opposed him in 2016 and why i continue to not support him into his presidency. But if you are trying as an evangelical leader to convince other christians that they need to move away from donald trump, simply pointing out the things they already know about him, that they knew about him when they voted for him isnt going to do that. They already know these things. Theyve already become content with it. What really needs to happen is to understand that its the manner in which they support him, the lengths they will go to in that support. Thats the problem and also that they embrace so much negativity and not, you know, embracing the ideas of the sermon on the mount, loving your neighbor, loving your enemies, things of that nature. Thats the problem. Donald trump is just putting up a mirror to that group. Its not about him in a lot of ways. I hear you, but i think the editor is trying to make that point. Ill read you the passage where he talks about that. To the many evangelicals who continue to support mr. Trump in support of his blackened moral record we may say this. Remember who you are and whom you serve. Consider how your justification of mr. Trump influences your influence to your lord and savior. Consider what an unbelieving world will say if you continue to brush off mr. Trumps immoral words and behavior in the cause of political expediency. And i read the article and i understand that he is addressing the fact that they support him, but hes using that immorality that trump has committed. Hes using the things that trump has done and said and only that. Hes not talking about hes saying this guy is immoral. You shouldnt support him. What hes not talking about are some of the horrible things weve seen. People like Robert Jeffreys and others who are claiming that if you are a progressive, you cant be a christian. People talking about partisan politics even outside of donald trump as though there is one side who is going to go to heaven and one side thats going to go to hell. Theres so much that this group has said, not just in defense specifically of donald trump, but in the whole idea of partisan politics and republican politics. It needs to be harder on the people beyond just youre supporting an immoral president. They have become immoral beyond that. The ways theyre acting emulates what he does. And what about i mean, to your point, the things in the past that they somehow had to stomach. We could go through the litany of paying hush money to a porn star and lying about it in a statement. Mocking a handicapped person at a rally. I mean, we could go on and on up to today, this week where weve seen what he said about late congressman john dingell. How do evangelicals reconcile all of that with their own faith . Well, i talk a lot about this in my book. Basically what theyve done is theyve created a moral dimemma. Its not a real moral dilemma, but theyve placed donald trump into a position where he is supporting things like, lets say, you know, abortion issues. Hes going to be a prolife president , Supreme Court, things of that nature that they think are a higher moral concern than any problems he brings to the table. So as long as they can continue to hold this greater good that they believe hes accomplishing as the reason to support him, theres virtually nothing he can do that is going to make them lose their support. And you know, even in this instance, the shift here with this article is not that the evangelical im not convinced the author, you know, was a maga guy to begin with. More and more people are comfortable leaders are comfortable with the idea of saying these things and not concerned about alienating those evangelical christians. I think thats significant because there has been a fear, especially in publications like this, that if they go to antitrump for instance, they are going to lose their readership. But tell me a little more about that. You think the fact that this editor of christianity today has said all of this means that, what, hes not afraid of losing his readership . Well, i think that there is a stigma for a lot of christians that for a lot of christians who have opposed trump that it didnt start right away. Early on in the primaries, there was a big divide among christians about whether or not to vote for trump, whether or not to support trump. He didnt actually get a significant or at least a majority of evangelicals, even at super tuesday he had less than 50 . The rallying started in the summer of 2016. And within a few months, it became almost as though if you oppose trump you support things antitheical to christianity and that was the birth of what happened over the next few years. Getting to the antiof what i said earlier. Progressives arent going to heaven and things of that nature. Whats significant is if theres christian leaders who obviously still want to reach throngs of people and they know those throngs of people by and large support the president and they are still willing to say this without worrying about alienating, thats a strength as a christian certainly, and it also shows that stigma that theyre not concerned about could be a result and this remains to be seen, of what they are hearing on the ground. What they are hearing from others. Whether theres a shift in the evangelical base remains to be seen, but the fact that more leaders are coming out and saying these things is significant. Okay. Ben howe, we appreciate you being on. Your book, the immoral majority. Great to talk to you. Thank you. The leading Democratic Candidates squared off. There were candidates not on the stage. How senator cory booker expects to be there next time. Thats next. 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Heard a lot of frustration from folks that there was more talk about wine caves than there were about gun violence or reproductive rights. We really got to be careful as a party about tearing each other down at a time where we see whats going on in washington and we need to unite. Bring our Party Together so we can bring a real fight to beat donald trump and push mcconnell back to the back benches. I will tell you, even though you were not on the stage, voters in our focus group that gary tuchman did, they talk bodies you. We have some video. A few of them said theyre going to caucus with you and even showed up with cory booker tshirts. Youre still on the mind of some iowa voters. And you were mentioned on the debate stage by one of your competitors, andrew yang. I want to play that. Its both an honor and disappointment to be the lone candidate of color on the stage. I miss kamala and cory, though i think cory will be back. The question is, why am i the lone candidate of color on this stage . Fewer than 5 of americans donate to political campaigns. You know what you need to donate to political campaigns . Disposable income. Now thats his take. I wonder what your take is on this. Why was andrew yang the only candidate of color on that stage . Well, its frustrating. We had our best debate in the last one of the debates here. Focus group overwhelmingly chose me as the best performance. And we saw a surge in online donations, but there were very few polls between that debate and this one. Weve now, since they closed the debate stage weve seen ourselves, this is why andrew is saying ill be back. Were popping in the polls. Numbers are rising. Its frustrating. So you see in iowa here wall to wall steyer and bloomberg ads. Im not a billionaire. So were going to continue to ask people to go to corybooker. Com and support this campaign in iowa. Were now up to number three according to one of the recent polls in that favorability. Were popular in a state where most people havent made up their mind yet. Local media calls us one of the best top organizing teams. Well do like every president from our party in my lifetime did who were polling in low single digits. Carter, even barack obama right now was 15, 20 points behind Hillary Clinton at this time. Were going to win here in iowa. I wonder what role you think that race is playing in it, though. And one of the reasons i ask because jason johnson, a political commentator on another network says the reason you cant do more black people on stage is because you have a lot of white voters who dont think a black person can get elected against donald trump. Thats a fact. Why be afraid of saying something so common, something so reasonable to any political scientist or pollster whos througho throughout. The last time we won the white house, an overwhelming wave election that swept out swept democrats into power in congress, was when we had an africanamerican president. It caused us to have the highest levels of africanamerican turnout weve ever had. If turnout in 2016 amongst black voters was the same as in 2012, it would be president Hillary Clinton. That would have been enough to get her over. Whoever our nominee is, and this is why im running so hard, they have to be the one that resurrects that Obama Coalition and black and brown voters are so essential. Not just to winning the white house, but to winning in south carolina, north carolina, georgia, arizona, to getting rid of Mitch Mcconnell. Ive shown in new jersey, winning in a very diverse state but where blacks are a small minority, that i can get record black and brown turnouts, and inspire suburban voters and other key members of our demographic. Ive got the best electability argument of anybody in this field because i know i can resurrect the coalitions we need to win big in november. Brandnew cnn poll out this morning. We asked voters about the economy. 76 of voters that we talked to said the Economic Conditions in the country today are good. That is as high of a number as we have seen in years. Last night this was talked about on the stage. One of the things we heard is, oh, well, the middle class isnt feeling it. When 76 of people polled say the economy is good, thats not to include a slice of the middle class. Thats not just the 1 responding. How do you make the case that you need to get the president out on the basis of the economy . Well, its simple. Right now all americans know that were doing nothing on health care costs. Prescription drug costs. We know that we have a tax system thats way, weighted in the hands of the wealthiest amongst us. Most americans know the crisis of everything from college to child care are running out of control. So what i hear from town hall after town hall here in iowa and around this country is the economy is overall good but theyre not measuring their wellbeing based upon gdper the stock market. They are measuring it on how its harder. Let me give you one data point i find fascinating. Baby boomers at this point when they were in their 30s controlled about 20 to 30 of the wealth of a country. Millennials, its about 3 . Its getting harder and harder for the next generations in our country to have strong senses of economic wellbeing and im going to change that as president of the united states. Create a fairer Playing Field where we all have pathways to prosperity. You have to juggle a lot. Youre running for president. Lastminute christmassh shoppin and theres a matter of a senate trial to remove the president. I had Chuck Schumer on the show on monday. To what extent are you going to try to protect those senators running for president . And he told me not at all. He said its not a priority for him. Its just tough. Senators like you and Amy Klobuchar. What impact will it have on your campaign . Dont forget michael bennet, too. Schumer is right. He should not be giving any consideration to this. I know ill be in my chair, in my seat in the senate doing my job. I swore an oath to do it. Trump may violate his oath but i wont violate mine. Voters are sophisticated enough to do that. I know that here in iowa, as well as other places going into the primaries weve built an incredible grassroots team. Were one of the leading candidates in endorsements from local officials. I know we have what it takes to win despite it, but all of us right now in this very sad time for our country, we have got to deal with what i think is a level of moral vandalism in the white house weve never seen, and i think that he has done things that were deserving of being impeached and well have a trial and i will be there as an objective juror reviewing the facts. Senator cory booker, i know one thing about iowa in december, its pretty clear you should be wearing a jacket. Thank you for being with us today. Wish you the best of holidays, sir. Thank you. I hope folks will go to corybooker. Com. We can afford a bus but maybe ill get a jacket as well. Thats just a joke, but thank you for having me on. Wishing you all the best. You, too. And a hat, senator. He does this. What are you saying . Hes outside in New Hampshire without a coat, okay . So well see if he changes that. Meanwhile, the president leans on the strength of the economy as proof of his success. 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Not sure i needed a poll to know that voters like a Strong Economy. They do. And, really, time heals all wounds. Its been ten years since the recovery. Theyre believing it now. Its the economy, stupid. It favors President Trump. Stock markets are at record highs. Unemployment rate at a 50year low. Summer recession fears evaporated. And last night the democrats tried to make a distinction between a good economy for the rich and a fair economy for everyone else. The middle class is not as behind the 8 ball. We have to make sure they have an even shot. We have to eliminate significant numbers of these godawful tax cuts given to the wealthy. Trump goes around saying the economy is doing great. You know what real inflation accounted for wages went up last year . 1. 1 . That aint great. People are not getting paid enough. That is not the result of some mysterious cosmic force. Its the result of bad policy. If you look at the polls, its a tough sell because the president has the megaphone here. He cheerleads the stock market and takes credit for what he says is the best economy in history. Its not. We learned the economy grew at 2. 1 in the third quarter. Thats not the 3 , 4 , 5 the president has said his tax cuts and rolled back regulation would produce. Yes, job growths is solid. But in the first 33 months of the trump presidency, some 6. 25 million jobs created. That trails the 7. 38 million in the final 33 months of the obama years. But the president came to office promising a manufacturing renaissance, and it started strong. 443,000 new factory jobs. Most added in the first couple of years of the administration. That bests the obama years. More recently, manufacturing has fallen into recession, shrinking performance and job growth there in manufacturing has stalled. That would be really important into next year. The economy is not as super charged as the president promised but it might not matter. Americans ten years into the recovery believe things are better. 76 rate Economic Conditions today somewhat very or somewhat good. Thats the most, you guys, since february 2001. Alisyn and john . It really is interesting. Low, slow growth, which has been the story for ten years, it might now finally be sinking in. This might be a story of time more than anything else. Time heals all wounds. All right, romans. Have a wonderful holiday. Merry christmas. I left you something in your office. I know. Oh, what is it . Every year is it better than my gift . Every year i tell john, do me a favor. I dont get you a present, you dont get me a present. Then he gets me a present. Which is the present you give back to me. He just cant quit you. Its time now for the good stuff. Too cute to prosecute. They noticed toys they were collecting for kids this Holiday Season were disappearing. They launched an internal investigation. It turns out the departments therapy dog ben franklin was caught on camera taking a toy, then leading them on a slow speed chase to the rest of the loot. The facility is locked down. So we knew it was just a few toys and simple to figure out it was ben. When ben saw the toys, he thought they all belonged to him. The facility was locked down. They had cameras everywhere. Ben was not going to get away with it. He must have been a good boy, though, this year. He gets to keep the toys he took, mostly because he slobbered all over them. Which is the same way i get to keep most of my gifts. The Police Department did, in fact, replace them. I want to be too cute to prosecute. That going to be your Bumper Sticker . Thats my slogan for president. I think its been used before. I think its been used before in some cases also, yeah. The office of legal counsels statement. Too good to prosecute. And what the attorney general says. Meanwhile, one candidate getting a lot of attention this morning is minnesota senator Amy Klobuchar. How does she think she did last night . We talk to her about it. man sneezes whats the time . Device a dime is ten cents. Severe cold or flu . Take control with theraflu. Powerful, soothing relief to defeat your worst cold and flu symptoms fast. Device sneezes theraflu. The power is in your hands. Aveeno® with prebiotic striple oat complex balances skins microbiome. So skin looks like this and you feel like this. Aveeno® skin relief. Get skin healthy™ december 21st through the 24th sale at petsmart, buy 2 get 1 free on all dog toys or treats plus this weekend, bring in your family and pets for a free photo with santa. Four days left to save. At petsmart it was a very interesting democratic debate last night. And president ial candidate senator Amy Klobuchar joins us now to talk about it. Good morning, senator. Hi, alisyn. Great to be on. Its great to have you. Im sure you didnt get a lot of sleep. How do you rate your performance last night . I actually got 3 1 2 hours of sleep. Ill start with that. But i had a lot of fun. I had okay. Go ahead. Im sorry about the satellite. I know that its tough. Sorry there was someone speaking in my ear. What i wanted to say okay. What i wanted to say was that i felt good about the debate. It was a lot of fun. And i think having fewer candidates, although i miss some of my friends and hope cory will be back for the next debate, allowed us to make some of our cases. It allowed me to make the case that the midwest isnt flyover country to me. I live there. Allowed me to make the case that experience should matter when the voters are making this really important decision about who should head up our ticket, who is best able to beat donald trump, who can win in those states we lost in 2016. And then also allowed me to make some policy. Very important policy arguments about why i dont agree with senator sanders on the medicare for all. Im the one that didnt get on that bill because i read it, and i saw on page 8 that it meant that you kick 149 million americans off their Current Health insurance, and that, in fact, i think were much better off with the nonprofit public option which will bring down premiums for everyone and cover more people. You are the second candidate to say that they miss cory booker on the stage. You dont often hear this about competitors. What is it about cory booker that makes you and andrew yang miss him so much . Cory and i are friends. No one can go through that kavanaugh hear together. We serve on the judiciary committee, without getting closer. And weve also gotten closer as the campaign trail went on, as well as with senator harris who im going to miss very much up on that stage. So we had a little cone of friendship there. Hopefully hell be back. I also at times would write little notes back and forth to cory during the debates. And, you know, were going to hope to see him up there. Id like to see what those notes are, unless theyre classified. No. Heres cnn has done a focus group of iowa voters. Weve gone back to them after every democratic debate. And i think youll be interested to hear what they had to say last night. Listen to this. She just comes across as having thoughtful, specific answers and not rehearsed talking points. When the other ones were bickering, she was there to defuse it and bring focus back on why they were there. They are talking about you. 10 out of those 11 folks that watched the debate felt that you had the best night. And i dont have to tell you that polls dont necessarily reflect that performance that they think that you had. And so whats your plan today for how you seize on that momentum . I think, by the way, that last point, having been someone that is always trying to get things done, bring people together, that you can see that on the debate stage, as well as how i do my work. So i appreciated that point. In terms of how were doing across the country, we saw our highest poll ever up to 10 in iowa. Amy klobuchar. Com, weve gotten so many contributions from regular people because of the last few debates. Its allowed us to double our offices. Someone texts me with an auto correct, with a mistake the other day. I love your insurgency in iowa. I think it was supposed to be surge. And were doubling our staff in New Hampshire, adding people in nevada, as well as south carolina. And i realized im not as well known as these other candidates. So my big challenge because i believe most people are going to agree with me on the issues, on my experience, and how i want to run this race and how i want to govern. My big challenge is to make sure i get my name out there without having the big bank account of some of my opponents. And so what ive been doing is telling people, look, when you see your friends on the holidays and your family, call anyone you know in minnesota. Thats a good job reference. They may not have voted for me. They may not agree with me on everything, but theyll tell people that i work hard, have peoples back and im true to my word. So im just trying some unique techniques here to be able to get my name out there beyond the midwest and make sure people know about me all over the country. Its really that simple. Senator, you just mentioned a bank account, the amount of a bank account. That came up last night a few different ways. As you know, there was this moment between mayor Pete Buttigieg and senator Elizabeth Warren that has led to, i think, the wine cave trending on twitter. And its about privilege. But its also about wealth and who has it and who should have it and if you should feel bad for having it. Americans elected donald trump, a billionaire, last time. Do you think that its somehow a disadvantage if a candidate is wealt wealthy . I look at it more this way. I want an even Playing Field in american politics so that no matter how much money you have, you should win if you have the best idea s and the best experience, not the loudest voice or biggest bank account. And that bank account can allow people to run a whole bunch of ads as were seeing right now. So while people can be a strong public servant, regardless of how much money they have. If they have it, if they dont. I just want to make sure peoples voices are heard. I feel so strongly about Campaign Finance reform and reversing that Citizens United decision because its not right if outside money can come out and influence an election like that. So what i did last night when that debate went on and on about the wine cave, i did admit ive never been to a wine cave. Im sure one day ill see one but that i had been in the wind cave in south dakota, which is a Cool National park and that in fact, what we should be talking about i said, i didnt come here to win an argument. I came here to make a case for progress. And what we should be talking about is Campaign Finance reform and that whole bill that passed the house of representatives, all these good things in it to make our elections work better and be more fair about things like gerrymandering and purging election rules and thats sitting on Mitch Mcconnells desk right now. So why dont we win an election big so we not just win the presidency, but that we send him packing so were able to have votes on those bills which we are not right now so the American People can have a say. Senator Amy Klobuchar, we appreciate you getting up early and talking with us. 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