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A third decade. There are eight candidates standing in this president ial election, but of course theres only one serious contender. Well have the first returns on the russian election. Putin won. Good morning, everybody, so glad to have you with us here. You all right . Yeah, i know, its sunday. Just trying to get everything together. Im victor blackwell. Good morning to you. The president is escalating his attacks on his own Law Enforcement agencies and once again claiming that the russia investigation, which, remember, has resulted in indictments and guilty pleas and new sanctions is a witch hunt. Its a view thats shared by one of his top lawyers whos facing backlash for suggesting that the investigation needs to be shut down. None of this is stopping special Counsel Robert Mueller who we now know met with former fbi Deputy Director Andrew Mccabe and has notes on all of mccabes interactions with President Trump. Dan merica is following all of these developments from washington. What more do we know about repo Robert Muellers sitdown with the Deputy Director 0 are how he got ahold of these memos . We know that President Trump continues to fume and rage about this investigation hes has for a long time. Whats new here is as were told former fbi director Andrew Mccabe actually sat down with Robert Mueller, was interviewed by him, handed over these notes that he took which are critical because they could corroborate what james comey, the former fbi director who was fired by trump had said and had written at the time. He also took contemporaneous notes about his interactions with the president. So what mccabes notes could be, they could corroborate what comey had already said. Its been a busy weekend on the russia front for a number of reasons. Andrew mccabe was days away from retiring from the department of justice for receiving his full pension. He was actually fired on friday night just, you know, really hours before he could have received that full pension. Now the department of justice says that was because of i had conduct around investigations, especially one around the Clinton Foundation actually. But mccabe and others have said that his firing is nothing more than another attack and war on this Mueller Probe. President trump actually weighed in and tweeted about the Mueller Probe and has continued to fume about it. I want to read to you exactly what he said in a tweet yesterday. The Mueller Probe should never have been started and that there was no collusion and there was no crime. It was based on fraudulent activities and a fake dossier paid for by crooked hillary and the d in, c and improperly used in fisa court for surveillance of my campaign witch hunt. Hes obviously made that case a number of times. Hes also getting a little bit of backup from one of his outside lawyers john dowd. John dowd actually said in response to the decision to fire mccabe, i pray that acting attorney general rosenstein will follow the brilliant example of attorney general Jeff Sessions and bring an end to alleged russia collusion investigation. All of this kind of contributes to the fact that it doesnt look like the russia probe is going to end anytime soon and that may make President Trump even more angry. Certainly not going to end anytime soon according to these indicators. Thank you so much. Thank you. So joining me now, commentary writer and cnn political analyst, thank you both for being here. We appreciate. first and foremost, we know that mccabe told cnn he had four interactions with President Trump last may. While he was acting fib director, three of fem e them were in person, one of them was via phone call. How much credence do these memos hold, julian . Well, i think they will hold a lot of creed yaps fdence for are not simply listening to President Trump. I think like the comey memo these could provide a window into the thinking of the president of the United States and into the question of whether there was an attempt to obstruct. And i think mccabe brings with him a certain amount of credibility to the table that obviously Trump Supporters wont agree with. But i did think those memos can be damaging. Er is wrat do you agree tha these memos like comeys memos can give of that much wait to this investigation . That depends. There are some things with respect to mckayes firing that are in question. We dont have Public Access to any of the documents relating to whether mccabe misled investigators or he lacked candor when he was speaking to investigators. And whether that constitutes a fireable offense. Of course if he did commit any of those things and he was in, you know, obviously within the range of being fired, then probably you can make the justification that he should be fired. But with respect to the memos, you know, its possible whether, you know, it be about him voting for whoever in the 2016 election whether it be for trump or hillary clinton, that conversation that he had that was reported on in january, obviously thats of concern with respect to the investigation. But its also interesting that the responses that were seeing from the Intelligence Community to trump, its almost a response being its basically washington speak for trump is about to catch this fade. By the time the tweet that dan read as well as the statement from john dowd came out, this sent a lot of lawmakers into some sort of a frantic spin here. I want to read to you what shum her to say. He said mr. Dowds comments are another indication that the first instinct of the president and his legal team is not to cooperate with special counsel mueller but to undermine him in every turn. President and his legal team must not steak any steps to curtail or interfere with or there will be severe consequences from both democrats and republicans. What could those severe consequences be . What are their options . Well julian. The big option obviously for law make sers not on the table right now, some kind of impeachment process. The major option on the table is to actually conduct a congressional investigation which has not happened. Its been killed by the same kind of partisan attacks youve had from the administration on the investigation. Thats what congress has done with their irancontra, watergate, set up a real joint committee and conduct a full investigation bringing witnesses that the public can see. So this isnt all done behind closed doors. Those are very effective and they gr for the democratic process. Thats really what we still need congress to step up and do. Well, we heard from senator mark warner as well, advice chairman of the Senate Intel Committee and he said every member of Congress Republican and democrat needs to speak up in defense of the special counsel now. Do you expect that we will have republicans standing up . Yes, absolutely. I think there are a anybody of republicans currently serving in congress who will speak out in support of special counsel mueller who believe that this investigation should continue because in the interest of transparency and seeing the investigation go entirely through who are still in Law Enforcement and agencies like the fbi would want that to happen because, of course, you dont goowant to go against thei in certain cases like trump is doing because that makes public enemy number one. And to group yourself in with trump is probably bad for republicans in the future. There are political reasons but there are other reasons such as actual justice that were trying to make sure that President Trump and his associates as well as those within the Trump Campaign had nothing to do with colluding with the russians. But, julian, President Trump is not the president , the kind of president that the United States has known up to this point. I mean, he is tweeting that this probe should have never been started, that there was no collusion. With that said, do you get the feeling or the sense that anybody is talking to President Trump and trying to direct him not to do this because does he care . Does the president care that if he would try to squash this this Mueller Investigation that he would he would look guilty to some degree . Well, i think he probably would disagree with that assessment. I think the president , in my opinion, knows what hes doing and hes conducting a fullscale assault on the investigation. Never really caring about firing Robert Mueller so much as discrediting him in the public mind so that no one in congress will actually do anything about this. Im sure there are lawyers who might say stop tweeting because every tweet puts you in more jeopardy or accelerates the investigation. But i think he feels that this platform, twitter, parts of the media, conservative media, those are his best tools to making sure that nothing ever comes of this regardless of the fact many guilty pleas, indictments, and evidence this is not simply all fake news. Right. We appreciate you both being here, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And today on state of the union with jake tapper, senator jeff flake, senator Lindsey Graham and rand paul all on that show. The state of the union with jake tapper today, 9 00 a. M. Eastern only on cnn. 18 years as russias president and very likely counting are Vladimir Putin support for reelection right now and hes pretty safe bet to win. Voting happening at this moment. Were going to take you live to russia in a moment. Facebook under fire and facing the pro prospect of tighter regulation as critics call on it to take responsibility in its role in the outcome of the 2016 election. And could be drug dealers soon face the Death Penalty . And who qualifies as a drug dealer . President trump is report lid about to lay out his longawaited plan and he says it will solve the Opioid Crisis. E about to lay out his longawaited plan and he says it will solve the Opioid Crisis. D about to lay out his longawaited plan and he says it will solve the Opioid Crisis. L d about to lay out his longawaited plan and he says it will solve the Opioid Crisis. Y lid about to lay out his longawaited plan and he says it will solve the Opioid Crisis. Lid about to lay out his longawaited plan and he says it will solve the Opioid Crisis. Id about to lay out his longawaited plan and he says it will solve the Opioid Crisis. 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Well, you know, as you as you sit there with your coffee this morning, voting in the russi russian. Today, seven candidates are running against putin but for voters in russia there is really one serious contender. Cnns Matthew Chance is live at a polling place there in moscow. Matthew, the result of this is a foregone conclusion. Yeah. Victor, its not exactly a nailbiter here in russia. As you rightly say, there are eight candidates contesting this election. There is only one real contender. Its a onehorse race as my camera man pointed out earlier. You can see the veterans about voter apathy has disappeared. Kremlin Vladimir Putin came out on Russian Television a couple of days ago to appeal to russians to get their voices heard and seems they are responding as we got from this one voting station in the capital of moscow. A look at the eight candidates here with their biographical details and Financial Information as well. Vladimir putin in the middle and it says underneath that he has 13 Bank Accounts with a total of 240,000 and he also has some apartments and has three russian cars. The public this is the public image that Vladimir Putin likes to present, that he is man of the people, that he isnt, you know, corrupt in any way. He doesnt have these billions of dollars that his critics accuse him of having. You know, that kind of sells well to the russian public, because despite all of the conflicts that Vladimir Putin has got russia into with the west and with the United States, that does not appear to have dented his popularity amongst most russians at all. Matthew chance, thank you so much, reporting live from moscow. Can you imagine having all of the Financial Information for a candidate in the United States . Well, in the United States, that would be illuminaive. Very nice word. Joining us is a author of the red web, he is also a watchdog of the russias secret service activities. Andre, good morning to you. Thank you for being here. I want to ask you i know youre no longer in russia but given what has happened this week in the uk, with the nerve agent attacks, do you have any concerns for your safety . Well, we know that for years, for 18 years, putin in power, we had lots of people who and something happened to them. People have been killed. We have spies killed. Every time kremlin line of defense was to say that it was kind of set up to undermine putin, but while all of these people are gone and putin is still in power and the result of this election is quite predictable. Matthew chance just mentioned that the concerns of apathy have dissipated. We know the kremlin went on this Public Relations campaign to try to excite people to get out to vote and according to those, i guess, antidotes we are seeing here, it worked. But what was the source of apathy leading into these final days and weeks . You can say is try to count how all you will be as the day he finally is out. And people account how much is spent under putin and, for instance, for me, its about 40 of my life. Some people under putin knew nothing about putin and people are quite tired of him. The only thing here you can use to counter this villain is to try to escalate, to mobilize people around your leader because when you are at war, you cannot question your commander in chief and that is exactly what putin is trying to do right now. In war with . At war with the west right now. Its all about the west. So when we were looking at all of those people were who showing up to the polls, i think people immediately say, i know what its like here in the u. S. To go to the polls. They there much like us probably want to know their vote counts. Do they believe it counts . Matthew that i had this is essentially an election of technicality. Yes, absolutely. At the same time, crazy conspiracy disseminated that we can expect some sort of attack from the United States, we can expect some attacks on the russian election, thats why you need to go and support your leader. At the same time, as everybody understands as a result results are quite predictable, lots of people feel we need to vote right now to support a leader and to help to protect the country. You mentioned that this war with the west, that at least president putin is attempt to go use to excite people but to what degree is this conflict that we are seeing with the u. S. And after this nerve agent attack in the uk with the british, what to what degree is that fueling the population in russia today . Actually, Vladimir Putin is extremely good at skillful and exploitive confrontation to mobilize people, and he used it many times when there was a war with georgia, when he got his conflict with ukraine. Every time it helped him to mobilize people of support. That is the message right now after the poisonings. The idea we are such a powerful country, the rest of the world tries to undermine us and they try to use tricks like we have like poison of Double Agents to undermine the russians stability and popularity of the russian leader. Andre, we appreciate your insight. Thank you for taking the time to be with us. Thank you. Coming up, facebook has suspended a data firm with ties to the Trump Campaign. This stems from those personality quizzes youve taken on facebook. One time or another. We will explain everything. President trump finalizes his plans. We will talk about the implications of that stay close. Ways to lose stubborn belly fat. The roasted core wrap. 3, 2, 1. Not cool. Freezing away fat cells with coolsculpting . Now thats cool coolsculpting safely freezes and removes fat cells with little or no downtime. And no surgery. Results and Patient Experience may vary. 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Brian, i think we first need you to kind of explain what the relationships are here, because a lot of nuances. Yes. This is a story on the front page of the morning paper. It says something to the effect of a firm that helped the Trump Campaign exploited facebook data. What does that mean . It starts well before President Trump entered the race in 2015. There was a researcher, a professor who went ahead and harvested facebook profiles. A couple hundred thousand peoples data was taken by this personality quiz you could fill out. Re remember seeing these on facebook a few years ago . You would have to fill on you a few questions and tell you more about yourself. One of the quizzes was a way to get data from users. Not just your own data but your friends data as well. Ls all of a sudden this professor had 50 million facebook profiles and he shared was information with cambridge. It details voters to know what kind of ads and messages are going to appeal to those voters and cause them to turn out to the polls. So cambridge analit ka was contracted by the Trump Campaign in 2015. This is a matter of debate now. Some say it was critical to President Trumps election victor and others say not. That is part of the debate. The big news now is facebook has spanneded Cambridge Analytica for different reasons. And perhaps they didnt delete the data. A couple of big issues are clear. One is that for ordinary users of facebook, sometimes we dont know how our data, how our profiles and how our information is used by other companies and i think a wakeup call about that. Also some issues involving Campaign Finance relations and whether Cambridge Analytica. Its once again a remaininder w facebook. They are talking about russia propaganda on the platform and now front page scandal this time involving the data that we all voluntarily hand over to the site that ends up in the hands of other people. It comes to you, you think its fun. You think its something that, hey, lets learn more about you and really at the end of the day yeah. So with that said, is there any repercussion for facebook . We have seen the company tightening its policies for a number of years. These quizzes that were popular three years ago, you dont see them on facebook as often because some of the rules and policies have gotten more restrictive. The Company Knows it needs to do better. We have heard this from time and time about facebook, they keep saying they know they need to live up to their responsibilities. Here is part of the statement from facebook responding to this. Its at accountable and responsible for any unlawful behavior. Here is the thing. I main thing here facebook is free. Its on all of our phones and anyone can sign up for free. If something is free, it means you are the product. It means that facebook is selling your information, your identity, access to you to advertisers and to other thirdparties. Even though the company says its trying to be very responsible and take this very seriously, a case where data was used improperly, perhaps to target voters in the election and we are going to see more and more of these cases in the future. Its a situation that may call out for government regulation or at least more awareness on the part of users. A heck of a reminder to all of us what you want to post and what you do not and what you engage it when youre there. If its free, you are the product. That was great and very profound, actually brian stelter, man with some wisdom there. Thank you so much. Thank you. Sure. Still to come, there was so much that happened this weekend with the white house and the president , but we are looking ahead to next week. 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The firing of former fbi director Andrew Mccabe is giving people day jeja vu. The entire White House Communications apparatus all the way up to the Vice President mike pence said the firing was based on the recommendation of Deputy Attorney general rod rosenstein. Then the president came out and told everyone his truth. Let me be very clear that the president s decision to accept the recommendation of the Deputy Attorney general and the attorney general to remove director comey as the head of the fbi was based solely and exclusively on his commitment to the best interests of the American People and to ensuring that the fbi has the trust and confidence of the people of this nation. He made a recommendation but regardless of recommendation, i was going to fire comey knowing there was no good time to do it. In fact, when i decided to just do it, i said to myself, i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a madeup story. Now fast forward to Andrew Mccabes firing. Attorney general Jeff Sessions said it was an extensive and fair investigation writing this as well. Hours president reintroduced the legal justification about mcc e mccabes wife and her run for the senate in virginia. He tweeted this. Terry mcauliffe is a former attorney general there. We are trying to get cnn commentator andre bauer with us. Let me start with you. Did the president do it again when everyone around him, the white house, the doj says, here is the official reason and then the president comes along and says, no, this is really why and this is the political justification. Oh, absolutely. It gets worse and worse. Let me begin by giving a different answer to the question that christi raised. I believe the probability he fires mueller the next month or two, possibly this week, is about 90 to 95 and that will create the worst constitutional crisis and crisis in american democracy since the civil war. What is that based on . I think that he is, obviously, running out of control, afraid of the investigation. I think the way he repeatedly attacks the fbi, the way that he repeatedly attacks the Mueller Investigation, the comments that his lawyer made profoundly unwisely i believe represents the president s views which he stated the first time before he denied it, thats why. I think its coming. And here is the option that i predict will happen. You heard it first on cnn today. Okay . If if he fires mueller, which i believe he wants to do and will try to do soon, the option then is that the house and the senate, by an overwhelming veto can pass a law that becomes law whether the president sinds it or not that will reinstate mueller as a prosecutor and special counsel so he cannot be fired. That is the option. If republicans, who i predict will support that. If they dont, the republicans could lose a hundred seats in the midterm elections and what happened in pennsylvania will look like a dinner party for the Republican Party compared to what happens. I think for that reason they will do that. Let me bring in andre. He is with us. I dont know how much you heard. Brent believes that based on the environment, based on what we heard from the president s attorney john dowd preying that essentially mueller will be fired or the Mueller Probe will be ended that indeed is happening this week. What your view . I dont believe that is going to happen. I dont see the temperature in washington to do that. I would like it to be brought to conclusion but i would like it to be done in a manner that looks proper to the american public. To abruptly stop i dont think that is right. I think he needs to finish his investigation opinion i thi investigation. I think its drawn out a long time but i dont want the and public to think that he didnt exceed the information he tried to obtain. The white house, according to politico, is finalizing this plan now to try to solve the Opioid Crisis in america. And the president could unveil is as soon as monday when he heads to new hampshire, which we know is struggling with this challenge. And it includes, according to politico, the Death Penalty for drug dealers. Your view on that, brent. I think its a cheap, easy, and wrong answer. We will see what the full policy is. Im not going to support or oppose a policy before its been announced, but you dont solve problems by talking about the Death Penalty. So far, the president s response to opioid has been far less than it should have been and far less than his own task led by governor Chris Christie recommended. To substitute for a policy, talk about the kind of Death Penalty that has been practiced in dictatorial countries some of whom the president has supported or praised is the wrong answer. You dont do it by threatening to kill people. You do it by dealing with the problem. The supply side and demand side of this issue. Talk about a capital punishment, talk about the Death Penalty, let the dictatorships think that way. We, in the United States, dont. We dont run around talking who we will kill and we dont praise foreign dictators and do nothing when russia is attacking america or go into korea war and i got to keep us on focus, brent. Those are pretty important issues we could have a war, victor. I understand they are important issues but we have got this issue to talk about in this segment. Andre, i need you to weigh in on this. Do you believe, do you support a plan that would include the Death Penalty for drug dealers . And who qualified as a drug dealer . Are we talking about the street dealers or are we talking about the executives at the companies that produce these drugs, the distributors that send them into these communities . Are they eligible for that as well or should they be . Well, the way i understand it is the Death Penalty would only come if someone died while using them. I think its a strong deterrent to try to encourage people not to participate in this type of activity. Look. If its a misdemeanor or fine most people wont worry about the punishment. They will continue to do it. When you make crime a severe penalty like killing somebody, you think you may get the Death Penalty yourself, its a deterrent. However, there is a this is a very complex plan. There is funding in here. Look. He is making an effort. When youre president of the United States you lay out a plan and we have the luxury of having Congress Debate this plan. I was a member of the executive and Administrative Branch and many times the Administrative Branch proposed things when i was at the executive branch and a potential to start a discussion. We are starting that discussion. I understand. Andre, who qualifies as a drug dealer . Do the distributors who pump the pain clinics in small communities full of pills do they count as a drug dealer . And if someone dies from that clinic, how far up the chain does this penalty go . I think this template starts the discussion. It didnt get into the specifics of how deep someone would be prosecuted for distribution of this drug. I think it was an overall to try to get the message out there, we are coming out with a clear template of what we want to talk about. It didnt specifically say who would be charged with murder if, in fact, that individual, in some way was the chain of giving out. We still have to actually wait for the president , wait for the white house to propose this. The reporting out from politico that it will include the Death Penalty for drug dealers. Let me get to one more thing happening on tuesday. First, i want to start with a list. Lets put the list on the screen. This is a list of the president s insults since he toot oath of office. On tuesday, the first lady is going to host Tech Companies to talk about cyber bullying. Should the president attend . Andre . I didnt know the president knew me that well when he described all of those different words about me, victor. Look. The president should not approach some of the things i would have but he has been effective a lot of times in identifying people. If you dont believe it we know that a u. S. Senator used before you go down that road, is it not hypocritical for the white house to host an event about cyberbullying when the president of the United States used two dozen insults on twitter . Well, the first lady has chosen this, not the president , himself. Clearly, the president it would be nice if sometimes he throttled back a little bit. Brent . I think it is sta staggering that the president of the United States, any president could spend his time dishing out third grade insults and dishing out name calling and trivia and nonsense and garbage and i will add, speaking falsely, lying, repeatedly, in record numbers of falsehoods. That is a bad day for america and im sorry, i dont regard it as partisan. I think a lot of republicans who privately, possibly, including andre, who agree with what i just said. Its a disgrace to the white house, all of it. We are not a high school. We are not a third grade. He is the president of the United States and the commander in chief. We are being attacked by a foreign country and in danger of war in korea and running around acting like a 2yearold insulting and berating. Its unacceptable for any president of the United States. 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