With Victor Blackwell and christie paul. Always so grateful to have your company. Well get to politics but we do have breaking news. Six Police Officers have been shot in three separate incidents. Two in florida, one in pennsylvania. In kissimmee, florida, one officer is dead. A second is in Critical Condition. This is a possible ambush according to police. A third incident also in pennsylvania. State troopers were shot there. Cnn correspondent is with us now. Dan, tell us more about what were learning about these incidents and not related, we wouldnt think but something unusual for us to be reporting overnight. We know that theres three that happened. Two in florida and one in pennsylvania. One of them just outside orlando in kissimmee. Two officers responded to a 911 call in what may have been an ambush situation. The officers werent able to return fire. One of the officers died and the other is critically injured. Heres what the police there are saying. It breaks my heart to have to come speak to you tonight about another senseless tragedy, one thats resulted in the death of one of our Police Officers, and the a grave critical situation of another. This evening sergeant sam howard, a tenyear veteran of the Police Department and officer matthew baxter, a threeyear veteran Police Arrested three people following that shooting and theyre searching for a fourth person. And in jacksonville, florida, two officers were shot when they responded to an attempted suicide call when they encountered a man with a high powered rifle. The officers were hit and injured. The suspect also was shot and died after being taken to a local hospital. The police in jacksonville had this to say. Any time that an officer is injured in the line of duty, its tough and this case is even even tougher. I mean, these were serious injuries and these were people that we work with day in, day out and they are sworn they have a commitment to the community and tonight, they held fast to that commitment and like i said, they knew as they were approaching that house the seriousness of this and didnt flinch. And thats just florida. And then in pennsylvania another Police Shooting in south western p. A. In fair chance just a bit south of pittsburgh. Two state troopers shot there last night as well near a grocery store. Their conditions are unknown but the officers were taken to the hospital and President Trump and rick scott, theyre reacting to the Florida Shooting on twitter. The president saying quote, my thoughts and prayers are with the Kissimmee Police and loved ones and Florida Governor saying were heart broken to hear the loss of matthew baxter, praying for a quick recovery for the officer in Critical Condition and they havent had the chance to respond yet to the other shootings that have happened. All right. Thank you so much for walking us through that. You got it. All right. To politics now, fired white house steve bannon back at his old stomping grounds this morning. He says hes dusting off what he says his weapons and is going to war for President Trump. The latest high profile departure from the white house and this morning add carl icon to the list. He was the special advisor on Regulatory Reform but hes stepping down because he didnt want them bickering about his role to cloud the administration. And Steve Mnuchins and good morning to you and the departure of a chief strategist may not necessarily equal a change in strategy. Thats exactly right. Thats the big question is what impact will Steve Bannons departure have on the functioning of the white house and the policy coming out of the white house . When it comes to functioning we could see a more efficient, perhaps a more efficient west wing. This is one of the key goals of john kelly who came in to impose a sense of order on a rather chaotic staffing situation in the west wing, but Steve Bannons departure doesnt change the president. So much has been made of this chief strategist role. Hes been painted as this sort of genius master mind who helped save the campaign late in the game. Remember he didnt join the campaign until around this time last year. And so this idea that maybe steve bannon was influencing the president s world view when it comes to some of these nationalists and populist issues isnt exactly accurate. The fact is they had a kind of mind meld but we saw the president himself come out at his announcement bashing mexican immigrants and talking about later on talking about a muslim ban all before steve bannon was really part of the team. The big question that a lot of folks are asking is what kind of impact will steve bannon have outside of the white house . We know he came from brietbart news. Were told he led the editorial pleading last night and he has said that he wants to go to war on behalf of the president , on behalf of those sort of nationalist populist policies that steve bannon himself has pushed but this could also mean that he has indicated that brietbart could go to war with some of Steve Bannons professed enemies in the west wing like Economic Advisor cohen and as you mentioned victor, this is just the latest of several recent departures. I believe we had that fascinating picture of various parts of the president s inner circle who have left from formal National Security advisor Michael Flynn after just 20 days on the job and sean spicer, reince priebus, who was the chief of staff both leaving in july. Now steve bannon departing in august. The hope is certainly among john kelly and people who want to see the west wing function better is that this will lead to a better functioning west wing. All right. Thank you so much. Well, hundreds of neo nazis expected to rally in berlin, germany today. Theyll be met by hundreds of counter protesters who are also planning to demonstrate. The rally is marking the anniversary of the death of rudolph hess, adolph hitlers deputy who killed himself 30 years ago. Youre looking at live pictures of some of the people involved in that rally. Well continue to watch it for you. And so was the interview even a factor considering that the reporting is this has been in the works for some time . Reaction for the man who spoke with bannon days before he was out of the white house. And whats happening in boston this morning. Theyre getting ready for a free speech rally today. Hundreds of extra police are out trying to make sure that what happens in boston is very different than what happened last week in charlottesville. For your Retirement Plan . S start here. Or here. Even here. And definitely here. At fidelity, were available 24 7 to make Retirement Planning simpler. We let you know where you stand, so when it comes to your Retirement Plan, youll always be absolutely. Clear. Time to think of your future its your retirement. Know where you stand. Time to think of your future hey, is this our turn . Honey. Our turn . Yeah, we go left right here. woman vo Great Adventures are still out there. Well find them in our subaru outback. avo love. Its what makes a subaru, a subaru. Get 0 apr financing for 63 months on all new 2017 outbacks. Ends august 31. 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Flonase changes everything. The german magazine has become the latest publication now to link the president to the kkk. Look at its cover. The title in english translates to the true face of donald trump. The magazine calls the president a racist and a hate preacher. This is the fourth publication to link the president to White Supremacy. The new yorker, time, all published covers with a similar theme this week. Well continue this conversation with eugene scott and journalist robert kuttner. Robert, i do want to start with you. You had the possibly last interview with steve bannon as he was chief strategist on tuesday and i understand you had some questions about whether you believe he was actually fired on august 7th. What is your trepidation in believing that . Well, i trust the New York Times reporting on this. Megan is a traffic reporter as you know and if she says he submitted a letter of resignation on august 7 im sure thats true and then you wonder whether hes delusional because he telephones me two weeks later and invites me to come to the white house, first he wanted me to come to the white house immediately. Then he wanted me to come to the white house after labor day and we had a whole conversation whose premise was that bannon is increasingly in charge, that hes trying to get control of trade policy wants my advice, treating me like im an old soul mate because i have also criticized trade policy even though i agree with steve bannon on virtually nothing else. So either they asked for his resignation for keeping him on Good Behavior or they decided that he would leave at an appropriate time, date to be determined but both things cant be true. On the one hand, he resigned on or submitted a letter of resignation on august 7th and secondly assumed hes going to be charged after labor day and several other contradictory things in that conversation. Such as . Well, obviously, hes trying to have it both ways on White Nationalism and racism. So after we talked about trade, i moved the conversation in the direction of how come you have to get in bed with neo nazis in order to have a tougher trade policy with china . The two things dont necessarily go together and he began by saying you know, these people are a bunch of cooks and theyre fringe people and we dont take it that seriously and then he couldnt resist himself. He moved the conversation in the direction of how clever he was by by turning these people into kind of a group of shock troops for the Trump Administration on behalf of economic nationalism and of course that bleeds over into White National licisnationalism. So heres the takeaway it seems to me. He is obviously the architect of this policy of using that base as shock troops and stoking up that base. He views trump as a means to an end. The end is White Nationalism and economic nationalism and hes happy to do it at the white house if that works and if its more convenient for him to do it back at brietbart thats good too. I think the balancing act that bannon faces that could backfire, the same way his conversation with me backfired is on the one hand you have brietbart kicking trump for being a sellout. On the other hand you have bannon back as chairman of brietbart posing as the guy whos going to save trump from his enemies and save trump from himself and its awfully hard to see how he pulls that act off. I mean, clearly he would like to continue to be part of trumps kitchen cabinet. Trump is famous for calling people in the middle of the night. Im sure bannon hopes he and trump will continue to strategize. He can do this more candidly when hes not under the discipline of john kelly, but how far can brietbart go in kicking trump for being a closet democrat or for abandoning the agenda. I want to get to eugene here. So he brings up a good point. Is there any sense of whether bannon may be stronger outside the white house than he was in . Well, absolutely. We recall those of us covering the campaign in these early months of the administration, steve bannon and people like him constantly ran into roadblocks with more Establishment Republicans in the white house or republicans that they just didnt think were actually republicans or even people that they call democrats and so there wasnt just the trump train in the white house. There was the bannon train. What we know at brietbart is everyone is on the bannon train and so the reality is that he will likely be able to be more aggressive and move more quickly in putting forward his ideas and bringing them to National Attention outside of the white house than he perhaps was working in the oval office. I want to get your reaction to a statement that were getting from the white house in the last few minutes regarding the Kennedy Center honors. This honors the artists that help shape cultural life in the United States and heres what were hearing today from the white house. They say the president and first lady have decided not to participate in this years activities to allow the honoree s to participate. Your reaction to this news that the first lady and the president will not be participating in the awards this year . I think this to me is a continuation of people realizing that being closely affiliated with this white house is not only bad for business, but its a risky move for them on what they want out of their longterm careers. Weve seen people step down and be criticized because they were being viewed of being supportive of this president and his agenda and i think whats really interesting is whether or not the president and his team will take note of that and do any type of pivoting as they realize that their significant pockets of america that they are losing when they lose artists, business communities and other individuals. Did you get any sense from steve bannon when you talked to him about how powerful Jared Kushner is in the white house . No. It didnt come up. I mean, he at least even though he thought he might have been not talking for quotation even though he never said that, i think even bannon is not so reckless as to trash Jared Kushner to a journalist. I want to make one other point. Ultimately what did end steve bannon was that he was getting too much visibility and one thing that infuriates donald trump, we know this time and time again is to be upstaged by his staff. He will not put up with that and so the really intriguing question is, if bannon thinks hes bigger than trump and his movement is bigger than trump and brietbart is bigger than trump, thats going to get under trumps skin and that raises the other intriguing question of whether which direction that pushes trump in. Does it push trump in the direction of continuing to double down on the White Nationalist, neo Nazi Alliance which is the direction hes been going since charlottesville or does he get tired of this and does he decide that his future lies with an alliance with ordinary far right people, namely the republican party. And with all these people have that left thus far, a lot of viewers wondering what is the president capable of getting done. Is he too isolated to implement his policies . We appreciate both of your voices here. Thank you. Be sure to watch on monday night for a cnn special event after the senate failed to pass a bill on health care, what will paul ryan say as he faces his wisconsin voters . Dont miss our live town hall monday night only on cnn. It was just about this time last week, a couple hours, give or take, that we were watching what was happening in charlottesville start to unfold. Boston is now the city that is wondering what will happen during a free speech rally there in just a few hours. Authorities concerned that White Supremacists and count ere protesters could clash again. And well take you to spain after the break. It starts a chain reaction. Thats heard throughout the connected business world. At t Network Security helps protect business, from the largest Financial Markets to the smallest transactions, by sensing cyberattacks in near real time and automatically deploying countermeasures. 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Good morning to you. In the wake of the violence in charlottesville a week ago today there are serious concerns about boston and what will happen there. Thats where our so will have call socalled, we shouldnt say socalled. A free speech rally. And what are the preparations there after the country watched what happened in charlottesville . Reporter certainly a higher level of security. Thats what were seeing right now. Thats what were seeing what the boston globe describes its. The calm before the rally but that is expected to change in a few hours as up to 100 demonstrators are expected to make their way here for this socalled free speech rally. Organizers have invited donald Trump Supporters and anyone who enjoys the freedom of speech. The concern is that could be seen as an open invitation for extremist groups, neo nazi groups for example. So as a result local officials are fairly concerned. In fact, they are recommending that parents not bring their children anywhere near Boston Common which is a place that is bustling for Family Activity on a saturday afternoon. Today though a very different activity that has officials concerned. I dont want them here. Let me be clear, i do not want them here. If i could have not had them here without a permit i would not have given them a permit. We dont need that type of rhetoric going on in Boston Common. Weve come too far. There is a counterprotest thats also being organized and thats expected to be a little larger. That group is expected to march about two miles to this location and thats where the concern is for authorities. Theyre going to make sure that both sides dont necessarily mix here and stay on opposite ends so as to not create an intense situation. As for what authorities are doing to try to make everything safe here, you may be able to make out those concrete barriers. Those are in place to try to keep any vehicles from making their way into the crowd, obviously something we saw a week ago today. People here, officials here, the city of boston hoping to prevent anything like that from happening, but as we heard from the mayor, they are looking forward to this thing being done with. Of course this is not what they would like to see on a sword afternoon here in the heart of the city. What time is this scheduled to start . Reporter things are expected to kick off about noon. This is when the organizers are expected to begin this ernt. Thats what the permit states. They only have two hours to hold their demonstration and thats when we expect those counterprotesters to arrive but at this point nobody has shown up, at least not quite yet but it is early. We do remember the violence started in the 10 00 hour so we will watch that certainly. Thanks so much. And well show you what were seeing in berlin, germany, neo nazis rallying there. Here are live pictures for you. Theyre marking the anniversary of lirudolph hess. So far based on what we can see there, it looks like things are peaceful. A few moments ago we did see a couple of bus loads of Police Officers arriving at this protest here, so they too are well armed, so to speak, with police presence. Were going to keep an eye on the developments throughout the morning for you as well. Symbols of the confederacy obviously dividing americans today and should cities across the country ban these monuments honoring con federal generals . Well hear voices from opposing sides of the debate. And an american couple on their honeymoon and their family is talking about what happened. They were supposed to come back this sunday, so just a few days from ending their vacation, their lovely honeymoon vacation. Here aes a look at this weeks mortgage rates. Mawhen it comes to helping. 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Let me start with you and some notes that you said to my executive producer in which you said, no one who is living today was ever held in slavery just like no one alive today is a slave owner this is not about hurt feelings, you put in quotes, this is about power and politics. Explain. Well, when i look at the United States of america im clearly an immigrant as your viewers can tell from my accent. I believe this is the least multiracial country in the world. I think this is the best country in the world for any person to live and that includes a black person. I think this is the most color Blind Society that exists and i dont see any reason for all of what we are seeing and you spoke about in your introduction just moments ago. Okay. Rashad . You know, these are celebrations. These statues are celebrations. They are not historical monuments. They were actually most of these statues were put in place during the jim crow era. The statues are actually in front of courthouses, places where people are expected to go and get justice. These statues dont show the rapes, the beatings, the mutilations, the selling off of children from their parents, the stealing of peoples culture and language and dignity, the years and hundreds of years of free labor that black people gave to this country. These statues were put in place to send a powerful message to black people in particular about their role and value in our society and its time for them to be pulled down so we can move forward in a country. When you go to germany you do not see memorials to hitler. You do not see memorials to people who took up arms in service of destroying culture, of putting people in their place, of killing individuals, and so we are calling on governments around the country to take them down, to take down these statues and to help us move forward together. So let me ask you, you say this is the most color Blind Society that youve seen in the world. Im paraphrasing you here, obviously. These monomouments to exalt leas of the government that was created, the confederacy on the premise of White Supremacy and to perpetuate slavely. Why not remove them . Im here to tell you that the monuments are part of our culture and part of our heritage. You dont see greeks tearing down theirs, and the ideologies that have no room here in the United States of america but my simple question for rashad would be where were you in 2011 . What was wrong with this statue in 2007 . This is nothing more than an astro Turf Campaign that is seeking to divide our nation and i dont think its doing anything but weakening and hurting the greatest country in the history of the world. Rashad . You know, the beauty about this country is that weve been able to over decades and years continuing to push for progress, to build a more Perfect Union when all of us are being able to be heard, counted invisible and we have a long way to go and so what i will say to nick is that i was fighting for civil rights back in 2011 and back in 2007. I was fighting to remove statues in different places around this country and i say to the people who are watching, should our elders who had to sit in the back of the buses still continue to have to see these statues . Should we have to send our children to schools named after confederate generals even in places like california which wasnt even a state at the time, send our kids to schools named after con fed rats generals who made it punishable by death to make it able for African Americans to read and this is not just some historical conversation and absolutely, this is about power. Its about the message that is sent to black people when they walk into courthouses and expect justice and theres a confederate symbol out front, a symbol who fought to keep black people in chains. When you are walking inside a building to pay your taxes, when you are walking into buildings across this country that are supposed to be about fairness and equality. We need to take these down and people of all races should be standing with us. Let me get you to respond to something, because the monument in charlottesville around which on friday night many of those nazis and White Supremacists held their torches is of robert e. Lee. Confederate general and he wrote this in 1869. I think it wise not to keep open the war but to follow those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil striech. To commit to the oblivion of the feelings of strife. Was slavery an awful, terrible sinful you keep using this word culture cl i dont know if you know it or not if youll continue for a moment. Ill give you an opportunity but i want to educate you. When you use the word culture. Really . Yes. That is perceived by some people as western culture, white culture specifically and this the confederacy was to divide this country. Youve written about loving america, loving the union, loving the constitution, loving the United States, the confederacy took up arms against the country to divide it, to perpetuate slavery. How can you argue well, victor, let me educate you somewhat. Go ahead. Many countries had slavery but there was only one that tore itself apart. Only one that went brother against brother over their own slaves and that was the United States because it realized it realized the sinful awful darkness of slavery. Thats not why. Thats not true. Thats actually not true. Its unfortunate that youre trying to rewrite history on tv this morning. Im not rewriting history. Excuse me sir, its early but you will not do that. You will not rewrite the brutal carnage of slavery and then the history of jim crowe in the country after wards. The pieces after reconstruction when black people were put in their places. I am the grandson of a sharecropper who was denied an education. Im an american american. I was raised in this country. Are you are trying to destroy the United States. Hold on, rashad. My people have made this country better and we will continue to fight to make this country better. My people came from another country. Can i get in here . I want to get nick back in here because we have time constraints. What i will say is the free labor that black people have given to this country and the fact that we have to walk into courtrooms and schools, the buildings that are supposed to be for all of us that have symbols about our the symbol to say you are being put in your place is beyond the peril. Nick, go ahead. This is what chairman did during the culture revolution in digging up ancient graves. Weve seen this with the soviets when they sacked orthodox churches and okay. Nick, youre not going to equate the statues of confederate generals with the coliseum with towers and i am. Ill tell you what im going to do. Youre not going to do that. Im going to explain to you. No, were not going through any more explanations, nick. It seems as if you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the confederacy and what they stood for. When you make these comparisons between confederate generals. You are living in the best country in the world. 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A cell made up of 12 members was involved in this barcelona terror attack. In the meantime, a massive manhunt is under way this morning for more systems. Faye a look at the men on your screen there. Cnn International Correspondent is live in spain with more details about that investigation. And also, i understand three controlled explosions right in the area where you have been this morning. Reporter yes. Victor, we have seen about three controlled explosions in the last few hours. In fact, about a minute or so before you came to me i heard another controlled explosion. Im just going to move out of the way so people get a sense of what were looking at. So the house where the cell of 12 where they were operating from is just over this yellow ambulance to the right of your screen, just past the olive groves. Youre seeing police, red cross, ambulances. But youre also seeing huge tractors and huge diggers coming in. Local officials basically telling me the diggers have had to come in because another one was completely destroyed because as they were digging out, they have found more and more explosives. What we know now from a source close to the investigation basically telling cnn they have found aspects and traces of tatp, highly explosive and also just gives you a sense of the damage they could have done, how deadly or how bloody it could have been had they gone ahead, had they not made a mistake in the making of this bomb and really that really stopped them in their tracks. But police focusing their investigation right here, and this is what theyre looking at as they go through every single part and are you able of this house. Christi, victor. All right. We appreciate it so much. Thank you. Well, the debate to remove confederate monuments has made its way to the gs governors race. When you think of saving money, what comes to mind . Your next getaway . Connecting with family and friends . 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