Their preinauguration discussions according to u. S. Officials. Cnn previously reported the two men met as part of an effort to create a back channel to russian president vladimir putin. The white house did not comment on the report. These revelations come as the fbi probe of russian interference in the 2016 president ial election includes looking at kushner. The fbi is drilling down on kushners multiple roles in the Trump Campaign and postelection transition. Key among them the Trump Campaigns data and analytics operation. Ive heard and its been reported that part of the misinformation, Disinformation Campaign that was launched was launched in three key states, wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania and it was launched interestingly enough not to reinforce trump vote toers rs tt but target clinton voters with misinformation in the last week. Reporter federal investigators are examining whether russian operatives used Trump Campaign associates wittingly or unwittingly to aid their own efforts to push information about Hillary Clinton online. As trumps top Foreign Policy aide, kushners contact with russia is under scrutiny. He was one of four Campaign Aides in contact with kislyak and met with the head of a russian banker with close ties to vladimir putin. At first he failed to list those contacts when he applied for a security clearance but later corrected those forms. Seems another day another name. Its hard to find who in this administration is not being connected with suspicious ties to russia. It just points out how important this investigation is. Reporter officials tell cnn kushner is not currently the target of the investigation but believe he may be able to provide information that could be helpful to the fbi probe. Now his lawyers says he has volunteered to share information with congress about his meetings with the russians and willing to talk to the fbi if asked. Lets go to sara murray. Sara, the headlines have been coming daily almost hourly during the president s trump. We know the president is tweeting but not about this. Anything from the white house . Reporter we are not getting any comment from the white house about this notion that Jared Kushner was trying to set up a back channel sort of arrangement with the russians, back Channel Communications effort but there was a wave of stories, reuters report that Jared Kushner also had previously undisclosed contacts with the Russian Ambassador to that we did gelt a statement from Jared Kushners attorney. Mr. Kushner participated in thousands of calls. He has no recollection of the calls described. They asked for dates. We have not received such information. Really no answer from the white house whats going on with this. Theres no indication because Jared Kushner communicated with the Russian Ambassador thats an indication of wrongdoing but does show you how this russia cloud continues to hang over the trip. Now President Trump and his aides are still hoping to end on a high note. Shortly hes headed to the naval airbase in sicily to have a rally with some american troops there. Back to you guys. Now former u. S. Ambassador to nato under president george w. Bush nick burns has some harsh words for the president in response to this the Washington Post report. Take a listen. I never understood why candidate trump and i still dont understand why President Trump has given russia a pass. Hes been the weakest president weve had since well before the Second World War on the issue of russia. Lets bring in Cnn National Security analyst. Good morning to you. The reporting from the Washington Post suggesting that Jared Kushner wanted to set up this back channel. Lets just start generally with your reaction to someone who is still part of the administration wanting to go to a russian facility, to their embassy to have these conversations with the kremlin. In the scale of stories that have been dropping as you said every couple of hours, this one is different and it is huge. So this is not a back channel as people in the Law Enforcement and National SecurityCommunity Came to know, sort of understand back channel. Back channel is actually a president or president elect used the resources of government to sort of secretly start a communication with country, lets say cuba or burma to begin to lay the ground work for sort of more public plodiplomacy. This is jared going rogue. Theres no other way to put it at this stage. This is a country that clearly the Trump Campaign knew was, had infiltrated the campaign or done things to do with the campaign. Kislyak, the campaign surely would have known is a known figure with ties to the kgb. Jared kushner is having multiple meetings, not just kislyak that are secretive and not disclosed and it was not just russian government but bankers with ties to the kgb. Kushner not disclosing any of this in his forms. And then you have a story yesterday that is, you know, at best, you can say kushner was naive but the idea that the russians would open up their own apparatus, intelligence apparatus to a 30 something soninlaw of a president elect, it so defies sort of any good explain swrags, that the best explanation for kushner at this stage is hes incredibly naive. I want to point out the report from reuters this morning as well so we tuned numbers. They are reporting 18 undisclosed calls or emails seven months prior to the election, six of those calls with kislyak, the fbi examining whether rurngs suggested to kushner or to others that relaxing economic sanctions would allow russian banks to offer financing to people with ties to the president. So clarify that, does this suggest the fbi has knowledge or evidence that this happened, that russia suggested these things, or this is just something they suspect . Its probably that i mean the way the fbi would look at this, whats the theory of the case. This is what the challenge for all of us, im very careful with you, i dont say collusion, i dont say treason. Whats the theory of this case. Clearly reporters at reuters and others are talking to those involved with the case. And if they are to believed, you know, i understand the concerns with leaks, if they are to believed, one of the animated theories of the case is that this had less to do with the campaign and collusion, all those thats still out there because remember jared ran that data Mining Office within the campaign, but more to do with whether or not changing the sanctions, sort of quid pro quo would have benefitted kushner and trump organizations. Its why people like me, nonpartisan in this regard yeah we should that have transparency on the finances because what we dont know is sort of the private side of kushner and trump in need of finances that could be paid for by banks that are understand sanctions right now . So that to period is, you know, already its illegal or not, its not in americas best interest and thats why all of these theories of the case, what is it that the investigation is looking at are expanding. In other words theres multiple theories of the case and theres more people implicated. Kushner in particular. Thats really bad news for the white house because what they would have liked, right, is that the investigations stick with carter page, sort of dismiss carter page. Jared kushner is at the front door of the oval office. He has security clearance. Hes a Senior Adviser. Were close to the oval office now and that is disconcerting from anyones perspective but has to be explained by the white house. They can no longer say its just weird carter page or manafort who was fired. This is now in the white house. Talking about this being close to the oval office in the white house i want to go back and take the viewers to january 15th. The then Vice President elect mike pence with Chris Wallace on fox news being asked about potential communications between anyone with the Incoming Administration and the kremlin. Lets watch. Was there any contract in anyway between trump or his associate and the kremlin. Of course. Why would there be any contacts with the kremlin. We knew that to be untrue after the truth came out about Michael Flynns conversations with sergey kislyak. But this further illustrates how a, the Vice President elect then was telling something he knew not to be true or was woe fuful out of the loop on whats happening with this team. Pence is hard to figure out right now. I dont know if he was so completely out of the loop of his own transition. Remember he was running at this stage that all this other stuff was going on and he had no idea. Thats the best explanation for him. Or if he is understood what was going on. I suspect multiple people will be getting lawyers relatively soon. On this flynn issue watts so interesting, remember flynn has also lawyers, he has offered he wants immunity from the house and Senate Intelligence committee. They dont appear to want to give it. We do not know if the fbi isnt it in that immunity. One of the questions has always been is flynn the focus or does flynn have information that implicates other people . Now everyone originally thought it was trump but maybe that information actually has to do with Jared Kushner. Remember, flynn is in the room with him, with Jared Kushner in a lot of these meetings. So the kushnerflynn relationship becomes significance for investigators. All right. Always great to have your input. Its getting complicated. We appreciate entrepreneur sight. Lets turn to the former fbi director james comey who acted on intelligence he knew was fake. And being put out by russia during the clinton email investigation. Well tell you why he says he did it. Also the son of a former Vice President candidate tim kaine now facing charges. What police say he did at a pro trump rally in minnesota. Police say two men are stabbed to death after trying to stop an antimuslim rant. What the suspect yelled at officers when they tracked him down. The best simple veggie dish ever . Heart healthy california walnuts. The best simple dinner ever . Heart healthy california walnuts. Great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. So simple. Get the recipes at walnuts. Org. A lower a1c is a lot witabout choices. Tes but it can be hard sometimes, cause different sides of you struggle with which ones to make. Well, what if you kept making good ones . Then . You could love your numbers. 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These concerns were a major factor in comey to declare the Clinton Probe was over last summer without consulting then attorney general Loretta Lynch. You may remember earlier this week the Washington Post reported on this intelligence and doubts about its credibility. The fact that comey felt he had to act based on russian disinformation is a stark example of how russian interference impacted decisionmaking at the highest levels of the u. S. Government during the 2016 campaign. The russian information at issue claimed to show that the attorney general lynch had been compromised in the clinton investigation because of emails between then dnc chair Debbie Wassermanschultz and a political operative lynch saying the fbi probe would make the probe go way. According to one Government Official in classified briefings, comey told lawmakers he was afraid the information would, quote drop and undermine the investigation but comey didnt doubt the accuracy of that information even in a classified setting a few months ago. According to sources close to comey the fbi director felt the validity of the information didnt matter because if it became public they had no way to discredit it without burning sources and methods. Think about the chain of events all of this help set off. When comey held his press conference in 2016 announcing no charges against clinton he also took an extraordinary and what many people say inappropriate step of calling her extremely careless. Clinton aides are convinced her reputation was damaged with voters and she never recovered. Now it probably wouldnt have happened without russian interference. Talking to many officials on capitol hill elsewhere dissemination of false information is still an ongoing issue. Multiple source tell us that russia is still trying to spread false information in order to cloud and confuse ongoing investigations. Dana bash. Lets bing in Deputy Editor of the weekly standard. Theres a phrase, kelly, and good morning to you that stands out from danas reporting that the validity of the information didnt matter. If it got out it would undermine if investigation. What are you hearing at least the response to this new reporting. Amazing, people in washington, we dont feel we have any social lives any more because we have to keep up with news. Seems theres breaking news every day whether its about Jared Kushner or the Trump Campaign and this is pretty big but its unclear exactly what the consequences are, and, you know, director comey certainly had a difficult problem and he was a man that faced so many difficult choices and yet heres another one. It seems to me that throughout this clinton investigation and its aftermath, his main concern was to keep the fbi and the Justice Departments reputation and that was certainly a difficult thing and this made it a lot more difficult. You know, im hearing that the information was unreliable. They dont know for certain it was fake but it was a high probability but nobody knows for sure and thats one of the many thing that we dont know. His effort, as you say, im paraphrasing to preserve confidence in the process and in the fbi. But has he doesnt the opposite, potentially . Well, you know, i think we need to look at the wider context surrounding this. You know, maybe one of the reasons that they were concerned about this information, whether they knew it was reliable or not was because of other information that they had that even the public had and that, of course, was that famous meeting on the tarmac in arizona between attorney general Loretta Lynch and former president bill clinton. Nobody is saying that they know that was an attempt to intimidate her or to stop the investigation but certainly bad optics. I wonder if comey had that in mind when he was thinking about what i do do about this information that says that theres possibly some emails, possibly not. So we need to look at the wider context. Yeah, maybe he made a bad call on this. Perhaps he was thinking about that knowledge that everybody had that kind of made it took bad. I think even without this possible russian email hoax that he certainly had reason to doubt that the public would trust the Justice Department on the clinton investigation. He has certainly cited that meeting on the tarmac in previous testimony as being the cap for him in the investigation. Hell be back on capitol hill testifying again before the senate intel committee. To what degree do you expect this new reporting will move towards the center of that testimony . I certainly think it will be a big part but there are so many other questions that hell have to face. You know, he certainly has theres more than one issue here. Theres this issue, did he act properly in closing the investigation and doing at any time way he did which was unprecedented to have a public press conference by the director of the fbi saying we dont recommend a prosecution but im going to say all the stuff what i think about the case. Then, of course, there is the question of why he was fired by President Trump and was he encouraged to drop some other matters unrelated to the clinton email investigation. So they have a lot of questions for him and some of them are directly related to his own handling of the clinton thing and some will be related to how he handled President Trump. So, hes got a lot on his plate and there are republicans and democrats alike have a lot of questions that hell have to answer and, you know, its almost like he has more work to do now that hes been fired than when he wasnt. There will be questions about the memos, questions about any recording, but this could have supported the initial justification for his firing that was put out by the white house until the president came out the next day and said that he actually planned to fire him before he got that recommendation from rosenstein. Thanks so much. Thanks, victor. Michael kaine son of tim kaine is now facing several misdeamnor charges. Hes charged with fleeing on foot, concealing identity in a public place and obstructing a Legal Process by interfering with a peace officer. The obstruction charge carries possible sentence of up to a year in prison and a fine of as much as 3,000. This coming from his arrest in march after an incident at a pro trump rally. Kaine was a counter protester there, some in his group reportedly used smoke once and mace at that rally and Police Officers said they tried to run that group did but were caught a block away. Now remember they initially denied charges but the st. Paul attorney charged kaine based on further investigation. A new report connects Jared Kushner the president s soninlaw and Senior Adviser to the Russian Investigation and could cause more problems for a white house already in turmoil. We are live in moscow with details on the timing, and the intentions of this leak potentially. Also Melania Trump we saw a lot of her this week and a lot of people said she seems to be getting more comfortable as her role as first lady. What we learned about her during this first trip abroad. Our senses awake, our hearts racing as one. I know this is sudden, but they say if you love something. Set it free. See you around, giulia but when we brought our daughter home, that was it. Now i have nicoderm cq. 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The meeting was attend by former National Security adviser Michael Flynn we know and according to this reporting and russia ambassador sergey kislyak. Lets listen together here to what the Washington Post report who are broke this story told cnn. During that discussion according to kislyaks account you have Jared Kushner proposing the idea to have a secure private Communications Channel and jared actually proposes doing so at a russian facility, specifically the Russian Embassy in washington, which kislyak according to his reporting at home he was taken aback by that. He thought that was a bizarre suggestion. At this point its important to say Jared Kushner is not a target of the probe and there are no allegations of wrongdoing here. But the fbi investigation into President Trumps russia ties has been inching closer to the white house. Watch this. Even though the president is overseas the controversy surrounding his connections and his campaigns possible connections to russia continue to intensify. President trump bragged to a Russian Foreign minute certificate and Russian Ambassador in the oval office about his firing of fbi director koem saying he leading great pressure from the Russian Investigation. Mr. Trump called comey quote crazy, a real nut job. The Senate Intelligence committee is considering whether to hold Michael Flynn in contempt now that the fired National Security adviser said he will invoke his fifth amendment rights. Cnn has learned President Trump is expected to hire his long time attorney Marc Kasowitz on matters related to the russian probe. Attorney general Jeff Sessions did not disclose meetings he had last year with russian officials when he applied for his security clearance. Russia tried to influence Paul Manafort on top of cnns reporting that russia tried to do the same to the former National Security adviser Michael Flynn. Another major blow to President Trumps immigration ban. A federal Appeals Court upholding the block on his second travel ban. The fbis Russian Investigation reportedly now focusing on Jared Kushners role during the campaign and transition, including kushners relationship with fired National Security adviser Michael Flynn as well as some russian contacts. Were now learning why the now fired fbi director went public to announce the investigation of Hillary Clintons emails was ending. It was july of last year when james comey held that summer news conference. Turn out he was worried about the russians impacting the integrity of the investigation. Now this morning we are getting the first reaction from russian officials about this report. Cnn correspondent Claire Sebastian is in moscow. Russia is dismissing the details of kushners contacts in this report with ambassador kislyak. Reporter right. We reached out to the Russian Foreign ministry this morning for a comment on that the Washington Post report. They havent denied that any contact took place to be precise. The comment we got from the Foreign Ministry spokesperson was simply calling this report quite mccarthyism or simply internal political squabbles. Thats what she told us. I followed it up if she would confirm that moscow was aware that kushner had made that request since this was an intercept of communication between kislyak and his superiors. She would not be drawn on that. She said if you want to learn more you should look to the middle east referring to a recent deal by saudi arabia to invest 20 billion in u. S. Infrastructure, funneling that through the Blackstone Group an Investment Firm that has had ties to kushners companies, russia very much along the line with the rhetoric trying to paint this more as evidence of internal political chaos in washington. They are keenly aware that russia is a theme thats politically tookics for trump. Claire sebastian for us in rush. Well let you know former u. S. National security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski has tied. Carter described him as a superb Public Servant saying in a statement he was brilliant, dedicated and loyal and remained a close adviceor to med adviso center. His death was announced by his daughter mika brzezinski. He was 89 years old. Our thoughts go out to mika as well. Lets turn now to two men who have been stabbed to death after trying to stop an antimuslim rant. This was in portland, oregon. How another man tried to stop the attack and was there when police found the suspected killer. 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He thought what he was watching was a fight. In fact what he saw was two men being stabbed to death on a commuter train in portland, oregon. This happened, police say, after they tried to confront a passenger who was yelling antimuslim slurs at two other passengers. The suspect may have been targeting two young women, one of them wearing hijab. When several people tried to interevenes they were stabbed. Three people were stabbed. One died. Then the suspect left the train. When he got off the train i saw he was holding a knife and then he says continue to follow me. I knew in that moment if i didnt follow this guy it would haunt me my entire life. He did follow the man and was there when police arrived. He recorded the suspect yelling at the officers. Watch and listen. Shoot me. You can hear he said shoot me, shoot me then. The man was arrested. Police say considering his remarks hate speech following the stabbing, the council on americanislamic relations called on President Trump to speak out against rising bigotry a rising violence against muslim. Well speak with cair representative in our next hour. Even while shopping in a Grocery Store weve seen some of these videos more and more of these racist rants seem to be happening in public. Of course they are getting recorded on smartphones and uploaded online. Whats driving it, a lot of you are asking. Can it spark a positive change. Reporter a series of racist rants in public. And on camera. A woman in a virginia sprint store hurled racial slur at a fellow customer. In arkansas i said excuse me. Go back wherever youre from. Reporter go back to mexico is what this walmart shopper told another. She then fired an nword at a woman looking to interject. Stop being ignorant. [ bleep ] youre calling me ignorant. Reporter then this orlando resident captured on his phone at the airport last week. Shut up. Shut up. Reporter wow, unbelievable. I just had to document it. Telling cnn he was speaking span zwroish his puerto rican mother on the phone when things got heated. Explain what i did to you one more time. [ bleep ] speaking stupid spanish around here when everybody else is English Speaking americans. Reporter racist rants arent new director at the institute for study of race and difference. These videos remind us that race has been a constant and persistent problem in the united states. Reporter theres been a spike in the number of racist rants posted on social media experts say. As Technology Becomes even more and more mainstream, and more and more people are having smartphone device, and video capability is going to be exploding more and more. Reporter recording these kind of confront swragss may also empower people to expose the racism. It could be a trump factor behind it all. People perhaps feel more emboldened to express politically incorrect points of view. But i think its important to note that these people held these points of view long before donald trump emerged as a public figure. Reporter videos may be ugly. Unbelievable. But they are called a launching point for a larger conversation about race. Authorities have arrested two more men in connection with this weeks bombing in manchester. Were learning that the suicide bomber spoke with his brother in libya just 15 minutes before that blast. Heres the latest numbers. 13 people have been arrested in connection with the attack. 11 still in custody. Investigators are, however, still working to track down anyone who worked with the suspected bomber because they are concerned he could be part of a network that may be planning more attacks. Still to come, you probably have seen this hand gesture, the first ladys swat. What message was she sending, if any. Plus all that we learned about the first lady during her first trip abroad. Thats next. Theres nothing more than my vacation. Me so when i need to book a hotel room, i want someone that makes it easy to find what i want. Booking. Com gets it. They offer free cancellation if my plans change. Visit booking. Com. Booking. Yeah. S. Welcome back. Coming up on 11 minutes to the top of the hour. This was not only the First International trip for donald trump as president this was the First International trip for Melania Trump as first lady. And this week weve learned a little bit more about her. She seemed to be somewhat more comfortable in her role. A lot of people had that takeaway. She had some moments coming in to question just because people want to know more about her and she does seem almost untouchable to some degree. But then you see moments like this where shes sitting in a classroom, a place where shes so comfortable with children. Something that you would think is probably going real cause for her, something she wants to take up. She was talking to some of the sick kids there and also her moment with the pope. So lets bring in Kate Anderson brouwer. Based on everything weve seen this week whats i think she also sort of remains an enig ma. Clearly no one knew she was catholic until this meeting with the pope. She was married to donald trump in an episcopal church, their son was baptized there. She picked a school in washington, Saint Andrews that has 18 of the class is catholic. So you see that her, you know, true identity is coming through a little bit more. You saw a deeply moving moment there when she was visiting with the children in the hospital. She wrote a letter to the pope asking to visit the hospital. I think were seeing a softer side of Melania Trump. She tweeted, todays visit with his holiness with pope francis is one i will never forget. I was humbled by the honor, blessings to all. What do you make of her openness about her religion . I think that, you know, we saw back in february she spoke at a rally for her husband and gave the lords prayer. I think we see now why religion is so important to her, but we dont know, for instance, if she goes to mass, we dont know anything about her catholicism. I think she wants to keep it private. This dole she and gibb and a coat valued at 51,000. Had a lot of people riled up. Thats some peoples annual salary. And theyre saying what is she doing wearing this coat. To that you say what . I think that the whole trump brand is about opulence and glamour and i dont think it will have a huge impact. The people that like him dont mind. I think the hand swat and other things on the trip, that video of her kind of swatting away his hand, i dont think that hurts her because i think his supporters dont care, dont believe it was a real hand swat and people that dont like trump. Here it is so i can reference, this is was some believe he was reaching for her hand and she swatted him away. This is a couple for whom we dont see a lot of affection. We saw president obama and even both of the bush couples holding hands. There was some affection we saw in them and dont see so much of that. Thats true. We dont see it at all. Look at the reagans. Like you said, bushes, obamas, the fords, carters, pretty much every president ial couple in the tv era youve seen them display some public affection. Interestingly enough, the kennedys didnt hold hands often, but that was a different time, they were very private about their relationship. You see that with the trumps. This is the first first lady that hasnt lived in the white house immediately. I think they have a different marriage. They dont live together. This interview with the magazine about his decision to run for president gives us some insight what youre talking about, talking about she hasnt moved to the white house yet. She said in that interview i said to him you really need to think because our family life will change, the three of us will change. I know what it takes, traveling and all that stuff. If he really wanted to do that, i would support him 100 , but i would also be a mom first. I would be with our son, i would be home. Is there a point where we will see a transition for her embracing her role more and help us understand the pressure shes under to do so. I think shes under tremendous amount of pressure. Ive spoken with friends of hers that say shes moving here this summer. Obviously baron is starting school in potomac outside washington late august, early september. Once she moves to the white house, shes going to have to pick a cause and be committed to it. People will be seeing more of her. Kate anderson brower. 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