Interesting. Solid conservative, excellent legislator. I think es hes one of these people you want in congress. A person of tremendous integrity whether you agree with him or disagree. He knows full well hes going to face a primary opponent and trump will campaign against him but in the land of barry gold water, were going to see now a defiant and Maverick Mccain and someone in flake with this book and his campaign is going to elevate conservativism again. The ultimately they need to find a way to govern. The to go to voters to say give us your trust to move the country in a new direction. Thats not just about the economy and the governments intervention in the economy. So you have the republicans making a move towards conscience or so they say and chris, you
have this other blow to the president in the form of a lawsuit, former d. C. Cop accusing fox news of manufacturing a story, using the death of a dnc staffer to distract from the Russia Investigation. We talked to the donor at the center of it last night here. Ed po towski, going to the family with a tip that revealed nothing about the truth. How big a deal is this lawsuit to fox news, part of it is met with shaun spiean spicer. And the president is alleged to have read this piece. I think that last piece you mentioned is the most important. Obviously theatrics is one side of the story. Is proof is soft. In h a lawsuit. So, but the fact that that allegation, that theres those
emails are texts in which it says the president read this and wants it out. First of all, why is the president reading a story before its published. Thats number one. Number two, it does suggest an involvement in a story that is, at root, in a tremendously sad story about the murder of a Young Political operative. That is conspiracy sheerries aside, this is about seth rich in a robbery gone wrong not according to chris, according to the police. So, the i think we are all now familiar with this sort of stuff, which is the twisting around in the shaping of events to push a political perspective. The when you have a Major Networkagain, alleged in a lawsuit when you have a Major Network and potentially the white house involved, its all the more unsavory and all the more hypocritical if the charges
against the white house end up being true. Because Donald Trumps favorite thing to do is run down the so called fake news which is essentially translated news he doesnt like. This is actual fake news. This is created from whole cloth, taking grief of a family over the tragic loss of a son and trying to use it for political gain when you no he theres no there, there. Lets add to this. Donald trump rose to political prominence by advancing a lie about the president of the United States not being born in america. It was nonsense and a racist lie. Thats how he launched himself. Hes very comfortable in the murky end of swamp. Thats where hes operated. Thats a fact. He doesnt get the benefit of the doubt. Of course hes interested in trafficking this filth. He was up there saying go wikilea wikileaks, its so irresponsible on its face and its rooted in something else. Not only the hideous disrespect for a grieving family but that somehow what russia did to attempt to manipulate our election is a product of this deep state conspiracy instead of the Intelligence Agencies who make mistakes but have worked really hard to protect this country and are working to protect his administration as well whether he believes them or not. There are real threats out there from russia to the United States, to our Electoral System trying to be influenced and he doesnt care about that because he only sees that as a question of his legitimacy. The thats the fund mental problem we see here. Its not hyperbole. If you start to add these together. The idea of fake news, it is lies and conspiracies that undemocratic regimes use as
their currency. Theres more to come on this story. Because the lawsuit by rod wheeler, the detective has just been filed so there are certainly more investigation and threads that will come out. Gentlemen, thank you very much for all of this. As david and chris just pointed out El Oh Kweptsly and you made the same point earlier this morning. It comes down to trust and that ic tas us to the other top story. The white house now admitting that the president did weigh in on whatever that means, 0en that misleading statement by his son about that meeting with a russia lawyer. Take a listen to the latest spin. The statement that don junior issued is true. Theres no inaccuracy in the statement. The president weighed in h as any father would, based on the limited information that he had. Why do i call well would Beious Beiously reed reading off notes. They had been saying initially. That is called spin. So lets discuss with former
federal prosecutor and deputy special counsel, peter ziedenberg. How do you see this shift from no role to weighed in. Meaning full . Not meaningful . Why . Its of a piece. Obviously this is something thats happened time and time again. Anyone who goes out for the administration and stakes out a position, its just a matter of time, it seems before that position is undercut. But i think more importantly, it really poses a legal risk for everybody who was involved on Air Force One and who played a part in drafting that statement. Why . Because this is taken you have to look at the context. Okay . So this is an ongoing criminal investigation. The first thing that Defense Attorneys will always tell a
client whos the subject of an investigation is do not talk about this case with anyone. And in particular, do not talk about this case with anyone else involved in the case. And the reason for that is if the government prosecutors find out there were conversations, they are immediately suspicious and the first thing that theyre going to want to find out is what were they talking about and were they trying to match their stories, and basically obstruct justice. But you have let me just get in there the analysis to help people out with this. Because the president s theory is sufficiencyargument. Okay fine we werent telling the truth when i said i didnt play a role. Its not illegal for me to shape the message. I think its all bogus so im going to craft my own narrative. Its certainly true that lying to the public is not a crime. And putting out an Inaccurate Press release is not a crime. So, i dont think anyones suggests that in and of itself youve got a case based on false statements made in a press release, but, step back. If youre a prosecutor and looking at an Obstruction Of Justice case, youre thinking in your mind a narrative. The youre thinking literally already about what an Opening Argument would make, what would sound like in your own head if you gave it to a jury. And at least what i would be thinking theyre thinking is that they fired james comey why . We have the makings lets say a theory of obstruction. The theory is that hes afraid of what the russians investigations going to turn over. The so now you fastforward and
youve got this email, which is highly incriminating. It basically says the russian government wants to help the elect donald trump and weve got dirt on Hillary Clinton, and three of his top staff, including his son, his Campaign Manager and soninlaw take the meeting and attend. The view from where i would be sitting if i were a prosecutor is thats a highly incriminating meeting. And their reaction to this news is also something you want to watch. If they really believed the meeting was a nothing, a Nothing Burger is what they said originally, then why all the deception about what went on . And why is the president involving himself in coming up with what appears to be a false recitation of the facts. And the theory would be because hes afraid of the truth. And that feeds into this
overarching nar aive it. The so in and of itself, not a im kroo. No question about it. But as a or he just doesnt like the suggestion so trying to do everything he can to tamp it down. I want a quick take from you on this. Is what the russians would call what aboutism . Forget about what trump and his staffers may or may not have done, what about the clintons, speech that bill clinton gave and the actions taken buy the Secretary Of State and money that came into the foundation. Is there anything there you believe deserves parallel concern and consideration . No. And more importantly i dont think theres anything there that bob mueller and his team is going to consider relevant. A prosecutors going to look at the case on all fours and say is this a case i can go to a jury and persuade 12 people beyond a
reasonable doubt. Hillary clintons uranium deal is not going to enter into that analysis. Bob muellers a registered republican. Put in place by the Deputy Acting Ag that trump had celebrated and relied on. Former prosecutor peter, appreciate your perspective. Thank you. We have breaking news right now to get to flight data reveals that that north korean int intercontinental ballistic test came within miles of the flight path of an air france passenger jet. An air france spokesperson says the test zones do not interfere with the flight paths however since north korea never announces its test, airlines do not know when or where there could be danger. Meanwhile the u. S. Is testing
another intercontinental missile. Officials say this is not in response to the recent missile tests. As we mentioned republican senators are breaking with the president on health care. The a gop senator is going to join us to talk about what theyre doing and why. At the Lexus Golden Opportunity Tesales event before it ends. Choose from the is turbo, es 350 or nx turbo for 299 a month for 36 months if you lease now. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. Expoliplosive news. Concocting a fake news story about a murder of a dnc staffer. Reporter theres a possibility this is a guy who provided two wikileaks, all those dnc emails a false story could have fingerprints reaching all the way to the white house. Claiming Fox Conconductcted a s if it was true that seth rich gave wikileaks the dnc emails wouldnt that blow the whole russia collusion . Reporter that is part of this pro trump conspiracy theory. Richards theory says his death has been exploited by right wing media. At the center of the story is a
wealthy republican donor. Claims they were in conhoots contriving a link. Wheeler worked with ba to you ski. Its very consistent with a person with my experience to begin to think perhaps there were email communications between seth and kick can i leeks. Richs family says thats not true and d. C. Police belief his killing was a botched robbery. The nothing politically motivated. But that didnt stop fox. It sure doesnt look like a robbery. The looks like a murder. The. After days of coverage back this may, the network retracted the story. Now, months later, wheelers explosive lawsuit says he was misquoted, defamed by fox. I do believe i was used as a pawn in this entire thing. Reporter and his suit goes much further claiming the story was coordinated with the white house. I think their goal based on the emails and voice mails i
got from ed butowsky was to bunk this. The this whole idea something was coordinated with rod wheeler thats absolute nonsense. Reporter this text message is one the suits most eye popping claims. Not to as any e. Anymore pressure but the president just read the article. He wants it out immediately. The its all you up to you. Butowsky now says he was just kidding around. This was tongue in cheek talking. Reporter the white house pushing back as well. The president didnt have knowledge of the story. The white house didnt have involvement in the story. Reporter but there is a link to the white house. Butowsky and wheeler met with then Secretary Sean Spicer a month before the story came out. Butowsky telling cnn he wanted to present audio. Did he know why you wanted to meet with him. No. As a matter of fact yeah. Because i said to sean ai was going to be in town. The my conversation with sean about this recording lasted about one minute. He said, ed, i dont know anything about it. I dont want to know anything about it. I cant do anything. Reporter spicer says it was just a tenminute courtesy meeting. But the suit claims spicer asked to be kept abreast of developments. As for fox it calls the accusation completely erroneous. Our next guest was a target of russias meddling in the u. S. Election when his emails were hacked and leaked. John was the consciousnangs very much for being here. Good morning. What do you think of this surreal and terribly sad story about the murder of seth rich and this new development in h this lawsuit that connects the
white house with this story, rod wheeler, who has filed a lawsuit. He was the former d. C. Homicide detective who says that the white house is very interested in h deflicting away from the Russia Investigation and trying to basically pin it on seth rich leaking this. Well, couple things. The first of all, i think it was despicable that fox news was peddling that and i think whats really amazing is this now connection possibly between the white house reknow that sean spicer was at least informed. We know he went to the same podium and said he didnt know anything about it after that meeting. There are emails implicating the president. So its really the lowest of the low. And on top of that, just last week, the president wined and dined Shaun Han Nertty who was
the chief and bill shine who had to resign from fox. The some reporting that shine may be brought into the white house. So the whole thing is horrible, i think, and i think that the rich family has really suffered a lot as a result of the lack of values both at fox news and the white house. Whenever the white house is asked, at least in the press briefings, about the Russia Investigation, and anything, any of the threads, they pretty quickly deflict to well, why Arent You InvestigatingHillary Clinton. This just happened. Sarah huckabee sand ders was just asked the question and you can see this plain as day. Let me play this for you and get your response. You guys are focussed on a meeting that don jr. Had no consequence when the democrats actually colluded with a foreign government. If you want to talk about a
relationship with russia, look nor further than the clintons. Bill clinton was paid half a million dollars. Hillary clinton allowed the uranium to be sold. Clinton campaigns chairmans brother lobbied against sanctions against russians largest bank. If you want to talk about having relations, look nor further than there. I dont know if you can see on your screen but shes reading from notes. Yeah. This is what they do. They try to divert attention. Those stories she went through have been knocked down by the mainstream media. Le but i think just like the seth rich story at fox, what they like to try to do is throw dust some place else so they at least give the altright media and fox news something to talk about. When we ought to be talking
about that meeting with don trump jr. And the fact that the president dictated, according to some sources, at least participated, in a statement that was grossly misleading. Think about that. This is trump family values. The kids come to the president and say, dad, its time to come clean. Wed better talk about what happened at that meeting. And whats the dads response in no. That might hurt me. Put out a grossly misleading statement, which fell apart within a couple days. What do you think is the upshot . H. They have a lot to answer for. Yeah. But what do you think that somebody has been exposed to more legal jeopardy as a result of that . Yeah. Think that you heard that from the former prosecutor in the valerie plain case. I think they all to the o. Got together, the special prosecutor, mr. Mueller is
certainly going to be suspicious about that. The and i think adam schiff, the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee, i think put his finger on this. The they may not have evidence of collusion yet but they sure have evidence and this meeting is evidence of init ent to collude. Don jr. s statement this is great and influencing the timing of when they might use the information. Remember, this all goes back. The they like to say theres no crime. This all goes back to crimes that were committed. The hacking of the dnc, hacking of my emails, hacking of other Clinton Campaign staff emails. Those are crimes committed by the russians, and now we know that if at at minimum, they were encouraging them to use the fruits of those crimes. I want to get to an op ed you wrote for the Washington Post in which youre offering free advice to the new chief of
staff, john kelly for the white house from you, from your position as former chief of staff. Your first tidbit was dont take the job. Hes clearly rejected that advice, now that hes in the job and in the white house, what advice do you have for him . Yeah. As i said, that had been overtaken by events before i wrote it. Look, i have tremendous respect for general kelly. He has a very difficult job. I think day one, he got rid of anthony scaramucci, at least got him out of the Communications Director job. I think that the reason his job is going to be so tough is that theres a culture in the white house that really is sort of knows no boundaries, hes got to contend with a president who even after appointing him, has said that hes not going to stop tweeting. s he going to continue his current practices. So, i think hes tried to show some discipline in the white
house. Hopefully that will be successful. We all want the country to succeed. And he has a tremendous record of service. Hes also got to reestablish relationships with leaders on both sides of the aisle on capitol hill. I think the white house, again, has no credibility. So i think it really is incumbent upon him to personally try, as a man of his word, to establish those relationships. As i noted in my op ed, hes got to be the bull work against interferen interference. At the president will try to continue to interfee Whats Going On at the Justice Department and kelly has to be firm and say were not going to do that. That will get us into more trouble. Before i let you go. Just because are so close to the clintons and Hillary Clinton and you were obviously so involved in her campaign, are you
surprised and is Hillary Clinton surprised at how often the president invokes her name, how often the white house talks about her. We are on monday 200 days into the Trump Administration and it seems that not a week goes by where he doesnt mention her. You know, its unprecedented. You never saw that behavior from any other president whos talking about the person they beat. I think it really just bugs the hell out of him than she got 3 million more votes than he did. He keeps coming back to that. I loose sleep about that every night. But i think partly strategic to try to deflect attention from his problems, but i think hes really under her shes really under his skin, because he knows that in h the popular vote, that she beat him and beat him
solidly. What does she say about that . Well, look, i think shell have something to say about that when her book comes out mid september. I think shes reflected on the mistakes that she made, what she might have done different, but i think shell also talk about where the country is and how to move forward. Thats what shes always done in her life which is when shes gotten knocked down tried to make a positive contribution coming out of that. I think thats what this ook book will attempt to do. Thank you so much for your perspective. Thanks for having me on. All right. So only six lawmakers have ever voted against confirming fbi director nominees. Five of those noes happened yesterday whoooo. Looking for a hotel that fits. Your budget . Tripadvisor now searches over. 200 sites to find you the. Hotel you want at the lowest price. Grazi, gino find a price that fits. Tripadvisor. The president who said that the aca should be allowed to implode and fail and he wanted to do his part by not giving the subsidies that Insurance Companies are relying on to keep premiums where they are specifically for lowerincome people. How real is this . How sustained will it be . Theres some other big agenda items to discuss so lets get the take of democratic senator ed marky who serves on the fon relations committee. Forgive me skepticism but is it true that democrats are taking this gesture from certain republicans and trying to do the work of the American People instead of just playing to political advantage . Well, two things happened last thursday and friday morning. First, the democrats and republicans worked together to put tobt together a set of sanctions that were done in a
bipartisan fashion and put restrictions upon what donald trump could do in lifting those sanctions. And so, that was a got moment for the senate. Then later on that night, on a partisan vote of the republicans tried hard but couldnt receive all of the votes of all of the members and failed to repeal the Affordable Care act. The and now, it seems that Lamar Alexander and other republicans are reaching across the aisle and i do think its happening because i think thats the Natural Inclination of senators, to try to find a way to solve these problems. Because otherwise, the Insurance Markets could collapse, premiums could rise. We have to Work Together. And i am very heartened that perhaps this was an Inflexion Point and that democrat the and republicans are going to start to Work Together on behalf of the American People. Now, theres no guarantee. There are a lot of other
issues issuesissues. The budget ceiling, tax bill. But hopefully this is a new phase after seven months of donald trump saying its my way or the highway. Its the rule of trump, not the rule of law. Maybe we are moving on to a new era where the senate exerts its constitutional powers and lets the Executive Wait for the United States to dispose. The president can propose but now the senate seems to begin to understand and work towards having us exercise our prerogatives as well. Is so how do you reconcile this suggested move away from what you could call tragic comedy and towards comity, and threats about not going with
republicans on the debt ceiling which is upcoming in september. How real it this intention to try to work with the other side . My concern is over the issue of surveillance and this tension that exists between privacy, liberty on the one hand and security on the other hand. As each one of those devices becomes more and more ubiquitous, we have to decide whether or not we want legally to have a back door be built into every device so there will be ubiquitous surveillance in our country. I think that in the public statements that were made, i did not hear an answer which gave me confidence that that balance towards the protection of the privacy, the protection of the liberty of americans was basically a part of his
philosop philosophy. The ive been working on that issue for 20 years going back to the Clinton Administration trying to build a clipper chip into every one of these devices. Its something i continued along with another senator to raise concerns about in our country. So it was policy not personal when it came to chris ray. That leads us to the last topic, which is if you want to talk about Congress Taking its power back, in your case, the senate, there is no topic that goes under that heading more directly than the abrogation of constitutional duty to declare war that congress has, not the president , and giving president s, not just trump, obama before him, bush before him, arguably, clinton before him that youve given away that duty and want to start debating the authorization for use of Military Force. The to remind people were still operating under one written in 2001 yet the world changed so
much. Wh what are you hoping happens. In 2001 we voted for the use of Military Force. It was after two planes were high jacked from Logan Airport in boston and flown into the world trade center. We wanted justice for those who had perpetrated that act. The now were 16 years later. No one who voted for that authorization for the use of Military Force thought it would be used as a blank check to take us into country after country after group after group. So its time for us to begin a new debate about which countries, which groups, which level of force, which types of force can be used under that 2001 authorization. We need a new authorization. And then we need to have Sunset Provisions included so we periodically redebate how that new authorization is being used. We havent had a fullblown senatorial or house debate on this issue in 16 years, and no one who voted for that first authorization ever imagined how that power would be used. And theres a suggestion that congress has been ducking their duty allowing president s could carry the ball. Lets see if that schajs. Stay on the story. Thank you for being on. Okay. The chris. Im going to read sports now. The an i credible play you have to see to believe. The indians outfielder Austin Jackson flipping over a wall to make a catch. We have all the details in the bleacher report. But first an ohio man overcomes adk shn to become an iron man 28 times over. Recovery can be real. And that is the subject of this weeks turning points. Everything bad that happened in my life and everything that is now currently good in my life is a direct result of my real mother committing suicide when i was three and a half years old. Le when i was growing up i felt abandoned. I felt angry. Depressed. I took my first drink of clol at the age of 13. For the next 13 years, i was a full blown alcoholic, cocaine, heroin, crack. I got my awakening at the age of 26. Received my third drunk you can driving charge an thats when i decided to turn my life around. The day i quit, i went cold turkey. Exercise helped me deal with depression, from wanting to use drugs again. What made me pursue the iron man was simply the enorm myty of it. But i didnt know how to swim. I wasnt a bike rider and wasnt running. About six years into my sobriety i started doing the iron man. Ive done 28 around the world. We want to talk about how awesome it is to be sober. My inspiration was simply helping other addicts to show them what can be done when youre not using drugs. I never in a million years thought that i would be alive. Let alone doing what im doing today. And thats the best message i can deliver to someone whos currently battling addictions. Turning point. Im a concrete mason. I own my own company. I had some severe fatigue, some funny rashes. Finally, listening to my wife, went to a doctor. And i became diagnosed with hodgkins lymphoma. That diagnosis was tough. I had to put my trust in somebody. When i first met steve, we recommended chemotherapy, and then we did high dose therapy and then autologous stem cell transplant. Unfortunately, he went on to have Progressive Disease i thought that he would be a good candidate for immune therapy. Its an intravenous medicine that is going to make his Immune System evade the tumor. With chemotherapy, i felt rough, fatigue, nauseous. And with immune therapy weve had such a positive result. Im back to working hard. Ive honestly never felt this great. I believe the future of immunotherapy at ctca is very bright. The evolution of cancer care is here. Learn more at cancercenter. Com Appointments Available now. What, what . Pepsoriasis does that. It was tough getting out there on stage. I wanted to be clear. I wanted it to last. So i kept on fighting. I found something that worked. And keeps on working. Now . They see me. See me. 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Its still trending number one. Unless superman gets signed by a team, clevelands Austin Jackson will have catch of the year. Watch this. This guy stretches out like my waist line after waterfall house. s he 30 years old somehow keep the an eye on the ball while jumping and running into and flipping over the wall at fenway park into the bullpen. He robs red Sox Hanley Ramirez of a home run. He cant belief it. The they didnt even know if he
was going to make the roster after spring training. But sacrificing the body. Unreal. Indians ended up losing to the red sox 1012 in this one but Austin Jackson winning in my booj of book. I do that all the time but by accident. Let me just tell you the only inaccurate thing he said. Wire is in ridiculous shape. Makes me look like a chub by toddler. Good stuff. Next. That wasnt it. No. We have more. No, wifi. Wifi. Its not a question, its a thing. Take on summer right with ford, americas bestselling brand. Now with summers hottest offer. Get zero percent for seventytwo months plus an additional thousand on top of your tradein. During the Ford Summer Sales event get zero percent for seventytwo months plus an additional thousand on top of your tradein. Offer ends soon. If youve got a life, you Gotta Swiffer i found the perfect come in this afternoon. Oh. No. No when the unexpected strikes. Dont worry weve got you covered. The hartford strikes back. Time for the good stuff. Cafe owner makes a mean cup of coffee. Realizes the people coming there are really craving kindness as much as anything else. We recalled a mother who couldnt get her kids down for a nap. Just wanted coffee. Well you are youre in luck. Because youre having a bad day your coffees free and go pick out a pastry. Humanity. So its part now what shes made a pay it forward campaign. You write down your needs or what you can provide, and its usually taken care of about i the kindness of strangers. The hows that idea . I love this idea. Enough for another book . Thank you for always working in h amanda wakes up. I know that you are midway through it. All done . Well, last night i picked it up because i wanted to read it for the fifth time and it got even better. Oh, my gosh. Im so happy to hear that. Tonight, chris will be hosting don lennons show, cnn tonight
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