From six majority muslim countries, but one of the most interesting takeaways is the president this morning seems to be complaining about the Administration Policy of donald trump, and executive orders that, in fact, hes had to sign off on. Lets begin with the first tweet. People, the lawyers and the courts can call it whatever they want, but im calling it what we need and what it is, a travel ban this despite many attempts by members of his staff to label it something other than a travel ban. Then the second tweet the Justice Department should have stayed with the original travel ban, not the watered down politically correct version they submitted to sc, meaning supreme court. Thats a reference to the first travel ban executive order which could have been construed and was actually shut down by the courts because it appeared to be a pretextual and discriminatory, especially since the president of the United States, as a candidate, had called for a complete and total shutdown of muslims entering the country. The third tweet, the Justice Department should ask for an expedited hearing of the watered down travel version. In any event we are in extreme vetting people coming into the country in order to keep our country safe. The reaction from administration aides i spoke with kelleyanne c kel kellyanne conway, i asked her about the tweets this morning, she said why do you obsess so much about the president s tweets as opposed to what he did . I said to her well these are tweets by the president of the United States, to which she gave me no answer. Alisyn, chris, back to you. Joe, these are statements, statements of policy. We can call them tweets which i think somehow minimizes it, but this is how he really feels. So thank you, joe, for all of that communication that youve had and you shared with us. We will be speaking with one of the president s advisers momentarily but to our other top story. Britains Prime Minister says officials know the identities of the three london terrorists two killed seven people and injured 48 others. Clarissa ward is live in london. What have you learned . Reporter hi, alisyn. Behind me is Borough Market where the attack took place. There is still a Large Police Presence here, weve seen Forensics Team going in. They know the identity of the three attackers, theyre not sharing it with the public yet and we have been continuing with raids, searching four different homes, arresting 11 different people as they tried to determine for sure and conclusively that the network does not stretch any further. Number of raids and arrests as isis claims responsibility for saturdays attack. Although no evidence currently exists to back up the claim. Neighbors at this raided apartment complex stunned, after recognizing one of the dead attackers, who they describe as a quiet family man. The man i know he was a wonderful guy. Reporter one woman, however, did have concerns which she claims she brought to police. All of a sudden we saw this gentleman, individual, speaking to the kids about islam, and showed them how to pray. Reporter locals showing cnn the mosque they believe one of the attackers attended. Authorities have not confirmed his identity. London police say the three attackers began their killing spree using a rented white van that sped across London Bridge around 10 00 p. M. Saturday night, plowing into pedestrians. It knocked down several people, came within about 20 yards of where i was. It knocked somebody nearly 20 feet in the air. Reporter emergency vehicles rushed to the scene, as Police Responded to more violence at Borough Market, where the attackers had driven, before getting out of the van with knives and randomly attacking people inside restaurants and cafes. There were these three men standing there, one with a machete, one saying theyre stabbing everyone. You only stepped outside the pub for a second, i man ran up, said this is for my family for islam, looked him straight in the face and stabbed him. Reporter these patrons hunkering down fearing for their lives, as others fled the scene. People were literally running away as fast as they possibly could. Reporter eight officers shot 50 rounds, taking down all three attackers, one bystander was shot in a hail of bullets. There is, to be frank, far too much tolerance of extremism in our country. Reporter britains Prime Minister condemning the terror attacks vowing a sweeping review of the countrys antiterror laws. Enough is enough. Reporter a lot of people here are hailing the heroism of britains police. One policeman who was unarmed except for his police baton actually tried to take on the attackers. Three police men were wounded and important from the time it took the moment the attack began and the moment they were dead was eight minutes. This was a rapid response, part of the reason they were so quick to use lethal force, the men were wearing fake suicide vests. Police were not to know at that time the vests were fake. 50 rounds were used and eight minutes is impressive. Claris clarissa, thank you very much. Joining me is the Deputy Assistant to President Trump sebastian gorka. Good to have you. Thanks for having me. Sean spicer, everybody else around the president scolded the media, stop calling it a travel ban this executive order. Thats not what it is, you fake news people. Then President Trump says what weve known all along, sebastian, it is a ban. He likes that its a ban. He likes the original ban and thats what he wants everybody to know. Why play the games . There are no games. The president can call it whatever he likes because he has the Constitutional Authority to control whoever comes into this country, chris. Thats his job. The constitution precedence and Administrative Law give him that right. If he wants to call it a ban hes the president , hes the chief officer of this administration and he has every right to do that. Why wasnt the administration honest about it all along . Why have sean spicer and you and everybody else say its not a ban. Its just vetting. And youre trying to make it sound like something it isnt. The president just proved what the truth is. All this has been spin, and a distraction. Why . Im not going to fall into the trap of us being the spinmeisters when cnn is one of the greatest purveyors of fake news. The fact is its been the same since the beginning from the first e. O. To the second e. O. , its one thing, chris, its about protecting americans, and if anybody out there has a problem with us trying to keep americans safe they need to look in the mirror and ask themselves whether they are the purveyors of fake news. Sebastian, it has always been about who it targets, how it targets and whether or not that is what will keep us safe, and you guys played games about it and said its not a ban. I could play you sean spicer right now, but you know its true. And then the president decides to be honest about it this morning. That is spin. You are the purveyor of spin, because that was your message, that it wasnt a ban, and it was untrue. Thats why im asking you. So i guess president obama was also a purveyor of spin with that calculation, because the executive order is based upon the obama house analysis of the seven nations of greatest concern for immigration to america. Is he a purveyor of spin, chris . Well thats an interesting question, and while i can shall. It is, isnt it . I like that you must get away from President Trump and policy as quickly as possible. Not at all. And blame obama for everything. Ill talk about it for the next hour. Im sure you would, and eloquently so. However, the facts are not your friend here, because that move with executive order from the Obama Administration was about travel to those countries. It was about whos coming in and out and why. Your order is about muslims. About targeting muslims and keeping them out. Chris, lets stop that. Allowing those who are not muslim a carveout to come in. Lets do a little 101, a little trivial pursuit. What is the most populous muslim nation in the world, chris . You tell me. These are your answers. No, you tell me the biggest muslim nation in the world. Massive population. I want to give you the opportunity. You dont know. Assume i know nothing. Go ahead. Its indonesia. I will assume you know nothing. What is the largest arab nation in the world . You tell me. Egypt. So if this had anything, and i mean anything, to do with race or religion, why would those two nations, the most populous muslim nations, and the most populous arab nation not be included on the executive order . Explain that logic to me, because this is where your spin fails. This is where the fake news propaganda collapses, because if we had some dark dread ulterior motive those are the first two nations you would put on the list, not the seven nation lgs the Obama White House identified as greatest concern. Please answer that question. I will, i will. First, what the Obama Administration did was target travel from places that were known as hubs for terror, and thats different than what youre doing, because youre targeting national. You could add saudi arabia. 15 of the herks jackers came from there. Theyre not on your list. Theres speculation as to why. Instead of looking who you didnt involve, you must look for legal and policy purposes at who you did involve, and those countries are all muslim majority. You did a carveout for nonmuslims, and thats why it got struck down originally, allegedly recognized as being overreaching by people like you, which is why you drafted a second one, which the president said he authorized and approved of, and is now before the courts for scrutiny. So the intention is clear, that you wanted to target muslims from those places. I see that youre a little slow to want to own that. No, im still waiting for you to answer why would you not include indonesia and egypt, if it was what you said it was about, those would be the logical nations to include but we didnt. How do you explain that, chris . I explain it by you going with the original model to make it easier to pass because you were mimicking what obama did and therefore masking your true intention was to not make it about travel, make it about muslims and as you well know not just in your own rhetoric but the president , he has said time and again that he thinks theres a problem with islam. And that he thinks that the muslims may have a problem with us. As you know, with what were seeing in the uk right now, attachment to the community of muslims is so important and the concern is that a move like this, trumpeted by the president in the midst of crisis in the uk sends an ugly message to our Muslim Community here in the United States. Well, unfortunately, what youve just spun is classic fake news. What is fake about what i said . What is factually inaccurate . There are no facts there. You are saying we used an obama era analysis to quote you used his executive order. To cloak our intention. Can you give me one piece of evidence for that. Yes, the language. You picked the same countries, was that a coincidence . No, because thats what government does. Government looks at analysis. You picked the same countries. Thats a fact. What is your proof we had another intent . Give me a piece of proof. The language from the president. Thats not proof. The same thing District Courts seized upon was that he clearly wants to keep muslims out of the country, right or wrong, the people voted for donald trump in part on that issue, but his intention is clear. So that must be the intention of the obama order as well. To keep muslims out of the nation. The language is different which is why it wasnt challenged in the courts the same way. It was about who is traveling in and out of there, and the potential for those governments to let or even harbor bad guys. You ar selective choice of facts is telling. We did this with iraq under the Obama Administration and the administration didnt tell anybody. Why is that . I dont know exactly about their not telling people. What i do know is that the United States administration worked very closely with iraq in particular to build up its vetting capabilities, because of the unique nature of the threat there, and thats why there was the concern, when you guys included iraq, and then you took iraq off the list, which then raised questions about security intentions because obviously you have more concerns of people coming out of iraq than the other countries. Lets get beyond your spin, lets talk about facts. I dont think its spin. I think its a little bit of logic that youre having a tough time dealing with in light of what the president said this morning. Were not hooer to discuss your spin. Were here to protect americans. Answer me this question. When the last administration forbade the state department looking at the public postings on the facebook pages of foreigners applying for visas to america, do you think that was a good move . I think that yes or no . Its not for me to opine on an administrations youre opining the whole time about the trump administration, chris. Be honest. Youre opining the whole time. Your show he is opining. I am not opining. Im asking you questions and pushing back on your own arguments and youre good at making them. The word forbade that you use is not the one that i would have use, and when you look its a good idea not to look at facebook postings. It wasnt just facebook postings. It was instant messaging which isnt public so it would have been going into her private communications. Dont change the subject. No thats a fact. Im adding a fact to what youre putting out there. But youre not answering the question. They were forbidden from looking at public facebook postings, is that smart protecting americans . Privacy is an evolving dialogue. Facebook is not private, chris. Facebook is not private. You know that, right . Twitter is not private. Instant messaging im not talking about instant messaging. Thats where the information was contained with the white house. Im asking about the regulations. Its easy to overtalk when you dont like the answer. You wont answer the question, chris, its telling. I just did. No you changed, you pivoted to messaging. Im including the salient fact for you, sebastian. But youre not answering my question. Its not about her Facebook Public posts. Its the private instant messaging. Thats a good policy. Its a good debate to have about policy as is banning mu y muslims. Its fascinating that you will go to any degree not to criticize the last administration but will opine in conspiracies it shall it. I dont think thats true at ul. Thats why your viewing figures are in attack. Were up 100 year over year. Dont let the facts get in your way. Youre good at avoiding them. Unless youre being mandatory in every airport in america youre in a tank, chris. Were up 100 so what you said is foolishly wrong. Not just abuse of fact but eight silly with its own logic. Its the cnn has benefited so greatly from the current dialogue and the demand for fact and testing power that it is demonstrable by any metric you want to use. Chris, youre just comedy now. Its just comedy. Lets put this on. You may think its getting two viewers is not a 100 increase. Thats not the numbers. Those arent the numbers involved. Chris youre playing games. Youre playing games. Good try. Good try. I give you points for that, sebastian. Next time good spin, chris. But this isnt about cnns success, because thats obvious. Its about relevance. How the president is doing and whats relevant are the tweets that the president put out this morning where he said what we believed all along and you guys have denied, which this is a ban and he put his arms around the original order which obviously targeted Muslim Populations, which is a fine political argument to make and let people judge it. We saw it play out in his response to london. Are you okay with him going at the london mayor in a time of crisis . I just find it really disappointing that not ohm did you have one of your staff on before me for several minutes as the president tweets now were eight minutes into this interview and youre doing it again. Lets talk about policy. That is the policy. His tweets are the policy. They are statements from the president of the United States. They are not policy. Its not policy. Of course it is. Its social media, chris, its social media. You know the difference, right . Its his words, his thoughts. Its not policy, its not an executive order. Its social media. Please understand the difference. I think that you need to have a little bit of an understanding here. The president says this is what i want. Youre a journalist. What do you think we shouldnt listen to what the president says . You shouldnt obsess about it for now 12 minutes, chris. If he says this is what i want to do on this particular issue, why would i say well, until he says it, i guess what, to my face that im not going to Pay Attention . Youre talking about one tweet, chris, should we spend the whole program on it . To call it a tweet is to run away from significance. It is a tweet. What else is it, a bowl of petunias . If i wrote you a letter saying one thing or i said it to your face, whats the difference . This is National Security. Thats right. Maybe you shouldnt tweet about it but he chooses to. To judge National Security in a time of things like the manchester and London Attacks based upon social media statements is irresponsible of you, chris. Irresponsible of me to report. Of you. What the president of the United States says . Its obsessed for now 20 minutes, yes, youre obsessing. I want to get this straight. I want to make sure everyone understands your point. The president of the United States decides multiple times to tell the entire world what he wants our travel policy to be with respect to these muslim countries, and youre saying ignore it, because its a tweet, and not a piece of paper that says executive order on it. Thats what youre saying . Now youre arguing from extremists and its again disappointing. Did i say ignore . I said dont obsess about it. Were 20 minutes into this and this is clearly an obsession, chris. Lets talk about the executive order and what that says, because i would love to discuss the substance of that, because thats what were doing to protect americans. But if you want to keep talking about the tweet, then youre not serving your audience well or the american public. I think im giving them exactly what they need which is the information and analysis about the heart and mind of the president youre not analyzing the facts. On an issue, listen, the fact is that he took the opportunity in the wake of london to say this is why i want the travel ban, and the original one. Youre doing it again. The one that targets muslim majority populations. Thats what he likes. It may be inconvenient for but. Thats a lie, chris, i work for the president. He didnt tweet those things . That we are targeting people based upon religion, if we were indonesia and egypt would be on the executive order. The fact you did not make it worse does not defend the original. You made a carveout for nonmuslims, thats a fact, and you should own those facts. The president is. Chris, chris, youre doing a disservice to your viewers and to america, and security of this nation. The president is interested in one thing, making sure that terrorism doesnt happen in america. Thats what the executive order is about, but if you want to keep talking about a tweet, then youre not serving that purpose either. You have responsibilities as well. A message from the president , one policy question while i have you. Its in a tweet. Another tweet now . This is crazy. Has there been other to the word to of the consulate has there been official change in policy where vetting is concerned . Well this is not the Obama Administration. We dont give away sensitive information, okay . Thats up to leakers, thats up to people who thought that you can give away your game plan, like when were going to attack isis in mosul. We dont do that. We take this stuff seriously. The procedures we are following are followed in the way the bad guys cant gain them. Dont ask me to tell what you were doing on television so the bad guys can game it. That is irresponsible, chris. Giving information as the president to the russians though about intelligence, that was okay though, right . Whats coming out of the white house on a regular basis . Chris, you are obsessed. This is amazing. Just amusing. Lets talk about National Security, not conspiracy theories. Sebastian when the president tweets what he wants out of his executive order for travel policy youre doing it again. You got to move on, chris. Sebastian, that is what it is though. It just is. Listen, i appreciate you being here to talk about it. Its a tweet. The president tweets thats method he chooses. Social media. The mind and intentions of the president , i appreciate you coming on the show to discuss your perspective. As always. Thank you, chris. You be well, sebastian gorka. You, too. We have conservative opinion writer jennifer rubewho wrote a piece for the Washington Post denouncing the president s response to the London Attack and former ambassador to russia, thomas pickering. Jennifer, just so i can understand what sbaebastian gor was saying, pay no mind to the tweets. This is a man who works for the president of the United States and theyre trying to run as far away as possible. It completely undercuts their intire spin for weeks and this is the problem with the president. Hes like the worlds worst client or the worlds worst witness. You get them all prepped to say one thing and boom, hes off and running in another direction. The problem is that we have a president who is not focused on the right things, who creates controversy, who has taken the worst possible opportunity to attack the mayor of a city that has been attacked by terrorists . Thats a serious problem. There are serious concerns about this president s mental stability. And there are Serious Problems when you have a president of the United States so erratic, so unreliable. This is damaging and the notion that what the president says and what he communicates to the world is not policy, is ridiculous. What the president says matters. It does make policy and if youre afraid for the president to use social media, take it away from him. Ambassador, should the president s tweets on the travel ban, et cetera, et cetera, matter . Of course they should, and District Courts and the courts of apeel have already decided that they do, so i think for the judicial process, on which were about perhaps to go to another higher step thats undoubtedly true. I agree with what jennifer has had to say. She and i dont agree on everything but on this one she certainly reflects the views that i have that you cant have a president one day says tweets are not germane, what i say doesnt count, but on the other hand a whole tradition of 230 years of experience where what the president says is u. S. Policy, and its lunatic to believe in fact that people can look at the president and somehow divide does he have a green light above his head on the tweet that says this is policy and a red light that says it isnt . We have no possible way of knowing. Its kind of what i would call studied lunacy, if thats what we expect to have in terms of a president who one day is obviously reflecting the policy, the next day is reflecting some personal hangup, that shouldnt be counted at all. The president has access to the media because hes president and what he says in the media counts and words mean something. What the president says means something, or it doesnt, if you listened to his staff some days. Some days they say the tweets speak for themselves. Some days they say may no mind to those tweets. Theyre just social media. Hardy har. Its very hard to know which ones to take seriously. Jennifer, you had a very i think strong response to the president s response to the london terror attacks. You write this in the Washington Post, sure, trumps policies and rhetoric are incoherent and based on a tower of lies, far worse however is his appalling character, which accelerates the erosion of democratic norms and social cohesion, a diverse democracy requires. The London Attacks bring out the best in britain and in western leaders on the european continent, it brings out the worst in trump and his followers. But jennifer, just to push back on you, he didnt offer condolences first. Condolence, maybe those are cold comfort at this point. Maybe people want to hear what the president is going to do. He talked about his travel ban and his political agenda instead of condolences. This is not the whafor of an ally. What you do when an ally is stricken by a terrible, terrible attack is you do express con condolen condolences. It does matter, it demonstrate tops the world we stand shoulder to shoulder with britain who was arguably our closest ally. Secondly it was not a sin of omission but sin of comission overand over again. Why would he use that as a political opportunity to push his political agenda which is the travel ban which has nothing directly to do with the attack. We dont even know where those people were british citizens or not and likewise, when he goes on about we have to get smart. Were not doing this, its like hes not president of the United States. If he thinks theres something that were not doing and were not smart enough, where is the evidence that he has changed policy that he has adopted policies that are improved from the last president . So its his tone, his vulgarity, his lack of selfcontrol. That communicates something to the international community, it communicates that america is unreliable, is off kilter, is a little looney right now, and i think its incredibly difficult and at the same time were asking our allies to do a lot of things for us, join the war on isis, share intelligence, perhaps reinstate some sanctions against iran. Why would they do us a favor, if this is how we behave in an emergency . It makes no sense. Ambassador, the president seems to think that his travel ban is the best step that he can take towards protecting the u. S. Do you agree . No, i dont, and i think i need to pick up on some of the things that jennifer just said at the enld. The president doesnt think strategically. Three years ago when isis became in fact the ruling organization in Northern Iraq and northeastern syria, we were totally concerned with the calipha caliphate. That was a reasonable concern, and we mobileized the military force to deal with it but we forgot the fact that as the caliphate began to crumble and its taken more time than id like, isis reached out in a kind of way beginning to build rantly new franchises around the world and to attack us in our homeland, but to attack our allies, who were admittedly perhaps more vulnerable in their homeland and this is clearly something that strengthening the Intelligence Community and strengthening our Police Cooperation and the linkage of intelligence and police plays a huge role in. It isnt bans on large segment of the Muslim Population of the world, which as we all know only increases the recruitment potential of Something Like daesh or isis to build strength in the franchises so were facing a kind of alternative form of warfare, and as isis loses on the ground in syria and iraq, it turns increasingly to the new form of publicizing itself, the new form of affecting the work the west. Perhaps a new form even of affecting Election Outcomes which is very worrying and seems to me the muslim ban in the six or seven countries plays entirely in their hands. Were not playing smart cards at all. I love the word smart but i wish he would listen to himself. Thank you very much for your perspectives. Nice to be here. Thank you. I guess its somewhat of an interesting question. Donald trumps tweets, are they official white house statements . Are they policy . Are they somehow something less than, because theyre on social media . That will be part of our bottom line on this, and the london terror attack. We have fareed zakaria, some great perspective, coming up. No to inspect difficulttoreach pipelines, so we can detect leaks before humans can see them. Because safety is never being satisfied. And always working to be better. [vo] what made secretariat the grwho ever lived . E of course he was strong. Intelligent. Explosive. But the true secret to his perfection. 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He contradicted his Administration Officials who have been telling us for months, its not a ban. Its not a ban. He says it is. He says it in all caps, he says it multiple times and he says thats what he wants and he wants the original. This is done in the context of the president being under attack for going after londons mayor in the midst of crisis. What is the bottom line here . Cnn host fareed zakaria, the first question is the easiest. The idea that if the president tweets it, you shouldnt obsess over it. You shouldnt take it as policy even though weve been told time and again his tweets speak for themselves. Which is it . Without any question youre right. The platform you use is irrelevant. Winston churchill used radio, because it was the most widely disseminated platform at the time. Nobody said well churchills speeches on radio were not British Government policy because he didnt say them in parliament or they didnt have the seal of the queen of england, no. That was the mechanism he used to announce government policy. Donald trump has used social media and in particular hes used twitter, tweeting as the president of the United States. Hes tweeting from the potus account. How else can one take it . It seems almost absurd to claim this doesnt matter, and when he deviates from policy, it is consequential. For example, we now know from a political story that his aides had written into his speech to nato that he would affirm article five, that is the all for one, one for all, selfdefense statement. Trump refused to say it, changed it at the last minute. When the president personally does something it makes a huge difference. All of europe is aghast that the president didnt affirm that. Its consequential what the president personally chooses to emphasize and not emphasize this and he does it repeatedly in tweets. It would be saying if the president went to the rose garden and made a speech, dont pay any attention to it. I dont know what one is supposed to Pay Attention to, legislation that has his signature on it . Were agreed tweets are official president ial statements. In terms of deviating from policy, hard to know what his policy is, in terms of immigration and the travel ban, because we hear Different Things but today, the official president ial statement is that yes, in fact, it is a travel ban, taken also just seems that this is how the president believes he can best keep america safe. This is what he thinks the answer i actually dont think that. I think he thinks it the best way to convince his base, perhaps more than his base, that he is tough on terrorism. I think that the travel ban is a nonsense solution to a nonproblem. The vast majority of terrorist attacks in europe and the United States are local, home growns, almost always citizens. You face indoctrination, ideology. The problem is not someone coming in on a visa. All the research and evidence suggests what youre saying but thats not the evidence and research the president is basing it on. He feels there is a threat coming in from abroad and this is how hes going to solve it. I think it appeals to peoples emotional sense that hes getting tough on terror. He knows it plays well politically. I think that even the president knows that its as i say soluti nonproblem. Look at sebastian gorka, ostensibly erudite man, condescending because he knows so much and we know so little. What does he say, obea ma did. We could have picked egypt and indonesia, basically saying we could have been knead worse but that doesnt defend that this order is very different from obamas in terms of focusing on who travels where. Its who comes from where but he struggled to the extent that all he could do was attack me and cnn. Not a good sign for defending it in court. And thats the real problem is in court. The courts have already as Tom Pickering said, taken into account president ial statements of all kinds to determine intent, what is the intent of this policy again come back to the countries and the ban itself. The kato institute, Libertarian Institute did a study looked back to 1975 of the countries included in the travel ban not a single nationalist associated with an attack on the United States since 1975. The sort of empty nature of this policy is beginning to get more and more exposure that it doesnt solve anything. The fundamental reason the United States has done better than europe is that it has assimilated Muslim Population that is patriotic. The most important thing therefore would seem to be to reassure that Muslim Population that they are part of the country, they shouldnt feel alienated. Everything trump does works in the opposite direction. Fareed zakaria thank you very much for the bottom line. Appreciate it. 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Well there were protests in the town of dara for basically democratic reforms, and the Police Arrested teenage boys who sprayed antiassad graffiti on the walls of their school, arrested them and tortured them and their parents took to the streets demanding the release of their children and that was what got it started. Incredible. Nick, what is the status of life for people who were caught inside that situation right now . In syria . Umhum. I mean i think you are seeing Islamic State being pushed further and further back, so when you see the front line moving, you see theres almost a euphoria when the front line moves and theyre liberated, so we spent some time in Northern Iraq and saw how relieved people were, and how happy they were to tell their stories when they were liberated, so its a good thing and the Islamic State is facing military defeat, one of the reasons i think the attacks will become more prevalent. Thats the good news bad news story. Theyre facing defeat but doesnt feel like it when you have the three attacks in london, britain in three months. Its important to keep all of this in perspective. Its hard to know the perspective. Yes, theyre losinger itter to but its not stopping people from mowing down innocent people in their cars. Well thats the ideological point of view, you can win on the battlefield i think the western powers will win eventually but how do you fight the ideological fight . As people have said before, you cant implement policies that alienate muslims. Its unfair to the many good muslims in the world but also galvanizes the aggress of some people who are willing to become terrorists. Its a dangerous thing to do. Sebastian, i followed you for years. You have made this case time and again about winning the peace. The u. S. Military might have the allies and the joint forces, incontrovertible evidence they will win eventually on the ground, but then what . What do people learn in this documentary about the answer to that question . Well, we explain how the civil war started, and took on a moment up of its own. We talk about how chaos leads to radicalism, which is very dangerous. You cant let the somalis and the afghanistans of the world go on in chaos forever. The whole world would be affected but eventually you have to come to some accommodation with a situation on the ground and i think its extremely important that this country for our own moral purposes that we be a haven for refugees who are fleeing war, good people with families and children that we be seen as a sort of beacon of light on the hill, that will take people in. I think that will go a very long way towards blunting some of the aggression that inspires these terrorists. What a study in contrast were dealing with this morning with the president using the london event as a catalyst to double down on what his executive order about travel is all about. What is his taking on taking to twitter to make pronouncements hey, i want that original ban. I want it the way its always been, and its a ban. Im not an expert on it but it seems to be he is send a message to his base rather than addressing a change of policy as a threat to our nation. Nick, you were able to get cameras in to families in syria and they were able to videotape their lives and the hell on earth that they are experiencing and i think you have Something Like 1,000 hours of footage. We have a little clip of that. Lets play that. Oh my gosh nick thats remarkable. Seeing their little childrens faces filled with apprehension, excitement, not knowing whats next. Tell us about that moment. Well, we asked the family to film themselves, so we gave them a little cheat sheet, like a twopage document, like turn the phone this way, because you know, cell phones even in syria are pretty much ubiquitous, theyre everywhere. They could take the cell phones out in the nonisis controled areas and not change the way people behave. It almost like being there yourself. So they were crossing out of isis territory into free syria and eventually into turkey. They were crossing an isis checkpoint at that moment. You look at the little faces, sebastian, what do you ask yourself about their future . Well theyre children, like children everywhere in the world, they deserve to have a future. These children have not been able to be educated. Their lives are in danger. Its absolutely tragic. Guy, thank you very much for sharing it with us. Watch hell on earth the fall of syria and the rise of isis when it premieres sunday 9 00 p. M. Eastern on the National Geographic channel. Cnn newsroom with john berman picks up right after the break. Moms know their kids need love, encouragement and milk. With 8 grams of natural protein, and 8 other nutrients to provide balanced nutrition. 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