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Disney world resort is devastated by this tragic accident. Our thoughts are with the family. We are helping the family and doing everything we can to assist Law Enforcement. Reporter with each passing hour, a harsh reality is setting in for rescuers desperately trying to find this young boy. Were not leaving until we recover the child. Reporter it has just been a rough couple of days here for the city of orlando. Our crew arrived here saturday morning to cove the tragic shooting of christina grimmie, the voice contestant murdered at the end of a concert, then sunday, woke up to the deadliest mass shooting in history and now facing this. Another tragedy. Very, very difficult time ts fo this community, alisyn. Boris, you said it. Can you not underscore in rapid succession theyve had the worst things happen in this city. So thank you for that reporting. We will bring you live coverage from Police Provide an youp dupn the search for this missing boy. We hope to get information from police in just minutes. Obviously, talking about disney world because of the shooting at the nightclub over our shoulder and sure enough the investigation is looking at that location. They believe that the gunman, the murderer, from this gay nightclub was there on several occasions, maybe doing surveillance trips, and the question becomes, why . And more importantly, who know . The focus is the deranged gunmans wife. What did she know and as a result investigators are threatening to charge the wife with a crime most of you have probably never heard of. Bring in National Security expert jim sciutto with more. This has been involved, this investigation and now more Energy Around the wife. No question. She knew her husband was interested in carrying out a jihadist attack and tried to stop him and has been, went to some of the sites including the pulse nightclub. At the time she said she didnt know she was targeting them for attack. Are investigators satisfied . Ats they point they are not. The investigation into her is still ongoing but we know she is still a focus. Did you know your husband was going to do this . Reporter zeroing in on mateens wife. She knew her husband was interested in carrying out a jihadist attack. She has been very cooperative with authorities. Reporter she denies knowing anything about the pulse nightclub as a target for the massacre. Do you think that your daughterinlaw here helped your son commit this crime . I dont think so. Reporter authorities are now looking into whether she should face charges for knowing about his intentions but not telling police. This as were getting our first look inside the couples apartment. Clothes and childrens toys scattered on the floor. Investigators seizes Electronic Devices from the home as new evidence is emerging that suggests the gunman may have considered other targets. Suffice it sow say he had probed multiple locations before he chose that, that spot. Reporter cnn has learned he visited this disney Shopping Complex as well as the pulse nightclub, all at the gippingbe the june. His wife traveled with him and attending day gays, attracting thousands lgbt people to disney parks. Disney officials told the fbi they believe he was scouting when he visited there with his wife in april as well. We are trying to understand his travels in the recent past. Reporter the june scouting missions around the same time he purchased the gun he used to carry out the attack. This as were hearing from First Responders at the nightclub. I wont forget the steady pow, pow, pow. Reporter the lieutenant at the club just a few hundred feet away describes the hundreds trying to escape the barrage of bullets. Groups of people in front of the fire station, hiding behind the wall, crying and screaming. Kind of sick to think about it, but each time hes shooting, hes shooting somebody in there, and whats more, going about his business as methodically at gun range. Reporter and were learning new information about what the killer did in the days leading up to the attack. On may 29th, the killer went and donated blood in fort pierce, florida, not far from here, just days before he carried out an attack that killed 49 people. In this expanding but increasi g increasingly complex of this, police trying to answer so many questions at this pour. Stay with us. We want to bring in arthur broderick, our cnn law analyst and assistant director of the u. S. Martials office, former. If the wife knew that her husband was interested in carrying out some sort of terror attack, what can she be charged with . Misprision of a felony and conspiracy. At this point, into day four, the case is well under control by the fbi and the u. S. Attorneys office. All of these charges will be federal. Shes looking at some serious time here, obviously because of the crime committed, but i think theyre very suspicious of the information shes putting forward where shes trying to minimize her involvement in this whole case. Theyre trying to squeeze her. Weve had early indications, theyre talking to her, they want to figure out who it is, the family. Routine. Misprision of a felony is not just of interest to lawyers. That law, ive never heard of it being applied in any of these cases. Its off the books in just about every state. Its, you have a legal responsibility to tell authorities if you know a felony is going to be committed. Most states dont have that anymore. For them to use that crime is that and indication theyre putting the squeeze on her and any counsel around her to let them know theyre serious . Exactly what theyre doing. Pressuring her to make sure shes telling the truth, coming forward with as much information as she can and this is a usual tactic used at this point four days into the investigation. This is important beyond this particular investigation, youll hear from from Law Enforcement all the time. They need the help of muslim, including the family. If you see something, hear something, Say Something. You dont want to antagonize the communities either. Its a tough balance. The implications of this go far beyond this one case. That brings us to his father. His father has been talking, a lot, to the media. His father says that he saw the killer at 3 00 p. M. The day of the attack. What do you think theyre doing, investigators, with the father . Doing the same thing theyre doing with the wife. I mean, the father seems to be talking quite a bit. When is unusual. Ive seen some of the conversations hes had, im not sure how much information he can xpli. He says he knew nothing. His son was a good kid. If hed have known something he would have done something. This is a very tight family, from what weve seen. He knows something. Whether hes going to admit to it or not, you know, he could be facing charges also. The suggestion would be he may have known something about his sons state of mind. Nobodies saying he knew anything about the incidental of the attacks. One of the reasons he talks a lot, he talks a lot. He does tapes on line about internal politics of afghanistan. He is a talker in the media in general. But with this investigation, to jims tough, this is a tough balancesing act for them. Theyre concerned, who might have helped him . One of the reasons youre looking at the wife, going on trips with him, they dont live here. He live in port st. Lucie. Going on his with these trips and had suspicions, what else was there . Who else had suspicions and may have given him materiel support. Helped with with the guns. How did he pay for the two trips to saudi arabia . Pilgrimages . Theyre looking at this. They have his laptop and discovering details about financial transactions. Theyll find out whos on the other end of this transactions as well. An af15, theyre not cheap . Another development, of course, is that he might have been casing disney world . Yes. So they now think that he visited there in april. Is that right . More than once, frankly. The Disney Springs resort, which is a Downtown Disney property here. Its actually interesting, does not have the same security precautions. Recently they installed metal detectors, et cetera. Disney springs does not. He went there, went to the resort itself with his family in april. Do you think they can get her for conspiracy . Misprision of felony, they have to show knowledge. Nots an easy crime to prove. One of the reasons you never hear it. Conspiracy relatively easy to prove in the federal system. Doesnt take a lot. The mere fact he told her he wanted to do this jihadist act and possibly if they can show she had driven somewhere to pick up something, did an overt act, as they say, thats enough for conspiracy. Another aspect of the investigation, all the pictures of the beautiful kids room and toys, that kid is in play as well. What happens to a child from a family like this . Thank you for all the information. President obama, meanwhile, and Hillary Clinton, they are teaming up against donald trump, they say over his rhetoric around the terror attack. But trump is fighting back. So what can we expect today . Think fixing your windshield is a big hassle . Not with safelite. This family needed their windshield replaced, but theyre daughters heart was set on going to the zoo. So we said if you need safelite to come to the zoo well come to the zoo only safelite can fix your windshield anywhere in the us. With our exclusive mobileglassshops. 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Good morning, joe. Reporter good morning, alisyn. Goes to show the massacre in orlando is now front and center in the race for the white house, and whats so remarkable about this is that president obama himself has now stepped into the back and forth. His angry response to Donald Trumps attacks in concert with a speech by Hillary Clinton and now we have trumps rebuttal last night, just the latest signs that theres a bitter period ahead in u. S. Politics between now and november. Donald trump going after president obama. I watched president obama today. And he was more angry at me than he was at the shooter. Reporter accusing the president of being angrier at him than the man who carried out the terror attack at a gay nightclub in orlando. The level of anger, thats the kind of anger he should have for the shooter and these killers that shouldnt be here. Reporter trump lashing out just hours after president obamas fiery speech defending his strategy against isis, and his refusal to use the term radical islam. Thats the key, they tell us. We cant beat isil unless we call them radical islam i69s. What exactly would using this label accomplish . What exactly would it change . Theres no magic to the phrase radical islam. Its a political talking point. Its not a strategy. Reporter the president s speech, his sharpest rebuke against the presumptive president ial nominee, slamming his rhetoric as dangerous and unamerican. Thats not the america we want. It doesnt reflect our democratic ideals. It wont make us more safe. It will make us less safe. Reporter flanked by his National Security council including the joint chiefs of staffs, planning to ban muslims moving into the u. S. And the leadership left squirmish under trumps views. Painting all muslims with a broad brush and imply that we are at war with an entire religion, then we are doing the terrorists work for them. Reporter trump appears unimpressed. Nobody at that speech understand anything other than, boy, does he hate donald trump. Reporter democrats mounting a calculated onetwo punch. What donald trump is saying is shameful. Reporter with Hillary Clinton simultaneously unleashing her rebuke of trump in pittsburgh. Donald suggests i wont call this threat what it is, he hasnt been listening. But i will not demonize and declare war on an entire religion. Reporter clinton also denouncing trumps conspiracy theories about president obama after the terror attack as shameful. Even in a time of divided politics, this is way beyond anything that should be said by someone running for president. Reporter almost lost in all of this is the fact that the democratic primary season quietly came to a close last night with Hillary Clinton winning the last contest in the district of columbia. She and her democratic opponent Bernie Sanders met and talked last night in washington, flanked by Campaign Aides on both sides. Bernie sanders has not conceded the race. Chris . Joe, as you know, there had been talk bernie might have done very well there. Senator sanders, obviously, momentum has shifted. The implications today. Ben ferguson and vicari sellars join us. Host of the ben ferguson show and vicari a Hillary Clinton supporter. Now, this general election as it shapes up will become about moments, and tests of these two and how they respond. We saw it with judge curiel. We now have polls coming out of that snaincident that do not reflect whats happened here in orlando. Put up the bloomberg number, theres a change. Clinton popping up. 4937. 9, gary johnson. The third party libertarian, obviously. So the state of play after orlando. Ben, do you believe that this is a situation that should be playing well for donald trump . And do you believe that it is playing well . Well, i think most americans, as you see in these polls have have come out, trust donald trump more on National Security than Hillary Clinton. To prove that point, look at the rhetoric yesterday. A president that comes out on a simultaneous attack on donald trump and say donald trump is dangerous, unfit to be president. A simple time making it clear this disdain for donald trump. I wish they would use that exact same focus when talking about isis and terrorists whether homegrown or foreign, and i think the American People see this. You have a president that literally said, im not calling them islamic terrorists because its just rhetoric but uses the same, tough language when talking about donald trump as if its somehow different. Why cant it be the same focus on both issues . I just wish Hillary Clinton yesterday would have been as focused on isis as she is on donald trump. I mean, that whats your response to that . That argument was ludicrous. The reason you cant use that same language refers to islam, you cant bastardize an entire religion. I said radicalism. I understand. You know you need them in this fight against terror. Back to this poll, what you see is that americans, ever since Hillary Clinton has began to frame donald trump with that speech in san diego, showing that he was temperamentally unfit, showing that hes a loose cannon. You just dont know what hes going to say, and youre seeing that again over and over again. I feel bad for paul ryan in a proverbial pretzel every time trump has something to say. The key point, a very high number of women in the country who say they could never vote for donald trump. I think what were seeing right, but what were seeing right no is donald trump yeah, im going to bring you in, ben. Okay. I got you, but remember, this is one moment in time. Thats why we look at polls for that. They dont tell us where were going to be going forward. Ben, to your point, ive heard you make the case that bakari is caking against donald trump in the primaries. What is giving you new confidence in his competence . I think he understands the threat to the country and willing to call that threat what it actually is. The same way that barack obama and Hillary Clinton are so focused on, they say the threat of donald trump. Donald trump has clarity here, and hes honest with us. We have a problem with islamic extremism in this country. Hes willing to talk about the mosque that helped i think probably radicalize this individual and the only other american suicide bomber that went overseas and blew himself up. That you cant be politically correct when dealing with people will be to blow themselves up and go on rampages in this way. And yet yesterday, the only focus point we saw from Hillary Clinton was an attack on donald trump. Not on the extremists, not on the terrorist. Let me be clear. Bakari tried to make it sound like i was saying earlier all muslims were bad . No. I made it very clear and so is donald trump on this one. There is a radical islamic extremist problem and when the president talks about that he mocks at his talking points. This is real tear arrorism and people die from it. You guys are taking too long to make simple points. Lets try to advance the conversation. Thats what the president said he was trying to do yesterday, bakari, explain why he didnt want to blame an entire faith, stick with the threat and obviously knows the threat, hes been fighting it so intensely. A lot of people came away from it the way ben ferguson is coming away from it. Didnt quite get them where they needed to be in terms of feeling he was all over this threat and angry about it. I dont think theres any doubt our president of the United States is angry or doubt that our president of the United Statess heart is broken over the 49 people massacred in orlando, but the president also understands that donald trump no longer speaks as just some billionaire from queens running for president of the United States. He actually is a standard bearer for one of largest Political Parties in our country and views donald trump for what he is. An existential threat to this country not helping this discussion out. Further, if were going to have this discussion, chris, how do we move the ball forward when addressing terrorism . Its not about the verbiage. You dont see people going back and calling dylann roof a radical christian, or radical christianity. That doesnt address the problem. Its a problem of gun control and one even more specific we have to deal with, which is isil and isis being able to radicalize over the airwaves, ben, bakari, important conversation to have. Appreciate it, as always. A lot of breaking news this morning. Not just the turns in the investigation here in orlando but this other horrible story coming out of this area. This family from nebraska was on vacation at disney world. The happiest place on earth, and their 2yearold is playing around by a lagoon, and an alligator comes out of nowhere and takes the kid. Now theyre searching for the child. The parents got involved, trying to fight. We have animal experts trying to help us understand how this could happen, next. Or a man of culture whos out for adventure. You know when to hit the scene. Or get far away from it. Because its all about striking. The perfect form. Beat yesterday with fenix 3 hr. From garmin. Theres a situation going on right now here in orlando. Weve been telling you about it. This family from nebraska, their toddler was taken by an alligator at disney world. The toddler was wading along, just the very edge of a lagoon, and there were signs up that said, no swimming. As we understand it, not signs that said alligator infested. Here is the Sheriff Holding a press conference. Lets listen. I dont know if we can hear him yet. Trying to get the latest. Theyre searching for the child. Confusion what they think theyll gore theyre going to find. Lets find out. Public Information Officer nick, executive director of florida fish and wildlife conservation. Nick wiley. Is everyone ready . Anyone not ready . Go ahead. Last night maultiple authorities searched the lake to no avail. The 2yearold child has not been located. We kept multiple deputies on scene noev overnight. More coming in this morning, fresh eyes to give another fresh look at the water. Well have deputies in the air as well. We will continue this still as a search and rescue operation. Still a search and rescue operation. We are very hopeful, hoping for the best. Sometimes you get the worst, but were certainly hoping for the best. Counselors and victim advocates remain with the family through the night and are still there with them today and im sure that will take place over the next several days. We will continue the search with the cooperation of the florida fish and Wildlife Commission, and right now were going to bring in fresh eyes, some additional personnel to continue with the search. As you know, it took place last night at about 9 00 p. M. We received this call. The fish and Wildlife Commission showed up as did others. We determined this 2yearold child was playing at the edge of the water, a foot or so into the water, when this alligator came up, attacked the child. The father did his best. Tried to rescue the child, however, to no avail. There was a lifeguard on duty as well. The lifeguard, however, was not able to render much aid, too far away, apparently, and the gator swam away with the child, unfortunately. As i said, we have not been able to locate that child. We will continue the search throughout the course of the evening. Im going to turn it over to mr. Wiley from fish and wildlife for more perspective. Thank you and we appreciate Orange County Sheriffs Department and how you responded in our partnership and, first, our thoughts and prayers are with the family and we do want to keep hope and we want to continue doing everything possible, state and county government, working to find this young child, and we are going to do everything we can to support them and also support our partners here at disney. What can you tell us about the last time there was report of a gator in the were dont have details on the latest report. We know that, we work very closely with disney to remove nuisance alligators readily as their observed and recorded. So we have a very good, close relationship, working relationship with them in that regard. How often do you do that . Its hard to say. Its still early and were really focused on trying to find that little boy. What about the signs talking about in general. Its not common. Rare for people to be attacked by alligators. Its very rare in florida or anywhere where you find alligators. Hows the Family Holding up . And from the [ inaudible ] was the boy allowed to be in the water . [ inaudible ]. Im really not familiar with what the rules are in that regard. The sign says, no swimming. The only alert is no swimming. No other sign that alerts for anything else other than no swimming. So why is there a lifeguard . He was on the edge of the water. No swimming. My understanding, he was not swimming. How likely was the gator was anywhere near or do they generally travel we have alligators in all freshwater across florida. You could encounter an alligator they move around. They move around. So its really hard to say that one would be there at in particular amount of time. Theres a sign for no swimming. How often does that occur . Im not familiar with the parameters for swimming or not swimming in that area. Again, were still focused on trying to find that young boy. How likely is it youll be able to find this gator anywhere near here, or the child . Im optimistic well find well have some success, but it may take some time. And the attacked recently, the people [ inaudible ]. Its too early to get into those kind of speculations about what may have happened. We still just need to focus on trying to find the child. And you are saying that youre hopeful, obviously, everyone hopes this turns out [ inaudible ] the sheriff last night was talking about realistic issues, though. Realistically, this is not looking good. Am i correct . This many hours afterwards . Youre asking a Fourth Quarter question in the first quarter. Embryonic early searches of this. At this particular point in time were not focused on whats the outcome going to be. Right now were searching hopefully for a little boy to bring a family some comfort. Were not talking about what may happen down the road. Were focusing on the here, the now, the today. Thats where we are today. Were not going any further than that. How long [ inaudible ]. All right. Listening to a press conference there with fish and wildlife authorities as well as the sheriff there. They dont have much information at this no. Trying to keep hope look, a great disposition to have. Im sure people are managing the expectations of this family, but theres just no good news that can come out of this. We want to bring in jeff corwin, animal expert and host of abcs ocean mysterys host. Jeff what a sickening story to wake up to. The idea this family was, on the edge of this lagoon. It was a lagoon at their hotel. It was a manmade lagoon. How surprising is it that there was an alligator in there . Oh, my goodness. This is just absolutely gut wrenching, and it is surprising that so close to a highly regulated area that this could happen, but keep in mind, that today there are many, many millions of alligators in florida. The walt disney complex is gigantic. It consists of thousands of acres. A lot of that is remote, inaccessible brush, swamps and riverlets. Its not impossible for a large gator or even a medium sized gator to be under the radar screen and sort of find its way into the scenario. What really surprises me is im hearing that this alligator was under six feet. It is very rare for an alligator just a couple of meters in length to attack a human being, but a child is very small. So, also, jeff, help people understand what this father was up against. This, you know, is you put it any way you want. If youre a parent, this is one of those scenarios where you wonder what youd do if you were ever in the situation. Once this alligator gets ahold of the child, what are you up against in trying to get it back . Chris, when human beings often find themselves, hopefully rarely find themselves in this situation, what kicks in is the anonomic fight and flight complex. It will not impossible to manage an alligator five or six feet, but you have to know what youre doing. And alligators are incredibly determined predators. Theyre pound per pound square inch of pressure, chris, in their jaws is many thousands of pounds. So it is almost impossible to physically open up an alligators jaw once its exercised and closed down the abductor muscle. Incredibly strong animal and once it goes into predatory mode, its really hard to manage. I cant imagine the terror on these peoples minds trying to manage this. Jeff, we just heard the authorities there at fish and wildlife saying they were hopeful they would find the boy. Obviously, they were not saying they would find him alive but hopeful and still searching, and what do you think the chances are that they will find the boy . I think the chances are good that they will find remains of this this terrible tragedy, and this poor child. Theyre on site. They know where this happened. Again, children are very, very small. This is a 2yearold child. Youre talking about a human being weighing 15, 20 pounds. It is not impossible there are other gators in this area. As the fish and wildlife officer mentioned, oftentimes an area is where you have human beings and known alligators that will often remove those alligators when they become big enough to pose as a threat. Clearly, this did not happen. A lot of times in florida, people becoming too comfortable. See the baby alligator which they go down to the fishing hole. They field the ducks, feed the alligator. The alligators becomes very familiar, in the past, this is how tragedies happen. Not to is a thats what happened here. This is still search and rescue. Lets see what happens with that. No reason to speculate. It only goes in a bad direction. Lets look at the situation of why this happened. Okay. It says, no swimming. This is a place where you can hang out there. Ive been on vacation at the grand floridian. People go from all over the world. Says no swimming but theres a lifeguard. Why . Legally they probably know, foreseeable, people will ignore the sign, and disney knows to have a lifeguard there. Should people say, no alligators . Is that the situation you would expect . I imagine in this situation so close, i believe to the grand floridian hotel, i think in a situation like this, they probably managed this lagoon. I also believe, correct me if im wrong, that this is a manmade lagoon. A manmade aquatic structure. I think they were on this and had not seen anything that posed as a significant threat. Also, it is not impossible for alligators to be in ambush predators. Often wait at the edge of the waterline with their bodies, a 12,foot alligators can be completely submerged with only about three inches of its eyes above the water and will sit and wait and ambush their predator, and drag it to a watery grave. And that is often how these animals will get raccoons, deer, birds. And in this case, this child was not swimming in the water, it could be very well how he was tragically dispatched. Oh, my gosh. Jeff corwin, thank you very much for giving us all of your expertise with this unfolding disaster that obviously we will bring all the developments to the viewers. Thank you so much, jeff. Hearts go out to these parents. Young parents from nebraska. They got a little girl and a little boy and now just waiting like everybody else. Back to the story that we have been here days covering nap is the attack that happened at the pulse nightclub behind us. Were learning so much more about the victims including this couple whose love inspired everyone. They sound like a remarkable couple. Now they will be buried together. Were going to tell their heartbreaking yet inspiring story. It was told to us exclusively by ten of their best friends. Thats coming up, next. Wanna drink more water . With sodastream you turn plain water into sparkling water in seconds. And because its so delicious, youll drink 43 more water every day. Sodastream. Love your water. Dinner may i be excused . Get the new xfinity tv app and for the First Time Ever stream live tv, watch on demand, and download your dvr shows anywhere. It is hard to get your mind around the enormity of the loss here at the pulse nightclub that you see behind me. 49 separate lives lost. And weve been learning about the special details of each one of those lives. Now, two of the victims seemed to be best known for their love of each other. I sat town for an exclusive interview with ten friends of christopher drew leinonen, known at drew, and juan ramon guerrero. The friends told us about how that love between them inspired all of them. But their story starts with the terror and chaos at the nightclub. How many of you were in the club that night . Okay. What happened, brandon . I think we were ready to leave. It was about time to close, but their favorite thing to do is dance and eric and i had to go to the bathroom so we let them know we would go to the bathroom and be right back. And we went to the bathroom and thats when we heard the first shots fired. And at first we didnt know what was happening and kind of looked at each other and said what is that . I was like, im not sure. It sounds like the music is broken or something. And then people started piling in the bathroom. And you could smell this scent of blood and smoke and and then my eyes got really big and i looked and said we have to leave, we have to get out of here. And they wanted to stay in the bathroom, and people were kind of debating back and forth about what we should do, but i thought it was not safe. So we all grabbed hands and ran for the door as fast as we could and we didnt look for anybody, we didnt want to see anything, we just ran for the door. I remember being in the corner. I had a woman to the left of me crouched down. Brandon was on the other side. And once everything, like once everything stopped, and everyone started to peek out, thats when everything started again, and then we all just ran. And just tried y to get away that circle of us, trying to look around making sure everybody with us was still there. Doing a head check. It wasnt until we got, maybe, like two blocks away that i turned to eric and i said theyre still in there. And i wanted to go back so bad. But it was too late by then. So in the chaos, you didnt know where they were . Do you remember the place that you last saw them, or what you were last doing when you were all together . Yeah. I remember actually right before we made it to the dance floor. We were standing outside. And we were all chatting with each other, having, like, sentimental time, because when drew has a couple drinks he feels like getting sentimental, and he turned to me and in the last conversation we had, he said, you know, something we never do enough is tell each other that we love each oh. So i just want to tell you that i love you so much. Almost like he knew what was going to happen, but he didnt, and i says, ah, youre being cheesy. He said, no, but i really love you, and we just hugged for a minute. I said, i love you, too, and then we went inside to dance. Did you know or did you see that juan was taken to the hospital . Were you aware of that . We didnt see him. But i had another friend who was inside the club that id seen that night, and i just said, you know, did you see anything . Have you seen anyone . He said, i think i saw juan. And i said, is he okay . And he said, i dont know. Hes on a stretcher. I know hes been shot. And i said, please tell me youve seen drew. He said, i havent seen drew. We just waited all night, and he didnt see anything. Drew, correct me if im wrong, was one of last people, his whereabouts to be known. For all of you, what wases that like . Frustrating. Angry. I just dont understand why him of all people would be released last when so many people know who he is. So many people had his picture. Multiple pictures. Multiple accounts. It doesnt make any sense to me. Why would you leave my friend inside of a club over a day deceased and not let us know whats where he is . If hes in there. We didnt know if he was one of the people comatose or being worked on. There was no word. I think the most difficult thing for us was seeing all of our friends from around the country at candlelight vigils leaving a space for both of them and we still have a tiny shred of hope that he might be okay. Right. Uhhuh. And were just holding each other for so long, just praying. Hours and hours and hours passed and finally one lichtest names of people at another hospital and one of the lockelo moments of my life. No drew, no juan and after hearing from brandon that he heard from his friend that juan was taken in, we all naively thought he would saurvive. Juan is okay. Hes at the hospital, going to be okay and juans name was one of the first people that died. I couldnt believe it. None of us could. So that, that 24 hours or more when you didnt know what was up, was there a klimmer eg hope . How were you processing all this all that time when you didnt know . I think one of the hardest parts about that was on social media a lot of people were speculating and even news outlets releasing their own opinions. One minute we would hear official he was among the deceased and the next minute we would hear, no. Hes okay. Someone saw him. Hes posted hes posted from his account on social media. Someone even said at one point. Yeah, just like roller coaster of emotion. Thinking, one minute youre telling yourself, i have to come to terms that my best friend is gone. And then the next minute youre telling yourself, but he could be there. We could hold out hope. Maybe dropped his phone. You start rationalizing it. You drive yourself absolutely crazy. This is just an incredibly closeknit group of friends, and they described drew, who they lost, as sort of the center of the spoke. You know, he was such a connector, and that love that the couple had, they talked about which well play for you coming up from an an hour from now what that meant. Their relationship. Also i should mention the friends have a gofundme page they put together to pay for the funerals and for counseling and things like that. Go right here to donate. They were hoping to get 25,000. Of course, peoples generosity has already brought it up agov that number. Hearing about what made them special always helps. The frustrations that those young folks were communicating to you are very common. This is an unimaginable task for investigators. Ive been at scenes like this. Watch them be processed. They were dealing with dozens and dozens of people, and just to figure out whos alive and who isnt, to identify, its so painstaking. We heard that attorney general say two days in theyd only identified, and communicated, with twothirds of the families. Of course. The waiting. Weve always heard, is the hardest part. Yes. All right. So when were dealing with what happened here in orlando, we start to try to figure out how to make sense of it to learn going forward. What do we know about what our emerging propaganda tools for terrorists. Things that could attract a deranged person like the murderer here in orlando . How does it relate to what we just saw in france . That horror has new insights on the war on terror. Well tell you about it. 73 of americans try. To cook healthy meals. Yet up to 90 fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. Lets do more. Add one a day mens 50 . Complete with key nutrients we may need. Plus it helps support healthy Blood Pressure with vitamin d and magnesium. For crash survival, subaru has developed ours most revolutionary feature yet. A car that can see trouble and stop itself to avoid it. When the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety tested front crash prevention nobody beat subaru models with eyesight. Not toyota. Not ford or any other brand. Subaru eyesight. An extra set of eyes, every time you drive. Terror striking again in france. A Police Commander and his female partner killed in an isisinspired attack. But theres more to this. The attacker claims he was directed by isis, but he also used a Live Streaming facebook app in order to do this. Now, thats new. Was he directed to do that . And what does it mean about the propaganda exploits were now going to see from terrorists . Lets discuss. Cnn National Security analyst juliette kyam and cnn terrorist analyst paul crouickshank. Not is new. Targeting a Police Officer in their home, brazen, but taking the kid hostage and wanting to film it. Wanting this to be on video, online and saying that may have been done by design. What does it mean to you . It means that they want as much publicity as possible. It means that theyre using new apps, new technology to make themselves known, and it means that they are going after individuals that represent Public Safety, Law Enforcement. In ways we never could imagine. Its happened before, but the intimacy, someone whos been in National Security, the intimacy of someone target you, your wife, hold your child, its terrifying and terrifying to the rest of the Public Safety community. Here in the u. S. , paul, this is going to sound kind of like a story we covered here where a journalist was taken out by someone she used to work with and he was trying to put it on facebook also, but that was about just straight madness in that the mind of that man. This seems to be a propaganda tool. What do you know about its development and its effect . Chris, this was the firstever terrorist attack in the west where a perpetrator broadcast live from the scene of the crime. He was broadcasting live after killing those two Police Officers while he was with the child, holding the child hostage, and with the police just outside poised to come in. There were people watching that live feed in realtime. I think this is going to be likely the wave of the future when it comes to terrorist attacks. That terrorist groups, individuals who have been radicalized will exploit this new technology, these new apps, 4g, fast data networks, to record terrorist attacks in realtime. Isis and its followers want to do this because they want to maximize the impact and realize by broadcasting images live there is nothing at all authorities will be able to do to take them off the internet and prevent them coming out, because theyre already out there, the followers of these people on facebook have already managed to record it and thats exactly what isis did in this case, and they then broadcast and edited version. Paul, also mention this terrorist before taken out mentioned euro 2016. Obviously a big, big football or soccer tournament. Its a big security consideration already, but authorities are taking that as a greater indication . Yes. He said that the euro 2016 soccer championships were going to be turned into a cemetery. There have already been indications that isis wants to target this event, the socalled man in the hat in Brussels Airport told investigators that was the aultimate attack, they wanted to hit the championships. Every game at euro 2016 is watched by a Global Television audience of more nan 150 million people. So isis realized the eyes of the world are on france and want to hit this tournament. I was talking to a senior official european counterterrorism official who said the terrorist threat is more acute against these championships than any other event in the history of International Sporting events. Chris . All right, paul. Last thought here for now, juliette. What does this do to the authorities protocols and their mindset in dealing with potential events . Well, i think theres going to be a lot more focus on protecting identities of Law Enforcement, counterterrorism safety officials. We tend to do that in the United States. Dont be listed or have your address out. For Law Enforcement, though, they have to ignore the live feed. They have to go in or not go in to maximize life and cant be thinking about the show isis is trying to put on. Its a very hard thing to do but given these apps and the fact as paul said this is going to be isiss m. O. For a while, they have to just act as if theyre not live. And also, it raises the issue of cooperation between corporate and government funkctions here. Right. We are following a lot of news out of orlando. Thank you both. A horrible story here. A toddler attacked by an alligator at a Disney Resort. This family forced to watch it unfold. Lets get to it. A 2yearold boy snatch chd and dragged away by an alligator at disneys grand floridian resort. The father tried to grab the child, was not successful. With each hour that passes by hopes grow dimmer and dimmer. We have a radical islamist terrorism problem, folks. Its a political talking point. Its not a strategy. In the end, it didnt matter what we called bin laden. It mattered that we got bin laden. President obama, he was more angry at me than he was at the shooter. Did you know your husband was going to do this . Authorities are zeroing in on the killers wife. His entire profile is being studied. He was at multiple locations before he chose that spot. Announcer this is cnn breaking news. Good morning. Welcome to your new day. We are live in orlando, and we begin with breaking news out of Walt Disney World. We have this search going on right now for a toddler. He, his parents, his sister, were from nebraska. Theyre at the Disney Resort. Hes playing in a lagoon and all of a sudden an alligator comes up and takes him. The father tried desperately to save his son, jumping in the water, trying to wrestle with the alligator, as horrified vacationers were watching all of this. I mean, you just cant imagine this scene unfolding in front of you and all of this set against orlando and the backdrop of all the grief theyre already dealing with because of the pulse nightclub attack. So we want to get right now to Boris Sanchez, live with all of the great laking details of this alligator attack. Boris, what do you know . Reporter alisyn, you said it best. It is unimaginable that a family would have to deal with Something Like this. We just wrapped up a press briefing, sadly, with no information as to the whereabouts of this toddler but officials gave two important bits of information. Calling this a search and rescue operation. It has not moved into the recovery phase yet. So they are Still Holding out hope they will find this young boy. Aside from that, they also tell us they have removed four alligators from the lagoon where the young boy was snatched, and are now examining those alligators to find any evidence they may have been involved in the attack. Again, its just brutal for this family to have to deal with this. Theyre on vacation. At whats supposed to be the heaviest place on earth and now confronted face to face with a horrible tragedy. A luxury Disney Resort at orlando, a search underway. By land and in the water for a 2yearold boy snatched and dragged away by an alligator at disneys grand floridian resort. The toddler wading near the shore of a manmade lake with his family nearby. The tragic incident occurring shortly after 9 00 p. M. According to Law Enforcement officials. Social media lighting up with horrified disneygoers watching the frantic search unfold. Police putting up yellow tape outside the grand floridian directly across from the Magic Kingdom in orlando and praying for this family. Disney is fully cooperating with the investigation. Everyone here at the Walt Disney World resort is devastated by this tragic accident. Our thoughts are with the family. We are helping the family and doing everything we can to assist Law Enforcement. Reporter with each passing hour, a harsh reality is setting in for rescuers desperately trying to find this young boy. Were not leaving until we recover the child. All right. Lets find out whats happening right now. We have nick wiley, executive director of florida fish and Wildlife Commission joining us. Nick, thank you. Saw you on tv before doing the presser and know youre busy monitoring this. Appreciate your time. What are you expecting to happen right now . What is the status . Well, right now we have boats on the water. We have dive teams coming in. Weve got every piece of technology, equipment and support we can bring to bear, and were just aggressively out there, as the sun comes up, we can see better, were going to stay on top of this and do everything we can to find this boy and try to support this family. Is there any hope at this point that it is a rescue . We heard the sheriff say earlier this is still certain and rescue, not recovery. Wheres your head on that . Were going to maintain hope. Were going to hang on to that hope and and were going to keep looking as hard as we can. The fact this is a manmade lagoon, obviously what we want to figure out how this happened, why this happened. Manmade does that help you at all in terms of what the bottom structure is of this body of water . We do know that alligators do that with prey, radio it right . They take prey and hide it under water. It the search made easier because this is a manmade lagoon . I wouldnt say easier. The water is pretty clear. We do have Aquatic Vegetation that can get in the way. Its got a pretty sandy bottom. So, you know, i wouldnt say its going to be easy, but i do believe were going to weve got the right people out there, professionals doing this job, and were going to do our best it find the child. Whats the reality . Obviously theres a measure of shock that at disney world, a manmade lagoon, where people are going to be around, had an alligator in it, but in your experience, whats the reality about where you find alligators in florida . Well, we tell people that you know, florida is safe, and these kind of thing, extremely rare. But you do have to be aware. Anytime youre in freshwater in a freshwater lake, pond, marsh, river in florida, you can have alligators. They can move around, and so its not unusual to see alligators. Whats unusual is to have one attack like this. Especially a smaller one. Right . You were saying that that estimates from people who were there put it around four to six feet and attacking, usually something you see from a bigger alligator. Now, we also hear that its not just about one alligator. That you have found multiple alligators already. Is that a surprise to you . How many, and i guess you figure there could be more . No, the not a surprise that we found a handful of alligators in this area. There, again theyre common in florida, and i wouldnt say theres an unusual number there, but we just have to work through this, and anytime we can catch an alligator to further investigate and find out if it was involved thats what were going to try to do. There was a no swimming sign. Wed heard earlier reports there was a lifeguard there, and we now understand the lifeguard was from a nearby pool, heard the commotion and came to help. Remove that element. But there wasnt a sign that said, beware, alligators. Is that something sma shouometht should be posted at all of these waters whether manmade or not . I know disney is aggressive about taking out alligators and working close to us and signage can only do so much. I think were going to take a look at this and i know disney will. If theres anything we can do better we will. But i know disney is doing everything they can to provide a safe experience and were going to do keep doing everything we can to help them. All right. Nick, i appreciate you being with us. Good luck with the search. We hope it ends soon. Thank you. Thank you, chris. Okay. The gunman who killed 49 people at that gay nightclub behind us may have also been targeting Walt Disney World. Authorities say he staked out both locations. Justice Department Investigation authorities want to know what the wife knew, and may be prepared to file charges. Cnns jim sciutto joins us now with the latest. We know shes the target of an investigation. No conclusions but theyre looking into her. She told investigators she knew he was thinking about carrying out a jihadist attack and tried to stop him. Told investigators she traveled with him to some of these possible targets including the pulse nightclub including the days leading up to the event inlewding the disney property and did not know at the time he was considering them as targets. Are those answers clear to investigators . Clearly, not yet. No conclusions but she is not a target of their investigation. Did you know your husband was going to do this . Reporter this morning authorities are zeroing in on the killers wife, 30yearold noor salman. A Law Enforcement official says she admits she knew about her husbands interest in carrying out a jihadist attack. She has been very cooperative with the authorities. Reporter salman claiming she tried to dissuade him from doing anything violent, according to the fbi. Denies knowing anything about the pulse nightclub as a target for the massacre. Do you think that your daughterinlaw here helped your son commit this crime . I dont think so. Reporter authorities are now looking into whether she should face charges for knowing about his intentions, but not telling police. This as were getting our first look inside the couples apartment. Clothes and childrens toys scattered on the floor. Investigators seizing Electronic Devices from the home as new evidence is emerging that suggests the gunman may have considered other targets. Suffice it to say he had probed multiple locations before he chose that, that spot. Reporter cnn learned he visited this disney Shopping Complex as well as the pulse nightclub, all at the beginning of june. Investigators say his wife traveled with him. The dates coinciding with gay days and an annual event that tracts thousands of lgbt people to disney parks. Disney Security Officials told the fbi they believed the shooter was scouting the disney world park when he visited there with his wife in april as well. We are trying to understand all of this travels in the recent past. Reporter the june scouting missions occurring around the same time as when the killer purchased the weapons he used to carry out the attack. This as we are now hearing from First Responders at the nightclub. I wont forget the steady pow, pow, pow. Reporter the lieutenant at the fire station just 300 feet away from the club describing the hundreds of clubgoers frantically trying to escape the barrage of bullets. There was groups of people in front of the fire station hiding behind the wall over there crying and screaming. Kind of sick to think about it, but each time hes shooting hes shooting somebody in there and whats more, going about his business as methodically as at gun range. Reporter the fbi is also looking into its own process. It had the shooter under investigation. Took him off investigation. Of course, this horrible thing happened, but we also know this today the fbi what have 1,000 investigations underway of possible suspected jihadis here in this country. We know that they consider about 50 to 100 of them the highest priority cases. This is the challenge that theyre faced with. They have to make judgment calls all the time as to who to keep under investigation, who not to with imperfect information, its a really, really difficult job. And only have to get it wrong once for Something Like this to happen. Absolutely. Stand by. Coming up, talking more about the killers wife. What does she know and will she face charges . Well discuss all of latest for you, next. Choose to smooth. Choose effortless glide from side to side. Choose kneeloving, underarmcaring, bikini linebearing. Choose venus swirl. With five contour blades and a flexiball, it pivots with every dip and divot. Choose to smooth. Venus swirl. Premium like clockwork. Month after month. Year after year. Then one night, you hydroplane into a ditch. Yeah. Surprise. Your Insurance Company tells you to pay up again. Why pay for insurance if you have to pay even more for using it . 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So joining us now is cnn chief National Security correspondent jim sciutto and bob beyer, great to have you both with us. Bob, if the killers wife knew he was interested in a jihadist attack what can they charge her with . Complicity. Supporting terrorism. If she, in fact, drove him to the site in case, bought weapons, bought ammunition. What if he said theres an interesting pla is in orlando. Lets take a drive this weekend. What about that . Shes lying. I mean, you just you know, within the family its generally known whats going through somebodys mind. He was close to this woman. He probably confided in her. Ooi ive never seen these attacks where a small group was consulted. And she said she knew he was considering an attack and tried to dissuade him. This did not come out of nowhere. Jim, when you talk to investigators is there charges are pending . We know an investigation is underway. They havent reached that conclusion yet. 234e ha they have to essentially decide this question, did she know enough to come to police and warn them something was about to happen. Thats a judgment call. Depends on the law. They have something, theyre clearly investigating. The father, very close to the son, speaking to the media. He is a media personality. Had a youtube channel. Might the parents were charged with something . Ive usually seen wives, brothers, sisters, brought into the plot. Sometimes parents know. He has made statements supporting the taliban. That doesnt mean its terrorism. He may or may not have known. Whats important when they get into the mehta data. Inside the club texting somebody, or right before, this could mca much wider investigation. You would want somebody watching to tell you when the police are coming. Theyre going to get a lot of information off the telephone and computer. And in the first reports, there were reports that there was an accomplice somehow. Those were then shied away from. Those first reports. Is there thinking now there was some other help that night . It terms of an accomplice, no, not yet. E heard eyewitness accounts, someone was blocking the door and thought there was another perpetrator there. Often eyewitness accounts are wrong, its a moment of panic, that kind of thing. Listen, after an attack like this, one of the focuses is on the wife, that doesnt mean theyve eliminated other possibilities. Bob, also new information today he was casing disney world. That he had visited disney world. That seems to have been a harder target. Isnt it . Its a much harder target, the crowds are confined. When you start shooting, people start running. To think if they can run more people, more places to go. You really cant hit anybody with a gun if theyre running very fast. Its very, very difficult. If theyre scattering, the casualties much less. The question is how did he know that . How did he think through that . You know, he did go to saudi arabia twice. We still do not have any firm grasp of what he was doing there. Did he meet somebody . Did he go to a sheikh to get permission, theres a lot of unanswered question that are very, very important. And clearly something particular about the pulse nightclub. He went to disney in april. Went to this other Disney Resort in june. But from witnesses in that club, and people who go think hege regularly, he went to pulse nightclub multiple times over several years and then the personal aspect. Thoughts he may have been gay. There was a personal aspect of homophobia, selfloathing homophobe yao thia that plays a. And the reason that investigators have gone down that route, they found he was on gay dating apps . Another thing theyre investigating as well. Listen, theres another interpretation. Was he on those apps to meet people to further case out the place . Thats a possibility. But the number of visits there combined with that, that creates the possibility of another narrative. This is fairly typical for a jihadi, a radical muslim, to put his past behind him. Hes ashamed. Its very transgressive in islam. Homosexual relationships. Meaning if he had some sort of homosexual tendencies what would happen, in your experience . He would completely turn a switch in his mind and say ive got to put my past behind me, and in this sense, if he was homosexual, he was breaking with his past, and turning to god. This would be one way to overcome the shame within his framework. Theres also reports that weeks before this horrific attack he gave blood. What do investigators think about this . That he would do this generous altruistic act right before a massac massacre . They just dont know. Timing incredible. May 29ble, less than two weeks before the attack gives blood. Magnanimous act before you kill 49 people. So they dont know yet, but it, again, its part of this broader increasingly confusing picture of his motivations. Right . You have the pledging of allegiance to isis but also a personal past. Bob knows this issue well, could have been part of the narrative that led to do what he did. And people are psychopaths in a sense and carry on normal livess they make calls, they joke with people. They act completely normal right up to the act, and then once they get into the shooting, theyre very coldblooded. Theres no empathy left in these people and thats why he was able to shoot people on the ground. I mean, most normal people, machine gun in place, would panic. He didnt. Very he had lost any empathy at that point. Laughing, some witnesses said, as he was killing. Bob, jim, thank you for all of that background. Well, there are politics, of course, connected to all this. President obama and Hillary Clinton now seem to be joinings for forces to combat what donald trump has said about this attack. How is the battle uniting democrats . Is it uniting republicans as well . We explore all that. But im not gonna let em catch me, no no, not gonna let em catch the midnight rider, yeaaahh. But im not gonna let em catch me nooo not gonna let em catch the midnight riiiiiiiideer dinner may i be excused . Get the new xfinity tv app and for the First Time Ever stream live tv, watch on demand, and download your dvr shows anywhere. Hillary clinton and president obama teaming up to lash out at donald trump. They call trumps rhetoric dangerous. The presumptive gop nominee, as you might expect, hitting right back. Cnns joe johns is live with more. Hi, joe. Reporter hitting hard, too, alisyn. The massacre in orlando is now front and center in the race for the white house. And whats so remarkable about this is that president obama himself has now stepped into the back and forth. His angry response to dnts attacks in concert with a speech by Hillary Clinton and now trumps rebuttal last night. The latest signs theres a bitter period ahead in u. S. Politics between now and november. Donald trump going after president obama. I watched president obama today, and he was more angry at me than he was at the shooter. Reporter accusing the president of being angrier at him than the man who carried out the terror attack at a gay nightclub in orlando. The level of anger, thats the kind of anger he should have for the shooter and these killers that shouldnt be here. Reporter trump lashing out just hours after president obamas fiery speech defending his strategy against isis, and his refusal to use the term radical islam. Thats the key, they tell us. We cant beat isil unless we call them radical islamists. What exactly would using this label accomplish . What exactly would it change . Theres no magic to the phrase radical islam. Its a political talking point. Its not a strategy. Reporter the president s speech, his sharpest rebuke against the presumptive president ial nominee, slamming his rhetoric as dangerous and unamerican. Thats not the america we want. It doesnt reflect our democratic ideals. It wont make us more safe. It will make us less safe. Reporter flanked by his National Security council including the nonpartisan chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the president planning to ban muslims moving into the u. S. And calling out the leadership left squirming under trumps views. If we paint all muslims with a broad brush and imply that we are at war with an entire religion, then we are doing the terrorists work for them. Reporter trump appearing unimpress unimpressed. Nobody at that speech understand anything other than, boy, does he hate donald trump. Reporter democrats mounting a calculated onetwo punch. What donald trump is saying is shameful. Reporter with Hillary Clinton simultaneously unleashing her rebuke of trump in pittsburgh. Donald suggests i wont call this threat what it is, he hasnt been listening. But i will not demonize and declare war on an entire religion. Reporter clinton also denouncing trumps conspiracy theories about president obama after the terror attack as shameful. Even in a time of divided politics, this is way beyond anything that should be said by someone running for president. Reporter almost lost in the middle of all of this back and forth is the fact that the democratic primary season quietly came to a close last night with Hillary Clinton winning the last contest here in the district of columbia. She and her democratic opponent Bernie Sanders met and talked last night in washington, flanked by Campaign Aides on both sides. Bernie sanders has not conceded the race. Chris . All right. The politics of terror in the midst of no sign of action, in the wake of orlando of any kind, on any issue. So lets test the implications of whats going on here. Gop leaders are having to deal with what trump said about the president , and about this situation. Lets discuss with republican congressman steve king of iowa. Congressman, good to see you. I am sorry its in such a terrible time, that the country is experiencing, but it matters, and im hearing from a lot of people in your party, higher ups as well, stop saying, we. They keep saying. Say trump. Dont say, we. We dont own everything he says whether its the president sympathetic towards islamic terror, most of what hes saying, dont say we . Are you in that camp or do you believe donald trump represents your ideas and youre step to step with him. If the election were today i would vote for donald trump. Hes laid out did policies we ought to embrace, one is immigration policy. Ive heard him modify his policy are not bringing anymore muslims in the United States suggesting instead closer to ted cruzs position, is a spent immigration from terrorist sponsoring countries, at least until we get a handle on this. I think thats a prudent statement and, yet the cross fire is coming back as antigun. And so immediately this is into that political tugofwar thats going on. We want to secure the borders. We want to have safety for the American People. We want to have a prudent immigration policy, and the democrats want to take away our guns, the very thing we need to defend ourselves from people like that shooter in orlando. I think its actually a different issue this time. So lets skip to that right now. Do you think tt the fbi after having the contact with this orlando murderer, that they had, should have been able to flag his gun application and talk to him . You know, i dont think i can say for certain on that, except that they did an investigation. They interviewed him, two or three times. That they decided to close the investigation. They didnt have enough to move forward with any kind of prosecution, and so at that point they concluded it wasnt worthy to monitor him. At that point where would you draw the line . 15 years from now if that individual had been interviewed by the fbi he couldnt buy a grune without setting off alarm beps . I dont know the real technical answer that that. That would be the discussion. Especially, congressman, after what we just saw here in orlando, that the fbi knew who this guy was, they werent able to make the case. He then went out, got a gun. The fbi did not have the authority to even talk to him and now this. You dont see that as a reasonable abridgement of Second Amendment rights in furtherance of investigative power for the fbi . Even after orlando . Im willing to have the discussion but not willing to take the guns out of the hands of everybody that fits that category because were denying their right to defend themselves, too. We also need to expand human intelligence, look at his wife and that investigation appears to be going on. What about the neighbors . What about the people that should have been watching this . Theyre intimidated by Political Correctness. Theres no question theres no well i dont know that theyre intimidated by political how do you make that argument about the neighbors and people who knew this guy affected by Political Correctness . Well, just from the interviews out there. There are multiple interviews of people that saw him in the club. There were people, his employment, that spoke up, and they were more or less suppressed because they said that, criticism had to stop, because they thought it was criticism because he was a muslim. In fact, thats what the fbis conclusion was, that there really wasnt an unstable individual here, that it was the muslim, antimuslim prejudice that was causing him his trouble at work. So id charge that all up against the i thought you were talking about the orlando thought you were talking about the orlando speck situation. Now, as to the prior investigations in 2013 and 2014, i havent read or heard anything from sources at the fbi or anything theyve put out that they thought this was about p. C. This was about what the guy said at work. People were worried about it, hearing him say either he identified with all of these different muslim extremist groups or that he was threatening different accesses and they investigated, couldnt make the case. Came up in a separate investigation a year later, but they couldnt make a case. That was that. I dont know how p. C. Enters into this. Okay. Chris, let me just put it this way ive read a lot of the narratives on here. Maybe not all of them, but as many as i could get my hands on. Listened to a fair amount of briefings on this, and the picture that emerges in case after case, this one in particular, but also san bernardino, we had an opportunity to engage and we were suppressed because of the Political Correctness. Goes clear back to major hasan at fort hood. So i think our entire society has got shift this thing around. Thats something donald trump has got this right nap if we are suppressed with Political Correctness to the point where we dont see something and Say Something out of fear of being criticized are being some kind of bigot, then america is not as safe as if we had freedom of speech and freedom of conscience. So youre worried about the Political Correctness and not abridging our ability to stay safe, but not worried about the fbi having its hands tied and not able to look at a gun application of a man they had two different sets of interactions with, because you want to err on the side of the fbi would have had the authority, the ability, to go like at that application if they wanted to put a marker on his file to do that. They not have that ability. Not by an automatic blanket ability, but they could have flagged his file and continued the investigation and then would have had that ability. Right, but they closed the case. The point is about how theyre able to deal with people once theyve had interaction with. One last thing for you, congressman. There is concern that many people when discussing what happened here in orlando arent pointing out that this was gays being targeted. That this was a gay club where this happened. That this guy had a problem with gays. Thats why this is a hate crime, whether its terror and a hate crime, well see from investigators point of view, but do you believe its important to say that gays were targeted here, and that matters . I think its clear that gays were targeted in orlando. It does matter. And its tragic that they were targeted because of their sexual orientation. I talk with with hundreds of conservatives over on this side of the aisle. No one brings up the fact that any derogatory way or even mentions it to that extent. I mean, its tragic, and were sorry about that, and they are in our prayers as if they were the christians that were slaughtered in charleston, South Carolina some time back, equal standing with god, chris. Congressman, thank you very much for joining us. Its important we have these conversations. Always a pleasure to have you on new day. Thank you, chris. All right. 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Alisyn, by all accounts, a stilted meeting. Advisers present as well. Remember, sanders and clinton havent had a lot of time for this at this point. Battling on the campaign trail and sanders with a lot of determination, still battling Hillary Clinton. So i think its going to take time to do this dance to engage in a process where hes going to be brought onboard. Its obviously happening. Its happening slowly, and it has to happen not just between sanders and clinton, of course, but there has to be a way for his supporters to find room to support her based on her support for some of his positions. And giving him a nod that speaks to his influence now within the party. Yes, alisyn patrick, we know a couple details. Let me tell what you we know and you can fill in the blanks. We know at no point were the two alone. Which is a funny wording for the meeting. Their aides were will with them. Their Campaign Managers i should say as well as talked about the minimum wage. Is this the moment the Democratic Party has, or Bernie Sanders, at least harks been waiting for to weigh in on the democratic platform . Not yet. I think its a start of a conversation. Look, remember, the Paul Ryan Donald trump meeting about month or so ago. It wasnt as if everything was solved just over an hour. I think its a big sign of kind of the mood in the room and to some extent the lack of trust and lack of a real relationship that Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton had four other people in the room. Its as if Bernie Sanders wanted witnesses to make sure that it was very clear what Hillary Clinton was and wasnt saying. Look, what sanders sources were telling us was that he really wanted to see whether she is going to take sort of confidencebuilding steps over the next several weeks that suggest that shes going to stick with these progressive goals that she has said that she believes in and not tell Bernie Sanders the right things now, and then, you know, in septemberoctober, pivot to the center, you know, reach out to moderate vote, she may need in ohio and florida and virginia, if push comes to shove. Thats what theyre worried about. Theres such a lack of trust here, alisyn, about whether they can count on her to sort of go the distance. Hmm. David, lets talk about president obama and Hillary Clinton going after donald trump, and donald trump returning the criticism. So how unusual is it for a president , a sitting president , to be weighing in on the Presumptive Republican nominee in this fashion . Well i dont think its terribly unusual. We havent been in a situation where youve had a president doing that. This directly, but i think president obama feels that, of course, its his legacy thats being attacked here in terms of his approach to terrorism. This is from a candidate in donald trump who has questioned whether president obama was even born in the United States and is a muslim. He was born in the United States. He is not a muslim, and yet it was donald trump who has spun this web of conspiracy and lies now for a number of years. So i think president obama takes it seriously and i think he thinks theres high stakes involved with this debate. In effect, hes acting as a running plait for Hillary Clinton here by being incredibly forceful on this point, and theres a lot of cover here for president obama, because donald trump in his prescriptions for how to fight terrorism and how to respond to Something Like this seems to be really hurting himself. Doubling down on a muslim ban, which no republicans support. Particularly republican leaders. And striking a tone that frankly is at odds with other republican leaders. So he doesnt seem to be gaining ground within the republican establishment, even if there are some people who hear this, who are supporters of his, who say, yeah, right on. Alisyn, you can see almost like a the only reason i say this, hold on, patrick. Let me show you a poll countering this. In terms of whether or not this is working. Donald trump suggesting president obama wont use the words radical islam because hes somehow sympathetic with the cause or with muslims. One of the things the bloomberg poll asked was about president obama siding with muslims. Thats the suggestion. And it turns out that 31 of those asked agree, that president obama sort of pulls rhetorical bunches because he sides with muslims. This isnt just republicans. This is the country. 61 disagree, still 31 that donald trump is talking to. Its true, alisyn, but this in large part is the trump base and there may be certainly democrats and independents who are in that mix, but 31 is not a Majority Coalition thats going to win you the presidency. What donald trump is sort of being asked by a lot of republicans is, when it donald trump going to begin sort of expanding his message, sort of broadening it so that more republicans can, and democrats and independents, might embrace, you know, issues that hes saying, hes sort of identifying the fear that a lot of people feel a sense of unsafety, a sense that the Obama Administration has not done enough to protect the country and people are sort of nodding and going along with that. You can see that when you talk to voters about it, but then he says, and my solution is banning all muslims temporarily. And its as if, you know, a lot of voters who might be open and sort of feeling like donald trump is sort of getting whats going on in the country, then kind of veer off, because these ideas just arent palatable. And alisyn go ahead, david. Yeah. I just what else is important about that polling. Lets remember that any candidate, and donald trump is on to something in this regard. Certainly there are going to be supporters of his and there are going to be independent voters, noncommitted voters who say, what is going on here . These may be people who think, look whats happening with islamism around the world. With isis. With guns. With syria. All of these things can give rise and give advantage to trump on the issue of terrorism generally. Hmm. David, patrick, thank you. Great to talk to you. Thanks. This is a question being asked in orlando and across the country. Will anything change after the worst mass shooting in American History . And is Congress Ready to somehow change the countrys gun laws . Is that the answer . We talk to senator angus king about all of that, next. vo yo. You can worry about them. You can even choose a car for them. mom honey, are you ok . child im ok. announcer vo love. mom were ok. announcer vo its what makes a subaru, a subaru. Because my teeth are yellow. These photos . Why don,t you use a whitening toothpaste . Im afraid it,s bad for my teeth. Try crest 3d white. Crest 3d White Diamond strong toothpaste and rinse. Gently whiten. And fortify weak spots. Use together for 2 times stronger enamel. Crest 3d white. Wannwith sodastreamter . You turn plain water into sparkling water in seconds. And because its so delicious, youll drink 43 more water every day. Sodastream. Love your water. The wife, the orlando murders wife, a big focus for investigators right now. What was she aware of. What did she know early on. She said, well, i knew that my husband was interested in jihaddy attack. I tried to stop him what does this mean with the fbi, and what theyre going to try to do with her. What kind of changes. We have senator angus king joining us now. He is on the Senate Intelligence committee. You deal a lot with the fbi. I want to ask you, sir, do you believe that there are going to be changes because of what we dealt with here in orlando . Well talk about what kind of changes next. But do you think anything will change . Well, i think it is hard to say that anything is specifically going to change, but i think for example, the no fly, no buy, controlling the sale of guns to people on a terrorist watch list, i think thats a pretty likely out come of this. I think people are finally saying, hey, thats just common sense, as long as there is some kind of relief valve for people on the list. I think you may see that happen, maybe even in the next days. I see two problems with that. The first is thats no guarantee of anything. The senator feinstein just put out a list that 91 of people on the terror watch list, who apply for guns, get them. So thats not likely that some kind of real restriction. And also, as it bears relationship wait a minute, wait a minute he wouldnt have been on yes . She was saying 91 get them now under the this proposed legislation, they wouldnt. Thats the point. These are people on the terrorist watch list, who are able to get guns today, and what were talking about is changing that, so that theyre unable to do so. But air right. This guy there would still be due process. There has to be due process. Go ahead. Oh, no, please senator. Make the point about due process. I think the point is that you cant just say people with constitutional rights, they have to have an opportunity to say theyre on list improperly, there was a mistake made, there has to be a done institution al relief valve, but i think still, the legislation should make a difference. The question is would it in this case. Are there guarantees, chris, there are never going to be guarantees. This is a dangerous place, but we have to close the doors as we identify them. Sources at the fbi are making a different case for what orlando means. They say we close the case on this guy. He wouldnt have been on a nofly list. Their concern is that they knew something was up with him, right, 2013, they had the case, they heard things that they dont want to be hearing about any americans, but they couldnt make the case. 2014, his name comes up again. Now, a couple of years after that, he goes to buy long and handguns, and they have no ability to even really be informed about that, right, because the fbi is a big entity, and doing the background checks doesnt necessarily communicate with the people who investigated this man earlier. But they dont have the authority, even if they did find out to flag him for interview. Do you think that should change . Yeah, i think one of the things, if youre on a list and some kind of reasonable suspicion. He wouldnt have been on a list. No list. Forget about the list. Im saying, because orlando is now relevant to that. If you have been a person of interest to the fbi, and again, this is where the constitution and freedom and, you know, what we are as a country, it is a thin line. But i think if somebody has been investigated by the fbi for terrorist related activity, clearly, theyre in the record somewhere. They know that they were there. They go and purchase a gun, there should be a ping and a question should be raised, not that they cant purchase the gun, but a question should be raised during the 72 hour waiting period and maybe there can be further questioning and following up. Weve got to try to close these doors, as i say. This is we are in a dangerous situation, and this is one of the ways i think we can try to deal with it. Not to hear it from senator king, but congressman king. Steve king said, well, i dont know, i dont know that i want somebodys Second Amendment rights abridged when theyve been investigated. The case was closed. I dont know, how long would keep them in that situation. Thats that Second Amendment right issue, versus the fbi able to do something involving weapons in someone they looked at before. Do you think you can win that debate in the current climate . Well, it will be very difficult, as you know, in a political situation, anything involving guns. One of the problems with the gun discussion, it has become sort of all or nothing. It is a litmus test. You want to repeal the abolish the Second Amendment and take my guns away. Thats not true. But the atmosphere is such that it is hard for us to have a fact based discussion around here on these issues. I think there may be some room to get something done on this issue in this congress. It is no the going to be easy, but i think there is an opportunity, and this case presents it as something that i think most americans, most americans, 90 of americans would say, wait a minute, youre on a terrorist watch list and you can buy a gun. Thats nuts. So i think were going to be able to maybe move on this. But, and it is a little bit of a harder question when the person wasnt on a list, and thousands of people fall into that category. Senator king, thank you. Take care. Thanks, chris. Were following a lot of news here. Developments of the situation with the orlando murders, the most ever done by gunfire, and also, the story about the toddler taken by an alligator, right nearby in disneyworld. A toddler, attacked by an alligator at a Disney Resort. A search and rescue operation. It is a very rare thing to happen. Officials are really hoping for a miracle. Authorities are zeroing in on the killers wife. New information, he was casing disneyworld. Theyre very suspicious of the information she has put forward. Did you know your husband was going to do this . We have a radical islamic terrorism problem, folks. It is a political talking point. It is not a strategy. What donald trump is saying is shameful. President obama, he was more angry at me than he was at the shooter. Announcer this is cnn breaking news. Good morning everyone. Welcome back to your new day. We are live in orlando, florida. We begin with more breaking news. The frantic search for a 2yearold who was snatched and dragged into a lagoon by an alligator at a Walt Disneyworld resort. Unimaginable. Theyre there, this family from nebraska on vacation. The father, sees it happen, rushes into the water and the alligator gets away with his son in its jaws. This tragedy just adding to what is already just smothering grief in orlando, because of what we all know happened now. The worst taking of life by gun ever in america. But this story about this kid, has our attention on it. Lets get to Boris Sanchez right now at Walt Disneyworld with the details of the story and latest on the search. Any word from fish and wildlife yet . Reporter sadly, chris, no word. No knowledge of the whereabouts of this young toddler. I can tell you, we got word from officials that this is still a search and rescue, an important distinction from recovery operation. Theyre definitely holding out hope theyll be able to find this young boy. I should tell you, though, they did struggle to give us any kind of example as to when a child this young was missing for this long after being attacked by an alligator, and still found to have survived the attack. It is unimaginable, with his family dealing with right now. A desperate search underway at a luxury Disney Resort near orlando. By air and in the water, for a 2yearold boy, snatched and dragged away by an alligator. Disneys grand floridian resort. The toddler was waiting at the shore with his family nearby. Weve taken four alligators out of the lake. They have to be authnized. The toddlers father jumping into the water, to no avail. The tragic incident occurring shortly after 9 00 p. M. , according to Law Enforcement officials. Social media lighting up, watching the search unfold. Quote, Police Pulling up yellow tape out of the grand floridian, directly across from Magic Kingdom in orlando, praying for this family. Ground and air crews continue search at disneys grand floridian hotel. He was on vacation with his family from nebraska and had been staying at the resort since sunday. Disney is fully cooperating with the investigation. Everyone here at the resort is devastated by this tragic accident. Our thoughts are with the family. We are helping the family and doing everything we can to assist Law Enforcement. With each passing hour, a harsh reality is setting in for rescuers trying to find this young boy. Were not leaving until we recover the child. You heard florida fish and wildlife mention in that piece that they had removed four al gators from this one lagoon and theyre now being examine today see if any of them were the one that snatched the boy. There is no indication of that yet. But to give you a clearer picture of how this massive search area is, this is a lagoons that is bordered by the hotels and Magic Kingdom itself and connected to a series of canals that attach it to other large bodies of water. This is a massive search and rescue operation that is still ongoing right now, alisyn. Boris, please get back to us when you hear any development whatsoever. Thank you for that reporting. We want to bring in jeff corwin, abcs ocean mysteries. Thank you for standing by for this. It is so wrenching to think about them watching their 2yearold, who was just playing at the waters edge, an alligator coming up and grabbing him and the father trying to wrestle it out of the jaws. Can you tell us, once an alligator has something, how hard it would be for an adult male human to get it loose . Youre absolutely right, alisyn. This is so gut wrenching and hearbreaking. Here, this family is on the ultimate vacation, in a place which is the ultimate when it comes to safety in this tragedy unfolds. It is incredibly hard to open an adult alligators mouth. Even if youre a human being, an adult male like myself, it would be impossible for me to physically pry open the jaw of an adult alligator. Jeff, how surprising is it that an alligator would be in this lagoon . A manmade lagoon on this Hotel Property . I mean, how would an alligator get in there . Thats a great question. But heres the reality check. Alligators just a few decades ago, were critically endangered, but because of good conservation, theyve rebounded and have recovered incredibly well. There is well over 1. 5 million alligators living in florida. Keep in mind, that although this a manmade lagoon, it is surrounded by thousands of acres of swamps, of rivers, of wild habitat. So it would be impossible, no matter how well you attended and micromanaged this lagoon to keep alligators from naturally sort of migrating and flowing into this water habitat. What typically happens is that the wildlife experts will watch this area, and when they see an alligator thats getting a little bit too big, theyll often remove the animal. But it would be almost impossible to prevent wildlife, such as alligators, from entering this lagoon. Thats good to know. Were watching aerial footage right now of the search for this little 2yearold boy. There was earlier a press conference, jeff, and the fish and wildlife official said it is very unusual for an alligator to attack a human being. Is that simply because normally theyre not in proximity to human beings where they can get their claws on one . Or is it because usually humans are bigger than the alligator . I think it is all of those things. Keep in mind, alligators do not naturally prey on human beings. Theyre eating fish, turtles, birds, small mammals okay. But a human child is very small in size. When we have these terrible tragic scenarios unfold, what is usually the case is an alligator that has become very accustomed and comfortable around human beings, oftentimes because people have been feeding this animal and it loses its fear. Every month, thousands of people migrate and move to florida, and as we take over alligator habitat, these animals then need to migrate and find a new home. So while this is a very rare situation, it does occasionally happen. Incredibly tragic. But incredibly remote. You need to keep in mind that when youre in florida there are alligators everywhere. So that tells you how rare such a tragedy like this is. And there were signs that say no swimming at this lagoon. But it did not say that it was because there might be alligators in there. Well, first of all, the family wasnt swimming, and Walt Disneyworld and walt disneyland, these places have been in operation for many decades. Ive never heard of an alligator tack or fatality in one of these park, ever. So that tells you how rare this event is. Walt disneyworld is micromanaged. So it is really impossible for them not to basically have their figures in the cookie jar when it comes to security. This is a wild animal, a vast place. The family was following the rules, they did absolutely they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The father did everything he needed to do. In the end, he wasnt successful. Thats the great tragedy of this. Oh, my gosh. It is a great tragedy. The sheriff was confident during the press conference, they said they will find the boy. He didnt obviously say that they would find him alive. Do you share that confidence that they will find the boy somehow . I do not have a confidence. I have a hope against hope to be honest with you. A 2yearold child, what would be their swimming abilities. You have the issues of the elements. You have water temperature. You have other predatory animals. You have other al gatoligators. Theyre not far from recovery acknowledgment of this terrible situation. Yeah, and to be clear, that is what the sheriff, i think meant, reading between the lines. I think he meant they would recover the child, but even that seems it might be a long shot jeff, thank you so much for all of your expertise. Lets get to chris. All right, the terrorist who murdered 49 people at the gay nightclub behind us, mau have also been targets disneyworld, that is what were talking about with this kid and gator. Authorities want to know what his wife knows about. And maybe other preparations that were done before this ugly, ugly tragedy here. Lets bring in cnn chief national correspondent, jim sciutto and legal analyst and criminal defense attorney, mark omara. Great to see you. Lets deal with the investigative side. The wife and dynamic what, investigators trying to get out of here. Active investigation for basically not telling authorities what she knew. She has told them now that she knew he was considering carrying out a jihadist attack and tried to stop him. She is telling them she went to some of these sites or perceived to be he was scoping out. Certainly he scoped out pulse and he went to disneyworld. She didnt know he was scoping them out, but are those answers satisfying to them. If you knew he thinking about that, why didnt she come to the authorities. The strategic legal game here, the fbi want to pressure her, pressure her, well charge you, we might charge you with misprison, something i havent heard, almost every state has taken it a you have toff the bo. But the flip side, i want a lawyer, everything stops. It is stage three right now. The first stage, theyve already been there. Come talk to us, we need to find out, help out. She did that cooperated, according to them. Wait a minute, we see this on social media, we know about this about a consider edit card at disney. Whatever they had that they were waiting to use, they got more information that way. At some point, if theyre going to talk to her, though, they cant keep going there. Stage three will be where we are now. Were looking at you, considering you for charges. She will gate a lawyer. Stage fauour, here is what your client needs to do, here is how to handle. Stage five would be the indictment. How high a bar does do the investigators have to charge her with anything meaningful . This felony is not real jail time, it is hardly ever even used, conspiracy i guess would be there. But even on the federal level, which is easier than state levels, it is still a case to make. It is very difficult, but all going to based on what they find along the way. If they can show more connection between her and him, whether it is conversations on text messages, anything like that the more that sort information they have. They want to keep the pressure on to get as much information. Jim, people will hear this conversation and be like what do you why do i care about any of this. This a terrible guy, a terrorist, a murder, probably a hate criminal. Why do they care. Why do i have to hear about this . Couple of things. One, is there a Broader Network supporting him, so you wants to prevents something happening again. Theyre not so much investigating her or others who mig carry out another attack, but you want to know how far the network went. But beyond that tais attack, pe thinking this kind of thing to come forward and prevent that tack. You want to encourage people to do that, right, and frankly, made it clear, there are penalties if you dont. Early on, there was a push on the fbi. You dropped the ball. You had him twice and nothing happened. That seems to be a falls conclusion. They did what they could. There was no basis for moving forward. Here is the question now, which is getting confused by a lot of politicians. If you are on a nofly list, you should be on a no buy list. This guy couldnt fit in that category. They closed the case. They say he represents thousands of people that they have in their database where we looked at you, stuff about you we dont like, we couldnt make a case. But should they have the authority, when that person tries to get a weapon, to bring them back in. It is up to us, isnt it . All we have to do is be more willing to compromise our Second Amendment rights and say if you are under investigation, if we think youre bad, if weve had an investigation, closed it, any number of reasons we can stop you from getting a gun. We know in this country, it is not going to happen. People who propose to keep the Second Amendment as strong as possible, win that political debate nine and a half times out of ten. However, were dealing with exactly what happens, because of those protections, is that a Fair Assessment . No question. This is exactly the kind of case that proponents of this legislation, no buy list in effect, have been talking about. Someone who is on this someone cant get on a plane conceivably shouldnt be able to buy the gun. It is not as cut as dry and that, right, because what qualifies you for that list. Slippery slope. Does that investigation have to be underway, being interviewed . Slippery slope. We have some basis for this analysis. Here is a terror watch list, thats a high bar. 91 of the time that people on the terror watch list apply for guns, they get them. So do you see legally the concern of the slippery slope . Well, yes, i really do. Im concerned about it. But the reality is, again, it is a compromise, as subtle as we can address it, versus individual rights. Were entering a new age, the age where we may have to compromise our individual rights. Thats something we do for freedom of expression. Whether it is supporting terrorism or saying things about blacks, gays, et cetera, so we have as a society accepted restrictions in cases like that. The political dynamic is with the first amendment. Were on the side of inclusion, allowing people to do things. What will we do with the Second Amendment. Right now, it seems were going that way as well. Well see what orlando means. Mark and jim, thank you very much. So the politics of this playing out in real time, Donald Trumps terror talk, rattling, and also dividing republicans. Up next, were going to give you the debate, whether the Republican Party is behind donald trump or this may be something that makes gops step away. President obama and Hillary Clinton, slamming donald trump for his renewed call on a ban of muslims, after the terror attack in orlando. Top republicans are critical as well. I do not think a muslim ban is within our countrys interest. It is not reflective of our principles. Not just as a party but as a country. I hope he realizes that in order to win the war, youre going to need people that he has alreadile alienated. Ive said this a thousand times about donald trump. He is making it harder to win the war. Joining us now to talk about this is jeff deewitt. The Arizona State treasurer and campaign surrogate for donald trump. Also tim miller, former jeb bush spokesman, who does not support donald trump. Thanks for being here. Jeff, lets start with you. What about what you just heard from some of those Top Republicans that say donald trump as president would certainly need muslims. He needs muslims to be able to sort of point out radicals orator orrists in their midst. He should not be alienating them. Well, we have a big problem. I think we all can understand that. The question is, what do we do to solve the problem. Donald trump is the only one offering substantive solutions. President obama keeps going on tv and misidentifying the problem. Radical islamic terrorism has grown from 3,000 deaths per year, caused by it, to over 28,000 deaths per year in the last five years. Its growing. It is a bigger and bigger problem. President obama keeps focusing on iraq and the head of the beast is in syria. When people get radicalized or recruited to join isis, it is coming from syria. So we have to do something more to solve the problem. Our currents leadership is not doing that. The problem is getting worst. We have to do something. Okay, tim. Alisyn, yeah, see this is the thing. It is donald trump that is misidentifying the problem. After this oh horrific massacre in orlando, that was committed by an american citizen, who was born of an immigrant in the same neighborhood that donald trump was born of an immigrant, his response and jeffs response, his campaigns response is lets ban immigrants from coming into the country. Lets ban muslims, lets ban people from countries that have muslims, like belgium, by the way and the United Kingdom from coming into our country. The terrorist was not an immigrant. So banning immigration is completely misidentifying the problem and goes against everything our country has stood for since its founding. Jeff, there may also youre putting words in my mouth. Hold on, jeff. Thats not what we said, but thank you. Yes, it is. It is his plan. Hold on. Okay, jeff, clarify it, then. Well, he is saying that ban all immigration. Jeff. And things like that. We everybody is fine with Legal Immigration. Youre not. You want to ban muslims. Trump hater out there, he is running an antitrump pack. Thats correct. Proudly. And working for Hillary Clinton. But to indict the question on the other side, to indict all gun owners on the actions of a single gun owner is not the way to go about it either. We have to look at the problem. Jeff, let me get in there for a second. Our Current Administration is not doing. Guys, im sorry, the satellite delay, which makes it seem like were stepping on each other. Jeff, i want to show you this blumberg poll. It asked whether or not trumps rhetoric on the muslim ban bothers people. And 66 , if you combine the top two categories, bothers a lot, a little, yeah, it does bother them. He wont be able to win with just 34 for whom it does not bother at all. But again, when they also poll issues and ask about either jobs, immigration, National Security, mr. Trump handedly beats Hillary Clinton on those issues. Everybody knows while the problem has grown, it has not only grown under president obama, but it grew while she was secretary of state. So he alisyn jeff, jeff is not answering any of your questions. When he said that the Trump Campaign supports the Legal Immigration, thats totally false. He proposed new bans on Legal Immigration the other day in response to the terrorist attack by a citizen. If regard to the polls you just brought up, the bloomberg poll, over 55 of americans say they will not vote for donald trump. He has repulsed women, repulsed minorities. They need to consider having an open convention, where we get rid of him as the nominee, because he has no chance to beat Hillary Clinton because of the poll you just showed. And yet, tim, let me get in there for a second, because i want to any republican candidate in history in the primary. More votes again. Tim, i want to push back for a second. Weve heard not just from donald trump, but from terror experts who say that it does bother them that president obama seems reluctant to use the word radical islam, because they do think thats at what is the root of some of this toxicity and some of the murders that weve seen. Do you think that donald trump has a valid point that you need to call it by what it is . I 100 agree that it is important that we identify the enemy. When you look at what president obama has done, the problem is not only that he doesnt say radical islamic terrorism, but that defines his world view when looking at terrorism. He treats it leak a Law Enforcement exercise rather than a law against a death cult that wants to see the end of our way of life. Heres the thing, alisyn, the fight against the pc police that donald trump wants to fight about the term radical islamic terrorism, thats a tiny element of this. The big part behind it is actually winning this fight, and having a real plan to do it. And donald trump does not know the difference between the kurds who are allies and the kuds who are the eye rairanian army. He gave a speech about pc wars. If his fight against the pc police, he is missing the point. Okay, tim, jeff, thank you. Sorry for the satellite delay, gentlemen. We appreciate the debate. Any time, alisyn. Next up, we hear thank you, guys. We hear from a very close circle of friends, reacting to the loss of two of the victims, and their thoughts about the political debate going on right now surrounding this attack. Stick around for that. But im not gonna let em catch me, no no, not gonna let em catch the midnight rider, yeaaahh. But im not gonna let em catch me nooo not gonna let em catch the midnight riiiiiiiideer he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. So he knows exactly when he can settle in and think big. And when josh thinks big you know what he gives . Ill give you everything ive got and then some. 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Com it is very hard to get your mind around the enormity of the attack here at the pulse nightclub. 49 separate lives lost, and while we have been down here, weve learned a little about each one of those. Christopher drew, and juan, the friends say it has been an emotional roller coaster, as their lives have taken center stage in politics. Telling us about the couples love and how it continues to inspire them. People are trying to process it. There are different interpretations. Was it Islamic Radical terrorism . Was it homophobe yo. I dont want to sound rude to anyone else. I really dont care. To me, it doesnt matter whether this person was praising isis, whether he was, you know, disgusted by seeing two people kiss, whether he was a closet homosexual. It doesnt matter to me. What his issues were. All i care about is that i lost my best friends, and i dont want to see that happen to anybody else. It is so easy for people somewhere else to have this running conversation about what is happening. But until somebody is standing there on orange avenue, feeling the presence of those 49 people, they wont understand what it feels like. Right now, when youre in the moment and you are part of Something Like what just happened this past weekend, people dont understand how your thoughts cant even be there. You are so distraught i guess is the best word, you just have genuine love and compassion for everyone around you, and you just pray and hope everybody is okay, whoever you know. And it is difficult to go and see people already wanting to politicize or talk about topics, which i get, but at the same time, i think we should focus more on loving, and i think thats what it is. Yesterday, we went to the vigil, and we were well, we were not doing okay, but we made it to the spot that they set aside for drew and juan, and the two of us just collapsed, because i mean, we were there with them. It is so hard to see that, and as we were sitting there on the sidewalk, couldnt even get to our feet, a muslim woman came over and just put her hands on our backs and prayed for us. She was there forever. She wouldnt leave until we could get up. And i think that was powerful for me. That pitting two groups against each other who have no hatred for each other, but it doesnt matter who we are, were still connected. It doesnt matter what group we come from, were still one big family. If this catastrophe were to be a catalyst for something, what do you hope changes . A serious, serious conversation about gun laws. Its just, its just too much now. No one needs to own an assault rifle. It is ridiculous. What do you need that for . You need to protect yourself with an assault rifle. You dont. You dont need one. I think we also need to have a serious, serious conversation about bigotry and hate. So often we allow ourselves to go there, and how often have we seen people rationalizing and embracing hatred and bigotry. The Common Thread that binds us is love and compassion for the people around us. Not this selfcentered hatred toward other people. If i want to see anything change, it is that people get over themselves and get to loving each other. You guys are a tightknit bunch of friends. Yeah. How do you explain it . Family. Family, love. I think thats the point. Drew was our glue. Made friends where ever they went. We try to emulate that. We try to live the same way they lived in drawing people into them, and being the social glue, and now we try to do the same thing for each other. Tell me about drew and juan together. Tell me about their relationship. It was love. So passionate. Just love. There was no other word you could use to describe it. I mean, we were talking earlier, and when they were together, no matter how many people were in the room, it was like one person was there. They were in their own space at all times. They never hesitated to just look each other in the eyes and express love. No words needed to be shared. Nothing. They just looked at each other and you knew they loved each other. I think thats the comforting thing is knowing that not one of them has to live without the other one. And seeing them the few minutes before everything happened, you could see that they were in eternal happiness with each other. These friends who are in so much pain just think the answer to hate is love. You can say it is idealistic, but forget all the politics, forget Everything Else thats being debated, reach out and love each other. Its hard to argue with that. When you talk about the difficulties that weve seen with the evolution of gay rights, no matter what faith you belong to, that is also what you are taught to believe. That love is the ultimate power. It is important for people to remember their pain. When we talk about gay rights, you have to remember the victimzation that this guy did. This was a hate crime. Who you talk about what do you do coming out of this, it is because of the people who were lost there. Thats why you care. Absolutely. In fact, his mother, drews mother told me yesterday that she is so happy that though drew was only 32 years old, he lived to see gay marriage be the law of the land. Friends put together this go fund me page withdr drew and w s juans family. So many reverbations, what does this mean, what do we do and dont do when it comes to fighting terror. We have president obamas top counterterrorism advisor, joining us next. Getting faster. Huh . Detecting threats faster, responding faster, recovering faster. When your securitys built in not just bolted on, and you protect the data and not just the perimeter, you get faster. Wow, speed kills. Systems open to all, but closed to intruders. Trusted by 8 of 10 of the Worlds Largest banks. The orlando mass murder, the hate crime, no matter how you want to label it, is a reflection of what is going on in the war against terror. What do we do. What are the policies. How do we deal with guns, and allow the fbi to do. Big questions an questions. Lets discuss with lisa monaco. It does matter even more coming out of orlando. Lets start at the top. The big theme that we see playing out in the president ial election is president obamas reluctance to say radical islam is seen as a reflection of a lack of resolve. A lack of desire to get his hands around the problem, and attack it. Do you agree with that assessment . No, i dont, chris. And thanks for having me this morning. It is good to be with you. I dont do politics, as you noted. Im the president s counterterrorism and Homeland Security advisor. I know first hand because i meet with him every morning to discuss the threats facing this country that is he focused, focused on the threat that is posed from isil, he is focused on the threat posed from violent extremists, and determined to destroy isil, which is why he talked yesterday about the progress in our campaign against that brutal terrorist group. When you guys are doing your policy briefings and discussing this, what do you call the threat . I call it a brutal terrorist threat from isil. I call isil basically a hybrid threat that were facing. It is at once operating at an insurgency, operating with military tactics, and were seeing that, but rolling them back from the territory they once occupied. They are a brutal terrorist a group, like we saw in brussel b sells were concerned about their ability to spew their hatred, their violent message through the internet and to recruit, radicalize and mobilize individuals to violence, where ever they are. The fbi, our sources are telling us, that there is a concern that is reflected in what happened here in orlando. They had two bites at this guy. Not about them dropping the ball, not about not making the case. But about their ability when they have people in their database to flag a gun purchase transaction. The fbi is not empowered to do that is my understanding under current law. Should they be able to . Youve hit upon the challenge, right. We face a challenge in Law Enforcement has an incredible challenge with understanding and intervening and identifying an individual who is selfradicalized, someone who isnt in contact with a Broader Network. How do you know when they go from inspiration, action and to murder. The fbi director has talked about what happened fwh this case, and the times that this killer emerged on their radar screen and the significant investigative steps they underto undertook. They operate on pred indicatica somebody may be involved in criminal activity run it to ground. They use their tools to understand what the threat may or may not be. As the fbi director said, he doesnt want his agents investigating people indefinitely. They have thousands of case open. Things that they have to focus on. They have to triage this threat. It is not about extending indefinitely, though, lisa. Youve got the guy. His name is in the database. He has come up more than once and when you find out he is trying to buy a weapon, you contact him. So thats right, chris. This is the challenge, right. These are important questions. And as the fbi director said, theyre going to look at this going forward, everything they can understand about this killers motivation and what inspired him to commit this brutal, this brutal and horrific act and look backward. If there are things we can learn about how we should do things better, then we should do that. We also need to understand weve got thousands of cases open. Weve got a system wherein if the fbi has a closed case, what could they do with the information. This killer could still go in and buy the assault rifle, whether the fbi had been flagged. True, but they would have had some contact with him. What we need is to get answers from leadership. Lisa, thank you for joining us. Thanks very much, chris. All right, now, part of dealing with the aftermath of orlando will be most acutely felt by those who survived the carnage. Imagine what life is like, after you make it through Something Like that. Lucky and so unlucky. The way forward, ahead. Ore the most rare and magical fruit. Which provided for their every financial need. And then, in one blinding blink of an eye, their tree had given its last. But with their Raymond James financial advisor, they had prepared for even the unthinkable. And they danced. See what a Raymond James advisor can do for you. Come on come on. P g. 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It was like church on sundays, thats where we went. I was supposed to be there, and i didnt go. My friends did. Thats right. You lost those five friends. How are you coping with that . You know, its right now, its like being a walking dead. You know, you dont know if you can be sad any more. You dont know if you can cry any more. You dont know to be angry any more. It is really, youre programmed to continue walking. And there is times when you breakdown, and then there is times when you just, youre in shock, because you cant believe this is happening. Ive heard that from other survivors, you dont know what day it is. You wake up and you dont know if you dreamt it, the nightmare continues. Everyday, you try to get some sleep. You try to maybe rest and hope that the next morning when you wake up, its like it was a nightmare, that youll hear a voice saying, hey, im okay, and it hurts, because it doesnt happen. Jeanette, you were in the club as i understand it with your friends. We have video i believe of you, because you at one point took your shirt off when you realized that a friend had been hit. You did used it as a tourniquet. I was able to exit the club. I was first there with my buddy, angel c angel colon, my straight friend to the gay club, because i was feeling down, and just wanted to have a drink, and i wanted to just salsa dance. I love salsa dancing. When i made it out i saw juan, and after i realized i wasnt shot, it was a natural instinct to help everyone around. He had a gunshot wound to his right quad, i gist tied it as tight as i can and started to help another young lady who was shot in the arm. She was going into shock. I was communicating with her, letting her know she was going to be okay, trying to help as many people as i can. Im sure it was so comforting to people. Did you catch a glimpse of the gunman . I did, when the shots went off, i automatically knew they were gunshots. There was no confusion in my mind. I ran into a storage room that i found and some people came in behind me and i put my body against the door to block anyone else from coming in, whether multiple gun men or one gunman. I saw the distance, to make sure he wasnt by the door, because there were people with me, a young woman with me, and i kind of got into protective mode. When i seen him, he was standing by the vip couches and he was shooting at the bar, i could see the flair from the barrel. You used a ladder to get out of the room. Yeah, i looked up, looked to the corner, and we seen the ladder, and we just started climbing up the ladder and went into the office that was up there in the attic, locked the door, and went under the desk. There was about four or five people in there. How long did you stay in there . It felt like forever, but 25 minutes, maybe 30. Angel who you were there with saved your life. How . He was standing right next to me. I dont want to get emotional. Ive been so emotional. He was right next to me, my lefthand side, i went to turn to my brother and i was facing the bar where juan was at. Once the shot fired, there was another young lady who was right next to us, and shots were going all over the place. You start feeling, you can tell at that moment, it felt like a war room. There was a lady who was shot next to me, and i started to duck and im turning around. As im turning around, i see the gun because of all the flair, the fire thats coming out. So angel pushes me and we start exiting. I start going towards the patio. Were falling. Were trying to get up. In my mind, i was bracing myself to get hit. I felt that i was going to get hit, but i just wanted to get out. If i was to get hit when finally exited out, the fence and patio, it was gone. It was just knocked down. So by the time i came out, i came all the way around, but my brother, i couldnt find my brother jeff, jillian, angel wasnt there. I was alone. I came all the way across the front, because naturally, i wanted to see who this guy was. I wanted to see who he was. So i saw the whole fire, and you saw him . Oh, i didnt get to see him, i was on the outside. I saw when the Police Officers got into a little gun battle with him. You have been in a war. All the psychological experts say you did live through a war. Please, take care of yourselves. The president is coming down tomorrow to offer some kind of comfort. Were thinking of you. Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. We will check back with all of you. Thank you so much for being here on new day. Newsroom with Carol Costello will pick up after this short break, and well see you tomorrow. He has a sharp wit. A winning smile. And no chance of getting an athletic scholarship. And that is why you invest. The best returns arent just measured in dollars. He gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. So he knows exactly when he can settle in and think big. And when josh thinks big you know what he gives . Ill give you everything ive got and then some. He gives a hundred and ten percent im confident this 10 can boost your market share. Look at that pie chart boom youve never seen a number like that you feel me lois . Im feeling you. Yeah you do lets do this watch out he just had a whole thimble full of coffee. Woot woot the ready for you alert, only at laquinta. Com. La. Quinta yeah announcer this is cnn breaking news. And good morning. Im Carol Costello. Thank you so much for joining me. I am here live in orlando, where a new tragedy is unfolding, just down the road from here. This tourist mecca reeling from a new heart break, a 2yearold nebraska boy is snatched by an alligat alligator. A grim search now underway. And investigators shift focus of the killing rampage at an orlando nightclub. The fbi says the shooters wife knew of his