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Controversy written Trump University hillary is not a talented person. One of the worst secretaries of state in the history of our country. Reporter trump trying to get ahead of a clinton speech today where she criticizes his Foreign Policy proposals. They sent me a copy of the speech and it was such lies about my Foreign Policy that they said i want japan to nuke. I want japan to get Nuclear Weapons. Give me a break. Reporter but clinton relentlessly slamming him as a fraud. He is trying to scam america the way he scammed all those people at trump u. Reporter the Democratic Front runner capitalizing on newly released testimony on ex staffers accusing trump ewart of unethical, misleading and dishonest conduct, a fraudulent scheme that preyed on the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money. Trump and his employees took advantage of vulnerable americans, encouraging them to destroy their Financial Futures, all while making promises they knew were false from the beginning. Donald trump himself is a fraud. Reporter president obama also bringing the heat against trump. He just says im going to negotiate a better deal. Well, how how exactly are you going to negotiate that . What magic wand do you have and usually the answer is he doesnt have an answer. Reporter trump unsurprisingly vowing to hit back. Shes going to start campaigning. Well, if he campaigns that means im allowed to hit him just like im allowed to hit bill clinton i guess, right . Well, in terms of vowing to hit back it should be noted that donald trump has gone out to the president at nearly all of his rallies, so nothing new there. It should also be noted that Trumps Campaign has dismissed allegations against Trump University and hi legal team has released the names of a number of people who said they were completely satisfied by attending there. Thank you. There are stories on both sides of that issue. So joining us now to discuss it all, mark preston, and cnn political commentator matt lewis. Great to have you all with us. Let me start with you. Is Hillary Clintons attacks on or just highlighting some of the Trump University stories, can she point out that if sort of regular Vulnerable People were fleeced, is that a different thing than what weve heard in her attacks in the past . Absolutely. Its one thing if donald trump is going at it with creditors over a bankrupt casino. Thats something beyond most peoples experience. You start bringing in real people, real people who say theyve been cheated it starts to matter more. When you have Something Like the state attorney general suing him, this is now Hillary Clinton is not the first and only person making these accusations. Shes coming in after the class action lawsuit, after the republican nominee from 2012 all sort of pointing to this, it has a little bit more impact and for the hundred odd Million People who have not voted so far, who are coming to this maybe a little bit fresh and amazingly enough may not have been watching cnn what . And watching our coverage for all these months, they may not know what to think of it. Earl makes a good point except for that va zi talk about not watching cnn. But the defense so far, im talking about the politics, its been that this is politically motivated. The a. G. In new york is a democrat, the judge is a mexican and anti trump. The plaintiffs lawyers donated to clinton. Do you think those types of defenses will help . Well, thats certainly what donald trump is going to try to do to muddy the waters and essentially, you know, take on the system here. You know, sort of indict or raise questions about the whole process. I think this could work. This is you know, donald trump has a strong brand and ironically his brand is that he is a man of the people, sort of a you know, the working mans billionaire. And its going to be hard for the clintons or for anybody to chip away and undermine that image, but that its a brand, but if they could do it then that would be incredibly damaging to donald trump and so i think this is something that they have to try to do. Trump is going to try to push back. Hes going to try to say this is politically motivated but if you can make it look like donald trump is a you know, do to donald trump what democrats almost always do to republicans, make this look like hes not concerned about average americans, that would be damaging to him. Bringing up some money making schemes in clintons past, one called white water. Listen to this. These are crooked people. Theyve been crooked from the beginning. They were crooked with white water. Theyve been crocked from the beginning. You look at that foundation, its pure theft and pure crookedness. Okay. I mean white water is complicated as we all know, but will this be effective, going back in time and saying she has things to look at also . What weve been looking at is this incredible race to the bottom between turump and clinton. Donald trump plays this game that hes a man of the people and that can be chipped away. On the other side what weve seen donald trump do right there is to try to erode at her credibility. When youre talking about white water, probably 95 of the people dont remember what white water was and what happened. Isnt that better . The common response is well, thats been so litigated, we had all this congressional committees, there was never a single charge. Theres no there there. But if you dont know that history. But it was so long ago in the context, other than the name white water doesnt provide the context around what happened or what could have happened. He can say that it is crooked or maybe it has problems or where it gets some of its money but i think largely cgi has done some good things as far as thats working though. The unknown is working very well in this election. Whats in my taxes, all that stuff . The cgi is working. People believe theres a lot of nefarious behavior going on and theres been no investigation so theres no way to rebut the presunks. Bill clinton addressed it in an interesting way a few months ago where he said we are dealing with some very unsaverry people and were doing it so we can get the money to help peasant women in bangladesh or whatever the particular issue is and ive been to the events where they bring out some of these people. Theyre doing extraordinary work and so if its managed properly the optics will look like look, yes, we took some money from sketchy characters but heres what we did with it. If youve got something better, bring your model forward is essentially what bill clinton challenged his critics to do. So president obama has largely been on the sidelines waiting for the democratic primary to sort of be cemented before jumping in, but yesterday he couldnt wait any longer and now hes begun to speak out more forcefully about what he thinks the future of the country should look like. In todays economy, we cant put up walls around america. Were not going to round up 11 Million People. If we fall for, you know, a bunch of okay doke, just because it you know, it sounds funny or the tweets are provocative, then were not going to build on the progress that we started. So matt, what do you think . Hes not mentioning trump, but he is alluding to him, so what do you think of that . I think theres a couple really interesting behind the scenes things happening here. So with the first story, you know, Hillary Clinton hitting donald trump on Trump University, i think sort of the underpinning is an acceptance that both of these candidates have problems. Its crooked hillary versus donald trump who perhaps exploits average americans and so the notion that theyre both great people, were done with that and now the question is which of them are on the side of average americans . And thats where that fight is going to happen. In the case of president obama, i think hes working on a different angle chipping away at something different. What donald trump has done is essentially normalize viewpoints that here to fore had been taboo or politically incorrect and i think what president obama is able to do in a way that Hillary Clinton cant is use humor and mockery to very subtly sort of make the argument that donald trump is not normal. Its not cool to support donald trump and i think president obama has this way of mocking donald trump very subtly that nobody else i havent seen anybody else get away with it. So this is a very meticulous and methodic i think strategy utilizing surrogates like the president and hillary to hit Donald Trumps strengths. Stick around. We do want to talk about Foreign Policy with you momentarily. Lets just zero in on the democrats for a moment. Just two points separate Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in the latest poll out of california. Clinton will be campaigning there just five days ahead of the primary on tuesday. She has that Major National security address in san diego today expected to target Donald Trumps Foreign Policy plans. Were joined with much more this morning. Good morning, chris. Youre exactly right. Hillary clinton is set to slam donald trump again today and what her campaign is billing is a major Foreign Policy speech designed to cast trump as a light weight and a security risk. Shell paint trump as unfit to be commander in chief arguing that his policies, things like banning muslims and questioning nato are dangerous and yesterday on the campaign trail clinton gave a preview of what to expect. Donald trump has disqualified himself completely. He has attacked our closest allies. He has said lets pull out of nato. He has praised the dictator of north korea. Hes advocated more countries getting Nuclear Weapons. This will be clintons first Foreign Policy since trump became the presumptive nominee. And this speech is aimed at winning over never trump republicans which are part of that National Security elite and gop women who question trumps temperament. Now aides say clinton will contrast her experience on the world stage with what they say is clintons constant trash talking of america and she will lay out what to do to keep the country safe and prosperous. She really needs to project strength not just against donald trump but also against Bernie Sanders, a new poll showing sanders and clinton neck and neck in california ahead of the states primary on tuesday. Appreciate the reporting as always. We had quite a scare yesterday, i dont know if you were monitoring it but classes are resuming at ucla this morning less than 24 hours after a professor was killed on campus. The shooting sending thousands of students racing for cover. There were all these rumors that there was a shooting spree going on. Local media reporting a disgruntled student killed william klug and then committed suicide, but what led up to that final and fatal confrontation . Were joined live there los angeles with the latest. What do we know now, my friend . Reporter good morning, chris. Well, thats the question that Everyone Wants the answer to and why this devoted teacher was taken so soon. That answer still not out there, but i can tell you as someone who was here on campus, it was a tense couple of hours for the nearly 60,000 people who work and attend school here. Its hard to even fathom it so have your son grow up without a dad is rough. Reporter klug was a husband and father of two. The coach of his tenyearold sons Little League team. Never a negative word. Always very positive. Kids loved working with him because he was such an easy coach to work with. Reporter the professor was inside the same building where he taught his classes wednesday morning. It was a normal day on campus, up towards of 25,000 students. Reporter shortly after 10 00 a. M. Hundreds of police, swat officers and the fbi stormed the los angeles campus after reports of three gunshots coming from one of the schools engineering facilities. Id suggest going back that day. Reporter police shutting down streets and paralyzing parts of the city. People are crying, people are like nervous, theyre shaking. Reporter inside, terrified students scrambled to hide. I closed the door with keys and barricaded the doors and turned off the lights. Reporter some unable to lock the classroom doors, barricading themselves in and tying cords and belts around the handles. Our primary goal is to review all of our security procedures. Reporter the swat team sweeping campus buildings only to find the bodies of professor klug and another as yet unidentified male, a murder suicide. Now, keep in mind that this is finals time here at ucla so Officials Say they want to make sure school is open so students can finish up and get through finals and for those who need to, graduate next friday. Thank you so much for that update. Embarrassing admission from the state department. Someone in their Public Affairs department ordered several minutes cut from a press briefing. It featured a reporter asking whether they were lying about dealings with iran. Now they admit they lied to protect negotiations. The brazos river cresting. Dozens of people have been rescued. Look at the pictures. This cattle, you can see, forced to wade through the waters for several minutes at the very least trying to survive. More inches of rain are in the forecast through the weekend. Well have a live report out of texas in the next hour. Less than a week after he was removed as president over the schools handling over alleged sex assault claims. Starr will continue to teach however. He had been out of the news until donald trump brought it up in the election and now this real situation at baylor. So weve told you about Hillary Clintons Foreign Policy speech that shell be giving today. 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So how do you balance this . Foreign policy, you would think her asset mark preston would be to go very detailed, throw a lot of information in there and different people and different suggestions of expertise, but how do you do that if what you want to do is punch donald trump in the nose . Its difficult because weve seen donald trump literally take out sixteen other rivals to win the nomination. We also know he will go to the inth degree to try to take you out. So Hillary Clinton is trying to counterpunch against donald trump and i think theyre going to find that its ineffective. What she needs to do is try to differentiate herself from him on experience, specifically on issues of Foreign Policy because that is considered a very big weakness for donald trump. For her to try to go punch for punch with donald trump and really try to drag it down into the gutter i think is a failing strategy. But is she laying out her Foreign Policy or is she laying out the absurdity of his Foreign Policy today . Were hearing it from her people, saying he is not eligible, he is not qualified. This is her trying to pick some low hanging fruit. There are some people coming to the race for the first time and to the extent there are voters out there who say hey, Nuclear Weapons for japan and for south korea, im out, i dont want to have any part of that, she can make some inroads. Shes doing the traditional politics. Trump is doing Something Else, but its about scooping up groups of voters in the key states and making sure everything is in place for november. My sense is that shes going to try and do that today and at this phase. Later on, there will be some back and forth and perhaps a debate and i think thats where youll see the contrasting visions but for now i think she wants to announce anybody who thinks what donald trump says is crazy, im here to let you know i have a different point of view and you can join my camp now. Lets look at the polls. We have some polls that suggest who people think about Foreign Policy. This is a poll, he gets 49 to 41 . Is this because he speaks in sort of much more absolutes . Im going to knock them out, im going to bomb them all . I mean, its sort of satisfying. If theyre going to be gone, theyll be gone fast. Absolutely. Were going to bomb the blank out of isis. I think plus weve had president obama who called him the jv team and hasnt been able to adequately, you know, vis rate isis, so i think trump wins big there. If its a question of diplomacy and experience hillary wins. We have that. Let me just show you. Which president ial candidate would you trust more with sending u. S. Troops overseas. Theyre basically neck and neck. Absolutely. But i think there was another question in that same poll that i think look, we should be very concerned about Foreign Policy. We live in a dangerous world and its incredibly important, but one of the other findings in that survey was that people would rather hang out with donald trump at a bbq and that donald trump is the better jobs candidate. So to be honest with you although i think Foreign Policy is incredibly important and Hillary Clinton wants to stress her vastly superior experience in that area, the fact that people want to hang out with donald trump at a bbq, i think i bet thats a more predictive question in terms of voters. We also have a good look now. Lets play what trump said about Hillary Clinton in terms of her preparedness for the job because its just a good contrast and how theyre coming at the issue of Foreign Policy. This is trumps case against clinton. Remember the famous phone call . At 3 00 in the morning shell answer the call. Guess what . She was sleeping she was sleeping like a baby. Dont wake me up. Of course she took the calls from her slimy friends, but she didnt take five to 600 calls. They were calling and calling and she was sleeping and she did that phony commercial. Remember that . That phony commercial, if the phone rings at 3 00 in the morning well, it did ring a lot of times and she was sleeping. Maybe its no energy, low energy. Right . She needed her sleep. Matt lewis, as you well know, theres probably nothing that is true in what donald trump just said. Literally factually is not one thing that he didnt either make up or miscast, however, through the base, is that enough . Well, i think hes muddying the waters. I mean, obviously if it comes down to a question of experience, who has the experience to do diplomacy, to handle Foreign Policy, Hillary Clinton would destroy him. So what donald trump has to do is say look, its not about experience, its about judgment. And i do think his rhetoric there is playing fast and loose, you really could make a pretty compelling argument that although Hillary Clinton has lots of experience, her actual judgment in terms of Foreign Policy and International Relations is dubious at best and i think that that is how donald trump muddies the water. You look at whether its libya, whether its her vote in iraq, Hillary Clinton does not have a great record in terms of things that shes supported to stand on. One of the interesting things to hear of clinton does today, you want to talk about record, it seems that trumps big arrow is i was against the war in iraq. You heard of that . Of course. How come theres no record of him saying he was against the iraq war at that time . Well see. We shall see. Panel, thank you very much, lets get over to anna. 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This more arning w hearing the dramatic 911 calls released moments after a 3yearold boy fell into this gorilla habitat at the cincinnati zoo. One of the recordings paints the horrifying picture as the mother helplessly watched the animal take hold of her son and drag him through the water. Jessica is live in cincinnati for us. These calls paint a clear picture about what happened. Reporter they do. A flurry of 911 calls came through on saturday. The most chilling from the mother of that 3yearold boy as she told dispatchers she could barely stand to watch that uncertain scene unfolding. My son fell in with the gorilla. My son fell in with the gorilla. Theres a male gorilla standing over him. I need someone to contact the zoo. Reporter this mother calling 911 and attempting to console her son. Be calm, be calm. Hes grabbing my son. I cant watch this. How old is your son . I cant watch this. Oh, my god. Reporter six 911 calls from the scene depicted desperation of everyone standing above the gorilla mote. That by biis still in the water and it slammed it against the wall earlier. Okay. Can you is any of the zoo keepers next to you right now . Oh, god, hes taking the baby. Maam, listen to me. He. Hes taking the baby into the cave. Oh, my god. This caller describing something we cant see on video. Harambe taking the toddler even farther into his habitat possibly part of the danger prompting the decision to shoot and kill harambe. One eyewitness explaining to cnn what she saw. This is a child who cannot endure him running across the rocks and grabbing him by one foot. No mother should ever have to watch that. And the Cincinnati Police Department Investigation continues this morning. It will all be reviewed by the county Prosecutors Office, the focus of this investigation, what exactly were the parents of that 3yearold boy doing in the minutes just before he came face to face with harambe . Yes, there are still those questions that people are really anxious to figure out. Also more trouble for brazil. Two months out from the olympics there is a new problem. Not zika. Well tell you what it is, next. Proof of less joint pain and clearer skin. This is my body of proof that i can fight Psoriatic Arthritis with humira. Humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. Its proven to help relieve pain, stop further joint damage, and clear skin in many adults. Humira is the number 1 prescribed biologic for Psoriatic Arthritis. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. 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On the surface, the view of the coast of the olympic host city, pretty spectacular, but the sailors are trying hard to stay out of the water. We dont want to swim in it. They say the bay here is terribly polluted. You hit garbage out here . Yeah. What kind of garbage . A lot of plastic bags, but ive also hit a chair or some wood. Furniture . Yes. Reporter this is the kind of stuff theyre talking about. Look at this trail of garbage. Flip flops, tennis shoes, blocks of wood on the surface of the bay, very close to where the sailors and athletes are training. Rio has been struggling with its notoriously polluted waters for decades. We caught up with the citys mayor at the opening of a brand new Sewage Treatment plant. Do you think the water is going to be safe for the olympic athletes . Yes, i mean, we had first thing because where in the bay the sailing is going to happen, its the cleanest area, the entrance of the bay. But people who make a living at the waters disagree with the mayor. We dont get far in fishermans boat before his motor stalls. The propel ller tangled in a plastic bag. Travel a little further and we find this. It smells awful and not just like mud at low tide but something far more toxic and the fishermen were with says this is basically raw sewage that has washed down out of the city. The untreated waste of millions of rios residents who do not have modern sanitation. It all drains into canals like this where local fishermen moore their boats. We dont fish here, he says. Look at rio now, he tells me. We will host the olympics but we dont even have a basic sewage system. The pollution here one of the sad realities facing residents and now athletes as these upcoming olympics, but these german sailors say theyre willing to risk these dirty waters for their shot at olympic glory. Cnn rio de janeiro. Thank you for that piece. You now understand a situation that before was just a mustry. 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A baby girl was just born in new jersey with zika related birth defects and now theres evidence that mosquitos are active and ready to go to spread this disease. Joining us now the director for the centers of Disease Control who has brand new numbers to share with us regarding the spread of zika this morning. Thanks so much for joining us. Lets be clear. There are still no cases that we know of of the transmission of zika from mosquitos here in the u. S. , but we do know theres a growing number of people who have the virus after traveling elsewhere. What are your latest figures . For the u. S. First off as you say we have not yet seen in the continental u. S. , the mainland, any spread of zika, but weve begun to see spread of other viruses that are spread by the same mosquito, the first case in florida. This shows that mosquito season is here, summer is heating up and so is zika. We now have more than 1,000 cases of zika in puerto rico that are confirmed and reported. Weve seen cases throughout the u. S. We have 341 pregnant women who have evidence of zika infection in the u. S. Including puerto rico, so this is a serious problem. There are some things you can do to protect yourself. Most importantly, if youre pregnant dont travel to a place where skezika is spreading. I want to ask you about the case of the baby born with microcephaly, what do you know about that particular case . We dont comment on individual cases, but what we see with zika is a range of problems with the infant. From very severe problems to milder problems and we still dont know for infants born with a normal sized head if theyll have other Brain Development problems and we may not know that for months or years. Thats why the plain truth here is that we have to protect pregnant women. That means if youre pregnant, dont travel to a place that has zika. If your partner is pregnant and you have traveled, use a condom, and do Everything Possible to control mosquitos and reduce the risk to pregnant women. If you are infected with zika while pregnant, are you guaranteed to have a baby with thee types of problems . Many women have given birth to babies who appear to be normal. We may not know for months or even years whether that baby has other problems, but the highest risk is in the first or second trimester. Every day were learning more so we can protect women more effectively. Just last week you were saying here in the u. S. We are likely to see hundreds of thousands of cases of zika within a year. Are we ready for it . Well, the major risk within the United States is in puerto rico where they have a real challenge and we need to do everything we can to support them because they have had many, many infections that are similarly spread within the continental u. S. Or mainland, were primarily going to see travelers coming back with zika because there are tens of millions of people who go to places where zika is spreading. There are some places in the southern u. S. Where weve seen single cases, thats been the most common pattern with similarly spread viruses or in three different communities we have seen clusters of zika of other infections that are spread like zika, so thats what we might see with zika. The money to provide resources to combat this disease is being held up right now in congress. We mow the president has asked for nearly 2 billion in money to help toward zika efforts. Right now the senate is considering 1. 1 billion. The house has their own bull, how much money is really needed and what cant be done without the money . Its so important that we begin the longterm work now to protect pregnant women better, to better understand what zika does in pregnancy. To come up with better ways to diagnose the infection and come up with a vaccine to protect women from infection and reduce the risk of microcephaly from zika. In the end congress did the right thing with ebola and im hoping theyll do the right thing with zika. But the sooner we get started on these longterm projects, the sooner we can protect women better. Our thanks to you this morning. Thank you. Were following a lot of news this morning. Hillary clinton, donald trump not pulling any punches. Lets get to it. Do you really believe that hillary is president ial . I look extremely president ial. Donald trump is a fraud. Hillary clinton lies. I mean, she lies. We see someone who is unfit to be president. Crooked hillary, she doesnt know what the hell shes doing. Its kind of scary. Ive never experienced anything like this. Its awful. It has not stopped rising at all. Its coming up so fast. Where are we going to do . Hes grabbing my son. I cant watch this. The childs life was in tremendous jeopardy. The gorilla is the true victim here. My heart sank when we heard that gunshot. This is new day with chris cuomo. Good morning. Welcome back to your new day. Anna here, good to have you here as always. If you thought the attacks between Hillary Clinton and donald trump could not get uglier, you were wrong, my friend. Trump taking off the gloves after undergoing a day of intense scrutiny himself. Hes slamming clintons Foreign Policy record insisting she has quote, no actual talent. Clinton firing back accusing trump of being a fraud for ripping off students in his now defungt Trump University. Clinton to contrast her policy with trumps. Lets start with Jason Carroll live from los angeles. Hello to you and good morning. It is very clear these candidates are going to continue to go after each other. Theyre going toe to toe on a number of issues including Foreign Policy. Look for more of the same from both candidates today here in california. Hillary clinton, she lies. Reporter after a day of intense scrutiny over his controversy written Trump University, donald trump launching a barrage of assaults against Hillary Clinton. One of the worst secretary of states in the history of our country. Reporter trump trying to get ahead of a clinton speech today where she criticizes his Foreign Policy proposals including one where trump suggests arming south korea and japan with Nuclear Weapons. They sent me a copy of the speech and it was such lies about my Foreign Policy. They said i want japan to get Nuclear Weapons. Give me a break. Reporter but clinton relentlessly slamming him as a fraud. He is trying to scam america the way he scammed all those people at trump u. Reporter the Democratic Front runner capitalizing on newly released testimony on ex staffers accusing Trump University of unethical, misleading and dishonest conduct, a fraudulent scheme that preyed on the elderlynd uneducated to separate them from their money. Trump and his employees took advantage of vulnerable americans, encouraging them to destroy their Financial Futures, all while making promises they knew were false from the beginning. Donald trump himself is a fraud. Reporter president obama also bringing the heat against trump. He just says well, im going to negotiate a better deal. Well, how how exactly are you going to negotiate that . What magic wand do you have and usually the answer is he doesnt have an answer. Reporter trump unsurprisingly vowing to hit back. Shes going to start campaigning. Well, if he campaigns that means im allowed to hit him just like i hit bill clinton i guess. Right . Well, lets wait to hear what trump has to say about the president at his rally in san jose later today. As for Trump University, his Campaign Team says basically these allegations are all false and his legal team has put forth a number of people who say they were quite satisfied with what they received from trump u. Thanks for that report. Now, Hillary Clinton is set to begin five days of campaigning in california. She has a Major National security address today targeting Donald Trumps Foreign Policy plans. Cnns chris freight joins us with more on that. Reporter Hillary Clinton is set to slam donald trump again today and what her campaign is billing as a major Foreign Policy speech. Clintons Campaign Says shell paint trump as unfit to be commander in chief arguing that his policy things like banning muslims and questioning nato are dangerous and yesterday clinton gave a preview on what to expect. Donald trump has disqualified himself completely. He has attacked our closest allies. He has said lets pull out of nato. He has praised the dictators of north korea. Hes advocated more countries getting Nuclear Weapons. Reporter this will be the first Foreign Policy speech since trump became the presumptive nominee. And politically the speech is aimed at winning over never trump republicans who are part of the National Security elite and gop women who question trumps temperament. Shes also trying to eat into trumps lead among white men and she will contrast her experience on the world stage with what they say is trumps constant trash talking of america and she will lay out what she believes the next president must do to keep the country safe and posperous. Shes going to deliver this speech in california where she needs to project strength not just against donald trump but also against Bernie Sanders. A new poll shows sanders and clinton neck and neck in california ahead of the states primary on tuesday. Thanks so much for all of that. Lets go indepth with what Hillary Clinton plans to say about Foreign Policy today, trumps and her own. We want to bring in jeremy bash. Hes the former chief of staff and a Hillary Clinton surrogate. Thanks so much for being here. Thanks. We have a little preview of what she plans to do. I can put it up on the screen for you and everyone. Shes going to tout her record as tough calls as secretary of state. Shes going to declare donald trump unfit and unqualified for the job. Shes going to stress the presidency and of course its not enough for her to just criticize donald trump. She has to sort of tout what she believes shes done well and so lets talk about her tenure as secretary of state. Because her critics say that it was marked by some tragic failures. What do you think was her greatest success in that role . Well, she has a very strong record as secretary of state. Shell be putting that record forward. Her effort to get diplomatic and to protect our allies all over the world and to really rebuild americas alliances and that is going to be in stark contrast to what donald trump is offering. As ive talked to pentagon leaders and military officials, intelligence professionals and people across the National Security world, theyre really concerned here, because theyre concerned that donald trump is not got the right temperament for the job and were going to be handing this guy the nuclear codes, commanding control of our more than 2 million forces in uniform. You really want someone whose hand is on the button, who lashes out at allies, whos got thin skin, who really says the most unbelievable things about our friends and our enemies, the one who wins applauds from kim jong un, so theres a very stark contrast thats going to unfold here over the next several weeks in this campaign. Lets talk about what some of secretary clintons critics say will come back to haunt her in terms of Foreign Policy and one of them is what happened in libya and in particular, its what president obama calls one of his biggest mistakes as president and that is failing to plan for the aftermath of the ousting of libyan leader. Was that an oversight by mrs. Clinton, a bad judgment call . Well, most certainly we could have all done better. Our country and allies could have done better, but it was incredibly important to give support to the opposition in libya because he was threatening to annihilate the civilian population there. Our allies were going to engage in a military campaign, so i feel very strongly that what we did in libya to support that effort was very important. Its a very challenging task and its something that i think the next president will have to be dealing with and so the question here, because voters going into the election booth in november are going to have a choice. And the choice is going to be whether you want someone who is tested, who has the temperament to be commander in chief, thats secretary clinton or you will have someone whose finger is on the button with the wrong temperament, someone who lashes out, someone who has thin skin. Someone who doesnt understand the importance of allies. Let me show you the latest poll. It also spells out what could be another vulnerability for secretary clinton and that is it asks americans who would best handle isis. And donald trump wins this one. He gets 49 to her 41 . Why do you think americans have that impression . Well, clearly donald trump has no idea what is required to take on isis. To take on isis we have to intensify our military effort as secretary clinton has laid out. We have to engage with our allies in the region. We have toe engage in cyber space, we have to intensify our air campaign against isis command and control. Donald trump has no clue on earth what it takes to defeat terrorism. He has no clue on earth it takes to get our allies together to work on a terrorist threat. It was president obama who called isis the jv team who underestimated them and some say clinton didnt rebuke him for that. She didnt counter that at the time that it was happening and that also makes americans distrustful of the fight against isis. She has laid out in a series of comprehensive Foreign Policy speeches going back to after the attacks in paris and San Bernardino and brussels. Youll hear more about it in the speech today. And that again, is in sharp contrast to Donald Trumps rhetoric. You know, as i talk to people who have served in the pentagon, who have served in our military and our intelligence posts overseas, what they keep coming back to is, we want someone who is a commander in chief, not someone who is a reality tv star, who has no idea what it means to command our nuclear forces, to command our military units and to really lead america on the world stage and i think shes going to put out a positive vision about america and hes going to talk about were a third world country and the world is laughing at us. He fundamentally thinks america is weak and she is going to lay out a very strong positive message about what america can achieve on the world stage to protect our interests here at home. Thanks so much for being here to give us a preview of what secretary clinton will be talking about today. Thank you. All right. We have to keep an eye on texas. Dangerous flooding is just wreaking havoc there and there is more expected through the end of the week. Youre looking at the brazos river. Its already at record levels. The problem, its still rising. Were live on the ground in texas. Whats it like there . Reporter chris, im standing in the river right now. I mean, an inch of the river, but we are a quarter mile from where the river should be. This is not a boat ramp. This is a road that goes down to the river and around the other side of the interstate. The problem is that we are in a tropical air mass right now. If i walk over here to the grass, its just a sloppy mess. You can hear it sloshing below my feet and the grass is like this everywhere. The sun is going to come out today and when it does, its going to evaporate that rain there thats already on the grass back up into the atmosphere and were going to get more and more rain. This is a barrier that goes all the way down to the bottom of the river. Theres a sign that says merge ahead because cars should be coming up this direction. So we are in this Feedback Mechanism where it rains every day. Its a lot like when youre in a drought, you dont get the evaporation and then it doesnt rain every day. There is a tremendous amount of rain to our west. Its going to rain here all day long. Its going to rain here tomorrow. Its going to rain here saturday and it finally ends on sunday. In North Houston they had areas that picked up 6 inches of rainfall in about four hours. Were worried about the flash flooding. I always look for the high water mark, you know, to see where it is, how far its come down. We are still the high water mark. This river is still coming up. It will come up all day today and if we get more rain its going to come up a lot. I may be up this ramp about another 10 or 20 feet tomorrow. Is this because of el nino or why are they getting so much rain . Is there an explanation . Reporter well, originally, yes, because the storms were forced down across mexico early in the year and then up here into texas and now because were saturated with that early in the season rain, now the sun comes out, evaporates the water and it rains again. It rains every single day, so yes, in part el nino, but a couple of years ago we were talking about how this state was devastated by drought. So it just snapped its fingers and all of a sudden were on the other side of the drought. Mother nature. Thank you so much. Stay safe there. A top pentagon official charged after threatening a nanny over a parking spot and then stealing her license plates. The big question this morning, why . Were live in washington. Reporter good morning. It is a bizarre and surprising story having covered the pentagon during the iraq war i talked to Bryan Whitman on numerous occasions. He is one of their top spokesmen and Court Documents confirm the washington spoes story that on april 4th in a capitol hill neighborhood a note was placed on the nannys windshield which said quote, i know youre misusing the visitor pass to park here daily. If you do not stop i will report it. Two days later one of the nannys license plates were stolen and two days after that her second license plate was taken. The nanny replaced the plates and secured it with allen boats, and mounted a video camera from their homes front window. They caught the culprit trying to steal these new plates. They discovered it was Bryan Whitman. He was charged with three counts of misdemeanor theft. They agreed to have this dismissed if he pays restitution, performs Community Service and stays away from the nanny. Thats not even road rage. Thats like parking rage. You know . Its kind of a crazy situation in d. C. , but thank you for that reporting. Okay. Well, president obama reportedly eager to get out on the trail and fire up democrats. He dove right into the fray yesterday. What he said next. Its realizing beauty doesnt stop at my chin. Roc®s formula adapts to delicate skin areas. My fine lines here . Visibly reduced in 4 weeks. Chest, neck face cream from roc®. Methods, not miracles. ™ the republican nominee for president has already said hed dismantle all these rules that we picked. That is crazy. Have we really forgotten what just happened eight years ago . That is president obama hitting the campaign trail at a town hall in elk hart, indiana. He was there to draw distinctions between what he says needs to happen for the country and what donald trump is promising in an economic plan that he called as you heard, crazy. Hes said to be chomping at the bit to get out on the trail . Is that going to hurt . Lets discuss. We have Hillary Clinton supporter and cnn political commentator and donald trump supporter jeffrey lord. Gentlemen, good to see you both. What is the upside of having president obama out on the trail going after trump, trying to help clinton oor whomever the nominee is . This is what a lot of people have been waiting for to be completely honest with you. The upside is the president has an Approval Rating and i dont think theres any question that obama would have a third term. Everything that hes hitting on, all of these metrics that hes hitting on, hes showing the difference between what a true leader is in obama between someone who is very devicive in donald trump, but i will tell you this. This is not only political for barack obama but this is also personal because we have to remember that donald trump is the person that put a 5 million bounty and trying to delegitimize the first African American president of the United States. Trump doesnt want to talk about that anymore, but heres what he had to say about the president hitting the campaign trail. If we fall for, you know, a bunch of okiedoke just because, you know, it you know, it sounds funny or the tweets are provocative, then were not going to build on the progress that weve started. This is a president who doesnt have a clue, and this president now is very hes going to start campaigning. If he campaigns im allowed to hit him just like i hit bill clinton i guess, right . We always like the promise of better to come. To the suggestion, i dont think were going to hear about the birther thing coming out of donald trump this time but what do you think hi counter attack will be . I think one of them will be the economy and it is very interesting, the president s notion that thinks were in terrible shape last year and thats how we got there somehow is because of conservative pollicis. We got there because bill Clintons Administration insisted that banks provide mortgages to people, americans who couldnt afford them. And there was a massive collapse of the economy because of that. So i think this is a great thing. Lets bring it on. Do you believe the economy is Fertile Ground for the democrats . Oh, theres no question about it. Millions of americans agree with me. The fact is we have about 84 straight months of private sector job growth. The Unemployment Rate under the last republican president was nearly two times what it is today. The stock market if anyone looks at their 401 k today versus what it was when president Obama Took Office youll see its gone up 10,000 points. So although wages are flat and although there are things that can do better but were talking about an economy that can do better. I want to switch the topic and ill let you get in on it. But Foreign Policy is going to matter also and the perception of the country within the country right now, is that we are weak. That the situation in the world is worse after the obama administration. How much of a vulnerability do you think this is for him if he hits the trail . Well, i dont think its much of a vulnerability. I think that our country is continuing to deal with a great threat from isis and isil but we have to remember when president obama took over in office the greatest threat was alqaida. We were on the hunt that weve seen in the century and now hes not here anymore to pose that threat to this country anymore. And so they have been tough choices made by this president and we still have yet a ways to go in combatting isis and isil but we are a lot stronger than we were. So i think that americans will look at and theyll support the president and secretary clinton. Jeffrey . Yeah, iraq is a mess. We were on the verge of victory there. We were fine. I mean, you can argue whether we should have gone in or not, but once there, we did the job and president obama took out the troops and dessimated the place and there is isil in its place. So thats not much of a record here and thats before you get to libya. Thats before you get to bengha benghazi. Where was he at 3 00 in the morning when the call came in . The russian reset, all of these things are a disaster. So i think this is why Donald Trumps numbers on Foreign Policy, they believe he would be stronger with dealing with isis are so high. You guys did a very good job of laying out both sides of the argument and now the people can decide what they want to hear and well give it to them going forward. Thank you very much. Well, the lesser of three evils is how some have really positioned this race, the 2016 president ial election. New york times columnist tells us he came up with hi answer when he looked at who is telling the biggest whoppers on the campaign trail. Hell tell us who it is, next. Hoplenty fast. . Its not how fast you mow, its how well you mow fast. Its not how fast you mow, its how well you mow fast. Even if it doesnt catch on, doesnt mean its not true. The John Deere Ztrak z535m. Its how well you mow fast. Of fixodent plus adhesives. 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Still our next guest believes clinton is more honest than her rivals in this race. Hes the author of the book hot, flat and crowded. Great to have you here in studio with us. Thanks so much. Let me read a portion of your new column. You say hillarys fibs or lack of candor are all about bad judgments she made on issues that will not impact the future of my family or my country. Private email servers all really stupid but my kids will not be harmed by those poor calls. Oh, boy. I mean, her critics will say that youre spinning you call what she says fibs, untruths, and you call what her rivals say lies. Why . Well, its very simple. Again, im really caring about whats going to affect me and my family and her speaking at goldman sachs, even her really bad judgment around emails is not going to i think affect me or my country, but when someone comes out with an economic plan for my countrys future thats going to drive up the deficit according to nonpartisan economis economists, the only way we can afford it is if we cut the defense budget, the Research Budget and education budget, those are burger king double whoppers that will affect the entire country. Im not trying to diminish what she says what shes done but bad judgment also affects you and your future if the president has bad judgment. What kind of bad judgment is not being able to do math . 10 trillion, thats pretty bad judgment. Its a suggestion. When i get in there well make it work, so lets talk about what we can look at to trust what will happen once we get in there. Email is not a fib, its not a small thing. It matters. That ig report is filled with things to discuss. The fbi discussion is ongoing. The clun ton Global Initiative has unspoken questions that she doesnt want to get out there about. Benghazi looms large in terms of would clinton put life on the line in a risky way. None of those are small categories. All go to judgment and probably are a big chunk of her unfavorable. How can they be dismissed . They didnt be dismissed. I think if youre concerned about iraq, ben za zi, all those things, you cant when i weigh these things, Fact Checking Organization Says three quarters of the time hes not speaking the truth, thats a bad batting arcverage, but what i ce about, is what is your vision for the country and if your plan is to come in and bust the budget not just a little, not just just some extra, if youre out there selling the American People a budget that is utterly unrealistic, by the way, not just that, if youre telling people mexico is going to build a wall, theyre going to pay for it, were going to evict 11 million Illegal Immigrants, these are giant whoppers that im not saying that hillary is, you know, innocent of this. Im saying if youre saying shes the only one untrustworthy here, lets balance whos telling what. These are giant whoppers that will affect your kids. But youre actually saying that they are her rivals are telling bigger whoppers and of course secretary clen tons critics always bring up benghazi and they say that is a threat. Four americans were killed, she said different stories at dumpt times that those were lies. How have you made peace with that if you dont think that one was a whopper. My view about benghazi is simple. If you have an american diplomat in a country thats highly unstable, theres only one way that person can be protected and that is if the host government has security on the ground to protect them. If we would have had 12 more, thats just 12 more people that would have been killed. Benghazi was a disaster waiting to happen. And you dont see the shifting narrative after wards as i do. Theyre all fibs, im not even im not trying to defend those. Im saying if you think shes the only one if you think shes the only one whos shading the truth here, not only is she not the only one, but these people over here, the things that they are misleading you on are huge. So this is a relative argument. Im not saying yeah. But heres the thing. Its inherently frustrating when your best case is theyre both liars, you know, hes a liar too and im immediately unsatisfied. You know what i mean . In terms of assessing it. If you read my column. Word for word. The point is i wish we had better choices. Okay . And im not here to defend hillary. If you read my column you know youre apportioning things. Im saying if trustworthiness is the issue, then lets look at the whole story. You also want to defend her fibbing call the Clinton Campaign. We have them on all the time. The theme is though clintons come first. If you go back until the 80s, literally, most of us grew up in this business with this stuff, the theme is consistent, they get in trouble, or there are allegations, they get vetted and somehow its what they did after whatever this was is what caused the problem. I want to tell you what im referring to. Were about to have an election that is going to determine all three branches of government. This is a huge moment. I wish we had better choices. We dont. Weve got these three choices and given these three choices youre going to have to make a choice and im going to make the choice over the person i think is the most practical unifier, number one, and whos lying, whatever you want to call it i think is less significant or is of equal proportion to the other two and where it comes down for me and the country, im going to go there. Thats all im saying here. Im not here to defend her in the least. Ive got to make a choice. All right . You know, the people i want to run, theyre not on the menu. This is the menu, this is a critical time. Youve got to make this choice. Whos lying, okay . I happen to care about huge lies about the future of my country rather than lies that are about someone elses judgment. If you come out in another place, god bless you. Vote for Bernie Sanders or donald trump. Lets talk about Bernie Sanders, you say in your column i think the ideology bernie is selling thats single admission that youre talking about there. Where are the lies . Hes got an economic plan out there that he thinks the country can possibly afford or pay for. Free college, universal health care. Yeah, a family leave, we are talking about a huge change in our economy that could only be paid for by radical reductions in our defense budget, education and research and would leave a debt burden on our kids that would be absolutely onerous for a generation. So what do you call that . Youre saying he hasnt spelled that out. Im saying other people have spelled that out and hes out there selling it. Whose nonsense do you think is most dangerous . How did we get here . How did we get here . Oh, man, thats because look at the firsts that were dealing with. Weve never had unfavorable like this coming out of conventions. Youve never had one on trial for fraud and the other the fbi looking at them. We have an environment now, in the media, all of us, its so noisy out there. When you pound on someone, benghazi, or any of these issues over time it all just seeps in. All right . Its incredibly noisy out there now, but we have to look at this situation, we have a man running for president who when he tells the truth its breaking news. Thats called donald trump. Okay . We have a guy out there who just this week insulted a federal judge who is overseeing a case he is involved in referred to as a mexican as if that should be an insult. We have a guy who is talking every day in this country in ways you wouldnt want your fiveyearold kid to talk. Thats the choice we have. Im not here to defend Hillary Clinton. Okay . If i were nominating i would be nominating someone else but weve got to make a choice and i think if you make a choice for this kind of man who is speaking this way, the impact on the country, do you realize the impact the president has in the language we use around the country, how people respond to that, how people mimic that . If you give an okay nobody hears it more than we do. I promise you that. Whats interesting is that the way his supporters see it is that somebodys finally telling the truth. Theyre dispensing with political correctness. Theyre calling it like it is. It might be insulting but theyre not spinning it. Thats how his supporters see it. Youre talking about you dont like the tone i dont like the tone and substance. But what youve cited he hurls insults. They might be the truth. Look, you know, telling it like it is, you want to tell it like it is . Is it does anyone here believe that mexico is going to build a wall on this border . Does anyone believe that we can carpet bomb isis out of existence, thats all thats missing is a few extra bombs . Is that really telling like it is . It sounds like straight talk. Its full of test tost roaoster. Were in a world today, if i were running for president and someone said, you know, how do we respond when the phone rings at 3 00 a. M. In the morning . You know what my answer is . Dont answer it. Thats what my answer is. We have never been in a world since ive been covering Foreign Policy 35 years that is as messy as it is now . We have gone from having to manage strength to managing weakness. And managing weakness, weakness in allies and weakness in countries that are falling apart, where the only option you have is to rebuild them, that is hell on wheels. I wouldnt want to be running Foreign Policy today on any decision. So to come in now like trump saying all thats missing is a little testosterone, someone who has the balls to take down isis, ill tell you what happens, we have to go door to do in mosul, and then we own mosul because iraqis cant agree on who should control mosul the morning after. So for the third time invade iraq, then they couldnt agree, do the search, then they couldnt agree. Take mosul, then they couldnt agree. These are incredibly messy situations and if you treat them as if its just a testosterone, hes telling it like it is, well, youll get what you deserve. One of the complications with covering donald trump is that he changes what he says. So for instance he will say yes, maybe its time for japan to defend itself, maybe they should have Nuclear Weapons as ill play it for you and we can talk about what hes said in the past 24 hours. They said i want japan to nuke, i want japan to get Nuclear Weapons. Give me a break. Japan has a problem with that. They have a big problem with that. Maybe they would in fact be better off if they defend themselves. We played that in reverse. He said theyd be better off defending themselves with nukes and then he claimed he never said that. Were in this place in time where politicians evolve on things. Thats another euphemism but its hard to you have to give it to somebody if somebodys changed their position, what are we to say . Look, ive changed my position. We all change our positions. I tend not to change every position every other day. And thats what were dealing with here. I dont envy you, your jobs having to do this. I get to opine about it, but the fact is we have someone running for president who in my experience has done the least amount of homework, serious deep thinking and study on the biggest issues facing the country. And one of the reasons one of the manifestations of that is precisely this. Hell blurt something out and someone comes along and then you get the opposite. Thats a manifestation of someone who hasnt done the original homework in the minimum way. So if you want someone like that for president youre going to get, i think, someone who is deeply unstable on major issues. Heres what weve learned sitting at this table. Donald trump is the face of americas frustration, their fear, and their anger. And with those emotions also goes along a different analysis of behavior. You dont hold yourself to the same standards of what you say and how consistent it is and how correct it is or how right it is. They reject the status quo. Im going to disagree with you. Hillary clinton checks every box of someone who is tired of politicians who say one thing and do nothing. No question, chris m i think what youre seeing is people are bored and theyre cynical. I think theyre cynical that washington can do anything, that government even matters so what the hell, lets have a reality tv character. I think thats as much going on as the other. I think people are bored and theyre cynical and thats a tragic problem and its a problem not only of obama the last ought years, its also a product of a party who spent the last eight years trying to make government not work so obama would fail and after a while people think it doesnt matter. Money and politics is out of all control and so people say it doesnt matter. Lets have fun. Hes incredibly entertaining. I see it differently. I think people are sick of being promised things. Voters say theyve been promised things by their politicians and then the politicians get to washington and they betray them. Thats when the cynicism comes in. Theyre promising theyre going to vote against it, and then theyre promised it isnt going to pass, but it does. Im going to vote somebody who is going to do what he promises and thats why were all here talking about that. Were just changes every 15 minutes. So which word is he changing. The bar is low because theyre used to that because of the system already. Having had the benefit of getting to travel a lot and understand the world from abroad as well as from within, do you see any resonance or echo of your concerns about trump anywhere else . I think whats going on globally, chris, is that basically were in the middle of an incredible Inflection Point around technology, around climate and around globalization. I think its blowing up weak countries, and blowing up the politics of strong countries including our d. C. And europe as well. I think were in the middle of three accelerations at the same time. We see how everything is changing. Our politics is set up. Our two parties to respond to the new deal in the industrial revolution. Now, where i would give trump credit is that hes basically remade the republican party. Hes basically saying our platforms can no longer respond to the world at large. I dont think hes got the right counterresponses. I think were many the beginning though, of the complete remaking of our two party system. Do you think theres a sense from leadership abroad that hes the danger that you predict he could be . Trump . I dont think they take him particularly seriously. And thats my point. Whatever they think, i dont really care. I got one country. I have a friend who said to me once, you know, you americans, you kick this country around like its a football. Well, its not a football. Its an egg. We can break it, we can drop it and if we elect someone who is so fundamentally unqualified and done so little homework on the major issues of the day, do i wish we had better choices . You bet i did. But were going to have to choose one of these three characters and im going to pick one thats going to do the least damage and has the most potential to lead in an effective way. If someone has a fourth option out there im happy to listen to it but we have to make a choice. Were in the middle of a gigantic Inflection Point and if we get this wrong, we cannot afford eight years to ignore Climate Change, to treat Climate Change as a chinese plot as donald trump said to us. We cannot afford eight years to not have a proper education infrastructure, to waste money building a wall, we have got to get this right. You cant just not govern the country as weve been doing for the last eight years. Great to hear your words in person, not just read them on the page. Thanks so much. You should be here more. Any time. These discussions come up from time to time. I enjoyed it. I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Another important discussion this morning former Trump University workers are now speaking out and some of them claim that trumps school was a lie, a fraud, a scheme to bilk people out of money. What do the former students think . Well hear from two with very different opinions still ahead. Ahhh the sweet taste of victory prilosec otc. One pill each morning. 24 hours. Zero heartburn. All right. Were going to talk about the fraud trial against the nowdefunct Trump University. I keep using quotes because the organization was told it couldnt call its a university anymore so thats why its in quotes. You have an attorney general after it and multiple class action lawsuits. Documents called play books that contained the practices and priorities that were just released by one judge certainly raise questions. And this is about a lot of people and money. Between 2005 and 2010, the university enrolled more than 10,000 students and took in more than 40 million. Thousands of those former students are now suing, calling trump deceptive and fraudulent. Former employees say the goals were to make money as quickly as possible, prey upon the elderly and uneducated and they allege the instructors had it will to no experience. Trump, for his part, puts out different employees but mainly students that say they had a good experience. He rejects the claims and refuses to give in. Take a listen. I have a judge whos very, very unfair. He knows hes unfair and ill win the Trump University case. I could settle that case. I could have settled it. I just choose not to. In fact, when i ran they said why didnt you settle up that case . I dont want to settle up the case. Two things that are important to note about this judge. One, he agreed with trumps lawyers and continued the date for these lawsuits. So trump got the ruling he wanted. Second, trump nor his attorneys have ever moved to have this judge removed for any of the reasons he just said on the podium. With that out of the way, lets discuss the experience with actual people who went to this school. Trump university students. We have jesus castillo, who praises the program, says it worked for him. And bob gilla who says it didnt work for him, hes suing. Bob, whats the most important thing for people to know about your experience . First of all, i worked for a Service Company for over 28 years and i knew that in order to file a document in the state of new york with the words university, college, school it had to be approved by the department of education. I looked up on the web site of the department of state and i found out that Trump University llc was a legitimate filed limited Liability Company so i figured, hey, this is a real school. I went to a threeday seminar and it was headed by a man by the name of james harris who was probably the best motivational speaker ive ever heard of in my life and james harris kept showing us the video that we just showed about donald trump and donald trump said i personally interviewed all of these students sorry. Instructors. All of tease instructors and they are experienced in real estate. And i listened to this for three days, friday, saturday, and sunday. And at the end of the three days, i said to myself well, i said based upon trumps experience in real estate, the fact that hes a multibillionaire, it sounds like a good deal. And james harris was telling me, guys, donald trump is a multibillionaire, he doesnt need your money, hes just benevolent and offering this course to you guys so that you can become successful Real Estate Investors as he is. So what was the bad side . The bad side of it was that it was all a scam. How . First of all, i got absolutely nothing out of the course in all of the four, three days workshops that i attended because most of the stuff was available on the internet. The instructor would say if you want to know what your deductions are for the irs as a business corporation, go to irs. Gov. Hey, i knew that already. All right, hold on one second. Jesus, you had a very different experience. Why do you believe that it was what you signed up for and worked for you . Well, i just had good results after the course. I took every single part of the course, i did the whole thing, i did the mentorship and i had actually a good followup after every deal that i did and i made my money back on my first deal right after i finished the whole course. So i had a great experience. You believe that the course taught you things that you were able to put in into practice and made you money . Yeah. Quickly. Quickly. You, of course, have to do your home work. Its not going to the instructors werent there to tell you, well, youve got to do this, youve got to do that. They were only there to give you a guideline of the things that you can do to make deals and how to structure a deal and how you can work with multifamilies, commercial properties. Every single instructor that was there had an experience in the real field out there. That was my experience and im really glad i went there. So why didnt you have an experience like jesus . I know you didnt go to the same place at the same time and there will be a variability of different instructors but could this just be about your ability to put in into practice the things the way jesus did . Absolutely not. All of the forms were generic forms that were not fileable in new york state. Im a resident in new york state. Im going to buy and sell property in new york state. You have to have forms that are complying with the statute of new york state and every one of these threeday workshops was just a scam to get you to pay more and more and more money. One of them was called the Wealth Preservation workshop. It was handled by trumps attorney mr. Childers who comes from little rock, arkansas. And he wanted to sell a package worth, i believe, 10,000 to do to organize a corporation or limited Liability Company and i could do that myself. I didnt need him. And it was every one of these was an upsell to get you to pay more and more and more money. After the first day of the actual workshop after the seminar given by james harris i knew that i was scammed and i started doing research. I filed foya requests with tia department of state and the attorney general and i found that my experience was not unique. Well, thats what the attorney general said, but jesus you had a very different experience and we want people to know that, too, because there were plenty of people who say it was a success. As we learn more about the trial, jesus, well come back and see if it squares with your experience. Bob, you as well. Appreciate you setting the table for us. There will be many conversations about this as the story goes forward. President obama seems ready to hit the campaign trail and take on trump. What will that mean . Lets get to it. Hillary is a person with absolutely no natural talent. Trump took advantage of vulnerable americans. These are crooked people. He is trying to scam america. He just says im going to negotiate a better deal. What magic and with do you have . We have had an on campus shooting, there are two deceased. We have all the lights off, our windows are blocked. One of the scariest half hours of my life. Our primary goal is to review our security procedures. My son is down with the gorilla. Hes dragging him from one end to the other. Oh, my god. Hes dragging my son, i cant watch this. I will never forget it, it was absolutely horrific. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to your new day, its thursday june 2, ana cabrera is with us this morning. Great to have you here. The insults and attacks continue in the race for the white house, donald trump in a take no prisoner mode after enduring an intense day of scrutiny regarding Trump University. Trump ripping hunk, illary clin insisting she has no natural talent. Clinton said insults are not enough and then she had a whopper for donald trump saying he is a fraud and today she says shell show the difference between the two on Foreign Policy in a major speech. She says shell outline what her staffers call the difference between policy and puffery. Lets dig into what that could mean. We have the 2016 election covered the way only cnn can. Jason carroll starts us off live in los angeles. Jason . Good morning to you, chris. Trump and clinton squaring off on a number of issues, including Foreign Policy. Expect to hear more attacks from both candidates as they hit the road here in california. Hillary clinton, she lies. Reporter after a day of controversy over Trump University, donald trump unleashing a barrage of insults against Hillary Clinton. Hillary is not a talented person. One of the worst secretaries of state in the history of our country. Shes not qualified because she has bad judgment. Reporter trump trying to get ahead of a clinton speech today where she criticizes his Foreign Policy proposals, including one where trump suggests arming south korea and japan with Nuclear Weapons. They sent me a copy of the speech and it was such lies about my Foreign Policy that they said i want japan to nuke. Weapons. Apan to get nuclear give me a break. Reporter that policy one hes actually called for multiple times. North korea has nukes, japan has a problem with that. They have a big problem with that. Maybe they would, in fact, be better off if they defend themselves from north korea. With nukes . Including with nukes, yes. Reporter clinton unleashing her sharpest attacks yet against the presumptive nominee relentlessly slamming him as a fraud. He is trying to scam america the way he scammed all those people at trump u. Reporter the democrat i can run frontrunner capitalizing on newly released testimony from former staffers of accusing Trump University of inethical, misleading and dishonest conduct, a fraudulent scheme that preyed on the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money. Trump and his employees took advantage of vulnerable americans encouraging them to destroy their Financial Futures all while making promises they knew were false from the beginning. Donald trump himself is a fraud. Reporter president obama also bringing the heat against trump. He just says im going to negotiate a better deal. Well, how exactly are you going to night . What magic and with do you have and usually the answer is he doesnt have an answer. Reporter trump, unsurprisingly, vowing to hit back. Hes going to start campaigning. Well, if he campaigns, that means im allowed to hit him just like i hit bill clinton, i guess, right . [ cheers and applause ] ana, its strange he says allowed to hit him when quite frankly hes been doing that all along. He hits the president at every single one of his rallies. Nothing new there. In terms of the allegations about Trump University, Trumps Campaign basically dismissed those allegations and trumps legal Team Released the names of several people who say they were satisfied by everything that they received from trump u. Ana . Jason carroll, thank you. Hillary clinton planning to hit back today, campaigning hard in california. Shes going to be there the next five days trying to bring home a victory next tuesday but shes not focusing her attacks on her primary opponent. Today shell deliver a major policy speech focused largely on the dangers of Donald Trumps Foreign Policy plans. Cnns chris frates with more on this ang this will mole this mo. Good morning, chris. Good morning, ana. Hillary clinton is set to slam donald trump once again today in what her campaign is billing as a major Foreign Policy speech designed to cast trump as a lightweight and a security risk. Clintons Campaign Says shell paint trump as unfit to be commander in chief, arguing his policies, things like banning muslims and questioning nato are dangerous. And yesterday on the campaign trail, clinton gave a little preview of what to expect. Donald trump has disqualified him completely. [ applause ] he has attacked our closest allies. He has said lets pull out of nato. He has praised the dictator of north korea. Hes advocated more countries getting Nuclear Weapons. This will be clintons first major Foreign Policy chief since trump became the presumptive gop nominee so shes going to focus her fire on trump and politically the speech is aimed at several key audiences. Shes trying to win over never trump republicans who are part of the National Security elite and gop women who question trumps temperament. Shes also trying to eat into trumps lead among white men. Aides say clinton will contrast her experience on the world stage with what they say is trumps constant trash talking of america and clinton will lay out what she believes the next president must do to keep the country safe and prosperous. Chris, back to you, my friend. All right, it will be interesting to see some policy being discussed and some contrast being drawn. Well wait for that. Lets talk about what the implications are of all this in the news with Donald Trumps National Campaign cochairman and policy advisor mr. Sam clovis. Sam, good to see you. Good to see you, chris. So lets check the boxes with whats in the news and get your response. We just had tom friedman on very impassioned saying he wishes we had better choices but we dont. Hes come up with the metric for the impact of mendacity, which lies will hurt you most and he says hes seeing clinton as a less of a liar, i guess what youd call it. Heres a clip of his sound. I want your response. The fact is we have someone running for president who in my experience has done the least amount of home work, serious thinking and study, on one of the issues facing the country. And one of the manifestations is precisely this. Hell blurt something out, someone says korea and japan. And then you get the opposite. Thats a manifestation of someone who hasnt done the original home work in the most minimum way. Sam clovis, your response . Well, honestly, you know, i watched with great interest your interview with tom, ive seen tom many times and seen him in public and i am not going to sit here and cast aspersions on a celebrated book writer and columnist for the New York Times. I think tom is entitled to his own opinion. I thought a lot of the things he offered were based on false premises and talked about a lot of things and i would argue that with him directly if we had the opportunity to talk over coffee. I honestly dont think this is about whether or not we have someone who has not done their home work. Ive been with mr. Trump on countless occasions. I know how much indepth he goes. I think he says things to get people stirred up. We wouldnt be talking about Immigration Reform today if it were not for mr. Trump. We wouldnt be talking about review of our trade agreements without the dialogue from mr. Trump. We wouldnt be talking about reviewing our alliances with nato and our support for israel if it hadnt been for mr. Trump and i just to give you a quick example. I met with a group yesterday and i dont into who they are but theyre Eastern European people representing an Eastern European country that were absolutely totally disarmed and dismissive of how weak the United States has become in Foreign Policy. And theyre looking to mr. Trump as a person who if he delivers on what he says will be exactly the kind of person to reestablish the strength of this nation not only in United States but across the world. So let me play you a piece of sound that friedman was pointing out to that shows an inconsistency about the ability to marshal americas power. Lets play the sound about japan. They said i want japan to nuke. I want japan to get Nuclear Weapons. Give me a break. North korea has nukes. Japan has a problem with that. I mean they have a big problem with that. Maybe they would, in fact, be better off if they defend himself. With nukes . Including with nukes, yes. Including with nukes. Now, you understand that is an obvious inconsistency or is there an explanation for that. I think its the context of the second conversation there is the fact he was asked a hypothetical and a lot of this is in the context of what the campaign has offered up many times that the United States today without the Strong Economy we dont have the global reach that we should have and sometimes other countries are going to have to do things that i may or may not have had to do in the past to defend themselves because we simply cant be there all the time until such time as we can get our economy back up to speed and were able to extend the umbrella of the United States security blanket on the rest of the world. Understood, but either you believe japan should have nukes or you dont. Well, he was asked a hypothetical, chris. Be careful, chris. Be careful. You can ask me a hypothetical if you want, if i dont believe japan should have nukes my answer will be no. I think he was saying under the circumstances it may be necessary for countries to arm themselves appropriately and whether we want that to happen is not the same as saying if under those circumstances if its in japans interest perhaps they ought to do those things. Thats the nuance that i dont think were getting at. I understand the nuance. Its important. And thats why i have you on. One of the other things that is more simple, less nuanced. A big spear during the primaries for donald trump has been you were for the iraq war and i wasnt. He used it probably a hundred times in the primaries. Right. There are now questions about is that true . We know after the war started and later on trump said he was against it. This is a man who is on the record all the time certainly back then 2000. We havent been able to find anything where donald trump said he was against the iraq war while it was being debated. Is there something that can be provided by by the campaign . Wouldnt you argue thats not nuanced, thats about whether its true or false. I cant address that, chris, i dont know. But it matters, right . I suppose it could matter. But i do think his that his position he has stated is very accurate and there is a lot of evidence that supports the fact that he was against the war once the war started. At the time . I was against the war after the war started myself. I just left the military. I had a son in the military who was over there fighting and i became very adamantly opposed to the war after it got started because i didnt see a path to victory. I didnt see a way for us to extract ourselves and i honestly couldnt see why the blood and treasure of this country was another place when we didnt n have any clue what we were doing with our kids. All highly reasonable, especially when you had blood on the line and im sorry you had to go through that, you know, that sam. But thats not what were talking about. Were talking about something he said that matters to people and it was about a timing issue as well. Sam clovis, we always welcome the proof on that and i always appreciate the explanation of your positions. Always great to be on with you, see you again monday. I hope so, take care, sam . Alisyn . Authorities are still trying to determine what led up to the fatal confrontation at an ucla campus. Stephanie elam joins us live with the latest. What have you learned, stephanie . Alisyn, it was a tense couple hours on the campus of ucla as students were preparing for finals and then told they had to stay locked in place while police looked for an active shooter. Its hard to fathom it, to have your son grow up without a dad is rough. Reporter loved ones grieving over the shooting death of ucla Professor William klug. He was the coach of his 10yearold sons Little League team, the father of two. Never a negative word, always positive, kids loved working with him because he was such an easy coach to work with. Reporter the professor of mechanical and Aerospace Engineering was inside the same building where he taught his classes wednesday morning. It was a normal day on campus, upwards of 25,000 students. Reporter shortly after 10 00 a. M. , hundreds of police, swat officers and the fbi stormed the los angeles campus after reports of three gunshots coming from one of the schools engineering facilities. Id suggest going back that way. Reporter the campus on lockdown, police shutting down streets and paralyzing parts of the city. People are crying, people are nervous, theyre shaking. Reporter inside, terrified students scrambled to hide. I closed the door with keys and barricaded the doors and turned off the lights. Reporter some unable to lock the classroom door, barricading themselves in and tying cords and belts around the handles. Our primary goal right now is to review our security procedures. Reporter security cameras capturing the swat team sweeping campus buildings only to find the bodies of professor klug and another as yet unidentified male, a murder suicide. The campus is reopening today in classes except for in the engineering buildings but they say theyll have students working back towards finals which begin on monday and graduation, which will happen on next friday, chris. All right, thank you very much, appreciate it. Over to you, ana. A terrified mother frantically calling 911 moments after her child fell in this gorilla habitat at the cincinnati zoo. We have just released recordings that paint heart stopping images as she helplessly watch this is 450 pound animal take hold of her son. Lets get to cnns Jessica Schneider live in cincinnati with more. Jessica . Ana, we have seen that video and now were hearing the panicked phone calls. The most urgent call coming from the mother of that threeyearold boy who told the 911 dispatchers she could barely stand to watch. My son fell in the zoo at the gorillas. Reporter the mother of this threeyearold boy calling 911 amid helpless horror and attempting to console her son from afar. Be calm. Be calm. Be calm. Be calm. Hes dragging my son. I cant watch this. I cant. How old is your son . I cant watch. [ screams ] reporter six 911 calls from the scene depict the desperation of everyone standing above the gorilla moat. Bystanders watching, powerless for ten tense minutes. The baby is still in the water but the gorilla had it. It slammed it against the wall earlier. Okay, is any of the zoo keepers next to you right now . Oh, god. Oh, god, its got his pants hes taking the baby. Hes listen to me, listen to me. Hes taking the baby into the cave. Oh, my god. Reporter this caller describing something we cant see on video, harambe taking the toddler even farther into the habitat, possibly part of the imminent danger prompting the dangerous animal Response Teams decision to shoot and kill harambe. One eyewitness explaining exclusively to cnn what she saw. It was a child who cannot endure this gorilla running across the rocks and dragging him by one foot, it was absolutely horrific and no mother should ever have to watch that. Oh, many i god reporter this investigation still unfolding. Cincinnati Police Working with the Prosecutors Office to probe the parents and the family to find out how this all happened. Chris . Jessica, thank you very much. Appreciate that. Hillary clinton said to outline her Foreign Policy in a major speech today and also portrayed donald trump as a National Security nightmare. Were going to get perspective from general wesley clark. What matters to americas safety . Next. 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Hillary clinton said to deliver a major speech in california contrasting her Foreign Policy with Donald Trumps plan she calls dangerous. Lets bring in now former nato supreme allied commander and senior fellow at uclas burkel center for International Relations, retired general wesley clark, he supports Hillary Clinton. General, thank you so much for being here. Nice to be with you, alisyn. Lets compare and contrast Hillary Clintons Foreign Policy plans as she is laid them out thus far with Donald Trumps and id love to get your insight. Lets put up Hillary Clintons on the screen. She says this is to defeat isis. Lets start there. She would take out isis strongholds in iraq and syria with more air strikes. She would dismantle the Global Terror Network by cutting off funds. She would strengthen u. S. And allies defense against external and homegrown threats, in part by dealing with disruption of their digital outreach. Lets look at Donald Trumps strategy to defeat isis. He would cut off the revenue stream isis takes in from oil. He would launch more unpredictable attacks. He said he doesnt like that we telegraph our plans to isis to defeat the terror group and he would commit more air power. Those are not really radically different plans, general. Where do you see the difference . Well, i dont see that thats exactly what mr. Trump has said. What hes said is he would consider killing the families of terrorists. He would implement much more extreme measures of interrogation that would include torture and its not clear hes ruled out ground troops. He said a lot of Different Things at a lot of different times and he doesnt stand by what he says so the fundamental difference, the most basic difference is that Hillary Clinton has a reliable, consistent geo strategic approach to protect america. Not just from terrorists but to maintain americas role in the world, which has brought peace and security since world war ii. What donald trump has is pot shots. He has slogans. He has barroom talk. He says one thing one time and Something Else another time. Its not really a policy and we dont really know what his policy is, but what we do know is that our nations allies are very concerned by what he says because its not reliable, its not consistent and it actually promotes the kind of Foreign Policy concerns that are potential adversaries, russia and china, are also promoting. And yet, general, the American Public seems to like what donald trump is saying about isis. Let me show you the latest quinnipiac poll just out. Which president ial candidate would be more effective handling isis, donald trump gets 49 to clintons 41 . He has this way of boiling down his promises into sort of a very satisfying soundbite which is were going to get isis, were going to win. Well, i think Hillary Clinton has said the same thing i dont think what youre getting in the polling is an adequate reflection of how the public feels about their poforeign policies. But we have to be careful when were looking at public response to Foreign Policy. You may remember before the iraq war Something Like 80 of the American People believed we should have that war. 60 believed that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9 11. We know in both cases Public Opinion was no good guide to Foreign Policy so we have to be careful working Public Opinion in Foreign Policy. President s need public support but they cant base a Foreign Policy on polling. I hear you. Lets talk about Hillary Clintons tenure as secretary of state because her critics say her time was characterized by some big failures. They cite, of course, benghazi. They site the situation, the aftermath in libya of the removal of qaddafi and then it destabilized the region. They talk about the genesis of isis. They talk about iraq falling apart. What do you think were her successes as secretary of state . Well, i think first of all that she established, along with the president , obviously, because the foreign policies are actually president obamas. The secretary of state implements it but its president obamas decision. They reestablished american credibility in the world. They reduced our exposure to harm in the middle east. They tried to stabilize afghanistan. They initiated the shift toward greater retention in the pacific to counter some of chinas more threatening moves in the South China Sea and elsewhere. They captured osama bin laden, killed osama bin laden, rather. And so there were a lot of successes here. As far as benghazi, lets talk about benghazi. There was a complete turmoil in north africa during that period brought on in part as a consequence of Climate Change, in part as a consequence of the u. S. Actions in iraq under the Bush Administration and in part of rising expectations. And what they did, president obama and secretary of state clinton, is managed that change. Yes, they did intervene in libya because qaddafi was threatening innocent people there. And did they have enough of a plan for the aftermath . You never know in Something Like this. I would like to have had a better plan. But we stood by in rwanda in 1994 when there wasnt a plan and 800,000 people were killed. We had a plan in kosovo, it worked. Hillary had and president obama had access to all of that. They had the experiences with it. They did the best they could under the with the time constraints that they were faced so i think its really too soon to second guess this because its complicated by isis and tribalism. But i dont think you can say anything other than she was an extremely effective and wellrespected secretary of state. I think she did a great job. Look, all of these things are very complicated and it is hard to boil them down to slogans and well be interested to hear what secretary clinton says about her Foreign Policy today. General wesley clark, thanks so much for your insight. Thank you, alisyn. Lets get to ana. When we come back, well break out the trump legal fight over his now defunct Trump University. Well debate strategy for both the prosecution and defense. Our cnn legal minds join us next. You pay your Car Insurance premium like clockwork. Month after month. Year after year. Then one night, you hydroplane into a ditch. Yeah. Surprise. Your Insurance Company tells you to pay up again. Why pay for insurance if you have to pay even more for using it . If you have Liberty Mutual deductible fund™, you could pay no deductible at all. Sign up to immediately lower your deductible by 100. And keep lowering it 100 annually, until its gone. Then continue to earn that 100 every year. Theres no limit to how much you can earn and this savings applies to every vehicle on your policy. Call to learn more. Switch to Liberty Mutual and you could save up to 509. 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They all arrived from one central charge, that the forprofit school used misleading sales techniques and pitches to lure students into ponying up big money, including the one that you just heard in that Trump University ad. What is the case for and against . Youre hearing a lot about this but in the context of politics. This is about the law. This is a trial. Lets do it that way. Well have on the plaintiffs side cnns legal analyst and senior trial counsel at kalan legal, paul callan. And criminal defense attorney danny cevallos. So plaintiff guess first in these civil suits. What is the main stake that the plaintiffs can bring to play . Well, mr. Trump is off to a particularly bad start. He started off by criticizing the judge as being mexican. Stick to the law, not politics. When those attorneys get up to argue, theyll have a tough case to argue against because Trump University is the veggimatic of public universities. Remember that guy ron poe peel, the pitchman . At least when he sold you the veggimatic it was capable of cut l tomatoes. In this case, trump is trying to sell these students on the idea that hes personally going to be involved. That he has the secrets of successful investing and hell pass it on to them. Of course what the evidence will show is that Trump University existed for one person to fleece the students. Danny cevallos, the main defense to that charge . Its simple, use the judo defense. Say this is like many legal enterprises, like infomercials and like actual universities wh. What do actual universities and Higher Education places actually guarantee . Virtually nothing. The key here for the defense, put forward any actual substantive educational materials. Point at them and say listen, these students may not be satisfied with their education, with their purchase but who really is in this world when it comes to education . We gave them substantive materials and substantive information and that was the value that they paid for. 98 approval rate, by the way, from students. Thats a tony statistic because those students filled out those forms in front of the professors who were teaching them for three days. And the way the scam worked and the reason were calling it a scam is because these students were called in day one theyre paying 1600 to get all of the knowledge that donald trump is going to pass. Donald trump, by the way, never shows up, donald trump never picks the professors as he promised he would. They fill out a credit application. On day two theyre told its time so sign up for the trump gold elite program. Now that may boost the cost to you, the student, from anywhere up to 30,000. Theres one student who paid 60,000. Many of these people were elderly, they drained their 401 k programs to pay the money to learn what . Caveatm or the, buyer beware. Thomas jefferson wrote the constitution and founded the university of virginia as compared to mr. Trump in this case. Whats his legacy going to be . He founded Trump University . Or whos your daddy zblufuniver . The only way you get rich of the trump formula is using your daddys money. Callan is coming at you with a Thomas Jefferson closing. What do you have for that, cevallos. Every time callanicoms back to the constitutional convention, i roh hes reaching. Yes there are people coming forward saying i was pressured to do that but mr. Callan how will that look when you crossexamine that person. Sir, you filled out this form, you said you liked it. Do you typically sign and put your name to things that you dont agree with . And whatever that person answers is going to be a massive, massive loss of credibility. So these witnesses danny, on just one question, you representing mr. Trump in this lawsuit, are you going to roll in the cardboard cutout picture of him that the students who paid upwards of 30,000 were treated to during the course of their education at the Trump University . By the way, i cant call it Trump University, of course, because the state of new york has banned the use of that name because its not really a university, its more like veggimatic university. Thats got to sting, cevallos, what do you have far . Iffy that i go back to the same thing. What did these student, if you call them students, what did they reasonably expect and what would a jury looking at what their expectations were really find reasonable . Thats the question. Thats two questions. Let him finish. If you only wanted to meet donald trump if you paid that money and the only reason you paid it is because you thought you would meet donald trump, is that a reasonable expectation and what the university promised . Probably not. Look, the defenses move is to compare these practices not to fraudulent practices but too mere puffery. Puffery. Good term. Puffery, what is puffery . Whats puffery, cevallos . Last point . The difference between puf r puffery and fraud is a fine one. But generally courts look to the specific claims about a product rather than general product claims and whether or not those specific claims induce it had plaintiff to rely on those promises in other words, so the defense is Trump University is guilty but not that guilty. Thats sounds like the cevallos defense is to me. I dont know, i wont let you speak for cevallos. This was very helpful because this is not about politics. This is about what will happen at trial. Danny, thank you very much. Paul callan, as always, a pleasure. So now that you understand this not just as politics but as law, im telling you, this is not fictional. Youll hear these arguments made as this trial comes to bear, so what do you think . Tweet us at new day or post your comment on facebook. Com newday. Remember the daisy ad of a bomb exploding before the 1966 president ial campaign . Coming up, the man behind that ad and the kind of ad he would create for this Campaign Season. Time for the five things to know for your new day. Donald trump ripping Hillary Clintons Foreign Policy resume calling her a failure at the state department and a woman with no actual talent. Hillary clinton fires back today as she begins a fiveday Campaign Swing through california. She starts with a Major National security address targeting Donald Trumps Foreign Policy plans. Police are still trying to figure out what led to a murder suicide on the campus of lauch where a professor was killed by a student leading to these scenes yesterday. Classes resume today but the Engineering School where Professor William klug died remains closed. More dangerous flooding in texas. The brazos river has already hit record levels and its still rising. 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Joining us now, a very special guest, sid myers, he was art director for the ad Agency Behind that commercial and a couple dozen others from, again, 1964. Sid, great to have you here. Nice to be here. I imagine youre looking at this election cycle and kind of chomping at the bit because i know youre still doing work at in that creative arena. What do you see as similarities in 1964 to what we have going on here today . Its so similar its scary. Any one of these commercials can be run now, just change the name. You think so . Especially one that confessions of a republican. You just change the name on that and you could run it just the way it is. Against donald trump. Against donald trump, yes. In fact, i just want to read some of it. I wish we had more of it, heres one. It seems to me were up against a very different kind of man. This man scares me. Maybe im wrong, a friend to me said listen, just because a man sounds irresponsible during a campaign doesnt mean hes going to act irresponsibly. These are the very things. Exactly. How was the delivery, by the way . Not bad. Not bad. Tone it down a little bit. Youre getting too crazy. So you think if you were designing an attack ad against donald trump you would revisit this . What would you do . It would be pretty close to this. I would take whatever he says hes been saying these phrases of getting rid of the mexicans and putting them across the border, you know, if you took made it into a visual what we did was take the goldwater statements and made them into visuals so it became more impactful. I see, so you would take what donald trump if you were working for Hillary Clinton and you were doing an attack ad against donald trump you would turn his idea to deport Illegal Immigrants and you would visually demonstrate that. Could you imagine having thousands of trucks with people being loaded on to trucks in san diego and the line goes all the way down to tijuana and loading up children, loading up old people, babies. It would be its taking the rhetoric and simple statements. Not only that, it harkens back to what happened in 1939 with loading people on to trains and buses so its pretty scary. The visuals could be very powerful. I want to play another ad that you guys designed thats perhaps the most famous of all. Take a look. This is your daisy ad. Then well talk. Seven, six, six, eight, nine, nine ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one. These are the stakes, to make a world in which all of gods children can live. That ad was played once and yet had a lasting impact. I want to read you what the New York Times says about this ad. Within days of its first showing, the little girl with the daisies had come what is probably the most controversial tv commercial of all time. Newspapers were bombarded with letters from angry republicans and dismayed democrats, telephone calls were made to tv stations in protest. Do you take pride in having that kind of an impact . Yes, yes. Thats what it was there for. First of all, we never mentioned goldwaters name. You have to remember that two years before that the cuban missile crisis was happening. The country was so fearful of Nuclear Annihilation that that was in the air and all we did was just take on that commercial and make that impressed on peoples minds that this could happen. What would be the ad of this election cycle . What is the daisy ad of this election cycle, then . [ laughter ] there were a couple of them. You think they were similarly controversial . Theres been no ad thats more controversial than the daisy ad. Well, keeping the muslims from coming in. You could take that and run with it. Youre saying potential fodder for an ad. What do you think the line is when youre doing these ads between this is a fair way to push it and, you know what, this is too suggestive in an unfair way . It has to come from the truth. It has to be truthful. It cant be hyperbole. It has to be truthful. And what you do is look at that truth from a slightly perspective slightly off center point of view because hes been saying build a wall, build a wall, build a wall. And its become so prevalent that it doesnt have any effect anymore. But if you do a commercial and look at what he said about build a wall and look at it from five degrees off center youll get some imaginative some impactive interesting. If the Clinton Campaign gave you a call and said we need you to bring it up, would you say yes . Heres my card. All right, there you have it. Theres the challenge. Thank you so much, sid myers, appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thanks for being here. The good stuff, next. Its my decision to make beauty last. Fix. 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