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Front of him about seven houses collapsing in front of him and two people who were caught in the debris. And fortunately freed from the rubble. Fortunately hes not hurt either. However, the International Organization for migration is reporting at least four people dead east of katmandu. Were still trying to get a sense of the scale of the damage the scale of potential casualties. But this is going to be very very frightening for people who were completely emotionally and psychologically traumatized by the disaster that struck this impoverished country a little bit less than three weeks ago that made so many people homeless. And they will likely be sleeping out in the open again tonight as unfortunately the monsoon season approaches and aftershocks continue to shake this mountainous country. Oh, just so much trouble, ivan ivan. They have not recovered in any stretch from that original one. Thanks so much for the update. Well check back with you. Now to another top story. The nfl coming down on tom brady and the new England Patriots over deflategate. Saying the super bowl mvp will appeal. Cnns john berman is here with more of the story. The nfl guidelines as punishment for altering a football, 25,000, but tom bradys general awareness was so egregious says the nfl and his coverup so egregious it merits a punishment the likes of which the nfl and the players have never seen before. The unprecedented penalties including a fourgame suspension for tom brady came less than a week after the bombshell 243page report on deflategate. I dont have really any reaction. I havent had much time to digest it really. Reporter players throughout the league are reacting to the punishment. We have full belief and faith in our quarterback and tom. And its been like that for me for six years. Thats not going to change now. Someones breaking rules, i understand you know youre going to get punished for it. The report led the league to not only bench the star quarterback but also slap the patriots with a 1 million fine, the highest ever. In another staggering blow the team has to give up its 2016 first round draft pick and fourth round pick in 2017. The nfl is on a mission right now to repair some of the mistakes that theyve made in the past. The Nfl League Office on this one out of control. Reporter bradys agent is blasting the decision saying in a statement, we will appeal and that the discipline is ridiculous and has no legitimate basis. New england fans are showing their support online and beyond. Theres a nobradynobanner pressing the nfl to wait to raise the championship banner until brady is back on the field. I dont want to see a banner without brady. Hes been the franchise. Reporter the patriots owner is also sticking by his player stating, tom brady has our unconditional support. Our belief in him has not wavered. Now, the league said history does matter here. One of the reasons for this harsh unprecedented punishment well the patriots have a history of bending or breaking rules before. Of course 2007 with spygate. But if you are looking for a consistent thread in the severity of punishment issued by the nfl, well youre going to be looking for a while. Chris. Your objectivity stunning given the circumstances of your fandom john berman. Joining us Christine Brennan and mr. Coy wire cnns Sports Correspondent and nineyear nfl veteran. I say this with not a trickle of sarcasm. I hope you two are happy now. Christine brennan, do you like this punishment that was handed down . Do you see some precedent or consistency or promise in it . Chris, i do like it. I like it a lot. I think the bottom line is its not only tom brady cheating its also the lack of cooperation. To me brady really made a big mistake. If hes innocent he needed to turn over the Text Messages the cell phone records, his lawyer could have looked at them and gone through them. This was not just giving away the phone. They had unprecedented agreement to be able to look at specific messages that brady and his agent could have picked for the nfl. He blew it. If hes innocent youve got to do that. He didnt do it. So its the lack of cooperation, as we said chris, as well as the cheating. And i think its consistent with what the new nfl post ray rice. Coy wire you said hey, man, you got rules, you break the rules, you have to pay. Can you find any precedent in League History where Something Like this has been punished this way . Ordinarily 25,000 fine here a guy milliondollar fine two different draft picks. This is the greatest and largest fine in the history of the nfl. 1 million for the organization. If you look at what they did, they actually took spygate and just bumped it up a bit. And i think they did that because this is the second offense for the same organization. It was disbursed differently, but it was spygate it was 750,000 loss of a first round pick. With this youre looking at 1 million for the organization a first and a fourth round pick. Then you have the individual case and scenario with tom brady and his suspension and his fine. And i think when you look at this its warranted. You have an instance where we know the league does not like to be lied to. Goodell does not like to be lied to. The other thing i think is lost in this is this was not goodell who came up with these punishments, this was a former player. Troy vincent. One of the men who has the most integrity men of great integrity and character. One of the best that ive ever personally met. Yes, he does work for the nfl now. But i dont think that he would compromise his own integrity. Although he did get beat up a little bit with one of the earlier Domestic Abuse scandals. People came at him for a bit in what he was doing in that respect. But i hear you. I know hes got a great reputation and hes the right person to put this on. Christine, what does this mean for the league now in terms of what it does with these types of infractions . Because, yes, coys right and everybody else pushing ethics in the situation. A rule is a rule. But rules are enforced different ways. Your toe is on the line thats five yards, grab me by the face mask and throw me to the ground its 15. Many will argue this was not this serious of an infraction. But what do you see that makes you like it . I like the fact that the nfl has a get tough policy chris. I think that the bottom line is if you are thinking of cheating and youre an nfl player youre going to think again. If anyone else is pulling any fast ones theyre not going to do this again. I think that we really do need to look at the nfl post september 8. And frankly our whole country and culture in terms of Domestic Violence. This is not Domestic Violence but its to the integrity of the game. I think the nfl is very serious about this. And it is a workplace issue. Thats another important point. If you or i were in a situation where we were cheating or caught cheating in our workplace, we better cooperate. And so yeah its an unusual workplace because its a football field, its a practice field, its a game. But it is the workplace and the nfl has to look at that and be very serious about that moving forward. And i think thats what were seeing. I think its unequivocal and no one can have questions Going Forward about what the National Football league is going to do. The old addagedage its not the crime, its the coverup seeping into football and coming to bite tom brady in the footballs. Coy wire let me ask you this, what happens with the next infraction . Say somebody gets caught using p. E. D. S in the preseason or somebody punches somebody in the face during practice. Dont you have a precedent . If you have four games for the balls, if you grab me and toss me a beating in practice now what . Theyve set a bar, havent they . Its a great question. I think with the p. E. D. S, youre talking drug policy when youre talking playing rules and penalties, thats different than what this was. This was a hit against the nfls policy on integrity of the game and enforcement of competitive rule. So youre saying dont get distracted by the balls, this is about how they handled the situation thats being punished. Thats exactly right. And they were clear that although they cant determine how much this would effect the outcome of a game it is a rule for a specific reason that it provides a competitive advantage. And i know that it says 25,000 is the fine for deflated footballs, but thats the minimum. It says at least a minimum of 25,000. So we havent had this situation. This was very unique. I think when you add up all the components that this was a second offense, its the same organization and that tom brady was unwilling to cooperate as players and even goodell himself had been willing in other cases, rich incognito cell phones were turned over that i think played a huge factor into this severity of the punishments that were dealt out. Coy wire Christine Brennan, you beat me on the facts, you beat me on the lawyers, you beat me on the policy. And hopefully the league and all the fans accept this as a step in the right direction. Certainly up in new england its going to be met with some frosty feelings but thats only to be expected. Thanks to both of you. Well see what happens next. Thank you. Mik. All right, the Obama Administration is firing back at veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh denying his claims that the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden was staged. A white house official calling the article baseless insisting there are too many inaccuracies to factcheck them all. Michelle kosniski has the latest. Quite a development overnight and quite a conversation im sure theyre having right now. Reporter youre right. Saying the notion that the operation to kill Osama Bin Laden was anything but a unilateral u. S. Mission is patently false. Heres the press secretary. The Obama White House is not the only one to observe that the story is riddled with inaccuracies and outright falsehoods. The former Deputy Director of the cia, mike morell has said that every sentence was wrong. Reporter what in there could be true . What about this possibility that somebody within pakistani intelligence knew that Osama Bin Laden was at least in pakistan . Well even the former cia director and secretary of state have long said that yeah that could be true. What about this assertion as hersh says somebody within pakistani intelligence walked into the u. S. Embassy and said i know where he is. Cnn sources arent ruling out that at some point somebody walked in and did give some kind of information that may have been helpful. But they insist it was not one person or one piece of evidence that cracked open this case. Alisyn. Okay michelle thanks so much for that. Well talk about it much more in the program. Meanwhile, a stern warning from the director of the nsa, isis is increasing its already successful efforts to spread its message on social media and its apparently resonating with more americans. Cnns Senior Correspondent Nick Paton Walsh has more for us. Nick. Reporter well this morning morning after texas shootings were claimed by isis but beforehand shooters pledged alee yans allegiance. This concern about individuals within the United States increasingly resonated, if you will with the ideology of isil and the idea of just acting violently indiscriminately is clearly of great concern. Its a trend that things would suggest is increasing not decreasing. Reporter theres one key issue about isis that necessarily you dont have to have these attackers speaking to isis leadership. They can simply be inspired and act independently, the lone wolf if you like. I should point out that mike rongers is talking in a climate in which the nsa will be looking to renew its broad surveillance powers simply in the weeks ahead. That may be feeding into some of the sense of urgency in his comments and also too he spoke on a day in which we often see another video emerged online in which isis supporters claim they have plenty of hacking attacks ready to jeopardize the u. S. A climate of concern building here. Well certainly, nick the surprise of social media effectiveness and spreading their message is certainly catching people off guard. The question is what to do with it. Thank you for the reporting this morning. Another big headline this morning, the u. S. And russia facetoface today. Secretary of state john kerry and russian president Vladimir Putin will meet to try and find a political solution to the conflict in syria. Now, right now kerrys meeting with his russian counterpart, that would be foreign minister sergei lavrov. They just laid a wreath at the world war ii memorial in sochi. The meetings between putin and kerry are also expected to tackle the crises in ukraine and yemen as well as the iran nuclear talks. A lot on the plate there. Kerrys trip is the first cabinet level visit to russia since start of the ukraine crisis which is still dividing that country right now. The family of Tony Robinson will find out this afternoon whether the Police Officer who shot and killed their unarmed son will be charged. This case sparked emotional protests in madison, wisconsin. Now the d. A. Is set to announce a decision after an independent twomonth investigation. Cnn National Reporter ryan young is live from madison this morning on what we can expect. Hey, ryan. Reporter good morning, michaela. Of course Tony Robinson was killed back in march. And a lot of people had questions since then. The porch where the officer and initial encounter with Tony Robinson happened. The officer says he arrived here to the scene after reports that someone was hitting people randomly in the street and operating trying to run between cars. All of a sudden there was a pushing match, a fight, the officer said he was hit in the head pulled his gun and fired shots. Now this investigation should move forward and tell us today whether or not those charges will come forward. Let me tell you, we were here for the passionate response when people hit the streets they were protesting. We watched that as it happened. People in this Community Want to know what will happen next. And they want to know whether or not charges will be filed against that officer. Now, the family told us months ago that they believe in the process. Alisyn. Okay ryan thanks so much for that. Well 911 calls expected to be released today following the latest shooting incident involving George Zimmerman. The 31yearold suffered minor injuries after being shot at by a man in florida on monday in whats being called a case of road rage. Zimmerman and suspect apparently involved in an ongoing dispute. Zimmerman youll remember was acquitted in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in february of 2012. So. Trouble seems to find him. Well is that it . Or does he find the trouble . Thats the question. I just asked it. What do you think . He and trouble seem to dance a lot. Yeah. I think that its more than a coincidence at this point. Obviously we interviewed him about his feelings about why this happens. He feels persecuted. He feels highly victimized by what happened with Trayvon Martin. He feels people are still after him, he cant work he cant take care of his family. To be fair this incident is related to a road rage incident last fall. Its the same person. Well hes had an ongoing feud supposedly. Does he always escalate . Does he have anger Management Issues . Thats one question. Or does trouble just follow him . I think that the chance he has no responsibility for these is very small. Let us know what you think about all that. All right. Another story this morning, crews desperately trying to find survivors after more than 70 tornadoes ripped through the heart land. We do know at least five people have lost their lives including this arkansas couple. Their bodies were found next to their baby daughter miraculously she survived along with three others originally presumed dead. Lets get right to meteorologist chad myers. Its all about advance warning and people being able to simply get lucky in some of these situations. What do we see now, chad . You bet. Today is a good day. It is a decent day in the plains. Theyll be a couple showers and storms around south texas and even the east coast, but it gets bad again tomorrow. And saturday and sunday look just like big tornadoes through the plains. Again, were back in this pattern. Even tomorrow afternoon look at this. This is wednesday afternoon. Showers, storms in texas. And then big weather all the way through texas, oklahoma into kansas. Thats wednesday. It takes a break on thursday. Takes a break on friday. Now, its still going to rain a lot. Were still going to see six to ten inches of rainfall where they kind of need rain. But the setup for the weekend is really getting extreme. Grand island wichita, Oklahoma City down into dallas and all the way down to del rio, texas, thats the bogey, the bullseye for Severe Weather this weekend. Waking up in the east 89 degrees today in new york city. 67 tomorrow and 73 very plez ant r sant for your end of the week and into the weekend. 89 degrees . I know. Thats hot. Wow. All right, chad thanks so much for all of that. Well it was considered president obamas finest hour in office the killing of Osama Bin Laden. 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Aside from those that hit bin laden, no other shots were fired. Who are we to believe, phil . I got to stop laughing for a moment. I support this article by the way. Im going to shock you because as a National Security guy we get no humor in my life. This is the funniest thing ive seen in maybe five years. I wake up yesterday morning and see this thing and i cant figure out theres nothing here thats even close to true. I mean if tom clancy wrote this hed be laughed off the street. This suggests that the white house, navy s. E. A. L. S. The pentagon the cia, saudi princes and pakistani generals somehow got together in a room and decided that they could come up with the best conspiracy man has ever known. I wouldnt paper a bird cage with this stuff. This is just fiction. I dont know where this comes from. David, do you see it as implausibly as phil does . Absolutely. Although i do think you could paper a bird cage with fiction. Wow. Okay. Hold on a second. So you both dismiss the idea there was no fire fight. Theres more. This comes into play whether or not pakistan knew all along where bin laden was. Some people say that thats not so much of a stretch. Heres what Seymour Hersh reports on that bin laden had been a prisoner of isi, at the abbottabad compound since 2006 that two senior Pakistani Military leaders knew of the raid in advance and had made sure that the two helicopters delivering the s. E. A. L. S. To abbottabad could cross Pakistani Air space without triggering any alarms. Phil. Well lets be clear here. To be serious for just one second. The assertion is not that somebody down the chain in the Pakistani Military or Security Services might have known something. The assertion is that senior pakistani generals including the head of the Security Service knew for years. So while that Security Service was losing officers in the fight against al qaeda, they are also at the same time secretly sheltering the head of al qaeda. Let me break some news for you this morning. Aliens abducted president obama 15 minutes ago and darth vaders in the Oval Office Making decisions for the United States. I have a secret source who told me that. Why dont we publish . This is nonsense. This is just ridiculous. Daveed is it nonsense . Because people always questioned how bin laden could have been so close to a Pakistan Military base without anybody ever detecting him. Of course people question that. Including thendirector of cia le on panetta. Questioning the idea that there wasnt pakistani knowledge that may have went higher up the chain isnt exactly revolutionary given cabinet members were questioning it. Let me get to what the problem is with this story. There might be individual pieces that are true. And nbc news for example published kind of a rushed story which suggested that there may have actually been a source other than the u. S. Just tracing down this courier. Hold on. Thats what Seymour Hersh says is theres this pakistani source a former military person who walked into the embassy and gave up bin ladens whereabouts. Correct. Nbc has a somewhat similar story although it seems like they rush to put it out in light of the Seymour Hersh story. The overall problem with the hersh story is that none of the components are true. There may be some true in different ways and phil and i may disagree on what ones are more plausible, but its a comprehensive alternative history based on sources that are anonymous. Its clear they didnt actually have direct knowledge of the events. For example, one source describes a senior official who had information about the intelligence leading up to the raid not about the raid itself. And then theres two consultants to soak on. And those consultants wouldnt have the kind of information to provide the kind of omniscience. If cnn were considering a story like this it would not pass factchecking muster with cnn. The overall blow is fiction, there may be facts embedded within it, but hes presenting alternative definitive history and its impossible to take that serious sgli seriously. Phil i want to talk to you about a story out of the nsa, believes that the isis ideology is resonating more and more with americans. Can you help us understand what part of that ideology is appealing or why he would say that . Sure. I think the real compelling part of the isis ideology is its simplicity. You can summarize this in about 15 seconds. If youre an impressionable 15 or 17yearold theres a place you can practice with some sense of purity in other words you can get to the real religion and the story is coming from native English Speakers in syria who are able to speak to a 15 or 17 or 19yearold in their own language in their own idiom. Let me put two stories together here quickly. This is why secretary of state kerrys conversation with the russian ss so important today. This ideology is becoming so pervasive on the internet that people like me would say eventually youve got to get to the heart of this. You cant stop it in the United States the uk. Youve got to root out the evil in syria and iraq. And conversations with the russians about the end game for president assad so we can really go after isis in syria really important. All right. Phillip mudd daveed glad we could provide you some humor this morning. Lets get to michaela. The u. S. And russia talking facetoface. Secretary of state kerry meeting this morning with Vladimir Putin. Can the two sides see eyetoeye on ukraine . Well bring the latest live from moscow ahead. Scott were concerned. You just fed your lawn earlier this spring and now youre at it again. Scott chuckles indeed, a crucial late spring feeding helps defend the grass against the summer heat to come. Nbr we knew that right guys . Oh yeah scott feed your lawn. 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This is an important meeting to try and get that relationship a crucial relationship back on some kind of normal footing. There are whole areas where they have to try and cooperate over. Theyve cooperated recently over iran bringing iran to the negotiating table to forge an agreement over its controversial nuclear program. They need to talk about syria and what can be done there between russia and the United States to get a resolution at the u. N. Security council. Other issues like yemen as well. There are a whole range of interNational Security issues that are very dependent on this relationship between russia and the United States. Its at such a bad place at the moment this is being seen as a first step, a u. S. Initiative according to russians as well to try and bring that relationship back into some kind of normal framework. Okay matthew, thanks so much for that. We have some breaking news for you this morning. 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Such a shame its labeled a getaway. Life should always feel like this. Hampton. We go together. Always get the lowest price, only when you book direct at hampton. Com an update to a story weve been following here at cnn the family of Tony Robinson is going to find out whether the madison, wisconsin Police Officer who shot their son is going to face criminal charges. The d. A. Is set to announce a decision following an independent twomonth investigation. We want to bring in retired Nypd Harry Houck and cnn political commentator of cnn post live marc lamont hill. We havent been watching the story, but this is after the twomonth independent investigation. Do you believe that officer kennys going to face charges . I dont think so. The officer responded by himself to an incident. No partner. No backup. Exactly. No backup. Responded by himself, all right, to a man who was assaulting people and jumping on cars. The first thing you think is you know im facing a lunatic here. So when he responded and he confronted this guy, apparently he came towards the officer. I think the officer fired three shots. One apparently killed him. Which indicates to me this isnt some kind of assassination type thing, okay. The forensics that the police look at as a result of what the Police Officers comments were and what happened theyre going to probably match based on that. If theyre matched based on that the officer had a concussion actually also i think is going to be exonerated. Marc what do you think about this . Do you agree with harry . We do know that he was said to have been on the family says he was on hallucinogenic mushrooms. We know he was also known to police. What do you think . Do i think hes going to face charges . No. Weve seen cases where the evidence was far more compelling do you think he should have . I dont know enough. Hes been very mum. What i try not to do is have a sort of reactionary position and say there should be or shouldnt be charges. In baltimore i knew enough to say, look some charges should be brought. Ferguson had a strong opinion on. Does that make you feel in the dark or does it make you feel this is the process being handled the way it should be handled. Im okay with a thorough and transparent process and a long process, which is what were seeing here. What im not okay with is the public not getting enough information. Id like to see more information brought to the public. I dont want anybody to go to jail for something they didnt do. Thats my concern. To your point you go to a house where someone is jumping on cars and assaulting people why do you go alone . I agree 100 . Let me tell you what happens is Police Departments figure instead of having two guys in a car they have one in a car and have two guys in the road. There arent that many assaults going on in madison. Maybe you could send two cars. If somebodys jumping on cars and assaulting people. Im for that 100 . The fact this officer had to face this person alone because he thought somebodys life was in danger all right . He couldnt wait for backup. Right. He did call for backup correct . Yes. Backup eventually did arrive but it was too late. Thats why we need more money for law enforcement. This guy might be alive if there were two officers do you think thats the case . Thats a possibility. I dont think its 100 . But theres a possibility. But thats part of the problem too. Sometimes when people are frustrated and im one of those people with the death of people on black people in particular its not just because i think the Police Officer goes into a situation saying im going to kill a black person. Its because theres a set of circumstances that could be avoided that oftentimes dont get avoided under certain circumstances. Two Police Officers might have changed this whole thing, but well never know. Were just assuming thats what might have happened. A Police Officer also youre like you got to give this cop a pat on the back. Listen hes running in there he went towards trouble. He dont know what hes going to find. All right. Thinking somebodys in danger. Ive done that plenty of times myself. That happens. The other piece is the family is saying yeah we understand he was out of control. But he wasnt a threat to the officer at the time of the shooting. All families say that. I get that. Let me finish my point. So i get that. Thats absolutely true. But this is part of the pattern other people are wondering about as well are Police Officers more likely to pull a trigger when theres a young black man . Because of everything happening around the country that does bring that question. But we dont know that. On average this is an fbi statistic i pulled out yesterday, on average 400 Police Officers shoot 400 people, all right. Only 25 of them are black. Yeah the problem is we only make up 13 of the population. Im saying its 25 . That means were overrepresented. Also because they commit the most crimes. Well that doesnt mean you should be shot. Nobodys saying that. The Police Confront more people let me ask one question today in madison we know theres a press conference at 2 30 i dont want allow it to be said on national tv. Thats not true. Fair enough. In new york city. But nationwide i almost dont want to jump in but i want to know what to expect in madison. We know matdson police have come out with this statement saying there could be civil dissent but theyre prepared to facilitate the move of people and allow them to protest. Ive been to madison and ive talked to people been on the ground ive seen the protests theyve been very peaceful and organized. People arent running around raging. Doesnt mean Nothing Happened bad there, we dont know yet. We dont know. People are tired of people dying. They also want information. You cant assume every time a white Police Officer kills a black man its murder. You know. You cant assume that. What we got to do is we have to listen to the criminal justice system. And when it says something, we have to agree with it. Listen o. J. Killed two people, i know that guy was guilty, everybody does, but wow. I feel like that could launch us into a whole other aaron bird you two had extra wheaties today. Let me say. Passionate arguments we could go on and on but we wont. Chris, over to you. When aaron burr comes up you know youre getting somewhere. Different type of fighting jeb bush versus karl rove. Can only one survive in the race to 2016 . Our Political Panel will discuss the rumor bad blood and what happens next for the man in the gown. Ive smoked a lot and quit a lot but ended up nowhere. Now i use this. The nicoderm cq patch, with unique extended release Technology Helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. I want this time to be my last time. Thats why i choose nicoderm cq. Im brian vickers, nascar® driver. Im kevin nealon comedian. 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People thought he should bring in the big dogs and he didnt it and worked for him. I think this idea where, you should need more or if you dont listen to everything we tell you, we already got there once before were not friends, i think thats just politics. Little bit grows out of the relationship that rove had with the brother and jeb and george and how did he get in the middle. And thats going to be political intrigue. He also has the record. So now jeb bush comes out and says i see where my brother was on the iraq war. I support it. What does that mean to your side of the fence . Well i think its remarkable that jeb bush today knowing everything we know about the false intelligence we had and that the false premise that that whole war was based on would come out today and say if he had it to do all over again even today, even knowing what we know today, that he would make the same decision. I mean like nobody thinks that. So this is another big problem for jeb bush. I mean hes off to a very rocky start. You know in the first place hes running as a moderate in an increasingly conservative party. A factionalized increasing conservative party. And now hes making these missteps i did not take what he said that way at all. If you were president at the time. A lot of people thought, look, i would have done the exact same thing. But knowing what he would do today he would do the same thing. I think youll see a clarification from him probably. You do . His point was if im there at the time and saw when he said Hillary Clinton would vote for it in the moment when they had what they had, i think a lot of people are making it a bigger deal than it really is. He said if you think im going to run away from my brother on this one, its not going to be on that issue at that time not only is he not running away i mean thats exactly the point. Ben is making the point. Whats he supposed to say . But the point is is that heres a guy whos running for president. His whole reason for being electable, right, is that hes experienced, hes steady hes supposed to be the mature you know smart guy in the field. But hes making all these missteps. How is that a misstep . It was a misstep because if you believe what ben says he got asked a very clear question by megyn kelly and now a very clear answer hes having to clarify. There are all kinds of things. That speech he gave at liberty last weekend he looked very tentative. I mean he just does not look like someone whos obviously hes not going for you as a voter. I didnt think he looked tentative at all. And i think what he was talking about when he was talking about Foreign Policy his brother the more weve seen of isis and islamic extremism and fall of iraq and many important areas, george bushs Foreign Policy to many conservatives is starting to look like he knew a lot more than what people gave him credit for, if you pull out quickly, if we just try to end these wars then all of a sudden its going to be over. I think now by him saying i would listen to my brother and talk to him, he knew a lot. And honestly the longer it gets away from him leaving office the more it looks like he knew what he was talking about in Foreign Policy in the middle east with the rise of isis. Many believe hes the one that upset the apple cart. Thats going to be a huge debate in the general. Lets talk about a group he is going for and that is hispanics. He also tried to clarify his policy on immigration and said he would overturn president obamas executive order on immigration meaning i think send the dreamers back send them home. I think hes saying he wants Immigration Reform as a whole but he hasnt spelled that out. I think hes trying to have it both ways on immigration. Hes trying to suggest that he would institute some very modest Immigration Reforms, but he is not for a pathway to citizenship. He made that clear last night. If you watch the whole interview. I think this is going to be a big issue. The democrats and Hillary Clinton are the only Hillary Clinton is the only viable candidate now running who supports a pathway to citizenship. Thats going to be a big issue. You cant win without the latino vote. You dont do it through executive action. I think that was part of what he was saying. Is if im president of america and you have to reform the immigration system you dont dallasft. Worth because you dont get your way through executive action at the white house. I would do it differently and consult with congress. I think thats a very big point with conservatives. Do you think he has a word choice issue . Do you think hes having some struggles delineating his positions with the questions hes been asked . He seems to be falling in holes which youre able to explain pretty well i think, but he shouldnt need that at this level of the game should he . Part of it is when youre running for office and youre in these situations people are going to try to get things that make you look like youre somehow different or unique or not on point. When i listen to him and i think wasnt a sneaky question and it was coming from a safe harbor. If you look at conservatives, no one was shocked by that. When i look at the people hes actually going to have to get to vote for him in the primary, these were not big issues. They were big issues i think of people on the left understandably so because they feel like they can score points but from jeb bushs perspective i dont think he lost anybody over the last two or three days or these interviews. Ben, richard, great to have you debating here on new day. Big news in politics this morning but there are a lot of headlines. Lets get right to it. I was walking down the street when this earthquake struck. Another major earthquake hitting nepal near mt. Everest. People are in shock. 1 million fine. This is the greatest and largest fine in the history of the nfl. Its about the integrity of the league. Accusations of a coverup. Theres no question this was an assassination from the getgo despite what the white house says. In the end this was a u. S. Operation and we sought Osama Bin Laden and we brought him to justice. George zimmerman back in the headlines. He said i do not have a phone, i have a gun, i shot George Zimmerman. Could have killed him easily. This is new day with chris cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and michaela pereira. Guilty or not guilty everyone. Welcome back to your new day. We do have some breaking news to report to you out of nepal. At least 29 people dead after a 7. 3 magnitude earthquake rocks the region. This happened near mt. Everest. Watch the intense shaking as the quake rattles nepal sending people running for their lives. The region already in ruins and obviously structures are vulnerable. More than 8,000 lives have been lost. And now this. Lets get right to cnn Senior International correspondent ivan watson live in hong kong with more. Ivan whats the latest . Reporter good morning, chris. This is grim news. Its only been about four hours since the 7. 3 magnitude earthquake hit nepal and already the nepalese government saying the death toll has grown to 29 dead and more than 1,000 people wounded. Thats in just four hours. Its a bad sign for what potentially is to come. Weve spoken to people on the ground. They said that the earth began shaking in the early afternoon. Everybody running out into the streets. Thats the advise that the nepalese government that geologists are giving stay in open spaces away from overhanging structures. Eyewitnesses on the ground describing to us how already rescue crews are at work going through the rubble of a fivestory building in katmandu for example, that was just brought down less than three weeks after that devastating earthquake killed more than 8,000 people in katmandu. Some help is already on the way. The Indian Air Force says it has sent a helicopter to the eastern town of nemche that is described as the homeland for the sherpas who climb mt. Everest because thats being the area as being described as the epicenter. I think a lot of people will be sleeping out in the open tonight. And sadly this is coming as monsoon season rapidly approaches this devastated impoverished country. Back to you guys. Ivan the news is just terrible out of there. Thank you for updating us. Well check back. Back here at home the nfl hammering Quarterback Tom Brady and the nengds patriots over deflategate. Tom bradys agent expressing his outrage over the punishment calling it ridiculous. Cnns john berman has more for us. Is it ridiculous . Well brady and his agent not used to losing. Lets lay that out there. They lost big, i think. Look the guidelines for this type of infraction, altering a football say 25,000 fine thats the minimum. Of course thats what weve seen in the past. The nfl going way, way beyond that. They say what tom brady did having his general awareness of this likely deflating of the footballs it threatens the integrity of the game. The unprecedented penalties including a fourgame suspension for tom brady, came less than a week after the bombshell 243page report on deflategate. I dont have really any reaction. I havent had much time to digest it fully. Reporter players throughout the league are reacting to the punishment. We have full faith and belief in our quarterback, tom. Its been like that for me for six years, thats not going to change now. Someones breaking rules, i understand youre going to get punished for it. Reporter the report not only benched the star quarterback but also slapped the patriots with a 1 million fine the highest ever. And in another staggering blow the team has to give up its 2016 firstround draft pick and fourth round pick in 2017. The nfl is on a mission right now to repair some of the mistakes that theyve made in the past. The Nfl League Office on this one out of control. Reporter bradys agent is blasting the decision saying in a statement, we will appeal. And that the discipline is ridiculous and has no legitimate basis. New england fans are showing their support online and beyond. Theres a nobradynobanner pressing the nfl to wait to raise the championship banner until brady is back on the field. I dont want to see a banner without brady. Hes been the franchise. Reporter the patriots owner is also sticking by his player stating, tom brady has our unconditional support. Our belief in him has not wavered. Now, there will be appeals, thats for sure. Also the league made clear here that the history matters, the patriots of course have a history of bending or breaking the rules in 2007 with spygate. And the league made clear the severity of the punishments this time around have a lot to do with the past. Chris. Theres a lot of it matters here. Youve got the rules, only supposed to be 25,000, but thats just the minimum but then they go from that to the biggest fine ever. Its a lot of what really matters here that has to be sorted out. Lets do some of that. John, thank you very much. Lets bring in dante stallworth. And also a rules analyst for espn. Okay. So lets start with you, jim, on the integrity side. We keep hearing dont get caught up in the footballs. This isnt about the footballs. Its about how the situation was handled. So from an integrity standpoint because that word keeps getting used, how does this lay out as a punishment for you . Well chris, i believe the punishment is a little bit excessive for what actually happened. I think thats again, the inflation or the deflation of the footballs really had no effect on the outcome of the game. But it was the integrity of the game that concerned the nfl offices up in new york. And thats why the penalty has been so severe. Not the crime, its the coverup dante, thats basically what theyre saying here. You point to the fact that the standard of proof that theyve brought to bear here gives you some concern. The weird language in the report about how it seemed more likely than not that he was generally aware of what was done as describing bradys culpability. You say you dont like it. No i dont. I think if youre going to suspend someone for a quarter of the season which is four games in the nfl, if youre going to suspend someone for that long and youre going to dock the patriots 1 million and take away a first round draft pick and another fourth round draft pick the following season i think you should have a little more evidence than more probable than not and generally aware. That becomes an issue for me. I think the Biggest Issue for the nfl anyway is they felt as if tom brady wasnt being extremely cooperative. And i think thats probably more so of what got him suspended more than the actual act. Now, you were on the team the last time they got in the stink like this with spygate there when they were filming. And the team wound up going 160. John berman was just reminding me because everybody was so riled up. Do you think this will have the same impact on the team this year in terms of unity . Yeah i think so. I think any time theres an issue in new england regardless of what it is if its something against the patriots they are always going to rally amongst each other. People always feel like or people within the organization in new england always feel like theyre against the rest of the world. Theyre a part of what i like to call the axis of evil the evil empire the yankees, cowboys, lakers and patriots. Of course Bill Belichick is going to use this as an additional ammunition for them to really come together. If tom brady does appeal i think that the patriots are probably looking to reduce that suspension. But if not, you know, four games is a lot of games in the nfl. Understood. Understood. Let me ask you something about selective enforcement, jim. Obviously the league is trying to make a stand in saying were all about the integrity game Going Forward. Youve got this report being ignored in a lot of media about teams, including the jets im a fan of the jets but a lot of teams in the league taking money from the military in exchange for honoring veterans during the game. Those ceremonies we all watch very often its the best part of the game. The league is letting these teams take money from the military getting paid to honor veterans. Wheres the league on that issue . Doesnt that go to the integrity of the game . Thats a tough question for me to answer not having been involved im not blaming you, jim. Im talking about integrity of the game. Doesnt that matter too . Theres so many issues that go on here. I guess, chris, one of the things that concerns me reading through the wells report is that the National Football league was aware of a problem with the footballs. They informed the officials before the game that there was an issue with the footballs. So they knew something was going on. My question is what happened to those footballs . How did they lose sight of where those footballs were . What happened with the officials . What happened with the nfl security . What happened with the patriots security . Theres some questions right there that im looking for an answer. Why did those footballs lose their security or why did the people that were responsible for keeping track of those footballs, why did they let them out of their sight to have this problem thats caused some integrity issues with the National Football league . As you know a lot of the an ek doal evidence suggests its because it wasnt a big deal its known and certain things are stretched in the game. Thats nothing new there. Donte donte, jim doesnt want me to put him on the spot but now im coming to you. If you want to talk about the integrity of the league and turn a new page how can you have the same day youre smacking brady and patriots around for deflated footballs and how they deal with it you have all these teams getting paid millions of dollars to honor vets on a game thats supposed to be about integrity. What says integrity more than how we treat veterans . Wheres the league on that . Yeah that was something i had no idea about. And i can almost guarantee you that a lot of nfl players we most of us i would say all of us have nothing but utmost respect for the ultimate sacrifice that our servicemen and women give to this country. And to see that nfl teams have been accepting money on behalf of the d. O. D. To show an expression of gratitude towards our servicemen and women, that was a little disappointing. But when i look at it i dont know if its you know i dont know who you blame . Do you blame the d. O. D. For paying or the nfl for accepting payment or blame both . Blame is always easy to throw around. Thats for sure. Donte, jim, good to have your perspective on the show. Thats the problem with the standard mik. If youre going to set one, you have to hold to it all the way through the line. Otherwise that standard starts to slip around. Thats not good. Chris, thank you. The Obama Administration dismissing claims by journalist Seymour Hersh that the raid on Osama Bin Ladens compound was staged. A white house official insisting there are just too many accuracies to factcheck in the Pulitzer Prize winning blockbuster report. Lets bring in Michelle Kosinski for the latest. Reporter when the white house responded to this they came out swinging first putting out this statement that said any notion that this operation to kill Osama Bin Laden was anything but a unilateral u. S. Mission is patently false. And the press secretary said this. I can tell you that the Obama White House is not the only one to observe that the story is riddled with inaccuracies and outright falsehoods. The former Deputy Director of the cia mike morell has said that every sentence was wrong. Reporter are there elements of this story that could be true . Sure in a broader sense. The idea that maybe somebody within pakistani intelligence could have known where Osama Bin Laden was, the former cia director and secretary of state have long said that that could be true. But cnn sources are disputing that it was one day, one person who walked into the u. S. Embassy and tipped everyone off. Alisyn. All right, michelle were going to talk about this with mike rogers who was on the Intelligence Committee during the raid coming up. Meanwhile, a possible big hit against isis. Several reports suggest the groups leader Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi is injured. Cnn correspondent Barbara Starr has the latest. Good morning, alisyn. These reports got our attention. Weve seen a number of news reports, weve seen reports on social media. So we started poking around. Now, u. S. Officials are telling me that the latest intelligence shows them that Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi the leader of isis is still very much in charge in charge of daytoday operations running isis issuing orders that he is very much still the commander. The intelligence is showing them that they say they have no intelligence that shows them hes been injured. The allegation injured in an air strike in early march. They are saying they simply have no intelligence showing that he has been injured. But nonetheless theres a lot developing on potential successors if it came to that. There are four pictures i want to show you. These are top isis leaders and commanders. The u. S. Has just put a bounty on their head of millions of dollars in rewards being offered for information leading to the capture of any four of these men. Theres a lot of thinking that this is the new rogues gallery. These are the men that could succeed baghdadi as the leader of isis if it ever came to that. Chris. All right, barbara. We have another layer here in this situation as well. Nsa director sounding the alarm on isis recruiting. Admiral mike rogers says the terror groups online efforts are increasing and that more americans are getting onboard. Cnn Senior International correspondent Nick Paton Walsh has this part of the story. This is becoming the biggest weapon for this brand of isis is just telling people do whatever you want just do it in our name. Reporter very specifically put out by the spokesperson saying you know you dont have to seek our advice. The idea in this ideology can spread in social media, you can talk to people who youve never met, never spoken to isis leadership and then commit an act, an atrocity as a lone wolf inspired or trained by manuals online. Heres what admiral rogers had to say about that specific threat to the u. S. This concern about individuals within the United States increasingly resonated, if you will with the ideology of isil and the idea of just acting violently indiscriminately is clearly of grave concern. Its a trend that things would suggest is increasing not decreasing. Reporter now, hes speaking in two climates after the garland, texas attack saying it was clear there was pledge to allegiance to isis and then afterwards isis respectively said theyre working on their behalf. Still unclear and two at the same time admiral rogers engaged capabilities nsa had that Edward Snowden exposed or possibly exposed. A case they want to make to try to get their side of the balance between privacy and surveillance taken up by congress. A key time for them but also just yesterday, chris, we saw isis affiliated hackers putting out a message on the internet saying they would be targeting the u. S. At some point down the line. Unclear how capable they are but now threat online so pervasive. Back to you. Thank you, nick. U. S. And Saudi Arabian officials are trying to tamp down suggestions of king salman speaking on the phone monday. Questions swirled after the king backed out of a summit at camp david perceived as a snub over the president s overtures to iran. But a top saudi official tells cnn that circumstances changed in the saudis ongoing conflict with yemen forcing that lastminute cancellation. Crews working furiously to find victims after more than 70 tornadoes tore through the nations midsection. At least five People Killed in hard hit texas and arkansas including this couple who died shielding their baby girl in their mobile home. The infant along with three others were miraculously found alive. How about this one . A United Express flight on its way to monterey was forced to make a belly landing at Los Angeles International airport. It happened when the plane experienced mechanical issues in the left mainlanding gear failed. Thats what youre watching a belly landing. Passengers on the plane told to assume the crash position and then they just skidded on home. No one hurt. 43 people on board. I tried to wave alisyn off given her anxietyg sooixiety of flying. Im okay with that sglun really . Im always interested in the ups and downs of camerota world. Im happy plane ks do that. Thats great they can make a belly landing if the gear doesnt come down. I would say that that plane did it that time and i would leave it at that. Shall we carry on . Just when i was feeling tarmac landing also known as a fireball in some cases. Thank you for that chris. Meanwhile, theres a new warning to tell you about about isis and its ability to reach young people in the u. S. Through social media. Who is most vulnerable . Thats next. When broker chris hill stays at laquinta and fires up free wifi, with a network thats now up to 5 times faster than before you know what he can do . Lets see if hes ready. He can swim with the sharks book your next stay at lq. 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They did kill bin laden. They got in and out successfully and the rest is sort of hogwash. That was Award Winning journalist Seymour Hersh claiming the Obama Administrations account of the bin laden raid was a lie. Lets bring in former chair of the house Intelligence Committee during the bin laden raid. Mike great to see you. Great to see you, alisyn. Good morning. If anyone knows if this was hogwash, the administrations story, it would be you. You were on the house Intelligence Committee. Is it hogwash or even parts of it . The only hogwash i think is the story. I was brought in in january when i became chairman of the house Intelligence Committee and had full visibility of all the intelligence all the operational decisions that needed to be made as far as what their options were. And they werent really good ones. And i just dont find any credibility in hershs article. Is it a stretch . Lets break it down some of the details of his article. Is it a stretch to think that pakistan knew where bin laden was before the raid . Well i mean that is probably the Million Dollar question. In everything we saw you could never clearly say that they knew about it. I will tell you i met with the isi, the intelligence director immediately thereafter. I met with him prior to that in my role as chairman. There was never any indication that they knew about it. The speculation at the time was could lower level intelligence officials loyal to the taliban loyal to the ideas of al qaeda have protected bin laden in that particular facility. Thats never been ruled out. Huh. But theres no clear evidence that they knew that he was there, at least that i saw during my time as chairman. Its interesting you say you met with posha, because thats one of the top level military officials that Seymour Hersh cites as having known about the raid and green lighting it. I have to tell you my counterpart, the Ranking Member at the time and i went to see posha right after the raid because we had some issues to work through on intelligence cooperation. And i can tell you he did not know about the raid. And he was not all that amused by the raid. And it caused us real and significant problems in our intelligence operations for months after that raid because he was not made aware of it and believed that was a slight to their national pride. So i dont know where he gets that story. I found no credibility in it. And theres just no substantive facts that support his story. Are you suggesting there was a fire fight at the raid . Absolutely. We lost a helicopter there. Really very quick actions on behalf of the s. E. A. L. S. We know that there was a fire fight before the three s. E. A. L. S. Got to the building that housed bin laden. There was another small compound away from that where they think it was a Security Team that had to be that engaged in a fire fight. There was a fire fight at the building that housed bin laden. So i mean that clearly happened. There was no nobody walked into that facility. I can tell you that. And by the way, the part he doesnt talk about is afterward the flood of people who rush to the scene and mainly not in a great way certainly would have caused us lots of concern. So this notion that there was this was all preplanned and they walked in just doesnt hold water to the facts that i saw and dealt with as chairman. Okay mike. Lets talk about a developing story here at home. This weekend military bases across the country increased their threat level to bravo, meaning they believe there was an increased threat of terrorism. Whats going on on military bases . What do they know . Well you have to think about what isis is trying to accomplish. So theyre using social media in a way weve never seen before. And unfortunately theyre very good at it. And they are marketing this notion. They have kind of turned a page saying we dont have to actually talk with you, we dont have to work with you, we dont have to tell you what to do we dont have to pick your targets. What we want you to do is were going to inspire you to do an act of violence and well take credit for it and you can say we are part of it. Everything is good. Thats a twist. Its a change. And its dangerous. And so we knew that one of the targets that these folks were interested in and they know this over the 90 some thousand twitter accounts that are related to isis 90,000. Wow. And thousands of americans who are in some way interested and connected to their ideology that military bases, Police Officers other things that i have talked a lot about that in these forums. Are you comfortable that military bases today are secure enough . Listen if they want to cause some harm and kill some people, theyre likely to have some degree of success. You saw it happen in texas. But for some quick action of the local police that was shut down pretty quickly. But had that not happened you can imagine what consequences there would have been. So the hardened part of a military post is they can ramp up that security very very quickly. Lotds of soft targets around a military installation. You have to worry about that and what that means for police and Police Resources and how they do it. Again, the problem with this is that theyre inspiring someone to do it. So there might not be a chain of facts you can follow that says oops thrks guy in this town is starting to get motivated to do this particular act. Very difficult to detect. Thats what i think theyre worried about. Mike rogers we always appreciate getting your expertise on new day. Alisyn does it seem to you wherever George Zimmerman goes trouble seems to follow . 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Investigators trying to determine exactly what led to the Fatal Shooting of two hatties hatties hattiesburg Police Officers. Just one is accused of pulling the trigger. Hes facing two counts of capital murder. We are expecting to learn funeral details today for the two slain officers Benjamin Deen and liquori tate. Michaela pereira says nothing, she loves this. Orangutan at myrtle beach safari in South Carolina has apparently become a surrogate parent to these darling little cubs spotted daily playing with little guys even giving them tons of hugs and somehow resistant to the massive claws they seem to be digging in to her chest plate. So darling. Only a mother can get clubbed by a baby tiger. I think theyre so genius. Your life is complete now. It is. Its complete. All right, guys, lets turn to this now. George zimmerman involved in a violent confrontation in florida once again. This time it was zimmerman who was shot. He was shot by a man he had a runin with last year. This incident just his latest brush with the law since his acquittal in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin. Lets get a look back at his trail of trouble. We the jury find George Zimmerman not guilty. George zimmermans 2013 acquittal in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin hasnt kept the polarizing figure away from the law. In september of that year zimmermans estranged wife called 911 over an alleged altercation. She declined prosecution, no charges were filed. Pointed at me for a second and said do you really want to do this. Then two months later he was arrested on aggravated Assault Charges after his thengirlfriend said zimmerman pointed a gun at her during an argument and smashed her coffee table. Later, prosecutors decided not to pursue the case. A year later florida resident Matthew Apperson said zimmerman threatened to kill him during a road rage incident but never pursued charges. In january 2015 zimmerman was arrested again after an exgirlfriend said he threw a wine bottle at her. She later recanted. No charges were filed. Im like what you shot George Zimmerman . He said yes, sir, i shot George Zimmerman, please call 911. This latest incident a shooting and this time zimmerman was the target. See the gunshot according to zimmermans lawyer the same man from the road rage incident in september 2014 pulled up next to george yelling obscenities at him. When zimmerman raised the window the man shot through the glass almost hitting him in the head. Apperson says zimmerman first waved a gun at him. Something zimmermans attorney outright denies. All right. Here to weighin attorney and radio host mel ivory and hln legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson. Joey were you at all surprised that were here again with George Zimmerman in the news . I was not surprised at all. Certainly hes been in the spotlight. He continues to be in the spotlight. Apparently he likes the spotlight. And as a result was just another day in paradise. But heres the issue. The issue really is not so much hes been embroiled in past instances because every case has to be judged on the merits of that case. Absolutely. So what the attorneys will say in the event he was braugtd forward even though he was the one shot at but in the oechbt he was waving that gun and menacing that other person leading that other person to believe they needed to let off a round before he let off a round on him, these past instances of his misconduct may never see a light of day in the courtroom because of the fact they go to bad character, propensity and bad character and propensity. Mo i want you to listen how zimmermans lawyer described the confrontation. Play the sound and i want your reaction. This fellow was taunting and yelling at him, calling him names. You going to shoot me now kind of thing. I dont know where that came from. But in any event when george recognized him, realized who he was and what he was saying he rolled his window up and decided to get away not to provoke it whatsoever. And the fellow followed him, followed him around the uturn and pulled up next to him and shot at him. Could have easily killed him. The fact is he could have killed him. Thats a very true statement. Mo do you buy this version of the story or do you think trouble keeps finding this guy . I mean enter the violins for George Zimmerman. Oh was previously at the garden helping the children plant vegetables right . Give me a break. This man is a menace to society. And, yes, you do take each case on its own merits. But in the law we also will look at past acts. We will look at when someone comes up for a case if they are a convicted felon from before or if they have things in their past it will come up. George zimmerman has a pattern of violence. He obviously suffers from a power tripping type of mo paranoia almost that he has to constantly be in a position where people are watching him, people know what hes doing. Is there any chance in your mind mo that he could be lets just try and look at it this way. Is there any chance that he could be being intentionally targeted in your mind . No. Not at all . Well i definitely look he got off on a case that was very controversial. And of course there are people on both sides. There are people that think George Zimmerman is a murderer like i do and there are people that believe, you know he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. So sure could he be in the middle of something. But its no accident that he continues to be you know charged with assault, charged with battery, charged with cases that involve being violent. You know his girlfriends, both his wife and his girlfriend, even jurors from the zimmerman trial came out later on and said they were sorry they made the decision they did. Its just not an accident that a lot of people feel this way about George Zimmerman. And i heard people were saying he suffers from ptsd because of you know his life being so under the microscope and him not being able to live a normal life. He has never pursued a normal life. Ever. Lets let joey get in here. Yeah. You talk about this and you look down the list of the aggressive behavior the runins with the law. What would you do if you were his council . Would you advise him . Would you say you and trouble seem to dance together a whole lot. Whether you think that he is courting it or it just seems to find him. Would you tell him to leave the state, leave the country, lie low . We would tell him to relax, get out of the public eye and stop having trouble find you. Its important we attorneys dont like our clients talking. We dont like our clients in the spotlight. We like them to go relax and not be in the thick of it. But hes in the spotlight because trouble keeps finding him. It certainly does. I think in this case of course nobody charged at this point so we dont know. But i think whats going to be very important in this case michaela is if theres any ongoing dispute as between him and the party, mr. Apperson who fired at him. Thats going to be critical. Why . Because it goes to the state of mind of the person who discharged the round. If i have a past history with you, im going to be in a heightened state of alert and i might really feel if youre waving a gun you might use it. So that waving the gun thing, how difficult is that going to be joey for him, the prosecution to confirm . Because it was the two of them. I dont know that there were witnesses to the brandishing of the gun. Aha. So thats important. And then its also going to be relevant as to whether or not a gun was found, right . When he was ultimately gotten under custody and control, was there a gun with him . Not to suggest he couldnt have gotten rid of a gun, but that will go to the credibility of mr. Apperson who said he was waving a gun, if no gun was found would be hard to believe that. Boy, what a mess. Joey jackson, mo i got to tend it there. Mos on fire. Were all on fire today. Its that kind of day. Whats your take at home . Are you on fire as well . Use newdaycnn and also leave comments on our facebook page. Thanks to the both of you. Chris. All right, mick a huge merger in the tech field to tell you about. Whats behind verizons big purchase . And guess what . It could affect you. Well tell you how. Wn earlier this spring and now youre at it again. Scott chuckles indeed, a crucial late spring feeding helps defend the grass against the summer heat to come. Nbr we knew that right guys . Oh yeah scott feed your lawn. 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Well listen its a wonderful story. First of all were ecstatic here in chicago as you can imagine. But what a great story. Barack obama came here about 30 years ago to work for a consortium of churches to try and lift neighborhoods that were down on their luck on the south side of chicago. Michelle obama grew up on the south side of chicago. Her roots are firmly planted there. And now theyre bringing this wonderful asset back to the south side of chicago that will mean not just thousands of jobs and hundreds of millions of dollars of Economic Activity but it will lift the community. And chicago is very very excited today. And lets talk i mean if libraries mean legacy generally and thats sort of what they represent, lets talk about some of that with president obama. Because one of the things people often considered his crowning achievement, and that was the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden, today is called into a little bit of question with Seymour Hershs report. Seymour hersh is an Award Winning investigative journalist and he says the raid did not go down the way the administration has always said it did. Whats your reaction . Multiple sources have debunked i have Great Respect for what he did in the 1960s. I dont in any way dismiss that. But this report by all accounts is just plain wrong. And all i know is what i know which is that i wasnt in the white house at the time of the raid but after the raid i talked to many of the people who were involved in that. And nothing that they told me jibes with what he said. So im very dismissive of that report. But is it possible that pakistan knew where bin laden was for years or months before the raid . It may be possible that they knew where he was. I dont know but that doesnt mean that information was shared. And certainly doesnt mean that america was working with them on this raid. I think there was a great deal of concern if pakistan had been tipped to the raid that bin laden wouldnt be at that location. And theres ample evidence the scrambling of planes by pakistan when they found out about the raid and so on that suggests that they were not part of this. So im deeply deeply skeptical about sy hershs piece. Lets get into your wheelhouse, thats politics and campaign politics. Im interested in your thoughts on Hillary Clintons campaign so far. One of the tweets youve sent out about this learning the lessons of 2008 hrc rollout plans stress humility no clinton inc. The inevitable juggernaut that left voters behind. Thats not exactly the most supportive tweet that weve ever read for hillarys campaign. What do you think . Well i actually meant it to be supportive because i was impressed with the way she rolled out her campaign. I think she recognized you know she was two candidates in 2007 and 2008. The first in 2007 was a candidate who was completely wrapped, cloaked in this cloak offin inevitability. In 2008 after she lost the iowa caucuses, she threw that off and connected with voters in a visceral way. I know because i was on the other side of that fight. It was too late for her in that campaign. I think she needs to be that connecting person that she has to throw caution off, talk to voters directly about their lives, expose her own motivations. And if she does shell do very well in this race. What do you think about all the questions about the fund raising for the Clinton Foundation . Do you think those are a problem for her campaign . Well theyre obviously going to be a somewhat persistent story here. What is missing from all these stories is any connection between her official actions and that fund raising. And thats what makes these stories less than theyve been than some have made of them. Unless there is that connection. I think theyre going to be a nuisance more than a real drag on her candidacy. I think ultimately people are worried about their own families their own futures. And theyre going to respond to a candidate who they think will be an advocate for them particularly in the big economic decisions that lie ahead. So i mean you were the strategist for Barack Obamas wildly successful campaign. So whats your one bit of advice for Hillary Clinton today . I think be authentic. Be a throwaway caution. Be honest about what motivates you and be very attune to whats going on in the country. Forget about the ecochamber in washington, go out there and listen to whats going on in peoples lives and tell them what your ideas are to make this economy work better for people who live from paychecktopaycheck. Lets talk about the gop field. Who do you think stands the best chance of being the nominee . You know im not a republican. And all the smart republicans i talk to are unwilling to make a guess on this. But i will say the history of the Republican Party is that the candidate favored by the sort of centerright republican establishment tends to win the nomination. And that candidate would be jeb bush in this case. And, you know there are reasons to believe he would be a formidable nominee for them not the least of which is his kinship with the hispanic community. You know in 2004 when the republicans last won, george w. Bush got 44 of the hispanic vote. In 2012 mitt romney got 27 . And thats a big, big factor in a country thats becoming more diverse every election. All right. David axelrod, thanks so much for your insights. Great to see you on new day. Congratulations to chicago. Thank you. Lets get to chris. Did you hear about the big punishment that tom brady and the patriots got over deflategate . The stuff of records. Hes out for the start of the season. How long and is the league being consistent . Theres another story that maybe theyre ignoring. 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This is what the people in that region did not need. Reporter a little more than two weeks after the deadliest earthquake hit this area in generations, another 7. 3 magnitude hits these people already traumatized and struggling to overcome the damage from the initial earthquake so the government is already saying just five hours since the earthquake that the death toll has risen to 29 dead and more than 1,000 injured. Next door in india, india says at least three people have been killed by a falling wall and the earthquake went across borders to india and china as well. If there is a Silver Lining here its that there was a lot of Emergency Assistance and search and rescue crews and aid workers that flooded into nepal after the april 25th earthquake and they are hard at work trying to rescue people. Indian air force has helicopters in the air rescuing dozens of wounded people and the tphep hraez people already at work rescuing people out in the countryside, and there were buildings damaged 2 1 2 years ago and they were brought down by this latest round of tremors, so theres a positive thing, and thats that there is already help on the ground mobilized to help after this most recent incident. We see all of these people streaming out into the street and you have talked about how people already sleeping in the street because of the earthquakes. Where will they get food and water and be housed . Its the same thing they had two weeks ago, the entire population was sleeping out in whatever makeshift shelter they can do, and a city like katmandu sandwiched in between hills, theres not a lot of space, and any bit of open ground they can find because they dont want to be under any structure that can come tumbling down. My prediction is that most of that population will be out in the open again tonight and this is a population traumatized by the earthquake of 2 1 2 weeks ago, and imagine, alisyn your house, all of a sudden you dont trust it anymore because it could become your coffin and the shaking earth could bring it down on top of you and thats the situation that most of the population that nepal is in right now, and as the rainy season the monsoon season approaches its devastating. Its terrible i haven. Thank you so much for the reporting and explaining what it looks like there. Tom bradys agent says he will appeal the fourgame suspension handed down by the nfl, and the punishment is unprecedented. Yeah for years to come with the loss of draft picks. This goes way beyond the normal guidelines with this type of suspension. The general awareness that the footballs probably aware, so egregious egregious. It came less than a week after the bombshell 243page report on deflate gate. I dont have really any reaction. I have not had much time to digest it fully. Players throughout the league are reacting to the punishment. We have faith in our quarterback, tom, and its been that way for six years and its not going to change now. Somebody is breaking rules and you will get punished for it. The report led the league to bench the quarterback and slap the patriots with a 1 million fine the highest ever. In another staggering blow the team has to give up its 2016 first round draft pick and fourthround pick in 2017. The nfl is on a mission right now to repair some of the mistakes they have made in the past. The Nfl League Office on this one, out of control. Bradys agent is blasting the decision saying in a statement, we will appeal and that the discipline is ridiculous and it has no legitimate basis. There is a hash tag, no brady, no banner and pressing them to wait to raise the banner until brady is back on the field. The patriots owner is sticking by the player saying tom brady has our unconditional support and our faith in him has not wavered. The league made clear that it was such a stiff penalty because of the breaking of the rules in 2007 with the spy gate controversy. Tough day for a boston guy like you, and i want to read back your own words that you wrote in your article, your latest piece says this is bad, folks, your football dynasty is no longer credible and this will stick with the patriots forever. Why do you feel so strongly that way . The patriots have had a lot of success, four super bowl champions and win their decision every year and its a sustained success, a dynasty almost and to have a scandal where the words cheating are involved and these kinds of punitive and sanctions, that does stick as they move forward, and they assembled a lot of enemies, and they have a weapon to use against them. A normal discipline is a 25,000 fine for altering a ball. Do you think anybody inside the patriots locker room or organization anticipated such a stiff penalty and fine . I do not think they anticipated this. Bob kraft last week when the report was released he said the patriots would go along with whatever the league ruled, and his statement yesterday is different, and he said this was way worst than what we thought it was going to be which makes me think they might appeal and it tom brady is appealing and the patriots also must fight this. We do not believe there was any wrong doing or wrong doing by patriots ownership, so why would the nfl come down so harshly . Well it is harsh, and it seems excessive, and to answer your question one, there is a prior, the spy gate in 2007, and that is cited in the report used against them, and the patriots were not compliant, and they would not let them back to some of the guys and tom brady did not supply his defiance yes. The league doesnt like it when you say we are not going to cooperate with you. Those things compiled with the prior, and i think they would have felt better if the patriots said yeah you got us, we wont do that anymore, and the patriots said they will go the other way and accuse and point fingers, and thats not playing well with the league right now. One of the issues that many are wondering is if there is any inconsistency in the nfl, and we look at the trouble they have had at late and the Domestic Violence issues and the Carolina Panthers and vikings, they used sideline heaters to heat up balls which is illegal to do and they were caught and warned. Where is the consistency . Well there is never consistency, and i agree with that and this is where the patriots are so up in arms like this and you have ray rice assaulting his girlfriend and its a twogame suspension and you deflate footballs and its four . The patriots are paying the price for the other mistakes made. You have that. Competitive violations and the commission is strong on this, and it goes to the integrity of the game and they take it very seriously, and the competitive things they take seriously. The teams fessed up and they said yeah you got us and they did that right away. That softens the blow a little bit. And lets talk tom brady, the legacy. This is the saddest part of this for me, and tom brady is a standup guy, and a wonderful story, he can look up to and there is no priors with tom brady, and he has been nothing but the best and his teammates love him, and the whole ball does this change that narrative. Does this make the brady haters to say maybe he was not such a standup guy . Yeah and i am not sure about the attack on this and we have not heard much from tom yet, and if you look at the interviews some of it means as though he is totally clueless about this and the report indicates otherwise, and he has to decide which way he wants to go now. So good to have your voice with us on new day. We will be watching this to be sure. Thank you. The white house insists it does not stage the 2011 raid that killed bin laden. The white house didnt minutes words in blasting this report, calling it patently false that the u. S. Worked with the pakistani government and this assertion on the raid last night, and crafted together this years long rouse. The Obama White House is not the only one to observe that the story is riddled with inaccuracies and out right falsehoods. The deputy has said every sentence was wrong. Might be hard for some analystonly analyst to say there are inconsistencies. And sure its something that has been talked about even by the former cia director and secretary of state, and what about this assuretion it was somebody that walked into the u. S. Embassy and tipped everybody off, and sources are saying at some point somebody may have walked in and gave information, but they are disputing it was one person that really blew the case wide open. Chris . Thank you very much. The head of the nsa says online recruiting may be the most dangerous part of isis. Cnn international correspondent, Nick Payton Walsh has the story on this. We know after the garland, texas attacks, we dont at this stage know there were clear operational links, but admiral rogers saying the ideal of isis is spreading within the u. S. This concern about individuals within the United States increasingly resinated if you will with the ideology of isil is a concern, and its a trend that would suggests things are increasing and not decreasing. The increasely this threat is hard to define and it doesnt have links back to isis leadership, and yesterday a video emerging with isis affiliated computer experts or hackers suggested they had plans to hack the u. S. And a complex and serious, too, is the need for the nsa to respect individual privacy in the america. A fiveday ceasefire set to begin in yemen. Stepped up strikes on hootie rebel targets. Over 1,400 civilians have been killed so far in the conflict. Tension building in madison, wisconsin. The family of robinson will find out if the officer that shot and killed the teenager will be charged. Cnns National Reporter brian young, is live from madison this morning. Tell us the mood there. Reporter well you know people are bracing for this because they want to know what will happen next. Tony robinson was shot just on the outside of the apartment right there. The report was that somebody was running in between cars and assaulting people, and the officer arrived and said he heard a noise, and the reports are he suffered a concussion after the encounter, and he pulled his gun and fired shots, and Tony Robinson was shot and killed here and some are asking why wasnt a taser used . People in the Community Want to know what is going to happen they want to know from the da will charges be filed . Its something we are going to hear later this afternoon. You know that screening equipment that all of us go through the airport, and it turns out a bunch of it doesnt work. The inspector says the tsa is mismanaging the equipment. The traveling public was left vulnerable to terrorists attacks because of it. Technology needs maintenance. It does. It just does. It has to be infuriating to taxpayers. Everybody who waits in the lines, everybody suspects that all the things we were doing, taking off your shoes, you hope its working. You have had that experience i know some of them dont give any tips to terrorists. Please sometimes you go through one of these, and you say, i have this thing in my pocket yeah, a gigantic bottle of cologne that chris carries all the time. Yeah old spice, Everybody Loves it. They have to maintain these things, and why dont you . Money. 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Lets bring in a leading pakistani journalist that published multiple books about extremist in south and central asia. What has been the reaction among your sources and people on the ground where you are in pakistan to this story . Well it has received a lot of publicity, as you can imagine. Theres a lot of division. I think a lot of the right wing which has traditionally been antiamerican, and the Islamic Party and other such groups have taken have adopted the story and said its absolutely true obama was lying about bin laden. They send to forget about the fact that the story also implicates the Pakistani Army as being involved in hiding bin laden, but i think by and large, most of the liberal urban middle class has shrugged this off as one more story. Remember in pakistan we have had no proper inquiry as to what actually happened and whether bin laden was being kept under somebodys orders and all the demands in the newspapers today point for transparency and a proper pakistani investigation. With your experience and your sources within the space of reporting, what pieces of hershs article is true . What seems worth talking about . I am a fan, and the problems with the stories are either you accept the whole story or you reject it. Unfortunately, compared to other journalists, you cant say pieces and say yes. The story doesnt make sense because the central premise is that the Pakistan Army included by handing over bin laden to the americans, and if thats the case why go through the action of the s. E. A. L. S killing bin laden and etc. If there was kau louson and the two sides are in step with each other why wouldnt the pakistanis hand him over . You know their tendencies and sympathies, and there has been given a little support as what is construed in his report as somebody going to the embassy, and nbc says they do believe an independent source did start giving them information that led them to the curer, so hersh could have that part right . By the way, this talk about a walkin into the u. S. Embassy has been around for at least two years. This is not something new. I think a lot of people do believe in him, and of course what the walkin does it contradicts not what has hersh upset so much but it contradicts the american story about the tracking down the kuwaiting brothers looking after bin laden in this house, and tracking them down through all the surveillance and etc. Was not the true story, and the location of the house was given to them by this walkin, and thats quite possible but it doesnt go on to justify the rest of what hersh is talking about, which is the kau louson with the Pakistani Army. Thank you so much. 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The military and the police are out digging through the rubble of buildings that collapsed in the most recent earthquake, and trying to get out in some of the villages and the mountains in the countryside to evacuate more than 1,000 people that the government says have been wounded, and they are getting help from the air force after on the ground there from the april 25th earthquake and the Indian Military say they have evacuated 11 injured people and the earthquake only happened about five or six hours ago, alisyn. The eyewitness accounts of the frightening shaking of the earth shortly before 1 00 p. M. Local time and the capital, the entire population of the capital rushing outdoors and into the streets as the earth was shaking. And they are following the advice and the instructions of the authorities who are saying you have to get out from underneath things that could fall on you and hurt you, and you have to open up the roads at the same time to allow the emergency workers to get where they need to be during the critical hours after this earthquake struck. Alisyn . Last time around you will remember the earthquake there triggered a deadly avalanche on mt. Everest, and the epicenter was very to mt. Everest . Its a town called namche bazaar and the exspa dishensbg exspa dishens, they are worried about the population and they are not able to get close to the town close to the epicenter, and we have gotten accounts while people are frightened and People Living outdoors and out into the open because they are afraid to go in their houses the initial reports are not of terrible loss of life again, and the sun is about to set in nepal, and a lot will depend on the next 12 to 24 hours. Thanks so much for that. For more information on how you can help the victims of the nepal quake, go to cnn cnn. Com impact. Among 13 officers that fired shots, so why he is the only one facing the severe sentence . We will talk with the leader of a Group Supporting the officer. Ive smoked a lot and quit a lot but ended up nowhere. Now i use this. The nicoderm cq patch, with unique extended release Technology Helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. I want this time to be my last time. Thats why i choose nicoderm cq. Officers should still be held responsible for their actions, and the only way to do that in this case to hold the defendant responsible for his actions is to find him guilty. That was the prosecutor wrapping up the states case against cleveland Police Officer michael brelo. He is charged with two counts of manslaughter for the shooting deaths of two. Brelo shot 15 times through the victims window after a police chase. Thank you for being on new day. Good morning. Lets remind people about this case particularly the numbers involved in this case because they are so staggering. This happened november 29th 2012. There was a police chase through cleveland. 60 police cars gave chase of these two suspects. Once the suspects were surrounded well during the course of this 137 shots were fired at these suspects by 13 separate officers. It turns out the suspects were unarmed. Is your point about supporting officer brelo that he should not have been charged at all or that he should not have been the only person charged . Well, we would argue that mike brelo should not have been charged at all. If your viewers are unaware, this chase started with what police believed to be a gunshot, and it exceeded by some accounts 100 Miles Per Hour and maybe up to 120 Miles Per Hour through all manner of Traffic Control signals, so it was highly dangerous to everybody involved. When the chase turned around in a dead end area and the subject vehicle started coming back at the police who were chasing, thats when the gunfire started after the subjects drove into police cars. It clearly, clearly was a high stakes High Pressure situation. Nobody disputes that. By the way, what Police Officers thought was a gunshot that it began with, maybe it was a pop, they heard a pop, and it might have been a car backfiring or a gunshot, but either way once the car surrounded it was officer brelo that jumped on the hood of the victims car and shot 15 more times. Actually he first retreated. He and his partner, shot because of their fear and i reviewed the videotaped statements of all the Police Officers involved. Because of their fear for imminent harm to themselves and partners they shot through the windshield of their own car many time and then they bailed out as did other officers that engaged in this shooting with the blair of sirens and blazing lights and strobes, and it was grand versus conner the decision about these cases, did he act reasonably is the question . The Prosecutor Says no, it was not reasonable for officer brelo to jump on the hood of the victims car and to shoot 15 times at the victims. Thats what the Prosecutor Says that was not fear necessarily, and that sounds like anger. Well this entire round of gunfire, the entire event, took place over the course of 18 seconds, and that included gaps in the fire. So were talking about an officer who believes he is about to be hit by the subject vehicle, who believes both people in the car have weapons who where gunfire was already started by other Police Officers, and mike brelo is in the middle of this as depicted in the state attorneys general report. Well there were conflicting reports coming over the police scanner. Let me play you an illustration of that. Use caution, occupants are armed. So heard two separate things. The suspects are armed, and he doesnt have an arm, he has a black glove and not a gun. Why was that car hit with a barrage of bullets . Well this is really the case depending on the belief of mike brelo and heavily on the belief of other Police Officers involved and from the statements i reviewed each and every one of them had a reasonable fear that they were in imminent jeopardy from the subjects and not only from the potential of weapons in the hands of the subject, but when the car turned back towards the pursuers the car became a weapon too, and hit the car adjacent sun the to brelos and was rolling towards them and the car was a weapon as well. No doubt this was a high anxiety moment and 13 officers firing and 137 shots fired, and 15 of them by mike brelo, and how is all of that not Excessive Force . Again, this case hopefully will be judged by the standards laid out by the supreme court, and that is what would a reasonable Police Officer have done in officer brelos shoes, and what did a dozen other officers close to the center of the chase, what did they do . They started to fire as well. Based on all of these beliefs and based on this lengthy chase, and not knowing what was in the car but suspecting a gun had been fired and raised during the lengthy pursuit. The question is not for you and me, alisyn because we are citizens but what would a reasonable officer do . A judge will be decide we understand it as early as may 18th. How do you think this case is going to end . I hope and the judge has said this he is going to put the extraneous voices like yours and mine this morning to the side and make his decision based on the facts. My hope is that mike brelo is acquitted of these charges. I dont think he should have been charged. I think 12 other officers given the radio transmissions, and the highspeed chase that occurred they may have been wrong, but according to the supreme court, you can be wrong and still be reasonable if you are a Police Officer. That does happen. This defines policing in our country today, and the police are approaching situations and it just happened in hattice burg mississippi, not knowing what is in the car and trying to figure it out and wishing they had more time to make the decision. This is the National Conversation we seem to be having every week about policing in this country, and we thank you for having the conversation with us this morning. Lets get to chris. Jeb bush is raising a lot of cash and some saying as much as 100 million. Why are his numbers in the polls dipping dipping . Thats coming up. On 6 different criteria, why did a panel of 11 automotive experts name the Volkswagen Golf motor trends 2015 car of the year . Well give you four good reasons. The Volkswagen Golf. Starting at 19,295, theres an awardwinning golf for everyone. When youre on vacation, its time to play. So at hilton we say play hooky from your regular monday. And while youre at it play hooky from the ordinary. The uninspired. The routine. 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We know that. Thats why we are here. Let me ask you, ana, the scoop is that your friend jeb bush misheard the question from megan kelly and answered it the way he did because of that . I think he did. I think frankly he was referring to what we knew then not what we know now. Its the only way the entire answer makes sense, because then he goes to to say what you just posted him saying was that the information was faulty. Look the only person probably running in the race who did see the information and the intel was Hillary Clinton, and she voted yes, and based on that intel, a lot of people would have voted yes and thats what he said. But, paul the question was knowing what we know today happened in iraq would you still have done what your brother did to invade, and he said yes, he would do the same thing that george w. Bush did . I didnt know he had a hearing impairment and we pray for his swift recovery and the question was, we lost almost 4,500 heroes over a trillion dollars, and trends of thousands of troops wounded, and would you have done it and the only answer is certainly not. If he gives that answer all of us run with he doesnt agree with his brother. Its not really a fair premise for questioning him . Why would you take a bad decision. He is the only one that is being held to a standard that nobody else is and is it fair to ask that to him . Yes. He wants to be our president. It was his brothers decision to mislead us into iraq was the most consequential mistake, and Hillary Clinton said it was a mistake and she should not have casted that vote. Its the biggest disaster we have had as a country. He is a fine man, but not a good president. Lets put it in context here. He gave a solid interview on a bunch of different issues and the one thing we are focusing on is that iraq question. That was an eyebrow raising one. People are salacity to see jeb throw his brother under the bus and to see space in between them, and jeb loves his brother and thats going to be something hard for him to do. Should he have answered the question the way he did . No nobody running for hypothetical questions, you dont answer them. I need to write that down. He answered it the way Hillary Clinton answered it when the intelligence was put in front of her. As it stands he is saying he would have done exactly the same thing. Do you think we will hear a clarification from jeb bush . I dont know if you will hear it. I can tell you that i emailed him this morning and i said hey, i am a little confused by this answer, so i am wondering did you mishear the question and he said yes, and when you hear the entirety of this answer and he talks about the faulty information, its hard not to conclude that he misheard the question. So what is his answer . He must have heard if we knew what we knew then what was his answer . I didnt ask him. Thats one for his spokesperson not for me. Its too early in the morning, okay for me to be exchanging emails and being coherent about something that happened ten years ago. You look good. Frankly the last thing he should be doing is relitigating this. Lets talk about another issue that came out in the interview, and thats about immigration. He said he would reverse president obamas executive action executive order on letting dreamers stay in the country. What do you think of that paul . Well he is going to have to run on that and i think thats going to really not be looked well upon certainly by latino americans and by angloamericans angloamericans, and the idea that we should take children and no nothing else and deport them. He didnt say that they should all be deported. He said he would with draw the executive order, and many believe that to be he doesnt mean nobody on the republican side thinks that executive action was the right way to achieve that. What he also said was that he would pass Immigration Reform and that the executive orders wouldnt be repealed and affect those that are right now being held by them so not to disrupt their lives. What i interpreted it to mean i want to repeal them and they should be repealed and this is not the way to do it but we need to pass Immigration Reform and not leave those folks in limbo. Theres a bunch of folks in limbo now. Remember part of the executive orders that were passed are in litigation right now, and they have not been put in effect. This is not the way to solve immigration. Everybody wants legislation, and of course legislation would supersede an executive order, and that goes without saying and everybody wants it. We have a Republican Party, a Tea Party Congress mr. Bushs own party, and its blocking reform and the president said we are not going to deport children who have done nothing wrong. Mr. Bush now probably wants to deport them. Thank you for all the medical advice as well. Tkpwt stuffhe good stuff is coming up. Stick around for that, please. Its a good one. When broker chris hill stays at laquinta he fires up the free wifi with a network thats now up to 5 times faster than before so he can rapidly prepare his presentation. And when he perfects his pitch, do you know what chris can do . And that is my recommendation. Lets see if hes ready. He can swim with the sharks hes ready. La quinta inns suites take care of you, so you can take care of business. Book your next stay at lq. Com la quinta this is a story. So this dresser, he picks up a dresser for a buck. Lets put it in sidewalks. We leaned it in sidewalks, and it sounded like a slot machine, and it was like thethe hardy boys. 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