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Even have been carrying a gun. The newspaper, tulsa world, is reporting that some supervisors at the Tulsa County Sheriffs Office were ordered to falsify the Training Records for robert bates. Tulsa World Reports that at least three of bates supervisors were assigned reassigned after refusing to sign the training documents. The report does not say who asked the supervisors to allegedly falsify the records. The paper says the false records give bates credit for Field Training he never completed and firearm certifications he should have not gotten. The training documented obtained by cnn omit the names of the supervisors who signed off on them. Records show in the last seven years bates has taken a variety of courses. Everything from weapons training including glock, taser and rock river training as well as less than lethal Delivery System training sessions. The Sheriffs Office denies the allegations. And the newspapers report. They also decline cnns interview request to respond to the claims. Local medias reporting that the tulsa Sheriffs Office plans a major audit of its reserve Deputy Program which robert bates was a part of, chris. Ryan changing the program is one thing. Whether or not that program was legit with mr. Bates very different in light of this new reporting. Thank you for setting the groundwork for us there. Lets bring in the reporters who are offering this story. Dylan goforth and zeva they are of tulsa world. Thanks for both of you being here. Lets set the table. When this happened with bates, the Police Department came out, the Sheriffs Department the authorities, they gave us the training documents. They gave us a memo saying he was trained. His lawyer then came on the show and echoed that sentiment about how dont see him as a 73yearold business owner, he was just like any other deputy. Listen to what he said. Hes got the training. Every news outlet has checked with the certifying agency in the state of oklahoma. Everyone has been told he is a certified reserve deputy in the state of oklahoma and has all the requisite powers that come with that. Hes done the training. Hes proven himself on the firing range. Dylan, what do you make of that statement in light of your reporting . Well from what i understand from talking to c. L. E. A. T. They received the records from the Sheriffs Office and keep them. They dont necessarily go and do it themselves. So them having the records i dont think necessarily proves they were not falsified. Zeva have you ever heard of the instructors names being redacted on documents like this . No i dont see any purpose for that. You would think the Sheriffs Office if in fact there has been no pressure applied, no falsification of records that they would be forthcoming with these documents. We certainly hope they are. Weve asked for them. They said they dont believe theyre public records. There are hundreds of hours that may have been falsified, at least three supervisors that our sources said were transferred, were disciplined because they refused to sign off on training that bates never received includeing weapons training. Lets unpack this a bit. Youre saying your sources tell you basically two big headlines. The first is he didnt get the training they say he got. The second one is and when the Training Instructors were approached to help falsify his training some refused and they were acted upon they were removed. Do i have it right, dylan . Yes. They were pretty much immediately thats what were being told. We heard it from numerous sources who didnt know each other the same details over and over. We now have records to corroborate this. All right. So two other big lets talk about those records. What do you believe you have that proves it other than your interviews and reporting . There are some records we can discuss and some we cant. But bates in his statement which we obtained yesterday said that he had become an advanced deputy in 2007 which requires hundreds of hours of training. Thats a different timeline than the Sheriffs Office given. And the sheriff himself said they lost some of his handgun certification records and trying to figure out if hes even certified. Its been two days ago and we havent heard an answer to that. Those definitely kind of line up with what were being told. Lets hear from the Sheriffs Department. Heres what they had to say. For failure to sign off on his training . Not to my knowledge, no. So theres never been any concern about his training . Not that im aware of no. He has been trained. No he has 300 hours or almost 300 hours of c. L. E. A. T. Accredited training and state statute requires 25 hours of continuing education per year. So he is well in excess of what you would anticipate someone would have that was meeting minimum requirements. But no one has ever expressed concerns about his ability or training in the Sheriffs Office . Never to me. In fact just the opposite. So ziva is this a question of whether or not he has as many hours as they claim, or whether he has enough hours . I mean how would you parse it . Well i mean i think if we had the records we would be able to know for sure. What we heard there are two separate issues the Field Training hours are when they have experience in the field with officers who then will sign off on that. What we were told is that the supervisors were told to sign off on 250 hours of training. Most of that he did not have virtually all of that he did not have. And then the supervisors at the gun range were told to sign off on his handgun qualification even though he did not qualify. You have to have a 72 i think on the third try to be qualified. And he wasnt qualified as well. So the big question becomes why, dylan. When im looking at some of the documents we have here the dates all seem to be like 2009ish, 2008. Do you believe that whatever pressure was applied that this was done then at the time mr. Bates was trying to be certified so he could go on these Different Police actions as opposed to now as a coverup . Well we dont know officially yet. They have to retrain every year. It could have been at any point during that when this was going on. And we dont know because we havent seen any of the records that weve asked for. When one thing to note the trainers ziva i want you to make that point but heres the question that tees it up. The trainers who said we got pressured and they moved us was that recently or was that back when he was originally trying to get on as a deputy . It was back when he was trying to get on as a deputy. Hed already been accepted in the program. Then there was the falsification of the field Training Records initially. Then the handgun qualification records after that is what we understand. So it was, you know, back several years ago. And then ever since then he was named reserve deputy of the year in 2011. Ever since then hes been going on he said 100 or so undercover operations. Do you know why he was reserve deputy of the year . Did he do anything in the field . Any kind of Exemplary Service or Something Like that . He may have. We dont have any records of that. We do know that during that time and a year or two before that and at that time hed given the undercover unit five automobiles, donated those automobiles to the unit as well as surveillance equipment. So in terms of motivation here dylan, your sources on this point, are they telling you that this was about trying to get the sheriffs pal certified to do what he wanted . I mean what do they think was going on here . I mean thats been the allegation since they brought us his name originally. Was that this was just someone who, you know the sheriff called him a longtime friend hed taken on fishing trips. Someone the sheriff liked and that they wanted him to be able to do what he wanted to do. One of the last questions here though this is going to spur a lot more questions. Thank you for bringing the report to us this morning. One of the training exercises they did was called the okc incidentobama sign. Do you know what that was, ziva . I dont have details but im pretty sure it was some kind of free speech protest situation where someone got angry about a sign and there was some kind of standoff at a public protest. I thought some of the names of those training incidents were interesting. Theres lots of talk about takedowns of suspects and subduing suspects. So it was kind of interesting to look at the names of the training courses that he did or didnt take i dont know. All right. Its going to be very interesting to see what the pushback is that you get now in light of your sourcing coming out and the information you have. We look forward to continuing this conversation because its not just about what happened on that day. Its about why mr. Bates was there in the first place and whether he shouldnt have been. Thank you very much dylan and ziva. Good luck going forward. Thank you. Thank you. Now, in the interest of completeness not only were we reviewing what the Sheriffs Office said at the presser yesterday, but we asked them to come on this morning. They declined. They did however say that tulsa world report is unsubstantiated and deceptive. Poppy. Aaron hernandez waking up to a very new reality this morning, that he will spend the rest of his life behind bars. The former nfl star showed little emotion. But there was plenty of drama in the court as the jury convicted him of firstdegree murder. And a judge sentenced him to life in prison without parole. Jurors are now speaking out about the verdict. Our Susan Candiotti has been following this and joins us from massachusetts with the details. Reporter hi poppy. Aaron hernandez is waking up this morning in a prison that is not that far from the place where he was once a rich rising star in the nfl, gillette stadium, home of the new England Patriots. And while he was heading to that prison a source tells me he was acting as though it was business as usual. They got it wrong. Aaron hernandezs words during a transfer to a state prison wednesday. That prison close to the stadium where he once played as a new england patriot. A Law Enforcement source saying hernandez telling his jailers i didnt do it. Hours after being sentenced to life without parole. Guilty of murder in the first degree. Reporter hernandez grim faced as he heard the verdict with his mother and fiancee in tears and just feet away from the family of victim odin lloyd, no less emotional. Hernandez pursing his lips and appearing to mouth the words youre wrong. And then telling his family be strong and im okay watching them weep. A jury finding hernandez guilty of the 2013 executionstyle murder of odin lloyd shot six Times Central to the case surveillance videos that show the victim on the night of his death getting into a rented altima with hernandez and two other men. Other video showing the same car at the Industrial Park where lloyds body was found. And minutes later that car back in hernandezs driveway. Hernandezs own surveillance cameras capture him holding what prosecutors say is the murder weapon that. 45 caliber glock was never found. Surprising to the jury the defense team during closing arguments admitting hernandez was at the crime scene, saw lloyd killed but did not shoot him. After sentencing jurors tell reporters they found from the judge that hernandez now faces trial for double murder in boston. That we did the right thing. Absolutely. Reporter after the verdict lloyds mother addressed her sons killer. I forgive the hands of the people that had a hand in my sons murder. And i pray and hope that some day everyone out there will forgive them also. Reporter and after leaving the courthouse family and friends of victim odin lloyd went to his grave site releasing balloons in his memory. John. Susan candiotti. Such nice memories of odin lloyd yesterday. Thanks so much susan. New this morning in iraq intense fighting in ramadi with isis apparently on the brink of taking that city. In a cnn exclusive Cnn Senior International correspondent arwa damon joins us from baghdad with the latest. Good morning, arwa. Reporter those civilians were fleeing yesterday morning because isis had begun its onslaught. Remember they controlled the north, the south and much of the west. The vast majority of those we spoke to seem to be completely shell shocked. They were arriving at a bridge that connects umbar province forced to cross on foot because iraqi officials do not allow vehicles across piling into these metal carts. The situation since then much more dire according to the Deputy Provincial Council had located inside ramadi. He said isis overnight advancing on all fronts towards the city center now trying to launch multiple attacks against the government complex. Saying for now that Iraqi Security forces were able to repel them from that complex. Very strategic territory within the city. But they will not be able to do so for long. They are quite simply outmanned and outgunned. They have been for weeks now asking for backup from the Iraqi Government. The Iraqi Government says it sent reinforcements. Those reinforcements have yet to appear. Theyve also been begging for air strikes from the Iraqi Air Force and from the u. S. Led coalition. And those have not been happening in any sort of significant or decisive manner. The city right now very well could fall to isis. And if that happens, chris, it would be absolutely devastating to the Iraqi Government and to the civilian population. Arwa youve been reporting from the beginning that coordination is still very difficult on the ground. Thank you very much. Well stick with you on this. In other news two active members of the Army National guard are due in federal court today after allegedly trying to sell guns ammunition and body armor to mexican drug cartels. Its alleged they made more than a dozen sales to informants working for the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. Officials say they were so brazen they wore their Army Uniforms while conducting some of the transactions. Also potential hurdle for Hillary Clintons president ial campaign despite mounting criticism, a lot of news headlines, the board of the Clinton Foundation has agreed to limit but not eliminate donations from foreign governments. The foundation will continue to accept donations from australia, canada and four european countries. Critics have expressed concerns that these donations could compromise clintons president ial bid. Earlier this week she resigned from the board of the Foundation Due to the run for the white house. New details this morning about the florida man who prompted chaos in washington after landing a gyrocopter on the lawn by the capitol building. Doug hughes says he did this to protest political corruption. Turns out this isnt the first time hes been on the radar for the secret service. Lets get to rene marsh for the latest. Reporter good morning, john. Here at the capitol and the area around the white house it is the most hypersensitive portion of air space, yet this mans actions highlighted the vulnerabilities of whats supposed to be the most secure nofly zone. This is not good people. Reporter apparently undetected and unauthorized. This small aircraft sailing through the most heavily guarded air space in america. Within about 45 seconds of his initial landing there were multiple police cars on the scene. Reporter the florida mailman, 61yearold doug hughes swarmed by police and a bomb squad after landing on the west lawn of the capitol building. The bizarre incident throwing the u. S. Capitol into chaos, shutting the area down for hours. I had carefully planned it so that nobody would get hurt. Reporter in this video published by the Tampa Bay Times, hughes says flying the gyrocopter into the nofly zone was all in protest. And hed been planning it for years. Strapped to the landing gear 535 letters, one for every member of the congress opposing corporate money in politics. There are these problems and these problems and these problems that are much more important than Campaign Finance reform. But those wont get addressed until we fix Campaign Finance reform. Reporter Ben Montgomery a reporter from the Tampa Bay Times, says they alerted the secret service and the Capitol Police before takeoff. Not so says the secret service. Montgomery says he was amazed hughes made it. He was fully prepared to be blown out of the sky long before he ever entered protected air space. Reporter well we do know that this man took off from gettysburg pennsylvania. The question is why didnt anyone intervene before then . Norad says they didnt scramble any jets because they didnt hear about it until the gyrocopter already landed. Back to you, chris. Thats going to be the concern. When did they know, did they react soon enough . We know youll be on it. Former new england patriot Aaron Hernandez will spend the rest of his life behind bars. However, it took 35 hours for the jury to deliberate and find him guilty. Why so long . What was going on in that room with what was supposed to be a slam dunk case . Well hear from the jurors ahead. 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Take us to that moment. And also tell us what youve learned from the Police Officers and those that were escorting him after he was handcuffed. Reporter you know sitting in the courtroom just a mere feet away from him. Of course watching him for his every movement when that verdict was read. And as soon as it happened again, little emotion showing on his face but he immediately turns and looks to whom . To his fiancee and mother who are then openly weeping in each others arms. What struck me is he just kept turning and looking at them and at one time appearing to mouth the words be strong. So that was as terrible to watch as it was to look over perhaps more so where the victims mother was seated when she lifted her arms up in the air and pumped her arms as if in great relief that finally she got the justice she said she sought. So that was interesting to follow along that point. And when he left the courthouse a source tells me that he was telling his jailers on his way to his new prison that he said they got it wrong. I didnt do anything wrong. And so apparently it still hasnt set in yet or he knows he is already facing another trial coming up. And, mel, what was so interesting was how quickly this all progressed after the verdict. You saw all 15 jurors including the alternates, come out giving a lengthy press conference answer most of the questions posed to them and say they will only speak in unison. Do you recall a group of jurors so unified . Reporter you know i actually dont. And i actually dont recall a press conference like that poppy, immediately following a verdict where you have every single juror present. As somebody that covers trials it was fascinating to learn firsthand exactly what they were thinking and exactly which pieces of testimony they gave a lot of weight to and found compelling, namely bob kraft the owner of the patriots and which pieces they found baffling and unbelievable. Which was much of the theory of the defense, poppy. So lets take a listen to one of the jurors responding to how critical that testimony from the owner of the patriots robert kraft, was. Listen. One part for me was aarons alleged statement that he wished at the time that odin was murdered was made public. Because he was at a club at that time. To this day we just went through a threemonth trial, this is now a year and a half or two years later. We still dont know the exact time of odins murder specifically. So i dont know how aaron would have had that information two years ago. Mel, as a lawyer as someone who follows these trials closely, what does it tell you that they latched on as a group to something so nuanced . A little bit of a timeline from one of 130plus witnesses for the prosecution . Reporter well it tells us a couple things. First of all, one of the reasons why they took 35 hours is as they said it was information overload and they wanted to get it right. And what i found fascinating about it poppy, is the fact that its probably Aaron Hernandezs behavior after the murder that convicted him of firstdegree murder because of how he acted indifferent, how he lied brandishing the gun at his house that ultimately tipped the scales. And its a distinction with a difference. Had they found him guilty of murder in the Second Degree it would not be a mandatory life sentence without the possibility of parole. He would have been eligible for parole in 15 years, poppy. Susan, the headline of course because this is a former nfl star and his fall from fame and a 40 Million Contract is Aaron Hernandez, the fact is the headline should be odin lloyd and his family and what theyre going through. Can you tell us, susan, what the reaction was from odin Lloyds Family . Do they feel a sense of closure here . Reporter well i think that you have a degree of what their feeling is when you heard those very emotional words from his mother who stood before the court and said shes able to forgive those, she said the people who are responsible for her only sons murder. And thats i think, was a very telling moment about the pain that she is going through. And yet how she is trying to move ahead with this. And you know she goes to his grave site each and every day. And yesterday no different being there to meet with him and talk with him as she said she does every day. They said his departure from this world from day one, she said has left a hole in her heart. 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Here comes the rain and warm front and warmer air. Its going to be a very nice week. D. C. On saturday all the way to 80. Guys back to you. Thank you very much chad. Well stick with you on that see how it develops. Now we have news of a new report claiming supervisors were ordered to falsify records of the tulsa reserve deputy who shot and killed an unarmed man. Tulsa world newspaper reports robert bates, the man on your screen received certifications for field and weapons training that he never earned. The report at least three of his supervisors were reassigned for refusing to sign off on those certifications. Now, bates claims he accidentally drew his gun instead of his taser when he shot and killed eric harris. The Sheriffs Department is denying the new reports. But the story could get bigger. Also today, definitely a day to remember and never forget israelis and jews around the world marking the annual holocaust remembrance day. You see the solemn pictures there. 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Were talking about the Clinton Emails right there. Which serve to remind them something many had forgotten, what an abominable candidate she can be. So you wrote that before the iowa trip. Now that you have seen the iowa trip how does iowa rank there on the gradation of what an abomb nibble candidate she can be . I think in iowa shes clearly trying to make up for the mistakes she felt she made in 2008 being too high above the ground haughty, entitled. In iowa shes trying to bring it back down to earth, be more approachable more relatable i guess the keyword. Did she go so far in doing that she started to appear authentic in that way. That remains to be seen. Well see how she does over the next few weeks. Shes going to make such an emphasis to not make the mistakes of 2008 does she make a brand new bag of mistakes in 2016 sfwl abominable is usually a word reserved for snowman. Is hillary fairly judged through the lens of how she reacts . Or do you have to balance it with the types of attacks that she takes on as well . Because thats what her side says. Sure. The email server and just about Everything Else you put on her, nobody else would have gotten hit as hard. I think thats right. Just the lens that shes under. I mean, shes subjected to such scrutiny. At the same time you know she is not a natural politician. I mean shes not someone who shes not extroverted. Spent a lot of years being unnatural. She doesnt love it it seems. She loves the policy part and the substantive part but the performance part is not necessarily something she seems to enjoy. I think a lot of politicians do enjoy that. If you think of bill clinton as a standard for a natural politician shes very far away from that. Is that a fair comparison though to maybe the best at the game of dealing with the ins and outs of politics . Right. He is the best at the game. But she falls into a different level in terms of her scriptedness the cautiousness. I think thats why the road trip got so much attention. Because suddenly she has the capacity to surprise us. Going into chipotle and making headlines worldwide for ordering a burrito bowl is insane. But when it comes to Hillary Clinton, its surprising and feels fresh. And we like her a little bit more. I mean we definitely order the same thing at chipotle. Learned that. But you wrote in your times piece which was fascinating. On the one side theres a host of republicans trying to look president ial. Crisscrossing the nation in their private jets or charter jets if you will. On the other hand theres one democrat trying to look normal. As weve seen iowa play out only three days okay how would you assess her ability to look normal and the reaction from people in iowa . From the headlines ive read a lot of people were positive about what they saw at least in iowa in those few days. Sure. Some of her big donors have said this as well. She often comes into meetings with her briefing book. She opens them up she starts reading. Then she asks questions. She goes around the table. People feel like you know shes listening and shes asking smart questions. But shes not necessarily engaging in a give and take like an unscripted town hall where the people arent plants asking the questions who are throwing it at them. We didnt see that this time. We didnt see that. These were carefully selected people you know who were operating in her comfort zone talking about policy. Normalcy i think is still can we talk about the money question right now. Clinton Global Initiative overnight news going to limit which countries can continue to donate to the clinton Global Initiative, six countries like Great Britain and norway. The massive donations from norway, jason, explain if this will satisfy critics. No of course not. Shes going to get criticized for whatever she does. Even though she stepped down from the Foundation Board . Yeah. I think that is something she had to do. But i dont think that will insulate her at all from is it another half measure. Partial measure. Or is it the thrill of the unknown . Like with the email. Whats there that we dont know . Whos donated that we dont know about . Right. Something you can satisfy. Yeah. No there are questions that will be asked she will never be able to answer. And i think the scrutiny that she draws, i think a question for the press is whats fair scrutiny and whats unfair scrutiny . There are people who will never be satisfied. Thats the clinton question. Let me ask a question about Chris Christie. In New Hampshire you see it on both sides. You see Straight Talk about Social Security in a way youre not seeing from politicians but you also saw him going into a diner your paper reported on brilliantly and facing really made fun of. Flat out made fun of for bridgegate. Yeah my colleague captured that scene so well. I mean the fact that he in his first trip as a possible candidate goes in there and people are already mocking him over the bridge and bringing up well i was stuck in that traffic. You know just goes to how frankly relatable that issue is. I mean whether sort of abuse of power can lead to someone being incredibly inconvenienced stuck in traffic. The fact is these issues are going to follow him. And if in fact some indictments are going to come down in new jersey people are going to be asking questions. Theyre not going to quite know well how involved were you and how do you feel about these people . Its something hes going to have to deal with. Jason, i wonder he was asked there in the diner about Foreign Policy and he criticized the iran deal right . The iran framework. But then he said hes still studying on Foreign Policy and has been doing so for a number of months. Did you see that as a moment of authenticity or just backing away and not answering the question . I think that is a dodge. I was talking to a republican operative the other day talking about christie and how frustrated he was he isnt weighing in on these issues that he needs to read the report and things like that. People who are watching him for these things they do view it as him not actually, you know engaging. Maybe an authentic dodge. Great to have you with us. Thanks guys. Well do it again. Another big story making the rounds this morning, nbc news richard engel, he was kidnapped in syria in 2012. Nobody is disputing that. But some details of the story are now getting reexamined. Was something gotten wrong . Was this another black eye for the peacocks integrity . Well take you through the speculation and you decide. When youre living with diabetes steady is exciting. Only glucerna has carbsteady clinically proven to help minimize blood sugar spikes. So you stay steady ahead. Where do you get this kind of confidence . At your ford dealer. 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Stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. Ask your doctor about viagra. Europe has big buildings like ours. Only famous. And older. And gorgeous. And not like ours at all. The kidnappers came across a rebel check point, something they hadnt expected. The kidnappers saw this checkpoint started a gunfight with it. Two of the kidnappers were killed. We climbed out of the vehicle and the rebels took us. Youre hearing the nbc crew there, the man talking nbcs chief Foreign Correspondent richard engel, a respected journalist and recounting the moment he and two colleagues were freed from captivity in syria back in 2012 after five days. But now some details of the story seem to be changing specifically who took them who freed them and why. We should mention right off the top the kidnapping itself is not under question. You dont want to play with somebody being put through that kind of ordeal. But the question what does it mean for nbc news and their integrity. Lets bring in cnn media correspondent, host of reliable sources. Youre very well wired at nbc news. What is the plus minus on this . This is a story that had been percolating for weeks and weeks. New york times started looking into engels story of his kidnapping after the Brian Williams crisis at nbc. Questions about other stories being exaggerated not just by Brian Williams. No ones doubting he was in tremendous danger. He and his crew were in tremendous danger in syria in 2012. The questions now are whether he was accurate when he described who was behind the kidnapping and what actually happened during the kidnapping and especially in the raid that freed him and his crew. There was a fire fight at the time. Now we know according to engel and according to New York Times actually that fire fight it may have been a ruse. It may have been a setup in order to free them. In fact according to engel it says the group that freed us also had ties to the kidnappers. Essentially the story we were told in 2012 was this was a group of kidnappers affiliated with the government of assad, right . The assad regime that has done so much damage to syria. Well in fact it seems like these kidnappers had ties to the rebels the rebel groups, the moderate rebels we were hearing so much about in 2012. So the story is told the story has evolved, the question is why and how. It seems like and according to engel these kidnappers were trying to trick the nbc crew into thinking they were affiliated with assad when in fact they were the rebels. I think we have to remember theres a big difference between making something up and being wrong. Thats right. Sometimes you can just be wrong. Thats right. You thought something happened it didnt happen the way you thought it happened. I dont think anyone is suggesting that richard or his team by the way i know them i find them to be incredibly brave aggressive journalists. No ones saying they made anything up here. Thats right. One of the questions, one of the reasons the New York Times started looking into this they had nine reporters working on this in the past month or so is whether nbc knew at the time there were questions about the story. According to the times report overnight there were some people telling nbc, well we think this might not have been the assad regime after all and those concerns were put to the side. The way New York Times put it the network mufed quickly to put engel on the air with an account blaming shiite captors and did not present the other possible events. Thats not a Brian Williams type of offense. The leaders of nbc news in 2012 no longer there. Theyve also moved on. But it is a curious story because it goes to show how complicated and difficult it is to be covering a story as complicated as syria. Lets remember at the time the u. S. Turkey the saudis were backing the rebels. So its very different if it was an assad affiliated group that kidnapped them or a rebel affiliated group that kidnapped them. Because it was part of a narrative. Thats right. Engel was by far the most high profile kidnapping of a journalist. It was a terrifying ordeal. I at New York Times, us at cnn other outlets kept it a secret because we did not want to put them in further danger. Now to look back and think maybe this was not what seemed to be. Thats essentially what happened here. To look at the bigger context here is so important because nbc is urpd the microscope because of the Brian Williams saga. Tom brokaw coming out with only his second statement on this on monday at the university of chicago saying this talking about the Brian Williams issue this is a really really serious case. We owe it to everybody including brian and his family to let the process play out to hear what the financial conclusions are and then deal with it at that point. Brian williams in the midst of a sixmonth sitting out from his show. You said New York Times had nine reporters on this story . That shows how big this has gotten. Yes, they believe there was something here to investigate because there have been questions for a long time actually in media circles about what really happened with this kidnapping at nbc. Again, no one saying that he made it up. Nobody saying he exaggerated. But questions about who the kidnappers really were and questions about how he was really freed. The times thought they had a story here. Frankly i was waiting for weeks for this story to come out. But nbc did something very wise perhaps. They had engel go rereport it himself and contact sources and try to figure out exactly what happened. I heard engel wanted to rereport it himself. Which also speaks to his skills as a reporter. There was a lot of stink around this story. Youre right, it has been around. And people trying to tie engel to it in a way they werent able to do. Theres no suspension being talked about for richard engel. Hes come out and been proactive. Meanwhile Brian Williams on the bench been two and a half months another three and a half months left. Is nbc going to bring him back . This story may go away in a day or two but the Brian Williams story an anchor wrapped around nbc hurting the network confusion about whats going to happen to him. I have a feeling theyre going to make some sort of decision well before that august period before hes supposed to come back. Its also hurting not to have him on air apparently because nbc has slipped behind cbs. Seems like a lose lose situation for everybody involved in that Brian Williams story. Thanks for keeping us on top of the story. But a lot of news. Lets get to it. [ gunfire ] i shot him, im sorry. A new report calls into question whether robert bates should have even have been carrying a gun. There are hundreds of hours that may have been falsified. They got it wrong. Aaron hernandezs words. Guilty of murder in the first degree. Life without the possibility of parole. I think we can all stand here and say we made the right decision. The jury found that he was just a man who o committed a brutal murder. We need to do more than just get by. We need to get ahead and stay ahead. Let me ask you about mrs. Clintons campaign. Can you beat her, Chris Christie . If i run i will beat her. This is not good people. Im going to violate the nofly zone. And im going to land on the capitol mall. He was fully prepared to be blown out of the sky. This is new day with chris cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and michaela pereira. Welcome to new day. Alisyn and michaela off. Poppy and john joining me. We have new questions about a reserve deputy who shot and killed a black man earlier this month. A new report in tulsa world says supervisors were ordered to falsify robert bates record giving the 73yearold credit for training he never received. And now the reserve Deputy Program, the whole program that put bates on the streets with a gun in control of that situation is under review. This as copies of bates Training Record come to light. Lets bring in our ryan young. Hes tracking the latest developments for us. What do we know at this hour ryan . Reporter poppy, there are a lot of questions about the 73yearold. In fact days after this shooting people had questions about his Training Record. I can now tell you that the tulsa world report is now saying that supervisors at the county Sheriffs Office were told to falsify the Training Records for bates. In fact the tulsa World Reports that three of bates supervisors were reassigned after refusing to sign the training documents. Now, the report does not say who asked the supervisors to allegedly falsify the records. Now, people have seen this video. They heard bates say hes sorry after saying he was reaching for his taser and instead pulled a gun and shot this man who later died. But like i say records show in the last seven years bates has taken a variety of courses, everything from weapons training including glock, taser and rock river training. Now, all these Training Records were suppose to show bates was ready to be on the streets with his gun and taser training. But now all thats coming under question. Weve tried to contact that Sheriffs Department to figure out exactly whether or not this report is true. They are saying right now they are going through all the records they have to try to put all this together. But obviously its going to need more examination after these new reports have come forward and this video has surfaced. All right, ryan. Rock river and some of those other things are obviously the types of weapons he was supposedly trained on. More information to come on this story. Ryan stay on it for us. Appreciate it. In full disclosure we invited the tulsa Sheriffs Office to come on this morning. They declined. They did call the tulsa world report unsubstantiated and deceptive. Earlier this morning we spoke to the reporters behind this reporting and they say they standby what theyve found. Heres what they said to us. You would think the Sheriffs Office if in fact there has been no pressure applied, no falsification of records that they would be forthcoming with these documents. We certainly hope they are. Weve asked for them. They said they dont believe theyre public records. There are hundreds of hours that may have been falsified, at least three supervisors that our sources said were transferred were disciplined because they refused to sign off on training that bates never received including weapons training. The trainers who said we got pressured and they moved us was that recently or was that back when he was originally trying to get on as a deputy . It was back when he was trying to get on as a deputy. Hed already been accepted in the program. Then there was the falsification of the field Training Records initially then the handgun qualification records after that is what we understand. So it was, you know back several years ago. And eversince then named reserve deputy of the year in 2011 ever since then hes been going on he said a hundred or so undercover operations. Do you know why he was reserve deputy of the year . Did he do anything in the field, any kind of Exemplary Service or Something Like that . He may have. We dont have any records of that. We do know during that time and a year or two before that and at that time hed given the undercover unit five automobiles. Donated those automobiles to the unit as well as surveillance equipment. So in terms of motivation here dylan, your sources on this point, are they telling you that this was about trying to get the sheriffs pal certified to do what he wanted . I mean what do they think was going on here . I mean thats been the allegation since they brought us his name originally. Was that this was just someone who, you know the sheriff had called him a longtime friend hed taken on fishing trips. Someone that the sheriff liked and that they wanted him to be able to do what he wanted to do. They wanted him to be able to do what he wanted to do. What will all that mean now . Lets bring in retired lapd Sergeant Sergeant sergeant sheryl dor si. Good to have you with us. Sergeant as always whats your take on this situation . Have you even heard of anything like this before . Like just to get a reserve auxiliary deputy on to the force these types of shenanigans, if true . No you know ive never heard of such foolishness. But for the fact someone tragically lost their life, this would be comedy. To falsify the credentials of someone and put them in a sting operation because he just wants to play cop, you know like i said, its unkonsable. What does that say about mr. Bates that he would want to he knew that he was unqualified, that he by his own admission according to his written statement had not fired his Service Revolver since the fall of 2014. Why would you want to insert yourself into such a highly charged environment . Who does that . Now, when we talk about excessive force, and you know in fair reporting on this we dont know that its true yet. We hear the reporting. Were vetting the reporting. But if it is true people could look at this and say, well this isnt what the problem is with excessive force. This is something else. However, do you see a through thread in how the Police Departments deal with situations when they come up about whether they close ranks or whether theyre open to scrutiny . Absolutely its about excessive force. We understand that the problems that we see, like i said theyre systemic. When i say top down im talking about the chief of police. He understood what this mans situation was before he allowed him to go out into the field with these deputies on this sting operation. And then to hear that hes deputy of the year are you kidding me . Hes deputy of the year because hes the sugar daddy for that Police Department. And i just think its terrible. And then i understand that initially there was going to be no review of this program. How many other pay to play deputies are out there. How many other volunteer deputies are out there that are unqualified and are daily jeopardizing the lives of the real Police Officers as well as putting the community in harms way . Now, you also pointed out early on that while were focused on bates you say there was another guy involved in this an undercover guy that after harris was shot he had his knee on his head and when harris was saying im losing my breath he said f your breath. To you thats just assin indicative of what we saw with bates, why . Because it speaks volumes to the inhumanity of those officers. Those men understood this man was possibly taking his last breath. For them to be dishonest and say he couldnt breathe when he hear him screaming lets me know that they cant be trusted as well. And at the very minimum we have an administrative disciplinary situation because its unprofessional. Its callous. Thats somebodys son. Thats somebodys father. And to know they spent the last moments of their life and the last thing they heard was someone tell their loved one f your breath uncon shenable. Lets flip the scenario of perspective. You were on the job. You know the fear you know the risk you know the concern whether or not youre going to get home to your family. Thats what were hearing from people in Law Enforcement. Youre looking at that guy with his knee on his head. I have to cuff him. I dont know if hes still dangerous. He just sold a weapon. He may have another one. Horrible things happen all the time. Im in the moment. Im scared. Im angry that this guys running from us. Are we not giving when people criticize the actions of officers are they not giving enough credit to the stress in the situation . Listen thats why we have the training that we have. And thats why we practice with one another before we go out into the field to conduct these kinds of operations. And so if youre scared then maybe you should call the police right . You dont get to do something thats inappropriate and then try to minimize and mitigate it by saying i want to go home. I promise you mr. Harris had no gun in his neck. Ive never seen a suspect in all my days carry a gun in his head. Ive worked south Bureau Operations crash where we dealt with gangsters, we did search warrants we did sting operations. And like i said escalation deescalation of force. You use that force necessary to take that person into custody. Once you have them contained, then you deescalate. And you can take them to jail and allow them to have their dignity. Right. How about that . Eric harris on that issue the police say he may have had one in his belt not around his head or neck youre saying because thats where the officers knee was. One last point though sergeant. People will say dont run. You run, you trigger a series of events with a Police Officer that winds up bad nine times out of ten. Is that a fair criticism . Well criticism i dont know. But i always say comply because you never know which officer you just pulled out of that bag of tricks. You dont know if you have a tim loman like the one that killed tamir rice or a darren wilson. I always say comply and do what the officers say. But he did a bad thing and he was trying to get away. Thats inherent to police work. We know people dont want to go to jail. We got to take them into custody but we have to do it professionally ethically and morally right. Theres a way to do that. It happens every day. Police officers are doing their job the right way. And these few are giving the profession a black eye. Well its a good perspective to have there. The overwhelming majority of officers like when you were doing the job are doing it the right way. Were focusing on the bad apples because thats how you cause change. Sergeant dorsey thank you very much. Well continue the conversation. Poppy. Well it is day one of a life sentence for Aaron Hernandez, the former nfl star convicted of firstdegree murder sentenced to life in prison without parole during the dramatic conclusion to his lengthy trial. Now the jurors following seven days of deliberations are speaking out about why they made the decision they did. Susan candiotti was in the courtroom through it all. She joins us this morning in fall river, massachusetts. Reporter you keep hearing time and again is why did Aaron Hernandez do this . Why did he commit murder when he seemed to have it all . Well despite that guilty verdict or because of the guilty verdict he is waking up this morning in a place, in a prison where he was once close by sorry. He wakes up in a prison that is close to gillette stadium, the place where he was once a rising star with the new England Patriots. They got it wrong. Aaron hernandezs words during his transfer to a state prison wednesday. That prison close to the stadium where he once played as a new england patriot. A Law Enforcement source saying hernandez telling his jailers i didnt do it. Hours after being sentenced to life without parole. Guilty of murder in the first degree. Reporter hernandez grimfaced as he heard the verdict. With his mother and fiancee in tears and just feet away from the family of victim odin lloyd no less emotional. Hernandez pursing his lips and appearing it to mouth the words, be strong and im okay they got it wrong. A jury finding hernandez guilty of the 2013 executionstyle murder of odin lloyd shot six times. Central to the case surveillance videos that show the victim on the night of his death getting into a rented altima with hernandez and two other men. Other video showing the same car at the Industrial Park where lloyds body was found. And minutes later that car back in hernandezs driveway. Hernandezs own surveillance cameras capture him holding what prosecutors say is the murder weapon. That. 45 caliber glock was never found. Surprising to the jury the defense team during closing arguments admitting hernandez was at the crime scene, saw lloyd killed but did not shoot him. After sentencing jurors tell reporters they found out from the judge that hernandez now faces trial for double murder in boston. Yes. Do you wish that we did the right thing. Absolutely. Reporter after the verdict lloyds mother addressed her sons killer. I forgive the hands of the people that had a hand in my sons murder. And i pray and hope that some day everyone out there will forgive them also. Reporter and after leaving the courthouse family and friends of victim odin lloyd went to his grave site releasing balloons in his memory. John. All right, Susan Candiotti in fall river. Thanks so much. Hillary clinton giving the first hints of policy positions for her president ial campaign. What did she say and when will we get more than just hints . Lets get answers from cnns Political Correspondent Brianna Keilar following the Clinton Campaign for us in des moines this morning. Reporter hi john. I think youre going to have to wait a while. I think you said hints i think its what its going to be for a little bit. Hillary met with democratic lawmakers here at the state house in des moines. She talked about a number of topics immigration, incarceration, money and politics did not take any questions. But this was a visit that is key to her Campaign Strategy in iowa which is really to rebuild from a very local level the democratic the Iowa Democratic party. It was music to these lawmakers ears. In fact some of them who had been on the fence about whether to support Hillary Clinton told cnn they have now moved to her corner. This followed another event this followed another event where she met with Small Business owners. And she really continued her message of fighting for the middle class and taking on big money and corporations. We need to do more than just get by. We need to get ahead and stay ahead. As individuals, as families as businesses and as our country. Reporter the big policy headline came from her campaign yesterday. So through her campaign Hillary Clinton going farther on samesex marriage than she ever has before. She said its a constitutional right, the Supreme Court should rule as such. And before she had said it should be left up to states. So looking back on her couple of days here she really was making herself available to iowans in a way that a startup candidate might. But not so much her availability to the press modeled on that of a startup candidate. Well see if that changes a little bit as she goes to other swing states, chris. I can hear her supporters now saying well both positions are consistent. If its a constitutional right it will be up to the states to figure out how to put it in effect. Bet your lunch on that. New jersey governor Chris Christie says dont forget about he. He went to New Hampshire talking tough as always about what he would do as president. Senior washington correspondent joe johns joins us with more. Joe, he was talking about policy. We havent heard a lot about that from his side of the party. It was a little refreshing i think. Chris christie really turning on the charm in New Hampshire looking for a restart in a state thats been known to give politicians second chances. Hes been dogged by the bridgegate scandal taking ribbing from voters on it even in New Hampshire. But later christie appearing in the kind of forum he sees as highlighting his strength, a town hall attended by about 200 people laid out a bunch of policy positions on fixing Social Security opposing the administrations move on cuba on vaccinations and he took a big swing at Hillary Clinton. Listen. Read somewhere today that secretary clinton said she wants to she intends to raise 2. 5 billion for her campaign but she wants to then get the corrupting money out of politics. Its classic, right . Its classic politician speak. Reporter by the way, he also said he would be a better president than jeb bush if he got the opportunity. Christie sounds a lot like a candidate, but he told that audience you just saw there that hes not going to make a decision on whether to get into the race until late spring or early summer. Poppy. Joe johns reporting for us. Thanks joe, appreciate it. Right now in iraq the key city of ramadi is said to be even closer were hearing within hours possibly of falling to isis. An official in Anbar Province says the situation has deteriorated so rapidly and so much that unless reinforcements arrive soon remaining forces will essentially pull back the iraqi forces will give up. 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Find out if you can get your first prescription at no cost by visiting myrbetriq. Com Aaron Hernandez may have been a wellknown new England Patriots Football Player however in the end the jury found that he was just a man who committed a brutal murder. The fact that he was a professional athlete meant nothing in the end. The verdict is in. Aaron hernandez will spend the rest of his life in prison after being found guilty of firstdegree murder. One man with unique insight into hernandezs personality, the conditions the former football star can expect in prison is Bristol County sheriff joining me now. Thank you for being with me. So our viewers know you run a correctional facility where hernandez was held for about eight months before he went to trial. I understand you got to know him very very well. One thing that stood out to me is that you say Aaron Hernandezs trigger, real trigger, is being disrespected. Yeah. You know during my course of my time i spent some time with him talking over his incarceration with us. And it became more and more clear to me that his narcissistic wound is really around being disrespected. His dad was somebody who commanded respect from the entire family. I think losing his dad at 16 clearly from my perspective, i think, that was a devastating time for him. That was the person that kept him on the straight and narrow. And i think in some ways he sort of thats the part of his fathers memory hes held onto. And if you disrespect him, i think in some respects youre disrespecting his father who he was so close to. But no excuse at all for this. However it goes to the issue of what could have motivated this right . A thing that was at play and at question throughout the trial. Let me ask you this he was under your eye for eight months. And you got very close to him. You said you had sort of a fatherly relationship with him at some points. What do you make of his reaction in the courtroom yesterday. Some saying he was flat his reaction. Paul callan said that indicated he may be psychopathic. What did you make of his reaction when the verdict was read . I think, you know my feeling is he is probably a sociopath. Hes somebody i ran a Criminal Division and ive never seen somebody as good as him being able to compartmentalize. Hes excellent at compartmentalizing and pushing away things. I think thats what we saw in the courtroom yesterday. He just doesnt want to face what hes dealing with in reality. And he just chooses not to look at it. I wonder if he believes he truly didnt do this is responsible for this. Because yesterday our Susan Candiotti reporting as he was walked out of that courtroom in handcuffs that he said to one of the deputies there i didnt do it they got it wrong. Well its hard to know what hes actually thinking if deep down inside he really believes it. But as i said he has a way of being able to compartmentalize things and not look at them. He can be in selfdenial, but i think probably deep down inside when he gets that glimmer of light hell recognize it. Again, i reiterate that the headlines are about Aaron Hernandez because it was this huge fall from grace superstardom but what about the victim . Odin lloyd, somebody who had been his close for friends year. Did he ever talk about odin lloyd and that friendship . Anything about him in those eight months . No. And i was very careful not to talk about anything to do with this case or anything associated with this case. I really spent a lot of time sort of digging into him, what he was about and about his Family History and so forth. Hes moving moved from your facility to another facility where hell spend the rest of his life without a chance for parole. Give us a sense of what the conditions will be like there, what hes walking into. Well hes going to walk into a life, well of course he went into a stadium where he was cheered by thousands of people in a very different kind of uniform. Hell go into this prison where he wont get anybody cheering for him and living a very simple life. Hell be told when he can eat, what hes going to eat and how much he can eat. There will be no moving around except when hes permitted within the schedule to do that. It will be a very simple life and one that wont offer a lot of amenities. I know you were surprised your facility was keeping him sort of separated at the beginning there. And you were surprised actually that he initiated this fistfight while he was under your watch there. Yeah. We were. Actually we were trying being a high profile inmate you want to make sure youre protecting them from any predators that want to try to get some stature within the facility. And in this case we realized actually we had to not thinking about it at the time but we had to actually protect the potential predators against him in this instance. Right. Let me ask you this sheriff. Youve had sort of this rise in terms of your profile in the media. Youve been all over the place. Your face has been across the media outlets. And sometimes said this is about advancing your own career. Let me ask you why youve spoken out so much. And do you have higher political aspirations as part of this . You know theyve been saying that about me since ive been a sheriff for 18 years, i speak out on a lot of issues. The fact of the matter is this isnt about politics. What cnn has done, what a lot of these news stations have done by digging in and letting know what life is like and looking at the cells and so forth, i cant think of a better lesson for children to see a guy they revered how quickly making bad choices can end you up in a place like a prison with no choices in your life. I just hope that odin Lloyds Family gets as much attention as Aaron Hernandez. The amazing move by his mother yesterday saying i forgive you in a mother who lost their child. Good to have you on the program. Have a great day. Guys, back to you. Thanks poppy. Heres a question for you, what is more important for Chris Christie . Social security . The socalled third rail of politics or the third lane on the road to the George Washington bridge . John king goes inside politics next. Big day . Ah, the usual. Moved some new cars. Hauled a bunch of steel. Kept the supermarket shelves stocked. Made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. Whats up for the next shift . Ah, nothing much. Just keeping the lights on. laugh nice. Doing the big things that move an economy. See you tomorrow, mac. See you tomorrow, sam. Just another day at norfolk southern. A new report claims that supervisors were ordered to falsify records of a tulsa reserve deputy who shot and killed an unarmed man. Tulsa world, the newspaper there, reports that robert bates received certifications for training that he never earned. They reportedly released three of his supervisors were reassigned for not signing off on those allegedly bogus certifications. The Sheriffs Department is denying these new reports. Authorities now preparing to double the search zone size for Malaysia Airlines flight 370. Senior ministers from malaysia australia and china now agreeing to expand the search from 60 to 120,000 square kilometers doubling the size. If the plane is not found in the coming months a search of the current zone in the southern indian ocean should be completed by may. That will certainly be welcome news from the families who want answers. Getting paid to walk because she does it well, but shes also done it for the last time. Here she is going down the runway. This is marking the end of her 20year career since 14 shes been in it. One final stroll down the runway during a fashion week in her native brazil. Tom brady, her husband, front row for the farewell. Bundchen called it a privilege to be doing her last fashion show by choice. She says shell still be working in other facets of the business. I read that slowly for your benefit, john berman. My friend tom brady had a lovely post on facebook about gisele and how proud he is of her. In your minds eye, better looking gisele or tom brady . I dont have to answer that. You know whos better looking . John king. I choose gisele. Of course you would. Sorry. Pretty easy choice. Im a big fan of tom brady. Hes going to win another super bowl next year. Shell have less work get to go to more games. Jet lets get to politics and leave the sports behind. Gisele leave you behind for a moment. Busy day in politics. Ed shake his head okeeffe a giants fan, a lions fan ron . Yes, long suffering. Long stuffing son of detroit and lions fan. Lets get to the substance on this morning. Hillary clinton is in iowa. Part of this rollout, nothing to do with her events yesterday, well get to sort of what they look like. But with nothing to do with those her campaign put out a statement yesterday and this is from her campaign spokesperson. Hillary clinton supports Marriage Equality and hopes the Supreme Court will come down onned side of samesex couples being guaranteed that constitutional right. The significant part is that constitutional right. Youll remember back in june 2014 almost a year ago now, she did an interview with npr when she was starting she left secretary of state, starting to reemerge politically and talked then in the npr interview, number one she said she was glad states were looking at this. 37 states now allow samesex marriage. She said she was glad states were going state by state and people were pushing for it. And then she had this exchange. You know i have to say i think you are being very persistent, but you are playing with my words and playing with what is such im just trying to clarify so i can understand. No i dont think you are trying to clarify. I think youre trying to say i used to be opposed and now im in favor. And i did it for political reasons. And thats just flat wrong. What is the significance . Is there a significance of what we saw yesterday . Shes saying constitutional amendment. In that interview she was applauding the state by state efforts. One big difference is theres actually a case before the Supreme Court right now. So this could happen. Is she changing her position . This is a high profile example of me tooism. She understands that the Supreme Courts decision is coming. Looks like it will probably be favorable to samesex marriage. Shes trying to clarify this when shes clearly trying to drum up as much base support as she can. Shes got to make clear on this number one social issue. Shes clearly trying to make a play for Elizabeth Warren democrats as well. This is all part of that. And, look Public Opinion has shifted. It shifted since she took positions in 08. The current president of the United States has changed his position. I think millions of americans have probably changed their positions on this as they watch this and talk to their kids about this. The remarkable part to me is how fast this has moved in the country. George w. Bush 11 years ago won reelection, closed his campaign. The last line of his speeches in the final weeks was reelect me and i will fight for a constitutional amendment to protect marriage. Right. I dont think weve seen a social issue move this quickly. And Hillary Clinton like a lot of politicians is finally getting herself on the right side of history. The reason why this is a particular problem for her and not someone like barack obama who is also involved is because of the way she handles things like this. Terry gross was right. She wasnt playing with hillarys words. She was trying to clarify a fast evolving changing position. And Hillary Clinton denied the obvious. So now she looks like a flipflopper. Now she looks like someone who wont tell us where she really stands on issues. Now she looks like somebody whos only being an opportunist. Thats not terry grosss fault, not Barack Obamas fault, not the media fault, thats Hillary Clintons fault. Im not sure i completely agree with you im stun. If even youre being attacked in an interview and im not saying she was being attacked but the gift of a skilled politician is to weave their way out without intensifying the confrontation. Instead of pushing back saying heres where i stand now, ive changed like a lot of people but she wanted to play both ways. Things are evolving. But remember one of the largest money constituencies in the Democratic Party remains the point. I covered dont ask dont tell and part of that was driven by the fact that the president and Congressional Democrats had to be able to raise money from gay and lesbian donors. And i think this is probably part of it. Sort of saying to them dont worry, i understand im with you. Feel free to support me. And you mention in this rollout weve watched her, shes laid out some principles for her campaign. She says details will come economic plan big Campaign Finance plan, other issues as well. Its clear shes not allowing a lot of space to her left. If you think Elizabeth Warrens going to run for president , if you still think the draft war movement is going to work, i think you can probably put the nail in the coffin today. Time has the most 100 influential people in the country, Elizabeth Warren is on that list this year. Time asked somebody to write, Hillary Clinton writes the blurb this year about Elizabeth Warren saying its always going to take a special kind of leader to pick up Elizabeth Warren never lets us forget the work of taming wall streets irresponsible risk taking and reforming our Financial System is far from finished. Thats a big hug. Uhhuh. Its also taking up ted kennedys mantle in the senate not campaign trail. Put it right where she wants her. Is this significant at all . The Clinton Foundation Hillary Clinton has left the board of foundation to run for president. The foundation has taken some heat for taking donations. Now they say theyre going to stop that almost. They will continue to take money from australia, canada germany, the netherlands, norway and the united kingdom, the good guys democracies if you will. Is that okay . No. You cant be a little bit pregnant. Shes going to be president of the United States these are allies but they also have interests and ways they might want to influence our government. And theyre giving money to a potential president rnl candidates family foundation. That should not happen. Speaking of rollouts the Hillary Campaign is happy with her so far. Sure they were controlled events politicians do thachlt shes entitled to try that just like everybody else. She better do it. Thats right. Smart politics. What about marco rubio . Hes a little different. Came back to washington to do some senate business, now hes going to raise a lot of money. What are they thinking . This is a slow roll for him. Dramatic announcement in monday and now he really has to go out and raise a lot of money. We understand hell have three events in florida, there is money for him to be had there despite jeb bush. He will hold two efbts in texas next week as well. A sizable amount of support for him there despite Ted Cruz Rick perry. And eventually making visits to places like New Hampshire and iowa. They knew they had to get him out there, make it official have a nice rollout this week which theyve been having. Hes been interviewed by just about everyone. I dont know if you got your interview yet. Have you had yours . He will hit the campaign. Real quickly back on Hillary Clinton, i think shes doing the right thing by starting slow. This is exactly what shes got to do. On rubio its interesting, he realizes hes not going to be able to raise a lot of money, so theyre looking for the money ball approach where you use data to be as efficient as you can with your money. Theyre looking dood that with politics. Either thats true or its spin because they cant raise a lot of money. Back to you in new york mr. Cuomo, another guy were waiting to see is Chris Christie. Remember in london he talked about parents having choices when it comes to vaccinations. Chris christie on the trail in New Hampshire yesterday. I cannot be someone who supports voluntary vaccination. I think that would be the wrong step for the Public Health of our country. I think parents need to be listened to. Always. But in the end theres some hard decisions we have to make about this. And i would ere on the side of protecting Public Health through vaccine unless that vaccine was proven to be dangerous. Interesting to watch mr. Cuomo christie using these town halls to revive his image. Hes low in the polls but says he has plenty of time. Parents have some option but much more emphasis on Public Health from governor christie. Hes on the line on that one. Theyre on the line when they say, hey, we got to get the money out of politics. Not going to see anybody unilaterally disarm. These will be the issues we judge them on. John king always a pleasure. Take care. That air space over the white house, its supposed to be like the safest air space in the world, right . We have to protect someone very valuable. Then how did this guy get in . Flying on that go cart or whatever it was. Well tell you. Weve got a reporter who followed the whole thing. Tmobile is breaking the rules of wireless. And the Samsung Galaxy s6 edge is breaking the rules of design. Cant get your hands on it because youre locked down by a carrier . Break free tmobile will pay every penny of your switching fees. Get ahead of the curve and get your hands on the galaxy s6 edge for 0 down at tmobile today. Wait, what is that . A new outdoor cleaner from scotts its powered by oxiclean and its chlorine bleachfree so its safe to use around grass and plants. Get scotts new outdoor cleaner plus oxiclean. Clean your outdoor space. Clean it. It was bizarre, it was dangerous, but it was interesting to say the least. The gyrocopter not helicopter landing in the middle of the lawn near the u. S. Capitol. The pilot 61yearold mailman trying to make a statement about money and politics. Few people know more about hughes intentions than Tampa Bay Times writer Ben Montgomery. Ben actually interviewed hughes as he was planning the protest flight. Live tweeted incident as it unfolded. And now hes joining us live on new day. Thanks for coming to pass along the reportage. He called me a year ago, didnt identify himself but he said im going to commit an act of civil disobedience nobodys going to get hurt. But i might get shot down or i might get arrested. And i really need somebody to tell the backstory in the event something bad happens. And so we get calls like that from time to time in the newsroom. And there was something about this guy that i thought maybe we should have a cup of coffee. So i met him in person. He had this very detailed and interesting plan about trying to bring attention to Campaign Finance reform this issue that makes everybodys eyes glaze over. So did you judge him as sane . Of the right mind . Motivated by the right things . Did you have any doubts . Well doug himself said look no sane person would do what im doing. So maybe theres a Little Something off there, but otherwise, yeah he was completely sane. You know he held the same job for 11 years, hes raised a beautiful little 12yearold girl hes got a wife and a house and a car. Everything about him is just sort of ho hum normal mailman life except for this big, brazen sort of paul revere pt barnum idea of trying to arrest the news cycle and direct attention to something he feels incredibly passionate about. Hes certainly not alone on the issue. Its about his means that will come under scrutiny. Lets put up the tweet you put up as it was going on that got our attention. This is one of the craziest stories ive ever done. I so hope nobody gets hurt. Its that second sentence that winds up making it a different kind of story. Did you have any concerns about whether or not he was telling you the truth . That thats what it was and he didnt have some darker motivations about landing there . Maybe early on but once i got to know doug his plan was entirely designed to be transparent. He was Live Streaming the entire thing from his gyrocopter. He launched from gettysburg, p. A. Which is about an hour and a half flight time. On the way in he alerted the media to his flight plan and to his website, the democracyclub. Org which explains all about his thoughts of how he can reform Campaign Finance. He alerted the authorities. And beyond that the authorities investigated him about a year ago. The secret service interviewed him twice and interviewed a colleague of his with whom hed shared his ideas for the plan. So we were comfortable with the idea that doug had been on the radar of the secret service. And comfortable, again, with the idea that this guy everything in his plan was intended to be transparent and nonharmful. And truly an act of civil disobedience. He knew he might get shot down. Thats where that tweet came from. I thought i was super surprised to see him so easily without resistant do what he did. They interviewed him before and he was transparent, and how did he successfully land in such a sensitive space . Do you have any explanation . Your guess is as good as mine. I think because the aircraft is so small and light, 250 pounds basically a lawn chair with a propeller, you know it seems like from what i read he just slipped under the radar. 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Lets begin our coverage with brian young who is tracking the details for us. This is a big shift with the whole program under review. Good morning, poppy. A lot of questions about this case and in fact we talked about this just yesterday, the idea Roberts Bates donated so much five cars and money to the reelection campaign, and the training hours are what are under question right now, and tulsa world are reporting that some supervisors were told to falsify the Training Records for bates, and they report there were supervisors reassigned after refusing to sign the training documents and the report does not say who asked the supervisors to falsify the records and the falsified records gives bates for trailed training he never completed, and records show in the last seven years, bates have taken over a variety of courses, weapons training and rock river training. This has been detailed in the report, but when you watch the video and shoet fact that he said taser, taser, and instead reached for a gun, the training questions were brought up by the attorney and now this report this entire program is being put into question. And the question now becomes, okay if the whole program is under review who is doing that review. In the interest of balance here we invited the tulsa Sheriffs Office to come on this morning and they decline, and they call the report unsubstantiated and deceptive, and we had bates attorney on the show and he cited his extensive education on the show. And we have reporters for tulsa world, they broke the story, and here is what they say. Would you think the Sheriffs Office if in fact there has been no pressure applied and no falsification of records, they would be forthcoming with these documents and we hope they are and we asked for them and they said they dont believe there are hundreds of records, and there are hundreds of hours that could have been falsified, and supervisors were disciplined because they were not signing off on Training Records. Was that recently or was that back when he was originally trying to get on as a deputy . It was back when he was trying to get on as a deputy. He had already been accepted in the program and then there was the falsification of the field Training Records initially and then the handgun qualification records, as we understand and it was back several years ago, and every since then he was named reserve deputy of the year in 2011 and every since then he has been going on 100 or so undercover operations. Do you know why he was reserve deputy of the year did he do anything exemplary or anything like that . We dont know that but at that time he had given the undercover unit five automobiles, donated those to the unit as well as surveillance equipment. In terms of motivation here your sources on this point, was this about trying to get the sheriffs pal certified to do what he wanted . What do you think was going on here . That has been the allegation since they brought us his name originally this was just somebody the sheriff called him a longtime friend that he took on fishing trips and somebody the sheriff liked and they wanted him to be able to do what he wanted to do. And also we are following is did the whousz cave on the white house cave on the iran nuclear bill. Reporter we have heard for weeks we heard the white house issue strong language, and now they are saying this is something we can sign and the reaction was what happened . They said look, it was the white house was never going to be getting enough votes on its side to beat a veto override and the bill was changed so as to get more democrats onboard, and the white house is framing it as its not an up or down vote simply on the iran deal anymore and its a vote on whether or not to remove sanctions that Congress Imposed anyway and where it gets into a gray area is you could say couldnt you see this sanctions vote as aeeffectively an up or down vote on the iran deal. Iran is seeing that way and they put out information saying theres not going to be any deal unless all sanctions are removed and they are putting out the rescissions to the deal as it stands that are going to be unacceptable to the west. Chris . This is one big issue that whoever the next president is is going to have to deal with and on the republican side you have many names, and on the democrat side you have only one, right . Wrong. Lincoln chafee is weighing a run for president. Good to have you with us governor. Thank you for having me on the show. Do you think you can beat Hillary Clinton and why . I have been in 12 elections in my career over 30 years, and i have won 10 of the 12 but you always get in expecting to win, and elections should be about choices, and there should be choices on the democrat side also. You went out on a limb supporting president obama when he was running for reelection, and you supported him as a republican no as an independent. So a lot of people are looking at Hillary Clinton as a third term for president obama, and you by exploring a run are not so indetectively saying no no no she does not represent the third term here. Why not . Dont forget the reason probably the biggest reason that senator obama at the time defeated Hillary Clinton in 08 was because of the iraq war vote and that was the issue, and thats my big issue here because we are dealing with ramifications in a huge mistake that senator clinton made which i did not make, and we live with it today, and the news today in ramadi with isis its a huge and bad decision, and i dont consider it a third term with president obama at all. Very difficult. You were in boarding school with jeb bush is that right . Yes. Do you believe he would be a better president than Hillary Clinton . I am running my own race on the democratic side and i will let the republicans sort out their side. Nobody has declared but hillary on the democratic side and the other folks, bernie sanders, jim webb and nobody is taking on Hillary Clinton and nobody has gone out near as far as you have gone out to criticizer and you are saying the vote she made is disqualifying her. Yeah its not only that vote but her actions of secretary of state, and where were going what did she do wrong . Start with russia in the early days they tried to restart with russia and she presented the russia Prime Minister with the restart button and they got the russian word wrong, and instead they said this means over charge and it was an insult. The restart was the wrong right way . Right, but you have to get the word right. Look what is happening with russia and ukraine, and it all could have started with the diplomatic mistake, getting the word wrong. And she referred to the elected leader of venezuela, hugo chavez as a dictator and that sets back the relations with an important country, an oilrich country, and its a succession of errors. Sounds like you have been looking for specific examples. What about the now, and the emails, and the funds for the clinton Global Initiative, and what level of concern is this to you . Especially the funds come into the clinton funds from other countries, while she is secretary of state. Huge amounts of money coming from Foreign Countries into the clinton fund while she is secretary of state. Did they change the rules while she was secretary and then afterwards start accepting from other countries and not. I dont know when they changed the rules, john. Important stuff to know but if you are going to go after Hillary Clinton on the basis of painting a character picture, then you have to be right about it because thats a pretty big hammer to swing, especially if you say i have the better ideas, you have to pick a tack either you are going after her and saying she is not good enough but you have to say at some point why you are better . Yes, and i feel strongly my record as mayor and governor and United States senator is open to scrutiny and i have a strong record of standing up for the people and being a peace maker with unions, and dealing with the Foreign Relations committee, and look for a new direction and fresh ideas for america, i firmly believe, for our children and grandchildren. You have a unique perspective, you were a republican and an independent, and now a democrat. Who is the most to blame . Who needs to do more to correct their actions and fix this problem . President bush the second he really set this country back i believe. First the tax cuts that gave us the depression, and then the war in iraq and a record of saying one thing as a candidate and doing something else, and that was the culture of prau sraeur indication. One of the reasons i left was to take a surplus, and turn it into saving. What you are going to hear from your adversaries, the biggest sin in politics that there is this man did not go from one party to another, he changed twice. They are going to bang you over the head with that all day, and this guy doesnt know where he is and we need leadership direct and secure. The flaw in that argument is i have a 30year record to look at, and when they look at that 30year record they will see consistency, on the fiscal responsibility and environment and keeping us out of quagmires, and a number of issues rocksolid consistency. You are saying a reverse Ronald Reagan i did not leave the Democratic Party the Democratic Party left me . Yeah, no room for liberal republicans. Thats what is happening, the primary, the liberal republicans. You think the dnc will let you have a fair shot . I do. I do. Elections are about choices. You think you can raise the money . America loves the underdog. No doubt i am an underdog. I dont think i will raise 1 billion. Thank you so much for being with us. Thank you. This morning Aaron Hernandez is behind bars where he will be for the rest of his life. The former nfl star showed a little emotion, not much, but there was a whole lot of drama in the courtroom as the jury con convicted him of firstdegree murder murder and he was sentenced to life without patrol. Susan, you were in the courtroom. Reporter it was quite a day, john yes. As he heard the words guilty of firstdegree murder Aaron Hernandez, as you said showed very little emotion except for rubbing his chin something that we would see him do during the trial, during very tense moments, but he did turn immediately and look at his mother and fiance who were weeping openly in court, and then across the aisle, the mother of his victim oden lloyd, who was also crying sitting next to oden lloyds girlfriend they were crying tears of relief and, of course what we also learned from a source is that he apparently is denying his guilt, and a source telling me that as he was leaving the courthouse and was on his way to prison he told his jailers, i didnt do it. They got it wrong. And obviously the jury in this case disagreeing with that. He will be spending the rest of his life in prison without the possibility of parole and is staying for now in a prison is that a stones throw away from where he was once a rising star for the new England Patriots. Poppy . I will take it, susan. Two active members of the National Guard arrested for trying to sell guns am yo and body armour. Officials say they were so brazen they wore their Army Uniforms while conducting the deal. Tough to believe. These two soldiers worked at a National Armed army and they tried to sell guns and thousands of stolen military ammunition to drug cartels. They say the two were caught in a sting that was run by the atf. Both men are charged with running firearms without a license and that carries a prison sentence for five years, and reyes is charged with transporting firearms unlicensed, and among the arsenal they sold was at least seven guns including an ar15 rifle and ak47 rifle, and thousands of ammunition stolen from the armory and the soldiers showed up in military uniforms and sold an ar15 rifle for 2,000. Thank you, evan. Appreciate it. 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During those days we know you were confident about the case all through, but did it give you pause for concern . I remained confident throughout the deliberations. I think as you get further into it is the natural tendency to feel some concern. We felt confident. We didnt think the long deliberation was negative. In fact on monday and tuesday, there were no juror questions at all and they deliberated all day and i thought that was a good sign. Were you surprised they had any questions . Well no because jurors often have questions and they seem to come in the beginning of the case because theres a lot of evidence to go over and numerous exhibits and the trial was 2 1 2 months. Do you think Aaron Hernandez pulled the trigger or do you think he was just there . I think he was the leader if you will of the group. There was strong evidence that he pulled the trigger. We argued that. There was evidence at the scene and evidence before and after the murder so we are confident he was the shooter, but in another scenario he was part of the venture and shared the intent of the other two confederates confederates. If he did not pull the trigger, it wouldnt change your opinion for his responsibility of the crime . It would not, but thats something the jury duheliberates on. If the Death Penalty were available under your state law would you have asked for it . No. Because . Well i mean its a hypothetical question and its not something i had given any thought to because i would not ask for the Death Penalty in this case. But is that a statement about how bad you think it was or is that about how you feel about the Death Penalty in general . In general the Death Penalty, in general, but it was a very serious and violent outrageous crime with no justification whatsoever and the Death Penalty was not an issue in the case and hypothetically i would not have pursued it but that was a decision that would have been made before i bimecome District Attorney. He has other charges. Lets stick with the criminal stuff. Do you believe there is a very good case to be made that Aaron Hernandez is responsible for one way or another for other murders as well . Other uncharged murders . Yes, sir. I wouldnt know that. Do you think he is were focusing on the cases you are going to make how confident are you in those . Well the remaining charges in our case are part and parcel of the homicide they are lesser charges, and thats the least of his concern right now, and he has the double homicide coming up in boston next month and i wish the suffolk County District attorneys luck. Do you believe they have a solid case there as well . I dont know the particulars of it. I wouldnt comment on that other than to say they have indicted him for the two murders and they are proceeding along with the prosecution. The reason i ask, how can a guy with everything in life go to making the worst choices ever . I dont know him. I dont know what is inside of him, but to say he had it all, he may have had a lot of money but that doesnt mean personally he had it all. His behavior in this case was outrageous. He is accused of premedicated brutal murders in boston, and theres other incidents that have been brought up in the proceedings, so to say he had it all, apparently he didnt have it all. Money doesnt give you it all. Money doesnt give you character, but when you see people mixed up in this type of gangster activity this guy had every reason to take another path. Thank you for joining us. Please have a final word. Well i am just very happy for the victims family and for our office and for the citizens in general that he was held accountable for the brutal murder and the fact he was a professional athlete, it meant nothing in the end just the way it should have been. Justice was served blind under the law. Thank you for being on new day. My pleasure. Thank you. More americans than ever are on board with legalizing marijuana in this case. Why the surge . We are talking about dr. Gupta and getting a fascinating look at his new documentary. And Anthony Bourdain parts unknown, and why is he in a hot tub . We will talk about his Favorite Foods and episodes and his favorite hot tub. The pursuit of healthier. It begins from the second were born. After all, healthier doesnt happen all by itself. It needs to be earned. Every day. From the smallest detail to the boldest leap. Healthier means using wellness to keep away illness. Knowing a prescription is way more than the pills. 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You heard from her and how it is helping her, and you spend time with the veteran who is suffering about ptsd and you call this reporting from the frontlines of a battle. Who is winning . I think for the first time you are starting to see the signs of a revolution when it comes to medicinal marijuana. Its a heavily sigma advertised substance, and its basically its preordained for having no medicinal use, and there are more studies that have been done in the last 12 months than in the previous 12 years. The scientist and the people that wanted to study this could not get it done for a long time. Is it because they are responding to numbers like this this pew study showing 77 of people now think marijuana has a legitimate medical use, and that is a change. What is driving it . There is data that exists on this from other countries from around the world. I fell into the trap sometime ago, and i looked at the evidence and didnt find it compelling but when you look at most things and you dig deeper and you realize that part of the reason the United States data didnt look good because the studies getting approved they were designed to look for harm, and israel they have been doing research for decades on this and allowing patients to use marijuana in hospitals as part of trials and part of the therapy now, and you start to see a different picture that emerges. So there is data out there, and people can dismiss a lot of the patience of malingerers, trying to get high and part is true, but there are legitimate patients that this benefits them. People can see all the states where medical marijuana is now legal. And you are talking about 23 states across this country. Lets talk about sean. This is probably the most moving part of the documentary, for me sean a veteran suffering from ptsd and i was shocked to find out what smoking marijuana helps him with in terms of his dreams and his concentration. Just a quick background. Sean was a wall Street Investment banker, and he was in panama and had significant post traumatic cyst tuplsymptoms when he came back, and he nearly killed himself because he could not get relief, and i met sean and he was almost one of those people and this offers a significant improvement of his symptoms, and suppressing dream recall, and very important when it comes to post Traumatic Stress and ignoring the past and focusing on the present and that could help the anxiety, and we know what it does in the brain, the part of the brain that deals with empathy and emotion and decision making. Its fascinating to see it working and also the studies and why it works. One of the questions chris and i had, does it matter what kind of marijuana is being smoked . And for you, this personal journey, what has been the Biggest Surprise to you . On the first point it absolutely matters the different strains and doses, just like any other medication. There are certain things that will work better we know for children with epilepsy, and a high cbd, and oil seems to work better for those children and thats part of a study ongoing right now as well. And i think the personal journey, poppy, i think we all get presented all sorts of data all the time and its easy to look at the data and do a little digging and accept that data for what it is and when you start to dig deeper and you say what drove the data in the first place, what were the questions being asked, and what was the harm we could find as opposed to what was the benefit, and you can extrapolate that in all aspects of the life, and now senators who are proposing legislation, and its a remarkable story and its one that reflects in many ways the United States and its overall drug policy. If you want to see what the president has to say about it sanjay posed that question to him, and 9 00 eastern, sunday night, only here on cnn. Anthony bourdain is joining us and talking about his favorite episodes. His. What do you think they are . He has a new season rolling out as well, and he wants to know what some of you have liked best about his work. 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And then building the first Legal Marijuana empire, and its part of cnn series high profits. Take a look. They throw out condoms every year. Its like a legit adult party in the middle of downtown. I think our float will be received pretty well. I found it i found it look at this. Nice. The girls are on their way. The mayor is able to lift our open container restrictions so for thisfest they dont have a liquor license, but the mayor does lift it because it would be a nightmare if he didnt. What we want to do with any kind of drug is reduce the number of people using it. Some people are responsible, and a lot of people are irresponsible. Alcohol is our best example, and we have 11,000 People Killed every year by drunk drivers. We shouldnt accept that. Thats what happens when you have a drug that is readily available, and relatively cheap, i dont want that for the other drugs. 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It was so difficult, and it took years and years and years to set up to be able to get in there and to be able to do it reasonably safely and the level of difficulty was unlike any other show a level of uncertainty, and we worked really hard on it and came back with a show i am proud of. Complex and a big story, and took a lot to do and i am proud of the work we did. I would imagine its almost like picking amongst your children and each have a memory like the food that you love and the people and the stories they share with you. We meet a lot of people and hear a lot of stories that are very moving confusing, upsetting, and inspiring. Complicated . Complicated. We try really hard to tell the story in a compelling and creative way, and i guess the shows that i am most proud of are the ones that i feel that using the strange and terrible powers of television we were able to put together a compelling story. By the way, there is tonys list. That is a whole smattering of choices. You brought up the libya show. What did you like about that . I was there in what turned out to be a tremendous window of hope and optimism and occasional goodwill. I met a lot of Extraordinary People and it was an uncertain show and the security situation was deteriorating rapidly, but i allowed myself as i think many people did at the time to feel hopeful for the country and since that time a lot of the people that were on the show are no longer with us. Because they got caught up in the violence . Or perpetrated themselves. A very complicated story, and even more complicated that i thought in retrospect but it was a hopeful time. When we set out on the project in dell seugstkel television you set out with one goal and often these things take on a life of their own. How far apart are those two visions a reality . I love being proven wrong, and i love to go into a place and i dont mind looking like a fool on television, and i like to think its going to be one way and it is turned upside down, and sometimes not knowing what to think of the place. Iran i think it was the split, the dichotomy between what we see in the Foreign Policy and what it is like walking the streets of tehran. Very hard to reconcile. Thats what makes it so great to watch. And theres such a through line between what cnn does and what tony does and when you are on scene on location nothing brings home the experience for you, and you get to share a meal and everybody winds up being more clear. You boiled it down to ten of your favorite shows. We would like to see all of them again, but you cant. You have to choose. Vote for the episode you want to see air before the season of parts unknown premiers. You can watch both of those episodes on cnn. Thank you so much. 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