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Pipe bombs around the building and shoot people as they fled. The 20yearold came to the fbis attention several months ago for alarming social media posts, talking about violent jihad. The fbi says cornell told an informant he had contacts overseas he had aligned himself with isis and believed lawmakers were his enemy. A criminal complaint says cornell did not think he would receive authorization to conduct a terrorist attack in the United States. But wanted to wage jihad on his own, writing, i believe we should meet up and make our own group in alliance with the Islamic State here and plan operations ourselves. He researched the targeted government buildings and the construction of pipe bombs. Wednesday, cornell purchased two m15s and 600 rounds of ammunition. From this gun store in cincinnati. Before fbi agents arrested him in the parking lot. Wkrc obtained this image of his arrest from a customer inside a nearby store. The Gun Store Owner, who had been cooperating with authorities, described cornells demeanor. There wasnt really anything about him that would have suggested he was involved in Something Like this. His parents, devastated and in shock. Im just heartbroken. I want to give him a big hug and bring him home. Because he aint out to hurt nobody. He may have lost his way somewhere in there, but i believe he was really vulnerable and i believe he was coerced in a lot of ways. John cornell says his son recently took up an interest in islam. But had never mentioned isis. He explained the peaceful side of islam to me and he never showed any, any signs of any, any kind of violence or anything. I mean quiet, shy, good kid. The informant in this case had flagged cornell for the authorities back in the fall noting twitter activity. The informant in this case somebody who is working to improve his own legal standing. Cornell will head to Court Tomorrow for a detention hearing, hell be back in Court Next Week for a Pretrial Hearing. So the way this sets up is that the picture of this young man now is very troubling. But is it the whole picture . The concern was a parislike attack just averted . Or is this Something Different . Lets bring in former fbi assistant director tom fuentes and president of 4 dpac, jim arkedis. What do they have on this guy . To start with the social media, and he kept indicating in a number of subsequent meetings with later with an informant that he intended to carry out an attack if he possibly could. And what is the bar, tom . Help people understand the situation. When do you go from just talk to what a authorities have to accept as actionable intelligence . Well the question is. Was he on his own, did he want to do this how much help did the fbi give him in furthering his interest in doing this. When he finally purchases the weapons. You know that will come out in the, in the subsequent evidence of whether or not he was entrapped, he was pushed into this. But normally i can tell you the fbi is so busy these days they dont really go out of their way to try to entrap somebody. They have enough people whether its him or others that express an interest to do harm and they cant take it lightly. If a person acquires the weapons, weve seen how little it takes for someone to do something. No matter how old they are or no matter how inexperienced. So it feels like a legit bust to you, tom . I would guess so yes. Based on what you know. Whats the other side . Weve been hearing from his parents, lets play sound from his father about why he believes his son the parents had no idea any of this was going on. Although the young man had all of this activity online. Heres what he said about why he doesnt think his son was serious. Hes never been well hes been out of the state of ohio a couple of times when he was younger and hes a big mommas boy. His best friend is this kitty cat named mikey. I cant believe, this is just like total shock. All right. The kittycat named mikey, jim arkedis, is not instructive. He also said he didnt have access to a car, he didnt have a drivers license, he was living very close to his parents, very close to him. Hes painting a picture of this 20yearold, not really being a 20yearold. But theres no known mental or emotional diagnosis on the kid what is your skepticism about whether or not the 20yearold is what he presents. Im calling him a kid, but at that age, a man can be very dangerous. Look we live in a situation where theres a lot of pressure on Law Enforcement agencies to produce results, the only time we hear talk about the fbi or c. I. A. Is when one of these guys gets through, right . This may be a case lets talk about how to execute a successful terrorism attack. Its a marriage of capabilities and intentions, sure he had the intentions but did he have the capability . Probably not. Rule number one, if youre going to conduct a successful terrorist attack is not to put it on twitter. Above and beyond that, we have a situation where okay they do the bust they talked about the possibilities of entrapment thats all fine. And then we have fbi sources coming out and saying dont worry, the public was never in danger anyway. My skepticism evolves from a position of if the public was never in danger anyway and the fbi had undercover agents involved with this guy from the getgo why are we hearing about it . Why are we talking about it on cnn . Heres other side of it tom, what have we seen time and again in this country, somebody who isnt taken seriously, just seen as a misfit who may have a problem, but not really dealt with. Parents are somewhat oblivious, they get their hands on a weapon and all of a sudden a lot of people are dead. How do you balance these two things tom . Thats exactly right. When that happens, what you just described, its well, they dropped the ball. This guy came up on their radar, or this group of people came up on their radar, theyre not going to be able to take somebody like this and say he doesnt really mean it hes just some goofy kid, were not going to worry about him. And then something happens and they drop the ball. I think thats the problem. Weve seen this happen so many times where the parents dont have a clue we saw it with the young kids that left many of the communities, the somali communities in the u. S. And went back to somalia and their parents had no clue. They went to the fbi and said my son just disappeared. Do you know what happened. So parents are often the last to know if they have somebody thats up to no good. But for the bureau they cant follow people around for the rest of their lives. Just in case. Right. And jim, lets take the fbi case at face value for right now. If theres a time to be hairtrigger it is now. What is the insight into the ability of bad guy groups like isis reaching out through social media and getting into the impressionable mind maybe the deficient mind of younger people who could become capable. Just like this guy . Well its a question of casting a wide net. Youre going to have people all throughout the country, all throughout the world who are susceptible to radicalization. And if isis is able to have cast a wide net, broadcast its message, sure youre going to get impressionable guys who like this kids father said. He never left the state of ohio he didnt have access to a car. It speaks to a relatively sheltered individual. And so if theyre looking to identify themselves if somebody is looking to define themselves especially in the age of social media. And you could put something on twitter or facebook and all of a sudden youre important, youre something. And people are paying attention to you. And the fbi is coming after you. Then all of a sudden youre a thing and so thats kind of the process that we might be dealing with here. As we deal with this cultural evolution, tom, let me put this last question to you. The parents, pointing the finger at the fbi, you gave him the money, you entrapped him, we didnt know anything. Theyre pointing the finger at the fbi. What about pointing the finger back at them. This kid is on social media going through his own evolution towards islam, his understanding of it even by their own reckoning was not mainstream. What about the parents . What about the level of awareness . How much blame and responsibility is there in. Thats a good question chris. When somebody is 18 years old and you know they should be pretty much more independent. He could have gone away kids that age but he didnt. But theyre not going to babysit him 24 7. And i think this happens over and over. That kids get on the internet they get radicalized and the parents just dont track them closely enough to even know that thats happened. The awareness of whats going on with social media. A 20yearold is a different animal than a 12yearold, but it just shows everything going into awareness, from Law Enforcement to parents, obviously there are changes that are needed. Tom fuentes, thank you very much and jim arkedis. This morning belgian prosecutors say theyve arrested a man linked to the partner of Amedy Coulibaly. The terrorist who killed four people in the Kosher Grocery store. Last friday according to a french newspaper. Security services identified a fourth suspect. Theyre identifying a fourth suspect today. And were seeing new Surveillance Video from inside the besieged market. You can see the hostages there grouping together. All of this as two of the murdered cartoonists, Charlie Hebdo columnist and a Police Officer are laid to rest. John berman joins us live from paris as he has been all week. John every single day, it seems theres more than comes out in this investigation. Whats the latest . Yeah. More leads from more locations, alisyn. Truly fascinating. The latest comes from belgium. An arrest in the town of charlevoix where this man has been arrested on weapons charges. Why . The guy turned himself in apparently had bought a car from the girlfriend of Amedy Coulibaly, Hayat Boumeddiene, the woman now on the run in syria. They bought a car from her, they searched this guys apartment, what did they find . They found documents that link this man to some weapons owned by Amedy Coulibaly. He is now being held this suspect in belgium, on weapons charges. It shows you how big the web of this investigation is growing. You have an arrest in belgium. A man being held in bulgaria. A girlfriend on the run in syria. And you have this claim in yemen of responsibility for being behind the whole attack. A huge investigation. Chilling surveillance images from inside the kosher market in paris, captured terrorists Amedy Coulibaly. His threehour siege that killed four people. Coulibaly can be seen dressed in jeans and a tshirt, wearing what appears to be a bulletproof vest. In the aisle, a child abandoned stroller lying on the floor, two people he gunned down when he first burst in. The body closest to the camera believed to be that of an employee johan cohen. He reportedly grabbed one of coulibalys guns, but it jammed he was shot to death. More than an hour into the standoff coulibaly ordered some hostages to disable security cameras in the building. I think this person was trained, he was somewhat sophisticated. As the Investigation Continues into how he obtained weapons, a french newspaper acquired a copy of a loan application. Coulibaly borrowed around 7,000 back in december. Cnn has not independently confirmed the authenticity of these documents. This as another french newspaper, la parisienne claim french authorities search for accomplice to coulibaly. Shooting and wounding a jogger south of the park last week. The ammunition used in the attack was the same as that used in one of coulibalys guns. The sort of lone wolf gets more difficult for Law Enforcement to follow. Theyre spread out, so many more of them to follow. Since the terror last week more than 50 judicial proceedings have been opened in france for inciting terrorism and racist or antisemitic comments or actions. Many proceedings involve graffiti on mosques. This country remains on high alert as the funerals for the victims killed in the attacks continue. We heard just moments ago from u. S. Secretary of state, john kerry, who is in bulgaria right now, he is traveling here to paris later today. The secretary of state says he is coming to this country to give the people of france what he calls, a big hug, after last weeks attack or i suppose in french that would be a grande embrasse. The secretary of state does speak Perfect French and i think he will be welcomed here by the parisians. We hear that they are looking forward to his visit, even if they think it is several days late. Good morning to you at home. Topping our headlines, four top officials in the secret service are being reassigned in a Major Management shakeup. The agencys acting director says change is necessary following a series of embarrassing security lapses last summer. Lets get the latest from our Michelle Kosinski live in the white house with details. Director clancy said this was coming. Ever since the nowinfamous white house fence jumper incident in september exposed an array of deeprooted problems at the secret service, weve seen the need for change here. The director said that a french perspective is needed. The question has been out there, who would be held accountable. The director did lose her job and now we see the of the topranking secret service employees, the assistant directors of investigations protection Public Public affairs and technology reassigned not fired, but reassigned. And a fifth person has retired. So after the series of Security Breaches and embarrassments the acting director said this was devastating. And the independent panels review after the fencejumper incident voeed that the agency was quote starved for leadership. That there was low morale, a chronic lack of training and short staffing also an unlocked front door at the white house. The panel recommended that the fence outside the white house be four feet taller but so far, we havent seen a change there. Michaela . Well wait to see who is appointed to those new positions, Michelle Kosinski with the latest. Indonesian divers searching for bodies in the fuselage of airasia flight 8501. A military jet found the wreckage two miles from where the tail of the aircraft was discovered. Investigators are examining the contents of the black box recorders, which could reveal why the plane went down killing all 162 people aboard. Pope francis has arrived in philippines for a fiveday visit, he received a lively welcome from more than 1,000 children gathered to perform a traditional dance. His visit has been declared a National Holiday in the philippines, most businesses and roads in manila closed down. Pope francis says his visit is designed to add momentum to the growth of catholocism in asia. Yosemites el capitan has been scaled many times before but not quite like this. Two americans are the first to freeclimb el caps granite wall. Freeclimb means they only used their hands and feet to climb. It took them 19 days to reach the peak. Only 3,000 feet up. They got a lot of achecolades, but probably none better than this president obama tweeting his congratulations, saying you remind us that anything is possible. They tried before they failed there were injuries, failed attempts, but they did it this time. It does look like one of them has a hangnail though. He has a bandaid on one of his fingers. Thats the injury he got after this incredible climb. Apparently at night they would file down their fingertips. Imagine the parents, the families of those guys waiting for this to happen. Oh god. Its so nervewracking were so leap for them and proud of them. Congratulations, glad its over. Well it has been a bitterly cold start to january for much of the country. But milder temperatures we hear, are on the way. Meteorologist, lets see, chad myers is keeping track of all of this. What is the myers mile . It will be 80 in havana. It just depends on where youre going. A nice day in puerto rico. But i know you werent impressed, chris, yesterday, but youre ten degrees warmer than yesterday. But alpena almost 30 degrees warmer and chicago, it feels like a heat wave to 45 eventually. St. Louis, 45. Even minneapolis, above freezing for the first time in two weeks. First time above 32 morning or night, for the first time in two solid weeks. So yes, here we go. D. C. Youre at 43. That is exactly normal. Boston new york 36 for today. Christopher charles, i know you werent impressed yesterday. But hey, you know what, you get what you get and you dont pitch a fit. Thats what they say in kindergarten kindergarten. Were going to be all the way into the 40s by sunday. A cold front keeps you cool for the rest of the weekend. For your saturday. But look at that. 46 for your little jog up on the east side Christopher Charles parkway there. Were going to give you. Im sensing a little tune coming from you, chad everett. Is that your middle names. Is charles your middle name . Yes, Christopher Charles cuomo. Ccc. Chad everett myers, thats the reference. Hes obviously getting heat, ill call it the bama test when my dog refuses to leave the house when im taking him out in the morning because its too cold thats not warm. And so far youre failing the test everett. Battling the middle names. We knew. Mark it down. Hypocrits, that is the accusations against several countries that came out in support of free speech following the paris massacres, only to then suppress free speech when they got home were digging deeper. Plus a nigerian town wiped off the map. Boko haram behind it. Nigeria is apparently incapable of stopping the group. Does the world care less about nigeria than other terror hotbeds . Turn around every now and then i get a little bit hungry and theres nothing good around turn around, barry i finally found the right snack [ female announcer ] fiber one. People with type 2 diabetes come from all walks of life. 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Tomorrow in saudi arabia a blogger will be publicly flogged for the second time in two weeks, hes scheduled to be publicly flogged every single friday for the next five months. For the crime of having a blog that does things like report and poke fun at saudi arabia for its ban on valentines day. How do you explain whats going on in saudi arabia . Well this is tremendous hypocrisy. Saudi arabia was one of the first arab countries to come out and condemn the attacks against Charlie Hebdo. But when it comes to its own population it refuses to allow even a modicum of free speech. A young blogger, father of three, had a website called liberal saudi network. It often had the same kind of religious sarcasm, very mild though. He poked the religious police in saudi arabia for patrolling candy stores and flower shops. Before valentines day, which is considered an infidel celebration in saudi arabia or at least by the government. People celebrate it anyway. And he was, he also on his website said that jews and muslims and christians and people of other faiths are all equals as human beings. And for his boldness over very basic statements he has been sentenced to 1,000 lashes a tenyear prison sentence and a quarter of a Million Dollar fine. And the United States has condemned this and called for the brutal punishment to be abdicated. But the saudis take him out from his cell every friday to a Public Square so his punishment can be viewed widely by the saudi people. At one time he was going to be eligible for the death penalty, but they backed off from that. However, his wife today, says that she has spoken to him, hes in a lot of pain as you would imagine and that he is deteriorating. She doesnt know that he will survive actually 1 a,000 lashes. Is this an anomaly or does saudi arabia routinely punish writers and bloggers like this . Its very repressive when it comes to anyone who veers from the basic saudi doctrine. And wahabi islam is the most conservative the most fundamentalist of all the islamic sects, its no accident that the al qaeda operatives of Osama Bin Laden grew out of the wahabi fundamental view of the world and islams unique role in human history. Lets move on to turkey. Which as you know is often held up as the this paragon of secularism. Whats going on with freedom of speech there . There again, you saw the Prime Minister of turkey show up in paris and march alongside all the world leaders. And yet at home. A court yesterday banned the publication of any of the Charlie Hebdo cartoons that were that were in the first issue since the attack. On any turkish website. There was a police raid as well on a paper that was going to publish versions of the cartoons. The paper decided to put them inside and were eventually allowed to do that. But there is you know the most popular tweeting trend in turkey yesterday was Charlie Hebdo should not be distributed in my country. And you see this real tension between the condemnation of violence and the support of free press. And its not just since Charlie Hebdo, many journalists in turkey have been jailed. So what should the u. S. Do about its socalled allies in this regard . Well this is a fundamental question in some ways the United States needs both turkey and saudi arabia for a lot of different reasons. Including the fight against extremists. Turkey borders syria and iraq and of course is taken in hundreds of thousands of turkish Syrian Refugees it is critical as a nato ally. On a lot of different fronts saudi arabia because of its oil. Weve always looked the other way. This is a conundrum. But its certainly clear that enough has not been said about this issue, whether its in washington or paris. We appreciate you speaking out about it robin wright her book the islamists are coming. Can you find it online. Chris . New images of the carnage left behind by boko haram in Northern Nigeria. The problem is no one is stepping in to stop it. Why isnt the terror group a higher priority . How did the terrorists in the paris attack fund the plot . How did they get the cash . Were going to discuss this next. Introducing data stash. Now at tmobile, all your unused data rolls forward to the next month. Well even get you started with 10 gigabytes of free 4g lte data. Data stash. Only from tmobile. Welcome back its just 6 30 in the morning, i know youre running around this is worth a moment. Were seeing with a nigeria and frankly the world has failed to stop in nigeria in the form of boko haram. Amnesty International Published this satellite image this shows a nigerian town thats been wiped off the map. Thousands of homes, businesses damaged or destroyed. And of course the fate of the families in many cases is just too horrible to describe. Nigerian military officials report another boko haram attack has been thwarted. But clearly the situation is out of control. Nic robertson is in Northern Nigeria for us. Nic, what is the situation . Weve been talking to soldiers here chris, and what they tell us is a very very worrying and troubling picture. They say theyre being outgunned, outmanned, outresourced by boko haram. When they get on the battlefield. Boko haram, they say, have big antiaircraft guns on the backs of trucks. Weapons that are accurate up to threequarters of a mile. The soldiers say they only have small, ak47s, weapons that are only useful up to a few hundred yards. They only have 60 bullets when they go into battle. Boko haram they say have many more bullets, they put down more firepower. The soldiers for the most part are forced to withdraw. The soldiers even have to pay for their own uniforms they dont have flack jackets and helmets in many cases, theyve been eaten from the battlefield by boko haram. Their morale is low, this is one of the reasons that boko haram is able to make the gains theyre making and that the military successes are really rather few and far between, chris. I know its a very dangerous situation on the ground thank you for being there, you have the military and the political. You have goodluck jonathan. Talking about france but not talking about whats happening in his own country and the International Community says not asking for help in the way that maybe he should be. Thank you for reporting, stay safe. Lets get over to mick. Heres a look at your headlines, an ohio man is behind bars this morning, for allegedly plotting an isisinspired attack on the u. S. Capital. Officials say this man, Christopher Lee cornell, was planning to detonate pipe bombs targeting lawmakers that he considered enemies. And then shoot people as they fled. 20yearold came to the fbis attention several months ago. For his alarming social media posts talking about violent jihad. Secretary of state john kerry arrives in paris today in the wake of the terror attacks in paris. He wants, he says to gig a big huff to all parisians when he gets there. In addition to paying his respects were learning that secretary kerry may meet with irans foreign minister in paris tomorrow for nuclear talks. A Washington Post journalist detained in iran for months has been indict and will stand trial. Now its not clear what jason rezian has been charged with. If tehran moves ahead with the prosecution, it could complicate president obamas efforts to forge a Nuclear Agreement with iran. Indianapolis colts linebacker josh mcnairy is facing a felony rape charge. A woman claims he sexually assaulted her after the two met in bar last month. The 26yearold is also charged with criminal confinement and misdemeanor battery resulting in bodily injury. The colts meet the new England Patriots in the afc championship game this weekend. The nfl says the matter clearly is under review. Those are your headlines. They pulled off the worst terror attack that france has seen in decades, where did the suspects get the money . Our terror analyst follows the money trail, straight ahead. Hey, jennar fuzz mike troober munny sling. Awwwwww scram im crust mike jubby roll bond chow gonna lean up an kiss bet. Peas charty get town down. [laughter] borf a liver tute face stummy wag pow pam shabeeps stella nerf berms. Saxanay nay . Badumps a head. Temexiss gurrin. Juppa left. Fluppa jown brone a brood. What . Catch up on what everyones talking about with the x1 entertainment operating system. Preloaded with the latest episodes of the top 100 shows. Only from xfinity. As investigators in france begin to unravel the plot behind the terror attack in paris questions remain about how the suspects were funded and why the kouachi brothers chose to launch the attack three years after traveling to yemen. I want to bring in one of our guests great at analyzing these things cnn terrorism analyst, Paul Cruickshank. So much to this investigation, its mystifying all of the areas when you see. Lets start here and talk about the fact that if we talk about the connection to yemen. This has been such a focus. This young man is said to have traveled there, we know that he received some 20,000 from al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. Talk about this. What more can we know and what can we glean from the information about getting the funding . The u. S. Believes that al qaeda in yemen gave this guy, cherif kouachi, 20,000 seed money for the plot against Charlie Hebdo magazine. He travels back to france and appears that the brothers eventually burn through that money. Because they have to borrow money from coulibaly. And coulibaly reveals this in the video, had to give the brothers some money so they could finish buying their weapons. Well get to coulibaly in a second. One thing we know he gleaned, cherif traveled under his brother, saids passport. Significance there . He was under control in france he had his passport confiscated. This was the only way he could get into yemen. Get into these camps. Lets talk about the brother, or not the brother, the accomplice but then again, we want to know accomplice a known person to the brothers. Amedy coulibaly. Who you mentioned before was borrowing his own money. Some 7,000 loan which couldnt have been a flag in france necessarily. But now we find out there was this loan. Talk about the significance here. He went to a bank in northern france and applied for a 6,000 euro loan. Perhaps to get money to give to the brothers so they could buy weapons. Perhaps to give it to his companion, Hayat Boumeddiene. So she could travel to syria. Its not clear at this point. Weve seen these kind of fraudulent loans in a bunch of other terrorism cases before. You know in new york in 2009 theres the plot in the subways, he suspect got 50,000 for credit card loans which he used to travel to pakistan where he got training. Theres a track record of these guys using the western Financial System against itself. Lets talk about the tracking we put together the map of the characters and the suspects and the people involved in this plot. The two named the kouachi brothers we know obviously, theyre going to be looking at all of their points of contacts. How do they determine . Somebody they knew somebody they might have been very close to and somebody that was a contact they were close to or could have been an accomplice. Its a giant spider web of connections theyre looking into. And this is very clear to the viewers, this is a network. This is not like the boston bombers, brothers working on their own. This is a network, a cell. A lot of these guys had connections dating back to 2005 when a lot of them wanted to fight in iraq to kill American Forces over there. One of these guys jamal begal, part of the al qaeda setoff in pre9 11 afghanistan, he went to bin ladens house in afghanistan where a senior al qaeda operative, abu zubaydah launched an attack. Weve seen the video of the two, Hayat Boumeddiene said to be the partner of Amedy Coulibaly. We saw video or a still image of her traveling with this man, what do we know about this individual . We know very little about him. The shadow figure at this point. Hes suspected of radicalism ties to this group. What were seeing is a whole bunch of people getting out of dodge in the weeks before this attack. Weve seen this guy joaquim, arrested in bulgaria trying to get into turkey. Some of these guys in syria already, the groups over there, whether its nusra or isis are going to roll out the red carpet for them. Al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is said to have said yes, we take full responsibility and we financed the kouachi brothers activities in paris. But they point to fact that coulibaly was merely a coincidence, they said we congratulate him, but he was merely a coincidence. What does that tell you . One of the hypothesis is that al qaeda in yemen recruits these two brothers these two brothers recruit their friend who theyve known for the last five years into this plot. So theres this coalition on the ground in france between an isis sympathizer, and people who were recruited into al qaeda in yemen. Back in the middle east isis and al qaeda in yemen, they cant stand each other right now. Think theres little chance that this was a formal joint operation between the two groups. But on the ground, the friends who have been connected in plots in the past all of these three guys were involved in a plot to break an algerian terrorist from jail in 2010 they cooperated again. They clearly felt they could trust this guy. They could get money from this guy. Because he was a hashish dealer. He was able to raise money that way as well. Paul cruickshank, and the concern is who he then inspired who is still around. And who they havent made contact with. All right, Paul Cruickshank great to have you here. Thanks for walking us through this. If were talking about terrorism, you got to talk about politics because they go hand in hand. And the republican president ial field already crowded for 2016. Is that a win for democracy . Or a sign that nobody is that strong . Well tell you whos in and out and guess how much it will cost to be president. In my world, wall isnt a street. Return on investment isnt the only return im looking forward to. For some every dollar is earned with sweat, sacrifice, courage. Which is why usaa is honored to help our members with everything from investing for retirement to saving for college. Our commitment to current and former military members and their families is without equal. Start investing with as little as fifty dollars. The first two weeks of 2015 producing a flurry of potential 2016 president ial candidates. Preparatory steps being taken by Chris Christie rand Paul Jeb Bush even mitt romney is mobilizing his donors. So to help us sort through the crowded ring weve called in the analyst and editor in chief of the daily beast, john avlon and sirius xm host and republican analyst margaret hoover. The hoovalon. Lets talk about the field that has gotten really ridiculously crowded in the past two weeks. You would think when one person gets in other was drop out. But thats not happening this time around. Cnn has put together a graphic. This is democrats and republicans lumped together. Look at the crowd. Its like a who concert. Who . Sergeant pepper. Whats going on margaret with the republican side . How come were seeing jeb and rand paul and mitt romney and Chris Christie and everybody throwing their hat in . The fact we have a crowded primary is not necessarily news the fact that its this crowded early, its much earlier than anybody anticipated, because jeb bush threw his hat in the ring that sped up everybody elses calendar. Chris christie had been thinking woe make a decision by the spring that timetable has moved up. As well as the other candidates. What does it mean that jeb saying or initiating whatever verb were using this time why didnt that make people not get in . What does it mean theyre getting in even though they got in. Does it mean they dont think hes strong . The reason that jeb getting in moved the calendar the rush for donors got serious. The candidates especially those on the center right said im not going to let him you know the calculation. Johns getting in its real . Lets back off. You know thats usually the way the calculus goes here. Other republican candidates think that jeb has vulnerabilities. Jeb is a bush. Jeb has supported things that the Republican Base have not supported. Common core Immigration Reform and so i think the reason other candidates think that they would, are throwing their hats in the ring because they think he has vulnerabilities, they would be better. Thats why mitt romney has called all of his advisers and is revamping the engines. And theres a yolo quality to all of this right now. You have a bunch of people running for president , its like hey, you only live once lets get in the pool. Maybe ill end up veep. Thats happening. Wheres the rnc in all of this alisyn . Arent they policing this . Well republicans philosophy is more the merrier. Lets have a robust debate. But rans but rans preeb is theyre trying to control the parameters. S did not going to be a circus of 20 debates like you had last time where it just goes on and on and on. Thats what the republicans you said laugh time. That was good for sirius xm. Isnt that the victory for democracy, having as many debates as possible . You get to vet your candidates . People know who you really are. I 100 agree with you, but the Republican Party, too much scrutiny. Too much time spent debating. They want to control the process as much as possible. The biggest concern is it gets out of control. That means more opportunities for candidates to screw up. The more debates the better. But this will be one crowded stage and the range is going to be wide. What about the second tier i guess if you call them those candidates Ben Carson Mike Huckabee do any of them cancel each other out. I dont know that Mike Huckabee is second tier. Youre right. Carly fiorina, thinking if you lose a senate seat you can run for president. Do they cancel each other out . Theyre pretending theyre running for president , but the consideration is to be for Vice President , thats a whole definitional second tier and then you get the folks, its just bucket list if not now, never. The nolo . No the yolo. I think youre trying to put stink on the former governor of new york by using his middle name elmer. Dont sleep on him. What do you think its going to cost . I keep hearing these numbers, you know that people keep saying its 1 billion. 1 billion . Thats what theyre saying now. Because ads are so expensive. Were trying so hard not to get into a money in politics conversation. I think nothing matters more now. I really do. Youre right, money sin credibly important. My husband and i absolutely disagree on the roll of money in politics i think if theres transparency and increasingly more and more transparency that money is okay. Democratic donors in the 2014 cycle far outspend republicans on hard dollars. And theres situational ethics in terms of the outrage, when its a liberal billionaire, they dont mind so much. That said there are 100 people in this country who drive elections and everyone who is running for president cant wait to sit down with them oneonone this he dont give a damn about the guy at dennys, the money is running the timing of the cycle. Dont kid yourselves. It is about the money, but all the super pac money that mitt romney had, didnt win him the election. The voters dollars work you cant buy elections. You feel vindicated by the loss of mitt romney last time . The integrity of america is absolutely intact and the fact a that we have very expensive elections doesnt undermine democracy. Thats the perfect note to end on. Margaret hoover john avlon, thanks so much. Voter rate going down money spent on elections, going up. We can debate it on sirius xm. Hey, i like it come on any time. The Terror Threat in this country the 20yearold ohio man apparently inspired by isis. Accused of planning an attack on the u. S. Capitol. I believe he was coerced in a lot of ways. The paris attacks were planned for years with orders coming directly from al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. You Better Believe that theres concern right now. Im going to shoot you. I will shoot you. Hands up officer Grant Morrison sobbing after taking the life of an unarmed man during a traffic stop last april. I thought he was going to pull a gun on me. This is new day, with chris cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and michaela pereira. Good morning, everyone. Were just peeling back the curtain a little and watching how we send people off. Yes. Like that thanks so much for joining us. We want to tell but the breaking news because an ohio man is in jail this morning for plotting to carry out an isisinspired attack on the u. S. Capital. Federal Authorities Say his plan to surround the building with bombs and then shoot people as they ran for their lives. This 20yearold was on the fbis radar for months because of social media posts he made talking about violent jihad. Weve got the latest for you now. Lets get to alexandra field live in cincinnati. What do we know . Hey there, chris, whatever he may have written online Christopher Cornells father says his son wasnt capable of pulling off an attack. He says his son barely left the house, he had only taken a recent interest in islam and he had never even mentioned isis. But when cornell turned up at this gun shop two miles from his house, authorities decided it was time to step in. An ohio man now in custody for allegedly plotting an isisinspired attack at the u. S. Capital. Officials say Christopher Lee cornell was planning to detonate pipe bombs around the building and shoot people as they fled. The 20yearold came to the fbis attention several months ago for alarming social media posts, talking about violent jihad. In an unundercover operation, the fbi said cornell told an informant he had contacts overseas he had aligned himself with isis and believed lawmakers were his enemy. A criminal complaint says cornell did not think he would receive authorization to conduct a terrorist attack in the United States. But wanted to wage jihad on his own, writing, i believe we should meet up and make our own group in alliance with the Islamic State here and plan operations ourselves. Is he researched the targeted government buildings and the construction of pipe bombs. Wednesday, cornell purchased two m15s and 600 rounds of ammunition from this gun store in cincinnati. Before fbi agents arrested him in the parking lot. Wkrc obtained this image of his arrest from a customer inside a nearby store. The Gun Store Owner, who had been cooperating with authorities, described cornells demeanor. There wasnt really anything about him that would have suggested he was involved in Something Like this. His parents, devastated and in shock. Im just heartbroken. I want to give him a big hug and bring him home. Because he aint out to hurt nobody. He may have lost his way somewhere in there, but i believe he was really vulnerable. And i believe he was coerced in a lot of ways. John cornell says that his son recently took up an interest in islam. But had never mentioned isis. He explained the peaceful side of islam to me you know and he never showed any, any signs of any kind of violence or anything. I mean quiet, shy, good kid. Cornell is facing some pretty serious charges, but Law Enforcement sources tell cnn that lawmakers were never in any real danger authorities were closely tracking his every move. Cornell will in Court Tomorrow for a detention hearing. A Pretrial Hearing will start next week. Chris . An important distinction, stand raxt Authorities Say people werent in danger because they were tracking him. Not because he wasnt planning to do damage. Thank you for the reporting. We also have the latest on the paris terror attacks, were learning new information about accomplices that may have aided the terrorists. Good morning, john berman. Developments coming in from all over europe this morning, including word of an arrest in belgium. In the town of charlevoix belgian officials have arrested a man who they say bought a car from Hayat Boumeddiene, she is in syria. She sold this man in belgium a car. They searched this mans apartment and they found ties some documents that tie that man to the weapons used by Amedy Coulibaly here in paris. So a possible connection to another suspect in belgium. All that chris, as were getting a new look at the terrifying moments inside the Grocery Store where Amedy Coulibaly killed four people. Chilling surveillance images if inside the kosher market in paris capture terrorists Amedy Coulibaly. His threehour siege that killed four people. Amedy coulibaly can be seen here dressed in jeans and a tshirt, wearing what appears to be a bulletproof vest. In the aisle, a childs abandoned stroller. Lying on the floor, two people he gunned down when he first burst in. The body closest to the cam ray, believed to be that of an employee. He reportedly grabbed one of coulibalys guns but it jammed he was shot to death. More than an hour into the standoff coulibaly ordered some hostages to disable security cameras in the building. I think this person was trained, he was somewhat sophisticated. As the Investigation Continues, a french newspaper acquired a copy of a loan application. Coulibaly borrowed around 7,000 back in december. Cnn has not independently confirmed the authenticity of these documents. This as another french newspaper, la parisienne claims that french authorities have identified an accomplice to coulibaly. Police suspect the man may have been responsible for shooting and wounding a jogger in a park south of paris last week. The ammunition used in that attack was the same as that used in one of coulibalys guns. The sort of lone wolf smaller attack gets much more difficult for Law Enforcement to follow. Theyre spread out, so many more of them. Since the terror last week more than 50 judicial proceedings have been opened in france for inciting terrorism and racist or antisemitic comments or actions, many proceedings involve graffiti on mosques. This country remains on high alert as the funerals for the victims killed in the attacks continue. U. S. Secretary of state john kerry is on his way here to paris. He arrives in a few hours. He will be the highestlevel u. S. Official to come here since the attacks of course he faced a lot of criticism, along with the president for not being here at the unity rally last sunt sundae. The secretary said his goal when he comes to france later today and tomorrow is to give the people of france chris, a big hug. And certainly it is needed john thats for sure. And whats going on there, reverberating back at home in the u. S. In many different ways. Alisyn over to you. Lets talk about it and bring in independent senator from maine, angus king a member of the Senate Armed Services committee and the intelligence committee. Senator, thanks for joining us this morning. Thank you, alisyn. Lets start with the breaking news this 20yearold ohio man was arrested for a plot that he said he was going to perpetrate on the u. S. Capitol. You and your colleagues were the targets. How seriously do you take a plot like this . Well i think tough take it seriously. You cant really tell whether this young man hadden the capability to pull this off. But what youre see something a kind of a continuum from the elaborately planned 9 11 attacks, through what happened in paris and were talking about all the links between the brothers in paris and coulibaly and aqap in yemen in those kinds of things it was kind of loose coordination some funding. And then you got the lone wolf. And each one has its own characteristics. And each one, they get progressively harder to to predict and prevent. Its really a break, a lot of cooperation between Law Enforcement, fbi, local Law Enforcement, Sheriffs Office local police in cincinnati. That foiled what appears to be at least you know he was buying guns at least appears to be some credible plot. These are very difficult. And the lone wolf is the toughest of all. And im afraid thats the world were in. Were just going to have to be be vigilant. Thats thats the answer. Theres no simple answer to this alisyn. Senator, youre just touching on exactly what con found the general public. Its impossible to know whether or not this is just an impressionable oddball who was aspirational, could never really have pulled it off. He was best friends with his pet cat as weve learned. Or if this is a lone wolf who then can hold people hostage and kill them in a Grocery Store. How do you ever figure out which one he was . Well you know were going to go through a Court Proceeding to try to determine that. To some extent. But youre absolutely right. Im not sure theres a brightline distinction between an impressionable oddball who has m15s and is trying to work out how to make pipe bombs. And a coldblooded jihadist. You know theres, theres a crossover there. How do you categorize the two brothers up in boston at the Boston Marathon . The point is we live in in dangerous times. On the other hand the, i think i hate to use the term good news its not really good news at all. But for example, the two brothers in france were on the nofly list they would have had a very hard time getting over here. The guy in cincinnati was caught at an early stage of his planned operation. So its not like were defenseless, but it is something that is is going to be a constant kind of concern. And it to me alisyn it goes to a deeper question. That is how do we deal with this radical ideology thats driving young men particularly into this kind of extremism, and, weve got to talk about what we do to deradicalize. For example, these brothers at least one of them they think developed this radical ideology in prison. In yemen. The british are now developing a program to deradicalize or to antiradicalize their prison system. Think thats something, thats the kind of thing we have to think about. But weve got to go deeper than just police fbi, c. I. A. And military. Weve got to talk about how do we stop this Movement Toward radicalization. Because otherwise, you know this is going to be a 100year war. Not only that, weve also had another conversation happening here on new day, this week weve had a couple of your colleagues, two senators on who say that we are doing sort of a halfhearted fight against isis. They believe, in the middle east. Weve had tom cotton on and john mccain. Who say that its time to get serious about really truly stamping out isis or al qaeda. Or whatever Extremist Group you want to talk about in syria and iraq. And that they believe that we need to actually have more u. S. Soldiers on the ground there to do it. What are your thoughts on that . Well im going to be seeing john mccain later today and i know were going to be talking about this. But you know weve been in the stamping out business for the last 12 or 13 years. And it hasnt worked all that well. Im just not sure i dont agree. I mean i think part of the problem is the more we we the u. S. And the west are active and particularly with troops on the ground the more it becomes a recruiting tool for the extremists and the more of them that come. You remember the old story, when we were kids about the hide raydra where you cut off one head and two grow back. I support the airstrikes in many ways weve slowed isis if not stopped them in terms of their progress in geography in iraq. But the next step of rooting them out, door to door in mosul, i think it would be a huge mistake to make those u. S. Troops. Number one, i dont think it would work. Number two i think it would backfire. Number three, i dont think the American People are ready to undertake that. Im just i think it would be the wrong, the wrong move. Because as i say, its easy to say Something Like stamping out. But we found that its harder. We thought al qaeda was disabled. Weve been taking out their leadership all of a sudden heres this plot in france that was at least facilitated by al qaeda, based in yemen. Al qaeda springing up in other parts of the world, boko haram down in nye jeeria were not going to be able to take them out by killing them one at a time. Thats not going to work. What is the basis of this ideology and dealing with the true weapons of mass destruction. The real weapons of mass destruction, are unemployed 22yearolds who fall for this radical ideology and weve got to figure out how to counter that. Senator angus king thank you so much for your perspective. Were talk to somebody about that very thing coming up later. But right now a look at your headlines. A major shakeup at the secret service, four senior officials have been reassigned following a string of embarrassing security lapses. The agencys interim director says change is necessary. A report last month from an independent panel described the secret service as insular and starved for leadership. Five yemeni inmates held at Guantanamo Bay have been transferred overseas. At least six years after the pentagon cleared them for release. Four will go to owe man, one to estonia, that lives 122 prisoners there. The move has createding an anywhere congress. Pair of explosions filling a subway station in chile with smoke. Officials believe two thieves blew up two atms and fled with cash. This is the second set of explosions to ratdle santiagos subway system in two months. In september police used a homemade bomb injuring 14 people. Were about an hour away from one of the most anticipated events of the year. The announcement of the Academy Award nominations, who will get the call . Well take you live to los angeles for the nominations announcement in our 8 30 a. M. Half hour. A reminder for to you set your calendars, the 87th Academy Awards, sunday, february 22nd. Are you going to reach in your pockets and do a little wagering . No im here to talk about wins who doesnt get nominated. I havent seen enough of the movies yet. Im into it but i havent seen the movies. Lets get through today and then we can discuss. I sense a lot of hesitation either youre in or out. Im in. Ill be in tomorrow. There is some riveting video of a Police Officer who breaks down after killing an unarmed man in montana. How do Police Officers make these splitsecond decisions . And how do they cope with the consequences . Some familiar words in washington immigration showdown. How hard will the new Republican Congress fight president obamas executive actions . John king takes it on for you, on inside politics. [ male announcer ] when John Huntsman was diagnosed with cancer, he didnt just vow to beat it. I vowed to eradicate it from the earth. So he founded Huntsman Cancer Institute. Everything about it would be different. It would feel different. Look different. And fight cancer in new and different ways. 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Theres newly released dash cam video that captures the shooting and death of an unarmed man by a montana Police Officer, just last spring. Were going to ask you to put yourself in the officers shoes when you watch this theres a warning about the video, were not going to go too far with it youre going to see how difficult it is for an officer to deal with what happens on the job. Im going to shoot you, i will shoot you. Hands up [ gunshots ] it only takes seconds, this is a billings Police Officer making a traffic stop last year. The entire incident recorded on his dash cam. What are you doing . Why are you moving your hands around so much. Youre making me nervous man. Hes talking to 27yearold richard ramirez. Hands up. Hands on the [ bleep ]. Get your [ bleep ] hands up. Im going to shoot you. I will shoot you. Hands up in less than 30 seconds ramirez lies mortally wounded. Moments after making the decision do pull the trigger, officer morrison breaks down. Ramirez was unarmed. But the officer later said he had no way of knowing. I thought he was going to pull a gun on me. In just last week a coroners jury ruled officer morrisons actions justified. Thats the back story of the situation, you see whats making it so impressive is what the officer officer winds up doing afterward. Lets talk about it with a former nypd Police Officer. Thank you for being with us we often go into the justification, they had a coroners jury they made their decision when you watch this officer, what is it a window into . About police life that we dont often see . Well a couple of things chris, most important thing to take from your viewers need to take from this is theres always an information asymmetry when it comes to a police stop. What i mean is the people in the car in that car, in any car, they know something the Police Officer doesnt. They know whether theyre armed or unarmed, they know their intentions they also know about the Police Officer, they know the Police Officer is armed. But the Police Officer approaching the car, which ive done many times, doesnt know any of that. So the responsibility is not with the Police Officer, its with the people in the car. To put their hands on the steering wheel, turn the interior lights on roll down the windows and let the officer know through that signaling that they have no ill will and no intentions. But people put it on the officer, youre the one who is trained, youre the one who gets the qualification in using the weapon. This is your job. You come up there, youre not supposed to be skittish or vulnerable to the kinds of reactions that the remember person would because youre a cop, is that fair . No youre not suppose to be skillet skittish but youre not supposed to be shot either. If youre not willing to show me your hands like the Office Anywhere the scenario there and youve been arrested for Armed Robbery in the past which is what i got from my view of the video, that says to me why are you not willing to show me your hands . And youre making furtherive movements and gestures i dont want to secondguess him in that scenario. I dont know what i would have done. But the circumstances there certainly lead me to be suspicious of why hes zog what hes doing. In too many of these cases we see theres no exchange between the officer and the suspect or victim whatever they become bc in that scenario. Thats shooting here theres a lot of dialoguing going on. How does that fact interior the analysis of justification . Well did says to me that the officer is doing his best to say, show me your hands, show me those dangerpresenting objects that are going to potentially manipulate a weapon and hes doing his best to get him to do that. No officer i know chris, or ever met in my 15plus years in Law Enforcement was ever even mildly interested in being involved in some kind of a shootout this isnt some heroic gesture as you can see by the reaction. Youre not soldiers youre not trained to kill. Police officers are trained to stop. I know you believe that i know that a lot ofofficers say that. Two points the first is the humanity. Sv different, but when you see the pain the anguish that this guy is going through, i know some of you dismiss that and say what the about the other persons family. Youre right, the ramirez family and how they feel they lost someone. Theres no winners in this. But is there fear every day . Is there pain of outcome because we dont often see because of the blue line or the men involved or whatever. Thats great point, chris. Police officers were not military officers here. Were not trained to kill. Theyre trained to stop whats happening. This is not a war, its a Police Public service. I know a number of people in law enforce. And in the military who have been involved in shootings, fatal and not fatal. I can tell he from speaking to them they were changed people. One in particular the guy was never the same. Weigh involved in a nonfatal shooting and the subject survived. But it this isnt the kind of thing you just let go. Its not like having coffee with a friend. Et cetera a liechanging event. I have a lot of friends on the job and to a man they always and woman they always say, i just want to come home. Its easy to think thats exaggerating the point. But when you see things like this it hits home. One bad fact this is not the first time this officer was involved in the shooting who of of someone who wound up not having a weapon. Last time it was a b. B. Gun. The officer shot that person as well they wound up dieing from their wounds what does that tell you . Is that bad luck or training or this particular officers discretion . You know what chris, i dont know it depends, the precinct i was in with the new York City Police department was very busy it was a 7 a precincts in East New York brooklyn. There were a number of officers who had been involved in multiple shootings, it was a fact of them being in a busy area so theres a lot that goes into it. Its easy to chalk talk it after the fact. But i really dont know why he was involved. Having a b. B. Kbungun is a weapon. No one can tell its a b. B. Gun from a distance. This is something that just gives us another window into the scenario. Dan bongino, thank you for the perspective. This is an evolving discussion we see it way too often. Theres a lot that goes into it. What do you think . What is the latest scenario dell but what you perceive as a problem and maybe potential solutions . Tweet us you know how to get me chriscuomo or facebook. Com newday. Alisyn . Is there a mitt romney backlash . 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Good morning, welcome back to new day, heres a look at your headlines, a 20yearold ohio man is in Police Custody for allegedly plotting an isisinspired bombing attack on the nations capitol. His name is Christopher Lee cornell. He bought a semiautomatic rifle and 600 rounds of ammunition to carry out his plan. Fbi agents say he was nabbed as he was about to travel to washington. The main body of airasia flight 8501 has been found. If the divers encounter trouble, crews may lift the entire fuselage out of the water. Investigators analyzing the data downloaded from the jets black boxes to try to begin to piece together the cause of the crash. Comedian bill cosby could be facing criminal charges. The latest accuser chloe goines says the comedian drugged and sexually assaulted her at the playboy mansion when she was just 18. Her attorney say the accusations might be the first to fall within californias statute of limitations. Sony pictures announced it will release a special dvd of the controversial film the interview. It will include 14 deleted scenes seven minutes of bloopers set for release february 17th. I wanted 90 minutes less of content from that movie. I didnt laugh at all. Its really a juvenile offensive movie. To be honest. Its funny that that is now our touchstone for freedom. And thats what we wave the banner of freedom. Its really an offensive movie. It is part of the price of unfettered free expression. Its not all going to be good expression. Its a version of what youre seeing with Charlie Hebdo as well. People that is a really offensive sat tire that they do in there. But its is everything okay . Sometimes the subjective analysis gets tough. I watched the movie. My wife loved it because it had franco in it. Hes dreamy. I felt like wow this was a lot of fighting and risk over this. Of course but we i support the right to make offensive movies but i need a little less of that one. Lets see how john king feels about it inside politics on new day. Good morning, john. Good morning, alisyn chris and michaela. I thought your review of the movie was actually overly kind. Oh i agree with the First Amendment stuff. But i dont know about the james franco thing. Dreamy . The ladies like him. The ladies like him. You cant hate what you dont understand. There you go ive been put in my place, discipline accepted. With me this morning to share reporting and insight, nia Malika Henderson of the Washington Post and John Henderson of the washington journal. The state of the Union Address is coming up. The president got thumped in the election last year. How much mojo does he have. Sit down with working women in baltimore say the federal government should subsidize sick leave. Last week he was on the road talking about how the federal government should help states subsidize Free Community college for two years. With a bigger Republican Senate and bigger republican house, does the president have a prayer of getting this stuff passed . Not at all. This is like the christmas list you draw up when youre five years old and you ask for a pony you ask for the dream house, you ask for everything and you dont get anything really. In this case the state of the union, this is the president putting the marker down for his vision but very rarely do things laid out in the Union Addresses, even though we cover them actually really end up happening. He cant be doing it for fun. I mean he thinks these are important things. Is there anywhere on those issues in particular where hes going to be able to do business with the republicans . Is this more about setting, okay now that you have two branches you own the congress essentially, republicans, im going to keep drawing sharp contrasts with you, saying im for this youre against me. Hell be doing it on his own, executive action federal employees getting benefits hell be able to do very little with republicans. This is more about his legacy. Hes also trying to change the bully pulpit in an interesting way. This sthot going to be a state of the union like we saw with bill clinton, a little less so with george bush with a laundry list hell try to do more framing and context and forwardlooking vision of his party and his legacy. The pew poll has the president at 47 approval 48 disapproval. He was way under water all last year hes about at parity. The republicans have more power, maybe the president gets a little leverage. Should stand up to republicans and say, you hate what you dont understand. Another issue hell have to deal with i dont not sure if its a fight between the republicans and the president or the republicans and the republicans. The house went on record saying the president s executive actions to allow undocumented to stay in the country and not to deport them but to allow them to have a status so they can work. Listen to john boehner. Mostly a partisan vote some democrats voted with the republicans, a few republicans voted no. Listen to john boehner, the house has no choice but to confront the president. We do not take this action lightly. But simply there is no alternative. This executive overreach is an affront to the rule of law and to the constitution itself. His fight is more with the Senate Mitch Mcconnell is it not . Because Mitch Mcconnell doesnt want to go this far . Boehner is right in the sense that there was no alternative. He had to do this coming out of the house, this is what folks on the right especially wanted him to do its going to be hard. And the senate can you imagine republican senators voting to essentially defund the department of Homeland Security right after weve had all of this news about whats happened over in paris . Its just hard to i got to push back. This is not a boehner versus mcconnell. This is the establishment wing of the Republican Party versus the extreme right wing that wants to take the party off the rails. They cant be this antiimmigrant this antihispanic with the way the country is going. Can you quibble on the policy be opposed to the policy. But to stand up and say its an affront to the rule of law and the president is taking unconstitutional action. And mcconnell will be on the establishment side i think well see a lot of republicans. The president may be doing the wrong thing, but its not beyond the rule of law, thats dangerous language. One of the republican senators who will have to deal with this was on the road in new hampshire. If you think back old enough to remember Ronald Reagan once talked about welfare queens he thought there were people bilking the system. Listen to rand paul campaigning in new hampshire. The senator gearing up to run for president in 2016 talking about people who he believes are gaming the disability system. All of these programs theres always somebody who is deserving. But everybody in this room knows somebody who is gaming the system. What i tell people is if you look like me and you hop out of your truck, you shouldnt be getting a disability check. We all know people who are horrifically disabled and cant work but if you have ablebody ablebodied people taking the money, theres not enough money left for the people who are truly disabled. Im sure there are a small percentage of people gaming the disability system and im sure there are a majority of people who get the benefits. Why is a guy running for president with all the issues we face whether its taxes and spending medicare and Social Security whether its how to balance the budget or not to balance the budget. Overseas threats, why are we talking about this . This is part of what youve heard from conservatives, this whole idea of takers. You heard mitt romney in 2012 go there with the whole 47 . Thats what rand paul is doing there, appealing to a certain set of americans who, you know in some ways are playing grievance politics these are white workingclass men and women who feel like there is this subset of a population that are takers and theyre taking advantage of the situation, a drain and drag on the system and the budget. Thats the political reality and democrats have played it up. Thats why bill clinton signed a welfare reform law. I think this is less of a dog whistle to africanamericans, which is what with welfare queens i think this is actually neighbor versus neighbor. I come from michigan, spent all of december up there. They complain the fact that their neighbors are gaming the system. There are a lot of people who know friends and relatives gaming the system and i think rand paul is connecting with that. Lets get quickly to the romney backlash. Mitt romney said on friday to a group of donors after saying no for months im thinking about this and now is reaching out to former staff members, talking to fundraisers, thinking about running a third time for president in 2016. Rupert murdoch has something to do with another network, i forget what its called. He said he had his chance he mishandled it. I thought mitt romney was a terrible candidate. Through his newspapers and fox network, has some influence over conservative voters is that the mainstream republican view a terrible candidate . In some ways yes. And that was the view last time as well that he is the last guy standing i guess well vote for him. You hear people saying hes a decent guy, but he had his chance hes a decent guy, but he didnt run a Great Campaign last time. But i mean to romneys credit it was a billion dollar campaign. He was able to raise the money. Hes one of the only republicans able to do that. The question is does romney listen to it hell have a speech on friday in san diego to the Republican National committee. It will be interesting to see if its just an exploration or if hes all in. Ron and nia malika coming in. Bill clinton was on seth myers last night. The question for seth myers, make sure when you ask a question like this you get your date exactly right. Listen. I want too get away from politics for a minute and talk about real estate. Do you think you might live in a different house in 2016 . I hope not, because 2016 is the Election Year and i dont have any place to move. 2017 would have been a more interesting answer. Aha, very clever. Math may not be his strong suit. Thanks so much john. The father of the ohio man who allegedly plotted a terror attack on the nations capital, says he had no idea about his sons plan. How can parents spot warning signs . A former jihadist tells us. Ben. Well, that was close. You aint lyin. Let quicken loans help you save your money. With a mortgage thats engineered to amaze. Introducing data stash. Now at tmobile, all your unused data rolls forward to the next month. Well even get you started with 10 gigabytes of free 4g lte data. Data stash. Only from tmobile. [container door opening] what makes it an suv is what you can get into it. [container door closing] what makes it an nx is what you can get out of it. Introducing the firstever lexus nx turbo and hybrid. Once you go beyond utility theres no going back. E financial noise financial noise financial noise financial noise good to have you back with us on new day, 20yearold Christopher Lee cornell has been arrested. He was allegedly planning to attack the u. S. Capitol in washington. His father told cnn he had no idea about his sons suspected plot. Take a listen. . When you learn the details of what your son is alleged to have been planning did you have any idea . Did did make any sense to you . No sense whatsoever. You knows hes lived at home his whole life. Hes been out of state of ohio a couple of times. When he was younger. Hes a big mommas boy, you know his best friend is his kittycat named mikey. I cant believe, this is just like total shock. Joining us now, muban sheikh is a former jihadist. Coauthor of undercover jihadi. Thank you so much for joining us here. I want to talk about this 20yearold. A kid from ohio, a mommas boy, how does he get wrapped up with the likes of this . This is a very common theme to hear that somebody who seems like the nicest guy, quoteunquote as the father was saying never left the state. So he probably was spending a lot of time online on social network and peer grouping also online. This is how it happens, you lock yourself away. You isolate yourself in a limited and restricted peer group. You come to accept their ideology and youre off. But wait lots of kids do that, mubin, but they dont get wrapped up in plots to bomb the u. S. Capitol. Well radicalization is an individual process. Every person is going to react to it differently. For example, when we see atrocities taking place around the world, everyone responds to it in a different way. Depending on whats happening in your life you will respond to it more intensely than other people. So im going to look to see, he probably has family issues this is very common. Young people and parents, you add, you start to add clusters of behavior and then youre going to start to see indicators towards towards violent action. Mubin, i dont know if you had a chance to see and hear the powerful video. The more whose sons planned to travel from chicago to syria and join isis. We condemn this violence in the strongest terms and we condemn the brutal tactics of isis and groups like them and we condemn the brainwashing and recruiting the children through the use of social media and the internet. And we have a message for isis for mr. Baghdadi, leave our children alone. A tearful leave our children alone. Is the draw of this this extremism stronger than a mothers love of a parents love the support of a community . Well young kids especially even up to 20 especially a kid described as a big mommas boy. They dont listen to their parents. Theres a huge disconnect with culture, especially. Not just in white america, but in minority communities as well. Your first, Second Generation who are here from where ever. Their kids might not be feeling like they belong. They might not be integrating properly. Theres usual lay divide between the parent and the children to the point where these groups and these networks of individuals, whether social or in real life they become your new family. Its no different than joining a gang or a cult. You talk about the importance of not just finding the terrorists but getting to these vulnerable people. The vulnerable population before they become terrorists or radicalized. And you pointed us to this guide from the university of liverpool. I think we have a full still to show what were talking about. I want you to walk us through this quickly. Level one, concern and consultation. Theres something there that is a flag to somebody about behavior of a young person. Yeah this is not about finding terrorists this is about, its a Vulnerability Assessment as to how kids could become vulnerable to recruitment by extremists and so that graph is useful. If you look at the first category consultation thats something that Community Organizations can really get on. So for example, if the Police Arrest someone or theres some kind of criminality link to it they can then kind of channel the person to a Community Organization a religious scholar, a social worker psychologist to try to counsel the person see whats happening in their life. When you move on to the next step intervention and monitor. This is where Law Enforcement and intelligence agencies will start to pick up chatter, social network use. Maybe theyve been doing surveillance on some individuals and this new kid pops out of the blue. This is where theres more government involvement. And if you look at the third category this is criminality. Its criminal behavior and if such a tool is being used in the community, the issue would be that this is a, where youre basically required to report to authorities. Its no different than in the school where they see that kids are being assaulted or abused. There is a duty to report. Those are criminal criminal activities criminal behaviors. And this guy by liverpool was developed like a number of years ago, it has five years of testing. Field testing we understand. Yeah. Field testing. And the uk is using this a lot. Theyve had problems with radicalization and young people being radicalized. But again, this is just one of the tools that are out there for parents, especially to use. Its a Public Document and theyre encouraged to use it. Mubin shaikh thank you for helping us begin to understand the process that can happen to a young person becoming radicalized. Well talk to you about it again, im sure. Stick around everyone wering about to have a live interview with two mountain climbers who have just done something no one else ever has. Theyll be with us, live. Hi, guys. So youre looking for a loan . Hows your credit . 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Its pretty surreal to wake up this morning and have the climb complete. Kevin, what was it like . Were there times in the middle of this you thought, you know what this was a bad idea . No there were no times i thought it was a bad idea. There were times i questioned if i was going to be able to do it but never thought it was a bad idea. We were right where we wanted to be when we wanted to be there. Tommy, i know you cant talk but thats too bad because i want to hear how you lost your voice. Was it from the exposure or all the celebrating and screaming from joy you did after . I think it was mostly celebrating. A bit of dehydration. You convinced us youve lost your voice. That is unbelievable. Worth it. It sounds cool because of what you just did. Look you talked about this was no overnight thing. You have tried before. You have failed before. It took a lifelong friend beship between the two of you. Along the way this is slow meticulous work. How do you keep your brain focused on a slow meticulous, painstaking process . Well, it starts with a goal and if you want to achieve that goal or that vision and that dream then focus isnt an issue. Kevin, weve been joking here on the show this morning. Were looking at this picture. This very one thats on our screen right now, and it shows one of you guys with a band aid on your finger. Is that all that you sustained . Other than losing your voice, was that the, you know sum of the injuries during this challenge . Yeah. Thankfully the worst injuries we had were slight cuts to our fingertips which in the grand scheme of things with what we were doing up there, totally fine. A little bit of insight into the communication between the two of you. How did that work . Was there a lot of chitchat . Do you wait until you end a session . Is there communication about paths . Help us figure it out. Yeah. You know in climbing vernacular the sequence is called beta and we constantly are exchanging beta for how to climb these pitches, these rope lengths up the wall. Theres 32 of them. So while were working on it we were in constant communication of the different ways that work and dont work and, you know cheering each other on while were on our ascend effort. Tommy caldwell kevin jorseson we have been wanting to talk to you since this climb began on the 27th. I was about to climb up after yall to get this interview. Very very proud of you. We know the president sent a tweet to congratulate you bask in the glory and get his voice back. Just know the nation is very very proud of you. Thanks for having us. Thank you. That must have been a good party last night. What are you going to climb after . Thats a lot of beta. Ill deal with him later. I heard some skepticism in his yeah. Rightly so. Back to our top story this morning. 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Terror threat on capitol hill hill. 20yearold ohio man apparently inspired by isis. Planned to set off a series of bombs. I believe he was coerced in a lot of ways. What would you say to him if you saw him . I just want to give him a big hug and bring him home. Chilling surveillance inside the kosher market. Coming up right now in hollywood to hear the nominations. Among the expected best picture nominee, boy mood. This is new day with chris cuomo, Alisyn Camerota. 20yearold ohio man has been captured a man who was allegedly about bomb the capitol. He was going to kill people he considered enemies. The suspect got the fbis attention after posts on social media promoting jihad. He was heavily armed and ready to pull off the deadly attack. Lets get right to alexandra field in cincinnati tracking the latest developments for us. Reporter authorities had been watching him for months but they finally arrested Christopher Cornell two miles away from his house outside of the gun shop. He bought two weapons and hundreds of rounds of ammunition the final piece of evidence in their investigation which led them to believe he was serious about planning an attack. But his parents say this is a kid who didnt have the capability or the resources to pull off an attack. An ohio man now in custody for allegedly plotting an isis inspired attack at the u. S. Capitol. Officials say Christopher Lee cornell was planning to detonate pipe bombs around the building and then shoot people as they fled. The 20yearold came to the fbis attention several months ago for alarming social media posts talking about violent jihad. In an undercover operation the fbi says cornell told an informant he had contacts overseas that he had aligned himself with isis and believed lawmakers were his enemy. A criminal complaint says cornell did not think he would receive authorization to conduct a terrorist attack in the United States but wanted to wage jihad on his own writing, i believe we should meet up and make our own group in alliance with the Islamic State here and plan operations ourselves. He had researched the targeted government buildings and the construction of pipe bombs. Wednesday cornell purchased two m15s and 600 rounds of ammunition from this gun store in cincinnati before fbi agents arrested him in the parking lot. Wkrc obtained this image of his arrest from a customer inside a nearby store. The Gun Store Owner who had been cooperating with authorities described cornells demeanor. There wasnt really anything about him that would have suggested he was involved in Something Like this. Reporter his parents, devastated and in shock. Im just heart broken. Just want to give him a big hug and bring him home because he aint out to hurt nobody. He may have lost his way somewhere in there, but i believe he was really vulnerable and i believe he was coerced in a lot of ways. Reporter john cornell says that his son recently took up an interest in islam but had never mentioned isis. He explained the peaceful side of islam to me and he never showed any, any signs of any any kind of violence or anything. I mean quiet, shy, good kid. Reporter attempted killing of a u. S. Officer, that is one of the charges cornell faces. He will be in court for the first time tomorrow. What is really key in this case here in identifying the suspect was the help the informant gave the authorities. Thats why they were able to watch him for months and Law Enforcement tell cnn that lawmakers were never in fact in any imminent danger. Thank you for the reporting. We have new information about the terrorists who murdered four people inside a Kosher Grocery store last saturday. Lets get to john berman with more. John what do we know . Reporter good morning, chris. Yes, a new development. A new development that turns our eyes towards spain, specifically madrid. Cnn has confirmed from Spanish Security officials that Amedy Coulibaly, the man who killed four people in the kosher market was in madrid about a week before the attack. He drove there with his girlfriend or partner, Hayat Boumeddiene. They arrived in madrid on december 31st. They left on january 2nd. He coulibaly came back to paris. She, Hayat Boumeddiene went on to istanbul. From there she is believed to have headed to syria. There is a third person with them in madrid say the spanish officials. What is unclear is if that person is a person seen in the video in the is stand bool airport with Hayat Boumeddiene. Or is it Amedy Coulibaly. Another key question according to someone close to the security situation here in paris told me is why madrid . Is it possible they just wanted one last trip to a nice city before he was heading to his almost certain death in some kind of terror attack or was it to connect with perhaps more people involved in a terror cell in that city . Madrid like so many cities across europe chris, does have people who have returned from the battles in syria and the middle east. There could be people there whom they met with. There have been several people, according to this one guy i talked to who said that many people have returned from the middle east very recently to madrid. So the possibility of meetings there something they are looking into very closely right now. All right, john. Again, its not about the size of this connection, what was done its how many it took to get this done. Thats what obviously is occupying the authorities. Thank you for staying on top of it my friend. Well be back to you later in the show. Alisyn. Chris, here to weigh in on the terror investigation and to speak about what the president will focus on is valerie jarrett. Good morning, ms. Jared. Good morning, alisyn. How are you . Im well. Lets talk about all of the breaking news weve been hearing this morning and in the days prior. First, lets start with this foiled plot against the u. S. Capitol, this 20yearold ohio man has been arrested as he tried to buy guns. He said he wanted to attack the capitol and to kill congressmen and women. And when you couple that with everything thats been happening in paris and the massacres there, i can imagine it must be an anxious time inside the white house. Tell us the conversations youre having. Well of course it is. First of all, i want to compliment the fbi and all the local Law Enforcement teams that worked so vigilantly to capture this person. So yes, we have to be on high alert, cooperate and be aware of whats going on around you. Fortunately this issue resolved itself very well thanks to great efforts of Law Enforcement. Of course the investigation into what happened in paris and the massacres there continues. We know the secretary of state, john kerry, has arrived in paris. He says he wants to share a big hug with the french people. Do you and president obama regret not sending someone to paris sooner . Well, i think as we said certainly we would have liked to have participated in the parade. I remind you that attorney general holder was in paris for a very important meeting together with his colleagues from around europe and around the world to take a look at what we can do to make sure were cooperating fully. I think we certainly got the substance right but it would have been great to participate in the parade and were delighted secretary kerry was there now. Was there consideration to have eric holder participate in the unity march . Im not aware of that. He had pressing issues to get back. He dropped everything to fly over there at the invitation of the french to participate in the meeting. I dont know the facts about whether or not he was asked to stay. Lets talk about the big domestic issues. One big thing on the front of everyones plate now is immigration. Yes. Just yesterday House Speaker john boehner came out and basically called out the president for what he considered over reach with executive action. Let me play for you what john boehner said about the president yesterday. To think that the president of the United States actually studied constitutional law is one thing. He doesnt just teach or learn constitutional law, he taught it as well but now his actions suggest that hes forgotten what these words even mean. Enough is enough. John boehner says enough is enough with executive action. Whats your response . Well first of all, yes, the president was a constitutional law scholar. No he hasnt forgotten a thing. He is confident based on counsel that hes received from the Justice Department as well that what he did is well within his legal authority, very well within his legal authority. I remind you that the senate over 2 1 2 years ago passed a bill on comprehensive Immigration Reform and we waited and waited and waited for the house to take action. Rather than trying to reverse what the president did which will strengthen our immigration system keep america safe why not pass a bill . Pass their own bill. If theyre uncomfortable with the executive actions, then they should take action themselves and we would love for them to do that and more importantly the American People have been waiting for them to take action. So the president believes lets not deport families and break up families lets focus on felons. Lets strengthen our border. Lets make sure we hold people accountable. Lets sponsor a bill to help people get right with the law, pay taxes and want to be members of our society. Weve always been a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. We can do that. The senate had demonstrated that its possible in a bipartisan basis so lets encourage this new congress to do the same. Lets get this settled on a comprehensive basis once and for all. Ms. Jarrett, lets talk about what you and the president will be focused on specifically today, and that is how to extent sick leave for working families. Its interesting. Ill give you some statistics. All parents work in 60 of families. Thats a bhig change since 1965 when it was only 40 . Fewer than 60 of working adults had any sick leave. We are finding people are responsible for their parents and elder care is important. They want to make sure for workers and families we are providing the kind of benefits that recognize the fact that we dont just work. Hes supporting the healthy parents act. It provides seven sick days to every american. 40 million americans dont have a single day off with pay whether theyre sick their childs sick or their parents are sick. We want to encourage paid leave. So the federal government is contemplating now a policy lets not wait for them. So the president is encouraging states and cities across our country to pass laws that would provide both sick time paid as well as family leave paid and hes also signing a president ial memorandum that would provide federal employees with the ability to advance their sick time and take it for paid leave for six weeks and calling on congress to pass a paid leave policy for federal workers as well. And the reason why behind all of this its not just good for workers but its good for the economy. Study after study shows that employers who provide these benefits are more productive and more profitable whether its a Small Business a Large Business it doesnt matter. Do you anticipate any push back from congress on the president s signing the president ial memorandum on this initiative . Well, i think clearly its well within his authority to sign the president ial memorandum. I think what we would really call on them is to recognize the fact that with these changing demographics in the workplace, if our u. S. Employers want to be globally competitive, they have to offer the kind of benefits that allow them to compete for, to attract and retain the best talent. Theres a range of issues that weve been focusing on that grew out of the working family summit that the president hosted earlier in the summer so its workplace flexibility, equal pay, increasing the minimum wage child care and paid sick leave and paid sick time. These are all important benefits to have a Productive Work force. Valerie jarrett, Senior Advisor to president obama. Thanks so much for taking time for new day. Youre welcome. Thank you, have a great day. Lets get over to michaela. Headlines, Washington Post journalist retained will stand trial. Its unclear what jason ressin has been charged with. The pope speaking out today about those terror attacks in france telling journalists aboard a flight to manila there are limitations to free speech. He said people should not provoke nor insult other peoples faith. The pontiff is on a five day tour of the philippines. Quite a changing of the guard. Theyre being reassigned that follows a series of embarrassment and security lapses. They say change is necessary. A report by a special Investigative Panel described the secret service as quote, starved for leadership. You know that game hungry hungry hippo . Sure. Have you heard of the hungry angry hippo . Yup. A tour guide in zambia sped up his boat just in time because this unbelievably fast hippo charged towards it. Incredibly it surfaced near feet from the boat. We have to run the video again. Its going to come here. Wait for it. Oh, my goodness. 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And, yet, you are probably getting ready at 8 20 here in the east to leave for a job that probably you feel isnt paying you enough. Why isnt this robust economy resulting in higher wages . Lets discuss with somebody who knows. Larry summers, former treasury secretary under president clinton and former director of the National Economic council under president obama. Mr. Summers, mr. Secretary, thank you for joining us. You on a trans atlantic board that you chair along with the exchecker in the British Parliament ed ball. Its called the exclusive prosperity commission. You have a new report coming out with recommendations of how to help reduce growing income inequality spurring middle class growth. Lets put your suggestions, sir, into context with where we see the problems. For example, valley jarrett was just on new day. We know her importance to the president. She cites the problem very well without right now offering from the administration a solution to that problem. She says all parents now work in 60 of families but they are not seeing their wages grow. Larry, why is that . You know, chris, these problems were not made in a month or a year or even in a decade and theyre not going to get solved overnight, but you look at some countries like australia and canada that have seen patterns of wage increases for middle income families who live in the same world of globalization and technology that we do so theres no reason for fatalism. This is an issue that can and i believe will be addressed. Give please. So give me the big fix because what are the impressive numbers we see . Unemployments going down but not under employment. People are working harder. Theyre taking temporary jobs. More hours, less pay. How do you fix it . Chris, lets not forget that we are at a very different place than we were five years ago. We have a long way to go but we are at a very different place than we were five years ago. What we need to do now is address the long standing structural issues. Let me give you some examples. Please. We live in a moment where we can borrow money as a country for 1. 8 and where weve got a massive construction unemployment rate. There is no reason why that should not be the moment when we fix Kennedy Airport, when we fix tens of thousands of schools across the country where the paint is chipping off the walls. Our Infrastructure Investment rate has never been lower and the need has never been greater. Why . Infrastructure investment puts people to work. It generates a further Multiplier Effect as the people who are put to work spend money. It makes our economy function more efficiently. So why isnt it happening . Were in a just in time economy. We need a transportation infrastructure that can move things efficiently, and it takes a burden off my childrens generation because if we do the necessary things like fixing Kennedy Airport now, that burden wont be placed on their generation when the time comes. So whats the solution larry . Why isnt it happening . Is it because its perceived as Government Spending . Why isnt it happening if its such an obvious solution . I think its i think theres a perception on some peoples part that anything the government does is waste. I dont think the hoover dam was waste. I dont think the interstate highway system was waste. I dont think the basic research that led to the internet was waste. Of course weve had important reforms that control earmarks that stop bridges to nowhere, that discipline the congressional process. Of course we need to do what was done during the recovery act, which is put the progress of every project on the internet so people can follow it every week or month. Transparency is a huge antedote to incompetence and inefficiency. Infrastructure is one piece. Okay. A second piece is weve got to empower work. We cant treat work jersers as just another commodity subject to market forces. The minimum wage is way lower than it was when ronald regan was president and there was nothing bad happening to employment because of the minimum wage when he was president. We have allowed the ability of unions to organize workers to completely erode in this country. Valerie is right. In fact if you give the right kinds of protections that let people take time offer when they have a pressing family right. Need more people take jobs more people enter the labor force, you get more workers and that ultimately increases right. The scale of the economy. But, larry yeah. Heres the concern with that. Right now minimum wage is largely going to be tied with what the states want to do right . Thats going to be a hard thing to create one pattern with but you also have this fundamental pattern of what is allowed to be rewarded in your economy. Youre saying value workers, but weve moved completely the opposite way. Look at the disparate betweenity between wall street and main street. Look at jampie dimon, even after Current Conditions no one went to jail he still says banks are under assault. In the old days you dealt with one reg guulateorregulator. Theyre not lending to anybody they dont want to. Every business gets reward for cutting its labor costs. How do you change this dynamic where the banks are complaining, businesses are complaining and they get what they want which almost always means that the worker loses . Theres no single step there. Ill give you an example of one thing that we recommend in the report. People get bonuses in the financial sector. Thats probably okay but they shouldnt get the whole bonus this year. A bunch of it should be held aside and invested for them and if it turns out they did something wrong or if it turns out that one of their investments goes very wrong, then that bonus should be clawed back. That would give them a stake in not just what happens this year but in the longer term health of their institutions. That is the kind of thing that regulators need to push and pursue. Of course we need to avoid duplication. Of course theres no reason to be punitive for the sake of being punitive. Look, the country has been through the ringer on this financial crisis and part of the reason it was through the ringer on this financial crisis was that there wasnt enough regulation in advance and that the regulators werent using the authorities they had. So the pendulum is shifting towards more regulation and i think thats appropriate. That doesnt mean that it doesnt need to be monitored very carefully, but we do need to be prepared to hold people responsible. We do need to make sure that our corp rans governance institutions are focused on the Long Term Health of companies and not just on share prices in the next day and the next month. Larry, its great in theory. Were certainly now seeing it play out in practice. They have their new report out. We encourage people to look at it and judge for themselves. Larry summers, thank you very much. Thank you, chris. And the nominees are in a matter of minutes well find out who was nominated for a 2015 Academy Award. Well go live to los angeles for the big announcement. I like to think of myself as more of a control. Enthusiast. Mmm, a perfect 177degrees. And thats why this road warrior rents from national. I can bypass the counter and go straight to my car. And i dont have to talk to any humans, unless i want to. And i dont. And national lets me choose any car in the aisle. Control. Its so, whats the word . Sexy. Go national. Go like a pro. Ive smoked a lot and quit a lot but ended up nowhere. Now. 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Well bring down all the nominations with the cnn entertainment commentator and senior west coast editor of vanity fair. 20 seconds until it happens. Any big predictions before that happens . Its really exciting this year because i think were going to get some firsttimers coming into the oscar race. Theres a possibility for Jennifer Aniston to get nominated. Also on the guy side you have benedict cumberbatch. Im going to interrupt you. Lets go to Beverly Hills to listen to the nominations live. Academy president Cheryl Boone Isaacs and chris pine. Welcome. What an exciting morning. Thank you, alfonso and j. J. For kicking it all off. Chris, lets continue. For performance by an actor in a supporting role the nominees are robert duval in the judge. Ethan hawk in boyhood. Edward norton in bird man. Or the unpicks pekted virtue of ignorance. Fox catcher. And j. K. Simmons in whiplash. For performance by an actress in the supporting role we have Patricia Arquette in boy Hood Laura Dern in wild Keira Knightley in the imitation game, emma stone in bird man or the unexpected virtue of ignorance and meryl streep in into the woods. For achievement in make cup and hair makeup and hair styling, bill core so he and dennis lydiere for fox catcher. Frances han nonand mark culier for the grand Budapest Hotel. And elizabeth and david white for the guardians of the galaxy. For achievement in costume design the nominees are were going to jump in right now as they carry on with these other announcements. We have some news here that well hash out with krista smith who joins me again. We heard the best supporting actor and best supporting actress, robert duval, ethan hawke, mark ruffalo, j. K. Simmons. These are all very familiar names in hollywood. Yes, they are. This was pretty much set from a while ago. Theres no surprises really in this category. Mark ruffalo in foxcatcher. J. K. Simons this was a big deal for him. A small movie out of sundance. Whiplash, its a big moment for him. Obviously robert go ahead, michaela. Interesting to think of all the work that hes done in television finally getting this big, big nod not only from the globes but the academy here. Yeah i think theres two stories here its really j. K. And robert duval whos in his 80s who has been acting for what is it five decades at such a high level. I think hes so beloved in this community. Its nice to see him get that nod. On the actress side Patricia Arquette Keira Knightley, meryl streep some people not loving her. It wouldnt be the oscars if meryl streep wasnt nominated. I dont even know how many at this poinl. Is it 19 or 20 . Weve lost count. Yeah. But its great for laura dern. Thats kind of a surprise. She was on the cusp maybe was she going to get in or not for residentialce Reese Witherspoons wild. I was thinking of the tremendous career emma stone is having and to see her nominated for her work is fantastic. Yeah i loved birdman and emma stone did something that no one has seen her do before. Completely different departure for her and she just nailed it. Also ed norton was fantastic. I loved birdman and i think were going to see Michael Keaton get a best actor nomination as well. We have best actor, best actress of course best picture. A lot of people have been wondering. Theres been a great slate of films this year. Some of the films that a lot of people havent had a chance to see. Some films that have been out for a while. Im curious what your thoughts are on the contenders for best picture ahead. Well im really curious to see if unbroken gets a nomination. Obviously people really like it. Its out there. People are going to see it but i havent seen her get any love yet from any of the other the gilds. You havent seen it mentioned a lot. Selma it seems odd to me it hasnt gotten some of the awards earlier on. Ill be curious. Im going to jump in once again because were about to make more announcements. Actress in a leading role lets take a listen. The nominees are marion cotierre in two days one night. If he lis sit at this jones in the theory of everything. Julian morin, still alice. Rosamyn pike in gone girl and Reese Witherspoon in wild. For performance by actor in a leading role the nominees are steve corrow in fox catcher, Bradley Cooper in american sniper. The imitation game. Michael keaton in bird man or the unexpected virtue of ignorance and Eddie Redmain in the theory of everything. And, finally, we are pleased to announce the films selected as the best picture nominees. They are american sniper. Clint eastwood Robert Lorenz andrew lazar, Bradley Cooper and peter morgan producers. Birdman or the unexpected virtue of ignorance. John lescher and james w. Scotchapol producers. Boy hood. Richard link leer and Kathleen Sutherland producers. The grand Budapest Hotel Wes Anderson Steven rales and Jeremy Dawson producers. The imitation game Nora Grossman edu ostraskowsky. Selma kristina colson oprah winfreyde winfrey, d. D. Gardner. The theory of everything tim bev vin, eric fellner, lisa bruce and anthony mccartin producers and whiplash Jason Blum Helen esterbrook and david lancaster, producers. For a complete list of all the nominations please visit oscar. Com. The president of the academy and chris pine talking about the nominations. We have so much to go through. Some great, great news here. Were going to discuss it in a moment with krista smith and discuss our Oscar Nominations. Announcer the nominees is brought to you by the all new volkswagen gulf family 2015 mow the tore trend car of the year. Isnt it time for german engineering . Why did a panel of 11 automotive experts. Name the Volkswagen Golf motor trends 2015 car of the year . 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They see themselves in Michael Keaton. Hes trying to get his fame and his glory back. They love this movie. I will tell you though a couple of things jumped out at me right away. Yes, those movies got a lot of nominations but i was surprised by the amount of love for american sniper it didnt through the rest of the award season but today the academy gave it a lot of love. Bradley cooper seemingly knocking david oyeleloyo out of the race. He didnt get a nomination for his role as dr. Martin luther king jr. In selma. Jennifer not getting a nomination for kate. It seems Marianne Cotillard. Its been an interesting morning but a good morning. This is the importance of deciding Academy Voters and the Foreign Press association who decides the globes. Right. The Foreign Press, i think thats basically made up of about 90 journalists that come together and decide what they want. The academy, you have everybody, all the actors are voting for the other actors. So its like nischelle was saying you look at these movies. They are really well performed like birdman and also the love for american sniper, grand Budapest Hotel. Actors love actors. The Marianne Cotillard came out of nowhere. They thought it was going to go to amy adams or Jennifer Aniston. Shes a big surprise on that one. Nischelle, im all about who you two think is going to win here. But i want to ask about unbroken. Yes. I think thats the most phenomenal survival story ive ever read key word read. Has not gotten the nod anywhere . A little of both chris. Im surprised, too. In the early nominations this morning we did see unbroken get nominated in some of the lesser categories. I thought could this be a trend for the movie in some of the bigger categories. We did not see that with directing. We did not see it with best picture. The academy can name up to ten movies for best picture. I thought maybe they would squeeze unbroken in there. You can put ten pictures they only put nine. We did not see that there. Yes, it is a surprise for me. As well as no nomination for gone girl. I thought that would get a nomination as well. There have been some things to chew on this morning here. This is what we love about this time because it sparks the conversation and we talk about it all the way to february 22nd until the awards. And, nischelle, i want to get back to Jennifer Aniston for a second. Shes been on a bit of a movie blitz for her movie kate. And for her not to get any award, is that a surprise . A bit of a surprise because she has definitely been campaigning for this. A lot of times, i remember last year we were talking, chris, a lot about wolf of wall street and how Leonardo Dicaprio did not like to campaign to get a nomination. Jennifer aniston says forget that i am campaigning. She felt like it was her signature role she did a great job and she felt like she deserved a nomination. I think that was definitely a bit of a surprise. The folks at american sniper did a late oscar push. Theyve been on a blitz. I interviewed Bradley Cooper on monday morning and Sienna Miller for this movie. They are everywhere talking about this because it took him two years to get this movie made and if you know chris kyles story, i mean it is an amazing story. Talk about a survival story with unbroken this is a survival story. A man who survived four tours of duty coming home to be murdered by a veteran he was trying to help. Its a wonderful story. Bradley cooper is great in it. He really is. Chris at ta krista i want to go back to the best picture. You have the theory of everything talking about the tremendous life of stephen hawking. The grand Budapest Hotel, we love that. But boyhood, this film took 12 years to make. You knew that Academy Members had to vote for a project that was this i dont know robust. Well of course. Its so ambitious to do this just that youre going to hire a 6yearold actor and assume that youre going to be able to be with him for the next 12 years and that he would actually stick with the project. Yeah. As with ethan hawke and Patricia Arquette. This is a tremendous nomination. Richard linkletter hes a low key guy. Everyone is rooting for him. The movie is so moving. It is. Its a great film. I loved it. I have to cut you off, ladies. We could talk about this all day. We know that the oscars are happening. Our thanks to Nischelle Turner and krista smith for crunching through all of this. We want to hear from you at home. Let us know what you think on social media. Big day in hollywood. A lot of excited folks in hollywood. You got that bit of news but theres a lot going on in the world. Lets get you to the newsroom with Carol Costello right after a little break. Nutes the American Red Cross responds to a home fire or other emergency. You can help. Please donate now. 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