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Speaking on cbs 60 minutes president obamaing a knowledgeing what the u. S. Intelligence has said that the government absolutely underestimated isis. They were able to reconstitute themselves and take advantage of that chaos and attract foreign fighters who believed in their jihadist nonsense and traveled everywhere from europe to the United States to australia to poorts of the muslim world converging on syria. Reporter while the u. S. And arab allies continued hitting isis from the air, isis sill managed an ad vans in syria near the Turkish Border. Yet, turkey is still not a military partner in this fight. Some European Countries have joined coalition but wont touch syria. The u. S. Is still leading this. Thats always the case, america leads. We are the indisspenceable nation. We have capacity no one else has. Our military is the best in the history of the world and when trouble comes up anywhere in the world, they dont call beijing, they dont call moscow. They call us. Thats how we roll. And thats what makes this america. Reporter how do americans feel about this . A new poll this morning shows 73 approve the airstrikes about the same amount feel the u. S. Will likely have to send Ground Troops and fewer, 61 , are confident the u. S. Will succeed in its goal of degrading and destroying isis. Bipartisan support for the mission but now bipartisan concern, what it will look like, whether congress should have debated and voted on the plan, whether u. S. Boots will end up on that volatile ground if no one else steps up. We have no choice. These are bar barrians. They intend to kill us. If we dont destroy them first, were going to pay the price. Reporter those poll numbers are interesting, it shows more americans now than just a few weeks ago approve of how things are going in this country and how the president is handling isis, but those numbers are still quite low and more than half of americans, 51 , say they dont trust him as commander in chief. Chris. Interesting numbers. Its still very early. Who would have thought this close to the Midterm Election wed be talking about a foreign battle and not obamacare or immigration. Thank you for reporting this morning. For the first time the pentagon says it hit targets under seenl bysiege by isis. Lets bring from our pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr. We hear the kurds are asking for more effective airstrikes. Reporter they are, indeed, mikaela. Good morning. We did see one u. S. Coalition airstrike over the weekend at a place called kobani. Remember that name. Our own cnn crews have witnessed so much of the fighting. That is one of the airstrikes over the weekend. There were a number of others in syria, other isis installations. But its raising the question about what is going on in Northern Syria along the Turkish Border and why the u. S. Has only had really one strike there so far. What u. S. Officials are telling me is their mission in syria is to degrade and destroy isis, not to defend the syrian kurds at this point. That is not a u. S. Mission. If they were doing it without thorks it would be called mission creep, essentially. So not yet, at least. The defense secretary chuck hagel has said they are looking at the situation along that Turkish Border where the certain kurds are struggling to fight against isis, tho talking to coalition partners. Were, this is right up against the Turkish Border, a nato allie. Turkey not in the fight yet, but there is some talk about the turkish government about what their next steps may be and everyone is watching to see what the u. S. May do next. This is really shaping up to be an air campaign where the u. S. Is striking in a number of areas trying to put isis back on its heels. Very clearly, it will take a long time. Even the pittsburgh saying airstrikes alone will never be enough. Delicate, yet important work. We know how vital those airstrikes are. Barbara starr. Thank you so much. Lets give you perspective oak, along syrias border, we turn to our National Correspondent in turkey in a village controlled by isis near the border. What can you tell frus where you are . Reporter well, were on the turkish side but just across the border is a village controlled by isis. That is a village that, in fact, isis managed to take over after those u. S. Airstrikes that took place further to the east still close to the town you heard Barbara Starr talking about earlier. There are only two villages, the kurds here have been begging for more help, failing to understand how it is that kaelths aircraft can be overhead, yet this is allowed to take place. We have been watching all morning, isis drivers driving around motorcycles with complete impunity, bringing in more weaponry. Then further to the west from where we are right now, two mortar round landing inside turkey. Very close to camerons cnn has right there in that location. Yesterday, mortars landing inside turkey as well. So again, people here asking us over and over again, what is the coalition waiting for . All right. Help under the circumstances understand a little more of this village of khobani, the number of civilians there. We know isis has been indiscriminate in their killings. Why do they feel so threatened and cornered . Reporter well, theyre effectively under siege. Isis came barreling through here around ten days ago, taking over dozens of villages and towns. It is predominantly kurdish part of Northern Syria, sending upwarsd of 200,000 refugees across the border. Its the last town standing in koboni. If koboni falls to isis. That means isis has a direct logistical route to the border with turkey. When it comes to the kurds that have proven to be fairly effective coming to fighting isis and the regime, if kobani falls to isis. That means the territory is also partitioned. Thank you again so much for that. Chris. Well turn it over to you. All right, mik, lets physical out why its going on. With us we are retired colonel colonel and cnn anl analyst and a cnn commentator. Gentleman, thank you for being with us. We are getting more dots. This is barely representative of whats going on. In terms of the trending, lt. Col. What are we seeing and why . We are trying to focus on the targets we know are there. The problem is, in syria, there is no one on the ground we are working with. We are seeing these operations mentioned up on the Turkish Border. We can bomb into the vicinity. We cant bomb on the front lines. Once you have troops, theyre much too close unless you have someone positively controlling those airstrikes. Which we dont v. We have that in iraq. We dont have that here. We will discuss the why in a few montz. We see more hits up their in aleppo. Remember, this was the origination of u. S. Of only strikes against a group khorasan. More there, more refineries. What does that mean . This tells me we hit everything the first time. This was a restrike. Tray went back to hit what they didnt get the first time. They decided not enough damage was done with those strikes. Lets go back and hit those. The refineries. As we detect these mobile and makeshift labs, they take them out. Up here, whats going on up here, sometimes we are fascinated with whats going on because we can actually see i. Right. There is nothing about koboni that is particularly important. The idea that, oh, its right here. Theyre just about to go into turkey and the kurds are desperate for help. How do we understand that situation . Its a tremendous dilemma for the United States. On the one hand the kurds have been our best allies and potentially if syria as well. On the other hand theyre big doging this, turkey the allie we are trying to draw fwloo this fight. Which has the ilice and the army that can deal a significant blow to isis is very, very concerned this war with lead to turkish independence, it could mean to succession within turkey. were trying to balance on the one hand the allies we have the kurds, with not alienateing turkey, whose support we need. These go handinhand the kurds, you said you were going to talk to us, hey, we cant just bomb and there are no coordinated airstrikes. There is no infrastructure. People dont understand how you actually support the ground from the air. What is missing . Well, whats missing is someone on the ground laizeing the targets or designating them with smoke. Some way to control where the bombs will be dropped. Otherwise. Once have you troops from contact, you will cause tremendous amounts of friendly casualties, that we dont want. It goes to boots oak. Thats what this debate is about. Will you put u. S. Troops in close contact on the front leans so you can have more effective airstrikes, but that will put them in harms way. People will say, that cant work. Thats what we did in afghanistan some years ago with a northern alliance. That proved very effective there. It was very effective. If you get a handful of special operations troops in there that know how to call in airstrikes, they can be very effective. Bus they can leverage all of the ordinances flying around in the sky and put it wage where the bombs ned to go. We can stop this advance. We dont have people there. All right t. Big concern is who is there to do it . Thats really why turkey is so important. People arent going to understand the capabilities. How big and powerful is their military . Lets look at the Turkish Armed forces, they are the sixth largest in the world. When you talk about nato, theyre second to the United States. The United States is spread out world wide. Turkey is the big gorilla. If you stack them up next to na that. The next largest forces are germany, france, the united kingdom. Turkey surpasss all three combined. So if they want to roll through, they could t. Obvious yes is why not, why havent we gotten turkey on board the coalition . Its right on their border. Shouldnt they care . Its decisive because its on their border. They are worried about retaliation from isis. They are worried about the kurdish Succession Movement involved in their own country and over the past couple years, turkeys primary concern has been assad. They have taken a position we should focus on assad first then deal with these jihadist militants. The u. S. Is trying to flip that around. The turks are worried, they have been very hostile to assad from the beginning and are worried they could end up strengthen him. Theyre watching whats going on across the border. They say isis is a threat to us and to baghdad, but isis right now is not are a threat to turkey. Its taking its toll. When they perceive its a threat to turkey. Then theyll act. Well, that actually happened. It looks more likely today. You have to give the Obama Administration some credit. I dont think a few weeks ago, most thought it would be on the verge of a coalition that had shyia iraq, governments like saudi, which are very, very hostile to the muslim brotherhood. Remember, turkey supports the brotherhood. There is a deep divide between turkey and saudi arabia over this question about the muslim brother to be able to coalition both shia and sunni and sunni countries pro and antimuslim brotherhood were deeply quite a remarkable accomplishment. What it means oak is a different question. Diplomatically, its pretty impressive. Its early to see whats going on, on the ground is getting much more support from the American People t. Polls were saying, however, this is still you have to remember the easy part. All these mix and these machinations you guys are talking about, much hard forward achieve. Leiutenant colonel, thank you so much for joining us. So much complexity there. We want to turn now to another situation of tension happening right now, riot police in hong kong remain on guard as protesters pack the streets in a prodemocracy movement. They pack the streets. They remain vocal. Even though the riot police have pulled back. Organizers are accusing police of using heavyhanded attacks on the crowd. Good to have you. Give us an idea of what the situation is on the ground. It looks like you are in the midst of those demonstrators. Reporter absolutely, mikaela, look at this sea of humanity these demonstrators who have occupied the main highway that runs through hong kong, through the city, through the financial hub. They have paralyzed traffic during what should be rush hour traffic, people trying to get home from work and all because this overwhelmingly young crowd of demonstrators is demanding more democracy, more freedom. They are standing up, not only to the government here in this former british colony of hong kong, but also standing up through the Ruling Communist Party that governs and controls not only hong kong but also mainland china. And saying they want true free and Fair Elections in 2017. Early this morning, late last night, this crowd was being tear gassed. But they came back and they stayed here. The riot police have pulled back and these kids are saying they wont leave until they get what they ask for. Mikaela. All right, ivan. I mean, that sea of humanity as far as your camera can show us, unbelievable. Remarkable, another area pushing for democracy and political reform. Thank you for being on the ground to give us a sense of what is hang. Certainly, a lot going on in the news today as always, Christine Romans is here with the headlines. Good morning, everybody, it is monday. Lets go to Chicago First where the faa says it will take weeks to get that air Traffic Control center back online. Officials hope to have it repaired and back to full service by october 13th. About 3600 flights have been delayed or cancelled since friday at ohare after an air traffic employee apparently set the fire before a suicide attempt. Afghanistan has a new president this morning. He has taken the oath of office in the countrys first peace transition of power since the fall of the taliban in 2001. He succeeds hamid karzai after a threemonth standoff over disputed Election Results t. U. S. Brokered a compromise allowing the runnerup to assume a tough diplomatic post. Jury selection begins this morning in the sentencing phase of jodi arias murder trial. She has already been found guilty for the shooting and stabbing death of her boyfriend travis alexander. The original jury was dead locked. Arias needs one voter to vote against the Death Penalty to have her life spared. Its a girl for Chelsea Clinton. She welcomed a baby girl. Friday, new york city the first child for clinton and her husband mark and the first grandchild for the former president and secretary of state. Chelsea clinton close not to find out the babys gender until she gave birth. Mom, dad, beaming grandparents are said to be doing well. She said, there are so few mysteries where the answer is a good thing. Avoid a boy or a girl. Throws some happy grandparents. The second most special little girl born recently. We have another one. Se celia. What a beautiful name. Baby baldwin, shes here. Well shes not here. Shes here. Right here. Right now, theyre at home probably watching. Oh, we have new information for you about that oklahoma man accused of beheading a female coworker. Charges could be filed within hours against a 30yearold. We will tell you about the incident now the Police Believe may have been what triggered the madness. A horrifying situation there. Also in japan, dozens of bodies left stranded by a volcano in japan. Why search crews have been ordered to stay away from that scene for now. We will tell you why. You need to see this. Show em the curve. Do you know what this means . The greater the curvature, the bigger the difference. [scifi tractor beam sound]. Sucked me right in. Its beautiful. Gotta admit one thing. Cant beat the view. Introducing the worlds first curved Ultra High Definition Television from samsung. Prosecutors are accused of beginning a trial against a man who was beheaded. Alton nolan went on a bloody rampage after he was fired from his job. This is such a disturbing tale. Its a very disturbing tale. Investigators right now are trying to understand what drew alton nolan to islam and whether he may have been inspired by the terror group isis. Whether the attack may have been premed traited. New details are emerging against the man accused of beheading a food worker at an Oklahoma Food Processing Plant last week. People that knew him said they were stunned. He was a normal person. Reporter they say 30yearold alton nolan is going to be charged with first degree murder and assault with a deadly weapon. He went on a night spree after being fired at vaughan foods. Police say he recently converted to islam and tried to convert his woe workers. Members at his mosque describe him as quiet. You can tell he was different from everyone else. As far as violence, we never saw it coming. Reporter his boss was shot twice and the ceo a reserved deputy with the Oklahoma County sheriffs office, shots fired recorded in this 911 call. It sound like hes running around out there. And thats a gunshot. Reporter other disturbing details coming to light, a beheading posted on his Facebook Page under the alias jah keem. They wonder if it could have been influenced by muslim extremism. My son was raised up in a loving home. Reporter in this video, who women who say theyre relatives come to his defense. Theres two sides to every story and were only larrying one. Reporter Oklahoma Police reveal nolan has a lengthy rap sheet. In 2010 he got into a state trooper in this traffic stop. She made this chilling statement to cnn. If there would have been anyway to know he would have done what he did a couple days ago, i would have killedle him when i had the opportunity. They say alton nolan had aggression issues and had been incarcerated. He appeared to turn his life around. However, it simply didnt happen. It is unclear whether the attack is premed tatd or he was acting out t. Women he killed, we have to keep that in mind, 50yearold colleen herford, her family is groveing her loss. There is another woman recovering from stab wounds. This is very, very serious. This is a crime of opportunity. He simply walked in and attacking the people. They were not targeted. He walked in and began attacking the first people he saw. The second he walked through that door. Its tragic. They will have to make traumatic events, to witness, to be around. Its called horrifying. It is, also i have to think about it. Beheading somebody is an intensely personal crime. Its not somebody that can deal with a gun. There is an intimacy to it. So that, too, is problematic. That is a horrifying story to learn details about. Thank you for that. All right t. Search for more than 20 missing hikers has been suspended in central japan after a deadly volcano eruption killed dozens of people on saturday. Rescue crews are now being ordered to stay away from that scene this morning. There is a man hunt under way in ferguson, missouri. Yep, that ferguson. This time the attention is for a gunman who wounded a Police Officer. Is this incident anyway connected to the shooting death of Michael Brown. Thats the obvious speculation. We will get into whether or not there is any basis for it. That sounds crazy, i know. But my mom got migraines, so she knew this would help. Amal a malalamuddin alamuddin. Amal. Charlotte Clinton Mezvinsky mezvinsky. Chelsea clinton chelsea. To him llama new abc reporter llamas. Bernese dawn dahn. Leberias chief medical officer in quarantine 21. Lets go to Christine Romans. There is a lot of news to tell you about. A lot of news, president obama admitting u. S. And intelligence officials underestimated, in an interview last night he acknowledged the intelligent actions overestimated iraqs ability to stand up to the terror group. Airstrikes continue throughout the weekend in Northern Syria and iraq. Meanwhile, a new cnn orc pom shows three out of four americans approve of the air campaign against isis. Government Officials Say they have withdrawn riot streets from the streets riot police from the streets of hong kong. Look at those crowds, huge crowds began filling the streets saturday, becoming the target of police swinging batons and firing tear gas. Student led prodemocracy protests in beijing have too much influence in a local election. A u. S. Marine who has been in a mexican prison for six months has another hearing today. Its argument andrews fourth hearing on weapons charges. A house subcommittee will take up his case in d. C. His mother reportedly says her son is losing hope he will be released. He insists he crossed the border by mistake. A truck used to treat Breast Cancer in a Clinical Trial appears to prolong lives. Researchers say patients who used the drug survived on average nearly 15 months longer than those who did not. Researchers say thats the longest extension for a drug treating brefrt cancer that Breast Cancer that spread to other parts of the body there. You often find out a drug has an unintended application. Hopefully, this is one of those. We turn now to japan where a somber recovery in the central part of that nation is following after terrifying volcanic eruption. Crews began lifting bodies oust of the summit after a surprise eruption from that voke. However, that operation has now been suspended because of dangerous gases present. We are joined with the latest. Will. Reporter mikaela, just within the past few minutes, a team of japanese government investigators arrived here. That i are taking satellite photos. We can expect to see more investigators in this area near japans second highest volcano trying to learn more about the eruption and physical out why there was absolutely for the advanced warning in a country with some of the most advanced seismic Detection Technology in the world. There were hundreds of hikers over the weekend taking in the peek autumn viewing season when all of a sudden the mountain blew its top killing 36 people, 12 bodies have been identified. Another two dozen are sitting up there on that mountain right now. Rescue crews are not able to get to them. They were hiking through ash up to their knees but they had to turn back because of the dangerous conditions up there. There was even ash raining. Gus on our live location here. We had to wear these masks. At times it looked almost like he was snowing. People had protective helmets on, we are there is a chance we are told of a larger eruption in this area in the coming days. Meanwhile, so much waiting for these families sleeping on floors in local Evacuation Centers waiting to learn about the fate of their loved ones. Such grief there and again you say concern about further seismic activity. Will, stay safe. Bring us the latest when you can. Thank you. My tie today, it looks like 80 of my other ties, no, it is blue and white. Yankee pinstripes for a reason. Derek jeters historic career has come to an end. Playing asense the sox at fenway stadium yesterday afternoon. He showed a lot of class, those red sox fans. They certainly did, chris. Ill not a fan like you, i spread a sports tear watching this. Derek jeter taking the field for the final time. Be tfr game the red sox showered him with a few more retirement gifts, including a custom made respect fenway placard. In his 2nd at bat of the game, jeter hits this chopper. Its an rbi single. That would be the final hit of jeters career. He comes out of the game to a standing ovation. The fenway faithful chanting derek jeter then thank you, jeric. J jeters mom in the fans. You want to be known that someone that had respect for the game, respect for the teammates. Respect for the fans, respect for the media, played the game lard, but for me im happy to be known as a yankee. Thats all i wanted to be. I had an opportunity to do that for parts of 20 years. So being remembered as a yankee is good enough for me. The nationals are headed into the postseason. George zimmerman was on his game. Striking out ten. One out away from a nohitter when this ball is going to get shot into left center field. It looked like it was going to drop, but steven suza out of nowhere makes an incredible hit. I say he owes him a steak dinner for that one. Turning on to bleacher report. Com, last nights nfl game the cowboys absolutely destroyed the saints. Tony romo and his surgically repaired back looked just fine. He threw for three touchdowns. The leading rusher, he ripped through the defense, cowboys 3817. Guys, back to basketball. Postseason tomorrow in our sister network, the First Time Since 1993 both the yankees and red sox missed the playoffs. So not a lot of big fish in this years postseason. But interesting stories. You got teams like the royals and the pirates trying to get back to the world series for the first time in a long time. You guys are so happy. There is a plethora of sports. Hockey is in preseason, baseball, basketball. The only drag. Gus is of course the jets are playing, which means that there is nothing but misery at this point. They did not look good. Andy just said in case you missed it. He was whipping along there, they tore through the saints like me with a binyet on bourbon street. A strong reference. If you go to noernts, its bad news,en extra ten pounds when i come home. You look good, kid. You look good. Thank you very much. We are also going to be talking to you about these protests going on the ferguson, because theyre not the only problem anymore. Yes. You have to focus on that. There is now a man hunt under way for a gunman who shot a Police Officer. Not the only event recently. Is the city about to erupt again . We will take you to it and through it. A new report about a terrifying shooting at the white house. Was one of the president s daughters in harms way . Well take a look coming up. Ferguson, missouri must be on your map. Yes, more protests overflight some two months after Michael Browns death. However, there is Something Else going on there that matters. The man hunt under way for a gunman that shot a Police Officer in the arm over the weekend. Lets go live. Stephanie the obvious question is do they believe there is a connection with Michael Brown in this . Reporter well, chris, that itself the most noteworthy part of this police dont believe either shooting had anything to do with the protest surrounding mike browns death. However, it shows tensions are still running very high in this town. Anger and distrust of police in ferguson is reaching dangerous new levels after two Police Officers were shot in separate incidents within hours of each other saturday night. First a ferguson Police Officer shot while conducting a building check of the Ferguson Community center. He got out of his cruiser to question a pale subject t. Pan ran and the officer gave chase. The suspect then fired shots, hitting the officer in the arm. As angry crowds gathered at the scene, captain ron johnson made this appeal to keep the calm. What i got to say is our Police Officers been show. I will ask you to leave. I will only ask you one time. These are our streets. These aint your streets. These are our streets. Reporter the incident striking a nerve. The city still reeling from weeks of violent unrest from the shooting death of unarmed teen ageer Michael Brown. Is this related to the protest . I dont think it did. It didnt happen in the protest area. This is an area thats fairly secluded and i wouldnt have any reason to believe right now it was linked in anyway, shape, mane or form with the protest. Reporter three hours later, a drive by shooting with an off duty officer, not in uniform, driving his personal vehicle. He passed him on interstate 70 and opened fire t. Officer suffered minor injuries and broken glass. Police are unsure whether he was targeted or the victim of a random act of violence, no suspects have been caught. I am truly sorry for the loss of your son. I am sorry it took so long to remove michael from the streets. Reporter the shooting comes days after jackson apologized to Michael Browns parents and the community hoping for a fresh start in ferguson. What are we going to do to get justice . The whole ferguson the whole city is in an uproar. Reporter jackson, instead, faced enfurated crowds. And, chris, i was out here friday night until 11 00 at night. It seemed to be more journalists than protesters. Saturday you saw more people out here. It go es to show the situation here in ferguson is fluid and each fight brings a different story. Stephanie, thank you very much. Obviously, any connection there will be investigated. No matter whether its related or not, there are troubles in ferguson that need to be addressed. We will stay on the story. Let under the circumstances turn to weather right now. It is the beginning of a new week. What does the forecast hold for us . Rain for some folks. Its beautiful in the northeast. If are you in the southeast, thanks, to a stationary front. It rained, it rained. Today, a stationary front. Still in place out through florida. More showers are expected into the region. Concern there for flooding today. Flood advisories across the area. We are talking two to four inches of rain, some places six, possibly seven inches of rain locally. That is a concern in a place that has seen so much rain. Too much rain, thain i rain they cannot handle. Find out went or so, light showers will be in play. They are monitoring that. The big story is a system making its way out of the rockies. All this cool air will bring potential for Severe Weather headed out towards the rockies. What it will bring for the rest of us is that cool air will start sliding to the east. So much so you are talking about a 30 degree temperature drop, yes, its the upper midwest today, thats one day, i will take uday by day, you can actually see the grown, watch this as it makes it through tomorrow. The midwest sees those temperatures, notice, chicago goes. Gus to the 60s. The concern there is wednesday into thursday. Showers can be more delays. Delays they do not mean from last friday. That cool air eventually makes its way through the northeast here by the end of the week. It was so nice, with eget one more day of it. Because its officially fall right now. I want to remind people of that. Its officially fall. I want to remind that. Canada changed you . It did. As always. Thanks, so much. Up in concerns this morning about White House Security after a disturbing report about a gunman who opened fire back in 2011 putting the president s family at risk. It is leaving them wondering if the secret service is asleep at the wheel. Tmobiles network has more data capacity than verizon or at t. Its a network designed differently. A Network Designed Data strong. Welcome brack do flu day. Details emerge about a 2011 shooting at the white house. The Washington Post reports that it took secret service four days to realize that seven bullets had hit the upstairs residence of the white house while the president and motherinlaw and daughters were inside. This comes on the heels of several security incidents, including one where an intruder raced inside. If you want to bring in ronald kessler. He is an Investigative Reporter and author of the detail where he published some of this incident before the Washington Post. Thank you for joining us this morning. My pleasure. In your book, you detail so many events of this incident. I think many of us are wondering how on earth it could have taken the secret service four days to realize that seven shots hit and some entered the white house. And the Washington Post claimed it as a skoechlt as you say it was in my book and it goes back to a really rotten management culture that is based on arrogance. That is what connects all of these scandals. The management promotes agents who dont point out deficiencies and so the way to get ahead is to cover up. Its just safer. And, therefore, the, for example, the uniformed officers who led this into the white house, even though they were not on the guest list felt it was safer to let them in as opposed to possibly upsetting the white house. In the case of the gunshots, the uniformed officer who reported the gunshots felt Service Safer she not heard them even though a supervisors overruled her. In the case of the white house intrusion recently, it was safer for the uniformed officers to not take out that intruder carrying a knife and went into the white house, even though he could have had an explosive or unleashed weapons of pass destruction. So the agents who perpetuate the myth that the secret service is inkrins i vincible are the ones that get ahead. That is understood. Those who dont do that who point out problems are literally punished. And that is goes back to really the safety of the president who keeps insisting there is no problem in the secret service. Michelle obama in the Washington Post was angry at the secret service over the fact that they did not detect gunshots. Right. Right. Yet the president does nothing. I want to talk to you about that in a second. We understand the first lady and the president understandably were quite livid about this situation. I want to talk about this. You talk about it being an issue of culture. I want to also understand if this is a question, too, of our men and women in the secret service who are charged with protecting the president of the United States rand the propertys family, are they given enough tools and resources to adequately do their job. For example, in the incident in 2011 and even from this late effort incident, one has to wonder if the tools for under surveillance were readily available to them . Absolutely not. The secret service is absolutely crumbling as a part of this culture, they have the attitude we make do with less they are proud of not spending money. In the case of the gunshots, for example the secret service should have devices to detect gunshots the d. C. Police have that. But the secret service doesnt. On and on they cut correspondent, theyre not keeping up to date with the latest under surveillance devices, they will let people into events without screening or metal detection screening under pressure from white house staffs. Are you at all convinced that the president and the first lady and his motherinlaw and their children that theyre safe inside the white house . They are not safe. Absolutely not t. Agents i talked to say its a miracle that there has not been an assassination so fayou know, it seems they need a major overhaul, what they need is a new director from the outside that is not a part of this culture. Somehow, president obama really recklessly disregards all the warning signs, keeps defending the secret service. Yesterday you had tonplanca, ths the only way we will have a clang is with an assassination. You know that tony blanken tried to put things in perspective saying the task that the secret service and the burden they bear in incredible and the newish director is looking into the incident. But you believe that these changes are not enough that more fundamental changes need to come . You know, the director always said, im reviewing this, there will be hearings. Nothing will happen. Thats not the way you change any organization. You change the organization by bringing in a new ceo, not beholden to the interests, not a part of the culture, who will shake things up as bob mueller did when he became the fbi director. So this is a colossal lack of management on the part of president obama. Because he is the one at risk here. He is the only one that can do anything about it. He has the ultimate power to change things there for his family and obviously for the white house and his administration. Ronald kessler, thank you, check out his book, the first family detail. There it is on your screen right now. Certainly following a whole lot of news this morning. Lets get to it. I think they underestimated what had been taking la is in syria. It could take two weeks to restore full service to chicagos fire damaged air Traffic Control center. There appears to be a fire set by a contract employee. There is no terrorist act. My lungs were tired of all the coughing. He started coughing. I noticed he was getting blue around his mouth. The symptoms of the enterovirus and the cold stim symptoms will be the same. Severe wheezeing. Some need supplemental oxygen. Good morning, welcome back to new day. The president says intelligent actions underestimated the extremist itself and over estimated iraqs willing and ability to fight them in this candid 60 minutes interview. No one is more surprised to hear this than intelligence officials. Well get into it. They pound isis in Northern Syria and iraq. Strikes three out of four americans report according to a new cnn orc poll. However, the president s Approval Rating is low. Michelle ka sin ski ha kosinski reporter openly acknowledging now, yes, the u. S. Absolutely underestimated isis in the past while overestimating the ability and will of the locals to fight it. They were able reconstitute themselves and take advantage of that chaos and attract foreign fighters who believed in their jihadist nonsent and nonsense and traveled everywhere to australia, other parts, convergeing on syria. So this became ground zero for jihadist itself around the world. So the president says the u. S. Continues to be the one to lead this effort because america has the unique capacity to do so. So how do americans feel about that . This new cnn orc poll shows 73 approve of the airstrikes but about that same number also feels that it is likely the u. S. Will end up having to send in Ground Troops and fewer, only 61 feel confident that the u. S. Will succeed in its goal of degrading and defeating isis. Some other interesting numbers in there show that more americans now than a few weeks ago feel confident and approving of how things are going in there country and how president obama is handling isis. But those numbers are still very low, less than half and more than half now, 51 , say they dont trust president obama as commanderinchief. Chris. All right. Michelle, thank you very much. Now, we are joined by republican senator john mccain. Very good to be with you. Let me play you a little sound here from the 60 minutes interview and get your reaction. Are you saying this is not really a war . What im saying is that we are assisting iraq in a very real battle thats taking place on their soil, with their troops, but we are providing air support and it is in our interests to do that because isil represents sort of a hybrid of not just a terrorist network but one with territorial ambitions and so some of the strategy and tactics of an army. This is not america against isil. Senator are we at war . Of course. We r. Its not america against isil. Maybe he believes that. This is isil against america. When mr. Baghdadi left our prison and spent four years and said ill see you in america. All you have to do is watch what theyre saying. I am again just puzzled by the president , some of his statements for example, he left behind a stable iraq. We have predicted exactly what would happen. The intelligence comments he made. The intelligence people are pushing back hard. We predicted this and watched it. It was like watching a train wreck and warning every step of the way because a residual force would have stabilized the situation and, of course, maybe had a break on malachi. It is a direct result of our failure to leave a residual force behind and when they say we couldnt. They are not telling the truth. I was over there with Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman and we know it for a fact. So this here idea that somehow we didnt foe that this was happening, of course we knew it. We saw it happening. Does the president deserve a little credit for being on your side, hold on a sec, when it comes to syria, he did say in an interview right after he was with us, hey, we need to bomb syria. As you know, congress pushed back on him and said, no, you cant do it. Does he deserve some credit for identifying the threat . Yes, he was identifying assad. There are so many inner connections. Any credit . No, because two years ago when his National Security team top level people, secretary of state, secretary of defense, and head of the cia recommended arming the Free Syrian Army, he overhooul ruled them. If we had armed them then the situation on the ground would be dramatically different now. And by the way, christians, i want to mention, they want to train 5,000 Free Syrian Army in saudi arabia and send them back. But are we going to do anything about basra assads air attack . Dropping these horrible air bombs on them . Are we going to ask young men to train and equip and be slaughtered by basra assads air power . We need a nofly zone. What happens if he breaches it . Its his country . We take on his air force. You want to take on assad at the same time as isis . Assad in my view is responsible for 192,000 syrians dead. There are 150,000 syrians in his prison. He uses barrel bombs and chemical weapons. He is wage supported by the iranians who changed the whole momentum on the battlefield. Of course, are you going to ask these young people, by the way, were going to train and equip you. You will fight against isis, not against assad, its not only unwork about. Its immoral. You dont have any kind of authorization along those lines, its not the president s fault. If this is a war the American People by the way dont think we are at war. There is so much confusing political messages, but congress would declare war. Congress would give the authorization. They wont even come home and vote on this. They wont come back. I have said repeatedly, its an act of cowardice on the part of congress. They didnt want to vote before the election. So i totally agree with you. The president can act. Under the war powers act. Against assad . Absolutely. He can act against assad. Why shouldnt he . If were going to train people. Basra assad is responsible for the deaths of nearly 200,000 people. Millions who are refugees. It is, he is one of the great war criminals there is. For us to sit by and say we are only going to fight isis and not help these people against the guy slaughtering them when isis was nothing to speak of. What do you say to the American People . 70 say we dont want any more war. We are war wary. Boka haram has all those girls we cared about for a while. Can you pick a lot of differ situations. I would have gone after boka haram and i think a lot of the American People would have supported a special op exercise. I dont know of anybody who wouldnt. But i think the big point is here comparing boka haram and what basra assad has done is like there is no comparison and the fact is that this guy is an enemy of the United States of america. This is a struggle. Congress told obama the president , not to do it. He never asked for it. He never came and asked for it. He probably wouldnt have gotten it. But he said he was going to strike syria. Right. And without congress and then decided he was going to go to congress and he never asked, even. But so, is it fair. That doesnt leave much of a benefit of a doubt to congress. They knew, you knew, you could have came together. Declaring war is your job, not his. He has to come to congress to ask for it to start w. First of all he said he was going to bomb without u. S. That was a signal he sent through the middle east. One reason we have so little credibility and then he decided he was going to come to congress cand saw he didnt have the votes. I would have loved to have been on record for a vote on that. I would have been very happy about this. Air power alone does not win wars. I was in one when they tried. That air power alone, we will have to have boots on the ground if were really going to succeed. Who . We. In other words. U. S. Boots. There is u. S. Boots on the ground right now in iraq. But fighting . Theyre supposed to be advising. Not fighting. To be there in advisory. Isis wiped out the boundary between iraq and syria. What is the difference between it now . They are larger than the state of indiana. So for us to say, well, and our british friends, well bomb them in iraq but not in syria. Why . There is no boundary anymore. Isis goes back and forth between. In fact. Now, that i will go into the populated areas. And you just, you can take out buildings with air power without people identifying those targets and directing it. But you are not going to be able to win by just bombing from the air and i think any military expert will tell you that. A big part of the problem. It sounds like a change. Its connected. The big problem connection between the president and the legislature, congress, being on the same page. Bringing it back home. The peoples agenda. We are now looking for an attorney general. The expectation is you will block. Whoever he butts up. You will block. You wont get an attorney general. I dont think thats necessarily true. I would be glad to consider. I think election versus consequences, i know that very well. I dont think that we would just block necessarily anybody. Thats whats been happening to the president to be honest. Lets remember harry reid blue up the senate. They only need 51 votes. So they have been getting everybody through. Do you think that will clang . Absolutely. What theyve done is theyve made the United States senate, theyve changed it from the unique role that a minority can play in the political process by making it just 51 votes. But going back to if the president explained to the American People whats at stake here and whats happening and already americans are now supporting airstrikes, according to. I think the American People would be supported if they can see a concrete plan and as we used to say light at the end of the tunnel. But if its just going to be some more airstrikes and its going to drag out and track out and drag out, then over time the American People will not support it, chris. By the way, we were war wary after world war ii, we went to korea, we were war wary a lot of times. If the American People are told whats at stake when our intelligence people say that isis is a direct threat to the United States of america, then i think they will support the president. We need to have you back, senator, the next part of this conversation is, well, the American People have been told this isnt their war. This is about an existential threat to the middle east. They are supposed to help. Switching the definition will take time and convinceing. The American People arent hearing it right now. Thank you for being a strong voice. Hopefully you will be back and continue the conversation. Chris. Thanks. We want to turn to chicago now t. Faa now says it will take weeks to get the citys fir damaged air Traffic Control center back online. More than 3600 flights have been delayed or even canceled at ohare and at midway since friday. Lions are snowflakeing through the airpo snakeing through the area. They can give us an idea of how traffic is flowing and more about the mental state of this person before this all came to beio. Yeah, first, things are slow going. If you are traveling, calm ahead. 60 of the planes leaving ohare that ohare is only moving at a 60 clip. Midway airport about 75 and of course when there are problems at a major airport in this country, there are problems across the country. Basically, the faa has to rebuild a Communications Center outside of chicago from the ground up. Some equipment came in. They are working 24 7 to get that up. They say it may not be fully operational for another two weeks. Oother centers are chipping in to help out there. As for the person accused of doing this, 36yearold dan howard, he remains hospitalized. Apparently, according to friends and the affidavit filed in federal court, he showed up to work where he had security clearance. He worked inside there transmission center. He showed up with gasoline in a suitcase he posted on facebook he was going to kill himself and take out the Communications Center before he did it. He did survive his self inflicted wounds. He is still hospitalized. The bottom lean, if you are traveling today or this week, calm ahead, because this is still a problem. The investigation continues. Of course, you tell us about the traveled nightmares there. I was in calgary over the weekend. Even those flights all the way in western canada were affected. This has a triple. Gus ripple effect. Trickle. Gus . Either way. Its all bad right now. All bad. A lot of headlines, obviously, Christine Romans is taking care of that. Good morning. Lets go to hong kong, tens of thousands opropheters, riot police have pulled back and are urging people to leave t. Demonstrators have shown no signs of letting up. They are accusing police of heavyhanded tactics. Studentled demonstration with beijings attempts to interfere with local elections. Murder charges against a man accused of beheading a female coworker in moore, oklahoma. Alton nolan recently converted to islam. He was trying to convince his colleagues to do the seam before he was fired from a Food Processing plant. He allegedly killed his coworker before he was shot by an armed manager at the plant. People back in the u. S. , this unidentified patient is now in isolation at the National Institutes of health in maryland t. Virus has now officially killed more than 3,000 people. It is vastly underestimated. Oscar winner George Clooney is a bachelor no more. He and human rights lawyer am a aamal alamuddin. It took me so long to get back from that wedding. I cant believe i made it here in that time. Enjoy. Enjoy. A lot of serious news to talk about as well. This serious beheading. Lets get back to that, this increased terrorist chatter. The question is obvious. Could this isis style terror hit home in the u. S. . We will speak with former homeland secretary tom ridge about how the nation can protect itself. How much money do you have in your pocket right now . I have 40, 21. Could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement . I dont think so. Well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years, that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. When folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. A threat from isis very real. How big is the threat at home . Foreign fighters carrying out such attacks here. According to news, cnn or a c poll, more than half of americans believe it is more likely now we have begun terror strikes against isis. Joining me now is tom ridge, the former government of pennsylvania and homeland cooperate nator. Good to join you. Ill pass on your hellos to chris in a moment. Thanks, so much. I want to talk about this pom. Its interesting to see that almost 50 of americans believe a terrorist attack is more likely now that we have attacked isis. First there may be a correlation. Isis declared war on us when they beheaded the First American and the series of beheadings. The Khorasan Group and al qaeda indicated post911 america is in the crosshairs. So the concern issed to probably greater than it was right after 911. These terror groups, there are more of them. One of the things they discovered after 911, with very few dollars they can well be right back after okay. The lone wolf or the former isis soldier working back into western europe or the United States is a real problem. You have to accept it as it is. We look at this horrifying situation in oklahoma. This young man beheading this woman, a colleague at a plant he had just been let go from. We dont know if there was a link. Thatry investigating a link or tie to isis. There was some sort of inspiration. That is effectively terrorism in its own right. I do believe we need to learn more about this individual whether he is an ideologue with Severe Health problems that latched on to that mindset and used it as a rational for his horrific behavior. At the end of the day i think one of the broader challenges we have, given the apurture has opened wider, in order for us to defend ourselves as effectively as we possibly can. Now is the time for the alphabet agencies and fbi and everybody else to share more information with the state and locals. You cannot secure this country from inside the beltway. Offense we are doing overseas. Defense you play here. We have to make sure the federal government when it gets reliable information shares it timely, in a timely way with the state and local partners of law enforcement. Most of us learned of this al qaeda affiliate khorasan last week. This Administration Says they are concerned they are plotting an imminent threat against the u. S. Or europe. They later clarified it as an imminent threat with no known target. Im curious, given the fact that you have your history with homeland security, how serious of a threat do you believe they pose or will pose . I think any al qaedarelated organization is potentially a threat. Whether or not they have the capability to deliver on that promised threat remains to be seen. I think we have to be very realistic about this. Not breathlessant this. This is a permanent condition of the 21st century world. We are seeing it play out unfortunately across too many instances and too many countries. That is why i go back to the original premise i shared with you. Now it is more important than ever before. We get away from the cold war mentality when the federal government says we will share information when we think you need to know it. We need to know it now. Thats one of the challenges for this and the future federal government sharing more information with the folks at the local level so they can help defend their own families and communities. You cant do it from inside watching. I want to talk about the importance of language will segue to my next question here. I know you have been very blunt and opened about declaring this a war with isis. We know the president who was at this just the other night, i want to play this out and get your reaction. This is how the president answered the question. Are you saying there is not really a war . What im saying is we are asithing iraq in a very real battle takes place on their soil with their troops. But we are providing air support. Its in our interest to do that because isil represents sort of the hybrid of not just the terrorist network but one with territorial ambitions and the strategy and tactic itself of an army. This is not an america against isil. Secretary, how do you le spond . Listen the president is a very able man. He uses words very carefully. I think its just too nuanced to be viewed by america to be accurate. Isis made the great missouri they werent beheaded in the United States. They declared war. Why were they beheaded . Because they were americans. As the men and women overseas fighting these terrorists are at war. We august to accept that and forget the war games that we are playing and accept that reality. We will leave it there thank you so much, sir. Thank you so much wmpblts le take a look in a rare exclusive interview with two men who have not with the terror group. Can you start to feel the heat. Five weeks until Midterm Elections. Key races are heeding up in the playing states. John king has all this and more inside politics right after the break. Big day . Welcome back to new day. Lets go to ris teen romans. A new day, a new week. Lets look at the headlines, the United States underestimated isis and overestimated the ability of the iraqi army to fight the extremist group. That admission from president obama in an interview with cbs. He says the chaos of the civil syrian war allowed isis to go underground and get stronger. Bengalsmen netanyahu addresses t to the war crimes and genocide during the latest gaza conflict. The u. S. Denounced the comments as counterproductive. Volunteers will resume tear search today for a realtor who misterriously vanished after showing a home in arkansas. Beverly carter went missing thursday. Her car was still parked outside that house she was showing when her husband reported her missing. Police issued an arrest warrant for a person in connection. They havent said how the two are linked. Terrifying video out of the netherlands, a warning to you this morning. This is disturbing what we are about to show you. A deadly accident as a monster truck plows into onlookers. It drove over a row of parked cars and could not stop. Three people are dead. More than a dozen other are hurt. Organizeers believe the trucks gas pedal may have gotten stuck or the brakes failed. Clearly terrifying video oust of the netherlands. Oh my goodness, they were so close to the action there. How horrifying. It is terrible. All right. It is time for inside politics on new day. John, i heard you were going to be with us. Now are you just in a box. Couldnt take the heat, could you . I got afraid of new york. I couldnt take the heat, exactly right. Lets go inside politics, five weeks to election day. With me to show the insights, lets start with our new brandnew cnn orc poll numbers. In a Midterm Election, you watch the president standing with the American People. When it comes to airstrikes, look at this, 73 favor the Airstrikes Campaign under way. 24 approve. Let start and stop there for a second, mollie, in a second that almost everything that happens becomes polarizedle. The president , as long as there are no Ground Troops on safe footing. I think we saw this before he acted as well, there was very large but qualified support for military action, right. People support the specific action. They do not support any broadening of the complex. Theyre worried thats what this is going to lead to. You see in this same poll a lot of people believe this is going to load to a wider war. They dont see it as a limited conflict. Theyre very leery of that. As we watch this play out. One of the interesting things, you scrub the poll to see where is the president moving. When it comes to how is he handling isis. We dont have a strategy yet. If you see now the approval disapproval numbers are getting better. 45 approve, 49 disapprove. Those numbers are getting better, jackie, his numbers on handling terrorism are getting better. Its very important in a Midterm Election year. How is the president handling his job . 44 approve his his job improvement. Its up a little bit. Why wont that budge . People might think its too little too late. There are so many things playing into this. This rally around the commanderinchief were not seing it this time. Independents support this action. Still skeptical of the president. Is there an out there on the campaign trail impact of this . Well, i think what we have seen in a lot of polls for the past year the president lost the confidence, lost the trust of people. Even if he does what they want. Maybe people see it as too little too late. When you have the president out there saying he underestimated this threat. That doesnt add to confidence, i dont think. There is a lot of talk on the campaign trail. There are a lot of Republican Senate candidates bludgeoning their democratic opponents saying there is terrorism out there. A lot of republicans believe when people are scared, they vote republican. I think that well see it that way reflected because when you look at this poll, people are still afraid of a terrorist attack. They think one is coming. So i think in that way. That anxiety. Something to keep an eye on, obviously for the good of the country. Five weeks from tomorrow the Midterm Election, one of the fascinating senate races is the republican versus a chance, a congressman, a democratic candidate, this race is going. Gus to the wire and the debate over the weekend. Heres one of the highlights. Im a bridge builder, not a bridge burner. Senator ernst has called president obama a dictator and thinks impeachment should be on the table. You threatened to sue a neighbor over a chicken that came on your property. Are you talking art bipartisanship. How do we expect as iowans to believe that you will work across the aisle when you cant walk across your yard . Interesting turn there on the all politics is local. He wants to make it about washington, shutting. Gus the government. She wants to make eight dispute with the neighbor over chickens. Why this race matters so much . Joanie ersnst is 34 pth. Bruce braley 38 . If those numbers are correct and this is breaking for the republican. If theyre going to win in iowa, i would guess if they win that iowa race they are winning the sixth for the United States senate. Maybe, maybe not. I think joni ernst is a strong personality. She largely has personal characteristics. The race hinged on so many little gasps braley, he has had a terrible campaign. My debate is i know what you are, but what am i. Its exciting back and forth. Youd almost think they were married. It is an interesting irony he is the one talking about washington when she is painting him as a beltway insideer. Its almost the middle. He goes back to the coke brothers, i dont think people care about outside walk. Thats another nasty ad. If theyre trying tof this walk centric narrative. Goes, its not working. Stop trying to make that happen. You raised a legitimate question if they are winning iowa, they are winning in ra lot of places because there are a number of querky races. Five weeks ago, one is the kansas city race, where pat roberts is the republican incumbent. The democrats have dropped off. You have a fascinating interview in the atlantic with mr. Orman, hes an interesting guy. He says hes an independent. He says if he wins, hell decide after he wins whether he comes to washington and talks with the democrats or republicans. I want to read one line, he wouldnt say whether he would have voted for the doddfrank financial reform bill or faces cap control. He laments more construction funding, when asked to raise the gas tax, he responds, we havent come out with a position, can he get away with that, five weeks to the campaign . Well see. Se evasive. Politicians are evasive. I dont think thats news for anyone. I sort of went to kansas to see, is thisgy for real . A lot of people dont support him. That is not a good sign. So orman is sort of in the right place at the right time. He is benefiting from the disillusion. From the incumbents on popularity, the fact that the democrats dropped out of the race. Is he sort of the receptacle of these factors . He is a substantive guy. He knows a lot about a lot of issues. He isnt taking positions on a lot of things, political may be smart. You do hear some voters, who support him, saying, well, hes kind of vague. Id like to know wr more where he stands. You have john mccain there, sarah palen. You have Jeb Burks Paul Ryan is going there. Theyre sending in heavy hitters to rally the base go throwing in the kitchen sink. The question is, as you make a good point. If republicans at the event are mad about their own guy and its passion, we could make i wake up or before we go to bed with an independent who wont say whether hes with the democrats or republicans, an unlikely scenario, dont give up on it. Thank you for coming in. Back to you guys in, no. In case you havent heard, folks, a Chelsea Clinton had her baby. The name is charlotte. Well, late night comics cant resist. It is a beautiful picture. Now, lets have a laugh. Congratulations to Chelsea Clinton who gave birth to a baby girl on friday. The new grandmother Hillary Clinton said she couldnt be happier unless the baby was a la tina in a swing state. Nothing i guess nothing is sacred, guys. Congratulations to chelsea and more fodder for late night guys. If there is anything it will be this im sure tray have so happy. Nothing like a few baby coming into a family. See you tomorrow. Heres a question, who would fight for a group like isis . Well, we have an answer for you, a rare look inside the Terror Organization. Two men speak exclusively to cnn about what its like to be an isis fighter. Parents out there. Put. Gus the coffee this scary respiratory virus is almost in all 50 states. Officials are worried it can cause paralysis in some kids. 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It does serve to provide a lot of information as to how isis manages to recruit individuals, why it is so far at least the Coalition Airstrikes have proven to be so ineffective. When Coalition Airstrikes blasted the isis strong hold of ra ka, they saw a target of opportunity. He called the only person he could trust. He was a relative. He was always telling many eto defect. Reporter defect from isis. He shaved his beard and crossed into turkey. Visibly anxious as we speak. Now wanted by all sides. The organization here refers to as the Islamic State he tells us relies heavily on foreign fighters. I dont see anything. The french. They have so much control. Theyre even more extreme than we are. They come from france, but its as if they have been a part of the Islamic State for years. And he says isis was well prepared for Coalition Airstrikes, moving their fighters and equipment. They almost entirely emptied out the headquarters him some equipment they hid in civilian neighborhoods, some they hid underground. We are interviewing him by skype, hes ran isis fighter in ra ka. But he wont speak wage to a him who. She asking the questions. Since the Coalition Air vioxx in syria, he says, isis band all communications from ra ka. With permission from his emir. He had traveled closer to the border with iraq, to be able access the internet for this interview. We have been ready for this for some time. We now our bases are known, theyre tracking us with radars and satellite. We have backup locations, we thought they knew everything. Thank god, they dont know anything. God willing. We will defeat the infidels. He says he was with the fighters who overran mosul and they knew how easy it would be to push out the iraqi army and siege their weapons and arm our, much of it american made. This thing was all planned and prepared. There was nothing by chance. It was all organized. They scoffed at the Oil Installations and other targets. We the Islamic State. We have revenue other than oil. We have other after knews and our finances are not going to stop just because of oil losses. They hit us in some areas. We advance in others. If we are pushed back if iraq. We advance in Northern Syria. These strikes cannot stop us, our support or our fighters. It was a dream. One he Still Believes in, but not under isis. Not leak this. I saw a 70yearold sheikh killed in front of me t. Islamic state cant continue like this there are a lot of youth who are joining, 14, 15yearsold. Maybe my voice can make them think again. Reporter just to give you an idea of how brazen isis is, behind me is a village controlled by them. We heard an explosion. We are hearing that spore radically throughout the morning. Isis moved into this village in the last 24 hours after there were airstrikes. All morning we have been watching isis fighters moving their weapons back and forth on motorcycles and vehicles, evenb though there are Coalition Aircraft overhead t. Turkish military has been firing into syria after mortar rounds landed here yesterday in another position to the west today. Such a precarious situation and an intriguing look at two different sides of this battle. Thank you so much for that look. All right, a new warning as the cdc confirms the enterovirus is spreading, affecting hundreds of kids in 40 states. Now officials are discovering whether this disease will be a paralysis. We will speak with the doctor in a few moments time. Good morning. Welcome back. The centers for Disease Control trying to get a handle on the nationwide outbreak of the enterovirus 6. I want to show you this map. Few states are spared. 270 confirmed cases last month in 40 states. Look at all that red. Officials are looking now into whether limb weakness and paralysis of nine children in colorado could be econnected. What could you be doing to protect your children . So nice to see you this morning. How concerned should people be . Cdc issuing an advisory about nine young patients in colorado asking doctors to look for other similar symptoms. How concerned should parents to be . Again, obviously be alert. I wouldnt be fearful. Concerns, depends on what you mean by concerned. Parents are always concerned when they hear Something Like this. This particular virus has a propensity to cause serious disease in children who have asthmatic predeposition. Those are the ones that are most susceptible to serious consequences of the disease. You asked, what should parents do . If you have a child who does have a predisposition to asthma, make sure its under control to minimize complications and avoid interactions with children that are sick. Wash your hands when you have illness, manifest good respiratory hygiene stay away from people sneezing and coughing. Particularly if you have a child with an asthma predisposition. Stay home if youre sick. A lot of schools around the country have been encouraging people to keep kids home. Muscle weakness and paralysis , is it surprising . Could it be tied to enterovirus d 6 8 or Something Else . It could be Something Else. You mentioned nine cases in colorado. Cdc and others were able to investigate eight of those. In four of eight they were able to isolate the enterovirus d 68. That doesnt prove cause and effect but its circumstantial evidence. It still remains a puzzle. Lets look at similar m tos. Seems like run of the wheel flu symptoms. Sneeze, running nose, cough. What should parents be looking for . Thats the typical flulike symptoms s you get. Difficulty with this as i mentioned is it can lead to significant respiratory distress and problems particularly in children who have what we call reactive air ways, asthma or respiratory problems in children that have predisposition in asthma. This hasnt been a problem for adults. It seems focused on kids under 18. Thats correct. Its rare and unusual to see an adult infected. Its likely the case as you get to be an adult, over your lifetime, leading up to adulthood, that youve been exposed to a greater or lesser degree to enterovirus and even enterovirus 68 so when you come into contact with a child with no preexisting immunity and get exposed, an adult will unlikely get infected or sick. If they do get infected, they would really not get sick is. Mostly because you have a background immunity to it. This has been seen in 40 states. You say wash your hands with soap and water a, avoid close contact like touching and shaking hands. Stay home from school, keep kids home from school if theyre sick. Cleaning and disinfecting touch surfaces. You said it. Thats correct. Lets talk about ebola quickly. This is a real concern from health officials. An american doctor exposed to ebola has arrived at nih in bethesda, maryland. What more can you tell us act this situation . Someone exposed to ebola, you want to get them to a fact where if in fact theyre infected they can be treated quickly. Thats right. I cant give you details about this patient because of c confidentiality. Like you correctly said, the patient is a physician who had been follvolunteering services. The physician was exposed in a way that would be at risk for being infected. When we say exposed, that does not necessarily mean a person is infected. When you have an exposed person, you put them under the right isolation situation where you can monitor them f. Theyre exposed and not infected, theyre home free after a certain period of time. The outer limit of that is usually 21 days following exposure if unfortunately a person does get infected, then you treat them appropriately under the proper Infection Control conditions. That has been remarkable watching ebola happening in west africa. We wish you the best in working on a vaccine and helping those exposed and infected. Thank you for joining us this morning. Youre welcome. President obama on the record about the mistakes his Administration Made during the rise of isis. We have a live report from the white house. All around the world the dedicated people of United Airlines are there to support you. Thats got your back friendly. When i had my first migraine, i was lucky. That sounds crazy, i know. But my mom got migraines, so she knew this would help. Excedrin migraine starts to relieve my pain in 30 minutes. Plus, sensitivity to light and sound, even nausea. Excedrin migraine works. 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First, Michelle Kosinski live from the white house. While were seeing more air strikes in iraq and syria, were hearing the president openly talk about how the u. S. Underestimated isis in the poost and overestimated ability of locals to fight it. Thats what continues to worry some here in this country. Speaking on cbs 60 minutes, president obama acknowledging what the u. S. Head of intelligence has said that the government absolutely underestimated isis. They were able to reconstitute themselves and take advantage of that and attract foreign fighters who believed in their jihadist non sense and traveled from europe, to the United States, to australia, to other parts of the muslim world converging on syria. The u. S. And arab allies continue hitting isis from the air in syria and iraq through the weekend. Isis still managed an advance in syria near the Turkish Border. Yet turkey is still not a military partner in this fight. Some European Countries have joined the coalition but wont touch syria. The u. S. Is still leading this. Thats always the case. America leads. We are the indespinsable nation. We have capacity nobody else has. Our military is the best in the history of the word. When trouble comes up anywhere in the world, they dont call beijing. They dont call moscow. They call us. Thats how we roll. And thats what makes us america. How do americans feel about this . A new cnn poll released this morning shows 73 approve the air strikes. About the same amount feel the u. S. Will likely have to send Ground Troops. Fewer, 61 , are confident the u. S. Will succeed in the goal of degrading and destroying isis. There was bipartisan support for the mission, but now bipartisan concern over what the end game will look like, whether congress should have debated and voted on the plan, whether u. S. Boots will end up on that volatile ground if no one else steps up. We have no choice. These are barbarians. They intend to kill us. If we dont destroy them first, were going to pay the price. Also interesting, were seeing more americans now than a few weeks ago approving of how things are going in the country and approving of how president obama is handling isis. Slightly more than half of americans, 51 , say they dont trust president obama as commanderinchief. Chris issue. None of that helped by how confusing this situation is. Not clear what the u. S. Is doing over there. Thank you for the reporting. Now to troops waging the war on the ground. The pentagon hit targets in a kurdish area of syria under siege by isis. The question is, has the u. S. Been doing enough to help the kurds as battles rage on the ground . Good morning michaela. This is the area where isis is making latest advance deep in Northern Syria against syrian kurds. Many by the thousands are trying to escape across the board tore turkey raising the question why not more air strikes to defend the kurds . Ive spoken to u. S. Defense officials and they say they do not have the mission to defend the syrian kurds in particular. The mission is to degrade and destroy isis. Thats where it stands now. Unless the president gives additional mission, theyll stick with orders they have. Chuck hagel talking late last week about what is going on in Northern Syria and in talking about the mission there. There are some hints that the turks may get involved, nothing definite yet. This latest fighting now right up against the tushish border, important nato ally. U. S. Engaging in air strikes around syria against isis targets trying to put isis back on its heels. Even the pentagon will tell you air strikes are not the full answer. Michaela . On the ground near the border showing how intense the situation is and how it changes by the moment. Thanks so much. The American People agree. 76 say troops from the u. S. Likely to be necessary in the fight against isis. Lets get perspective, congressman ed royce, chairman of the house foreign affairs. Chairman, thank you for being with us on new day. Two big points out of the interview with the president. First, lets play sound about his feelings about intelligence lapses. Well, i think our head of the intelligence community, jim clapper, has acknowledged i think they underestimated what had been taking place in syria. A lot of people on the Intel Community pushing become on that. Whats your take . I happen to know that in baghdad, the request was made from our embassy for strikes early on against isis as they were coming over the border. This wasnt unknown by the administration. Myself and others also made requests for the use of drones to hit those units as they were going city by city. They were open targets out on the open road. The administration decided not to do it. As a consequence, you had 16 cities fall. The last one to fall was mosul in which the central bank was taken over by isis is. Yes, if the advice early on had been taken in terms of power and certainly recruiting capability of isis, i think we could have done more to retard, degrade, slow their advance. Intelligence failure, political failure on the part of the white house . I think that was political failure. Early on, his former secretary of state Hillary Clinton urged action on this as did secretary of defense. This had to do with arming those that could have been a count weight in the region. This takes us to the interesting question of whether or not were going to arm the kurds with weapons they need to defend themselves or christians. What do you think . Do not be differential to government in baghdad but insist weapons needed to defend those religious people and authorities get into their hands. If you allow baghdad to exercise vie tveto, they will not let tht happen the time comes when you have to lead and be consist end on a course of action that is going to stop the isis advance. What we have found is if we do not push on the government in baghdad and if we dont assert were going to do it legislatively. Did democrats and republicans in Congress Want to see the kurds armed. They want to see the christians armed. Why do we feel that way . A, were not supportive of the idea of putting 82nd air born in there. We think these people should be allowed to defend themselves. We think a good amount of this was on part of the government in baghdad not allowing local forces to have the weapons they need to defend themselves. This gets tricky. If you want to circumvent the government on the one hand but need the Iraqi Government to allow the political change to allow sunnis to gain control so you dont have the next isis, you cant undermine the government . That goes back to the original point of why we should have spent, kept a small contingent force in baghdad itself, to have that leverage. Weve lost that leverage. Now we have to make the most of a difficult equation here which youve outlined effective his there. At the end of the day, if they continue to lose ground, if minorities continue to be slaughtered, youre left with the question, if United States can give capability to defend themselves and theyre killing isis troops, and if you dont have leadership in baghdad, were going to have to step in and do what i suggested. Dire consequences. The next big headline. Play the sound of whether or not were at war. Are you saying this is not really a war . What im saying is that we are assisting iraq in a very real battle thats taking place on their soil with their troops. We are providing air support, and it is in our interest to do that because isil represents a hybrid of not just a the terrorist network but one with strategy and tactics of an army. This is not america against i l isil. Do you agree or are we at war . In the first instance, the fight was handed down by isil against the United States where they say theyre at war with us. Clearly were trying to put together an International Coalition so we keep the focus on the fact this is not just the United States. This is the gulf states, jordan, every country in the region. Every ethnic group this the region is threatened directly by these beheadings and mass murders. So i understand the strategy in terms of insisting that this is an International Coalition. At the same time, clearly theyve declared war on the United States and europe. Thats the reality from isils perspective. Forget about them. Theyre not supposed to be driving this game. Its supposed to be about the arabs. Theyre not driving the game. Now its about the u. S. If it is really war, no matter what the president says, of course hes got a great mind and may be accurate but impractical on some level. Thats congresss job to declare war. If youre going to arm them, why not make a debate and decision on this . We will debate. If the president asked for he is the commanderinchief if he asks for authorization of force, what youre calling for, congress will bring that up. What congress has done as we know is pass an authorization for the specific requests the president made. That was bipartisan. It was passed by a large margin. To some extent, we attempt to do this with one voice when engaged in Foreign Policy. Begin that fact, it is incumbent upon the commander in chief to lay out the strategy he wants. We have given him those tools. You dont need the president to make a decision about whether or not you wanted to declare war or not. We do not need the president. Were not dealing with that. This is a terrorist network. Lets look at examples in yemen, this is a larger extent of al qaeda. Its a new way to recruit. They use the internet. Its the same notion of eventually having the caliphate. They dont want to wait. They want it right now. When dealing with this kind of threat, whats the best strategy . Were going to debate this when we go back. Ive got democrats and republicans that all have views on this. Were going to see if we can come to another conclusion besib besides the one we reached already. If we need to expand well do it. Where we dont want this to go is 82nd air born deployed into that region. Thats pretty clear. Thats a bipartisan position that we dont want to see us do that if weve got a real alternative to go back to my original point. Arm the kurds, christians, sunnis who want to resist isis. It is their battle. Give them the tools and air support that we should be. Chairman, its a plan. Meet on it, debate, vote on it. Thats the leadership people need. Appreciate you being on the show. I want one people to know the chairman is holding a hearing wednesday into the situation of the man held in mexico. Were following that story. Thank you for holding the hearing. Well follow that as well. Very good. Lots of news this morning. Were going to begin in hong kong. Tens of thousands remain on the streets. Police urging people to leave, but demonstrators show no sign of letting up accusing police of heavy handed tactics. Student led demonstrations began over interference of elections. In chicago, faa says it will take weeks to get the fire damage air Traffic Control center back on line. Weeks. Officials hope to return it to full service october 13th. An air traffic employee apparently set the fire before a suicide attempt. The search for more victims of the volcano eruption has been suspended. Many were killed by saturdays sudden eruption. Police say there could be two dozen more bodies on the mountain. Ash has forced airlines to divert from the area 15 miles west of tokyo. What a memorable regular Season Finale from major league baseball. Derek jeter driving in a run, final at bat. Jeter was removed from the game with Boston Red Sox fans chanting his game. Look at the catch by the Washington Nationals rookie. It saved a no hitter for Jordan Zimmerman on the final out of the game. Its the first no hitter ever thrown by a nationals pitcher. Back to boston. They were so welcoming and so great for derek jeter. Their rival for all those years. Is that why john berman is not here today . Hes mourning the derek jeter retiring . As a red sox fan. It was classy. Classy end to a 20 year career. Berman has picked a time to be objective about jeter. This is the First Time Since 1993 neither the red sox nor yankees yes, yes. Neither are in post season contenti contention. Thanks for pointing that out. Hard bite of news. Speaking of news, long before the fence jumper incident, there was a lap in security three years ago. Shots fired at the white house. Did the secret service know about it . 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This morning the secret service is defending the way it handled the situation. I want to discuss this with the Washington Post reporter that wrote the story on the 2011 shooting. Thanks for joining me this morning carol. Glad to be here. First of all, lets get you to give us a sense of your reporting on how something so serious, shots fired into the white house, could go undetected or unreported four days. When i first heard about this in the last maybe year and a half of writing about the secret service, i knew it had been covered in a small way. I knew that there had been shots fired at the white house in 2011 and it took a few days to happen. I was curious when i heard clues of what happened behind the scenes. I wanted to learn more. As i learned more, i found it fascinating about how the service responded to this. Essentially the service initially decided in basically a few hours time that that sleepy friday night, veterans weekend, the shootout had been gangsters in two cars that happened to have their argument on the national mall. That seed like an unlikely thing to happen, but thats what they concluded. There was no evidence connecting this shooting to the white house. Actually what happened a man who was very troubled, increasingly paranoid 21yearold has pulled out the gun out of the car, pulled up onto constitution avenue and shot seven to eight rounds from a semiautomatic rifle. He hit the white house seven times. He hit most importantly the second floor of the familys residence while sasha was home. Sasha was the only one home at the time. President and first lady was traveling. Mel meleah was due to arrive any moment. A paper has taken issue with the reporting. I want to give you a chance to respond to push back. They call the night an uncertain situation. They argue that they responded accordingly. They say a witness told them shots had been fire at another vehicle. They took the fact your reporting said they did nothing the night of the incident. They said they did a sweep around the white house, found no suspect or property damage. Whats your reaction to that . Its absolutely true the secret service looked around the pe remember ter. Our story says they were searching for casings on constitution avenue. I do think the the secret service was doing things behind the scenes. I know they were from looking at records. This is really about they had officers on the scene, one in particular, who said she heard gunshots. She was pretty sure she knew what kind of gun it was because of her training. She heard the sound of debris falling overhead from the trueman balcony. If you have an officer on the scene that experiences that, you would think that would surface to the leadership and be part of the investigation. Actuallycret Service Officers on duty that night were interviewed until the usher found a bullet on the balcony four days later. And also made a point of at thing the first lady who hadnt been told at that point. I want to talk about the secret service director. We know shell testify before a special committee tuesday. She was brought if in after the 2012 scandal involving secret service guys. Brought in to bust up what was perceived as an old boys network. Do you get a sense from reporting she is doing what she was set out to do, tasked to do . Morale is pretty low at the secret service. The staffing problems that had plagued the agency when she arrived and low morale havent been addressed. I think her job is a really hard one. I wish her well. I dont hear from the people that i talk to inside the agency that things are improving in any drastic way. As for breaking up the old boys network, certainly shes a woman. Shes had a career at the service. She was one of the top recommendations of the previous director. She was a mentor of the previous director. There are people who say shes an insider. Part of this whole culture, not a big change. What do you think it is going to take to change things inside the secret service . We had an author on a moment ago telling us he thinks its going to take an assassination attempt which is a terrifying thought. I really hope it doesnt come to that. Heres what i hear from people inside and also former agents who think the highest duty that they were ever called to was to protect the president. They feel this agency is a little stuck in the mud, that it is reactive instead of proactive. Not creative, not modernizing, throws bodies at a body instead of thoughtful solutions. That it is becoming increasingly political. Im sorry im so sorry. Weve got to wrap it up there for now. Id love to talk to you further about this. Really intriguing article and the writer of the article. 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He would not agree to be interviewed for this piece. Heres the thing, rand paul came up underneath the ideology of his father. It seems as though hes trying to move beyond that and move more to the center of the Republican Party. Yeah, this is the center of contradiction. He basically owes his father everything. He would not have been a senator of kentucky without the movement his father built. He leverage had the movement which was built in the 2008 president ial campaign to win the Kentucky Senate seat in 2010. Now as he tries to take that next step to run for president in 2016, which he almost certainly will unless one of his advisors said his wife said no. Hell take the next step. His father is obviously not going to get him there. His whole project now and what i documented this summer is trying to separate himself from the libertarian base and woo the establishment. Especially on two issues that are critical to his future, Foreign Policy and race. Lets talk about that because it could be the baggage of his father in some cases that could end up haunting him as he goes forward, or will it not . Well, that is really the key question. I think let me give you examples of how hard this is for rand paul. When i started working on this piece over the summer, the head of the Texas Republican Party the Texas Republican Party is the biggest state party in the country. The head of that carries a lot of weight in president ial primary politics. He told me over the summer rand paul was one of the three most likely to win the republican nomination. Guess what, after the debate over isis this summer where rand paul was accused of changing his position and not having a clear position, i went back to that person and just to make sure he still felt that way. He said no. He had changed his mind and that the Foreign Policy issue had so strained and he had gotten of messed up with shifting position that it was too much of a wildcard and he no longer believed that. Thats evidence that this project of trying to main stream pauls policies is a lot more complicated maybe than he thought. Main stream policies. Jesse benton, political advisor to rand paul. He said theres a sub layer thats a loud minority of supporters. Nothing is ever going to be right unless rand is on a regular basis standing on the floor of the senate smashing the the establishment. They want ted cruz on steroids, and thats not going to work in the long term. Hes describing ted cruz too far to the right and trying to separate rand from that wing of the party in a certain way. Its also interesting because they realize that ron paul for excitement he generated, he never won a state and could never generate more than five to 15 of the republican base. So its just not enough to win the republican nomination. So they have this very tricky project of keeping the tea party in the libertarian base with rand paul. At the same time trying to woo these establishment gop donors and activists and to convince them hes not his dad. But you say hes got the energy this time around with the republicans like another senator who was talked about and able to raise money, president obama was, not long ago. I covered obama starting in 2004. Writing about rand paul reminded me of that period in Barack Obamas career. Lets be honest, obama had a lot of issues he had to overcome. A lot of past associations and statements. Its very similar. I see rand a little as obama as the Republican Party now. Its called revenge of rand paul. You clearly had a summer of rand paul. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. Take care. President obamas admission, he underestimated isis, comes days after ordering the first air strikes in syria. Big shift for the president. 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Liberty mutual insurance. Iwith something terrible to admit. I treated thousands of patients, risked their lives, while high on prescription drugs. I was an addict. Im recovered now, but an estimated 500,000 medical professionals are still out there, abusing drugs or alcohol. Police, airline pilots, bus drivers. Theyre randomly tested for drugs and alcohol. But not us doctors. You can change that vote yes on proposition 46. Your lives are in our hands. Are you saying this is not really a war. What im saying is that we are assisting iraq in a very real battle thats taking place on their soil, with their troops. We are providing air support, and it is in our interest to do that because isil represents sort of a hybrid of not just the terrorist network but one with territorial ambitions with the strategy and tactics of an army. This is not america against isil. Why was president obama so careful on something so obviously in his interview . We have somebody now that may be able to tell us exactly why. He looks at when obama came into office as someone to end wars not start them. Where does this leave him now . Mr. Peter baker. Thank you for joining us. As people heard that answer, we started to see in social media and otherwise, confusion. Seems obvious were at war. Theres a poll on cnn orc that says 60 dont think were at more. The situation seems to be obviously. This matters to president obama, why . Well, it does matter to him. His goal was to get us out of middle east wars. He withdrew from iraq, plans to withdraw from afghanistan. He hopes that will be his legacy to pull back. He finds himself in a situation hes not only back in iraq at least in the air with a small number of troops on the ground and also in syria, a place we hadnt been militarily before his presidency. Hes finding himself in a place hes trying to reconcile ideas so it feels consistent and makes sense to him and the public hes been trying to lead on this. What have you figured out . I suggest you read peters reporting on this. He has fresh reporting on this now. Very interesting. However, what have you been able to figure out in terms of why would he do the one thing he criticized roundly, which well may been a big reason he became president. He resisted as long as he could. He was warned by people, including secretary of state Hillary Clinton that they ought to get involved in arming them but countering the rise of a group like isis. He didnt want to do it. He felt it would be a mess, a terrible thing to get american troops back involved. Now he feels he has no choice. Isis has grown so large. As you heard him say, its one with territorial ambitions. Hes forced in a position he feels he has no choice but to intervene. Hes trying his own terms. Hes not george w. Bush. Hes not going to put large numbers of Ground Troops in there. The real question is whether his strategy will work and what hell leave his successor . What does it mean many the thinking of the white house . Theres legacy conscious like this second term, that he will most likely, president obama, be defined on an issue that he very much wanted to avoid. How do they handle it . Great question. President obama even when he was a senator actually understood that a presidency is sometimes events that take place outside your control. He told aids that president control may be 25 of what goes on. The rest is reacting to the world. Thats where he is now, reacting to the world in syria and iraq obviously. Other places like ukraine, gaza, afghanistan. Its not going exactly how he wanted it to go. Hes focused on getting the next two years right so when he leaves office, hes in stable condition for whoever comes on whether Hillary Clinton or rand paul. Its a parallel to where george w. Bush was in his presidency. He got iraq to a place to leave the successor in better shape than it was at. Big reason, when you look back at history, just quickly. You know this obviously peter, bush set is up a deal with maliki who was running the Iraqi Government, about leaving and what would happen. Maliki was strong about wanting the u. S. Out. He had trouble domestic with the u. S. Being there. The obama didnt pay anymore attention to that because they were okay staying out of there as well. Thats why mccain and all these guys are arguing we could have been in there, should have been a stability force. Now troops on the ground will probably be the line between whether this is any different from what weve seen in the past, how does he avoid boots on the ground . Thats a good question. Partly not just how to avoid boots on the ground. Its how to define boots on the ground. Does boots on the ground mean no Ground Forces at all . Probably not. We have 1600 folks in iraq. The the idea is theyre not out there firing weapons, in direct combat the way they were for nine years or eight years under president bush and later president obama. Eventually, the question is will he introduce special forces to help air strikes determine targets to help Syrian Opposition forces, much less iraqi forces, figure out how to do the combat themselves . Thats a line thats been shifting over the last few weeks as they try to strug toll in ii define the strategy. He is taking a beating. Very complex. Needs intelligence coverage. Good thing youre there. Thank you very much. Peter baker, strong stuff. We need perspective on it. Thank you for being on new day. Hope to have you back. Have a great day. You too. So heres a question for you. What would you do if you knew a pair of kids whos only toy was a balled up old sock . What would you do . Well tell you a story about what one Police Officer did about it. It makes him the good stuff. 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A Police Officer goes above and beyond for a pair of young boys with nothing to play with. Listen to this. Officer from virginia on patrol on a neighborhood spot ace pair of kids, looked like they could use a buddy. They began asking about my different equipment on my police gear. I said you want to play with toys or something while were here . They said they didnt have any. It was pretty heartbreaking. Turns out the only toy they had to play catch with, a balled up sock. The officer wasnt having it. You know what he did . Arrested them. Im just kidding. He went out and bought them a proper ball, action figures, even a Costume Police hat, all with his own money. No pub lis publicity stunt. The kids reaction was the reward. Probably my greatest experience as a Police Officer. I got a little teary eyed. I was not expecting that kind of a response towards me. Thats so wonderful. Good stuff there. Protect and serve. We tell the story straight when its the other side. Got to this side too. Protect, serve, play. Makes me want to go buy toys right now. Go buy toys. You should do that. Lets do it right now. A lot of news this morning. Time for the newsroom. Randy in for carol. Got to go buy toys. That is on my list after the show. Thanks guys. Nice to see you. Newsroom starts now. Good morning everyone. Im randy dkay sitting in for carol costello. The strong hold inside iraq and syria, even the commanderinchief now admits the terror group was more powerful than first received. Well, i think our head of the intelligence community, jim clapper, has acknowledged they underestimated what had been taking place