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Ahead of this story from the very beginning and has the latest developments for us from the pentagon. Good morning, barbara. Good morning, john. A u. S. Official does confirm to cnn that president obama has authorized those reconnaissance flights to collect intelligence about isis positions inside of syria, but the question, of course, now is what exactly will trigger a decision for air strikes . U. S. Reconnaissance flights could begin over syria at any time, according to u. S. Officials using possibly drones, u2 supply planes or f18s. The pentagon is drafting options to strike inside syria, but the u. S. Wont warn the Syrian Government who says carrying out air strikes without their consent would be a breach of its sovereignty and an act of aggression. Its unclear, however, how much the president s top military adviser, general Martin Dempsey, supports immediate u. S. Military action. A spokesman confirmed dempsey is preparing options to address isis, both in iraq and syria, with a variety of military tools, including air strikes. But the lack of action so far is prompting critics like hawkish republican senator Lindsey Graham to charge the white house is trying to minimize the threat we face in order to justify not changing a failed strategy. Before any bombs could fall, the u. S. Has to get fresh intelligence. We dont talk about reconnaissance and Intelligence Matters, but in general when you are thinking about conducting operations like that, you certainly want to get as much of a view on the ground as you can. My knee is Peter Theo Curtis and im a journalist in the city of boston, massachusetts. Reporter the debate comes as american Theo Peter Curtis held hostage by the militant group al nusra in syria gets his first taste of freedom. He was overthetop excited. I think obviously hes he has to decompress. Hes been through so much. Reporter u. S. Officials so far are not saying much about the release of mr. Curtis which the government of qatar apparently helped to facilitate, but they are saying the u. S. Policy of not offering ransom to terrorists still holds. John . All right, interesting. Barbara starr at the pentagon, thanks. Alisyn. This is breaking overnight, exclusive audio coming to light from the very Moment Police shot unarmed teenager Michael Brown. It was recorded inadvertently were told during a video chat by a man who lives near the scene of the shooting in ferguson, missouri. Cnn has not been able to independently able to verify this reporting. Stephanie elam has the latest. What do we know, stephanie . Alisyn, when you take a listen to this audio, for some people it might be a bit disturbing but when youre listening try to listen past the man you hear speaking and see what you hear behind him for yourself. Listen closely. You are pretty. You are so fine, just going over some of your videos. How can i forget. This audio obtained exclusively by cnn allegedly the gunshots fired during the shooting death of 18yearold Michael Brown, a lawyer for a ferguson resident says her client recorded this audio while video chatting with a friend when the unarmed teen was shot by ferguson police. His lawyer says he was questioned by the fbi about the audio. Listen again as you hear a series of gunshots fired and then a brief pause, followed by another round of shots. You are pretty. Youre so fine. Just going over some of your videos. How could i forget. Not just the number of gunshots, its how they are fired and that has a huge relevance on how this case might finally end up. Cnn cannot independently var fight authenticity of the tape and has reached out to the fbi for confirmation. Facing the possibility of charges in the shooting, 28yearold officer darren wilson, the grand jury not expected to return a decision until midoctober. Heavy police presence, protests and violence on fearirgusons streets thrust the Small Community into the spotlight. Today is for peace, peace and quiet sunshine side the Friendly Mission Baptist Church a somber home going to lay Michael Brown to rest. Yes, we call him the gentle giant. We call him big mike. We call him mike mike. He said one day the whole world will know my name. Reporter standing before her sons photos and his casket his mother grieving, wiping away tears. Among the thousand gathered inside were friends and family and many who came to pay their respectsed to the slain teen having never known big mike personally. Were still not defeated. Reporter including wellknown public figures like the reverend Jesse Jackson and spike lee who tweeted during the service our brother mike browns st. Louis cardinals cap lays upon the casket. On this day protesters stayed silent but mourners reminded of the need for change. Michael browns blood is crying from the ground, crying for vengeance, crying for justi justice. And back to that audio recording. The question on many peoples mind, what exactly was happening during that pause in the shooting . Alisyn. Lets look into, that stephanie, so stick with us for a second because we want to bring in Paul Ginsberg, an audio expert who has examined this new recording. Paul, thanks so much for being with us. Lets play the recording one more time and then see what you hear. Lets listen. You are pretty. [ gunshots just going over your videos. How can i forget . The reason that sounds so strange is because theres a man simultaneously having an audio chat with a woman and we think that he had ear buds in so he doesnt respond to the gunshots that we hear caught on that ambient audio tape. What do you hear as an expert . I hear six shots being fired in rapid succession followed by a pause of about three seconds. Ill have to measure that precisely, and then there are i believe four more shots. I made a plot and ive examined it both in realtime as well as in halftime to be able to get more precise information. So you hear six shots and then you hear a pause and then you hear four more shots. Exactly, thats right, and they all appear to be about the same type of signature. Another, the same type of weapon. Lets play that again and see if we can hear what you, the expert hears. Lets play it one more time. You are pretty. [ gunshots. Youre so fine. Just going over some of your videos [ gunshots. ] paul, we should mention you have analyzed many audio tapes from crime scenes, including the gunshots from the newtown massacre in connecticut, so how vital if this tape is proved verifiably true to be of Michael Browns shooting, how critical do you think that this could be in the investigation . Well, this will test the credibility of the officer and whatever else is included in the official report as to how many shots were fired, what type of weapon was used . Was it reloaded and was it from the same gun . Stephanie, we were told, as you well know, that Michael Brown was shot six times. How do you think this changes the investigation . Reporter well, we know that he could have been hit six times, doesnt mean that there werent more shots fired and thats where the lack of clarity has been. Like the only thing we know for sure is there were two young men walking in the street when an officer engaged them. After that, it becomes a game of he said, he said so thats what we dont know. What this could possibly help do is add another plane, another texture to this investigation, and, really, i do think it comes down to that pause. What was going on there. On the politician side they are saying that mike brown was reaching for the officers weapon. On the other side they say that he had his hands up and he was saying dont shoot. Im unarmed. What this pause does it adds texture from that question. From the police side, stephanie, we understand that darren wilson, the officer, said that he believed that mike brown was charging him or preparing to charge towards him, so that pause might have been what was happening there . Reporter well, thats the thing, it could have been. The distance between where his body was found and where the officer was, from what we know at this point, remember, theres a lot of questions out there still, it was not when he was right up on top of the car so that lack of clarify, again, this is just audio. It just adds another layer to that investigation of figuring out exactly what was happening then. Paul, do you have any theory on what those three seconds mean . Well, it could have been reloading. It could have been turning around and so on. They may want to do an acoustic analysis of test firing a gun and setting up the fellows ipad or whatever at the location where this chat occurred to take measurements and to see under different circumstances what they hear. Paul, you did a time domain wave form pattern. How did that differ from what youre suggesting investigators do . Okay. Thats just a pretorial representation of what exactly we hear. They will do the same thing, but they may do it under test circumstances to compare, to see how long does it take to reload. In other words, shoot six shots, take the clip out, reload and shoot some more and see whether that compares to what ive got. Stephanie, very quickly, do people in ferguson have a chance to respond to this new audio yet . This is all just coming out. I spent a lot of time on the street where mike brown was killed yesterday, and the people there are hoping that this investigation, they seem to be hopeful in the fbi investigation will shed more light on this, but how this audio is being received, well have to see as sun comes up here in ferguson. Paul ginsberg, thanks so much for your expertise. Stephanie elam, well check back in with you. Reporter of course. Thanks so much to both of you. We want you to weigh in on the new developments. Join chris cuomo at 11 00 a. M. Eastern on our Facebook Page for a chat of what happens next. Go to facebook. Com new years day, and you can also find me on twitter alisyn camerota. Over to michaela. 12 minutes past the hour. We begin in the middle east where palestinian Officials Say new israeli air strikes destroyed one of gazas tallest office and apartment buildings. Israel says the building was a hamas command center. Palestinian Officials Say nine people were killed, 20 others wounded. Also overnight rockets from gaza hit a home in israel, but the family had escaped when warning sirens went off. Egypt is meanwhile reportedly trying to revive these ongoing ceasefire talks. Ukrainian president poroshenko is expected to meet with Vladimir Putin in belarus. They are attending a regional trade summit. They will meet to discuss the crisis in Eastern Ukraine obviously as well. This meeting comes as fighting continues between Ukrainian Forces and prorussian separatists. Ukraine says it captured Russian Troops across the border. Russian media though says they crossed by mistake. Voters are headed to the polls for primary elections in arizona, vermont and florida. Democratic candidate Charlie Crist is expected to win and not many hoeprofile races today but some could affect the balance of power in the chamber next year. Can we talk about the emmy awards, past my bedtime two nights in away. Breaking bad took top honors winning outstanding drama series, kmodern family winnig for a record fifth time. The nights most memorable moment, however, was this. Did you see this, Bryan Cranston . Plants one on seinfeld car julie Louie Dreyfuss. Passionate kiss when she went to receive her award for leading actress in a comedy. So good. And finally an emotional tribute that Billy Crystal paid to his good friend, the late Robin Williams, really touching, and i think you couldnt help but feel the emotion in the moment from somebody who knew him so well. Could i mention, a big mention to alison janney, two emmys, a guest role for in a drama series and for the tv show mom. Not a bad night, get all dressed up and walk away with two statues. Still your birthday. Still your birthday. Its been a real great 15 minutes so far. Thanks. Were going to do this all morning. All morning. Sorry, america. Next on new day, president obama is expanding the fight against isis. 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President obama has authorized air surveillance, spy planes, drones, to gather intelligence on isis strongholds. How far will the u. S. If to retrain or detain terror in that region . Lets bring in bobby ghosh, the managing editor of quartz. These flights that will go over syria, drones, spy planes, u2s, what will they be looking . Looking for clusters of military equipment. We know isis has stolen or ceased a lot of tank, armored vehicles, both within iraq and syria. They will be looking for where those are and looking for Training Camps and movements of large numbers of suvs and also armored things like this, exactly. They will also be trying to confirm intelligence that they are collecting from the ground, for safe houses, where isis is keeping its prisoners, its captives. We know, for instance, we learned last week that the u. S. Did send in special forces to try to get jim foley and the other captives. The information was a little out of date but the time the special forces got to the scene in syria. The prisoners were moved. If we had eyes over that scene for a few days we might have known that. Talked about boots on the ground. It already happened. Went in to try to rescue james foley, didnt work. Had boots on the ground briefly in iraq where we also had air strikes already against isis. There is another component though us a talk about moving into syria, and thats bashar assad, the regime in syria. I had a respected man in National Security yesterday, and he told me, and hes not alone, that hes in favor of working with Bashar Al Assad to fight isis in syria. What do you make of that . Im very skeptical about that. One is you dont fight one sort of bad actor with another bad actor. Bashar al assad has killed 100,000 of his own people, most of them sunnis. If you join forces with him, assuming that hes even trustworthy enough to join forces with, if youre sending forces youre sending the wrong kind of signal. Youre empowering isis because isis is able to say the United States is fighting with the shia against us sunnis, come and join us. Youre making isis propaganda for them. So without assad and without large numbers of Ground Troops or boots on the ground, what can these air strikes against isis do . Well, the administration has already been talking about strengthening the nonislamist opposition to assad. There are plenty of groups involved there. Weve had connections with for a while now. They have been fighting, and with varying degrees. Are they giving us intelligence, by the way . Im sure they are. How could they not be . If were smart were collecting intelligence from them. They are outgunned. Dont have the kind of equipment isis or assad had and theres many outside the administration, for instance, john mccain, saying we should be giving them weapons, enabling them to foot. They need to be the boots on the camp in addition to whatever aerial campaign is being waged. Another Major Development that we learned over the last 24 hours coming from the region right now and thats in libya, word that i should point out that egypt right here and the United Arab Emirates have launched air strikes in libya. Now, this also apparently happened without the knowledge of the u. S. Let me break this down into two parts. First of all, do you buy the possibility without the knowledge of the u. S. . I find that very hard to believe. They may not have formally asked for permission, but the United States has eyes all over that piece of ground, and the uae, egypt can be an unreliable actor, but the uae, i find very hard that the uae would have spent planes all the way across without the United States knowing about it. What does this mean then for the United States, the fact that you have these two arab nations, egypt and the uae launching air strikes in that region . What does that mean for our country facing other threats in that region . Something it means for the whole world. For years now people everywhere have been asking why is it only the western countries that are putting boots on the ground, military hardware. Why arent arab countries who are very well armed, they pout all this equipment from us, why are they not participating in the fight against Islamist Groups in their own lands . This is the first time weve seen this kind of concerted action to large significant arab countries participating, collaborating and attacking islamists in a third arabic country. This opens up the possibility that now we can see to the egyptians and to the uae, if you can do that in libya, why arent you helping in syria and iraq . It does put them in direct conflict with other regions in the area. Qatar is aiding the different half of whats going on inside syria right now. Qatar is trying to be on the fence, trying to be brokers and trying to be helpful. Theres theres a lot of accusations that they are funding groups like al nusra which gave up this the other captive this week. We dont know that for certain. We know that qatar has been in talks with these groups in the past. Its not a bad thing in itself. Its useful to have somebody who is in communication with some of these groups. Nobody talks with isis. Isis talks with nobody but there are many other groups in the region. So much going on right now in that region. The u. S. Is involved in a lot clearly and the u. S. Not involved in. Interesting to see what happens over the next few hours. Bobby ghosh, really great to have you with us. Next up on new day, much more on the alleged new audio of the Michael Brown shooting. Do the number of gunshots heard in the tape, and we want you to listen to them, do they match up with what weve opinion told all along. How will this now affect the investigation and a hurricane has formed in the atlantic. Cristobal is set to churn north. Will it hit the United States . Were tracking the storm. Everything you need to know right after the break. You can get a 1,000 turbocharged reward card with a new volkswagen turbo. So why are we so obsessed with turbo . Because theres nothing more exhilarating than a powerful ride. And you can get that in places you might not expect. Like the passat. And also in the funtodrive jetta. 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Former fbi Directorlouis Freeh was in a car accident. He was in a car accident and underwent surgery for unspecified injuries. Police say the suv went off the road and struck a mailbox before landing in some bushes. Freeh was director of the fbi from 1993 to 1991. To the latest in the fight against eparticular, the World Trade Organization calling the death toll among Health Care Workers in western africa unprecedented. So far 120 Health Care Workers have died, twice in a number have been infected. These are really huge numbers considering that in the three hardest hit countries the w. H. O. Ization only one or two doctors are available to treat 100,000 people. Well keep an eye on that. We want to show you a drones eye view of damage from the powerful earthquake that shook californias wine country. The damage was recorded to some of the Historic Buildings and homes and businesses in the downtown area of napa and post it had on youtube. You can see this. Look at this. Terrible damage. Dozens of homes and buildings are now considered uninhabitable, many have been redtagged because the walls or the roofs might just collapse. An area hospital said it treated more than 200 patients. One is still in critical condition. Gives you an idea of the scope because weve seen footage from the ground and we know it was bad, 6. 0, and theres been a series of aftershocks, but that really gives you an idea. It does. Some of those buildings i think were rhett fitted, designed to withstand that and even they suffered damage. Exactly. Theres trouble in the tropics. Hurricane cristobal has formed in the atlantic with sustained 75mileperhour winds. Meteorologist Indra Petersons is here to tell us how the east coast will be affected. Whats it looking like . Still talking about this making its way out to sea. Doesnt mean we wont see any effects on the eastern seaboard. A category 1 hurricane, weak hurricane, makes it a category 1 sitting at 75 miles per hour. Expected to go right between bermuda and the outer banks staying as a hurricane even as it enters cooler waters before dissipating but well be watching. Look at surf. So many people are headed to the beach ahead of labor day weekend. 5 to 7 foot surf along florida and making its way to the outer banks and even though this system is hanging offshore. Another side is the strong rip currents. Not only do you have rip currents but a dome of High Pressure. With that youre talking about a high rip current even out there towards the midatlantic so thats one side of the equation. Keep in mind, on the opposite side, this was a huge story, category 5, a rare system was hanging there and dissipated to a category 2 with you youre still talking about this very rare to come all the way into Southern California. This is going to be an epic event in their region. Talking about 10 to 15 foot waves out there. 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Did i mention his neck pillow . blowing welcome back to new day. Breaking overnight. A cnn exclusive. New audio that purports to be the very Moment Police shot and killed unarmed teen Michael Brown. It was apparently recorded inadvertently during a video chat with Something Like skype or one of those other Video Chat Services near the shooting scene. Now on it what sounds like gunshots, a pause and then more gunshots. I want you to take a listen. We should mention it is a bit disturbing since they are the reported fatal shots, and you also have to try to ignore the man talking and try to listen to whats happening in the background. You are pretty. [ gunshots ] youre so fine. Just going over some of your videos. [ gunshots. ] how could i forget. We want to bring in mo ivory, cnn commentator and legal analyst and i know mo youre hearing it for the first time. What off the blush, first off, what do you hear and what comes to mind . The first thing that i started thinking thats more than six. Mmhmm. And ive always had that number six in my head because of the autopsy, but that certainly that first series, pop, pop, pop, pop and then a break. Obvious break and then a bunch more shots. W wow. Mel, we know our audio expert Paul Ginsberg was on with us, counts ten. He said ten. We said 11 but he said the last one was an echo. They said it was at least six shots. I dont find the number of bullets to be the bombshell here, its the pause. Lets listen. Play it again one more time. Listen how long it is. You are pretty. [ gunshots [. Youre so fine. Just going over some of your videos. How could i forget . [ gunshots. ] mel, it sounds like, and, again, our expert says theres a threesecond pause. Wow. What is that to you . Thats extremely significant. Let me put it in the context of the Legal Proceedings that are going on. Okay. What the pause means is a question of fact for the jury, and one of the things thats been troubling me greatly is that on the bus or train of justice its the prosecutor that drives it, and the prosecutor in this case, michaela and mo is not driving the bus. Hes along for the ride, and im extremely concerned about whats going to happen in the grand jury and so this sort of pause could mean that the officer shot six times, paused, saw the hands were up and then shot again, or it could mean that Michael Brown was lunging at him, but these are questions of fact that belong in front of a criminal jury to decide. Think about the porch shooting. A prosecutor could have decided that the resident in that Detroit House was acting in selfdefense. A jury just unanimously convicted him of murder because these are questions that a jury are supposed to be deciding and this pause is a huge thing. So mo, we know we understand from the lawyer of the man thats on this audio tape that the fbi, the lawyer tells us the fbi has this audio recording and has interviewed the man. We cant independently confirm either of those facts, but that is a big part of their investigation. This is another missing link, if you will. Sure, and just like she said. We will not know if this information goes before the grand jury. Can you imagine if this didnt. The grand jury proceedings are so secretive we dont know whats going in and we dont know what else there is. I was shocked yesterday when i was in ferguson and i went to the scene, how close the proximity, how small this street is and how close the apartments are so i would not be surprise federal theres more audio, if theres more people that were on the phone and caught stuff on their cell phones just because this street is so small, the neighborhood is so close to the street, and, i mean, im sure theres a ton more well find out. We already learned earlier this week, i guess it would have been last week, quiz cuomo and Anderson Cooper speak together young man saying they heard it. It bounced around any noise, a dark barking, child being thrown, bounced around between those buildings and sort of echoed and thats a very good question. What else will we find out, mel, and why did it take so long for this to come forward . August 9th was the shooting. Today is the 26th of august. You know, investigations do take a fair amount of time. But does it surprise you that this audio came out so late in the game . No, it doesnt, actually, but what is scary is the fact that the state has moved forward with these grand jury proceedings and the federal government with their 40 phoebe agents on the ground have other evidence, so we dont know if the state, as mo was saying, is going to be introducing this into the grand jury if they even knew that this existed. This is a gamechanger then. Absolutely, and i know that theres been a plea from senator mccaskill in missouri for the federal investigation to be in line with the grand jury so they can come out both at the same time with their findings so theres not one, you know, set of findings and then the fbi and the federal government comes back and says something else. I mean, they should be moving together with all of the stuff that they have, but, again, the grand jury is so secretive the prosecutor is so not being transparent, and its making its putting more stress on the community, especially when stuff like this comes out. Its so interesting, too, that everyone collectively, supporters, people that were vocally voicing consternation of what went on in ferguson, supporters of the Police Officers, supporters of the family. Everybody took a pause yesterday as they laid Michael Brown to rest and now it sounds as though with this new audio and the fact that people are really seeking justice this will really reinvigorate things. You know, michaela. Go ahead, mo, first. There was a pause yesterday at the funeral and at the church, friendly temple, but there was not a pause at the scene. When i went to the scene, there were still people, still cameras and still, you know, trucks going on so there was the respect of what was happening at the other side of st. Louis but still attention at the scene yesterday. Mel . The other reason, michaela, that this is a very significant piece of evidence is not only because of the because but because it is a piece of evidence that actually puts you right at the scene. We only have the photos of Michael Brown lying in the middle of the street. We dont have any video of the actual context, and now we have audio that actually emotionally puts you right there, and thats a Major Development, michaela. So a jury will hear this, mel . Absolutely. Yeah. Lets put it this way. I dont know that a jury will hear this, because as i mentioned before the prosecutor drives the bus in the system of justice, and what has troubled me, its that the prosecutor has not made a very clear position about whether or not they are committed to prosecuting this case, that they are committed to bringing charges. Hes basically said hes going to give the grand jury every scrap of paper and then they will figure it out, and that is a bunch of malarkey. The prosecutor always knows going into the grand jury what he or she hopes the charges will be, and we do not have that in this particular incident. Mel is right. If he doesnt think he should prove a case, he should say so. And they should appoint a special prosecutor because his behavior is showing the signs of him not vigorously going after this case, and its time for the cries for a special prosecutor to be heard. Mo, mel, great conversation. Thanks for walking through it all with me. This new audio tape, as you said, sounds like its a Game Changing certainly in the investigation. We want you to weigh in on this new development and all the others. Join chris cuomo. Hell be conducting a Facebook Chat at 11 00 a. M. Eastern on what happens next in terms of the investigation. Facebook. Com new years d facebook. Com newday is where you find that. The u. S. Is stepping up surveillance over syria trying to get a better handle on isis and its locations. Are air strikes next . So nice, so niiice sweet, sweet st. Thomas nice so nice, so niiice st. Croix, full of pure vibes so nice, so niiice st. 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Air surveillance, how well can air surveillance target isis positions and their activities . Well, i mean, using manned surveillance will provide us with a much better target practice than what weve been dealing with in the recent past, primarily satellite footage and using intel sources so this is a step in the right direction if what were talking about is significantly degrading isis capabilities in syria and thats where they got it all started. They have been working now for months and months to consolidate their territory that they hold in Northern Syria. In fact, they have taken an entire province in syria, so, you know, im afraid when we talk about Mission Creep and the need to try to figure out how to defeat isis. Were not just talking about iraq. If were willing to do this the white house is correct. Weve got to be looking into syria. Sounds like air surveillance is an imprecise science particularly in targeting their activities. If we want to know what isis is doing on the ground, doesnt this require some boots on the ground, even if its a special cosert Operations Force . Yeah, youre absolutely right, yes, it does, and so i think that the white house, they have been spending a lot of time talking about what they are not going to do and from a Strategic Point of view, from a tactical point of view, thats not a good idea when youre talking about facing an enemy like isis. Better to get up and say were going to do what we need to do in concert with our allies and get the job done, rather than box ourselves in, so, air surveillance is is, again, a step in the right direction, but youre right. Were going to need access to to the crowd, whether through our troops or our allies. The Turkish Military, quite frankly, is a key to this area and isis right now is working very hard to take territory along the Turkish Border that they have at times controlled and at times have battled with the Syrian Military over. The Turkish Military and turkish government has a lot at stake here and what we need to be doing, and im sure the administration is working at it, but what we need to be doing is a very aggressive effort to to draw in the jordanians, the turks, the saudis, all those countries that have a very, very significant shortterm interest in what happens here. Syria also has an interest obviously in getting rid of isis. They have warned the u. S. Against any sort of unilateral action or air strikes. If they havent approved it, how do we handle it since we dont want to collaborate with the assad regime, how do we handle it if syria never gives us permission . Youre absolutely correct to point this out this. Aspect could be the most complex Foreign Policy strategic issue that this white house is or has been dealing with. How do we defeat an enemy like isis, a major threat to our National Security as well as obviously to the region, without being drawn into a situation where were supporting bashar assad . As surreal as it sounds. I know for months, again, we have to understand whats been happening in the region, the iranians as an example have had boots on the ground in iraq supporting the former governor of maliki who has now left. You know, you look at the bedfellows that this Current Issue has been creating, its very unusual, but for us, for the u. S. , for the white house n now, it is a major complex issue. How do we do this . How do we move into syria appropriately with our allies, without being seen by our allies without being seen as supporting assad . Syria is asking for the help of the international ministry, heres a statement that the foreign minister put out yesterday. Syria is ready to collaborate and coordinate regionally and internationally to fight terrorism in accordance with the United Nations Security Council decision 2170. If were to take that at face value, and i dont know if we should, it means that theres an opportunity for us to mend fences with this brutal dictator somehow to fight isis . Youre cringing because thats just not possible, is it . Yeah. Well, its possible but it would mean wed have to do a complete left turn and complete 110 on our policy towards assad. I dont believe this white house is going to do that. You know, the way the real world works it may be the most pragmatic solution to turn around and say, yes, as distasteful as it is, maybe we have to work with assad. Again, i dont believe thats going to happen but assad and his crew have been ever since they have started. To some degree frankly when were talking about isis and some of their likeminded minions in syria, they are right, but does that mean that the white house is going to rush into a agreement with assad to work against this particular enemy. I dont see that happening. Strange bedfellows indeed. Thanks for the expertise. Thank you very much. Back over to john. Just one piece of the developments going on overnight. A lot of news were following this morning. Lets get right to it. U. S. Reconnaissance flights could begin over syria at any time. We are well aware of the threat that is posed by isil. The real answer here long term is stable governance in syria and in iraq. This audio allegedly the gunshots fired during the shooting death of 18yearold Michael Brown. Not just the number of gunshots, its how they are fired. We call him big mike. We call him mike mike. He said one day the whole world will know my name. We dont say goodbye. We say good journey until we meet again. Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to nude yale. Im john berman joined again by alisyn camerota. Chris and kate both off. Well begin with breaking news overnight. Exclusive new audio coming to light. It may be from the very moment that the police shot and killed Michael Brown, the unarmed teenager in ferguson, missouri. It was recorded unintentionally during a video chat by a man who lives near the scene of the shooting there. We want you to listen to this. You can hear multiple gunshots trying to ignore the conversation that the man on this is having because its a little confusing but listen to the gunshots right here. You are pretty. [ gunshots ] youre so fine. Just going over some of your videos. How could i forget . [ gunshots. Two sets of shots with a pause in between. Cnn has not independently verified the recording but very, very interesting. Stephanie elam in ferguson has the very latest. Stephanie . Reporter john, when you take a listen to that audio and you hear that group of shots, it may be disturbing for some people to hear, but when you listen to it, it sounds to me like theres six shots and then a pause and then another four. If you take a listen, try not to listen to that man talking and listen to the shots again. You are pretty. [ gunshots ] youre so fine. Just going over some of your videos. How could i forget . [ gunshots. ] the question for several parttime that ive talked to and just about reading this, what was happening in that pause, john . Thats what people want to know. Two sides to that story already. Police say that they believe mike brown was trying to take the weapon away from the Police Officer, but witnesses on the street say thats not what happened. They say that he was actually surrendering and saying that he wasnt armed. So what was happening in that moment. This could be a key point in the investigation if in fact the fbi finds that this audio reporting is true and valid and did happen at the time that mike brown died. Stephanie elam in ferguson for us. Lets talk about the threesecond pause and talk about the new audio. What does it mean for the investigation . Lets bring in danny cevallos, a cnn legal attorney and criminal attorney. Danny, you first heard this video and you thought what . Well, i thought that theres a large number of shots, possibly even more than weve originally thought, and the question i think obviously in everyones mind is why is there a pause. Now, first, is a pause explainable . Yeah, there is a set of facts that would explain a pause and, for example, the assailant could have kept charging as just an example to give, but more likely than not people are going to start thinking any kind of pause would have given the officer a chance to give another order or that Michael Brown might have been submitting so i think the number of shots is problematic and obviously that pause, i think what were also going to see from here is now that its out there, witnesses are going to unconsciously or consciously tailor their testimony now to fit within those parameters because they will be sort of a starting point and i think that you will see, every witness will say, yeah, that coincides with exactly what i said and heres why. Lets listen to it one more time. Our expert Paul Ginsburg we spoke to moments ago counted ten shots. Lets listen again. You are pretty. [ gunshots. ] youre so fine. Just going over some of your videos. How could i forget . [ gunshots ] now, you hear that pause in the middle, the threesecond pause, you say, danny, thats a key moment bass it gave the officer time to what, time to think which gets to the issue of what was a reasonable use of force in that instance . Maybe the first few shots were justified for whatever was going on, but then how do you justify the next series of shots, is that what youre saying . Absolutely. Well, hypothetically, lets say that an assailant was just charging and never stopped charging. That is an example of a set of facts that would explain that threesecond pause. Maybe that Police Officer is waiting to see if a suspect stops charging and im talking about a fictional subject and, on the other hand, a lot of us dont use firearms, so to us that use of deadly force, plus a pause, plus using deadly force again, if you dont use firearms that often, its going to seem a little excessive when you think of all that time to reflect. Even though we dont know whats going on in between. You know, its interesting. Data on firearm use shows that the still plus, the brain is not as quick as we like it to be, that the message to stop shooting and start shooting doesnt move as quickly from the brain to the hand as we think, but does it take three seconds . Well, that may be stretching it. Thats a question that could go ultimately to a jury. Before it gets there though, the question is will this evidence end up before the grand jury, what do you think . Well, thats a great question, and for those people this is a great illustration of why maybe it isnt always the best thing to rush to a grand jury. This appears to be information that was only recently obtained. Maybe Law Enforcement has had it the entire time, but you have to wonder and in speeding to commit this to a grand jury, what other information they may miss because were not going to hear about it for another month or so. In this case, you have to look at whats going to be submitted to the grand jury and how they will perceive it and i really believe that different, reasonable people can perceive this differently especially if they have any background in the military and any background in Law Enforcement. They may take a totally different perspective than someone who doesnt use a firearm ever, and people who have no contact with firearms, i think that their initial reaction is going to be, wow, this many shots, plus a pause. Not knowing much about firearms, seems a little much to me. But, look, there is a sense of facts that would justify those shots including the pause. Since we dont have video. We just dont know. And thats what makes this such a fascinating piece of evidence if it does turn out to in fact be authentic, and it will be, i imagine, a key point if this ever does go to trial. It raises as many questions as it answers, so who does get to answer that question ultimately, is that the jury . Exactly. Like i said, now that witnesses are hearing this audio, not lying, its human nature to conform whatever evidence you have with your story so every witness testimony is going to jive with that audio recording. I can almost guarantee it. Even though their respective stories will be on different ends of the spectrum and in many ways this audio tape may cause more confusion for a jury than it will resolve issues because the audio itself will be played and then theres many witnesses, if theres a trial, who will be talking about how they perceived those gunshots at the time. And, of course, the jury could then project their own emotions and experience into those three subjects. As a defense opportunity you have a lot of experience out there. I get the sense as a defense attorney if you were called on to defend the officer in this case, you find this tape problematic. You know, its a good point. Any number of shots, going back to a jury, a reasonable juror. You think of the number of shots, and i think for every defense attorney thinking about this case, you know, you can put aside the initial stop and put aside all the racial issues. The bottom line is to me this is a case where have you to justify six shots and yesterday that problem was justifying six shots. Today it becomes justifying maybe six or more shots, plus a pause. Three seconds, four seconds, enough time to contemplate. Now, certainly, there may still have been an assailant charging and still could have been a reason for that deadly force, but, yes, you are right. Overnight the Defense Attorneys job in this case becomes quite a bit harder. Really, really interesting, as many as ten shots counted by our audio analyst with a threesecond break in the middle. Danny cevallos, really appreciate your insight. Weigh in on all the developments. Join chris cuomo at 11 00 a. M. In a Facebook Page on our Facebook Page to discuss what happens next that. Address is facebook. Com newday. All right, john. The fight to slow isis being taken to the skies over syria. President obama has given the green light for reconnaissance flights over syria to get a better idea of where the militant group is organizing and how they are training. Will air strikes be the next step . Lets go to barbara star. Shes at pentagon with the latest. Barbara, what are you hearing . Good morning, alisyn. The president has now given the goahead for reconnaissance flights over syria. These could be drones, you be manned aircraft and could even be manned aircraft flying at high altitudes. What the military needs to do now is collect fresh intelligence about where isis is exactly located inside syria. Where are the Training Camps, the concentration of forces, the leadership targets and the command and control facilities. Thats what they are trying to get the best and most president bush intelligence on. Then the president would still have to authorize air strikes and what would trigger that still remains to be determined. The white house not yet making that decision to make that step. One of the big challenges for them is how to do air strikes inside syria without coincidentally perhaps benefiting the assad regime what. Would the goal of air strikes be . U. S. Officials tell us they would be looking to disrupt isis, set them back on their heels and prove that they have no safe haven and keep them from reorganizing and moving forward even further. Isis now controlling a very wide swath of territory across Northern Syria and iraq alisyn. Thanks so much for monitoring that. Well check back in with you. Turning now to new details about the release of american hostage Peter Theo Curtis who was held hostage by a group in syria for two years. A media mogul and former fbi agent played key roles in securing theos freedom. This as theo curtis mother nancy spoke out in an interview with abc news about talking to her son for the First Time Since his release. It was wonderful. Usually he doesnt have a whole lot to say to me, typical guy, hi, mom, yeah, everything is fine, but he was so excited, and he was saying, mom, they are being so nice to me and they have put me in this 12star hotel. He was over the top excited. Joining us now is Peter Theo Curtis former roommate and friend. Matt, great to see you. What do you think i know youve been friends with the Curtis Family for a long time. You and theo were high school roommates, so, of course, you know nancy, his mom. What do you think when you see her reaction to his release. Oh, its very, very thrilling, i have to say, and, you know, shes born the brunt of the hardship over the last couple of years and to see her so thrilled is needless to say very infectious and were just were all ecstatic individually, but for everyone its really nancy im most ecstatic for so im very happy. Can you tell us what happened when you got the news that your friend theo was going to be free . It was we were actually down at the beach that day, and my wife had gone home to pick up a few things and she heard on on voice mail theos cousin left a message, guess what, guess what, guess what, theos free and he came sprinting up to me saying hes free, hes free. Very emotional moment which it continues to be for me. Okay. We can only imagine what these past two years have been like for you, his friend and for his family. I know you likened it having to live with a friend being held in captivity and not knowing his fate. Youve likened it to having a friend with a terminal illness. How so . Well, well, youre in a very powerful situation. It was incredibly the thing thats so difficult about it is you cant talk to him. He lives he lived almost in this apparition state for me for a long time. He would come up in my thoughts really throughout the day at the most unexpected times and you would want to reach out and talk to him and from time to time i would actually email him knowing that it would never come back. Just to say, you know, im thinking of you and hopefully ill get a response in the next few days but hes got some catching to do. He sure does. Sure hes happy to have gotten all the emails. You and your family must have been panicstricken and devastated when you heard about james foley being beheaded and killed while in captivity. What was that like . Well, it was a it was incredibly difficult moment because, you know, for the first nine months we heard nothing at all, and i had known that theo was in an extreme war zone. At that point i in my heartfelt he was gone and it was very difficult so in many ways knowing he was alive but held by an Extremist Group was very difficult. Hearing about jim foley it just underscored the unbelievable risks that theo is facing. I knew that negotiations were had been progressing at that point prior to jim foleys killing so there had been a moment of optimism but needless to say we all knew how precarious that situation was, and as you can imagine it was not absent any relation to theo it was a horrifying act to all of us, but with theo in mind it was really doubly so and i think for all of us close to him. Do you think that his family lost hope at that point that theo would get out alive. I dont think so. The main reason being that theo was with al nusra and jim foley was with isis and i think to all of us their flavors of the same ice cream, but but to the extent that there were differences in terms of their approach and degree of extremism, i think they still held out more hope while still being incredibly scared for theo. Do you have any idea when youll see theo. I dont know, but its going to be soon, and im sure looking forward to it, i have to say. And its going to be sweet. Matt, thanks for sharing your personal thoughts on all of this. Really appreciate your insight into the family for us. Thank you, alisyn. Thank you. Best of luck. Wow, its great to hear from him and how happy they are now and his mom who seems over the moon, theos mom seems like i cant believe he sent emails to his friend, you know, even though he knew they would never be responded to when his friend was in captivity. Thats amazing. And able to put such a personal face on it because it seems other worldly because this brings it right back into focus. Real people dealing with a loved one who is in captivity. I know. Worst nightmare. I know. Lets take a look at headlines at 12 minutes past the hour. In the middle east we begin with an israeli air strike blasting the residentialer to in gaza overnight. Palestinian Officials Say 29 were injured in the latest attack. The Israeli Military said the building housed a hamas command center. Ukraine says it has captured ten russian soldiers who crossed the border into the donetsk region, but Russian Media says the soldiers were on patrol and likely crossed over by mistake. All of this as ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko is expected to meet with russian president Vladimir Putin in belarus today. The two leaders are attending a regional trade summit. They will meet also to discuss the ongoing crisis in Eastern Ukraine. 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Want to discuss this now more with republican congressman mike turner, a Senior Member of the House Armed Services committee. Congressman, thanks so much for being with us. John, thanks for having me. I want to try to cover some ground quickly here. Yes or no, do you support u. S. Air strikes in syria targeting isis right now . Well, i think what the Administration Needs to do is come forward with a plan. Right now they have no coordinated plan and no stated goals and objectives. The administration has inconsistent statements as to whether or not they see isis as a threat to the western United States. British Prime Minister cameron clearly restating that isis is a threat to the west. This administration seems to be waffling on what the threat is and how to approach it so its very difficult to galvanize the American Public or certainly congress behind the administration without a strategy in place. You are a leader among republicans in congress. What do you support . Do you support air strikes right now targeting isis in syria . Well, i think the president , if he puts together a plan to defeat isis, he has said we need to defeat them. It will require action within syria itself but haphazard military action is not a strategy or a plan and we certainly dont see from this administration a policy. As i look to both syria and iraq, the president has not put together a coordinated goals and objectives and a statement of where hes going to comply with american diplomatic or military effort. These isolated military actions can only result in more difficulty. The president needs to put together his National Security team with the department of defense and put together a plan. You seem to be suggesting something more comprehensive than just the air strikes. Maybe special Operations Forces on the ground in syria . Well, at this point i think no one should say that were going to go invade iraq and syria and put troops on the ground. What we do need though is a plan and jumping all the way to military boots on the ground would be really irresponsible but the president cannot do these isolated strikes without working in a coordinated fashion with our allies, with those in the region, certainly with iraq itself, to have any goals and objectives achieved. We have to defeat isis. General dempsey has said that isis a strong threat to the United States and these isolated acts that the president is taking have no coordinated plan or execution. And i do understand and i hear your criticism of the administration, but you certainly are a leader in congress, youre on the Armed Services committee. Sure. Its your job as well to think about these things and think about what you would support, not support. Do you think the president needs to put a plan forth before congress that you need to vote on before further military action . Well, i think the president certainly has enough authority currently militarily to take action. What he doesnt haved is the moral resolve or the plan that he needs in order to be able to execute that. People are confused, both in the United States and in congress and i think throughout the world as to what the president s goals and objectives are. Until he does, that we certainly dont have any degree of confidence of success. Be assured. This is a real threat. It is a real threat to the United States and to the west, and the president seems to be taking an isolated approach to this as opposed to a coordinated plan. He needs to sit down with his National Security team, department of defense and put forth a plan and strategy where the congress and American Public can say no only do we understand what the threat is but we understand how to defeat it and then hell garner support. If he called you on the phone, congressman and said what do you think we should do i had clark kent irvin, a very respected man, defense analyst, who says the United States needs to consider partnering with Bashar Al Assad perhaps and maybe it is worth it to partner with assad to fight isis. Would you support that . Again, it depends on how this begins to unfold but i would take the president back to his cairo speech because in his cairo speech he laid out what his plan was for iraq in addition to withdrawing military force, working for a strong and stable iraq, an iraq that can have territorial integrity and selfdetermination, independence and pursuing islamist extremists to hold them at bay. Those three goals and objectives still apply today. The president walked away from them which is why we have the problem we do in syria and iraq and he needs to reapply his own policies stated from the back of the beginning of the administration. Im getting a lot from you what the president has or has not done but not a lot what you think yourself. Bashar al assad, a bigger threat than isis or is isis a bigger threat than the Syrian Regime . Well, assad is a threat to his own people and isis is a threat to the west and to other nations. The reason why youre getting so much about what the president should do because he is the commander in chief. He is actually in control and has responsibility for our Foreign Policy and he has put us in a situation where because of the lack of definition, the indecisiveness, the uncertainty, the culture of uncertainty that the administration has allowed to unfold, we have this growing problem that the president needs to address. Colonel dempsey says absolute threat to the United States. The president needs to put together a plan that says how hes going to address and garner the support to lessen that threat to the United States you said at the beginning, you said assad is only a threat to his own people and isis a threat to the world, including the United States. Does it mean it may be worth giving him some support or at least having a Loose Partnership with Bashar Al Assad against isis . Well, i think, again, thats jumping way far ahead. Because this president doesnt have a plan doesnt mean you have to say we have to partner with assad. Certainly i would turn, as the president should be turning, to general dempsey saying i need a plan. What is this threat, what are the capabilities and how can they be contained and defeated . Id be incredibly surprised if the president in turning to our military would have them come back and say we have no other options but to partner with assad, but certainly they have no options until the president is willing to work in a coordinated fashion to put together a plan. The legs planning, the less our options are. Well, congressman turner, we appreciate you coming on and talking about what the president is doing and not doing. In the future i also hear what you think on some of these subjects about what the u. S. Should and shouldnt do as well. Great to have you here, sir. Next up on new day, a new hope for peace this morning in gaza. Could israel and hamas be ready to return to a ceasefire . Were live on the ground with the very latest. Plus, the stars were out for tvs biggest night, and a few familiar favorites took center stage once again. Well look at what won big and who was shut out. [ female announcer ] birdhouse plans. Nacho pans. Glass on floors. Daily chores. 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It was recorded inadvertently during a video chat by a man, an unnamed man works lives near the scene of the shooting in ferguson, missouri that. Man asked that his identity not be revealed. Cnn cannot independently confirm the recordings authenticity, the revelation happening on the same day that thousands of people packed a church for an emotional funeral for Michael Brown. President obama will be in charlotte, north carolina, today to address the american legions national convention. The president is expected to comment on the sacrifices made by veterans. Tomorrow the Veterans Affairs department is expected to release an inpersonal investigation into patient care delays. Early reports indicate it will say theres no proof that any veterans died as a result of the long waits for care at the phoenix v. A. Hospital. As youll recall, cnn first reported the problems in medical care at the v. A. Hospital in phoenix. Former fbi director louie freeh is in a New Hampshire hospital after being seriously injured in a car accident. Officials tell cnn freeh underwent surgery for unspecified injuries. State police say his suv went off the road and struck a mailbox before it landed in some bushes. Freeh was director of the fbi from depth 1993 to june 2001. All right. Well keep an eye on that. Michaela, thanks so much. Meanwhile, israeli air strikes showing no signs of letting up in gaza. The latest palestinian Officials Say killed nine and dozens more were wounded. This was in a blast that nearly leveled one of gazas tallest buildings, this as dozens of rockets were launched at israel overnight, and there are reports that a new ceasefire deal could be close. Cnns ben wedeman is live in jerusalem with the latest. Hi, ben. Reporter hi, alisyn. Yes, it could be close, but weve seen ceasefire come and go so far, and nobody is overly optimistic at this point. Apparently the egyptians are continuing to push their initiative. Weve heard from Mousa Al Marzuk that the Egyptian Initiative is acceptable to them, but at moment theres no israeli negotiators in cairo so its difficult to see how its going to move ahead until they get there. Now, regarding the situation in gaza, you saw these two high rise buildings by gaza standards, one of them 14 floors, almost completely leveled. This appears to be part of what is the israeli version of shock and awe in gaza. Instead of what we saw earlier in the conflict, individual homes or offices are being hit by missiles, now they are just taking down entire buildings where according in one instance the israelis say there was a hamas command and control complex but our crew in gaza said that in one of those high rises that was brought down, there are also offices, stores and residences as well that were destroyed overnight alisyn. Ben wedeman, thank you for that update from the location. Thank you. 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For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. See Car Insurance in a whole new light. Call Liberty Mutual insurance. Breaking overnight. Cnn has exclusively obtained alleged audio of the shooting of Michael Brown record inadvertently during a video chat. The unnamed man says he handed the tape over to the fbi. Take a listen. You are pretty. [ gunshots ] you are so fine. Just going over some of your videos. How could i forget . [ gunshots ] sort of have to ignore the conversation and listen to the background. You can hear several shots. Cnn cannot independently verify the authenticity of that tape. Joining me right now reverend charles ewing, Michael Browns great uncle, and he joins us live from ferguson this morning. Sir, good morning. I know you had a busy day yesterday. I thank you for joining us this morning. Thank you very much. It was very busy day. It was an important day, too, and i really want to talk to you about that and a eulogy you delivered, beautiful and heartfelt eulogy, and i first want to, and i know that this is a painful subject because this is your great nephew, youve had a chance to hear this audio. Weve just played it again. Im curious what your thoughts are. What comes to mind when you hear that audio . When i heard the audio with the number of shots and regarding what the autopsy report is stating six shots, but we know, according to some witnesses, that there were more shots than six shots, and im not surprised when the audio video came out, not saying its valid right now, but if it is valid im not surprised with the amount of shots that were fired that day at my nephew. The unnamed man has a lawyer who told cnn here that the fbi has a copy of that audio and that they are looking into it as well. Our audio expert says that there were ten shots fired. We know that six hit your great nephew. I wonder have the parents of michael, have leslie and Michael Brown sr. , have they heard this audio . Well, i havent talked to them last night because we had such a full day at the funeral and by me very tired i went home and laid down and i didnt get the report until later on last night from cnn news with don lemon, and i was just in awe of the findings of the guy coming forth, whoever he is, with the audio tape, and i listened to it over and over and over again, and i myself as i laid there i counted the number of shots, according to the reporting, there were six shots and then five more, a total of 11 shots, and my concern was the pause between the six shots and then the five shots. It was almost like, you know, why was there such a pause there . The pause is a real concern. Theres a threesecond pause between theres a threesecond pause between those initial shots. Well play it one more time for you. You can hear a pause. Our audio experts says there was ten and the one other, the 11th as you heard, he believes thats an echo. Lets take a listen. You are pretty. [ gunshots. ] youre so fine. Just going over some of your videos. How could i forget . [ gunshots ] obviously, investigators will have to listen to that and comb through that and get their audiologist on it to hear and try to determine what that pause was. Are you concerned what the reaction is going to be if this is going to enrage people . I am very concerned because of the fact we had buried my nephew yesterday, and im very concerned about the actions in a community with these later findings, and im very concerned, and were praying for peace in a community and in a nation. I was sharing we as a nation. We should set an example before the whole world that we must come together and healing can only take place if people are honest, when things are disclosed it breeds more animosity within peoples hearts and it causes distrust in the community as well. People have said theres no justice, theres no peace without justice. I want to turn to your eulogy yesterday, very heartfelt eulogy. They chose you to deliver that for the family because we know it was a very, very personal day in a very public fashion, very hard to have to deal with that for the family and those that loved Michael Brown. I want to quote something that you said yesterday, a bit of a rallying cry. You said theres a cry being made from the ground, not just for Michael Brown but for the Trayvon Martins and the children at sandy hook elementary school, from the columbine massacre, for blackonblack crime. You made the remembrance, your remembrance of your great nephew michael more than about just his death. Yes, i did, because the nation is hurting, and we have to realize that something has to be done, you know, with the guns and with the crime thats taking place throughout the nation. My heart goes out to all people of the nation of the United States of america, and we have to come together as a nation, you know. I still hold true our flag, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We should set a precedent and example for the whole world. The whole world is watching america, and we must show them an example that we as a nation, as a whole, black, white, in regards of what nationality that we should come together as a people to in order to heal the hurt within ourself and to come together, sit down at the table and come to an agreement. We must be our brothers keeper. This is one of the the part of the message that i wanted to portray. We have to look out for one another. Pastor ewing, a very moving speech yesterday. You also mentioned that youre great nephew had said prophetically that some day the world will know my name, and sadly that is true. Thank you so much for joining us. I know this is an exhausting time both emotionally and physically for you and your family, and hopefully you can get some rest as the Investigation Continues and we get closer to justice. All right . Thank you, and god bless you and god bless america. Amen to that. All right. Were going to take a short break. Up next on new day, the emmys, served up some memorable moments last night. One gem was a bit of a seinfeld reunion of sorts that took that surprising turn. The superstar lip lock between julie Louie Dreyfuss and breaking bads Bryan Cranston. I didnt see that coming. I dont know about you. This is the third consecutive emmy win for julie Louie Dreyfuss. Over her career shes won five emmys and had 18 nominations. Previous wins have been for seinfeld they really went for it. That was one of the most memorable moments from last nights emmy awards. Brian canston gave a passionate smooch and it looked like surprising smooch to his seinfeld costar. He made a bit appearance on it, julie Louie Dreyfuss as she won the emmy for her role in veep. Breaking bad is off the air and still racking up statues winning for best drama series as well as best supporting actor and actress. Joining us to break down the highs and lows is Nischelle Turner. Good morning, guys. What were the highlights of last night . Well, there were a lot. Where would you like for me to begin . You guys were talking about the kiss with julie Louie Dreyfuss and Bryan Cranston after she won for best actress in a comedy and i heard you said it looked like she was surprised. You dont think so. I think that was long planned. Remember last year when julie Louie Dreyfuss won, she had the whole bit planned with tony hale who came up with her, hold her purse and feed her lines. The whole thing was planned. Her costar reed scott told me on the red carpet before the show that if she were to win, they did believe she had another really good bit planned because everybody was asking what would she do to top last year . Thats a good scoop. Thats good scoop, nischelle. You know, remember the bit earlier with hem when she said oh, you look like this guy that i used to that played the dentist that i went out with on seinfeld. Yeah. And he said, yeah. Well, we kissed. And shes like oh, did we. There you go, thats culmination. He wanted to make her remember. Other than that smooch, any other big surprises last night . Well, i think i dont know if it was so much of a surprise, but i think it was more the anticipation was building, would modern family win for the fifth Consecutive Year in a row tying a record, and, in fact, they did. The thought there was because orange is the new black came in and enter that had category of best comedy series, which everyone said is that really a comedy, i guess its kind of a dramedy, when they entered the fray, people thought orange is the new black is the new hot thing and might take it away from modern family. Tried and true. Modern family won last night, and i have to tell you, last nights show was a bit of a win for Network Television. Weve heard cable is taking everything away from network because theyre able to push the boundaries. We saw Network Television come back last night in a big way and i think it was really good to see. They didnt get shut out completely because uzo udoba won at the Creative Arts emmys the week before and won for a guest starring role. Lets say the second year for them, they had 31 nominations, so i think that is still a big win for netflix. Can we say how great the ladies looked at the red carpet, a far cry from the prison uniforms. Uduba was working it last night in the red dress last night. Matthew mcconaughey, not only good looking but wins everything except, again, not so much last night and they kind of made fun of him a little bit. A little bit . Jimmy kimmel roasted him big time and it was hilarious. One the best moments i think of the show. It was just that funny. Jimmy kimmel basically told him to go home because he didnt belong there, he was a big movie star and last night was the night for Television Personalities and he was encroaching on their territory. He said because matthew lost a lot of weight for Dallas Buyers Club jimmy looked at him, i almost didnt recognize you, youve got son fat since the oscars because hes gained some of the weight back. There was this big anticipation in the best actor in a drama category. Almost seemed to be a twohorse race between Matthew Mcconaughey and Bryan Cranston. It was Bryan Cranstons night and he was visibly moved and good to see because Bryan Cranston besides being one of the best actors in hollywood is one of the nicest men in hollywood and he had i tell you breaking bad is a great show but he had some of the richest material this season to submit to the emmys. I didnt see any way that Bryan Cranston wouldnt win this award. What a tribute to Robin Williams and the perfect man for the job, too. Yes, everybody was wondering what they would do, how they would aproep it and i think billy krigsal came out and spoke from the heart. You could tell there was some genuine love and friendship there, and they played some of Robin Williams best moments and at the end they played a poignant moment. Lets listen to it. Some of the brightest of our celestial bodies are actually extinct now. Their energy long since cooled, but miraculously, because they float in the heavens, so far away from us now, their beautiful light will continue to shine on us forever, and the glow will be so bright, it will warm your heart, it will make your eyes glisten and youll think to yourselves, Robin Williams, what a concept. Beautiful. What a concept. Billy crystal said it was hard for him to even talk about it because robin had been a part of his life for 40 years and one of his best friends for 40 years, so it was so difficult for him to even speak those words. He did a good job. He seemed supposed, he seemed poignant and poetic and compo d composed. And heartfelt. We have to go guys but i talked about uzo oduba in red but happy birth day to the lady in red in the studio. I give my love to michaela. Thank you. Thanks so much, darling. Thanks, nischelle. New developments on the fight against isis in syria. Could air surveillance lead to air strikes . 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Cnn exclusive, an audiotape allegedly of the moment Michael Brown was shot. The gunshots heard for the first time, how many shots were there, and what we make of the pause in the middle. Well have that tape for you. Modern dynasty modern family wins fifth for the big time. We have all the best jokes, that kiss, and Billy Crystals touching tribute to Robin Williams. Your new day continues right now. Announcer this is new day with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. Everyones fixing their hair. Good morning. Welcome back to new day, tuesday, august 26th, 8 00 in the east. Im john berman joined by alisyn camerota. You look fine every day. Back at you. Big news this morning, president obama looking for eyes in the sky in the fight against isis. He has approved reconnaissance frigts ov flights over syria to get a better idea of where militants are staged in training. Will the president limit air strikes to iraq where they are at least for now . Cnns Barbara Starr has more from the pentagon. Good morning, john. The president authorizing reconnaissance flights over syria to gather fresh intelligence about isis movements but the question now as you say is what will trigger a decision by the president to proceed with air strikes. U. S. Reconnaissance flights could begin other syria at any time according to u. S. Officials, using possibly drones, u2 spy planes or f18s. The pentagon is drafting options to strike inside syria, but the u. S. Wont warn the Syrian Government who says carrying out air strikes without their consent would be a breach of its sovereignty and an act of aggression. Its unclear, however, how much the president s top military adviser, general Martin Dempsey, supports immediate u. S. Military action. Spokesman confirmed dempsey is preparing options to address isis both in iraq and syria, with a variety of military tools, including air strikes. But the lack of action so far is prompting critics, like hawkish republican senator Lindsey Graham to charge the white house is trying to minimize the threat we face in order to justify not changing a failed strategy. Before any bombs could fall, the u. S. Has to get fresh intelligence. We dont talk about reconnaissance and Intelligence Matters but in general when you are thinking about conducting operations like that, you certainly want to get as much of a view on the ground as you can. My name is Peter Theo Curtis, a journalist in the city of boston, mas mass. Reporter the debate comes as american peter thee row curtis held hostage by al nusra for nearly two years in syria gets his first taste of freedom. He was over the top excited, i think obviously hes, he has to decompress. Hes been through so much. A senior u. S. Official told me a short time ago if air strikes are approved by president obama, the goal will be to disrupt isis to keep them from moving their fighter, their equipment, their weapons around, especially across that border between syria and iraq. John . Its the first stage. Whats next is key. Barbara starr at the pentagon thanks so much. Now a cnn exclusive, in the investigation into the shooting of Michael Brown, we are about to play you new audio which could be from the very Moment Police shot brown in ferguson, missouri. This was recorded inadvertently by a man who lives near the scene during a video chat that he was having. Cnn has not been able to independently verify this recording. Cnns Stephanie Elam is in ferguson with the latest. Tell us more, stephanie. Reporter alisyn, what youre about to hear may be disturbing for some but try to listen past the man speaking and take a listen to what you hear behind him. Listen closely. You are pretty. [ gunfire ] youre so fine. Just going over some of your videos. How could i forget. Reporter this audio obtained exclusively by cnn allegedly the gunshots fired during the shooting death of 18yearold Michael Brown. Lawyer for a ferguson resident says her client recorded this audio while video chatting with a friend while the unarmed teen was shot by ferg on police. His lawyer says he was questioned by the fbi about the audio. Listen again as you hear a series of gunshots fired, a brief pause, followed by another round of shots. You are pretty. [ gunfire ] youre so fine. Just going over some of your videos. How could i forget . Its not just the number of gunshots, its how theyre fired and that has a huge relevance on how this case might finally end up. Reporter cnn cannot independently verify the authenticity of the tape and reached out to the fbi for confirmation. Facing the possibility of charges from the shooting, 28yearold officer darren wilson, the grand jury not expected to return a decision until midoctober. Heavy police presence, protests and violence on fergusons streets thrust the Small Community into the national spotlight. Today is for peace, peace and quiet. Reporter inside the friendly temple missionary Baptist Church monday a somber homegoing to lay Michael Brown to rest. Yes, we call him the gentle giant. We call him big mike. We call him mike mike. He said one day the whole world will know my name. Reporter standing before her sons foe foes and casket his mother wiping away tears. Among the thousands gathered inside were friends and family and many who came to pay their respects to the slain teen, having never known big mike personally. Were still not defeated. Reporter including wellknown public figures like the reverend Jesse Jackson and spike lee, who tweeted during the service our brother mike brown st. Louis cardinals hat lays upon his casket here at the homegoing. On this day, protesters stayed sigh let and mourners were reminded of the need for change. Michael browns blood is crying from the ground, crying for vengeance, crying for justice. Reporter and if the fbi does find that that record something authentic, what may play into the investigation is that pause between those two groups of shots. What people want to know is what exactly was happening during that time, jal salisyn. Thanks, Stephanie Elam. We wring in criminal defense and hln analyst joey jackson and Paul Ginsburg, an audio expert who has examined the new recording for us. Lets play the audio one more tirm and paulily get your analysis. You are pretty. [ gunfire ] youre so fine. Just going over some of your videos. [ gunfire ] ha how could i forget . Paul, what do you hear in the background of that video chat with that man . Okay, i was up pretty early this morning going over this, a number of times, in both real time and slow speed to precisely measure what we have. Essentially, there are six gunshots, there is a pause that i measure at 3. 02 seconds, followed by four more shots, same type of weapon, and about the same distance. Okay, six shots, a threesecond pause, four shots. Thats different than what we had heard before. Correct. Joey, we had heard that Michael Brown had been shot six times but also heard from witnesses that there were stray gunfire found in homes along that street. So thats fitting. How do you think this changes the investigation . Big development, alisyn and heres why. What happens is the officers, whether or not hes criminally culpable will turn on two things, did he act reasonably and did he act in a necessary way. So you examine that and then you look and examine the shots. Now, when you look at them, youre going to have to determine, a, what was the threat that was being posed to him at the time those shots were fired. B, what was the immediacy of that threat, and c, was the force used proportionate to any threat and so the big question becomes for the grand jurors as they analyze this, what he did, examine exactly what the officer did, were those shots excessive and if if the answer is yes, then it becomes problematic for the defense. Can this be fitting with what we heard from officer wilsons side which is that mike brown turned towards him and the officer perceived him to be charging towards him. Could that account for the threesecond pause and more shots . It could. There will be a variety of evidence presented and sometimes evidence is conflicting and ultimately ballistic evidence would identify the number of shots but audio is important because it helps the jurors grip it, it helps them understand it, it helps them internalize is so it could explain based upon the pause that he was charging, Michael Brown, towards him or it could not explain that and show the force was excessive, that depends upon all the evidence as presented. Paul, you have analyzed scores of gunshots, including those from crime scenes, i should let our viewers know you were involved with the newtown massacre, analyzing some of those gunshots. How instrumental do you think this audio will be in the investigation . Well, i agree that it can become a very crucial piece of evidence especially relating to credibility of the officer and other witnesses, so well have to see how it turns out. Right now, there are six shots, three seconds, and another four shots. Joey, what do you think it changes . Well it changes the equation in terms of the excessiveness of the force or the appropriateness of the force, seen as you look at it, different witness also say things differently and perceive things differently, but what is a fact will be the amount of shots you hear on the audio and people forensically could determine how many there are. Ultimately when you examine the officers conduct, the questions the grand jurors are going to ask is did what the officer did, was it absolutely necessary in order to end the threat that Michael Brown posed if he posed a threat at the time, and so when they examined that, based upon the amount of the shots, will it be viewed as excessive or will it be viewed as necessary and thats the critical question. Paul, you were saying theres another level of examination i dont know what were hearing in the tape and beyond what youve done this morning on your graph that weve put up, there is another level that investigators can go to determine more. Yes. Of course what they can do is try to recreate this type of recording by putting an ipad or a recorder at the location where this was made, and then having people go to the actual site of the shooting and fire six times, pause, fire another four shots, and then we can overlay the different wave forms and see whether, in fact, they agree. Alisyn, critical to the case will be the officers state of mind at the time he was firing the shots, what was he perceiving . Was he perceiving a threat . Was this overkill or was it something that he needed to do to preserve his life. Is he going to say he was perceiving a threat and it sounds like if youre firing off that many shots in that rapidfire succession that he felt, you can deduce afraid for his life. Sure, could you say anything, alisyn. The issue is whether it jives with the other evidence and so that may be true that he was fearing for his life. However, it depends on what the other witnesses say. Was he fearing at the time the hands were up or was he fearing because he was being bumrushed as has been suggested and that will be seen as the investigation unfolds. Fascinating, new developments. Joey jackson thanks so much. Paul ginsburg we appreciate it. We want to you weigh in on your thoughts on this new development, so you can join chris cuomo at 11 00 a. M. Eastern on our Facebook Page for a chat about what happens next, as you know, chris has been covering this from the beginning. Its facebook. Com newday and tweet all of us, find m me alisyncamerota. In the middle east, palestinian Officials Say new israeli air strikes destroyed one of ngata zhas tallest apartment and official buildings. Israel says the building was the hamas command center. 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Welcome back to new day, everyone. The United States now one step closer to taking military action against isis in syria. President obama authorized air surveillance over syria and while that country says it will accept u. S. Help fighting islamic terrorists, syrias warning the United States against taking unilateral action inside syrian territory. We want to discuss this and some other issues with congressman steven cohen, a democrat from tennessee. Thanks for being with us here. Nice to be here. Lets talk about syria first, the United States conducting surveillance flights over syria, air strikes could possibly follow. Would you support air strikes against isis now . I think isis is a definite problem for the world. They are, desirous of setting up a caliphate dangerous to our security and freethinking people everywhere so i think its important that we take action, and i think that the Defense Department and the president can come up with a strategy harmful to isis and not necessarily favorable toward assad Something Like air strikes. Exactly and i think well see them. You recall last year the United States was considering bombing the Syrian Regime going after assad himself. You thought it needed congressional approval. Do you think any action against isis requires congressional approval . Isis claims to be a state. Syria is a state. Isis claims to be one. I support the president s action and see no reason to come to congress because if he does it will become a circus. Congress is dysfunctional and no matter what the president does, the republicans will oppose it and find reason to find fault. Theres no reason to do that. This is the real world. I think about the evils that are in the present and the threats to our security, the problems in ukraine, the problems with iran and nuclear armaments, the problems in the middle east, with he need to act and act with, support our president. Interesting, democrats also say it should get congressional as well, senator tim cain is calling for a vote. I think we need to take action and i think congress has become dysfunctional. I want to move on now to ferguson, the shooting there, Michael Brown, 18 years old, his homegoing ceremony was yesterday, a moving ceremony, many people watched. I know this is an issue youve been think being a great deal over the last several weeks. I want to bring you up to speed on the latest news reporting at cnn. Cnn obtained alleged audio of what could be the moments that Michael Brown was shot. We havent been able to verify the authenticity of it, but it is very interesting. I want to you take a quick listen. You are pretty. [ gunfire ] youre so fine. Just going over some of your videos. [ gunfire ] how could i forget . Now, you heard a man talking there, this is being recorded during some kind of video chat but what you did hear in the background according to audio analysts, ten shots fired, could have been by the Police Officer, if this is an authentic tape. We heard before Michael Brown was hit six times. Well, the officer potentially could have missed, but the issue isnt really of that awe then c thennicity of the audio, its the fact africanamericans are shot with police not resulting to deadly force as a last means after exhausting all reasonable means of apprehension. There are shootings in this country, police have a tough job and we need to have civil order but there are too many killings and this man was unarmed, he could have been tasered, shot in the leg. We all say you shoot in the middle of the cavity because its the best target, its the best if youre apprehending a felon because there could be a risk to somebody else down the line. With Michael Brown there was no risk to anybody. You could have plastered his calves and then stopped. You brought up an interesting term, exhausting all reasonable means. You have a lot of experience, you thought about this for years and years. What does that mean at a National Level . How do you get that discussion going . Well, the congressional black caucus, elijah cummings, congressman from maryland, suggested a police czar, somebody to give direction to the Police Departments that get federal funding. Theres a lot of federal funding in Police Departments, there should be better direction and better carrying out of the use of the federal funds and i think thats a possibility. The police are, sounds like, federal Central Control at some level over local Police Forces, which traditionally have been its not going to happen. The reality is the republicans would never put it to a vote. There needs to be more ties to grants and other grants to see theyre used for the proper purposes. The military equipment thats gone out is improper. I think some of the times i think policemen probably just like to shoot the m17s for sport. Policemen, theyve got a tough job, i support police but at the same time they like guns. Lot of people in america like guns. The police fire at guns at people just no, just recreational stuff. The m17s have hardly ever been used by a Police Department in this country. They were used as a standup tool to intimidate people in ferguson but thats the only time ive seen them. I dont think theyre actually used. I think people get them, go out and use them for sport. The president called for review of a lot of the military equipment purchased or given to local Police Forces around the country. You want congressional hearings on this subject and others. What do you think the focus should be . Well, the focus should be the necessity of it. I can see a possibility in some community where you have a terror situation. You could have an oklahoma city, and there could be a standoff and a Situation Police need some type of special equipment. Generally in that situation you have the National Guard called out and take action, but there should be limitations on what any of that equipment could be used for, and there should be some certifiable need for the equipment in the community. One of my smaller communities, 15 m17s. Its absurd. What do you think would be the one thing that could be done by congress, by you, maybe that, would keep us from having this conversation one year from now, where you would see another black kid shot at . Well i tried to do something about it in 2008. I introduced and passed a resolution for the United States apologizing for slavery and jim crow. Did not pass the senate because Sam Brownback put language in unnecessary about reparations because it never dealt with that. I wanted to get a discussion of race in this country started, the president talked about it and also in 2008 in philadelphia. That discussion needs to have taken place. Its a shame it hasnt. It still needs to take place and with he need to have a major discussion on it and take action. There is a real problem in america with differences in opinions and opportunities for people based on race, and africanamericans have been redlined on capital, red lined where they live, redlined on opportunity over the years and there needs to be an effort to bring these people forward. We do a lot of things for people in foreign nations and dont do enough for our own. Youre not saying an apology about jim crow would change policing, youre saying it would be the background to changing the part of Police Something part of the problem coming through the years. Its been 246 years of slavery, nearly 100 years of jim crow and after jim crow its been a slow, slow, slow slog, and we need more promise zone grants, more commutations from the president , i encourage him to do, because were warehousing people in prison as part of the drug war, basically a racebased, starting with hispanics in the 30s and with nixon, went to africanamericans. Theres a lot of problems based on race in this country and a lot of expense and a lot of libertarians behind the argument as well. You wring up a lot of very big issues that are a subject for discussion and need discussion going forward. I want to mention something im in this chair, the last time i was in this care with chris cuomo and cuomo and jackie rose who handled the situation i was in a year ago they deserve a emmy. 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President obama authorized reconnaissance flights over syria, this move is seen as a possible precursor to air strikes against isis in the warravaged nation. Exclusive new audio to cnn said to be from the very Moment Police shot and killed unarmed teenager Michael Brown. In it you hear apparent gunfire, a pause, then more shots. Cnn cannot independently confirm the veracity of the audio. Russia and ukraine leaders will meet to discuss the conflict in Eastern Ukraine, after ukraine says it captured ten russian soldiers who allegedly crossed the border. An israeli air strike blasted a residential tower in gaza, palestinian officials said, nine people were killed, 20 others injured. And primary elections being held today in arizona, vermont and florida, with a runoff for a house seat in oklahoma. Some of the primaries could affect the balance of power in the House Chamber next year. And we update the five things to know so visit newdaycnn. Com for the latest. Alisyn . Thanks. Theres trouble in the tropics, because hurricane cristobal has formed in the atlantic, with sustained 75mileperhour winds. Meteorologist Indra Petersons is here to tell us how it will affect the east coast. This is the third system of the atlantic season, all three of them hurricanes. Cristobal is a category 1 hurricane, weak at 75 miles per hour. 74 milesperhour makes it a cat 1 hurricane. Wednesday going between the outer banks and bermuda and staying a category 1 hurricane until finally it dissipates in some of the cooler waters. Even though its offshore it doesnt mean well not be feeling the effects on the east coast. Wave heights five to seven feet toward the outer banks and the other side is the strong rip currents. You have cristobal out there, youre talking about all of the waves and High Pressure and a lot of people are heading to the beach early, especially ahead of maybe the last week of summer before School Starts and that is the east coast. Lets take to you the west coast. This was a huge story, originally a cat 5 storm, marie was out there, this was huge, talking about the waves impacting Southern California starting today, lasting all the way even in through thursday. This is unusual for them, 10 to 15foot sets will be out there, talking about the threat for beach erosion and possible destruction to the piers and some of the beachfront homes. This is not something they typically see. Im terrified people will try to look at the waves and tall takes is one of the sneaker waves that will take lives dont do it. Thanks, indra. Next up for us on new day, modern family and breaking pad the big winners at the emmy awards and some memorable moments, some really good ones. Stay with us. So why are we so obsessed with turbo . Because theres nothing more exhilarating than a powerful ride. And you can get that in places you might not expect. Like the passat. And also in the funtodrive jetta. 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Syrias foreign minister said syria is ready to collaborate and coordinate regionally and internationally to fight terrorists in accordance to the United Nations Security Council decision 2170. Lets bring in chief International Correspondent Christiane Amanpour to discuss all of this. Christiane, great to see you. Good morning, alisyn. It sounds like president owe about ama has a couple of bad options, either go it alone in syria against assads warning or somehow turn assad into an ally. How do you see the path forward . Well, i think there is very, very little doubt that they will not be turning assad into an ally. Everyone from general martin derpcy, the Top Commander in the United States, to the British Foreign secretary have said that that is a no go area. With he cannot turn assad into an ally, even if we have a common enemy, which is isis. They dont, they believe they dont need permission from syria to attack isis strongholds inside syria, and of course they know exactly where isis is. Isis controls racca province in syria and controls a huge swathe of land inside syria and iraq, which the British Foreign secretary said is a terrorist state which is going to be launched, they are absolutely convinced it is going to be used to launch attacks on britain, on europe, and perhaps even on the United States as well so theyre saying it has to be addressed now. You interviewed u. N. Secretarygeneral ban kimoon yesterday. What was his suggestion on how to combat iceis . Well, look, he is not a military man. He doesnt believe in military action, but he said that the intolerable barbarism of what isis has been doing has to be confronted. That requires political will and International Consensus and as you know there hasnt been International Consensus over the last three years of this war that has raged in syria, which is the birthplace of isis. This is actually whats happened, that other u. N. Owe fishes have said the international paralysis over the last three years in confronting whats going on in syria has actually enabled this terrible group, and now the u. S. Is saying that we need to confront isis on both sides of what is in a sense a nonexistent border anymore. Thats what general Martin Dempsey has said to the press the last few days. The question is how much of a strategic shift will president obama make in taking on this group, and the other question is, if the United States and coalition of allies does not take on this group, that de facto means that the west is prepared to live with an islamic caliphated terrorist state at heart of the middle east, raising armies, threatening minorities, and conducting the kind of brutality that weve seen especially with the murder of james foley. Youre coming to us from britain. What are countries in europe and Great Britain doing to combat radicalization at home, particularly the person who they believe assassinated or was involved in the beheading of james foley . That is a massive question and a massive problem and challenge to are many, many people in europe. Their muslim populations, people who feel either they need to go off on an adventure or feel alienated have been going in the hundreds to fight in the Syrian Civil War. Isis has been very, very sophisticated with its recruitment, with its social media musage and many, many britains and other europeans have gone over and, i might add, Many Americans as well. So what theyre trying to do now is to try to figure out how to deradicalize them, if and when they come back, some have suggested that they should be stripped of their citizenship. Some have suggested that they be very very draconian measures put in place. The question is really how theyre going to do it and what theyre going to do, but theres no doubt that there have been long, long warnings about blowback from leaving the Syrian Civil War to rage unchecked, and now these warnings are coming true, not just in the rise of isis, but in the very, very severe worry that theyre going to come back and attack homelands in europe and in the United States. And do we know whats happening with the investigation into the man who was heard on that tape with a british accent, who had been involved with the assassination of james foley . Well, this again is, you know, they seem to make a bit of progress one day and then dispute it the next day. The British Ambassador to the United States told cnn over the weekend that they are close to making an identification. The problem, though, is now theyre trying to figure out whether the voice, that english accented voice that was clearly heard on the execution video is actually from the same person who committed the execution, and that seems to be taking up a huge amount of time, as they forensically try to examine the video, voice analysis, and all the kind of analysis they can make of the shape of the executioner, the shape of the face, the style of the weapons that he used. One man apparently had a knife, a different kind of knife was then seen at the site of the execution. Its very complex and they havent yet been prepared to tell us that theyve actually nailed down who was the murderer. It has been incredible, christiane, because all they have seen are the mans eyes, and even from that, they have been able to do some sort of facial imaging to try to imagine what his full face might look like and then match it with i guess known suspects that they have, but they do have their work cut out for them. Christiane amanpour, thanks so much for all of the information. Great to see you. Thanks, alisyn. Watch amanpour on Cnn International weekdays at 2 00 and 5 00 eastern. Next up a touching moment at the emmy awards, Billy Crystal paying tribute to his late friend, Robin Williams. Well bring you his memorable words. Its very hard to talk about him in the past because he was so present in all of our yeah, i can fix that. dad i wanted a car that could handle anything. I fixed it dad thats why i got a Subaru Legacy. vo symmetrical allwheel drive plus 36 mpg. 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Previous wins for seinfeld the new adventures of old christine i feel that was the best moment. We were debating was it surprise or planned. Im going to go with planned now. Julia louisdreyfus in a passion aate kiss with Bryan Cranston. The two once appeared in a seinfeld episode together. Breaking bad they went out with a bang, taking home best drama series and best lead actor for Bryan Cranston and best supporting actor and actress. Joining us a couple of winners in their own rite, entertainment correspond edge Nischelle Turner and host of reliable sources brian stelter. The competition, who got more sleep last night i go with brian. Four hours . Oh yeah you did. You win. Lets go through the hits, runs and errors for those just waking up. We have to lead with the kiss because that was a really fantastic moment right there, nischelle. We believe that it was planned because you heard about some chatter on the red carpet leading up to this. Well, she had a bit planned last year when she won, and yes there was chatter on the red carpet from some of her costars on veep they believed she had Something Big planned for this year. Everyone had been asking if you win how are you going to top that moment with tony hale last year, and i believe this is the moment, because we did see a little bit leading up to this with her and Bryan Cranston talking about hey you look like the guy i used to date. He said i am that guy, we kissed, remember, she said i dont know if i do. Its sort of a shame, we all want real unscripted moments during these shows and theyre all so planned. Shes so funny, who cares. That was a threepeat for her. Thats big. It was a big deal for veep as well. Keep Getting Better on hbo. Another family favorite, got that, modern family a nice big nod for network usually kind of shut out in past years. It was, five years in a row modern family won. I remember writing about them in 2010, i was so excited, the kids were still young, it was a brand new show. It feels a little long in the tooth but this is the tugofwar between network and cable, sometimes people think networks are dying and cable is where its at. The future of television is all of the above, its network, cable, netflix, everybody. It was nice so see networks win a bunch of awards. Nischelle, interesting enough a lot of our favorites on netflix were not shut out but they werent big winners last night. No, they werent big winners last night. I still say and i still maintain that network is a big winner to get 31 nominations in its second round of go round, more than doubled their amount of nominations last year. We dont know how many people watch and subscribe to netflix. Orange is the new black right. Exactly. But i think cable has pushed the boundaries so we did see cable leading the way. I talked to so many people on the red carpet last night, so many celebrities said this is the gold. Age of television, the golden era of television, theres so much good stuff out there to be consumed and being made. Chuck lorre said he passed on so many Great Projects and hasnt had to do that in years, so theyre seeing this real resurgence of television and i have to agree, guys, i think theres some fantastic tv being made. Even though it wasnt a great night for netflix it is interesting to point out sherlock, one of the biggest winners on pbs, the only place to catch up on sherlock is netflix. It shows the connections between these competing services. What did you think of seth meyers hosting . Im a fan of seth, i thought it was excellent but i see why he leaned on a lot of his friends, amy poehler and jimmy fallon. Nischelle, that was not an accident, right . No, absolutely not. I think the smartest thing that seth meyers did was surround himself with very funny complimentary pieces last night. It drove the show, i thought it was a good show and it made him look much better than he probably would have been if he tried to drive himself. It is mart. You were talking about julia louisdreyfus, shes sort of entering this epic territory right now. Shes like the lucille ball almost now of modern tv. Yes. Shes actually, i think shes Getting Better with age, shes getting more beautiful with age. Shes got that thing about her that some actresses have. The fact that you were complaining she had something planned, if she did, it goes to show shes a pretty good idea shes going to win it if you plan Something Like that, you kind of think its going to happen. Im going to let the age comment on my birthday pass me by, brian. I think you know what i mean. One of the things i wanted to talk to you about and i know its something that weve sort of chatted about a little bit, about this apparent kind of disconnect between emmy voters and those of us that sit on your loungers and sofas watching this stuff every afternoon or evening depending on when we time shift or watch it live. Its like 19,000 people in the industry that vote for these categories. They are probably older than the viewers of a lot of these shows and theyre probably voting in some cases for their friends. I dont want to say modern family was the easy choice this year but it was in its fifth year on network tv. Brian, let me disagree with you for a little bit. Modern family had great material this season. You had the whole cam and mitchell wedding, embarking on territory we hadnt seen before. I think they had one of their stronger seasons to submit. Did say to my wife i want to catch up on the most recent season on huu, thats the beauty, we can watch all of the episodes. And thus the beautiful relationship and where networks and online can kind of symbiotically exist. The future is nothing goes away, its all added to. Netflix will be nominated for more awards next year and more competitive. Can we finish off and its fitting the moving and touching tribute to Robin Williams. Can we look at that real quick . Some of the brightest of our celestial bodies are actually extinct now. Their energy long since cooled, but miraculously, because they float in the heavens, so far away from us now, their beautiful light will continue to shine on us forever, and the glow will be so bright, it will warm your heart, it will make your eyes glisten and youll think to yourselves, Robin Williams, what a concept. I think we kind of have to leave it there pause he said it best, dont you agree . I loved that line what a concept. What a concept. Brian and nischelle, thank you so both of you. Go get some sleep. Brian for reliable sources sundays at 11 00 a. M. 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Since 2011, Lillian Webber has been sewing a dress a day, one a day, everybody, for a Charity Group that distributes them to orphanages and schools throughout africa. She decided she was going to set herself a goal of sewing dress number 1,000 by may 6th of 2015, which happens to be her 100th birthday. Wow youre kidding me. Such a lofty goal, doesnt mean lillians cutting any corners, though. She personalizes them all. Its not good enough that she just makes the dress, she has to put something on the front to make it look special to give it like her mark. A little bling. So she starts a dress every morning, gives herself a bit of a break in the middle of the day and adds all the finishing touches and embellishments in the afternoon. As for what happens after lillian makes that 1,000th dress here she in her own words. When i get to the 1,000, if im able to, i wont quit. Ill go at it again, because theres no reason to not, do nothing. Its wonderful, online you can see pictures of the little girls in the villages wearing the dresses that she made and they wear them with such pride and such a beautiful link, you know . Thats great. 99. You know another beautiful link, its eight her 100th birthday and its your big birthday. Happy 100th, michaela. Thank you very much. Its a wonderful day, thanks, guys. Were celebrating just about every minute of this day. Not 100 yet. Not 100 yet. Happy birthday. S that, honey. Thats all for us today. Time for newsroom with carol costello. I would sing but that would spoil your birthday. Oh, come on, carol. No, no, have a great day, happy birthday. See you tomorrow. Newsroom starts now. Good afternoon, everybody. Happening now in the newsroom, a new plan and a new eye on isis, the white house looking to the syrian skies as it considers taking military action against the terrorist group. Searching for a killer, shocking new clues this morning, word of a second terrorist in the james foley beheading video. Well break down the tape straight ahead. And the whopper goes north, burger king announcing its merging with tim hortons. This morning, new calls for a boycott and claims of tax dodging. Lets talk, live in the cnn newsroom. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com good evening. And good morning. Im carol costello. The white house takes major steps to new military action against the terrorists. U. S. Officials tell cnn at any time reconnaissance flights could launch over syria, that could set up air strikes against the group that has vowed to kill americans at home and abroad. Isis has ady