Ill see you tomorrow. All year yeah, youre ready. We welcome. Welcome. Welcome you to king charles and gayle king. You are who Charles Barkley Charles Barkley, and guess what guys, were starting things off a little differently tonight because our first guess, you could say, has a very big weekend coming up here with us tonight, fresh off of a rally in her home state, is former governor of South Carolina and republican president ial candidate nikki haley. Governor we thank you for being with us. I know youve come straight from the rally. Were so glad that youre first stop is with us. Welcome. Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it so much. Im going to start gill. All right. Please governor im dying to vote for you i mean that sincerely i want to give all my energy and all my heart behind your campaign. But i was upset. When you made the reference that you didnt think america had racism and my question is, i was disappointed. Number one, obviously. But i want to give you a chance that you say that because you felt like you needed to say that to the audience. Because i because i can say im done the bulk for you. And that that hurt me. So i will love you to clarify that, please. So first of all, i never said that there was not racism in america. There absolutely is racism in america. I said that america was not a racist country. And the whole point of that is, and charles, youll appreciate this when i grew up, the only indian family in a small rural southern town, we werent white enough to be white. We werent black enough to be black. They didnt know who we were, what we were while we were there. If my mom had told me that we lived in a racist country i would have grown up never thinking i could be governor never thinking i could be ambassador, never thinking i could run for president. But my mom always said, your job is not to show them how youre different. Your job is to show them how youre similar. And its amazing how that lesson on the playground played throughout my life, whether it was the corporate world is lets governor is ambassador, that once i was ever presented with a challenge, if i first talked about the things we had in common, people would let their guard down. And then we could go towards a solution. But governor races are and you say, our jobs should be governor. I think most people heard your job should be not. We lead off it says when a racist country thats the problem that we heard essay, thats what i centered. Okay so i never said i said that america is not a racist country. The premise of america was never to be a racist country. And that our number one goal should it might be to make today better than yesterday, we need to stomp out racism wherever it exists. But if you go and tell kids that they live in a racist country, then youre automatically telling brown and black kids that theyll never be good enough. I dont want our kids to think that i want them to know that yes, there is racism. Yes, it is wrong wherever we see it, but that doesnt mean that the country is against you. That means that we need you even more than ever. So we can stomp it out wherever we see it okay. I really dont want to split hairs, but the exact quote that you said was america has never been a racist country. I think thats the problem that people objected to were not, were not disputing that what youre saying about americas not a racist country. Some people would argue with that but were saying the comment you made that particular day, was it america has never been a racist country. And i think thats what got thats what caught people off surprise, caught people off guard and saying, i dont think that and i dont think the premise of america was to be a racist country. I think that they said that every man was created equal with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And getting it to the place it needed to be, was america was a work in progress, but i dont think that the basis of america was that we were racist country. I think the goal was always to have freedom. Now, we stumbled along the way and weve got some parts of our history that were not pretty, but we got past that. I dont think that our founders wanted us to have a racist country. I dont believe that thats the basis that america sits on. Thats what i was saying is i dont think the premise of america was ever to be a racist country. I think its always to be the best country with the most freedom that allows anybody to be whatever they want to be without government getting in their way or anybody else getting in their way okay . Youre making news again today. You make news everyday, Governor Haley, but today youre making news because you agreed with the Alabama Supreme Court that ruled that embryos are people. And today you said yes, you believe their people to i think theyre troubled. Many people so she women who are going through ivf treatments, were hearing reports already about Fertility Clinics that are shutting down because theyre worried. What do you say to women that are now concerned about that . And your position in that particular issue . Well first of all, i didnt i mean, this is again, i didnt say that i agreed with the alabama ruling. What the question that i was asked is, do i believe an embryo is a baby . I do think that if you look in the definition, an embryo is considered an unborn baby and so yes, i believe from my stance at that is the difference is and this is what i say about abortion as well we need to treat these issues with the utmost respect. I had trouble having both of my children. I am very aware of what it means to go through artificial insemination. All of those things related to in vitro. I know what that is, and i also know the importance between a dr. And the parents is very important to have those conversations. This case was based on and should be based on the rights of those parents for their embryos and to make sure that they have the responsibility with the doctors on how those are handled. Nothing more than that. And i will well continue to say these issues keep coming up and everybody wants to divide people on these issues this is not the time where you divide people. You bring people together, our goal is to always do what the parents want with their embryo. It is theres so any physician that is in control all of those embryos, they owe it to those people to make sure they protect that embryo and that they do with that embryo, with those parents want done with that embryo. That is the way we should look at that situation. You know, youve had a magnificent life so far. Incredible life. What you accomplished, you talk about your family being immigrants but we have to admit the border is i would say its chaos, but that wouldnt do it. Justice. What . What is your i dont think anybody has the perfect solution whats the best way to address this Immigration Issue there is a solution and thats thats the issue when i was governor of South Carolina, we passed the toughest illegal Immigration Law in the country. We need to take what we didnt South Carolina and go national with it. We need a national E Verify Program that requires businesses to prove that the people they hire are in this country legally, we need to Defund Sanctuary Cities once and for all we cant have safe havens. Thats the incentive that makes them want to come here we need to go and put 25,000 Border Patrol and ice agents on the ground and let them do their job. We need to go back to the remain in mexico policy. And instead of catch and release, we need to go to catch and deport. But charles, look at what happened last week. Here you had congress had a bill on the border. Now, the part of the bill that was good, was it it strengthened asylum laws. We need those strengthened because under the trump administration, 3 million Illegal Immigrants came because we didnt have Strong Enough asylum laws. The part of the bill that was week was it didnt have the remain in mexico policy. We dont want anyone and stepping foot on us soil, we have to have that policy and they had a 5,000 persons we dont even want a oneperson threshold. Weve got to make sure every person has vetted before they are allowed to come here. So congress should have gotten in a room and figured it out and not left until they got us a Strong Border bill. But instead they went home for vacation for two weeks, which is unacceptable. But the other side of that is donald trump went and told them not to pass anything until after the general election in november because it would hurt him we cant wait one more data secure the border. Congress needs to get in there and do their job. And donald trump needs its the stay out of it because americans need to be protected and we have got to secure that border. America is acting like its September 10th we better remember what September 12th felt like it only takes one person to have a non 11 moment. Donald trumps base is very clear. They cannot be moved people say they know who joe biden supporters are when you talk about your supporters and your base, who is that exactly in your in your opinion who want anybody and everybody . You dont my goal is to get people who want normal again, my goal is to get people who see we cant have 280 yearold candidates and continue down the path that were on. My goal is to make sure that we bring sanity back and the tone at the top matters. And so thats what im trying to do. If you want to talk about what the American People are saying, 70 he percent of americans are saying they dont want trump or biden though, weve heard 60 of americans are saying they think joe bidens too old and Donald Trumps too old theyre the two most disliked politicians in america. Why are we letting that be our choice . Thats why im running Governor Haley. Were going to take a really quick break and well be right back. Dont leave, dont leave why you ran Hates America Sunday at eight the greatest Stage Sick Joke about for a lifetime reason, to championed tvs you wayfair is the talk of a neighborhood we want error kleiner, but it had to be sheik. We wait fair to waive their for the wins. Look fancy we wayfair this and save the time. When does it again . Its beautiful on wayfair. We waste their tile faucet, tilework. Guess the wayfair word is out hey are you got just what i need. Doctors recommend coal, a Stool Softener for gentle dependable relief from constipation. 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So you can forget your underarms and focus on being on forgettable dove men, forgettable under arms, unforgettable. You i wish michael was here today and i wish our children and i could see him tonight. Well, we cant hes serving on the other side of the world Governor Haley is back with us governor. Many people were very struck by that moment, very touched by that moment when you became emotional. Talking about your husband, what were you thinking about in that moment and how are you getting through this without him by your side . You know, im no different than any other military spouse. When our loved ones deployed, its hard, but were so proud of them and, you know, its hes like my right arm. Weve done everything together. I met him when i was 17. Wed been together ever since. And so you know, obviously run running for president , not having him here as hard but, you know, im so grateful to him and all of his military brothers and sisters who are willing to serve and sacrifice for us because they know freedom isnt free. They know that this is about something bigger than themselves. And so yes, it was i mean, that wasnt that wasnt something ive wished would have happened, but you cant help, but sometimes and it was just a moment where it hit home. Why do you what do you wish it wouldnt have happened . I think its sometimes helps people to see insight into any politicians ive actually, im wondering how your husband and your kids, you have to adults children, how they handle all the incoming thats coming at their mom on a daily basis i think, you know, i think its hard. I think its hard for michael, 8,000 miles away when he reads or sees whats happening. I think the kids have been fantastic. They have been on the bus tour with me any chance they can come in and help, and support my daughter with it. Every debate, my son is now with me on the bus tour. Theyre trying to step up for where they know their dad would be, but im so proud of everybody and military families. Its not just the Service Member that sacrifices its the military families that sacrificed and we are blessed to live in america, in a country where we have people who are willing to sacrifice just for us to have these freedoms. Have you ever we had a couple of political guest on throughout the last few shows like, have you ever been in an election where theres one guy doesnt show up for the debates im in one now. He wont show up for debate. Weve asked him multiple times to debate and he wont, you know, its amazing to me because he goes and he hes doing these commercials now in South Carolina where he says, im for open borders and i want to raise taxes and now we sent Text Messages to everybody saying i want to cut social security. None of those is true. None of them is true and i always say if youve got a lot of when you dont deserve to win. But i cant ask him because he wont get on a debate stage. And so, you know, its one of those things where we just continue to pound away all right. And remind people who he is. This is a man that, you know. First of all, we had 14 people in the race. I defeated a dozen of the fellas. I just got one more. I got to catch up to and in iowa, they didnt give us much of a chance and we came in and were 1 away from second place, then a New Hampshire on election day, they said we were third 30 points down and we got 43 of the vote the problem is that night, donald trump was upset about it and all he did was talk about revenge and my dress by the way. And then the next day he goes and says, anybody that supports her is barred permanently from maga if youre running for president , your job is to bring as many people in, not push people out and then you see his court cases where he claims hes a victim. The problem i have is during none of that, did he ever talk about the American People . He never talked about the fact that we were 34 trillion in debt. He never talked about the fact that only 30 pretty 1 of eighth graders in our country are proficient in reading. He never talked about an open border. He never talked about lawlessness in our cities, you never talked about the but right now, lets talk about himself. That is true. Governor, but hes the one fella you still got to catch. And right now, theres a very big gap between the two of you. You worked with him them in his administration. What was the most challenging thing for you working with him back then we actually worked well together. And the reason we worked well together is when he was doing something good, i rallied i fought board, i wanted america to be strong, but when he was doing something wrong or that i didnt think was going to end. Well, i would pick up the phone and call him. Hed always call me right back where i would show up. And as often say, you cannot do this. Have used wires . Yeah. Always gave him options. Have you spoken to last from i spoke to him was when i the last time. I spoke to him was when i called him to tell him i was running for president. And i called him for two reasons. One, because it was the right thing to do because he had given me the job and to i wanted him to know i was in it to win it. I told him we couldnt continue down this path of chaos and we couldnt continue with this negativity. And i thought we needed a new generational leader thats the last time i talked to them. You know, you talk about chaos. Number one, you heard correct . Im going to add to the chaos what are you doing . Like 20 of these dummies are foods out here, believe that taylor swift is going to swing the election. What are you doing to bring the swifties on . Ford look, i mean, i got nothing when it comes to that. I dont even understand it. I dont know where its coming from. I read i think shes talented. I took my daughter to two of her concerts when they were growing up. Ive got Swifty Bracelet Someone right now that little girls are giving me so but look, i dont know what that thought processes. So i cant really understand it, you know, all i can tell you is, its why we need to get back to normal. Yeah, thats what all can take, governor, weve got to get back to normal governor. I saw it on television. Its gotta be true its got to reach governor. I remember the book that you wrote it was called if you want something done, youre talking about leadership. And for bold women and it was fascinating to me, you had the usual suspects that you named in the book that were not surprised, hillary clinton, margaret thatcher, but you also named joan jett i was so surprised. Joan jett was somebody that you singled out a rocker. We all know who she is what is it about joan jett that appeal to you . That was his surprise to me. You know, i have always been a massive fan of joan jett because i love the fact that when she came became a musician, she didnt look like the difficult rocker and she was actually shunned. Nobody would give her a chance because she didnt look the part or she didnt act the part and so she got declined declined. And finally, she and her agent ended up producing their own records and selling them out of the trunk of our car and that record happened to be the one that had i Love Rock And Roll and all these other number one hits that were on there. And so while they shunned her, she didnt wait on them to accept her. She kept Going Forward and then, you know, even after that when they saw that she got all the number one hits the the fierceness of her, the toughness of her, and the ability for her to go forward, even though she didnt look and act like them, is amazing to me. And so look, im a huge joan jett fan. She knows this. We have met and talked multiple times. We text as well. I think that what shes accomplished is amazing. And i think that every woman should look at that and say, dont let them put you in a box, you go and you make your own box. So as nikki haley, joan jett, and do you channel your inner joan jett . Is that what were seeing . When we see you out on the campaign trail absolute absolutely. Channel my joan jett, its its something that i think is important. Look, the, the political elites have never been for me when i ran against the longest serving legislator in a primary, they werent for me when i ran for governor against the Lieutenant Governor attorney general, congressmen and state senator. They were not for me when i went to be at the un, they said i didnt have enough experience now im running for president and all theyre finding everything wrong with me. But thats all the reason you have to push forward is you cant let the naysayers get to you. You have to keep looking at why youre doing it and stay focused on what your intentions are and be true to yourself. And i think if you do that, people see through that and i think that thats what gets you at the end of the day when i watch all these debates and i watched all these politician on television, they always talk about the middle class why dont anybody ever talk about poor people you know, we, we did and in South Carolina, ill tell you, we didnt just talk about it. We did something about it. We had thousands of people on welfare. And what i did and we knew this was generational welfare from one generation to the neck so what we did is we took those members on welfare. I partnered them with businesses and i told businesses, if you will take this person and train them, i will pay for them for x number of weeks and if at the end of it you decide if you want to hire them, we move 35,000 people from welfare to work and we had Family Parties because the children got to see their parents being productive members of society and the parents got to do what they always want it, its not that people dont want to work. They didnt know how to get the training sometimes you have to Connect The Dots so that you can break that cycle. We did the same thing with our prisons. I wanted to know how people got in, what happened to them when they were there and how they got out. And so we reform the entire prison system. We started teaching them Computer Skills and resume skills. We give them gave them Family Planning and faithbased help if they wanted but i put equipment behind the fence and we taught them a skill now when someone leaves the fence and South Carolina, theyve got a job to go to the next day. We had the lowest Recidivism Rate in the country the key is to lift up everybody when you can lift up, everybody thats magic thats true. Solutions that can carry people for, thats what we always did. Thats what i want to continue to do. A lot of people looking for Magic Saturday is a big, big day for you. The numbers right now are not in your favorite insisting youre staying in the race so in the race stay in the race. I want to tell you. I know youre busy had a rally tonight. I feel a lot better after talking to you personally, i just want to say you keep going, please. I will remind everybody in all of these primaries coming up. If youre a general election voter, youre given a choice. You vote in a primary, you make your choice. We need everybody to go out and make their choice. Were going to do this after South Carolina. Im headed to michigan from there, were going to all the sun for tuesday states. Im not moving, im going to continue to fight for this country as long as americans want me to fight. And so were going to continue to do it and were going to make everybody proud in the process. So i hope your listeners and viewers will go to nikkihaley. Com and join us good. Goodbye, joan jett. Thank you for joining us. Said, oh, i met Governor Haley saturday. Well all be watching. Thank brock and thank you for your time. You really appreciate your time. Really appreciate it. King charles will be right back with more and Astead Herndon will be here for New York Times to join us to talk about what he just heard from Governor Haley. Well be right back. So we got nikki haley on the show tonight. Okay. What did barking should be up, nikki haley just when baby keep going, mickey, dont give up already kicked trump. 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We welcome you back to king charles were thinking theres no one better to discuss what she said with our next guest. Our next guest . It is Astead Herndon National Political reporter for the New York Times, and hes been covering this race from all angles. He also, by the way happens to be a cnn contributor. Well, welcome back. Welcome back. I appreciate it when you got your back good last time no frets. What do you make of what she said about who her basis . I thought that was a really we interesting question. I think it speaks to the core and nikki haley problem in this campaign. This is a governor who has a wide net. Her response to that question is, im trying to get everyone who doesnt like trump the 70 of people who want, who wants Something Different than the President Biden or donald trump. The problem is, thats a general election argument thats not a primary argument though. Problem. Shes running into, is that the majority of the Republican Base wants donald trump and even more than that, the kind of persuadable people who thought, maybe if hes someone else emerged, i will vote for him. She hasnt been able to win over those people either. So the point that the polling tells us that coming into this weekends primary in South Carolina, donald trump has favored by near 30 points that is a number thats staggering for someone particularly just to be the former governor of his state. But i think its safe those people would know her better than anyone they would. But i really think it speaks to the changes, the broader changes in the republican party, you know, when i hear nikki haley respond to some of you alls questions, it sounds like a 2016, 2017 republican in the 2024 time, you know, shes trying to calibrate that message on important issues like abortion and like immigration. But the Republican Base so far has wanted someone who gave them, though most familiar court conservative, red meat. And of course we know thats donald trump a whole lot for my own benefit republicans and maga voters. You think theyre the same or different. They overlap, but theyre not exactly the same. I would say a square rectangle type of situation. We know that donald trump probably has 40 of the Republican Base, hardcore and has had him, has had those kind of group of people for years not be moved and has not been moved, has not really shown interest in any other candidate from the start of this prime, you think as 40 it used to be 30 . There was kind of open questions depending on what poll youre looking at, 30 to 40 . But i think is different now, is that there was a group of people who were open to other alternatives and some of those people have come around to donald trump now in our reporting, some of that is because of the indictments some republicans say, oh, because hes under threat. Ive rallied around him and some of this is just because of pure viability. Republicans tell us, well, no one else has emerged. So i guess im going back with donald trump. And so that 40 number that was his Hardcore Base at the beginning of last year. Weve somewhat seen that creep up to become a little bigger now to the point where in South Carolina were looking at more for 65 , right . And so these growing the share of Republican Voters who are rallying around him, even though we know that from the beginning of this primary, there was a bunch of republicans who are opened other option. What do you think because youve been covering this campaign, youd certainly spent time with nikki haley and youve been in South Carolina. What do you think is her strategies . Because she says im staying in No Matter What. Yeah. Despite what the number for say so far weve only had three states that really waited. She says shes staying in it doesnt matter what the numbers say and what the polls and importantly, smart strategy and partly Governor Haley reinforced that this week gave a speech in South Carolina making No Matter What happens this weekend, theres someone who sees themselves staying until Super Tuesday is not expected to go well for her and her own home state. Its not i think its important a couple of things to remember. One is that Governor Haley has financial backing still theres still a group of republicans and conservative donors who want to see someone else than trump and have rallied around or to the point that she doesnt have to get out because of lack of money. Remember, the reason most people drop out is because they dont want to be present anymore is because they run out of money . Yes. Yes. But shes still getting much. He still getting that money. The other thing i would say though, is the prospect of Donald Trumps legal problems has created a different Conversation Amount when they get out of the race. And so if you want to be the other option or you want to be, you want to present republicans or media, or just voters with a different selection. As donald trump is scheduled to go into criminal court, theres a lot of people we talked to in the party that says thats the reason they want someone like nikki haley to stay in the race is because of the presents, a legitimate alternative, as were going to see trumps legal problems arise. She talked a lot about chaos and i told you as i said earlier, chaos is an understatement. Im people just tired of like, first of all, our admire mr. Biden, hes been a great man for a long time. I think he too old personally, thats just me. A much bigger but gayle trump is hundred percent chaos she just like hal toddler to be as we got some serious issue and its kind of we need some grownup. Yeah. You got trump whos like none. Dont let them reach, reach a resolution on immigration. I wanted to be a big deal during the election. I mean, im people just taught at a bs and we just like you mac and you fix hawaii . Yeah. Can you help me with my bills . Can you fix the Immigration Issue . Dont dont we need somebody like hers like, you know what . Im tired of the noise. Yeah. I think thats the most interesting part to me about her candidacy is the actual message of normalcy, of wanting a new generation, of blending a government that looks different than biden trump is really popular, is actually a thing that we hear all the time or when theyre old people, one politicians focus on getting things done. They want people to do something and bipartisan fashion. I think people want normalcy to, and people want normalcy. That was a big message from the midterm election. One of my question wasnt i didnt get to it was why do you spend so much time talking about this dude . Like tonight was my first chance. Like you talk about some issues instead of just spend all your time talking about him. I mean, thats an interesting thing because a lot of people say the opposite. Remember you know, governor really spent a lot of time talking about issues and trying to use that as a way to create a distinction between her and trump and it can really see traction. She actually gained more traction and republicans as she started talking more about donald trump. But the issue is to back to that square rectangle we are talking about before. There is no lane for an antitrump republican. No question because i mean, there just isnt, there arent enough of those voters. You cant talk his guys off this pier its fans off the list and its important to remember thats not just his base voters, but the Party Apparatus is now lining up behind him. Hes installing loyalists and State Parties at the top of the rnc, so much so that they are trying to pressure nikki haley ticket out of the race. Well, we still have a long way to go. We do were sitting here in february. The election isnt until november what can happen lucky, state you for having always good to have you here. Always. When we come back, celebrated writer and New York Times advice columnist sets roxane gay on thorny colleagues at the office, you know, anybody like that . I know somebody well i dont. King charles midterms right after the break im dr. Sanjay gupta and this is cnn. That night on the ice, He Saw Something someone in his towns, heidi, so could you have to diegan . 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Sunday, a nine on cnn. Have you ever had a coworker do something that you thought was bizarre or yeah. Sheriff, please no. Thank you tiktok in the office. She was into horses. She would compare childcare to her horse care to his coworkers actually physically got into a brawl. Everyones perfect thats a very smart answer. Very smart. Before the show, charles and i always go out on the street and sort of a cause people say, come talk to us and guess what they do. Everybodys got a crazy story about there strange colleague, or theyre very difficult. Boss. Our next guest is a perfect person we think to tackle those tricky Work Situations, you know, a tricky works if you ever had a tricky Work Situation were not going to last much longer so what we have to say she is now rider culture comments data, and professor roxane gay is here. Were so glad youre here, professor gaye. Thank you so much for having me. Its start know. So delta dental last week and i said we were at all star game. Always take people out who i like. I want to work work. They worked so hard to get a break. And she shows up. She says, oh, youve got ten france with you she wasnt paying the bill. Is that all right no, no no rocks. And before you answer that, say you land in indiana for instance, for the allstar game, you text your friend and say, hey, want to get together for dinner, said friends says, yes, 06 00 and named the place okay the place that they chose, i didnt think was great because the chain it was a Chain Restaurant available snub gills high something Neighbor Chain . No, please dont. Because its a good shape, but im thinking if youre in a different city, tries something that you cant get anywhere else, okay. Fine. So. Im make the reservations and i comma say, great, i got us in at 06 30, said for how many i said two. It goes to while i have ten people, ten people no one. He didnt tell me that he had ten people. Dont you think that when i reached out to him the proper thing to do what have been to say, hey, gail, listen im going out to dinner with friends. Would you like to join us as opposed to yell, lets go to dinner and im thinking its the two of us together. What do you think i think when you go into a Dinner Invitation thinking its going to be an intimate conversation for two. I didnt say him even wait. I didnt say intimate. Not i just wanted to get together for dinner. Yeah. I would be surprised if he was well, wait, what did you said . What id be surprised if he said i have ten friends, but i just run your variable in a different city i wouldnt be surprised that someone said, hey, would you mind if i bring these other ten Friends Future Reference Rock . Yes, Charles Israels Got Good Taste oh, really, i really missed that chain we have some good restaurants. They do they do is she picked the best one and im not knocking his friends. Its not that but if you just think that its just going to be the two of you of he just said, look, i got my already have dinner plans with my friends. Would you like to join us . I wouldve said yes, i wouldve said yeah. Its just that if you think that its just going to be the two of you and he says, oh ten people am i wrong . Am i wrong or not wrong . Okay. Youre not wrong. This is a difficult one where youre not wrong. Are you done . Yes, i am. You want to take to proceed you what if you this is a word question. Yeah. Yes. If you have a disagreement with a coworker and they start giving you the solid treatment. How do you handle that . Personally . I i respond in kind. If you give me the Silent Treatment, im going to pretend you dont exist really, really, because life is short and roxanne, i know you dont thats it. I have nothing to say to you. Now, of course welcome to my world disagrees with you now because you disagree with her. When will you was guessing that up i love my rocks go so if somebody gives has already tried to mediate, has gone to a manager has suggested, hey, can we have a conversation about this all right, people who go to the Silent Treatment level have decided that theres no resolution to be had here, and you are dead to me. And i will just meet like with like and lever use my voice again i hear too that you get your column is very famous. We should say, i hear that you get a lot of questions from people talking about smelly coworkers . Yes. This is a thing. This is the thing. I mean, im sure you guys have dealt with that. I have had a medical worker oh, thats right. Especially on the court the court to is it because their athletes are the locker room or no, Something Different depending on what country youre from. Some guys did not take. Showers or use deodorant. About this is some countries apologize. Im wrong. Its a cultural thing. Okay. But what about in an office because most of us arent in an office, you have to say something. Its so uncomfortable. Say something to the coworker. Well, as gently as possible, but i mean, do you want to spend the rest of i know way to say that. I mean, its just like excuse me, but are you dealing with something do you have a hormonal issue . Is the water not working at your home when its going . No. What about okay. I guess ive got a serious question. Yes. What if you see this is like my pet peeve, like ive worked my teeth a lot. Im always pumping in medicine, everything how do you have you got a friend with bad breath that thats like my pet peeve because people walk on me all the time. The last thing im ultimate settlement that Charles Bordeaux got bad breath always. Brand im always. Carrying minutes. How do you handle that . Again, you have to be really delicate. Its such a challenging thing to tell someone like something about your very physical being is off. But do you really want someone with halitosis . Ill up in your face all day and the answer is no. And so i in Something Like that, i would just be like, hey, by the way, i have these extra altoid would you like them actually, you can never turn down minutes because anytime people offer you a myth thats what you should take it. Yes, i hit it is always a hit, isnt always a hit or i turned down mins all the time because im thinking i dont want to be chomping on something. So is that ahead . Yeah. I pick it is i really do. I think it is roxanne. Were so glad youre here. Im so glad to be here. Thank you so much. Thank you. So i might have to rethink that. I might add. We have to think that yeah, when you see that meant coming your way, you just have to be like, oh hi, spray away king charles, right back. Ill be back. I dont know where charles is going. Hes got plans vegas store. Youve sensitive sunday cnn. This is the big dam came. Through that do my cr y thanks. 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