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Workers see it very differently. Job security would be nice if they keep this place open. We dont really have a car. Its scheduled to close. I just need a future. I dont mind working hard to get it, either, but give us something. A lot of news to get to that hour including that important strike, but we begin with uncertainty after this weekends attack on Oil Facilities inside saudi arabia. We, of course, are watching oil prices. Crude oil prices spiking after they effectively were slashed in price. Heating oil, natural gas all up as well. Top Administration Officials are meeting today at the white house amid ongoing discussions about the attack and irans possible role in it. Theyre also discussing options for u. S. Response. President trump this morning suggesting iran might be responsible for the attacks, tweeting in part, quote, now they, meaning iran, say they had nothing to do with the attack on saudi arabia. Well see. This comes after his secretary of state was very quick to pin responsibility directly on iran. Iran denying any role here. President trump also tweeting over the weekend what many interpreted to be a threat of military action saying, we, quote, are locked and loaded depending on verification but are waiting to hear from the kingdom as to who they believe was responsible for this attack and what terms we would proceed. It is being said that locked and loaded is definitely a threat of military action. What are the saudis saying . Reporter the saudis are saying it was not fired from yemen, which is what the Houthi Rebels claimed. They say they were Iranian Missile systems that hit the Petroleum Facilities here, so theyre clearly laying the blame for the weapons, at least, at iran. Theyre not saying yet specifically where they were fired from, only that its not yemen. They say they will get to the bottom of it. My understanding is there is more information to come on this at this time, but if you take what the saudis are saying in concert what secretary of state mike pompeo is saying, that the Weapons Systems werent fired from iraq to the north of saudi arabia, and they didnt come from the south as the saudis say from yemen, that really leaves one place, iran. Just to add a little context here, when the saudis in the past have said the houthis have fired weapon systems at them before and they sent the weapon systems to the u. N. For confirmation that they were made in iran, the u. N. Has come back and confirmed some of that information. The saudis have a track record of calling it right on iranianmade weapon systems. We dont know yet if thats the case here. They havent provided the evidence thus far, but thats the direction they seem to be traveling in at the moment, john. Nic robertson in saudi arabia. Great to have you at the capital in this sensitive time. Callie at wood, Michael Bender and greg ipp. The president says, i want to hear from the kingdom. What do they believe . The saudis are coming up with the same thing mike pompeo said, iran did this. If iran did this, what will the response be . Thats what theyre talking about at the white house today. It is interesting to see there are a number of principals meetings happening at the white house. Its different to see when there have been incidents like this. The question here is what are the options on the table and what is President Trump willing to do when iran shot down a million 11 million u. S. Drone, trump was thinking about military action but he called it off before they actually took action. What will it take for trump to take action . I dont think the allies in the middle east are really expecting him to do anything, but its up to the u. S. To decide what they are going to do before they make any decisions regionally about what they are going to do. You see the president s tweet originally, locked and load loed and the white house says that doesnt necessarily mean military action. Theyre trying to buy space. Space for what . This is really first and foremost their issue. There is some timing issues for the white house. It doesnt feel like there is a lot of urgency in the moment here to respond in the next 24 hours to iran. The president s schedule, in fact, would sort of suggest otherwise. Hell be out of washington for a couple days doing some campaign stops. Its unlikely that the u. S. Would lead strikes while the president is campaigning on the west coast. So it does feel like there is some time here to let the saudis get figure out what theyre going to say. Theyre sharing intelligence, our colleagues at the journal are sharing that american officials have shown them evidence, intel, to show these attacks have come from iran. And also you have the dynamic here with congress and particularly a Republican Senate that is sort of reticent to get involved in what they view as a saudiiran issue. They have the evidence gathering, if you will, the intelligence gathering. The questions of possibly war and peace. You have attacks that have cut off about half of saudis production then you have the tensions. What does that do in terms of the Global Economy which was already in an iffy place . Its not good. Right now its containable. We have the prices of oil up around 6. For the u. S. Thats 3 of gdp. Its not a big deal. Its not zero. They will benefit a little bit from higher prices. Also the world knows that we have roughly a billion barrels of spare oil in various reserves that can cover six months of outages. For all those reasons, there is no reason to push the panic button. One thing you should worry about, is there a wider conflict between saudi and iran that results in a higher cutoff of supply . Do you have prices spiking 40 . That would definitely be a big problem. We have other urgencies going on, the tariffs in china, brexit and so on. How much more can the Global Economy take . Not a lot more. Do we know, and i dont want to simplify this, but if youre the average american and youre thinking this through, and you are a stressed american, you might think, what is this going to do to me . Gas prices during the presidency, they spike up and down within every presidency, sometimes the president doesnt have anything to do with it, but sometimes the president gets blamed for it. This president is lucky considering gas prices during his presidency have been historically low and you havent had a huge price spike because of events. Hes also a president about to be up for reelection. If this goes on for a bit, whats the impact at the pump . First of all, he knows us quite well, which is why the first policy response hes talking about releasing oil from the petroleum reserve. Thats a very targeted response, which is probably one reason we havent seen a lot so far. Like you say, prices have moved up and down a lot during his presidency. We had a spike in oil just this last may. So there is no reason to look at gas prices and say, this is a disaster. But its kind of the headline risk. Just like most people in businesses have not been directly hurt by the tariffs, its all they read about, and now theyll be reading about gas problems and Oil Production short shortages. It just adds to the mixture thats very negative for confidences, especially businesses. Trump made a response about releasing reserves. He also called on agencies to expedite pipeline production, some of the projects in the works in texas and other places, which is kind of interesting in that the release from the reserves should hold the markets over for a while, but meanwhile, this was a single biggest disruption since the first gulf war to oil markets. And even though the u. S. Has become the largest producer of crude, that kind of disruption shows what sort of pivotal roles saudis still play in global oil markets. Theres a supply element and a psychology of the markets. Does it matter that the president is having these meetings today without a National Security adviser . Does it matter you have a turnover. Say this morning, mr. Trump, i might also apologize to john bolton who warned repeatedly that iran would take advantage of perceived weakness in the white house. The campaign has been borki iwo and abandoning it now would take more military risks. You have secretary pompeo, you have a relatively new secretary in secretary esper. Does the absence of bolton make a difference here . Of course it does. Without a National Security adviser who has been with the president as bolton had for over a year, the Decision Making is not as it traditionally is inside a white house, right . We should also note the president is considering right now who he is going to have step into those shoes. So hes distracted to a degree from focusing on one thing. But i think its important to note that, you know, the tweet that we saw from secretary pompeo over the weekend expli t explicitly and quite immediately called out iran for these attacks. That was before anyone else from the Intelligence Community was able to do so. We still havent seen any intelligence that explicitly says iran was to blame, so even though john bolton is gone and he was an iran hawk, there is still an iran hawk on the president s National Security team, and he is arguably one of the most vocal members of that team, and a member of the team we know the president listens to quite often, and thats important to consider. If they stick with that, what will they do about it . What are the options . They seem to be buying some time to think this one through, consult around the world and everything, but an important question is, what do you do about it . If you directly blame iran, what do you do about it . Some confusion when the president speaks and then aides come out to say, what he really meant to say is something different. Is she alright . I hope so. So i talked to my doctor about humira. I learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of Crohns Disease after trying other medications. And the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief and many achieved remission in as little as 4 weeks. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. Before treatment, get tested for tb. 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President trumps locked and loaded language making iran think he is ready for war. The aides said dont think locked and loaded means were declaring war. Donald trump said, they are wrongly reporting that i would meet with iran with no conditions. I would certainly be willing to meet with iran. No proconditions . No. If they want to meet, ill meet. That was the president of the United States, no preconditions. Two cabinet members repeated the no preconditions line just last week. I would say secretary pompeo and myself and the president are completely aligned on our maximum pressure campaign. I think you know weve done more sanctions on iran than anybody, and its absolutely working. Now, the president has made clear hes happy to take a meeting with no preconditions, but we are maintaining the maximum pressure campaign. I think you might have heard the words no preconditions there. Jackie co sin nis with the daily beast, manu raj u and the washington post. We talked about the chief consequences, the economic consequences. As this plays out, does it matter if youre an american resident, an american journalist or someone in iran trying to figure out what hes trying to say and he says he didnt Say Something when he clearly said it. Then his aides come out and say, dont Pay Attention to the president or dont take him literally. Weve seen this not only with iran but a lot of different situations on the international scale, and domestically, for that matter. Whether the president is doing it to sow confusion, whether hes doing it for a reason were not thinking of, its a reason why globally there is a lot of confusion in dealing with this white house, because they dont know if an ambassador, if the secretary of state is actually speaking for the president , and the president changes his mind so frequently, it does have this is a consequence of that. What does the president actually want here and how does this align with what his own personal views are . Often you hear the president talk about retreating from the world, pulling back from military conflicts, trying to pull out from places like afghanistan and the like, not wanting to be the global policeman, as he has said on multiple occasions. The president has a conflict in his own message and what does he ultimately want to get out of here. Some claim he doesnt even know what the next steps are, which is why theyre probably showing some confusion. Its more important if youre an ally than an adversary like iran. Whats clear is the president wants the meeting with rouhani, he still wants the meeting. Now that eiran has drawn a bold line saying this is not going to happen, trump is trying to say, remember that lils st of a doze conditions that pompeo put out, thats part of it. Locked and loaded, President Trump is much more bold on twitter mobile phone than he is with the adversaries. He showed his rhett tense etice first two years with his ability to do that. There are no good choices for the president here. Theres no good choice for any president here, whether its obama or trump or any other administration. But this happens to be as we head into an election campaign. So on the one hand, the president trying to be muscular, locked and loaded. Iran, youll pay some consequence, whatever that consequence may be. Hes a president heading into a reelection cycle that has an economy thats already showing some signs of at least slowing and possibly tipping into recession. So the president tweeted today, fear not. The Energy Sector can fill in the blanks here. Its a hard one, anyway, but the timing makes it harder. He wants to look tough. He always likes to sort of show that hes out to you hit me, ill hit harder. Then he wants to ease peoples concerns about any sort of economic recession, people feeling this in their pocketbook as he goes to a reelection. At the same time its sort of interesting to watch this from the hill perspective. Weve seen the president do this you mentioned domestic politics. He says one thing and does something else. Lawmakers on the hill have done this without reason over and over again. You see romney coming out and saying, attacking iran over this would be a great mistake. Let them defend themselves, were already selling them arms. So lawmakers feel the need to chime in, but over time as he makes these sort of threats on twitter, people are like, is this the boy who cried wolf . They dont know when things are really serious and they need to intervene and try to talk him back, or if this is just trump being trump on twitter. Will adversaries even listen to these threats after a while and take they cm seriously . This situation escalates dramatically what has been a long and bloody war. But guess what, the United States is with saudi arabia which has been responsible for a lot of bloodshed in yemen, using american weapons at times. Thats why you see the democrats measuring inial. Tulsi gabbard saying, use having our country act as assault and batterys b is not america first. They dont need to do this. I think thats right. You put all the democratic talking points up there, but there is also a similar sentiment from the republican majority in congress right now, right . They are still sort of frustrated over the assassination of ckhashoggi and what iran views as a long soughtout battle. Thats right, this will get attention, but there is the history of the president s mixed and confusing statements but the fact they have coddled khashoggi after that murder, and a lot of people dont have love for khashoggi at this point. 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Really several issues here which are very difficult to work through for both sides. Its hard to tell where theyre at at this point. Theyve been negotiating since 10 00 this morning. Ive been told that those negotiations are ongoing at this point. I was told just before we came on the air that you had been in touch with gm in the middle of the negotiations saying they go on. The General Motors statement on sunday says we presented a strong offer that presents u. S. Jobs and its disappointing that the uaw leadership has chosen to strike. We have negotiated with a sense of urgency. Take us outside the union calculation here. They could have had a strike at one or two plants, they could have done something less broad. They decided to go big. Whats the strategy behind that . Experts are saying the reason for that obviously is to we have a lot of frustrated workers here. Im sure youre aware there are four unallocated u. S. Plants, General Motors plants. Those workers have a lot of them have been transferred to other places, and they still have jobs but theyre very upset that theyve had toleave their homes. Im from youngstown, ohio. I covered the Lordstown Assembly plant for four years. I talk to those people all the time. They still have homes in the youngstown area and theyre renting apartments where theyre at, whether thats bowling green, kentucky, lansing, michigan or flint, michigan. These people are upset. They feel like gm breached a contract with them, and they want gm to hurt, i think. I think the Union Leadership recognized that, recognized how frustrated the workers are over that situation. But on top of that, john, you have this ongoing uaw federal investigation into corruption, and really, i think the Union Leaders recognize that they need to show their members that they have gone to fight for them with a contract with this ongoing federal investigation. They want them to know they have fought for everything they could and going on strike was a last resort. Kalea, appreciate it. Youre on the ground. Well keep in touch in the days and hours ahead if necessary. The president has to make war and peace decisions about iran but also has to worry about the economy here at home because of energy prices. Here you have an auto strike including states critical to the trump map, and workers who said, i am your voice. Select me and your lives will get better. He has nothing to do with the negotiations between the union and gm, but he has everything to do with the outcome here. There is a fascinating set of politics at play here, because you have leaders who trend toward democrats, then you have the Union Workers who over the past few years have become more trump supporters. He really does have to watch his words here because right now the Union Leaders and the people they lead are in lockstep. Just to piggyback on that a little bit, trump did earn more support from Union Workers than republicans in 2012. But hes also closer to the leadership of gm. He tweeted about gm keeping some jobs in the country at one point. One of his former National Security and Economic Council ald vizers is one of the vps for Global Public policy at gm. And meanwhile hes trying to throw this needle in states like michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. My colleague was up in minnesota. He was working on a story about this issue and talked to a Regional Labor president in minnesota who said that trump is still a serious problem for him, and he said that he has members who said, quote, ive voted republican and the world didnt fall in, so maybe i better keep doing that. This is a serious issue for unions right now. Watch it play out again, the largest strike against the Auto Industry in a dozen years. Keep an eye on it. 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Reporter were going to see senator warren do something she doesnt do on the campaign trail, and that is read off a teleprompter. She usually speak off the cuff and doesnt need notes, but tonight shell use prepared notes. In fact, the last time was at a launch event in laurel, massachusetts, and whats interesting there are some parallels of that speech she gave back in february and the speech shes giving tonight. That speech in february was in everett mill in lauren, massachusetts. This was the site of the famous 1912 bread strike, one of the countrys better known labor strikes, and tonight shell be speaking in Washington Square park in downtown manhattan. This is right around the corner from the triangle short waves factory. This is where a big fire took place and dozens of workers ended up dying. That fire led to Workplace Safety regulations so significant in its symbolism as well. And the backdrop for this anticorruption plan you just talked about that Elizabeth Warren released just this morning, which of course has been a big overarching theme of her campaign, and i will just quickly note before i go that she has some good news headed into tonight as well. The working Families Party Just Announced it will be endorsing Elizabeth Warren in the 2020 primary, john. A boost for her as she unfolds this plan, and President Trump making the case that on all the issues youre frustrated, there is a rigged system. Up next for us, a report on Supreme Court Justice Brett kavanaugh. Saying allegations ate minimum cal at a minimum calls for a new investigation. Someone should investigate this. Because the fact that something has not been prove, it doesnt mean it didnt occur. Right . I dont think that in the United States senate that the leader of the senate would allow that there would be a vote if the house render r returned articles of impeachment to actually convict. 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The one who is actually being assaulted is justice kavanaugh, the president tweeted. He went on to say, do you believe what these horrible people will do or say . They should be sued. Back into the room, the addition of the editors note opened up to those, the president included on kavanaughs side, and on the right who think the New York Times is biased here. Thats what they did. They just came right out of the box, why wasnt that in the original piece to steer you from the substance. This one apparently reported to senator chris coons, a democrat, who advanced it to the fbi, copied senator chuck grassley, the committee chairman, on a note, and then it went nowhere. Yeah, were told we saw this letter, it went to the fbi ccing the judicial committee. He told christopher wray, the fbi director, about this. According to coons office, there was no conversation with the fbi afterwards, they simply acknowledged receipt of this letter. Youll recall at the time there was a flurry of allegations coming out against brett kavanaugh. It was unclear what was real, what was not real. It opened up this vicious partisan debate which led to a second hearing for the woman who made these allegations that kavanaugh apparently did that he denied at a party in high school, and that led tie supplemental background check investigation, a second fbi investigation. The question now was that a limited investigation . We know it was limited. Was it too limited, is the ultimate question democrats have been raising since then and continue to raise, and now youre saying youre hearing those president ial candidates saying, its time to impeach the justice before there is any additional investigation. But thats something chairman jerry nadler is not showing much excitement to do, having an impeachment investigation. Among the 2020 candidates, warren, buttigieg and castro say impeach. You get this here we go again, i guess, in the story that wont go away. Where do we go here . Is this just going to be both bases continue their sniping at each other with a man on the Supreme Court, or will we get something out of congress . Congress has jurisdiction over the doj and the fbi, so of course theyll be writing to the fbi saying, why did you not follow up on this . But the Judiciary Committee has their hands full now. 2020 is about to kick into high gear, and if theyre going to impeach the president , they need to move public sentiment and do it now in the next five months. Privately im hearing from democrats on the hill, yes, this looks bad and theyll ask the fbi about it, but kavanaugh, jumping on this train that were hearing 2020 dems riding on right now, there is a lot of skepticism whether theyll go there. Its unclear if this is good politics for democrats. Lets not forget, in 2015, the whole kavanaugh confirmation process really enlivened their public base in a way we dont know if it would have had that not happened. Would the doj rescue kavanaugh, and youre asking, what does that mean . It doesnt mean much of anything, i dont think, other than trump just venting on twitter. Sometimes its an impossible story to go through. I want to return now to the top story we had at the beginning of the program. This weeks attack on saudi arabias Oil Facilities. Callie, i understand you have new reporting, your sources telling you what theyve come to conclude. Reporter thats right. Were now learning that the u. S. Has told at least one ally in the middle east that the u. S. Does have intelligence that backs up what secretary pompeo has now publicly said, that iran is to blame for these attacks on the saudi oil field, and that the attacks were staged from iran. The diplomat who i spoke to about this did point out, however, that the u. S. Has not showed their allies this intelligence yet. There are still internal conversations going on within the u. S. Government, within the u. S. Intelligence to determine when and if they can share that information. But separately, a u. S. Official is telling my colleague that the u. S. Has made the determination that the attack was originated in iran, so now we are waiting to see when and if they are going to share that intelligence with allies in the region and with the public as they determine how to move forward here. John . Important information, and that if is a big if. Well continue to stay on top of it, callie. I appreciate the important update there. Somber news in afghanistan. A u. S. Service member was killed in action today. That serviceman, the 17th american killed in combat in afghanistan this year. Well be right back. With sofi, get your credit cards right by consolidating your Credit Card Debt into one monthly payment. And get your Interest Rate right. 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Donald trump and Mitch Mcconnell pretending to be interested in something that is literally a life and death issue for 44 million americans killed by gun violence. Its simply not enough. It is an interesting subfight with congress debating on whether to do anything. Chuck schumer spoke to the president yesterday about moving forward on that, and now you have a fight against two president ial candidates about how big, how bold, what to do . But do you want someone who inspires all the passion, who shows that passion like orourke is doing . Or do you want someone like buttigieg who is talking about getting a deal done and finding a middle ground. There was a piece in the daily beast about when orourke came out about this, there were a lot of democrats nervous about this, that it would turn into a talking point from the nra and take away a debate and allowing republicans to use it as a scare tactic. But nuance rarely wins you voters because they want you to talk big and bold, talk about you could do anything under the sun without the realities of how you govern in washington, particularly with the senate where the filibuster rules still exist. You need to cut a deal on Something Like this. Guns absolutely divide both parties flight, and you see how hard it is to do something very modest after two massacres this summer. Buttigieg this summer trying to make that point. It would be harder for buttigieg in a primary point. He said im not telling you what to do, but im talking about politics, not governing. You need to trim your sales. They all agree. They think the moment the democrats start talk about taking away guns, they lose any potential for progress. Expanded background checks, 90 of the majority support expanded background checks. Keep something we can actually win. You have to walk until you start running, and if you do this, you freak out republvoters and they away. 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