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White house and other immigration officials acknowledge, yes, chronic overcrowding but deny reports Young Children are routinely denied showers and other things. And a billionaire indicted for operating a sex trafficking ring allegedly involving dozens of underage girls. Jeffrey epstein faced similar allegations a decade ago but avoided prosecution in a controversial deal with a federal prosecutor who is now in President Trumps cabinet. Alleged behavior shocks the conscience. And while the charged conduct is from a number of years ago, it is still profoundly important to the many alleged victims, now young women. They deserve their day in court, and we are proud to be standing up for them by bringing this indictment. We begin the hour with that very breaking news. Sordid charges leveled last hour against a politically connected billionaire. Federal prosecutors unceiling an indictment against Jeffrey Epstein alleging the finance tycoon operated a sex trafficking ring largely so he could abuse underage girls. Last hour prosecutors detailing epsteins alleged conduct at a press conference and urging any other victims to come forward. If convicted, Geoffrey Berman says epstein would likely spend the rest of his life in jail. The big threat of jail time makes epstein a flight risk and the feds will ask a judge to deny him bail. The fbi at the press Conference Today calling epsteins prosecution important for his alleged victims and as a warning to those who see themselves as above the law. We are parents, we are community members, we are human beings. But as an fbi special agent and the head of this office, i have the privilege to represent and stand among many who make it our mission to put predators behind bars where they belong, regardless of the predators power, wealth on the perceived connections. Cnn was in the room as the charges were unveiled. Whats the big takeaway from this big headlinegrabbing case . I think its important and the prosecutors here and the fbi made it very clear is to focus on the victims and their whole goal was not to forget the victims. In that deal that you talked about that epstein had signed back in 2008 in florida where he essentially escaped any major prosecution, the u. S. Attorney here said they were not bound by this agreement. There was a nonprosecution agreement that epstein and the u. S. Attorney and the fbi there in florida at the time were in. The u. S. Attorney here, interesting, we did not know this that the Southern District of new york was not bound by that agreement and, therefore, thats what allowed them to bring these charges. As you said, these started in 2002 to 2005 when hes alleged to have committed these terrible, terrible acts. You think about dozens and dozens of girls prosecutors say some as young as 14. He would recruit them. He would have employees in the indictment they dont identify these employees, but it seems some of them are cooperating with investigators. They helped facilitate some of these meetings with these underage girls. It started out as a massage and quickly escalated to sexual acts. He is due in court this afternoon. Prosecutors here say that theyre going to ask that he be detained. Theyre going to file a detention memo, and we should be getting that shortly. Thats going to contain a lot of new details, so hopefully well have that for you. But nonetheless, i think the importance of today, as you can see from prosecutors and the fbi was really not to forget the victims here and to make sure that in the end, they were denied by the authorities in florida, that they, the victims, be able to come into court and have their day in court and talk about what happened to them. Shimon, come back if any new details come out. Paul callan joins us and aisha, michael and lisa. Paul, i want to start with you. If youre Jeffrey Epsteins defense lawyer, youre going to go in and say double jeopardy, this was done. Does he have any way to make that case . Or is it new york u. S. Attorney correct when he says were not bound by that, we feel secure here. No, i think the u. S. Attorney in new york is correct. These agreements are drafted usually in such a way that only the Federal District where the plea is taken is bound by the agreement and by the rules of double jeopardy. So i think theyll have a weak argument on the double jeopardy claim. I also think, john, the thing thats so shocking to me about these charges, they all involve the time period of 2002 to 2005. Thats exactly the time period that the current secretary of labor, alex acosta, was investigating when he was u. S. Attorney in florida and he negotiated this sweet deal for epstein to be able to take a plea to some minor state charges. So he was looking at the same fact pattern essentially and came up with nothing, whereas Southern District prosecutors have come up with this very, very tough indictment. Thats a great point you make. If you were listening to Geoffrey Berman, he was essentially saying the decision made by someone years ago, in his equal position in a different jurisdiction, he was saying the guy made a horribly bad call and ignored the rights of the victims here. I want you to help me because youre a trained lawyer and sometimes hear things in terms of the language. They said in executing a search warrant they found pictures, nude pictures in Jeffrey Epsteins house that they believe to be underage women. So that tells you these charges are based on this short period of time, fouryear period of time back 15 years ago, 17 years ago, the beginning of that period of time, but it sounded very much to me that they think they have an open case nand are develop new evidence . It could mean that or it could mean that he saved old pictures from that 2002 to 2005 time period. I saw another suggestion there that because they were raiding his mansion on the Upper East Side of manhattan, the hint is that many maof the crimes occurd in this mansion. Will they be looking to seize the mansion . They often do this with drug dealers where drug crimes have occurred in expensive cars and at expensive locales owned by drug dealers. It will be interesting to see what assets of epstein prosecutors seek to seize. We have somebody here who is wellknown in the world of high finance, well connected politically, friendly with bill clinton, friendly with donald trump, an expresident and current president of the United States. We have to be careful. As these people lay out the facts, one of the things Geoffrey Berman said was dont ask me about anybody else. Youre going to get a no comment. Youre going to get a no comment if you ask if theyre rich and powerful people. What do we make of this environment . This does not look good for anybody is what we can take away. Bill clinton flew on the plane with Jeffrey Epstein, a plane nicknamed the lolita express. Donald trump was quoted in a magazine story in 2002 talking about how epstein liked them, quote, on the younger side. So we cannot connect those dots. We know that he had some powerful friends. We know that he gave a fair amount of political donations to both parties. So its part of pocks on both their houses. The president did say ive known jeff 15 years, a terrific guy. Its even said he likes beautiful women as much as i do. Many of them are on the younger side, no doubt about it. That was the president of the United States a long time ago. David axelrod seizing on that. Hes a lot of fun to be with, mr. Trump said at the time. Its even said he likes beautiful women. He quotes the president there and then connects it to the labor secretary. Cut this creep an extraordinary deal, disgusting. Fair political commentary . It seems that this was potentially an open secret with many people and this is why epstein managed to have those connections. This is the whole swamp thing whether its in miami, new york or connected to people in d. C. It comes back to roost, though, with acosta most directly in terms of the political figures that were surrounding him. You could make a separate argument about the people who enabled this activity. Because he was the prosecutor that was actually negotiating with the lawyers and seems like on the books he had an opportunity to come down really, really hard and throw this guy into jail for the rest of his life. As it turns out he was in prison for 13 months and spent 12 hours a day six days a week going to an office and seemed to get off fairly easy. In an environment in which everybody wanted to give this guy a pass except for the local police chief who was looking at it, maybe not that surprising. But now his responsibility, his decision that he has to answer to. Whether or not theres some sort of a formal process that would lead to him being culpable, its just the specter of it all, especially at this time and the position that hes in. Were also in a climate where these kinds of behaviors by powerful men are tolerated far less than they used to be. Correct. So open secrets, were not in a place where people tolerate open secrets anymore, particularly in democratic politics. And to that point, ben sasse, republican senator of nebraska, is among those who months ago was outraged with the miami herald and blessed them for incredibly solid detailed investigative reporting that the attorney in new york said helped them start to build their case. These victims will now get their day in court. Ben sasse saying he has wealth, power and connections but the children he abused have the law on theirs. Epstein should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, power and wealth be damned. It is a statement. Theyre essentially repudiating a member of the president s cabinet saying, pal, whatever you saw on paper, you cut a really bad deal. That is the question right now, what happens with acosta. Can he survive in the cabinet as more details come out. These were heinous crimes. These were horrible things that happened to dozens of girls. To have this sweetheart deal where the man is still able to go to work at his highpowered job while hes supposed to be serving time, there are real questions about how do you agree to that. How do you let this slide. And if i can just bring it back to what you said asked at the beginning about sort of what are the possible sort of political implications for this, weve seen in the Michael Cohen case not that long ago similar kind of context, same u. S. Attorney, how when you give when you start an investigation that has subpoena power, that actually can start to dig into a situation in ways that journalists cant, that you do uncover things and who knows whats there. But politicians, whoever they are, in whatever political party, should be quaking in their boots a little bit. If there are things there, this investigation may well turn it up. Well watch it play out. A Court Hearing this afternoon. We may learn more. Up next, the 2020 democrats try to woo voters in South Carolina, even the ones not yet old enough to vote. My first Favorite Team is the warriors. Im from oakland. Dont hate. Dont hate. Hes not a lakers fan, hes a lebron fan. Oh, thats what thats about. Cdc guidance recommends topical pain relievers first. Like salonpas patch large. Its powerful, fdaapproved to relieve moderate pain for up to 12 hours, yet nonaddictive and gentle on the body. Salonpas. Its good medicine. Hisamitsu. 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Was i wrong a few weeks ago to somehow give the impression to people that i was praising those men who i successfully opposed time and again . Yes, i was. I regret it. Im sorry for any of the pain or misconception that may have caused anybody. Thats notable. Former Vice President making that apology from a stage in South Carolina where africanamerican voters make up a giant influential voting block in democratic primaries. Biden says the location, chosen on purpose. The first opportunity i had to do it in a fulsome way. Im proud of my past. Have i made mistakes . Yes. Do we grow . Yes. But the fact of the matter is thats why i chose here in South Carolina and chose an audience that in fact would be the most likely to have been offended by anything that was said. Cnns jeff zeleny is live in myrtle beach, South Carolina. Jeff, youre down there talking to voters in South Carolina. What are you hearing . Reporter well, john, theres no question that joe biden this weekend was trying to clean up a lot of things. You heard him there saying he regretted expressing friendship with the segregationists. Hes not quite right when he said this is the first chance for him to apologize. Of course he gave a speech at jim clyburns fish fry a couple of weeks ago, spoke to the South Carolina Democratic Convention here. The change thats changed is that he had a rocky debate performance and the polls are showing that Kamala Harris is rising. I am here at an event for senator harris talking with voters here and with the former Vice President yesterday. There is a very mixed bag. Almost no voter ive talked to said that this race is going to turn on busing. Its not about that necessarily. Its about joe biden, does he represent the past or the future. So some of his supporters were happy to see him simply move on. Others are saying that they do not want this to divide this democratic contest. Senator harris is also aware of some potential blowback for her role in sparking all of this as well, john. One thing im also learning today that the former president , barack obama, whose name has been invoked again and again by joe biden has he wraps him and embraces him, the two men have not spoken since that debate a couple weeks ago. But the obama advisers are well aware that joe biden plans to use his entire record from his time in the administration and they say its fair game for him to use that. Obama advisers also point out and say that he is not going to weigh in at all and still has not endorsed anyone in this race. Voters, john, when they talk to him may get the impression that barack obama is on joe bidens side because he mentions his name so often. The obama folks saying not so fast, he has no plans at this point any time soon to offer an endorsement or weigh in on any of this back and forth. John. Jeff zeleny, on the ground in the South Carolina. Lets bring it in the room. So the debate brings the frontrunner back to earth. That happens. Frontrunners gets challenged. Every candidate stumbles. The question is can you recover. Is saying sorry a couple weeks later enough . I think well have to see if its enough, but you point out its a couple of weeks later. I think the reason why he had to apologize is that in this political environment, in this news environment, this issue was still coming up where things usually just kind of fade away. And so he had to address this. I understand why he continues to really tie himself so closely to obama. This has been helpful to him. I do wonder how far that will take him. Hes the frontrunner right now and its still very early, but is it going to be enough to say i was with obama. Obama is my best friend and so vote for me. Will that be enough to carry him. To that point, just to that point, look, he served as a loyal Vice President for eight years to a democratic candidate who is still very popular, especially popular among africanamerican voters because he made history, of course. And so joe biden name drops a lot. Barack, when he got elected president , everything landed on his desk but locusts. No, im serious. Pennsylvania and michigan, wisconsin, minnesota and ohio and places barack and i won. As United States senator and then as baracks Vice President , he gave me significant assignments in the area of foreign policy. I would immediately reinstate the limitations that barack and i the president put in place. They know he was Barack Obamas Vice President , right . Does he need to keep doing that . I guess is there a risk in overdoing it . People think why do you need the cloak of barack obama . Why cant you be your own man . So far his support among black voters has been fairly durable, despite these things weve been covering, these gaffes at least. You have this very riskaverse democratic electorate. They want to beat trump, that is first and foremost in their mind and they want the least risky person to do it. The problem with joe biden is if he starts looking riskier, if he keeps making these mistakes, if he has trouble managing them, if he looks like hes maybe lost a step or whatever, then he becomes not the least risky candidate, he becomes a far riskier candidate. At the same time, if other newer figures like Kamala Harris can prove that they can do it and reassure some of these concerns that you hear a lot when youre talking to voters. The next set of debates are three weeks away. So if youre another democrat, you say, whoa, biden did stumble a little bit. Kamala harris did have a moment. Youre all thinking whats mine, how do i get it. The question is if theres an opportunity, can she seize on it. She says good apology, mr. Vice president , but. Well, he says hes sorry. Im going to take him at his word. But again that doesnt address the issue of busing in america and the fact that he still you know, we have to we cannot rewrite history. I mean i think that he is right to recognize the impact of his words and i applaud him for doing that and having the courage to do it. There is still plenty of disagreement between he and i and that remains. So she wants to keep this conversation going. In some ways its about busing, its about biden seeming to talk favorably about working with segregationists. But is biden as strong az debater as we thought . Are there holes in his record . Is harris or somebody else going to grow to the point where democrats say, wait a minute. Put aside the issue of race and busing. Thats an issue that the party and the country will talk about. But to lisas point on visavis trump, people in these primaries close their eyes and imagine somebody like biden and they imagine him going up against trump. Those kinds of situations where trump says something, if biden were to be the nominee and attacks biden, people imagine how would he respond . And what they saw play out over the last three weeks is an example of how he might respond. In a stumbling way, not apologizing right away, not cleaning up right away, letting multiple opportunities go by without really sort of seeming like he kind of knew what to do or what to say. And people imagined that that would be what it was like if he was to face trump and thats damaging to him. So we will see. You mentioned does he recover. Every candidate, no matter how good you are, makes mistakes. The question is do you learn and recover. The next democratic president ial depatriots will take place right here on cnn in three weeks. On july 30th and 31st, live from detroit, watched in the United States and around the world. The debates will be moderated by jake tapper, dana bash and don lemon. 20 candidates vying for the white house will participate in those debates, ten taking the stage each night to face off against each other and answer questions from the moderators. Before that, this is interesting, cnn will conduct a draw to determine which night each candidate will appear. The draw to determine the participants for each debate night will air live on july 18th in the 8 00 p. M. Hour eastern time right here on cnn. We are doing that draw live on the air for full transparency so everyone will get to see it for themselves, who ended up on what nights and how that was done. Well be right back. Have a discount with another wireless carrier . Tmobile will match it. Need a few more reasons to switch . 1. Do you like netflix . Sure you do. Thats why its on us. 2. Unlimited data. 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The four shes addressing, alexandria ocasiocortez, ill han row mar, Rashida Tlaib and ayana presley. Tensions still quite high after the fight over border funds which saw them break from their party rejecting it. That public whatever is called public sentiment, wrote ocasiocortez and wielding the power to shift it is how we achieve meaningful change. Omar adding you know theyre just salty about who is wielding the power to shift public sentiment these days. Sorry not sorry. This is a great generational drama within the Democratic Party. Some of these younger members who dont like to be told wait your turn, who are much more active on social media than the older traditional guard like speaker pelosi. You also have the most powerful woman in american politics dealing with an insurgency of sorts from four younger rising stars in the Democratic Party. Is it just a drama . Generational impact . Ideological differences . Or is it having impact on the democrats ability to do business . Its not just a drama, but it is a debate that is playing out on a larger stage than congress. This is a question thats happening much more on the president ial primary circuit of where is the Democratic Party, where is the heart and soul of it. Which direction should they be moving in, center or more to the left. These are big idea issues that theyre fighting over. Congress is about number counting. Congress is about coalition building. Congress is about getting past a threshold and what can actually Pass Congress is never the shift in public sentiment that might be happening across the country. Its the reality check and the gut check of where we are now is in congress so its interesting to see this playing out. Theyre really talking past each other. Nancy pelosis objectives are not the objectives of aoc andra she hadda talib and ayana presley. But shes not wrong if you compare these four young progressives on the left to the Freedom Caucus or the tea party, the one thing the tea party had was it did have the votes to block things, to push things, to really frustrate the leadership. They didnt just bring rhetoric, they brought votes. So far that could change, so far we havent seen demonstrations that these four very sort of energetic, passionate liberals can actually bring votes to really frustrate the speaker. The border vote was an example of that. One place to watch it play out will be in the election, of course, because there are a lot of threats circulating of primaries that some of these people would support primary challenges to some of the older members in congress. At the same time you have pelosi saying, look, the Democratic Path to the majority runs through moderate suburban districts. Thats what won the party back the majority and those are the districts that the party needs to hold going forward. So i think the place where this youre right, the place where this big ideas contest could have actual reallife implications is in the elections, not only the president ial but congressional as well. You mentioned the border vote. Theyre back this week and they have a lot of spending issues to deal with. The democrats run the house. They promised they would not be like the republicans who had the Freedom Caucus, every time they tried to pass a normal budget, the Freedom Caucus blew it up so they had to do ongoing appropriations bills. Talib said you want our votes, give us more respect. Honor the fact that we were there, that 650,000 people are represented by each and every single one of us. That there is some sort of, i think in many ways, Something Special about having a refugee, having a woman that has experienced what incarceration has done to her family. All of us have these experiences that i think have been missing in the halls of congress. Honor that, respect that, put us at the table. Lets come up with a solution together. But there is a better approach. It is very disappointing that the speaker would ever try to diminish our voices in so many ways. Its interesting. And i think what they are trying to argue is, look, yes, nancy pelosi is very good in congress and getting the votes and in building coalitions. What theyre arguing is going forward, youre going to need people. Youre going to need the young people, youre going to need voters to be energized. Theyre saying that they have the energy on their side. That theyll be able to get people to come out. Theyll be able to in those places where things were really close for donald trump in the president ial election, if you had more of the Democratic Base getting out, if you had more people getting out and young people and all of these people voting, it could make a real difference. And so i think that they are trying to say, look, we have some energy on our side and we can bring that to the table. Thats true, but one thing is about is nancy pelosi actually afraid of that . I think this goes to michaels point, which is the Freedom Caucus did have more numbers, thats true, but republicans were much more obsessed with obeying the hastert rule. Nancy pelosi is much more old school politician. She will and people respect her because she has managed to make things like the Health Care Bill work. So before the very Younger Generation is successful in that way, she has a lot of buffer room and mentality about this that says i dont have to please every last member in order to get what our objective assay as a party are through the house. Up next for us, new details on the billionaire accused of operating a sex trafficking ring. In one week. A lot will happen in your life. Wrinkles just wont. 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Theyre crowded because people come up, but now thanks to mexico its slowing down greatly, and i think youll start seeing some very good numbers. But it is crowded. But we want to have the press go in and see because the New York Times, it really is fake news. You have a fair point . I suspect the reporting is very good reporting. There is a very of how this is happening, why this is happening, the motive of it happening. Is it a system that is just overwhelmed but the facts are the facts. The department of Homeland Securitys inspector general, which is the independent watchdog, went into some of these Detention Centers and described squalid conditions and all of these things, so this is not just coming from the New York Times, this is coming from the government itself and the people who are supposed to be looking at this. Theyre saying that these conditions are that these conditions are not good for these children who are being held. And within the administration, what you get is the position that, yes, theres chronic overcrowding. Yes, we need more resources. Yes, it would be nice if congress could have a plan as to what we should do here in the middle of all of this here. This is the chief Border Patrol agent in el paso responsible for the clint center which is in focus on cnn this morning. Every two days these children are getting offered shower facilities. Now, we cannot make them shower. We can take them to the shower and we can put them there, but we cant physically make them shower. Its the same thing with brushing their teeth. We encounter children who have never brushed their teeth. Weve had a lot of agents had to teach them basic hygiene. This is no secret that all of these aspects, food, water, hygiene, showers, launds ry, wee monitored in all of this. These things are documented. Were sitting here in washington, d. C. The political argument is from the president s critics, is sometimes this is on purpose. They horde these people into the centers and mistreat them because they dont care. There you have the Border Patrol saying were overwhelmed. It isnt perfect but were not trying to deny people anything, its just overwhelmed. First of all, there has been in this administration a political push for deterrence of all sorts in all sorts of different ways, which i think does raise all sorts of questions about whether the administration was more than happy to let the conditions at the border become such that people wouldnt want to come and the president has said that. And then in addition, the question he said that they have been monitoring hygiene and what have you. There were reports at one place, i think, of two shower stalls for like 450 migrants in a particular place. Its impossible to imagine that you could cycle that many people through two showers. So i think, you know, as you said, the facts are the facts. I think its clear from the lawyers and everybody else thats been there that these have been really deplorable conditions. Letting us in post facto after they have cleaned up and moved out most of the people, thats totally different. The acting Homeland Security secretary says, yes, things were bad. He said since the border deal was passed, things are already getting better. Were trying to provide as much space and as much as nice a setting as we possibly can while children are in our custody but the big point was to move them to hhs. On june 1st we had 2500 children in our custody. Now that we have the supplemental from congress, hhs has additional beds and we only have 350 as of yesterday afternoons report and only 20 of those children have been with us more than three days. I mean if the government was able to move that fast after getting money good, for the secretary. But back to the president s point, you say it is post facto, there should be transparency so we can put all these numbers to the test. One thing thats been particularly striking about this to me has been the compassion the president showed when children in syria were getting hurt and how he jumped immediately. He started military action in syria, all these things. He does not seem to share the same compassion about reports for children within his own borders. It really is a striking thing and it does get to this point that you were making about deterrence, about this being both a policy and a bit of a political strategy, cracking down on immigration at the border was a major part of his campaign. He promised to build a wall, that wall has not been built. So you tie these threads together and it does seem like this is there is a strategy at play here. Also its a little surprising when you see officials going on the air and seeming surprised that kids arent acting like adults. Theyre children and theyre children separated from their families. So whether it was deliberate or not in terms of deterrence, also if it wasnt deliberate, the idea that you would be surprised that you were managing children and thats difficult and requires other approaches is rather shocking. There is a fair point that this is not a system that was set up for children. That the nature of these migrants has changed and so now you have unaccompanied 3yearolds that are 16yearolds or 15yearolds are being asked to watch that are not even related to the toddlers. You know, but you could do something about changing the conditions and dealing with the reality of the problem on the ground now. We shall see. Again to your point about the president , maybe he should visit and see how that happens. Remember tom steyer, the big democratic donor in all those impeachment ads who said he was not going to run for president . R , little thican be a big deal. Thats why theres otezla. 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Remember tom steyer telling us in january his team is best spent on impeachment, not on running in 2020. I am not running for president at this time. Instead, i am strengthening my commitment to need to impeachment in 2019. Well, hes reconsidering planning to announce hes running as soon as tomorrow. A source telling cnn he never fully ruled out running for president despite what you just heard him say back in january. Is the Democratic Party screaming for tom steyers late entry . Look, this is the benefit of having a lot of money. He doesnt have the same problems a lot of other people have in this crowded field of having to have the money to go the distance in this race. I think theres a little frustration about how his push for impeachment, the attention its gotten once it turns out when youre not a president ial candidate, sometimes your priorities get a lot less attention. So its a combination of resources and he definitely has an issue that he is focused on. 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