Wanted to have them all in this same meeting in the same room here to discuss all this with the president. But still, even though the vote is scheduled for this evening, expected this evening, other republicans im talking to here and on capitol hill say they would nobt at all surprised if it was set aside or pushed back. That happens, thats a sign there is a big problem. John . Thats an understatement to say the least. Jeff zeleny at the white house. Lets bring it into the room. House Speaker Paul Ryan was supposed to speak to reporters this morning. Hes delayed that until this afternoon. Horse trading behind closed doors, wheeling and dealing, the very thing republicans criticize the democrats for doing when they passed obamacare but well put that aside for a second. What does this tell you that the president is meeting and gets a standing ovation from members of the House Freedom caucus who at the moment you can make the case are undermining the president on priority number one because they wont accept what he thought was the plan early in the week. They are 100 undermining him
buy them a la cart. They become unaffordable. Are murkowski and collins going to be willing to vote for that. The moderates in the house. You move the bill to the right, it becomes a problem on the left. Ive seen about 30 members opposed. 15 in the Freedom Caucus, about 15 outside of that. Those people are on the left and the more changes you make in terms of Maternity Leave and things like that. Weve seen four or five members on the left side of the party. Theyre voting no in the last couple of days. Thats where the draining of votes is coming from. What is the president willing to do to get this done. This is the guy who said i can do this. I can cut these deals. Even now the changes theyve made so far. Theyd already agreed to add a Work Requirement on medicaid. Let states pick block grants for the Medicaid Funding if they wanted to. Ban new states. 30plus states have already expanded medicaid. With a win. But he doesnt have a lot more he can offer them and still hold to what he said during the campaign. Were on what was supposed to be the day of the vote. Weve seen these things play out before. A lot of horse trading. Small details. But what they are debating here is the fundamental question of whether the federal government should be dictating what kind of Insurance Benefits people have or not. And that is the fundamental question that lies at the whole root of this debate. They are actually having this debate at the white house hours before and the man cutting the deal, the closer, is a nonideological republican president who promised many things during the campaign that gives conservatives fits. Is he willing to change . You spent a lot of time on capitol hill. If paul ryan has to pull this bill today, what does that say . And for those of you at home, apologies for washington speak but theyre trying to do this under reconciliation. The reason they cant do everything is that the senate rules they believe wont allow that. The house is trying to do part
of this. What does it say for the speaker if he has to, as Speaker Boehner did before him, has to pull this . Its very, very bad for his leadership. Its very bad, again, not just for the president but for paul ryan. Theres no question about it. Is it bad also for tax reform and for Everything Else down the road . I was just going to saiy, it is also entirely possible thats going to happen, that he is going to have to pull the bill unless the president can seal some kind of deal with this bloc of Freedom Caucus members who are there right now. But what does that mean . Lets just take this hypothetical down the road here. If he has to pull the bill, it is possible that it probable that theyll turn to tax reform. And i actually think Something Like tax reform could be more of a Consensus Builder for republicans. Could be. Could be. One big exception, though. The import adjustment. No question. They could have the same dynamic. No question, they could. But its not as personal for these constituents. And health care is about as personal as it gets when you talk about legislation that affects me. That affects people would the Freedom Caucus be team players once obama was out of the presidency . Sounds like theyre behaving the exact same way they were before. Thats important the question is the model theyre establishing. If the price of getting it out of the house is adding provisions that make it almost impossible to pass the senate, even if they do pass it in the next several days, have they created a precedent thats valuable or damaging . Can i just answer your question in one other way as well about paul ryans leadership . There already has been a lot of secondguessing about the way he approached this from the beginning. Basically for a lot of conservatives, he compromised and negotiated with himself. This has already been too moderate. That he should have, knowing the freedom cacaucus, Knowing The W has republicans are, started further to the right knowing
that when he gets to the senate its going to have to be moderated and even more so and that many members of the Freedom Caucus understand that. That they are already starting, from their perspective, way too far to the middle. The congressional Budget Offers said would remove Health Insurance for 24 Million People and they may vote before having a final estimate on this bill, which likely would be even higher and would have higher outofpocket costs for those older working age adults. A majority of votes came from whites over 45. Threequarters of all people in the country over 45 are white. These are Republican Voters who would be the big losers in this shift of risk and cost that is inherent in the deregulation in this bill. Well come back to this later. We are keeping an eye on this meeting. Someone else has his phone or hes taking a break. He just tweeted out, were going to pass this. Contact your representatives. The president is asking for your help, even as hes in this key
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not take the opportunity to talk about radical islamic terrorism or this is why we need to get tough or this is why we need my travel ban. It was very muted and what we learned later hes been talking to his National Security adviser about this, i think that thats probably the reason why. They also hadnt learned a whole hell of a lot by the time that hasnt stopped him before. That has not stopped him before. Thats a striking contrast. That look felt like a tweet that may have been written by someone else. The staff. May have felt like a staff tweet as opposed to the tap with two ps in the middle of the night. Were probably going to see a presidency that goes back and forth and any time you look youve turned the corner and have a restrained donald trump as president , you know, a few hours later youll have something else. His son acted differently. Donald trump jr. Tweeting an old article from the london mayor, a muslim, from september 22, 2016
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They say it proved yesterday hes more interested in protecting President Trump than following the facts. The chairman will need to decide whether he is the chairman of an independent investigation into conduct which includes allegations of Potential Coordination between the Trump Campaign and the russians or he is going to act as a surrogate of the white house because he cannot do both. More on that wrinkle and the fallout in a moment. Important new cnn reporting on what the fbi director this week confirmed is an investigation into the possibility associates of then candidate donald trump coordinated with russian operatives last year just as the kremlin leaked hacked emails from the Democratic National committee and from Hillary Clintons campaign chairman. Several sources familiar with the investigation tell cnn the fbi has not concluded there was collusion but has gathered evidence suggesting such coordination may have taken place. Justice Correspondent Evan Perez helped break this story and joins us now to lay it out. What information do investigators have that make them believe there may have been some collusion or coordination as the fbi director put it in his public testimony this week . John, u. S. Officials tell cnn that the fbi has information that includes human intelligence, travel, business and Phone Records and accounts of inperson meetings that this information is raising the suspicions of the fbi counterintelligence investigators. And one Law Enforcement official said that the information suggests people connected to the campaign were in contact and it appeared that they were giving the thumbs up to release information when it was ready. That said, there were other officials we spoke to who said its premature to draw that inference from the information thats been gathered so far since its largely circumstantial. The bottom line is that the fbi cannot yet prove that collusion actually took place, but the information suggesting collusion is now the focus of this investigation. I should note the fbi would not comment for this story, nor would the white house. Trump officials have denied that theres any evidence of collusion, john. That they have. We should make that clear. They have denied any collusion. They have said they will be proven right. Do we know at this point who is being investigated . We dont know exactly who is connected who is connected to trump thats being investigated for possible coordination. But we do know that the fbi has already been investigating four at least four former Trump Campaign associates, michael flynn, paul manafort, roger stone and carter page for contacts with russians that are known to u. S. Intelligence. Now all four of these men have denied improper contacts. And one of the interesting things here is that the fbi is running into some obstacles in trying to find any conclusive intelligence that communications between trumps associates and russians was meant for coordination. Some of that communication that the fbi knew about has ceased in recent months given the focus on russias ties to the Trump Campaign. And also some of the officials
at the fbi was keeping an eye on has changed their methods of communications making it that much more difficult for the fbi investigators. Evan perez, fascinating investigating. Its clear from the fbi directors public testimony that he admitted and acknowledged the investigation included possible possible urk, under possible coordination. If you thought this was going to go away quickly, no. The quote from the Law Enforcement official that evan reported was the finish line, i think, in the worst Case Scenario for republicans as this story has developed. Theyre not there yet, obviously, as he said. Theyve not yet proven this. But the fact they have enough evidence to that someone with knowledge said something that strong about circumstantial evidence or even more than
adam schiff said morthan circumstantial, pointed to collusi collusion. Were talking about the stakes raising very quickly. In other scandals in my adult lifetime in washington, things often move forward when individuals begin to face possible legal jeopardy and have to make choices about what theyre going to say in congressional testimony or to federal investigators and the fact that there are specific individuals that they were citing as being the areas of focus of this investigation means that things could happen potentially to move this forward more rapidly than seems possible. And as this plays out, the fbi investigation, which as you can tell by evans choice of words there. Were being very kaurful about what we know and dont know. The fbi clearly has evidence, travel records, other documents, phone calls, scheduled meetings that lead them to believe this is something they need to explore. As that plays out, the fbi director was quite clear, i dont know how long this is going to take. We have Intelligence Committee investigations and the head of the house Intelligence Committee caused a bit of a stir
yesterday. Devin nunes reviewed some intelligence that showed him that members of the Trump Transition Team were under some form of surveillance. He said it was incidental meaning that someone was legally under surveillance, had a conversation with the trump transition. Devin nunes said that he believed it had nothing to do with russia, nothing to do with the issue under investigation by his committee at the moment. Today he came out from a meeting. The democrats were mad about this. Devin nunes took that information and talked to reporters and then went to the president of the United States and briefed him on information before he talked to any other members of the committee. Republicans and the ranking democrat. Devin nunes emerged from a meeting this morning saying that was his Judgment Call. It was a Judgment Call on my part. And thats at the end of the day, sometimes you make the right decisions. Sometimes you make the wrong one but you have to stick by the decisions you make. And here before we jump into the politics of this and the fascinating part of this. Heres what he said yesterday. Hes the chairman of what is
supposed to be an independent investigation of possible inappropriate activity by associates of the president of the United States. Thats what theyre investigating. Heres what he why he said he went to the white house. Because what i saw is has nothing to do with russia and nothing to do with the russia investigation. Has everything to do with possible surveillance activities, and the president needs to know these Intelligence Reports are out there. I have a duty to tell him that. Does he have a duty to tell him that . No, he doesnt. Thats not his job at all. The duty when it comes to the president is from the intelligence community. Now the cia director, the director of intelligence and so forth. What the duty of the house and senate Intelligence Committees are is oversight of those communities. It is not to be the person to keep the president inform. Hes got an entire intelligence apparatus to do that. One thing i want to add to the reporting here is that now hes saying he made a Judgment Call. Im told that before he went out to do his initial Press Conference, first he talked to reporters on the hill and went to brief the president and then came out and talked in that clip he just showed that he was actually very upset, steaming mad about whatever he said he saw or was told about. And that at the time, there were members of the committee, republican members of the committee, trying to calm him down saying a couple of things. Dont go out and do a Press Conference about this. This is going to throw the entire investigation about russia in the garbage, basically. And dont you want to talk to adam schiff, the top democrat before you do this . He was so mad, he said no. And one of the reasons im told by a source familiar with this meeting is because he said adam schiff at the hearing on monday, where they had james comey, had a 15minute monologue trying to connect dots that werent there and he was upset about that. But its pretty clear in what he said today that he realizes now that hes calm that he probably should have heeded the advice of those republicans. Like your mother told you, count to ten. Not only is this not his role as the Intelligence Committee chairman but particularly when this investigation is going on. The fact that he came out and did this now taints the investigation which is what adam schiff came out and said. So it only amplifies those calls for an independent investigation, a select committee or even a committee outside of congress to really look more deeply into this. And that is something that President Trump doesnt want. And so to the degree, if devin nunes thought this was going to help the president by refuting some of whats been out there, i think its only done the opposite. He has a legitimate concern that the Intelligence Committee is too quick to unmask people. You speak to somebody overseas being monitored and get cat up that your name should not be put in an Intelligence Report and moved around. He has a legitimate concern about that. But by running to the president ,
he looks like a partisan, a defender of the president , not an independent chairman of an important investigation. Apparently no one else has seen the actual evidence. Republicans or democrats. Either side. And adam schiff yesterday contradicted what the chairman said. He said that people were not unmasked but it was possible to tell who they were from the descriptions. So theres a lot that we dont know and that members of the Intelligence Committee dont know, but i think julie is right. The biggest point is that investigation has now been, i think, permanently clouded and does raise the question. If the senate Intelligence Committee is not able to credibly do this, then who will be able . The fbi. The fbi. The fbi, but if you go back to past investigations, these are not apples and apples, but you have the Law Enforcement investigation continue there and then the congressional investigation usually to sort of inform the American People that the criminal investigations or Law Enforcement investigations deal with were there crimes committed and what can we filter through the classification
process and inform the American People in a democracy about what happened. If those are compromised, democrats will say lets have an independent investigation. John mccain is i think were getting a little beyond select committee. Well see. John mccain is a lonely voice still on that issue. Well see how this one plays out. Next, lets make a deal. The president trying as we speak to win the votes necessary to get a Big Health Care bill through the house. But are the concessions dooming its chances over in the senate . Be right back. Just go to bed. New aveeno®. Positively radiant® overnight facial. Get the benefits of a spa facial. Overnight. Aveeno®. Naturally beautiful results® deartheres no other way to say this. Its over. Ive found a permanent escape from monotony. Together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake, our hearts racing as one. I know this is sudden,
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closed meeting trying to cut the deal to get the votes necessary to get the legislation through the house today. That would be step one. It would then have to go to the senate. Before this private meet, the president taking to twitter this morning to send a video out hoping his supporters will pick up the phone and help him get the votes. You were told that you could keep your plan and keep your doctor. You were given many, many false stories. The fact is you were given many lies. Go with our plan. Its going to be terrific. Youre going to be very, very happy. Call your local representative. Call your senator. Let them know that youre behind our plan. Its an interesting test. We have not seen the president , both the inside and outside game. Hes in the room right now trying to twist arms and get a deal. How much will he give . Members are also learning how much can we get out of him . And then theres the outside game. Can he get his supporters to
pick up the phone . To call these members and say, hey, be with the president. A lot of republicans who have come out this week as no have cited the fact im getting 400 calls no for every two calls yes. They know that their constituents do not feel good about this bill and thats why its losing support. Somebody at the white house has, obviously, told the president that its important that these members hear not just from you that they need to vote for it but also from their constituents. He did go to the hill and sort of threaten them earlier this week saying its your political hydes on the line if this thing goes down. This is his way of demonstrating that. Stranger things upside down about this is the members giving him the most trouble are the ones he theoretically has the most leverage over. Freedom caucus is from districts he was strongest. Its really the people on the other side of the caucus that should be the most 23 House Republicans in districts that Hillary Clinton carried looking at a bill that according to quinnipiac today, 17 of college whites, 18 millennials and 10
of nonwhites support. And among independents and among 50 to 64yearold age group, the group most in the crosshairs of the insurance changes, 62 opposition. Y the focus on the Freedom Caucus and their concerns is front and center but you have to wonder how far many of these more moderate members will go given the reaction to this bill. The president is trying to get it over hurdle nem ber one, them number two in the senate. A lot of people dont like this bill. They know its going to change something and rip the floor out from under them. The president s own standing in that Quinnipiac Poll. 37 approval. 56 disapprove. Among republicans, he is at 81 support among republicans. Thats good, but its down from 91 two weeks ago. So that, if you are the president , and you didnt win the popular vote and you know your coalition is to keep your base together, if you are donald trump and his Political Team you
have to look at that number and say, whoa, we need a win. Big time. More importantly, they cant afford to lose. And a lose of such monumental proportion as the key promise that swept republicans into into the mairmgity in the house starting back in the tea party, you know, fight of 2010 and then on and on and on until the white house now. Obviously there were lots of other factors but the promise to do this was front and center. The problem is that you have, as we were talking about the Freedom Caucus who were in the white house right now, then you have Ileana Rossalaten in from south florida. I saw her yesterday. Any chance you can change . No. The only regret she has is that she can only vote no once because shes so much opposed to this. And because shes hearing it from her constituents. Isnt the complication here, obviously, losing would be devastating, something they promised for so long. But this is so winning has its own problems because in
substance, this is so against the brand that he has established. A different kind of republican. Going to protect programs that protect older working age adults. Put out a budget and say well exempt medicare and social security. Focus all the cuts on Discretionary Spending and come back with a Health Care Bill that hammers the same people you say you are protecting and are protecting in your budget. How does that add up . This bill is like kind of more of an in the end, more of a ryan, house republican, small government than the bannonesque redesign of the party. Usually a first year president gets something db. Clinton, the budget, obama got the systemus done. You have a president here with low ratings and hes selling a bill thats really unpopular among everyone so those two things make it hard. If he was popular itself, he could sell it. Those two combined make this hard to happen. The Republican Party has changed a lot in ten years. This is the first chance theyve had to govern and have a
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colleagues. I remember a classic tom friedman, maureen dowd New York Times cover story about the contentious jim baker george h. W. Bush relationship. George h. W. , they quoted him as saying, if you are so smart, how come im president. So it may be something that infects once you get into the oval office. Part of the briefing on day one. Absolutely. We can laugh about it and this was a remarkable interview in a lot of ways. The thing that strikes me is this idea of im president and this enables me to say basically whatever i want to say, this lies at the heart of the Credibility Issue for mr. Trump because his view is for all of these months on the campaign trail, he would say things that were demonstrably false and wed do fact checks and hed say them again. Unlike other candidates, hed not back down from things when it was demonstrated they were false. He kept on winning primaries and then won the general election. Theres a core sense he has that
it means that people dont care if its true or not. They just want to hear me own what i think and he talked about himself as an instinctual person and thats what people like about me and he has no apology for that. Im ap instinctual person but it turns out to be right. Im amazed in a week like this that donald j. Trump, that article about truth telling. Was he going to prove to time that hes right and theyre wrong . A very strange decision. He knew he was going to be on the cover and he wanted therefore, he wanted to be in the story and say he has the record for covers, except snl lifeTime Magazine. Like us and yours, New York Times. I mean, a lot of elements of his agenda controversial right now. But the reason hes so much lower in poll opinion is mostly about personal characteristic. 60 of that Quinnipiac Poll said he was not honest. Hes like passing his former opponent in the campaign. Got to go. Thats it. Were keeping an eye on the White House Briefing up next hour. Also waiting for those conservatives to come out of that meet with the president of the United States. That might delay the briefing a bit. Hope to see you back here tomorrow. After a quick break, wolf blitzer. The pollen count, flonase allergy relief keeps your eyes and nose clear. Flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances that cause Nasal Congestion and itchy, watery eyes. For relief beyond the nose. Flonase. But shouldnt it be about firsts . D in zeros. And seconds . How about adding a third . We think theres a bajillion ways to measure success. Like making your Toddler Giggle like this. Yep thats a success can teaching kids in another country how to say pony make you a success . The correct answer is yeah. What about taking pride in everything you do . Finding the courage to do something youve never done . Or doing something no ones ever done . We sure think so. This is what we call. The new Success Story and while success isnt just about money, no matter how much you have, we think you deserve the Financial Freedom to sleep like this at night. We are tiaa, and were with you. Start today at tiaa dot org. Got a minute . New aveeno®. R you. Positively radiant® 60 second in shower facial. Works with steam to reveal. Glowing skin in just one minute. Aveeno® naturally beautiful results®