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York give Bernie Sanders the upset he needs or reward its former senator, Hillary Clinton, with a win and an even bigger delegate lead . I do question her judgment. I question a judgment which voted for the war in iraq. President obama trusted my judgment enough to ask me to be secretary of state for the united states. Theyre friends, really. Theyre friends. With us to share their reporting and their insights, the atlantics molly ball, Jonathan Martin of the New York Times, ed oe coffkeefe of the washin post and niamalika henderson. You wouldnt know it from his tone on the campaign trail. In our system theyre not even voting. The bosses are picking the delegates, and its a very bad thing. Despite all of that, you know whos going to win . Were going to win despite all of that. Hes confident there. Well get to the exact math in a few minutes. But remember, trump is well ahead in the delegate race and is the only candidate with any chance of clinching the republican nomination before the cleveland convention. But he spent the past week complaining because he keeps outhustled by ted cruz in states that hold caucuses and conventions. Just yesterday, for example, cruz added 14 more delegates from the wyoming state convention. I want to ask each and every one of you if you dont want to see donald trump as the nominee, if you dont want to hand the general election to Hillary Clinton, which is what a trump nomination does, then i ask you to please support the men and women on this stage. Well organized there. Now, trump is saying hes being outhustled are being outvoted but are now taking the second and third steps. In state after state, cruz loyalists are taking slots that are bound to trump or maybe balanced at the convention but then are free agents. The system is rigged. Its a bad system. Its a dirty system. And theyve got to do something about it. The Republican National committee, theyd better get going because ill tell you what, youre going to have a rough july at that convention. Lets begin there. A rough july. Back to the language of if i dont win, watch out. Well, look. It comes off as a little bit of a threat, but hes also just stating the facts. Does anybody doubt that this is going to be a rough convention for the Republican Party . Given the unlikeliness of any candidate wrapping up the nomination before the convention, its going to be chaos. And he is stating the facts there. And i dont see how you go into that convention without a lot of really riledup people on both sides or how you come out of it no matter how it results. Youre going to come out of it with a lot of disgruntled, unhappy people. So yeah, it is going to be a rough july. I think hes trying to pressure the delegates by doing what hes doing here. Look, is he frustrated about the actual process . Of course he is. He wants to win and hes, you know, winning states conventionally and then hes seeing delegates that have to vote for him, turn up to actually be cruz supporters or Double Agents he called him in his op ed piece in the journal. I think hes trying to pressure those delegates who are going to be unbound on the first ballot. Over 100 delegates. Unbound free agents on the first ballot. What hes essentially saying to them is im going to be the leader in terms of delegates won and votes won. You cant not give me this nomination. And if you do that, this entire deal is rigged and not on the level hes laying that predicate right now. And if you talk to campaign folks, Trump Campaign folks, they talk about the number 1100. You need 1,237 to get the nomination. They seem to think theyll get to at least 1,100. So what hes after is the 137 more votes he needs essentially, and he hopes that by using the next few months to pressure them, hoping that his supporters reach out to those people, that at the convention, theyll just go oh, what the heck. Lets just end the chaos now. Its almost the argument is that its safer to give it to trump and not have this fight. And you mentioned the wall street journal piece. Let me bring you a little bit more from that. Its grievance politics right now. He said the systems rigged. He said in addition to calling them Double Agents, my Campaign Strategy is to win with the voters. Cruzs Campaign Strategy is to win despite them. Hes saying cruz is going to these conventions and caucuses when you dont have a broad primary, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people voting. But in defense of senator cruz, you can criticize the system all you want. The system is open to criticism, but these rules have been in place for a very long time. Yeah, which Reince Priebus in a tweet reminded that recently saying that the rules have been in place. This is grievance politics. And this has worked for donald trump. This idea of donald trump versus everybody has worked. It doesnt necessarily grow his base. I mean, but it very much gins those folks up. It reminds them of why they like trump, why they dont like the establishment of republican part of this party. So i think it works in that way. I mean, hes been very good. I think painting himself as the victim and as sort of a message candidate who can right the wrongs that these folks, these sort of downscale white voters have been grappling with. And hes right when he says the bosses are picking the delegates. In at least three states thats what happenedindiana last week. Closeddoor meetings before the state even votes. In florida they literally used a smokefilled room at a Cigar Factory to pick the delegates from miamidade county. It was closed to Trump Supporters and to the press. And in georgia while they were open events, Party Leaders were checking voters who showed up to say whos been the longest serving Party Activist . Whos most deserving of this . Not who supports trump or cruz . What is so ironic here, john, is that eds right, in some of these states it actually is party bosses. In a lot of these states, the actual delegates running and winning are the furthest thing from the party establishment. Theyre hardcore conservative grassroots activists who are despised by the establishment, and theyre the ones who are actually supporting ted cruz. So this is a more complicated story tan just establishment versus nonestablishment. Its multilayered because ted cruzs supporters are an ideologically driven band of activists who are the very reason that the establishment prefers primaries to conventions in the first place. And so but given the Democratic Partys demographic advantage from the last two elections, when youre going forget the candidates for a minute. When you go into an election, you look at the obama coalitions twice. The democrats have an advantage. So whoever the republican nominee is is going to have to unify this party. This is the part of the campaign where this usually starts to happen. Instead youve got cruz in one camp, trump in another. Well get to kasich in a moment. Im not sure where he is at the moment. As donald trump tries to play underdog to jonathans point, the animosity with cruz is growing to the point that trump likes to link cruz with somebody else. So im selffunding, all of this is mine. When i fly in, its on my dime, right . Its on my dime. And what does that mean . That means im not controlled by the special interests, by the lobbyists, and they control they control crooked hillary, and they control lying ted cruz, right . Now, cruz says the establishment dislikes him as much if not more than donald trump, and theres certainly some truth to that. But to the point if donald trump is going to be the nominee, when does he get about the diplomacy of bringing in the cruz voters and bringing in the kasich voters and bringing in people who are just a little skeptical about him . I dont know, october . Thats the point of all of this. Is you do have these republicans debates whether they prefer the frying pan or the fire. Is trump better than cruz . Is it better to have everybody come around before the convention, or is it better to have an open convention where you might be able to change the outcome . In a lot of ways it doesnt matter. The Republican Party is already broken. And it is very hard to envision any way that all of these people come together. The Trump Supporters, a lot of whom are outside the normal channels of the party and havent participated in the process before, do they come around to lyin ted cruz . The cruz supporters, do they come around to support trump after everything thats happened . And all those people who have been left out because they dont like either . This party is broken already, and this idea that you can just, you know, the first day of august say all right, everybody, thats water under the bridge, hard to imagine. Well, im told thats one of the reasons that speaker ryan wanted to come out and make Crystal Clear how some people are still suspicious and weigh in, please, but that ryan wanted to come out this week and say no, no, im not interested in being a white knight at the convention. I will not accept it. If you draft me, do not put my name in the nomination. In fact, he says the delegates should write a rule. Im told that as they looked at this and there were people around ryan who were starting to get ready to have a Shadow Campaign Convention Operation in case this came up where he said look, even if they do that, trump is going to run around the country saying they stole it from me and its going to be impossible for anybody other he thinks ryans people think anybody other than trump, really, to pull the party nominally together. But certainly a new candidate couldnt do it. Hes one of the most riskaverse republicans there is. So he wasnt going to jump into this if there was somebody going to be running around calling him a bad guy. So it makes total sense that he once again pulled himself out. And sort of the ryan chatter, more evidence of the vast disconnect between a corridor in the grass roots part of the Republican Party. Paul ryan, as this kind of white knight savior, its bhaskalasic dream of the d. C. Establishment. They tried that before. 17 candidates. They had a variety, right, of establishment candidates. And guess what . None of them pulled through. Theyre dealing now with two antiestablishment candidates in many ways, and donald trump certainly and even in ted cruz. And there was a time, remember, when we said this was the deepest, most talented republican field in memory. Right. Remember those . Very good at fundraising. They were very but ryan im told this is kind of like Humpty Dumpty and that the partys going to take its fall. Unless you want to be the guy that has to live that for the next six months as the nominee when, of course, the establishment would like it, but the grassroots folks would and the trump folks certainly would when he can be still engaged from his perch as speaker of the house so that if and when the party does lose in november, he can then stand up and say, look, ive been trying to carry the banner for this more optimistic brand of conservatives and we have to try to revive that sort of jack kempism that you mentioned earlier, john. And i think thats the role he wants to play. Is that realistic, though, given where the actual voters stand on issues like immigration, like trade, like Foreign Policy . Well see. Well, and ryans frustration is that he does want to still have a role. He doesnt want to just sit on the sidelines. He is the speaker of the house. He does see his vision for the party being dramatically crumpled up and thrown away and trampled, and he does want to have a voice, but every time he comes out to talk about these quaint concepts like stability in politics, all anybody wants to know is if hes running. Hes trying to put that to bed so he can still play a role and still have a voice in this process. I doubt that this speech he gave this week is going to quiet all that chatter and make everyone only listen to the things hes trying to say. Remember, hell be in cleveland as the chairman of the convention holding the gavel and very well could find a way to avoid talk of him becoming the nominee. Fun job to hold that gavel, huh . Fun, fun, fun. He was joking the other day, he was thinking he might want to be in switzerland. Everybody sit tight. Up next, the path to 1237 and why a new york route is absolutely necessity for donald trump. First, though, politicians say the darnedest things. 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Its all up here in the midatlantic region and in the east. If trump has a strong april, wins them all up here, he can get three quarters of the way to victory. 1237 is the magic number. Cruz would still be back before the halfway mark. That is why this stretch of the calendar, starting tuesday and through the end of the month, is critical to donald trump. If he has a big month, heres what he envisions. He envisions winning most, indiana i give to cruz here. Thats a battleground well see. Trump envisions winning most, gets him up to 1089. Then if he can have a big win out in california, cruz comes in second, kasich, third. Under this scenario being generous in the east and midatlantic, you have trump at 1209. 1209. You need 1237. Can he pick up a few more here to get to the magic number . Sure. Could he somehow win indiana and get closer to the magic number . Sure. But all of this math at the end is dependent on donald trump winning big in new york and then in the midatlantic and in the east in april. And Jonathan Martin, that is the defining question is that for all this complaining about the rules of late, he has a chance. Hes the only one who still has a chance, but he needs to perform starting tuesday big time. He sure does. And i think its possible that hes going to get nearly every delegate in new york on tuesday. Ive been surprised that cruzs campaign has not been more aggressive in trying to stop trump from getting 50 in new york and some of these states. Its very arcane. Basically how it works is if you dont crack 50 in a district in new york, you get two of the three delegates. If you do crack, you get all three, with everything on the line that he just mentioned, every delegate now counts. I am surprised that cruz hasnt gone harder in upstate new york to really keep trump below 50. Its striking. You know, and your scenario there you can see trump getting to 1200, thats 37 delegates away. Pennsylvania alone could deliver him the remaining unbound delegates on the first ballot. Thats part of the strategy. Pennsylvania gives 17 delegates to the winner. But then theres 54 delegates who are unbound. But the trump strategy is if we get 50 plus percent there, we sit down with those delegates and say come on, now. And many of them have said they will vote the will of their Congressional District on the first ballot. You took the math to 1209 . Yeah. I can get you anywhere from 1130 to about 1220. Thats 28 short of 1237. Puerto rico has 23 delegates. Rubios out of the race. They have said we will vote for whichever of the three remaining guys fundamentally explicitly supports statehood. Not the right of selfdetermination but statehood. All trump would need to do is say id support puerto rican statehood, get five more from American Samoa or Virgin Islands and hes the nominee. Guam, American Samoa all unbound. They could pick the republican nominee. But to this point that, you know, theres been all this focus on hes getting beat at these state conventions. Hes getting beat people are hustling, a lot of people will vote for trump on the first ballot or cruz people. If theres a second or third ballot, theyre gone. A lot of focus on trump losing. But hes still the only one who has a chance here and if he has a big night tuesday and carries on through april, does the conversation change . No, because what is happening here is a game of inches. The reason were talking about these little bitty in some cases just countylevel conventions and meetings and peeling off little delegates here and there is that there arent a lot of big pots of delegates left. Even california has only about a dozen statewide delegates. And the rest are all by Congressional District. New york has a big pot of delegates. Indiana has a big pot of delegates. Other than that, these are all just, you know, a delegate here, a delegate there and thats why its so crucial because as ed said, you know, he could find himself only a couple delegates short. One thing that you dont account for in that analysis is the possibility that he continues to bleed delegates on the back end. Right. By cruz picking them off at these little meetings, and that chips away at his advantage, gets him further and further away from the goal, increases the chances of that contested convention. And thats certainly obviously cruzs strategy and his organization being its own argument to these delegates and to the party that look at what hes able to do in these different county conventions and with organization and with data. And they also think on the back end, theyll do well relatively well in california and i guess north and south dakota, and that will be its own Closing Argument as well, an opening argument to the folks of that convention. So, you know, theyve got a strategy. Its all about never trump, stop trump, and so far theyre doing pretty good. But all these state conventions where cruz is doing well could be really important on a second or third ballot. But the math you just laid out could be devastating to cruzs chances if cruz does not start winning more. By the way, winning everything. He cant just win indiana. Hes got to win every cd in indiana. Its really crucial that cruz steps up his game here in the next couple of months. Otherwise all these folks arent going to matter what their actual preferences on ballot two or ballot three. It gives a lot more credence to trumps argument that he is whining about these convention rules. Can you criticize the process all you want. But it gives a lot of credence to his argument that when you do have big statewide primaries, is he winning the bulk of those. And if he runs it up in april, one of the interesting questions if you get to a contested convention, in the primaries this hasnt mattered much. In the convention its Party Activists. The electability argument will matter more. Those are people who are involved in politics. They want to win in november. One of the things you see trump starting to do is trying to address his general election liabilities. This seems like an eternity ago. Cnn had a series of town halls with the candidates and their families. Listen to ivanka trump. Especially in a general election environment, donald trump standing among women voters is p pitiful, horrible. His daughter said thats not fair. I think the facts speak for themselves. I have witnessed these incredible female role models that hes employed in the highest executive positions at the Trump Organization. For me, the way he raised me, the way he raised tiffany, its a testament to the fact that he believes in inspiring women, empowering women. She just had a baby, and shes out there. She did, yeah. She is potentially maybe his best surrogate . Shes a very good advocate for her father, although, i mean, i guess the Trump Organization didnt give her her full maternity leave. Touche. But, you know, i think the argument that youre making about electability is john kasichs argument, and he believes that is going to be in the back of these delegates mind and thats why theyll turn to him. There are logistical reasons that that may not be possible, but i think also jonathans point about these delegates being Party Activists, thats why its been so crucial for cruz to get his body in those seats because otherwise they would be Party Regulars who would probably be more sympathetic to kasich and to his eligibility argument. But instead there are going to be these grassroots people who care more about ideological conservatism and in the cruz argument for his principles than they do about a candidate who does well in headtohead polling. In that argument that conservatives have always had which is if we nominate a bold conservative, then we will win as opposed to, you know, nominating sort of a moderate in the mold. And this is exactly how Barry Goldwater got the nomination in 1964 was by putting those bodies in those seats. And trump has no good answer to those people. Cruz has been one of us, hes one of us, hes antiabortion, progun rights, we dont know where trump would be on that next wednesday because this week he was this way, the week before he was another way. That will be a very difficult thing for him. Back to what Reince Priebus said, he understands the drama. The drama will continue. But to the democrats next, a debate that showed the contempt the candidates have for each other and a primary likely to determine whether they ever debate again. But first, heres our quiz question for the week. Should superdelegates be eliminated . Yes or no . Vote now on cnn. Com vote. 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I stood up against the behaviors of the banks when i was a senator. I called them out on their mortgage behavior. Oh, my goodness. They must have been really crushed by this. And was that before or after you received huge sums of money by giving speaking engagements . If you didnt watch closely, you should go and find it and watch again because the glares at times were as disdainful as the words. Accurate i have stood on the debate stage with senator sanders eight prior times. Secretary, senator, please. If we can raise it to 15 in new york or los angeles or seattle, lets do it if youre both screaming at each other, the viewers wont be able to hear either of you. I have said from the very beginning that i supported the fight for 15. I dont know how youre there for the fight for 15 when you say you wanted 12 an Hour National minimum wage. A for effort for wolf blitzer there. Thats right. Look, they dont like each other. Yes. They are under each others skins. And theyre at this moment where she thinks why havent you gone away . And he thinks, i have a slight chance still. Yeah, and their supporters are as locked in to not liking each other as these two candidates are. And that was what was so striking. I was sort of behind the debate hall and listening to it, and the deafening sort of cheers on both sides, that raucous hallway, i think, were at a situation where youve got this bernie or bust movement within the Bernie Sanders supporters and clinton supporters saying why is this guy still sticking around . I mean, if you look back to july 2008, it was the same in some ways with hillary supporters, i think about 30 in july of 2008 said no way theyd vote for obama, and its about the same right now. And of course, it all worked out in the end. But there are vast differences between these two candidates. I mean, in terms of policy in a way that wasnt that way in 2008. So bridging this divide is going to take some work. You make a key point, but in the 2008 race, the insurgent, or the new guy, won. Mmhmm. And she was the career democrat who said, okay, i have no choice here, and wanted to have a future. So she came in and she did the right thing. Im not criticizing her at all in terms of how she managed it. We talk about this republican fracturing, do we have a fracturing in the Democratic Party, and do we have any evidence to know that if the track continues as its going, and Hillary Clinton wins, probably needing superdelegates to get across the finish line, and well do in the math in a minute, does sanders and his voters say, okay, were on board . I think some of sanderss supporters clearly are indicating that they arent going to be with hillary. And theres really nothing she can do about that. I do think there is a fracture in the Democratic Party that has longterm consequences. I dont think youre looking at an immediate party split like the republicans are pretty much already guaranteed to have. Bernie sanders himself has said repeatedly and unequivocally that he would not encourage any kind of independent effort or anything that would potentially take votes away the democratic nominee. As nia said, you know, things looked just this bad in 2008 between the two candidates, and you had a Hillary Movement that was campaigning, that they would never support barack obama. Look it up if you want to know what it stands for. But, you know, there is a lot of frustration on both sides. Like the slogan of mtvs the real world, when candidates stop being polite and start getting real, this is always how they felt about each other. They were never really friends. But now the sort of mask has fallen and they can showcase the way they feel about each other, he thinks shes an establishment hack and she doesnt think hes serious. Its hard out there for a senatorleft democrat these days, the party has moved away from clinton and shes trying to accommodate that. And her last names clinton. Last names clinton, so its ungamely in doing so, and it is hard to pull off now, and its going to be fascinating if he she is president to see how she actually governs given the promises of the campaign and the reality of divided government, and her actual beliefs, i think, on some of these issues. But let me just say, though, in terms of the fall, i think youll see the bernie supporters come to her not because they love her but because theyre voting against somebody. Theyre voting to stop donald trump or ted cruz. I think the difference could be, though, that they pull the lever for Hillary Clinton, but theyre not giving her 40 hours a week in volunteer time. Theyre not making phone calls, knocking on doors like they would have for bernie. I think this puts more pressure on her should she be the nominee when it comes to a running mate, finding someone who is perhaps a little more left of center than she is and someone who is perhaps youthful because you have to capture that Youth Support that bernie has. And i think mollys right. I think this begins something that will continue to fester in the Democratic Party over the next few years. She will have to prove it if shes elected president through her policy. But you think youll see a down ballot. There was a skirmish this past week about the policies of Julian Castro as hud secretary, he was starting to cause trouble for people who were under water on their mortgages. There was a skirmish among hispanics whether he was properly representative of the community. Those kind of battles are going to happen in the midst of elections in two years and next year. Bernie sanders is starting to do well with latino voters in new york and certainly in california. In california. Even with Hillary Clinton. Were having this conversation in the context that she keeps her mathematical lead. Sanders and his supporters say wait a minute, this isnt over yet. One of the interesting calculations he took in the middle was decided to go to the vatican for this conference. I want you to listen to Bernie Sanders. Everyone said whoa, why did you go to the vatican before this primary . Bernie sanders said it was critical. Bernie Bernie Bernie bernie my view on womens rights, on gay rights, on contraception is different than the churchs, but i think in this world, what we have to do is work with people when we can work with them. And his leadership in terms of the need to create a moral economy, the need to make sure that we transform our Energy System so as to prevent Climate Change from wreaking havoc on this planet has been extraordinary. Senator sanders talking about a brief talk he had with pope francis at the vatican. The pope said im not playing politics. If you think i am, im just being polite. This man had a few minutes with me. If you think im playing politics, you need a psychiatrist. Smart move or dangerous move, risky move for Bernie Sanders . I think it is very in keeping with the brand that Bernie Sanders has that his supporters like so much. The brand of someone who is sort of pure and someone who cares about these issues of morality much more than they care about sort of the political horse race and the ups and downs. And so yeah, he could have held another big rally in new york city and probably gotten a lot of people there who were already supporting him, but in terms of him expanding his support, thats something he hasnt really found ways to do. And this potentially reminds some people who might have been soft Bernie Sanders supporters why they like him because of that sort of purity, that ideological that he has. I think it sort of helps him. I dont think it helps him with progressives because of all of those because the pope is not a progressive on so many issues. But in terms of older voters, certainly catholic voters, latino voters, i think this meeting with the pope might help him. Look Anyone Running in new york knows you have to visit the three i, yl italy, israel, ireland. You got the three is into a cigarfilled room. Can we show this real quick . Bernie sanders visiting the Puppet Museum in new york . Do we have this puppet . There we go. Look at that. He seems amused. If you can see his wife in the background, shes even more amused at the puppet or muppet. Thats pretty good work. Up next, another math lesson. Why is new york so important in the immediate delegate count and theres a springboard just like the republican race for the rest of april. 247 democratic delegates at stake in new york on tuesday. So its a big prize, a hubge prize in the delegate path. Bernie sanders has been saying ive won 7 of the 8 last. Im winning. Hillary clinton wants to put his momentum to an end and also change the delegate math. I guess the big question for Bernie Sanders who theyds this upset is can he and theres no way he can be the democratic nominee unless he picks her demographic lock. In states that have big africanamerican and latino populations shes consistently outperformed him and by big margins. Can he change that . Well see. New york is a good test case. You look at the polls, hes either down 17, 12. I mean, his people, you talk to them, they think hes a strong closer. And some of that momentum you saw with that big rally of 24,000 27,000 people, you know, and hes doing the right things. I mean, hes been campaigning with spike lee and rosario dawson, ads featuring erica garner, the daughter of eric garner. So well see. Criticizing the bill clinton crime bill. Criticizing bill clinton welfare reform. Hillary clinton saying but you voted for that crime bill. We all have maybe some things to apologize for or say we regret and also stressing his progun issues. Yeah. I think he has a better shot of winning hispanics in california than he does in new york. Theres a lot of nuance here. You know, the interests, the priorities and the way you campaign for west coast hispanic voters versus new york hispanic voters is very different. And a lot of the guys hes hired and brought into his campaign did their initial spate work back in california and in nevada. Its too late, though, isnt it . It would conceivably too late but hed be able to make the argument and say i won hispanic support in l. A. And the inland empire, but i wouldnt be surprised if he does a little better there than he has out east, at least with that group. Is it fair to say that april is just as important to the republican race than the democratic race . You have connecticut, you have rhode island. So the race is staying in one region of the country essentially for the month. And youd have to say with the exception of maybe rhode island, advantage Hillary Clinton, right . Yes, and lets be honest here. Yes, it is significant, but the democratic race is not as up in the air as the republican race is. It is very, very difficult, almost impossible, for Bernie Sanders to catch up to Hillary Clinton, particularly without superdelegates. He needs those superdelegates to flip if hes going to catch her. So to pretend that this is decisive when probably most of the decisive contests are actually in the rearview mirror. Totally. This is not a point in the race where the argument matters. This is not a point in the race where moral victories and closing the gap matter. What matters is can you get more delegates than she does . And if she wins new york, she gets more delegates than he does, she pads her lead. Hillary clinton is in a safe zone right now as long as she can keep the trajectory as it is, jonathan. Why, then, does the big dog, as they call him, bill clinton, continue to say things that occasionally make your eyes roll . Listen here talking about Bernie Sanders, his supporters and what they think about wall street. You know, one of the few things i really havent enjoyed about this primary, i think its fine that all these Young Students have been so enthusiastic for her opponent and sound so good, just shoot every third person on wall street and everything will be fine. But the truth is, there are 25,000 i mean 50,000 fewer people there today. The dodd frank act is working. I think its fine some people are for her opponent. Husbandly pride, and he actually believes this, though. He is a centerleft democrat, and he believes that bernie and his people are pie in the sky, you know, ideologues, and he doesnt like it one bit. Look, molly is right. Theres not much drama left in the democratic primary. God love us, were going to try to keep the drama going and well have the huge debate showdowns but the fact is, hillary has largely won this race because of her success in large, diverse states that bernie has not been able to penetrate. And the democratic primary is proportional. Bernie doesnt just have to win new york or come close. He would have to win new york overwhelmingly. Then go and do it again in pennsylvania. And the idea that bernies going to do that seems to be very much of a stretch. Very much of a stretch. But again, his supporters, hes still telling his supporters its possible. As long as you tell your supporters its possible he has to do that, otherwise they wont show up to vote on tuesday. Well, the share of the vote he continues to get shows that hillary is not walk ago way with this thing, and there is an entrenched resistance to her. There is a stubborn loyalty to the things that hes advocating. Im not weve got to stop there for time, but im not as kwipgsed that its over, over, underlined, period, as some of you are. Our reporters share from their notebooks including a highprofile president ial Campaign Role for the Supreme Court. Should superdelegates be eliminated . Donna brazile must be sleeping in. 84 of you said yes. cafeteria noise flourish spray noise flourish spray noises school bell sigh flourish spray noise share the joy of real cream. Share the joy of real cream. flourish spray noise . With reddiwip. The possibility of a flare was almost always on my mind. Thinking about what to avoid, where to go. And how to deal with my uc. To me, that was normal. Until i talked to my doctor. She told me that humira helps people like me get uc under control and keep it under control when certain medications havent worked well enough. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. 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The candidates are all going to have a presence there. John kasich actually will be there in person. Cruz and trump will have some people there. And Reince Priebus, the chairman of the rnc, has been lobbying against making any recommendations by the rules committee. In a normal president ial year, they would make a recommendation to the convention to say heres the rules that we think should govern the convention. This year given how much heat there is on the process, reince is telling them lay off. No matter what happens, theyre going to get blamed. And if they dont do it in the short term, its going to make it much more interesting when they get to cleveland. Jonathan . Theyre looking past new york to maryland and pennsylvania the following week. They believe that those are the two most promising states on a tuesday thats going to be full of sort of Midatlantic States but they see opportunities to get delegates. And maryland and pennsylvania. But for ted cruzs campaign, april cant end soon enough. They want to get to may and especially indiana and nebraska. Indiana, interesting, i saw some polling for a senate race done out there that shows a pretty close race between cruz and trump. Ed . A reminder for a big case before the Supreme Court tomorrow that challenges the constitutionality of president obamas decision to try to protect about 4 Million People who are the parents of citizens or legal residents in this country. It was an executive action thats been put on hold by the fifth Circuit Court of appeals. So much interest in this. There are going to be protests across washington. The big Spanish Language tv networks are going with walltowall coverage. Even though they cant cover the case live. If the eightmember court rules in favor, the program can be implemented. If its a tie or they rule against it, the program is blocked from being implemented before the president takes off or before he leaves office. But its a reminder that the next person that takes office still has to deal with immigration in a big way. And the candidates will have to deal with it between now and november. Nia . President obama headed to saudi arabia. Hell meet with king salomon on wednesday. Topics will obviously include isis, regional stability, oil prices. And this comes against the backdrop of the 9 11 bill which has been much discussed on capitol hill. This bill would open up saudi arabia and other Foreign Countries to lawsuits from victims of terrorism. Saudi arabia officials have come out and essentially pressed on lawmakers to say that they would pull billions of dollars, the New York Times reported it and we reported it, too, billions of dollars in assets if this bill passed. It actually passed the senate in 2014. It got blocked by the house reintroduced in 2014. Very bipartisan bill. Youve got the two new york senators backing it and the Obama Administration saying it would be catastrophic economically if this passed. It will be interesting to see if this works its way into the president ial contest with the focus on new york next week and these candidates taking very odd in some ways positions on Foreign Policy over these last weeks. Interesting time for that trip ill close with a bit more on what molly noted. This weeks Republican National Committee Meeting and the difficult job for the new trump strategist, paul manafort. Hes planning to attend the gala to represent Trumps Convention and to discuss a potential Fall Campaign with those activists from key battleground states. Now, manafort is no stranger. His work dates back to 1976 and he was a close friend and ally of lee atwater back in the george h. W. Bush administration. But that was a long time ago. Manafort has little history with the current leadership group. As he tries to make new friends, it wont be forgotten that his candidate, mr. Trump, has spent the last weekplus calling the Committee Members dirty trickster, running a rigged system. That will be fun. Thats it for inside politics. Thanks for sharing your sunday. Well see you soon including tuesday nights primary coverage. Up next, state of the union. Democratic dogfight. She didnt answer the question. I did. No, you didnt. Yes, i did. They did answer the well, dont put words into my mouth. Who landed the toughest punches at the brawl in brooklyn . Plus, is the pope feeling the bern . Bernie sanders ditches the campaign trail for the vatican. Hes just back from rome, a