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Economic and trade adviser, Peter Navarro, the administrati administrations socalled super hawk on china. Also bars, restaurants, hair so lons, remember them . In sweden they never closed. Its Covid Infection rates are not as bad as you might imagine. Why . Well find out from the countrys chief ep deep epidemiologist. And then how do you protest in the age of covid. We have images and answers. First heres my take. For all of us who have watched with mounting terror as President Trump offers the public a seize of his half baked ideas and hufrnls hunches on h handle and treat covid19, the answer is clear. Follow the signs. Follow the signs. Science, science, science. Well follow the doctors and scientists. But what does that mean . After all it was dr. Anthony fauci who initially down played the dangers of the coronavirus. On january 26th he said its a very, very low risk to the United States. It isnt something the American Public needs to worry about or be frightened about. A few days later, alex azar said this. The risk of infection for americans remains low. To be fair, he was merely reflecting the views of the Governments Public Health officials. At the same time, trump adviser Peter Navarro, a nonscientist looking at the same data coming out of china, warned in a january 29th memo of the risk of the coronavirus evolving into a fullblown pandemic and pearling the lives of millions of americans and urged aggressive action. It looks like the layman was right and the scientists were wrong. But putting it that way is too simplistic. The reality is that science does not yield one simple answer. Especially not with a new phenomenon like the coronavirus. Dr. Fauci came to a reasonable conclusion given the initial evidence as that evidence changed he changed his mind. The we tend to think of science as providing one definitive answer to a question. But that isnt really how it works. Science is above all a method of inquiry. The posing of questions and the rigorous testing of these hypotheses against data. With new and better data, we should arrive at new and better conclusions. Now, theres certain fields of study, climate change, for instance, where scientists have researched the topic for decades, collected mountains of data, published thousands of Peer Reviewed studies and arrived at conconsensus, covid is different. Its a phenomenal that is barely four months old with little definitive research. In an excellent piece about the pandemic posted last week, bill gates had a whole section of a number of key things we still dont understand. And these are central to fashioning the right response. One example, why do young people tend to do so much better with the disease . The answer after all would help us to decide how soon and under what conditions to reopen schools. Other questions, which activities make infections more likely . Does weather affect the viruss spread . Keep in mind we do not have accurate numbers for the viruss rate of infection, spread or death. As we go through the process of locking down and now opening up, scientists around the world are gathering data at a furious pace. We should welcome this and use it to refine even reverse views about the pandemic. We should welcome those who have different approaches. T. J. Rogers, the founder of Cyprus Semiconductors concluded the speed with which cities locked down had little appreciable effect on lowering the death rate from covid19. Its a fairly crude model but still worth looking at. It suggests, for example, that high population density is eight times more likely to correlate with a high death rate than a late lockdown is. This might explain why densely populated cities like new york with crowded pup trablic Transportation Networks have been hit hard and why states like florida, despite waiting longer to lock down has had relatively few deaths. While it always makes sense to be cautious and plan for the worst there are real costs to the precautionary principle. By canceling nonemergency medical procedures in anticipation of covid19 patients, hospitals denied care to many sick people who got much worse as a result, even though it many facilities had the capacity to care for both. Balancing this is not just about health. If we lowered the speed limit everywhere to 35 miles per hour, we would surely save lives, yet we try to strike a balance between costs and benefits. Donald trumps willful ignorance makes us all want to hand the country over to dr. Fauci. But that is the wrong response. We need leaders who take responsibility and make choices, informed deeply by science, but also by economics, politics, ethics and other disciplines. Just as war is too important to be left to the generals, pandemics are too important to be left just to the scientists. For more go to cnn. Com fareed and read my Washington Post column this week. Lets get started. I just told you about Peter Navarros impressions on the coronavirus could deliver to the United States. Hes the director of trade and Manufacturing Policy and he joins me from the north lawn of the white house. Peter, welcome. Good morning, fareed, how are you . Very well. Let me begin by agreeing with you. You say that china lied about the virus. And i think theres evidence, clearly, that initially there was a coverup, whether at a local level or a National Level is unclear, but certainly the wuhan and hubei officials misled people. By january 30th heres what we know. We know that china had, by its actions, demonstrated they thought this was incredibly serious. They had locked down the entire city of wuhan, 11 million people. The w. H. O. Had declared a Global Health emergency, there were confirmed u. S. Cases of covid, and most importantly you had written a memo to the president , to the Coronavirus Task force outlining why you thought this was a pandemic. I want viewers to see and i want to quote from that memo because it seems to be very relevant. You said seasonal flu has an r thought of 1. 0. In contrast, china is reporting a possible coronavirus r naught between 3 and 5. In other words, china is reporting this is much more serious than the seasonal flu. The risk of a worst case pandemic scenario should not be overlooked in light of the information provided by the Chinese Government that is specific to the coronavirus. So it seems to me the best r refutation of your thesis is your own memo which says on the basis of what the chinese were telling the world you concluded there was a real risk of a Global Pandemic as did the w. H. O. But the president took six weeks to act, isnt that the problem . Youre playing fast and loose with the timeline. Lets go through the timeline. Patient zero in wuhan was likely infected about midnovember. As early as december chinese officials were well aware of the possibility of a pandemic. At that point, over the next six weeks, they started basically doing the biggest coverup in world history. They bleached the wuhan market so we couldnt figure out what was going on there. They cleansed the records of the laboratories that were there. They made scientists from those laboratories disappear. And the problem, fareed, is simple. If china had been open and transparent at the beginning, we could have contained that virus right in wuhan. Because of that sixweek period that elapsed, hundreds of thousands of chinese citizens got on planes, went to milan, new york, all around the world, seeded the world with what became a pandemic. When i wrote that memo on january 28th, the president had already decided at that point to put travel restrictions on china, and basically heres the thing, a key date in this is january 15th. Thats when the chinese came here, fareed, shook our hands, broke bread with us and signed a trade deal and nobody at that point had been told by the Chinese Government that there was human to human transmission and the possibility of a pandemic. Shortly after that we found out a lot of things and thats when president donald j. Trump, hhs and this white house began to operate at trump speed and weve been moving ever since at that speed. I think its unfair not to point out the culpability of the Chinese Communist party in turning what would have been a contained thing into a pandemic. I say one more thing about this, fareed, you called me a layperson at the bexwginning whh is fine. I did write a book and i predictsed the Chinese Party would create a viral pandemic that would kill millions of people worldwide. It is now beyond my wildest nightmare what china inflicted upon this world. Just to be clear, peter, i just meant you were a layperson in comparison to a scientist. Both of us have ph. D. S in political science. I didnt take it as criticism. My kids tell me im not a real doctor, i take that point. Let me ask you, you said in an interview with fox they started it, they spawned the virus. You said it was likely from a bioweapons lab. The scientists i talk to all say its highly unlikely this came out of a lab, and it is certainly not a bioweapons program. Most likely, the Scientific Consensus is this came from a wet market in wuhan. Do you have evidence that suggests the chinese intentionally the words you used, they started it, they spawned the virus. Do you have evidence that the chinese intentionally let loose this virus in the world . You and i must be talking to different scientists and experts on this what do we know . If you take an akams razor approach, the most simplest explanation is the most likely, we know ground zero in this pandemic is where a p4 biological weapons lab resides. We know that. We know the bat virus, no bats within 800 miles of that wet market that have that virus. Sure, they had bats, but not that kind of bat. That bat was imported by the famous china bat lady into the lab. I think we should let the question of whether it came from the lab or whether it came from the wet market ride for a little bit and simply stay with the fact that china hid the virus from the world. Thats number one. Number two, while they were hiding the virus from the world, they went from a net exporter of personal protective equipment to a huge net importer, basically vacuuming up all the world that killed people because Public Health officials at the front lines from milan to new york didnt have that. Even as we speak, they are now profiteering from that. This is we can hold accountable. This morning american citizens wont go to church because of the Chinese Communist party. This afternoon theres no bir baseball. Cruise ships are sitting out in the sea like flying dutchmen and we have these flying machines on the ground gathering dust because china hid this virus from the world. It could have been contained. Instead it turned into a pandemic. Its important that the question be asked should china be held accountable and there would be a lot of other people asking that question, including yourself, to search for a good answer to that. Were going to take a break. Well come right back with Peter Navarro and talk about china and more when were back. Yes yes. Yes. Yeah sure. Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah no problem. Yes yes, yes a thousand times yes disover. Accepted at 99 of places in the u. S. Yes, overnight they becameyes our offices, schools and playgrounds. All those places out there, are now in here. Thats why were still offering fast, free two day shipping on thousands of items. Even the big stuff. And doing everything it takes to ensure your safety. 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Peter, in that interview with neil covuto on the 25th of april, you said when asked when covuto asked you how to you explain the president s many, many statements praising the chinese, its not its not one, two, three, its tweet after tweet saying theyve been transparent, praising e ining x jinping, thanking the chinese for their cooperation. You said, well, theres a difference between public pronouncements and what you actually know. Are you implying that the president s tweets are not truthful . Fareed, look, president donald j. Trump has made it a practice of getting along with world leaders, including xi jinping, putin, merkel, all the leaders in the world. Its useful when push comes to shove for the president to pick that phone up and talk directly to the leaders. Thats all im saying. I can also tell you that theres no one who understands the china problem better and longer than donald j. Trump. He precedes me in terms of my research dating back to the early 2000s in understanding the problems with china. So, please, lets not go there. But one of the things i would love to talk about, because im not into the gloom and doom stuff, is something that happened wednesday, fareed, which i think is a historical event. I was in cocomo with the Vice President visiting a plant. There was a combined venture with General Motors and ventec and i saw the future. I saw the president have a pathway to rebuilding this economy, which now has manufactured unemployment but which will have a manufacturing renaissance. Heres what happened. The short story is 17 days it took for gm and ventec to stand up a factory and an additional three days for u. P. S. And fema to get those ventilators into hospitals in gary and chicago. Heres the bigger story, what gm did was they went to ventecs facility, 3d imaged that, they 3d imaged all 700 components of ventecs supply chain and they replicated that plant, they went across their whole supply chain, repurposed that supply chain to make those 700 components. And those ventilators were made in 17 days, made in usa. 97 of the content in those ventilators was made in the usa. What does that tell me as an exist . It tells me as we move through the structural shifts well have to navigate carefully as the world has shifted and the economy has shifted, we see a path forward with this repurposing. Innovation, the manufacturing, the flexibility and the speed with which this was done was breath taking. I found it comical a day which will be marked in the history books on wednesday was not marked in the newspapers. All the newspapers wanted to talk about is who and who wasnt Wearing Masks that day. But that, fareed, when you go back in time 50 years from now that will be the turning point in the recovery of the American Economy bringing its manufacturing capacity onshore and basically restoring this economy in a manufacturing economy that will make us stronger and more resilient. All right. You got a chance to tell that story. So let me ask you, every expert said that if were going to open up, you need testing. You need testing on mass scale, you need testing where people are getting prioritized correctly, access for those who need it. Most people bill gates was on the show last week and said the u. S. Testing system is chaotic. Even now, when the administration and President Trump is touting the testing as great success, heres where we are. Were testing 20,000. Iceland tests 146 per thousand, germany 30, russia, 37, italy, 34, australia 33. Should we really be at the back of the list on testing if were going to open up the economy . I think that you might be challenged on those statistics by some others in the administration. But let me look at this from where i sit. My mission at the administration during this pandemic has been to focus on making sure that we have a supply chain that delivers things like testing and ventilators. If you take the case of the ventilators, six weeks ago, people were saying we didnt have enough ventilators and what i was doing across the street working with fema and hhs and people here in the building was making sure we did. Now by june well have over 100,000 ventilators, nobody who needs a ventilator has been denied one. With testing, fareed, its important, theres Virus Testing and also antibodies testing. The more we can do of each over time the more we will be able to surveil and protect the American People and keep our workplaces open. Got news here its very good news just as with ventilators, as that curve went up, with production, were doing the same with Virus Testing and antibodies testing. So i see a Bright Future ahead on that as we move into the summer and a way to a possible problem in the fall, were doing what we need to do as fast as we can do it. Well, peter, we are out of time. I really enjoyed having this conversation. I hope we can have more. I continue to feel that the countries that seem to read your memo, even though it wasnt meant for them metaphorically, the south koreans, the taiwans, the hong kongs and singapores of the world seem to have done well by reacting quickly. I just wish we had reacted as quickly as they did we think we did. Were acting quickly and as President Trump moves stuff in trump time, were moving mountains in this crisis. I appreciate the time today. Appreciate it. We would love to have you back. Thank you, sir. Any time. Now, if you are wondering what the world will look like postlockdown, so are we. Next week, we will bring you a special that looks at just that. What economics, politics, cities and life in general will look like. Its called post covid19 world and it will air next sunday at 10 00 a. M. Eastern. Next on gps, did you know theres a western country that essentially never locked down and its covid rates didnt skyrocket . Well take you to sweden when we come back. When you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. Try pepto liquicaps for fast relief and ultracoating. Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. Get powerful relief with pepto bismol liquicaps. Get the perfectly grilled flavors of an outdoor grill indoors, and because its a ninja foodi, it can do even more, like transform into an air fryer. The ninja foodi grill, the grill that sears, sizzles, and air fry crisps. 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If youre hungry, you can go to a restaurant in sweden. Thirsty . The bars are open as well. You need a hair cut . Not a problem. Just go to the next barbershop or salon. As for kids, the young ones at least are still in school. The result, the death rate in sweden is higher than in neighboring countries but not as high as spain and italy, for instance. Parts of the Scientific Community in sweden have been up in arms, but the man who came up with this approach is a scientist as well. That man is anders tegnell, swedens chief epidemiologist and he joins me now. Dr. Tegnell, pleasure to have you on. Nice to b begin by explaining simply why did you decide, contrary to almost every other country, that you did not need to do a lockdown in sweden . I think because we really from very early on thought we would achieve the same effect using the normal system for sweden Public Health, working with giving responsibilities to individuals in our country. Does that mean you think that you can achieve a large part of what you need to do in other words, you can flatten the curve enough by just putting out some guidelines and you dont have to shut schools, you dont have to shut restaurants, et cetera . You get enough bang for the buck, as it were . Yeah. I think so. I think so far six, seven weeks into the epidemic in sweden, we have managed to do that. We have a very flat curve. Our Health System is still working. Its a tough time for them, but they have never been overburdened. Actually, at any given time theres at least 20 of icu beds empty. Traveling in sweden has been kept down by at least 90 . A lot of people are staying home. Our yearly flu epidemic usually lasts six, eight weeks. It stopped after four weeks after we instituted these measures. I think we get a lot of effect from the things we did. Can you explain the death rate . Because you have in sweden a death rate that is a good bit higher than in your neighboring countries, though as we pointed out not compared to the worst countries in europe. Why do you think was there you know, did this kind of is this an unintended or accidental occurrence or is it, you know, is it a cost you had to pay . Its certainly an unintended occurrence. Its not something we counted on. Not something we wanted. Theres two Different Reasons for this. One is that actually our incidence in sweden has been much higher than in neighboring countries. Were quite sure about that. Our Testing Capacity has been limited. The number of people in sweden that has been infected so far has been quite a lot greater than our neighboring countries. Thats one part of the answer. The other part is an unfortunate number of introductions of the disease into our elderly in sweden, that caused a very high level of mortality in those places. And thats been very unfortunate. But a large part of our mortality has taken place in those institutions. So, do you think that that means we should be approaching this disease slightly differently, particularly as we move into opening up in the rest of the world, which is there should be greater emphases in terms of dpid liguide lines and quarantine measures for older people . Because in much of the western world, at least, 80 to 90 of the hospital saigizations seem for people over 60 to 65. Rather than quarantining everybody, in a sense, is there a way to be more form in the quarantine measures for those people who are really at risk . Yeah, i think so. We are all learning as we go with this disease, it keeps on surprising us in didnt ways. I also think you really need to adapt measures to your to the way your country works. I think thats what we have done in sweden. Thats why it works so reasonably well so far. What is your reaction to the american strategy of handling the coronavirus . I think from my point of view, i dont know the details, you had an unfortunate start. I think thats you can tell countries who had an unfortunate start like italy and a few others. Then you quickly get into major problems. When you have an able to keep it reasonably low for some time, they can adapt and get your Hospital System to scale up, get your testing system to scale up, its a lot easier to handle it even also then you will have high mortality and a lot of cases and a strain on your Health System. But if you are relaxed in the beginning, it can cause havoc. Do you think having a highly decentralized Health Care System like the United States does makes it harder . I notice when looking at your system, youre able to make very quick and efficient decisions from the center. Yeah. But thats only a part of it. Even in sweden being small we have a highly decentralized system, but the resource of possibility is tlheres a lot o experience working together. Even if its highly decentralized, all the decisions are taken up in the regions. Theres 20 regions in sweden. Still, when we have this kind of crisis, we all come together and work together. So it looks like were having a lot of critical decisions taken at National Level, but actually all of them need to be repeated at the local level. Is it fair to say your basic strategy was to find some way to deal with the coronavirus that where you allowed the maximum amount of Economic Activity while still getting the curve down so that it was sort of sustainable . Economic activity never played into our decisions. It has, of course, played into the governments decision. It is the government in the end that takes the decision. But our advice to the government has been completely focused on Public Health. Sustainability is the important part of it. We all knew from the beginning this would be the long haul. We would have to live with this virus, with this disease for a long time. So we need to find solutions that we can keep on doing for a long time. We all know that we cant close schools for months, we cant close borders for months. So we try to work start working with things that we believe are sustainable for a long time and then maybe add a few things when and if it gets out of hand that we can have for a shorter time. To really start with the things that we can keep on doing. Dr. Tegnell, pleasure to have you on, sir. Thank you. Next on gps, more on President Trump blaming and shaming china. My next guests will explain what effect Donald Trumps words have had on the Asian American community. That story when we come back. Im greg, im 68 years old. I do motivational speaking in addition to the substitute teaching. I honestly feel that thats my calling to give back to younger people. I think most adults will start realizing that they dont recall things as quickly as they used to or they dont remember things as vividly as they once did. Ive been taking prevagen for about three years now. People say to me periodically, man, youve got a memory like an elephant. Its really, really helped me tremendously. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. At the end of march the Foreign Ministers of the g7 countries met to discuss how to handle the coronavirus. These meetings usually result in a final joint statement from the ministers. But at this meeting there was no such thing because the United States reportedly insisted that the statement call it the wuhan virus after the chinese city where the pandemic began. The its part of a pattern. Trump and his allies are intent on demonizing the chinese. How does that feel if youre a chinese american . Joining me now are jiayang fan, staff writer for the new yorker, and erika lee, the author for america for americans history of xenophobia in the United States. Jiayang fan, let me ask you what your sense is between the connection of this rhetoric and what the way Chinese Americans perceive it you report on this a lot but also personally, has it affected you . Right. So as an asian person who has lived in this country for more than two decades, i dont think that racism is new. Both the very older variety and the somewhat subtle variety. But what i have noticed in the last few months is how pronounced that has become. For me personally, i live in new york city, one of the most cosmopolitan and diverse cities in america, in the world, im not polyi polyian that and look like majority in this city, but in the last few months i have experienced a definite uptick of being mocked or thrown racial slurs for being chinese. The most egregious incident was one night when i was taking out the trash, after days of being cooped in as so many of us are, and being called a chinese bitch. That was actually, i think, hours after President Trump referred to the new coronavirus as the wuhan as the chinese virus. Professor lee, is this the kind of big shift in recent decades between from Asian Americans as being seen as kind of the model minority . How what does this look like in history . Unfortunately its nothing new. What the president and many of his allies and many other americans are doing is really building on a very long history of antichinese and also antiasian racism. Some rhetoric and narrative that has Long Associated Asian Peoples no matter how long theyve been in this country as foreigners, as threats as well. In fact, i suppose one could go back to the exclusion act, which is the first time the United States had an immigration ban specifically aimed at a country or an ethnicity, right . Right. The exclusion act is the First Federal law that singles out an entire immigrant group for exclusion based on race and class. It was interestingly enough, it was considered a temporary measure, much like many of the executive orders that President Trump has signed into law, but it actually ended up lasting for 61ye years it had generational consequences. It legitimatized antiasian violence. There were massacres, wholesale driving out of Chinese Americans from little towns as well as big cities. So this kind of rhetoric, xenophobia and racism that is coming out from our leaders has really direct consequences. Weve seen this in the past as a part of history and were seeing it today in the number of rising hate crimes. Jiayang, do you think this is something that seems to effect all Asian Americans . The president and his allies often talk about the chinese, the chinese. Most people perhaps would not be able to distinguish as easily between chinese, koreans, japaneseamericans. Do you think theres a solidarity growing among all Asian Americans . I think that for me, i do sense that it is not effecting only Chinese Americans. As you said, its hard to distinguish between korean americans, vietnamese americans, and japaneseamericans. Its unsettling for me to hear the number of friends and coworkers who are not chinese but who look who are of asian ethnicity who have said, oh, i no longer speak my native language in public or i feel compelled to wear sunglasses or to cover my face to disguise the fact that i am ethnically chinese. I think there is this growing sense of solidarity solidarity is great but its unfortunate its coming from this moment where we feel united by the by this looming threat that being out in public, speaking a language that is not english might make us victims. Professor lee, how lasting are these kinds of attitudes . Its very similar to that rise of hate crimes after 9 11 where muslim, arabamericans, people who were mistook to be muslim and arab appearing were targeted with growing hate crimes. What is interesting about the way in which xenophobia and racism works is it certainly can be activated during times of crisis, like the situation were experiencing now, but it also needs to work with active promotion, with politicians and others really, you know, using this rhetoric very often and casting blame, creating certain racial scapegoats. In fact, many years after 9 11 and during the 2016 president ial election, the fbi and other organizations actually recorded a historic rise in the number of islamophobic acts and hate crimes. That is totally connected to the islamophobic statements of the president. Erika lee, jiayang fan, thank you. Fascinating conversation. Thank you. Next on gps, how do you protest in the age of social distancing . As it turns out very differently. Ill bring you examples from around the globe when we come back. Grill indoors, and because its a ninja foodi, it can do even more, like transform into an air fryer. 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