Activists protested. On wednesday, the pope told young environmentalist greta to keep up her fight, and monday is earth day, and do we have time, or are we at the beginning of the end of a habitable planet. Thats what author Bill Mckibben asks in his new book. Ill talk to him about it. But first, heres my take. Around the democratic world, theres a power struggle taking place that might end up being the most damaging and long lasting consequence of this era of populism. Elected leaders from donald trump to turkeys erdogan to indias modi have been steadily attacking the independence of their nations banks. As the economist points out, politicians in the 1970s would routinely use Central Banks to goose the economy to help them win elections. This helped create a wave of inflation that paralyzed economies and caused untold misery. As a result, over the last three decades, countries have given Central Banks much greater independence. The United States was one of the leaders in this regard with paul volcker asserted the federal reserves independence and breaking the back of the stagflation that had crippled the economy in the 1970s. Today, its trump leading the charge in the opposite direction. Hes attacking the fed and asking it not only to cut rates but to actually engage in emergency measures to boost the economy at a time of robust growth and low unemployment. To insure that the fed complies with his wishes, trump plans to nominate two candidates to its board whose main qualification appears to be a slavish devotion to the president , but trump is not alone. Last year, erdogan issued a degree allowing him to appoint the banks central leader. In march Turkeys Central Bank spent 2 billion trying to prop up the lira in advance of local elections. In india, Prime Minister mody pushed out two Central Bank Governors so he could find a more pliable one. He succeeded. The bank cut rates to help hem in the National Elections now under way. In addition, he essentially raided the coffers for 4 billion to buy the votes of poor founders. In south africa, the governing party is moving to change the structure of its central bank. In the philippines, the president appointed a close political ally to head the bank. The italian populist governing coalition has been attacking the Central Banks leadership in italy, and questioning whether the bank really should be the steward of the 100 billion of gold reserves italy has. To get a sense of how much the intellectual mood has changed, consider this. Allen blinder, a princeton Economics Expert who served as vice chairman of the federal reserve, wrote an essay in 1997 arguing the fed was so obviously successful at policy making that government should adopt that model in all sorts of other areas like tax policy. That would shield policy from the overt political influence of elected officials. Today, trump wants the opposite. He would like to infuse the shortterm passions of partisan politics into the federal reserve. Trump senses that the countrys mood has changed, and hes right. The financial crisis, the Bank Bailouts have all eroded the feds credibility. Its not just in america. Across the world, Central Banks are seen as having failed to rescue main street while being too generous to wall street. Some of this criticism is justified, though not really in the United States where the actions of the fed and the bush and obama administrations worked much better than anywhere else. But even where the critique has merit, the solution should not be to destroy the entire institutional structure of central bank independence. The assault on Central Banks will not have an immediate effect. But over time, their credibility will be eroded. Their effectiveness will wane. And then one day, when the next crisis hits, we will all wish we had institutions that could weather the storm. But by then, it will be too late. For more, go to cnn. Com fareed and read my Washington Post column this week. Lets get started. The holiest week of the year for many christians began with the fire at notre dame. It is ending with what the pope called cruel violence in sri lanka. The island nation that sits off the southern tip of india was hit this morning, easter sunday, with a series of deadly bombings. The targets were churches and hotels, more than 200 people have died and around 500 are injured. Joining me now is Cnn National Security analyst peter bergen. This is a tragic terrorist attack, but also a somewhat puzzling one, is it not . Sri lanka has had a lot of terrorism, but it was generally speaking ethnic terrorism. Symalese versus tamils. Here, you have what appears to be an attack on a christian population. Sri lankas christian population is tiny, i think about 7 of the country. Muslim population is smaller. Whats going on . I think thats exactly right, fareed. This is puzzling and there are a lot more questions than answers. No claim of responsibility. The government said this is the work of religious extremists. They said they arrested seven people who appear to be part of a group. If you think back to the mumbai attacks, which you know so well, this kind of multiple kind of attacks on hotels and other locations, that was the work of lashkaretaiba. Its a group that doesnt have interest in sri lanka. There have been a limited number of sri lankans who joined isis. So thats not out of the question, but it does appear to be lash ckaretoiba that would be responsible, but which one, i have no idea, and sri lanka has not been a place where we have seen these kinds of attacks in the past. Is there a pattern here, peter, in terms of the nihilism of the violence. Theres no claim of responsibility so far. Theres no demand as far as we can tell. It used to be said about terrorism, you want a few people dead and a lot of people watching, because youre trying to publicize some demand. But now we seem to be in a world where the point is just mayhem and chaos. Well, thats right. 9 11 was the kind of exemplar of that, which is the most watched event in human history, arguably. And a lot of people died. So yes, this is kind of what we have seen since 9 11, this is probably one of the most lethal terrorist operations since 9 11 with 207 dead and the number will rise with 560 injured or wounded. But yes, no demand. We may get a claim of responsibility from isis, which will be hard to get past immediately because they have claimed responsibility for events that they had nothing to do with and they also claimed responsibility for events they have been behind. But i would certainly anticipate isis saying something about this in the next 24 hours or so, fareed. Peter bergen, thank you. Reminder that this is in fact the worst attack since 9 11 in terms of the number of lives lost. Thank you. Now, to the Mueller Report. Many questions still swirl. Some 72 hours after the release of the redacted version. We have all learned that term, redacted. Perhaps the most important is what is next for the president. Will the democrats attempt to impeach him . Is he at risk of indictment after he leaves office . To discuss, two people who know these issues very well, Robert Bennett is a lifelong washington lawyer who represented bill clinton in the paula jones and lewinsky matters, and laurent tribe is a professor of constitutional law at harvard. Professor tribe, you have written in the past very eloquently about the dangers of the talk of impeachment. Now, having read the Mueller Report, you have reached the opposite conclusion. You feel the house has no alternative but to begin impeachment proceedings. Explain why. Well, i have always been cautious about impeachment. I have always realized that too much impeachment talk can backfire. I have always realized that we have to take it seriously. But taking it seriously and not pursuing it even when the evidence is as overwhelming as this report makes clear, and i have read it carefully from cover to cover with the appendicis, even as redacted, what it makes clear is this president sought the help of a foreign adversary in trying to become president. He accepted that help. He pursued it assiduously. Yes, there was not evidence of conspiracy, but it is a lie to say that the Mueller Report clears him of collusion. If you read the framers from hamilton to madison to mason, the main reason they designed the impeachment power in the first place, after the experience with france and england, the main reason they designed it was fear that a foreign power would gain influence over our presidency. On top of that, there are at least ten carefully documented instances of obstruction of justice. They need to be laid out in front of the American People because smoking guns tend to generate so much smoke that they obscure the truth until you clear the air with visual testimony of firsthand witnesses. The Mueller Report is written as an essential invitation for the house to take up its constitutional responsibility. I continue to be cautious. I dont think that they should vote tomorrow on impeachment resolutions, but they need to expose to the American People what a corrupt, dangerously criminal presidency we now have. And it seems to be vital that begin as soon as possible. Bob bennett, you have in a sense watched this movie before. With bill clinton, what happens is the house in a fit of moral righteousness, has impeachment proceeds, votes to impeach the president , and then we all discovered at the time, that was not the end of the process. The senate then has a trial and it acquitted bill clinton and the result was his Approval Rating soared because it was seen that he was the victim of a kind of wrongful prosecution. Is that likely to happen again . Well, i think so. Let me say i agree with professor tribe, one of the great constitutional lawyers in our country. That a very ugly portrait has been painted by mr. Mueller. I have some concerns about impeachment because, first, it will be incredibly divisive in our country. But secondly, i mean, im a trial lawyer. So i kind of look at it from that more narrow perspective. Youre not going to win an impeachment trial. Impeachment are really just charged. And the senate would be a Republican Senate would be the trier of fact. And the chief Justice Roberts would be the presiding judge. And so, you know, if you lost it, which is 95 certain in my opinion, only, you know, the president will claim victory, and we will have all this divisiveness. Sometimes you should rise i dont know, there is an argument, as professor tribe says, to go all the way, but im inclined to say not to go all the way. Professor tribe, you think that one of the crucial issues here is going to be the testimony of witnesses like the white House Counsel don mcgahn. People who, and michael cohen, who explained what it was the president did, what the president ordered them to do to obstruct justice. I think thats right. It was only live testimony of people like john dean in the nixon case that brought us to the very end of that troubled presidency. Now, bob bennett is right. It will be divisive, but were already deeply divided. I think hes probably right, though i dont pretend to have the crystal ball, that even after the live testimony, the senate will still be in Donald Trumps hip pocket and will acquit. But for goodness sake, if this isnt enough to establish the need to put every senator on record as to whether they take their oath to uphold the constitution seriously, i cant imagine what would be. Keep in mind, the dangerous precedent that would be set if the house basically says well, we heard the evidence. Never mind. That would really mean that donald trump in a potential second term or any future president would know that there is essentially no limit to what that president can get away with. I think its time to stand up for principle and not focus entirely on the political fallout. Bob bennett, let me quickly ask you, we have about 30 seconds left so sorry to do this this way, but what about the president s legal jeopardy in the roughly 15 legal cases that are being pursued now, many of them based on information from muellers office . Well, i think this presents the greatest jeopardy to the president. Because in those cases, or at least what we know about a couple of them, others are sort of under seal, is theyre going to be following the money, such as, you know, the trump tower issue. What did the president say when he wanted to borrow hundreds of millions of dollars . Does that comport with his tax returns . I think the president is at real risk in that area. But if i could comment on one thing, and this, i know this sounds terrible, but i think sometimes for the benefit of the country, you have to rise above principle. And i think this just might be one of those occasions. All these nasty facts and ugly truths can come out other ways. Fascinating conversation. I really thank both of you for shedding light on this complicated subject. Thank you. Next on gps, sweeping and systematic. Thats how muellers report described russias interference in the 2016 election. How does russia respond . Well hear from moscow when we come back. Stopping drivers from liking. Selfieing. 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You know, i think its a little bit i think thats what trump himself has claimed, his attorney general has taken a very aggressive interpretation of the report. Having sat down and spent the last couple days going through the report, however, seems to me that mueller team has concluded that there was no criminal conspiracy that they were able to determine. But in fact, there are many, many data points of potential collaboration or collusion that we simply are left not knowing what to do with. I think the New York Times had a great review today as a literally document and said the alternate headline could be he didnt not do anything. Andrey when you look at it from moscow, what do you think happened . Because there is pretty sweeping evidence of russian interference. What do you think happened . What do you think the russian government was trying to do . Well, i think that the russian government might have wanted to teach a lesson to give a lesson to Hillary Clinton in particular. Assuming the United States has been interfering into Russian Domestic Affairs for a long period of time, the message was clear that you shouldnt do that. If you do that, keep in mind that youre also vulnerable to a foreign interference. I dont think that the idea was to support donald trump, because no one in moscow really believed that donald trump could be elected. I dont think that the idea was to erode american political institutions, maybe because here in moscow, we are more confident in the resilience of the u. S. Political institutions than you are back in the United States. I think the centrality of the issue was not properly appreciated in moscow. Thats an interesting point. The real animus for putin was against Hillary Clinton. Remind people why. Putin really disliked Hillary Clinton. Thats right. He also had a real issue with u. S. Policy in the obama administration. People tend here in the United States to focus on obama at the beginning of his presidency and the reset with russia, but in reality, u. S. Policy and that of europeans had changed very dramatically after the russian takeover, annexation of crimea in 2014, and the subsequent launch of armed hostilities in Eastern Ukraine which continues to this day in ukraine. There were sanctions imposed. Even before that, the kremlin really took a personal dislike toward Hillary Clinton, blamed her for antiputin protests that really disrupted his return to the russian presidency. So interestingly, mueller in his report and also in indictments actually dated the Russian Campaign in the u. S. 2016 election to the post2014 period. So before donald trump was a real factor. I think thats true. However, its a very significant finding in the Mueller Report that confirms u. S. Intelligence agencies conclusion that this was done on behalf of donald trump. And that, i think, is something that has gotten lost in the finger pointing between the president and his former white House Counsel and the like, but its very significant. Andrey, what does it mean for u. S. russian relations that mueller came out with these conclusions. The president is claiming vindication. Do you think as a result, the president will feel less pressure to be tough on russia. The administration has been tough on russia, expanding sanctions, arming the ukrainians. Do you think theres a chance for a real rapprochement between t russia and the United States . I hate to bring bad news, but i dont think that we see any light in the end of the tunnel. I think that russia remains toxic. Its still a problem for donald trump. And frankly, i dont see how trump can exercise any more flexibility on russia under the current circumstances. For example, i cannot see how we can put together another putin trump summit without trump having many, many problems back at home. Finally, susan, in your new yorker, a commentary. You point out perhaps the most Extraordinary Part about the Mueller Report is the chaos in the white house, the way in which the president seems to operate, secretly telling one aide hes going to fire the other aide. That really is quite extraordinary. Well, thats right. And if nothing else, i feel like im frustrated as a russia hand with having these data points that havent yet been resolved into a clear and consistent narrative. However, on the functioning of the Trump White House, i feel this is a document that will stand for a long time as a record. Its not just in another anonymous oped. Its not just a bestselling book with accounts that were not sure what to make of. This is the dysfunction and chaos and lying inside the Trump White House as documented by prosecutors. Theres contemporaneous notes, phone records, other information. They have gone to great length to show, i think, a devastating portrait. Again, it shows how inured we are and how we have become almost complicit in the shattering of norms by a president. Its amazing. Fascinating. Susan glasser, andrey kortunov, pleasure to have you on. Next, the battle on 5g and why china is going to win. Please sir. There must be something you can do. Son. My father is going. My brothers too. Id rather die than stay. Son, you cant. Your hearts not strong enough. My heart is as strong as any. You have to let me go. Uncover the lost chapters of your Family History with ancestry. Get started for free at ancestry. Com anncr as you grow older, your brain naturally begins to change which may cause trouble with recall. Learning from him is great. When i can keep up anncr thankfully, prevagen helps your brain and improves memory. Dads got all the answers. Anncr prevagen is now the numberoneselling brain Health Supplement in drug stores nationwide. She outsmarts me every single time. Checkmate you wanna play again . Anncr prevagen. 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Its frequencies determine how much data can be transferred and how fast. Its a national asset, its in limited supply. Earlier this month, trump announced the u. S. Was opening up for auction the most spectrum of any country in the world. These airwaves the government is opening up for 5g may well be the wrong kind. Theyre high frequency, enabling a huge amount of data to be transferred incredibly quickly, but they operate at a minuscule range, as limit ed as a few hundred feet. As the board notes, 5g built for such frequency would require many millions of base stations and all kinds of other infrastructure. That would take time to build as well as lots of money. 400 billion, the authors estimate. And the u. S. Is in china, the government isnt going to lavish funds on digital infrastructure. Today, already, china has nearly ten times as many 5g base stations as the u. S. , and it plans to launch the first widespread 5g commercial network by 2020. Huawei is becoming expert at 5g networks which could make it one of the worlds leaders in that technology. And china has already assigned airwaves for 5g at a midlevel frequency to its three state Telecom Companies. This midrange frequency is at the sweet spot of range and speed, enabling a faster, cheaper rollout of 5g. If middle frequency spectrum would transfer to a quicker rollout of 5g in the u. S. , why isnt trump announcing its auction . Because mump of it is already used by the pentagon. And while possible, its a bureaucratic headache to get the government and commercial sector to share spectrum. 5g represents a huge economic opportunity. Think about our current 4g networks. The u. S. Led the world in 4gs development in rollout. In 2016, it added 100 billion to americas gdp. It flooded American Tech Companies with revenues. From 2011 to 2014, industry jobs increased by 84 . A much more intense version of this transformation will happen with 5g. And unless the u. S. Government acts fast, the main beneficiary will be china. Next on gps, in the last year alone, paradise has become an inferno, or at least a town in california called paradise. Glaciers melting at a rapid pace, and mozambique hit with a cyclone said to be one of the largest natural disasters in the entire southern hemisphere. So how are you going to celebrate earth day tomorrow . Ill talk to one of the most spirited intellectual activists on this issue, Bill Mckibben. Cant sleep. Me neither. Woo number one ahhhh [laughter] ahhhh were here. 98 of us dont get enough omega3s. Which is why megared advanced 4in1 packs more omega3 power into one small softgel. It supports your heart. Brain. Eyes. And joints. Megared. I never thought id say this but i found bladder leak underwear thats actually pretty. Always discreet boutique. Hidden inside is a super absorbent core that quickly turns liquid to gel. So i feel protected and pretty. Always discreet boutique. 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Living well do you often wake up with chest congestion . Or suffer excess mucus . Try mucinex 12 hour. The bio layer tablet immediately releases to thin and loosen excess mucus. And lasts for 12 hours. Mucinex 12 hour. 49 years ago, on april 22nd, 9070, millions of americans celebrated the first earth day. All these years later, mondays earth day will see many more people noting the day, and in many more places around the earth. The first message of that first earth day was act or die. Today, scientists tell us were nearing the point of no return. But has time run out . Bill mckibben is asking that question in his new book falter, has the human game begun to play itself out. 30 years ago, he published the end of nature, which has been called the first major book to warn about Climate Change. Welcome, Bill Mckibben. So good to be with you. Let me ask you what you think has changed since you first wrote that book 30 years ago. Two things really have changed. One, 30 years ago, we were issuing a warning about something that was still a little ways off and still a little abstract. The three decades since has seen the scientific predictions not only come true but come true faster and harder than we could have guessed. What was once a warning is now everyday life, everyday brutal life for tens, hundreds of millions of people around the world who deal with things we couldnt have imagined. Storms on a new scale, a rising ocean thats 30 more acidic. The world is shifted in profound ways. Half the sea ice in the arctic. The other thing thats remarkable about that 30 years is how little our societies and governments have done to respond to whats the greatest threat we have ever faced. I could not have predicted 30 years ago that we would have stood here now having done next to nothing about this problem. You know there are people, im thinking of someone like bjorn lomborg, who argues Climate Change is happening, its real, but youre exaggerating the effects, trying to rouse people and scare them and spend vast amounts of money doing things that will not ultimately have that much effect because we dont have new technologies to replace the old ones. What do you say to that argument . Well, first of all, the Scientific Community is now in a state of rare and robust consensus about how dangerous this is, and theyre telling us in no uncertain terms, were not in a position anymore to stop global warming. All were trying to do now is slow it down enough that it does not threaten our ability to have civilizations like the ones we have known. Even that at this point is not an absolute certainty we can still do it. The good news is that the engineers have done their job as well as the politicians have done theirs badly. The last ten years, the price of a solar panel or Wind Turbines dropped 90 . This is the cheapest way to generate power around the world now, if we wanted to get this done, we could. What that means, ultimately, is figuring out how to break the political power of the fossil fuel industry, because thats the thing thats kept us paralyzed all these decades. You pointed out that we cant really stop global warming. Theres enough co2 in the atmosphere already that its baked into the system already. Do you believe we should be aggressively looking at geoengineering. We had people on who argue everything from pump sulfur dioxide into the air, put reflectors on the ocean. Are those worthwhile endeavors . People were proposing these 30 years ago when i was writing the end of nature and they have never really passed the sniff test. You describe this as a kind of time test for human beings. And the emphasis on time, the acting now is very important. You argue more important than any other kind of Public Policy challenge we face. Explain why. Because it is the first time test. You know, dr. King always used to say the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice. This may take a while, but were going to win. The arc of the physical universe by contrast appears to be short and bend toward heat. If we dont win soon, we never win, because theres no plan for how were going to refreeze the arctic once we have melted it or all the other things were doing. So this is the question that makes most other questions moot if we cant get them right. And at the same time, its the place where we may be able to begin dealing with some of the other crises we face. In falter, one of the things i talk about is the way that the same time period that we saw this rise in temperature, we also saw a rise in profound inequality in political power. We cant solve either of these overnight, but the process of moving towards sun and wind is a process of moving towards a world that is somewhat more democratic, somewhat more local, and an awful lot of the imbalanced power on our planet right now is held by people who just happen to have control of the small deposits of coal and oil and gas, the perfect example being the Koch Brothers, who have used their position as our biggest oil and gas barons to essentially purchase one Political Party and intimidate the other. So there will still be rich people in a solarized world, but there wont be Koch Brothers rich people. Bill mckibben, pleasure to have you on. Thank you, sir. A real pleasure, fareed. Thank you. Up next, a good education, decent job, health care for all. Mortgage system for the 21st century. A comfortable retirement. My next guest says we need all of those in order to rebuild americas middle class, and we can do it. He says. Hes not running for president. 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A lot of people, say, look, these forces that are causing the inequality to widen, and its happening all over the world with income trees from china to sweden to the United States, they are happening because of these broad structural reasons, technology, globalization, things like that. And so theres a limit to what any government can do. I do look over the world and you can see while these forces are global, they are affecting everybody, particularly globalization, technological change. The way they play out is very different in different places. Norway, sweden, scandinavia, countries in general have had some increase in equality, but the level of inequality is so much less than in the United States, so much more opportunity to move, you know, from the bottom to the middle, the american dream. Its still there, but its not here in america. So presumably your answer is the government need to get much more involved, and there needs to be frankly more redistribution, right . Thats right. Its been a matter of choice, you might say. The choice of the policies that weve introduced and those policies have led america to have the distinction of being the most unequal of the advanced countries, and among the advanced countries with the least, least opportunity equality of opportunity. And, again, the social mobility being the key index which is if youre poor, what are your chances of moving to the middle . Yeah, and the chances of Young Americans are more dependant on the income an education of his parent than in almost any other advanced country in the world. So your argument would be, you know, spend the money you need to. It doesnt matter that the gdp ratio will go up to 150 . Its worth it and youll get the growth that will eventually reduce that debt . Thats not true. Thats not the prescription i would put forward. I would say we need to change our tax system. There are you know, we tax people at the top at a lower rate than we tax people further down. We dont tax capital. Somebody you know, one of the wealthiest americans said he was taxed at a lower rate than his secretary, and he said that was not right, almost unamerican, so it seems to me that theres a lot that we could do to create a fairer tax system and a tax sis them a would actually make the country more dynamic. Overall, would you describe your proposals as pushing america more toward the kind of european model of much more state involvement in the economy . Its more state involvement than weve had in the last 30 or 40 years, and one of the points of my book is to restore the balance, that the lack of balance is why our economy is growing slower, why the most most of the benefits of the limited growth that we have are going to the people at the very top. Its why we have more monopoly power today. We need a government, both in regulation to make sure you dont have excesses of monopoly power, that you dont have excesses of environmental pollution, so we need a regulatory we need government regulation. I always say when people criticize regulation. Here in new york city, if we didnt have stoplight, wed be in gridlock, and stoplights are a simple regulation. Who goes first. Its a way of taking turns. So we need more regulation to prevent some of the abuses that weve seen at in the financial sector, but we also need government to provide some of the things where the private sector isnt and often cant do. Basic research and then provide the kind of healthcare and then provide the Social Security for the aged, and thats why we have Social Security, and then provide disability. Thats why we have disability. If you think historically why the government entered these areas, it wasnt because it was crowding out the private sector. There were failures of the private sector. 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