To the president. For many he was the chief ideaologist of a nationalist protectionist populism he championed heading up breitbart news, it was to remaim americanism around the world and thus remake politics. Bannon who has been everything from a gold man sax executive to a producer was set to clash off with other white house officials, including the president s family. So not even a year into his job, steve bannon was fired. When he was dismissed. Bannon didnt disappear from the public eye. He resumed as executive chairman at breitbart the conservative news outlet and continued to give advice to the president. Then in january, Michael Wolffs account of fire and fury was published. It painted the president if a less than flattering light. Trump had enough, in a statement he said when bannon was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. After his president ial dressing down, bannon resigned from breitbart, but kr continued to spread his brand of populism and is in high demand, especially in italy. He invited many tow rome to interview him. Why rome . For a person thats often been accused of chaotic. Italian politics are more chaotic than ever, whats caused the problem is an election win by italys populist who bannon has been supporting. We will dig in with that later in the show. Over the next wave of populism on midterm elections and his former boss president donald trump. Here is my exclusive interview. Thanks for having me on, fareed. You thought the trump jr. s meeting in trump tower was tree sonnous and somebody could call the fbi . I did. I want to ask you a question about the issue, in a sense, Rod Rosenstein called in the sense, isnt that good . Shouldnt that process be aloued . I have been a big proponent. In this ipg is petering out. Its the c block on anderson cooper. It will be done in 90 days. We will be done with it. Im saying the energy, when hand anderson has something, its the ablovenlg i have been a big proponent of mueller. I have been a witness of a fact. I have always said he is a combat marine as an individual. Now where i have a problem a huge problem. I was a guy that said publicly ty cobb should be fired. He gave the president i thought terrible advice and i think lied to the president consistently about the nature and the timing of it and giving overall a docket. I like all the precedent set with thesfrom. We willingly gave over a million pages of documents and allowed the zero chief of staff to expedite this i said cops should be fired. I was a guy that reported rosenstein, that he should be terminated. Heres why heres what the focus now should be, the president of the United States is the chief Law Enforcement officer ought country. He ought to order rosenstein to release every document associated with stefan help her and whatever happened in cambridge. We ought to see, by the way, not to cnn, not to the New York Times to give it to the chairman of the house intelligence committee. We have to find out alt paperwork, who got paid. What happened when a spy and a rekriert of spice which appears heller is, if rosenstein doesnt do it. She should be terminated. You were instrumental in endorsing President Trump. You were the first senior republican. Yes, were very close. Donald trump now says he wishes he had picked another tomorrow. Is he right . I think the president is wrong. I think he has been wrong from the beginning about if i can respectfully disagree with the president of the United States. I think that whole concept of recusal is not an why, Rudy Guiliani or Chris Christie or jeff session, anybody associated with the campaign would have had to recuse themselves before grassleys Committee Even voted them out to go to the floor for a vote. So i think the recuse am is an issue yes that had to be dealt with whether you picked rudy, christ tee, rudy was always the first pick. Jeff session a rudy as secretary of state. So even rudy know at the time there was going to be this recusal. I think if you look at what Jeff Sessions has done on immigration, on migration and all the key issues of the justice department. I think sessions has personally done an excellent job. Sexes has done a job of devolving this now to rosenstein, i think the question is rosenstein particularly gets the cohen thing in the trump organization. Now he refuses to give some sort of briefing to the bang of eight. They refuse to give these do you means to nunez. I think now rosenstein ought been given a direct order. Very simple. You turn every document associated with this spy over in cambridge and whatever foreign zugs institution is involved. Mi5, mi6. You get whatever the fbi did or the cia did. You see claerp and bremen, theyre bitter old men. You turn over every do you mean and if he doesnt turn to it over you give him 24 hours. If he doesnt turn it over, i would fire him. Thats not obstruction of justice, thats giving a Law Enforcement officer to turn over documents to capitol hill. If he doesnt do it, i would fire him. Next on this cnn special, steve bannon complained about the preponderance of immigrants in certain powerful positions in america. So basically you are saying there are too many people like me in america and it isnt that racist . Whoooo. Looking for a hotel that fits. Your budg tripadvisor now searches over. 200 sites to find you the. Hotel you want at the lowest price. Grazi, gino find a price that fits. Tripadvisor. If you have moderate to thsevere rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. Ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. Humira can help stop the clock. Prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. Before treatment, get tested for tb. Tell your doctor if youve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if youve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flulike symptoms or sores. Dont start humira if you have an infection. Help stop the clock on further irreversible joint damage. Talk to your rheumatologist. Right here. Right now. Humira. And i recently had hi, ia heart attack. It changed my life. But im a survivor. After my heart attack, my doctor prescribed brilinta. Its for people who have been hospitalized for a heart attack. Brilinta is taken with a lowdose aspirin. No more than 100 milligrams as it affects how well brilinta works. Brilinta helps keep platelets from sticking together and forming a clot. In a clinical study, brilinta worked better than plavix. Brilinta reduced the chance of having another heart attack. Or dying from one. Dont stop taking brilinta without talking to your doctor, since stopping it too soon increases your risk of clots in your stent, heart attack, stroke, and even death. Brilinta may cause bruising or bleeding more easily, or serious, sometimes fatal bleeding. Dont take brilinta if you have bleeding, like stomach ulcers, a history of bleeding in the brain, or severe liver problems. Slow heart rhythm has been reported. Tell your doctor about bleeding new or unexpected shortness of breath any planned surgery, and all medicines you take. If you recently had a heart attack, ask your doctor if brilinta is right for you. My heart is worth brilinta. If you cant afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. Introducing the worlds first sthe new ego string trimmer. With powerload™ technology. Feed the line. Push the button. And get back to work. With an industry first, carbonfiber shaft. Lawn care has never been this easy. Or this powerful. The new ego power string trimmer with powerload™ technology. Exclusively at the home depot and ego authorized dealers. I want to ask you about immigration. You said immigration is the issue on which you will destroy the left. Boo et the left. Be progressive. What do you mean . Because immigration is about not just sovereignty, its about jobs. Remember, the first bucket when we got on the trump company, it was make massive Legal Immigration and Legal Immigration the central issue of jobs, its the chamber of commerc commerce. Its unfair competition for black and hispanic working class, have you so much labor have you basically an agriculture, oil fields, services, et cetera. Have you this unlimited people of labor you continue to draw from. Legal immigration is the same thing, you will not be able to take the black and hispanic from the stem to two computer science, the great jobs in Silicon Valley unless you limit the hbv 1 visas. I think they have people from east asia. Its no hit for people, theyre fantastic. We have to carve some space out by allowing our citizens to get those i said Bernie Sanders and the labor movement. The reason i think we can carve off. 25 to a third of the Bernie Sanders popuList Movement, at the end of the day, we have to limit massive Legal Immigration and you are starting to see the Trump Administration, what hes done to limit massive ilLegal Immigration. Thats why we have the lowest black unemployment in history and wages starting to rise particularly in agriculture and Oil Field Services and construction. Is this why donald trump is this the strategy that will little the damage on the midterm . Is this the midterm . Heres what i think happened is, in the firstier, we had these conflicting voices of the globalists the gary cohens and masters who are good guys. Theyve come up in the nationalists. I think as President Trump looks at themidterm election, right, a and the Republican Party, paul ryan has quit. The Republican Party has had this at sued it will fight this. What trump has moved beside the chief of staff. Five or six people report to him. New nsc. Nick mulvaney reports to him. He is doing what he wants to do to execute on his plan and that plan he sees is the promises he made up until build the wall, which i will get to in a second. This is clearly playing i think for november 6th, 2018, it will be a base plus election. Few want to limit. By the way, its and up or down vote on impeachment. Trump is on the ballots. This will be donald trump versus nancy pelosi and hes nationalizing it using immigration. You will see central beating heart issues. No, i think kanye west, what he is doing is that the black america is now understanding. Hey, ive got the lowest unemployment in history. My wages is starting to rise, what this guy is saying makes a lot of sense. Its not aimum wage of 15 bucks. What we had to do is little this unfair competition the more he claims blacks and hispanics have been hit more than any other segment in our country. These are our best patrons. Theyre the guys in the u. S. Armies the marine corps. That working class black and hispan hispanic, they had from foreign labor, thats whats got to stop. By the way, trump i think this will be and up or down vote. He understands that. The tax cuts. The economy will go up underneath us. Its not going to res fate. Its going to be an you are either with nancy pelosi or donald trump. So to a degree, remember, the democrats have questioned his legitimacy from the very beginning this nul information project the one thing democrats in the opposition part, media, cnn, you got one thing right, will you get your doover. Trumps second president ial race will be on november 6th of this year. Hes on the ballot. We have and up or down vote. Do you back trumps program with all thats good and bad, or are you back removing him . Thats what tom pelosi and these guys want. You say are you not a racist. I take you at face value. I want to ask you about the policies and their intend or unintended consequences. Because they sure as hell attract a lot of people, supporters, i think about an exchange you have with donald trump on breitbart radio. Its very interesting, trump said he was in favor of high scale immigrants. You said, well, wait a minute. If you end up with twothirds of Silicon Valleys being from south asia. You paused it. You said a countries is more than an economiccommunities. Basically you said there are too many people its racist. Economic nationalism doesnt care about your race, religion, your gender, your religion, it cares about if are you a United States citizen. Those people in Silicon Valley are american citizens. We dont know, hang on. We dont know. No, no, we dont know whats come through by hb 1 visas. What im saying is we cant get the country sorted out until we now have taken science, technology and math. With all due respect, what that answer implied is they come from the wrong culture. If they came from the right culture. If i was white and christians, you might have a difference. Absolutely no difference. By the way, if are you from asia and you are here, Second Generation american citizen, absolutely no problem. These hb1 visas, you come here to take the jobs of american citizens is not acceptable. Its not racist. By the way the central beating artie of this is hayes panics and blacks have to hispanics and black versus to get into high value tech jobs. We wont have competition. I am going to do that by gutting spending. You are celebrating the deconstruction of the administered estate. But it is all those scholarships and programs, you know, prek, nutrition programs that help poor people rise up. I dont understand why have we just we just passed a 4. 3 billion budget. They added it to the defense programs, they hadded it a towel a these other programs. We didnt cut one penny out of this program. Which the way, its 130i7b 3 trademark of discretionary spending. We have trillion dollar deficits. Its structurally now it was a trillionandahalf dollar tax cut. It was supposed to be the part was supposed to some pret bucket and, by the way the class failed to do it. When President Trump finally woke up to the fact that he had been sold a bill of goods, remember he is saying that, hey, this will never happen again. One of the events to watch in this coming election before november 6k, september 30th is the end of the appropriations year. He has already said, im not kicking the can down the road anymore. We wont have crs. Thats what you will see on capitol hill now. People talking about, we have to get this done before the august recess. I have to get a few more things. What im saying is i think what President Trump is doing in nationalizing this, the wall is central the wall is not just to attempt the wall is absolutely strale to his program. I believe that we wha he is going to do, we come up on september 30th. If that appropriations bill does not include spending t fully build his wall, not some 130i7b 3w678 for pro to times to build the southern wall, i believe he will shut down the government. I think the government will shut down in the run up to the election. You have been nice about donald trump in this interview, yet he calls you sloppy steve. He says youve lost your minds. He says you had nothing to do with his election. Whats your response . Hes donald trump. I think hes doing a fantastic job. Look. Every day it will be difficult. You got to swing with it. I knew trump for many, many years prior to the campaign, not really well. Did he call to you tell you, steve, im just kidding . Trust me, he does not do that . Look, every action he is taking, i am happy w. I think hes got the right with larry kudlow, the right guy at cnbc. Hes a free trader. The first interview larry kudlow, he went on cnbc and cnn with his first interviews, he said, hey, we have to be tough on china, china has cheated us. You said it in your column two months ago, we got china dead to rights. They cant go to davos and give a big speech on globalization and the whole world is free trading when they work as a mercantile society. Why did i come all the way to rome to interview steve bannon . Well, italys politics were in absolute chaos this week and bannon has a lot to say about the subject. Much more on that when we come back. Were coming up on the tenth Year Anniversary on the financial crisis. The news that was lit then eventually brought the trump revolution is the same thing thats happened here in italy. Youre just too good to be true cant take my eyes off you i love you baby and if its quite all right i need you baby to warm the lonely nights applebees 2 for 20, now with steak. Now thats eatin good in the neighborhood. If you have moderate to severe or Psoriatic Arthritis, Little Things can be a big deal. Thats why theres otezla. Otezla is not an injection or a cream. Its a pill that treats differently. For psoriasis, 75 clearer skin is achievable with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. And for Psoriatic Arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. And the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. Dont use if youre allergic to otezla. Otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. Tell your doctor if these occur. Otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. Tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. Some people taking otezla reported weight loss. Your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. Other side effects include upper respiratory tract infection and headache. Tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if youre pregnant or planning to be. Otezla. Show more of you. Im a small business, but i have. Big dreams. And big plans. So how do i make the efforts of 8 employees. Feel like 50 . How can i share new plans virtually . How can i download an efile . Virtual tours . Zipfile . Really big files . In seconds, not minutes. Just like that. Like everything. The answer is simple. Ill do what ive always done. Dream more, dream faster, and above all. Now, ill dream gig. Now more businesses, in more places, can afford to dream gig. Comcast, building americas largest gigspeed network. What a week to be in italy. I was invited here to rome by steve bannon who has been an avid supporter of the pop jux List Movement here. A movement that created more chaos than italy usually has. The trouble stems from the countrys march elections. It saw the surge in popularity rejecting traditional politics. It ran on a italyfirst mentality, promising a crack down on immigration. If that shots sound familiar and threatening grave concern and global stock markets. That markets in london and new york. Stocks were tumultuous based on the turmoil in italy. Steve bannon is here to support and learn from those italian populists. In a sense, you think we were in italied a an unusual moment. Because this is the future and it might be the United States. Let me set the scene. You tell ne why this is the future. You had a strange leftright coalition a kind of pop jux List Movement with a five Star Movement along with the Northern League kind of separatist movement in northern italy. They won a majority in the election. Why is this the future and what does it mean for politics in the west . Were coming up on the tenth Year Anniversary of the financial crisis, the financial collapse that happened in september of 2008 as you remember in the president ial election of obama and john mccain. The implosion of those World Capital markets has never been sorted out the news that was lit then that eventually brought the trump revolution is the same thing that happened here in italy. You had this stagnant economy. The economy is smaller than in 2008. You had a problem jop jux list popy populist on the right and the left. They won. In twothirds of the vote that took place in march was really antiestablishment. Theyre saying, hey, we want to try something different. What was most amazing, they talked about big ideas and had incredible participation by young people. Particularly on the five Star Movement, which is the internet movement. Thats the only pop jux List Movement in europe that draws young people. For now. Have you some young people. But the five Star Movement is a Young Persons movement. Right . Its quite compelling, not just from the south, but it draws young people. They then over the eightqe2 e week period, i was vocal after the election and the media here saying, you know, it would be interesting if they put together leave oldie cot my of left and right aside and put together a government that united north and south. You see this as sort of sanders plus trump . I see this as elements of the Sanders Movement and the trump base. What was most important, i think, for the american audience is what five star represents is really anticrony capitalism, hey, its the Political Class that has hoisted this burden upon us. These people are not really schooled in government. The head of it demaio is basically was formerly a waiter. I think the mayor of rome who is a woman the young mayor of rome, i think she was formerly a se thiss people from every day walks of life who say this is the antipolitical party n. 80 days, what was amazing, they put aside the difference of north and south, right and left and came together with a government in a 56page document that laid out flat tax, how they were going to do this guaranteed income. Rig right . Really well thought through. On the flat tax. Growing the economy, getting it up to 3 . Is it fair to say the policy was left wing on economics, right wing on things like immigration . Except for the flat tax. This is the steve forbesrand paul dream of a flat tax around central europe. You see hungary, poland, other countries experiment with it. Remember, italy is the fourth largest economy in one of the founding members, the eighth largest economy in the world. Its still a Major Industrial power. People forget. That its not just a place for tourism. Its a major power. Particularly in the north. They were going to 15 flat tax, which is pretty radical. Heres he point, it was well thought through. Heres whats most impressive about demaio, they put their egos aside. They put another guy up, unknown law professor as the Prime Minister and then they put toke to put the guy, who is an expert in the eu and actually the euro. Now hes quite controversial. Because he said from day one, this is a german cage. They got us locked in. But they put him forward as a finance minister and the central guys rejected. How will this come to america . Why do you think its similarly dismissed . The Tea Party Revolt of tent 10, which saw 62 seats going to the house, kind of petered out with the Romney Campaign and obama. I saw in the european elections of 2014 was nigel farage, the beginning, the reinvig racing, europe is about a year ahead of the United States, i think you see now pieces put together where you see popuList Movements. You could begin to see the elements of Bernie Sanders coupled with the Trump Movement that really becomes a dominant Political Force in american politics. Next on this cnn special, trump has yet to build his wall and his tax cut disproportionately helps corporation or people who are already rich. As the trumpian revolution as bannon envisions it failed . I asked steve bannon. Remember, i was the guy that argued, there ought to be a 44 tax for the upper brackets . That was dismissed early on. You have to make manufacturing competitive in the United States, thats the heart of the te text. It hasnt come back. The estate Tax Exemption has been doubled. Its 2 of americans pay saturday taxes. Is this the one . Fareed, i do disagree, sometimes you are caught too much in the process. Dont miss the final days of our semiannual sale save up to 700 on sleep number 360 smart beds. Ends sunday. Get your groove on with one a day 50 . Get ready for the wild life complete multivitamins with key nutrients that address 6 concerns of aging, including heart health, supported by bvitamins. Your one a day is showing. Where were changing withs . Contemporary makeovers. Then, use the ultimate power handshake, the upper hander with a double palm grab. Who has the upper hand now . Start winning today. Book now at lq. Com. The commute is worth it. Me, the more you know you and that john deere tractor. You can keep dreaming up projects all the way home. Its a longer drive. But just like a john deere, its worth it. So you think at the heart of this populism is an economic populism to take care of these second class people often left behind. I wonder 500 days, the signature achievement of the Trump Administration has been a tax cut basically disproportionately to the wealthy, to corporations, this hasnt been much return of manufacturing jobs, you gave a speech. You said three things they got to do, control immigration. You got to take care of, bring back jobs from china, get out of these wars . Yes. None of thats happened. There is no wall. No jobs back from china, they were still lets go with the tax cut. I cant believe you approved of that tax cut. Remember, we first came in paul ryan and guys have been working on for seven or eight years, adjustable tax. That was very much made on the model of germany, to make us an export nation, heavy inducement to manufacturing. 100 capital equipment, period zero. That blew up in the first 90 days the cokes and walmart and retailers said this will be a valueadded tack. We got to get rid of this thing. Ten the Trump Program was i believe in the center of it is quite wise, they said, hey, we cant get anything else done. We have to get competitive with germany and china as far as taxes go and repatriation. The heart of it. Remember, i was the guy that argued there ought to be a 44 tax for the upper brass. That was dismissed early on. The beating heart of it, recent populist came together. It was a major step. You have to make manufacturing competitive in the United States. Thats the heart of that tax. By the way it hasnt come back. No, no, no. The estate tax has been exemption has been doubled. Plus 2 of americans pay a state taxes. Fareed, i do disagree sometimes you carbon too much process. Heres the thing, its a beginning. Directionally, you are starting to see the animal spirits, reinvestment in the country. Its one of the reasons we are 3 growth last year the projection is up to 3 growth. A lot of that is for the reinvestment in manufacturing. Now, was it a perfect tax cut . The answer is no is it . It gives us an engine to drive. The answer is yes. You will see President Trump later in his first term and second remember the address maybe the inequalities in our tax cut. It should have been addressed in the ryan bill. That blew up early. One thing about the leads, heres the thing. I dont believe that people focus on what started this. The financial crisis of 2008 brought on by the elites of both parties, where they bailed themselves out. That was where they went up to bushs white house, said we need a trillion dollars when they went bankrupt on the 15th. The smartest guys the geniuses didnt realize leyman brothers was the party of the commercial paper market. The whole economy started to blow apart. They go up to bush and say we need a trillion dollars by the afternoon. I got it, steve. The point is the same people are you giving them another tax cut. Thats what i dont understand. Is that the thing to keep the Republican Party with you. You are paying a price. When you first got into the campaign. You have to remember. Were a coalition of the republican establishment in this kind of populist national movement. We are cognizant of that i do believe heart was the corporation competitive overseas with china, my point is the Balance Sheet with the Federal Reserve was about 880 billion. The same crisis happened is flood the zone with liquidity. The collapse of the financial markets, so you had in the euro zone here, if you own real estate, stocks, intellectual property. Its the greatest tenyear run in the history the working guy has been stuffed. Thats what you see in italy and the rest of the continent. By the way, the elets dont have a response. What has stunned me is the arrogance, people think washington is arrogant to the heartland of the country. It is nothing compared to brussels and the city of london are to these countries. They have basically dismissed twothirds of the people, almost 50 voted for five star and the lid. Let they completely dismissed and said, not acceptable. Stay with me here, much more of my interview with steve bannon, coming up, ill ask him, did donald trump take over the gop or did the gop take over donald trump . To me, hes, phil micwell, dad. O golfer. So when his joint pain from Psoriatic Arthritis got really bad, it scared me. And what could that pain mean . Joint pain could mean joint damage. Enbrel helps relieve joint pain, helps stop irreversible joint damage, and helps skin get clearer. Enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. Serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders, and allergic reactions have occurred. Tell your doctor if youve been someplace where fungal infections are common, or if youre prone to infections, have cuts or sores, have had hepatitis b, have been treated for heart failure, or if you have persistent fever, bruising, bleeding, or paleness. Dont start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. Since enbrel, dads back to being dad. Visit enbrel. Com and use the joint damage simulator to see how your joint damage could be progressing. Ask about enbrel. Enbrel. Fda approved for over 15 years. And i recently had hi, ia heart attack. It changed my life. But im a survivor. After my heart attack, my doctor prescribed brilinta. Its for people who have been hospitalized for a heart attack. Brilinta is taken with a lowdose aspirin. No more than 100 milligrams as it affects how well brilinta works. Brilinta helps keep platelets from sticking together and forming a clot. In a clinical study, brilinta worked better than plavix. Brilinta reduced the chance of having another heart attack. Or dying from one. Dont stop taking brilinta without talking to your doctor, since stopping it too soon increases your risk of clots in your stent, heart attack, stroke, and even death. Brilinta may cause bruising or bleeding more easily, or serious, sometimes fatal bleeding. Dont take brilinta if you have bleeding, like stomach ulcers, a history of bleeding in the brain, or severe liver problems. Slow heart rhythm has been reported. Tell your doctor about bleeding new or unexpected shortness of breath any planned surgery, and all medicines you take. If you recently had a heart attack, ask your doctor if brilinta is right for you. My heart is worth brilinta. If you cant afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. Im a small business, but i have. Big dreams. And big plans. So how do i make the efforts of 8 employees. Feel like 50 . How can i share new plans virtually . How can i download an efile . Virtual tours . Zipfile . Really big files . In seconds, not minutes. Just like that. Like everything. The answer is simple. Ill do what ive always done. Dream more, dream faster, and above all. Now, ill dream gig. Now more businesses, in more places, can afford to dream gig. Comcast, building americas largest gigspeed network. So the second par of your program was bringing jobs back. There is a lot of talk on being tough on trade. There has been very little action. Steve mnuchin walked back a lot of the comments. Then the president , your president throws a lifeline to zt a Chinese Company basically exists on American Technology and says hes doing it because he is worried about chinese job jobs. You had a column about trump is a negotiator versus a market marketer. Both from the cheerleaders and the hawks . It was the rise of china. Donald trump has done something extraordinary that wall street and the corporate list told us could not be done. Hes gone three weapons, one is tariffs on a massive scale we havent seen before. The 50 billion we are talking about there is another hundred become after that and after that. Maybe up to a quarter of a become of tariffs. Okay. Number two is the 301 for people which is where china forces us, not steals our intellectual property, forces us to give the intellectual property to access their environment the last is these actions like zte we literally can implode the company. Okay to throw a lifeline to zte. Hang on a second, remember, their whole thing about a grand bargain with china, do we set the balance the next 50 years. On some of that he has north korea. He has to balance these two flash points in the year. Probably two or three where kit start. Before that the wall street told us all we have is the blunt city of swift systems. Trump brought in three weapons from the same time. Remember he came over here they had a sense of urgency. Ahead of the chinese economy. Theyve wanted to tap us along and have strategic conversations. In there you have a split in the administration. You have the breath wall street guys that want to accommodate. Work out some deal in the short term. Have you the hawks the millers the nationalists that say no i think the president s associates strategies. Heres where i think we are. Baath in nafta and around the world, were at the beginning stages of a major renegotiation of the economics of the United States, what our place is in the world its at the hart you said a couple months ago of the Republican Party and the reformation of the Republican Party. His biggest enemies in this a the Republican Party. His first day he went to capitol hill. He went to capitol hill because he knew thats where the free traders are, right . So he had basic backing to say when i go into negotiations, i understand that congress is full of free traders from the heritage and democrats. Trump i think has done an amazing job. Hes taken us further. Hes got real engagement. It wont happen overnight. You will see the next six months to a year the recalibration of the relationship with china we will stop being a tributary state. Its barbarian 101 him we are james town, theyre great britain. We send them raw materials, natural gas, soy beans, hogg. They send us back to advanced from the point of view of somebody in the republican establishment, from the column you referenced they said from our point of view things are working out fine. Trump talks stuff and little happens. The stuff that gets implemented to the core republican agenda, and what youre going to see is hes going to make some of these attempts at protectionism, but look what the reality is. Hes doubled down on afghanistan. Hes doubled down on iraq. Hes more engaged militarily in all those wars that you wanted them to get out of. There is no wall. There is no great tariff war with china right now. When they look at it, it seems to me theyre saying donald trump hasnt taken over the Republican Party. The Republican Party has taken over donald trump. Let me beg to differ for one second. You have to remember the right wing populism is different than the pom plichl in europe. Europe at the end of the day always looked for a state solution is. Part what have right wing populism is deconstructing the Administrative State getting rid of a lot of the regulations, opening up entrepreneur opportunities for working class people and getting more of a piece of the action for the working class and lower middle class. What trump has done with judges and the massive deregulation which is totally playing to the populist agenda. These trade deals are enormously complicated. We walked away from tpp, were deep in it with nafta. He started to engage the eu. Were deep into china, we laid on 50 billion in tariffs and hes making progress on these every day. Talk about afghanistan and the wars. The central thesis of the Trump Movement and donald trump is america first. Its not america isolationist or america alone. He does this . A sophisticated way the National Security community doesnt get yesterday. He says the post war liberal rules based order that came after world war ii is essentially today from europe, the persian gulf, straights of malacca and the northwest china sea is the combination of trade relationships, commercial relationships, Capital Markets and security guaranties and alliances is underwritten by the american taxpayer, and its the deplorables where the tax burden goes and in addition its their kids in the hindu kush mountains of afghanistan in the South China Sea and the korea. Its the deplorables saying there has to be a recalibration of this. Not that america is backing off from this but america is more than an expeditionary human tear military force thats willing to be the worlds cup. In nato he says it has to be 2 , and you have to be an ally. That is stuff obama said. There are more troops now and more bombs and theres more engagement. Hang on, this is an important point. In the northwest pacific or japan or korea hes engaging our allies to say hey look, this has to work for america overall so korea, im going to renegotiate our trade deal, at the same time we talk about the Security Alliance and same time we talk about the thaad system and at the same time we talk about you paying for the thaad system, the same thing in japan. The Foreign Policy community by fur indica bifurcated this. These are inextricably linked our trade relationships and interNational Security and that engagement, so people, the first thing the opposition media party says about him hes an isolationist. He wants america to go alone. Its the opposite if you look at everywhere its engagement including in iran. Remember in iran its the front line nations of saudi arabia and united arab emirates, egypt, israel, jordan and bahrain the biggest cheerleaders are what hes done. You look around the world its the opposite as hes been portrayed. America seems to be deeply polarized under olympic olympic. European countries are also torn apart. How would steve ban none end this wave of polarization and bring people back together . I ask him when we come back. I keep saying if Bernie Sanders was more confrontational and more stones he would have been the nominee and would have had a real fight with donald trump. Join tmobile. And get netflix included for the whole family. So you can get lost in space in your own backyard. Or get pumped up for your grand entrance. Only tmobile lets you watch your favorite movies and shows in more places, without paying more. Get an unlimited family plan with netflix on us. And right now at tmobile, buy one Samsung Galaxy s9 and get one free. Now that im on my way do you still think im crazy standing here today i couldnt make you love me but i always dreamed about living in your radio how do you like me now . applebees 2 for 20, now with steak. Now thats eatin good in the neighborhood. Essential for the cactus, but maybe not for people with rheumatoid arthritis. Because there are options. Like an unjection™. Xeljanz xr. A oncedaily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. Xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling and further joint damage, even without methotrexate. Xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma and other cancers have happened. Dont start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. Tears in the stomach or intestines, low blood cell counts and higher liver tests and cholesterol levels have happened. Your doctor should perform blood tests before you start and while taking xeljanz xr, and monitor certain liver tests. Tell you doctor if you were in a region where fungal infections are common and if you have had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. Needles. Fine for some things. But for you, one pill a day may provide symptom relief. Ask your doctor about xeljanz xr. An unjection™. Ask your doctor i think, keep going, and make a difference. At some point, we are going to be able to beat als. Because life is amazing. So i am hoping for a cure. I want this, to uh, to be a reality. Um, yeah. Ed studies show that america is more polarized today than at any point since the civil war. Yes. And i wonder your style of politics, the intense polarization, the battle, the sense in which people are now warring tribes, isnt it, i mean that might work in politics but how do you to quote lincoln how do you bind the wounds of the country back together . We dont have the wounds yet. I think its healthy. I think its healthy, like it was here in italy. Heres where i think its healthy. People are more engaged in these topics now than theyve ever been. These are the greatish use of the day. This is what i keep saying the theory of history, were in a fourth turning. The country will be one thing or the other. This battle between nationalist and globalist is at the fundamental roots of what america is, what america will be. I welcome it. I love the confrontation. In fact i keep saying if bernie ers had been more confrontational and had more stones, he would have been the nominee and we would have had a real fight with donald trump in the run up to 18, or 16 not hillary clinton. What i think is that this is very healthy, and by the way for folks at home, i think this is going to go on for a long time. I think its a long time before we bind up the wounds. We have a lot more fighting and hay lot more scar tissue to go eve over. Steve ban none thank you for coming on. Thanks for having me. Catch Fareed Zakaria gps every sunday 10 00 a. M. Eastern and pacific in the United States, International Viewers check cnn. Com for your local air times. Ciao from rome. Hello, thanks for joining me on this sunday. Im pamela brown in for fredricka whitfield. We begin with the latest turn in the russia investigation. The president s lawyer sending special Counsel Robert Mueller a 20page letter this past january arguing that trump cannot obstruct justice. This is according to the New York Times, which could be tained the letter sent to muellers team. Now the attorneys say President Trump, as the countrys top Law Enforcement officer, can end an investigation at any time and for any reason. All of this is trumps new lawy