Changed the calculus of risk. I will talk to ray kelly, the Longest Serving Police commissioner ever from new york city. Then the Terror Threat across the atlantic in africa. Kenyas president on the threats and ambitions of somalias indiscriminate killers al shabaab. And making waves with a new book. We talk to her and the lead parent in her household, her husband. First, here is my take. Vladmir putin has americas Foreign Policy establishment swooning. One columnist admires the decisiveness that has put him in the drivers seat in the middle east. Not since the end of the cold war has russia been as assertive or washington as acquiescent. Its true that its been a quarter century since moscow has been so interventionist outside its borders. The last time it made these kinds of moves in the late 1970s and 1980 it invaded afghanistan and intervened in other countries as well. Back then commentators similarly hailed those actions as signs that moscow was winning the cold war. Now, how did that work out for the soviet union . Washington Foreign Policy elites have developed a mind set that mistakes activity for achievement. They assume that every crisis can and should be solved by a vigorous assertion of military american power, preferably military power. By this logic, russia and iran are the new masters of the middle east. Never mind that those countries are desperately trying to shore up a sinking alley. Their client, the assad regime in syria is a minority regime. It represents 15 of the countrys population and faces a series of deadly insurgencies supported by vast portions of the syrian population. If russia wins somehow against the odds, they get syria, which is a caldron, not a prize. Imagine if president obama escalated force in the middle east. Imagine that it was successful and the assad regime fell. What would be the likely outcome . Here are some clues. Washington opposed saddam husseins regime in iraq, syrias next door neighbor. It did far more in iraq than anyone is asking for in syria, putting 170,000 boots on the ground at the peak and spending nearly 2 trillion over a decade. And yet, a humanitarian catastrophe ensued with at least 150,000 killed. Washington then deposed gadhafis regime in libya, but chose to leave nation building in the locals. The result has been what the new yorker calls a battleworn waste land in libya. In yemen, the United States supported regime change and new elections, the result, a civil war that is tearing the country apart. Those who are so righteous and certain that this next intervention would save lives should at least pause and ponder the humanitarian consequences of the last three. In Neil Fergusons intelligent and sympathetic biography, i was struck how todays mood resembles that of the 1950s. The atmosphere abounded with deeply dangerous proposals simply designed to demonstrate american strength and vigor. From deposing egypt to military confrontations with the soviet union and hungary, to the use of Nuclear Weapons over taiwan, pundits were clamoring for interventions and outraged that North Vietnam and cuba had gone communist while the United States sat there and watched. One man, president Dwight Eisenhower kept his cool, even though it sank his poll numbers. The Kennedy Administration ended what they saw in cuba and vietnam with disastrous results. I believe that decades from now, we will be glad that barack obama chose Dwight Eisenhowers path to power, not putins. Lets get started. When Malaysian Airlines flight 17 was shot down over ukraine 15 months ago, 193 dutch citizens perished. This week, their nation released a damning investigative report on how and why its citizens and others died. It said that a russianmade buk missile is what downed the airliner. 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One of the things people are trying to figure out in the west is, is Vladimir Putin searching for a negotiated settlement in ukraine . Is he searching for a way to deescalate the situation, to stabilize the situation because he faces shrinking economy, sanctions, collapse of oil prices, and now of course he has this intervention in syria . Do you believe that putin is looking for some kind of settlement . Do you see any signs of that . I wish. But unfortunately, no. Unfortunately, the until the september, we have an active combat operation and obviously now we have a ceasefire. But unfortunately, we dont have any continuation of the means process. The same as i told you. The first decision which putin should make is withdraw his troops from ukrainian territory. And i think that the absolutely irresponsible behavior of russia in syria when he launch this operation. This simply continue the logic, logic which was said last year, at first it was crimea, third, it is syria, fourth, maybe, i dont know, afghanistan. And nobody knows where the russian soldiers can appear in the very next moment. Mr. President , you were seen recently in a ukrainian plane that has been outfitted to nato standards. And so i wonder do you want ukraine to become a member of nato . This is very important question. Of course i want peace, security as a president , for my country and for my people, especially in this situation where were under attack of russia, when we are object of their aggression. Nato today is maybe the only most effective mechanism to provide security. Because after russian aggression in my country, they completely destroyed all postwar Security System based on the institute and charter and principles of the United Nations. When we have a situation, one of the permanent member of the Security Council is an aggressor and he using his veto right, that means all mechanism which was created is not working. And now it is my responsibility to provide and implement reform in my country to transform the country to the nato. And then well have this discussion. I think i need for that at least five, six years. Mr. President , pleasure to have you on. Thank you very much indeed. Next on gps, last month saw the 9 11 anniversary, the popes visit to america and the United Nations general assembly. All passed without incident. Just how much has the advent of isis increased the Terror Threat to the American Homeland . I will talk to former new york city Police Commissioner ray kelly. Or as much as you want, any way you want it. Sweet, buttery, and creamy. Like new pineapple habanero coconut shrimp bites. And teriyaki grilled shrimp. And yeah, its endless, but it wont last forever. How much prot18 . 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I started by asking him just how isis has changed the threat matrix against the United States. Isis has been a bit of a gamechanger. We havent seen a terrorist entity with the resources that theyve had, with their facility to use social media to get the word out to recruit. Obviously still effectively recruiting. Their brutality has certainly kept a lot of things in line in the middle east. So, yeah, im concerned about it. And im also concerned about cyber terrorist event perhaps generated by them because they have shown this ability to use the internet effectively. When you think about this question of recruiting and you you ask yourself, how would you figure out whether there are some either vulnerable or crazy or evil people out there, young people, who might be attracted to this ideology, what should the fbi, Police Departments in the United States or europe be doing to try and figure out . Because it seems like such a difficult task. There are so many people who are alienated. Which ones are going to become jihadis . Very difficult. Something that has helped in the past is monitoring of chat rooms and the nypd, Police Officers born in 106 countries, we were able to operate in those chat rooms and get some indication of young people who are talking the talk, so to speak. It is no easy task, believe me. I have to ask you about the stuff weve seen in the last few months in the United States with these videos. What do you think has gone wrong in so many of those cases where we saw the Police Acting in ways that the police should not act . Well, the thing thats changed, of course, is everybody over 10 years of age has a camera. The whole video world has been a bit of a gamechanger. The police was always behaving like this but now were getting a chance to see i dont believe that. But in some peoples minds, this suspicion is confirmed. This is sort of knock the police back on their heels some what. A lot of introspection is going on in the police world. I personally believe that cameras worn by Police Officers are a good thing that i think will perhaps regain trust in a lot of communities that has been lost because of these horrendous videos, particularly the murder of walter scott in north charleston, south carolina. That was so egregious. We have what appears to be planting of evidence. Of course that trial is coming up. Now at least potentially Police Officers wearing cameras, youll be able to see the beginning, middle, and the end. I believe those cameras will show a great preponderance of good work on the part of the police. When you look at these Mass Shootings in the United States and you travel, you read a lot about whats going on around the world, you know we have 20, 30, 40 times as many gun homicides as france or germany does. What do you think . Im very pessimistic about it. When you take over 300 million guns that you have in the United States and you have as many as 40 Million People were told with significant mental issues and you put that together, it is its just a terrible combination. If you had your way, would you have stricter gun you know, background checks all the kind of things that gun control advocates want . I think a lot of these things have been around for years. I was secretary of the treasury and atf reported to me. We looked at issues such as the gun control loophole. We said that almost 70 of crime guns were coming through the gun control loophole. That to me and to most people seems like a nobrainer. The whole notion of going to a gun show thats there to sell guns and you and i dont have to go through a background check doesnt make sense. You would think that that issue can be addressed on both sides of the aisle in washington. Wrong. Theyre not touching it. So far they havent want to go near the gun show loophole. Youre pessimistic that much will get done . Unfortunately i am. I just dont see the will to do it. Well look at the Mass Shootings for a couple days in the press. And then, you know, as a whole school of thought that says guns are the problem, not the people. Then this one is the people are problems not the guns. Thats sort of where we are in this country. Ray kelly, pleasure to have you on. Next, america was roundly criticized for recent deadly bombing for a hospital in afghanistan and rightly so. We will take you to a war where observers allege even more civilians are being killed on a regular basis. And the perpetrator of those alleged crimes is backed bit United States. Nothing artificial. Just real roasted turkey. Salt. Pepper. Carved thick. Thats the right way to make a good turkey sandwich. The right way to eat it . Is however you eat it. Panera. Food as it should be. When you think aarp, then you dont know aarp. 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So saudi arabia and a coalition of its allies began punishing air strikes in march. According to the u. N. , over 2,000 civilians have been killed since the saudis joined the fight just a few months ago. The majority of them were allegedly hit by Coalition Air strikes. Only 16 of civilian deaths and injuries in afghanistan were caused by progovernment forces in the first half of 2015. And only 1 were caused by international forces. The saudis have declared whole cities in yemen to be its targets. Theyre striking nonmilitary targets with great frequency showing an appalling disregard for civilian lives and there is damning evidence of war crimes. The u. S. Doesnt say much about the strikes, and it even failed to push through an independent u. N. Investigation that the saudis opposed. The result has been a humanitarian nightmare. Nearly 1. 5 million in yemen have been displaced and more than 21 million need humanitarian aid. That is about 80 of the population. Entire cities lie in ruins and much of the country is on the brink of famine the u. N. Says in part because the saudis are blockading yemens ports. Its not even clear why the u. S. Should be helping the saudis in the first place. The yemen president the United States hopes to restore to power may have been democratically elected, but he was the only candidate on the ballot. In fact, this whole operation might be creating more terrorism. Al qaeda in the arab january peninsula has gained substantial ground in yemen. Whats odd is that the houthis are bitter rivals of al qaeda in yemen. Whats more, isis is also gaining momentum amid this chaos, mounting suicide bombings all over the country. Saudi arabias actions are largely shaped by intensely antishiite and radical world view. Why should the United States encourage and affirm that Foreign Policy . Next on gps, terror loves power vacuums. In a moment, youll hear about the devastating terror group thats growing in africa. 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The world has been astonished over the last few years to see the rise of first it was al qaeda type affiliates, now it appears to be isis type affiliates in africa. Why is this happening . I think the best way to put this is that this is really and this is an argument ive been putting. This is not really a kenyan situation. Youve first of all got to recognize the neighborhood that we live in. We had a failed state right next to our border. A state where there was no rule of law, there was no government. It was just an open vast land. So when al qaeda sort of took root and they didnt take root in kenya, they found in somalia, a haven where they could do their training, they could do almost anything. You must study, though, this issue of why some muslims get radicalized because you have a Muslim Population in kenya. You must look at boko haram and think about the same thing. What is the answer . What seems to be attractive to young men, particularly . One, lets put it that first and foremost, lets say that there may be genuine grievances they may have. On top of it, you have this group of radical preachers who come and give very warped view of religion, you know, at friday mosque. Start telling them that what youre doing, you know youre doing for god, youre doing for its for your religion and for god. This is what we really got to focus ourselves on. How do you make this not so attractive. Weve got to start creating the muslim leadership in the world to start saying, no, boko haram, al shabaab, al qaeda do not represent the true faith. Let me ask you about economics. For a while africa was seen as this great hope, but a lot of investors i talk to, a lot of businessmen say, much of the reform they had hoped would take place in africa has stalled. Between corruption and dysfunction and bad government, theres still so much of it in africa that its blocking progress. Would you agree with that . I would look at it differently. I would look at it and say that the african nation is still on. I would say that yes, indeed, we do have challenges and challenges have been there. There is actual true realization that we need to reform our system to max the growth and sustain the growth trajectory that weve taken. This is why kenyans chose for themselves a new constitution in 2010 that sought to reorganize ni the way we manage our business as a country. Thats why they removed certain powers from the president and gave them to independent institutions to remove that personali personalitydriven cult that one man drives the entire system. People still say you are supremely powerful, you personally. Well, i dont know about supremely powerful. If you actually look at the situation we have today in kenya and compare it to where we were before, that is actually, you know, not the case. I have no power to appoint or fire judges anymore. Really my role is more or less a rubber stamp of saying whatever the commission, the judiciary has gained its independence. Where the issue of power comes from, oh, but you control parliament. Yes, its true, we have a majority in parliament. The people chose to give that majority to the parliament which i belong to. When people talk about gay right to the you and president obama did this on his visit there, you said, look, we have our culture, we have our traditions, dont try to impose your values on us. The problem for many in the west is that its not really seen as a matter of cultural values, its seen as a matter of innate human rights that these people are, you know, that you are in effect depriving people of their rights merely because of something that is godgiven, that they were born with, that there is increasing Scientific Evidence that this is the case, and why would you persecute people for something that they have ultimately no control over. Let me make it clear to you. Ill put it this way. All right . I think first and foremost, were all saying that whatever society you come from, the principal aim is that you must give the people, you know, their right to choose. Now, where we are, the level of development that we are at, i am not saying that these people dont have their rights. Thats not what im saying. I am just saying that the majority, the majority in our society, yeah, do not wish to legalize this issue of gay rights. Can you persuade them . The people in kenya are not at this point in time, and thats exactly what i said when when we were with president obama, yeah . So them, this is not an issue they are going to put at the center. They have more pressing issues. However, that said, i am also, and would not allow people to persecute any individuals, to beat them or to or to, you know, torture them, you know because theyre what im saying is witch hunts. We wont allow people to take the law into their own hands and harass. No, we wont. Every individual has a right to be protected by the law, and thats stated in our constitution. But what were saying is that as a society, we do not accept some of these values. And this is where im saying, weve got to get synergies. Youre not going to create the United States of america or Great Britain or the netherlands in kenya or in nigeria or in senegal overnight. Weve got to understand that these are processes and theyll take time. President kenyatta, pleasure to have you on. Up next, annemarie slaughter says nobody would expect a male ceo to juggle his responsibilities with parenting. So why do we expect a female ceo to do just that. Thats a very good question and one i will explore with her and the lead parent of her householder her husband when we come back. After i eat and get to goal. My doctor added novolog® at mealtime for additional control. Now i know. Novolog® is a fastacting, injectable insulin and it works together with my longacting insulin. Proven effective. 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Now we have a world in which for at least 60 of american women, women are working as well as men, but we havent changed the workplace. We havent made any room for what is an essential human activity, but more women are doing it than men, which is care. You look at the data that we see and you see that america has a real competitiveness problem because women and men start out in education equally. Women tend to do a little bit better in college and graduate school. Start out working pretty equally and then it changes. Absolutely. Ten years out, women start dropping out of the workforce. Why . Really historically, look at this, since the 1990s, were only at 20 of women in Senior Management and thats in a really good industry. The dropoff is dramatic. And the dropoff is typically because women get shut out. When they have kids and they are the lead parent, then they need more flexibility and but either they get taken off leadership track when they take flexibility because a lot of places have flexibility policies but you certainly cant rise if you take them or the workplace is unwilling to accommodate when they need. So they step out. And we as a nation are losing huge amounts of talent. Weve got a halfway revolution. We have radically changed womens roles over my life time, women have opportunities theyve never had before in history. But mens roles are more or less where they were in the 50s. And that is an imbalance, when you look at a male ceo, hes expected to be completely on the job and hes got a lead parent at home. When we have a woman ceo, were expecting her to be ceo and lead parent. That cant happen. So shes going to have a lead parent. In most cases her husband, sometimes her wife. That is where we have to focus on changing roles. You say your career would not have been possible if not for the fact that your husband was the lead parent. Absolutely. So first, youre not just her husband, youre a tenured professor at princeton university. What do you think we can learn from other countries, particularly Northern Europe . Is this a problem that can be solved with a few important governmental shifts . Not solely, but they certainly help. The starting place a paternal leave, flexibility in the workplace, and job security for people. And we were fortunate to be in the academic profession where we have those things. For so for me, becoming a parent, taking care of the kids to a greater extent than anne marie was not so incompatible to my career that i was unable to manage it and thats what made this possible. Its certainly more possible to do that in countries like norway and denmark and sweden thap it is in the United States today. Does europe have the kind of equality that you have at the higher levels . Culture must also play a role. Europe has better laws but frankly in many way ls i think opportunities just culturally are more available to women in america because of the idea that anyone can succeed. Thats right. The paradox of america is that many couples start out want iin to have 50 50 Career Opportunities for both members of the couple and 50 50 child care responsibility sharing. But they cant achieve it. Part of the reason is institutional and workplace related but its also cultural. We have values in this country where we dont feel that a man who takes those child care responsibilities and becomes the lead parent has the same legitimate standing in society that a woman does. Until we change those values, not many people are going to take advantage even of the opportunities that we make possible. Do you think men would accept these changes . I do. I think its in mens interest to accept these changes because men are trapped the same way that we often think women are trapped. Women are trapped in a role which is now a role of trying to do both the care giving and for career women working. Men are trapped in a role where they have to work. And they cant choose to be caregivers as well. I found it tremendously rewarding to be able to step back from that a little bit and be a caregiver at the same time as i work. Heres the truth that studies tell us. At the end of life, men look back and overwhelmingly say i wish i had spent more time caring for friends and family and less time doing the things that other people expected me to do in the workplace. Although it does lead to competitive parenting because now the boys text him more than they text me. It drives her crazy. It drives me nuts. Pleasure to have you both on. Thank you very much. Next on gps, isis issued a jihad against america and russia, too, for good measure. But coming up i will tell you about a jihad that intends to better the world, not create more violence and bloodshed. 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Food as it should be. This week, treasury secretary jack lew said the u. S. Would hit the debt ceiling on november 3rd earlier than predicted. The Situation Requires action, but when you compare the debt to the countrys gdp, it is worse than other parts of the world. My question of the week what country has the diagnosest debt to gdp ratio . Zimbabwe, greece, lebanon, or japan . Stay tuned. Well tell you the correct answer. This weeks book of the week is super forecasting the art and science of prediction. If youre wondering if theres any way to predict an election, an economic Crisis Organization even a war, he has an answer. He uses psychology and Political Science and a lot of common sense and he taps into whats often called the wisdom of crowds. That is fascinating book and it will make you think. Now for the last look. What do a papal, encyclical and Islamic Jihad have a problem . This isnt the start of a bad joke. Youll probably recall that pope francis gave a call to action in his environmental and cyclical this summer in which he wrote these singing words the earth, our home, is beginning to look more and more like an immense pile of filth. You may not have heard a similar call of action to a place home to many piles of filth including a dump so large it is nicknamed the mountain senegal. An imam in senegal has declared a green jihad, yes, a jihad against pollution. He says protecting the environment is a moral calling as the population of africa grows, human health is increasingly put at risk by emissions and pollution. The World Health Organization attributed nearly 45,000 deaths of children under 5 years of age in 2012 to ambient air pollution in africa. One photographer captured the african pollution problem with a collection of stunning images entitled the prophesy. He depicts not only the danger of the situation in senegal but hope for a Better Future as the Huffington Post pointed out. You hear a lot from the sipes community about the dangers of Climate Change but calls to action from artists or religious leaders are surely essential too. I for one and delighted that a devout muslim religious leer is using the idea of jihad to call for positive action to better the environment and help human beings in this world. The correct answer to our gps challenge question was d, japan. According to the imf projections the land of the rising sun will have nearly a 246 debt to gdp ratio this year. The United States is projected to be in 14th place with a debt to gdp ratio of roughly 105 . Still not a prize by any stretch of the imagination. Thanks for being part of my program this week. I will see you next week. Happening now in the newsroom across the spectrum of Foreign Policy, mr. Trump talks about things that as though hes still on the apprentice. Im not blaming george bush, but i dont want jeb bush to say my brother kept us safe, because september 11th was one of the worst days in the history of this country. Does anybody actually blame my brother for the attacks on 9 11 . If they do, theyre totally marginalizing our society. The political punches keep coming. Jeb bush firing back at donald trump today in an exclusive interview on state of the union. I dont think trimps going to win the nomination. Newsroom starts now