Neither side giving an inch. Maine Health Officials are filing a court order for mandatory quarentine for a nurse after returning from treating ebola patients in west africa. Now she is in maine where she lives where she is refusing to follow the states quarentine orders. She said she has twice tested negative and still in the infection period but feels it is sufficient for her to monitor. I wont follow the guidelines. Im appalled by these quarentine policies forced upon me. Well spaek speak to her lawyer in a moment. Tonight the president met with a group of Health Care Workers fighting ebola and he warned against discouraging volunteers in africa. We have to keep in mind, if we are discouraging our Health Care Workers who are prepared to make the sacrifices from traveling to these places in need, then were not doing our job in terms of looking after our own Public Health and safety. Jean casarez starts out in maine where hickox is tonight. Reporter Doctors Without Borders nurse has said she will not be quarantined. I will not be forced to stay in my home when i am not a risk to the american public. Reporter after returning from treating ebola patients in sierra leone last friday, she was forced to stay in this tent at Newark Liberty airport in new jersey even though she tested negative for ebola twice. Now at home in maine shes facing pushback from state Health Officials. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie has defiended his decision to quarentine her. She needed to be isolated because she was suspected of having ebola. And i have no concerns, and neither do the cdc which is on the ground in University Hospital monitoring his conditions. She has access to the internet and we brought her food. And dr. Spencer treated ebola patients and days after coming back, he walked freely around manhattan. He was not forced to quarentine and they say msf strongly disagrees with the blanket forced quarentine for Health Care Workers returning from ebola. Muckpo who sat down with don lemon, said he and other Health Care Workers have the right to monitor their own situation. To treat them as if they are a potential problem as opposed to a public asset, i think it is extreme and not the right way to act. If hickox does file a lawsuit for her quarentine, Chris Christie says. Get in line. And we are along the canadian border. And hickox is up the street and secluded in her boyfriends home but it may not be that way when the sun comes up because shes vowing to leave her home and the state of maine is vowing to go to court to get an order for mandatory quarentine. Erin. Thank you very much. Her lawyer will be with me in just a moment and answer the questions where shell be tonight. I want to go to dr. Sanjay gupta who was at the white house today when the president meet with the Health Care Workers. What happened today. Some of the terms with the president s frustration and the way things are being handled, for some being quarantined and others not being quarantined and the impact that is having on Health Care Workers going to west africa is what he is talking about. It was as much as what you saw as what you heard. Take a look at the images. On the left, a picture i took from inside of the white house, Health Care Workers from the president and some of them have just returned from liberia and they are with the president at the white house. On the right, kaci hickox, and all of them are asymptomatic, but some on the left are quarantined and now possibly facing a mandatory quarentine. And it was that dichotomy, the optics of that that he wanted to put out. And the very public hugging of nina pham which he did on purpose to show he would touch her. He had a chance to you had a chance to speak with the Health Care Workers, what have they told you. I wanted to get at this issue, if you came back and were put into mandatory quarentine, first of all, how would you feel about that and would it impact your ability to do your work or your desire to go back to west africa. Dr. Daniel tour taio was called a hero for the work hes doing and i asked him that and take a listen to what he said. I have another job that i have to do. And based upon the science of this, if i felt like i was putting my wife at risk, my 2yearold at risk, my coworkers at risk, i would take myself out of the game. He has a wife and he has kids, he got back as a physician, working over there in liberia and he told me, the first thing i did was hug my wife and two kids and i wouldnt have done that if i believe i was putting them at risk. It may seem like a minor point, but it is a major one and i was in west africa. That is really putting it to the test, with your own family how you behave and that is how you put it. It certainly is. And you look at dr. Craig spencer, he was with his fiancee and he didnt think he was putting her at risk and it turns out he had ebola. Nobody thinks it could happen to them. But at the time that he was with his fiancee he wasnt sick and that is the point the doctor made as well, you will not infect somebody unless you are sick. If you develop symptoms then you need to get checked out. And joining me, lawyer for kaci hickox. And she has been unwilling to follow the protocol for the cdc and the u. S. Centers for Disease Control for medical workers and have been in contact with ebolas patients. What is she doing about that . We are talking to her tonight about that and what her consequences are. The state of maine has to decide whether they will get the court order. Weve been trying to get them not to go to court and if they do get the court order we have three days to challenge that and we will do that. Because the state of maine has no justification to quarentine kaci, because she does not have any symptoms and she is not harmful to the safety, health or welfare of anyone in the state of maine. And we know there was a world Health Sponsored study and said 13 of people who get ebola never get a fever. And that is what everybody is quote, unquote, selfmonitoring for. And you would know if you are throwing up, you would know that is a question and speak out. And this is the incubation period, and that is why, not just maine, but maryland, new york and illinois are all doing the same thing. But they are doing the protocols, based in my opinion, based on fear and on meth, not on medical fact. The medical community is very solid on the grounds that if you dont have the symptoms, then you are not putting people at risk. And part of the problem is the Political Leadership in those states is misleading their constituents by not explaining to them in a Massive PublicEducation Campaign how this disease is transmitted. It is similar to, when i was head of the Civil Liberties union in 85 when the hiv virus hit us and people were scared didnt want to drink out of the same cup and concerned about aids and there was discussion about quarentine and we defeated that and we have to do that here. So has he decided whether she is going to violate the quarentine or not. She is not going to agree to the restrictions they place on her. If they get the court order, well go to court and we will challenge it. And if she wins her case, she walks free, will she seek other damages . That is something that well consider. I think kaci is, in my opinion, an impressive american and very knowledgeable of this issue. The main concern is that her voice and the people of the people in the Health Community in this country, they should be part of this debate. This should not be directed and led by the politicians, it should be led by the medical community. And in the mid cal community, people who dont understand, they dont see it the same way. They are saying it hit Health Care Workers the same as everyone else, 24 have died and to make my point here. A doctor came back to new york and he thought he taken every precaution, he wouldnt have been home with his fiance if he thought he would risk her and so not Everybody Knows whether they are exposed or not but if people should trust Health Care Workers implicitly . And so people say why wouldnt they just have a quarentine. They are told not to go to work for 21 days, why not stay home. Because we believe in principle and the constitution and the government cant take away your liberty unless there is a compelling basis for it. The myth, number one, if for ten days someone doesnt have the symptoms, on the 11th day they get the fever, the first ten days when they are interacting People Public in the public, they are not putting those people in danger. And we should deal with this in a medical way and not in a political way. Thank you for your time and for explaining it. Thank you. On outfront next, a search for answers after some spectacular explosion of this rocket last night, just about 24 hours ago it. Was running on a 40yearold engine design. Well tell what you happened. And news that the Ferguson Police chief is about to go. Will that calm tensions if the officer isnt indicted. And there is increasing uncertainty that key leaders who were plotting an attack on the United States were not taken out. Are they actively plotting one tonight . It is receptionist Gunderman Group is growing. Getting in a groove. Growth is gratifying. Goal is to grow. Gotta get greater growth. I just talked to ups. 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And so theyll get from the videos and from the telemetry data, the timelines and certain critical events relative to their telemetry and this helps them put the picture back together. Reporter the rocket launched at 6 22 eastern time, loaded with 5,000 pounds of cargo headed for the International Space station. This investigation may or may not lead us to the conclusion that the failure was caused by a problem with the antares system. It causes itself to blow up on a signal from mission control. We observed the failure in telemetry and visual and my understanding is the range Safety Officer sent the selfdestruct plan. There is speculation on what may have caused it. It looks like disassembly of the first stage and then it fell to earth. It has been caught the fire ball from many angles. One on a plane in flight and others from miles away. We could feel the heat when it exploded, we could feel the heat from the fire ball three miles away. Reporter officials are only beginning to calculate what is lost in the explosion. The full cost of the rocket and the spacecraft itself is over 200 million. Reporter now orbital expect the Investigation Team to narrow down the handful of most likely causes of the failure in days but it will take longer to zero it on the root cause. And the company said it is too soon to say for sure how soon the next launch might be delayed because of this accident. Thank you very much. Live from wallops island. It is very remote. It is several hours of a drive from maryland to virginia. And tonight a critical piece of orbital science, the company that launched the rocket. They have one piece of the rocket coming into incredible scrutiny, the engines. It turns out they were made out more than 40 years ago by then soviet union scientists. We are not making this up. Tom for man. Reporter or bittal sciences has a 2 billion contract to take things to the space station. That fits perfect laid out by president obama when budget problems pulled back spending. We will work with private companies that will make getting to space easier and more affordable. Reporter yet, this disaster will only intensify the debate about whether private companies can handle such dangerous work while watching the bottom line. Nasa said they have confidence in orbital and they will fully investigate. We will not fly until we understand the root cause and the corrective action necessary to make sure this doesnt happen again. Reporter some say they built the rockets around refurbished russian rockets old. And elan mask, the founder of space x, dismissed orbital. Saying it sounds like a punch line to a joke. It used designs that were made in the 60s. I dont mean the design of the 60s, it is actually from the 60s. And or bittal now said they have plans to drop the russian engines. It is possible we may decide to accelerate this change if the aj 26 turns out to be implicated in the failure but this has not yet been decided. Reporter furthermore, in the two previous flights flew well. And that is where some were saying this is rocket science. Yesterday was a bad day and today we are regrouping but the industry is moving forward and upward. Reporter certainly there is no sign that orbital will lose its deal with the government and even if it does, the government is showing little appetite for jumping directly back into the space race. Preferring to let private Companies Take the lead, and yes, the risk. Erin. Tom, thank you very much. Pretty incredible though. I want to bring in our cnn aviati aviationist, leon brian and mark kelly, who is on the board for space x. You heard elan there and another company that sipds rockets to the space station. And so 40yearold russian engines and this is the new private company masterful way . In a word. No. It doesnt sound like innovation. It sounds like youre going to space in a 60s vul ga instead of a tesla. This technology has withered here. In the 90s there was a big press by the u. S. Government to purchase russian rockets, primarily the larger rd180 to be used in the commercial sector. The ideas behind that was to keep former soviet rocket scientists from pedaling their wares to the likes of north korea. That was a good idea except the commercial sector stopped developing their own alternative engines and so now there is reliance on russians, ironically, to foster this new commercial enterprise with the exception of elan musks space x. He builds his own rockets. And captain kelly, i know you are on the Safety Advisory Board for space x, but this is just surprising i think to a lot of people. I was surprised, you were the first to mention this last night, i dont think people would expect when you have a private Company Using this they are using 40plusyearold sof yet engines soviet engines. They are typically reliable. It is a reliable engine. In this case the aj26, which is a refurbished engine with i think an nk 33 may not be as reliable. Just because the hardware is 40 years old doesnt necessarily mean it is in bad shape. Can you preserve an engine for a long period of time and fly it very successfully. The bottom line is theyll have to do a extensive mishap investigation and figure out the root cause and then fix it. And captain kelly, the Nasa Space Shuttle Program was anded two years ago and now the government spends money to send private companies to the International Space station. So does this explosion scare you . Space x has done four missions to the space station and doing more. Does this explosion, though, scare you . Well it doesnt scare me. As you know, there were no people on board. We lost up to 5,000 pounds of valuable cargo, including some spare parts and food and stuff to support the experiments on board. But this is a risky business. It is very difficult to accelerate a pay load from zero to over 17,000 miles an hour in a couple of minutes. The rockets operate at the extremes of pressure and temperature and rpm of turbo pumps, so no matter how safe we try to make it, we are going to have accidents and we just try to improve it the next time. Miles, is there pressure for these companies now there are so many more of them. You have more companies doing this, that to hit the bottom line, you cut corners . Well, it is tough. I mean, lets face it, they have to make a buck. And it is a business. And you have to square that with safety. And almost always, safety and the amount of money you spend tend to be at odds. And so these are the balances and the tradeoffs that have to be made. It is worth pointing out that over the years, when nasa was literally right there on the Assembly Line telling them how tight to turn the bolts and everything, in the old way of contracting, we had a lot of mishaps. We lost 14 shuttle astronauts and lost three apolo astronauts in a launch pad test in 1967. So it is unsafe all of the time because it is not it is not a routine thing. And anybody who thinks it is routine, hasnt done their homework. Thanks very much to both of you. And outfront next, breaking news, new evidence the top terror leaders survived the airstrikes in syria might be planning attacks. And Ferguson Police chief might be wig willing willing to go. But if the officer is not indicted, will it make any difference. With the investigation, an outfront investigation. I didnt con sent to an interview. Lawmakers and lobbyists together at highend resorts for great weekends. A simple question in retirement, will you have enough money to live life on your terms . 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Now believes the two key khorasan leaders are still alive. Muhsin alfahli the leader of the group and a french jihadist named david drudgean. They have not been talked to since the strike. The u. S. Had never really known if they had gotten them but now the officials are telling pamela and myself that both men are still alive. They may have left the area before the strikes or may have been injured, we dont know. But why is this so important . This is a group that is basically the same as al qaeda core back in pakistan. Many of them moved from pakistan to syria a few years ago. They are a nasty bunch. They have a lot of bombmaking expertise. They know how to make bombs that can potentially get past airport screening and the frej jihadist that they believe is still alive has deep ties in europe and he is able not only to engage in bomb making activity but run operatives back and forth between syria and europe and possibly then on to the United States. That is the big worry and that is why u. S. Intelligence officials are still calling khorasan an imminent threat to the United States. Tonight they know they have to find these men. Erin. Barbara starr, thank you. Pretty sobering. Well tonight the white police chief of ferguson is going to go. Thomas jackson is going to step down to reform the police department. Tensions have been high for months after an unarmed africanamerican was shot and killed by a police officer. But some say the police chief is not going anywhere. And evan, are we getting close to the grand jurys indictment or no indictment, signs pushing to no indictment and there are people in the streets, the attorney general eric holder is weighing in with strong comments. What is he saying . I think the attorney general today did his own to increase pressure on not only on the Ferguson Police chief but on the larger issue which is to reform the Ferguson Police department. This is what he had to say today. I think it is pretty clear that need for a wholesale change in that department is appropriate. Exactly what the forms of that change will be i think well wait until we complete our in choiry. Reporter the message here from the attorney general is he wants not only for the police chief, perhaps, to be removed here, but also that the Department Needs to be reformed in order to better serve this community. And this is all as you said, preparation for the coming of this grand jury decision as to whether or not there will be charges against darren wilson, the officer, and what the reaction on the streets will be. Of course that is the great fair of the tensions rising. Thank you very much. And now paul callin and anthony gray. Paul, you are sitting next to me. The public is waiting on a decision by this grand jury. A lot of people that point, reports are coming out saying that wilson wont be indicted. We wont know until the grand jury comes out. But there is reporting that. Is that a mistake not to indict . Politically it would be better to indict and have a public trial because the public seems to be so upset with a process that has gone on. But i have to say, from the standpoint of the evidence we know about so far, it seems to be falling on the side of the officer. The officers claim, and this is the argument his attorney will make at trial. You have a 61, 300 pound man, Michael Brown, who committed a strong armed robber of a store as he is fleeing an officer and he reaches into the car, struggling with the officer causing the gun to go off. And when the officer gets out and tries to pursue, he turns, and according to the officer, with the outstretched hands says what are you going to do, shoot me and now that outstretched hand is said to be a surrender. But there might be seven africanamerican witnesses who back his version. Now i dont know what really happened in the grand jury. It is in secret. But if that is the case, you cant win that case at trial. Anthony, you obviously believe an indictment is just . No doubt about it. No doubt about it. And you know, it is just interesting to hear these different versions of events as to what transpired on that day. I like to go back to the initial witness statements that were spontaneous when they were given and not coordinated in any way. We saw that in video tapes moments after the shooting took place. They seem to describe something that was clearly criminal in nature and because of the criminal nature of what they described, i think that an indictment should have been proper right then and there. However, they went through the grand jury process and it looks as though they are trying to have a trial in a grand jury, as opposed to a probable cause finding and that is the reason we have so much time transpire but clearly in this case i think an indictment would be proper. And when you talk about them coming out spon tabusually, they did come out a few days after in which there was a strong outcry and a strong public point of view. There certainly was a point of view there . It is not as if they came out before there was a public outcry with that . Well that might be. But im speaking of number one when Dorian Johnson gave his interview, that was the day of. And that was the young man with Michael Brown. Yes. Exactly. Who was standing right there with him. You had two construction workers who were being video taped unbeknownst to them though made spontaneous reactions they just saw minutes before the video tape was rolling. If you just take those three different eyewitness accounts of what happened, you have enough information right there to determine there was a crime. But you know, what have you to consider is this. The reason you have secret grand jury proceedings is so witnesses will not be afraid to come forward. Now if this report is true, that there are seven africanamerican jurors who witnesses. Witnesses, would they have come forward publicly given the public opinion, which was totally in favor of Michael Brown and against the officer. By having a proceeding in the grand jury, they were able to maintain their anonymity, they are not doing press conferences and maybe the grand jury got to see testimony we havent seen. I dont know. It may turn out to be different and maybe these are false reports but i think we have to wait until the grand jury hands down the decision. And this is all being decided by witnesses because that is all you have in Something Like this and there wasnt a video camera in the police car so it is it is witnesses determining this. And so what im confused about is if you have a few witnesses, not even a majority backing Michael Browns story, why wouldnt you just have it go to a trial . And that is my point exactly. Because even if you have varying views and different types of perspectives in what they saw, that is all designed to be sorted out in a trial proceeding. That is not to be sorted out in a probable cause grand jury process. And that is what ive been advocating and basically saying all the time. And it just seems to me, regardless of what people know to be the actual process, we have gotten off on to this other track and we are basically having a trial in secrecy over what happened on august 9th as opposed to the original process. There is nothing unusual about what is going on, it is just that it is so highprofile that it is being covered. It is. And next, lawmakers and lobbyists, weekends together, golf and ski trips. And does this hitchcock scene look familiar to you . Did you go out with friends . Well a boys best friend is his mother. Coming up jeanne moos on another famous scene from psycho. Financial noise financial noise financial noise introducing synchrony financial. 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And on the eastern shore, this cabin isnt bad. Posh golf down the street and a twilight Cocktail Party with some of your good friends. On the days we visited, the center of attention at these lush resorts is a politician holding a fundraiser. What want to hob nob with duncan summer, that is him in the sunglasses, the suggested contribution, 2500. And want to kbofl with ben cardin, that is him in the pink shirt. The suggested contribution, 5,000. And as we found out from our undercover cameras, at the cocktail parties and golf outings, there is no shortage of lobbyists willing to pay for the chance to weekend with a lawmaker. It is basically corrupt. And it is legalized corruption. Former colorado senator tim worth is disgusting with the way lawmakers continually come up with clever ways of extracting money from anyone who wants to buy washington access. When rules changed and lobbyist could no longer take politicians on trips, politicians and their fundraisers designed a brand new scheme, organize the trips and invite the lobbyist as long to pay for it. We found that out last winter. Snowbird resort utah where senator mike lee invited lobbyists to join him for a weekend on the slopes. The cost, pay your own way, pay your own hotel, and pay make that donate a suggested 1500 per person for a chance to ski, drink and lunch with a caughtoffguard senator. Why so important. You are not the only guy that does this. I didnt consent to an interview. I want to ask you questions why you have these in general, why you have these kind of weekends for lobbyists . Politicians raise funds and this is what we do. Take for instance, congressman Duncan Hunter and his cozy Cocktail Party in laguna beach. It turns out luxurious weekends like this are nothing new for Duncan Hunter who has been doing this ever since he first decided to run for his fathers seat back in 2007. Expense reports filed with the federal Election Commission show around two dozen payments to hotels all over Southern California since his first election campaign. Congressman hunter declined our request for an interview, been an aide sent an email saying the congressman holds events of all types in many different ven use and People Choose to support him or dont. Simple as that. And by the way, the staffer also told us they got the hotel rooms for less than 500 a night, not 1,000. And as for senator cardib in maryland who is not up for reelection, he turned us down for an interview too. But he said the money went to other candidates and cardin is a sponsor of Campaign Finance reform, presumably to put some sort of end to posh fundraising parties like this one. Pame hobn they like to say others should not do it, but no one ever says no. Yeah, and why dont they . It is because, erin, theyre essentially trapped in their partys money, the system, whether you need it or not. He doesnt need the money but he needs the money to feed into, in his case, the Democratic Party which demands it of him. The republicans do the same thing. You want to pay for access, pay for power in washington . You have to keep that money flowing. Right after the election, erin, to show you how it never stops. Right after the election, for about 3,000, and the weekend, you can spend it with a very prominent senator at disney world if you so choose. Wow, i cant think of a worst way to spend the weekend. All right, well continue to put that up, i think it is interesting. Up next, jeanne moos, with a pumpkin carving incident at a whole new level. It hugs you. [jeffery] i dont have to think about how to get comfortable anymore. 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Hey, erin, we have a lot more on breaking news, a nurse, kaci hickox, returning from west africa, and quarantined. She came out of her house and made a statement. Well bring that to you. And well also speak to her attorney, steven hymin, as well as jeffrey toobin. Also, one person recording secret incidents of being harassed by men making lewd comment, all sorts of comments. She is speaking out to me, more on ridiculist. And now, a marvel of film editing for its time in 1960, still a marvel, being recreated using pumpkins just in time for the week. Here is jeanne moos. Reporter Alfred Hitchcock has never been presented like this. Carved in a pumpkin that might drive him psycho. In honor of halloween there is a new take on that famous shower scene. Matched practically frame for frame right down to the shower rings and shower head, carved in pumpkin by this brooklyn artist. If there is somebody out there who has carved more shower tiles than i have, i would like to meet them. Reporter she sat here for a couple of weeks carving 30 frames from the classic scene, frames like the one showing marion cranes eye. She carved us a new eye, ouch sorry, marion. Reporter she calls her threeminute video psycholantern, she is no pumpkin waster, she did the entire film by carving three scenes per pumpkin. I was trying to model it with pumpkin slaughter. Reporter last halloween she first got the idea to do the carved pumpkins, but they were sold out so she did it this year. Normally her art is with ships on eggs. But carving a bloody hand . So much spookier. At the end, she carved herself holding a pumpkin. Like this. And offering it to him. Reporter offering it to hitchco hitchcock, do you like long showers . As a matter of fact i do. Reporter you need a long shower to wash off all that pumpkin, but pumpkin sure beats blood circling the drain. Jeanne moos, cnn, new york. Pretty amazing talent, though, well be right back. Means keeping seven billion ctransactions flowing. 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