What point they are able to make it role. Here is the white house statement on this. The president takes the health and safety of himself and everyone who works in support of him and the American People very seriously. White house operations collaborates with the physician to the president and the White House Military Office to ensure all plans and procedures incorporate current cdc guidance and best practices for limiting covid19 exposure to the greatest extent possible both on complex and when the president is traveling. That is a lot of words to explain away what we know. This president is cavalier when he goes to rallies about whether people should have masks, about socially distancing. He supposedly had his staff doing things the right way because he was worried about himself and they get tested all the time and they do Contact Tracing when there is a case. But hope hicks is often seen without a mask and now our president at a time during an election has been in close proximity to someone who tested positive. The time line doesnt make a lot of sense. Lets bring in our white house correspondent. Thank you for joining us on such short notice. Wednesday night we are told that they became aware that hope hicks was sick. So shes with the president. She tests positive after theyre together . In minnesota . Or was she tested before and they got the results and they say but she was quarantined on the plane. So that timeline is odd. You know, if they knew she had covid before, then she wouldnt have gone. If they found out while she was there, she was then quarantined. The timeline doesnt make sense. What do you know . Reporter that timeline does not make sense and were still reporting it out to figure out exactly when this test was administered because if that was the case and she didnt find out until they were already on their way to minnesota last night, that would mean theyre testing people later in the day and not as weve been told first thing in the morning basically as soon as they walk in the door if they are going to be around the president. So of course it just goes to show you that despite this white house repeated insistence everyone is fine, they dont need to wear a mask or social distance because theyre tested every day, it shows you the dangers of that. No you we have learned, you know, this is one of the closest people to the president. Hope hicks is about as close as it gets and has been constantly around the president this week, flying him to minnesota last night where you are on an enclosed airplane not Wearing Masks not social distancing but also in cleveland on tuesday night she was there for the debate. She helped the president with debate prep as he was getting ready to go there. She has been on several other trips he has taken recently all where weve seen videos of her boarding marine 1 not wearing a mask. In the west wing not wearing a mask. All of these situations that of course the main question is has this put the president s health at risk 30 days from the election. So those are the questions were still trying to figure out the timeline of exactly when this happened but we were told today the officials who had been around her were notified she had tested positive. Now, kaitlan, a couple things. One, this is information that we really should have gotten from them and before now. Theyve known since wednesday night that the president has had his worst risk of exposure yet 24 hours later and it had to be leaked out. So that is a concern. Have you heard anything about her condition and whether she is symptomatic . We are told by one source that she is experiencing symptoms. She is here back in washington were told but of course the extent of that is still not known what are those symptoms, how bad are they . But it does go to show you that it is not one of those cases where she is asymptomatic and then of course only found out because of the white house testing system. That is how it is obviously confirmed. We are told by one person that she does in fact have coronavirus symptoms. And look. You can be contagious if you dont have symptoms, what we call asymptomatic obviously. But if you have symptoms, it then raises questions, you know, was she coughing, were they in proximity when she was doing it. Again, this is not a blame game. I know i speak for you and all of us. I hope hope hicks has a mild case and her youth and vitality gets her through it quickly and i dont think anybody else should worry about anything else except the president now is on his way to wisconsin, right . Does this change that plan at all . Reporter well, those are the big questions. I mean, the president had this dinner he attended tonight, or a dinner he had scripted remarks for and before that he went to a fundraiser today and behind closed doors. We did not see the president while he was there but he was interacting with people so it didnt halt his travel schedule today to go to that. Of course he has another rally i am scheduled to go to in orlando tomorrow night and then wisconsin this weekend. Of course those rallies have raised questions given rising cases inside the state. And so this just the big question is also does it change the president s travel schedule here and does it change this Comfort Level in the west wing . Because before when we reported first that the president ial valet tested positive it threw people off. Then the top security aide. This is really close to the president and is hard to over state. Hope hicks someone who spends an enormous amount of time oneonone with the president not wearing a mask has tested positive. The white house is giving us this generic statement tonight talking about Health Precautions they take when it comes to the president but they are not giving any other details and have been reluctant to do so ever since we first reported on the valet testing positive. Theyve only confirmed other aides testing positive when the president himself has blurted it out in press briefings or has been asked about it. There is a lot we dont know and the white house has not been forthcoming about but we have confirmed this through other methods that she has tested positive and to see whether this does change things inside the white house and whether the president continues to make these trips despite knowing aides sitting next to him on airforce one could be positive for coronavirus. Were showing this group shot as they went into marine 1. Nobody has a mask. Why does it become relevant . Its not a gotcha contest. Do me a favor and stay with us and lets bring in dr. William schaffner. The reason it matters of course that theyre not Wearing Masks is now you have to worry about who got exposed to hope hicks. Especially if she is symptomatic. You can be asymptomatic and be contagious but you are certainly contagious if you are symptomatic. Now why do we question the travel schedule . First of all travel reduces your immune system especially all that flying. And we dont know who can be around him because we dont know who has it because you may not test positive right away. Am i getting the immediate concerns right, doctor . Yeah, you certainly are, chris. I wish miss hicks well. We want everyone who gets infected with this virus to get better as quickly as possible. But this is another example where it demonstrates testing does not prevent infection. They do a lot of testing in the white house but you need to wear the mask. Testing detects infection. You need to wear the mask in air force 1, in the white house at all times. When you get into these large groups whether fundraisers or large rallies, i promise you the virus is there and is being transmitted. Now, the interesting thing is, everyone who is associated with miss hicks in the recent past should be quarantined at home and stay at home and not go out anywhere. That would be routine Public Health process. Well see if it gets done in the white house. Context. Kaitlan if you identify other people but if they were with her whoever else. The close quarters crew. If they were around hope hicks and she tested positive and she had no mask on, youre saying that those people should not be by the president s side. They should be in their own homes and quarantined. Yes, doctor . Everyone who was in close contact with her recently should now be sheltering at home. Recently meaning . Within the last week for sure. Wow. The last week. Any indication from the white house that they are planning to have anyone else quarantined . Reporter no. Weve gotten zero indication of that. I should note also the fact that hope hicks was on air force 1 last night she is not someone who often interacts with the media certainly not in a public way where she would come back to the press cabin like other officials typically do but she is on the same plane with these reporters sharing the same air space and yet the white house did not inform the reporters on air force 1 that an official tested positive for coronavirus. Obviously that would typically be a protocol if you worked in any other kind of situation or if you took a delta flight you would expect them to let you know if someone sitting in row 14 had tested positive but that is not the indication we got from the white house. Of course it is raising questions about that and whether or not the other aides, some of the aides we saw getting on marine 1 yesterday we also saw going with the president today on his trip. That is another question we still have to figure out is exactly what their protocol is firstdegr going to be if anything with this. You had 24 hours they didnt say anything. We can only surmise why they wanted to keep it quiet but by doing so people who may have been exposed to hope hicks, and again, this is not hopes fault. I know people will take issue with the mask. She should have been responsible and wearing it. There is a report in the New York Times that an official says she is one of the only ones who occasionally does wear a mask but she has it now and by not telling who knows how many media or whoever else she was in contact with in the last 24 hours have gone about their own normal lives and other people may be at risk. Fair consideration or concern, doctor . For sure, chris. This is not a model of a vigorous, insightful Public Health investigation. You want to notify people immediately. Tell them to shelter at home. Well start their testing process. And watch what happens. We need to prevent the further transmission of the virus. That is routine public practice and what would be done in nashville. Were you on that trip, kaitlan . Reporter no, i wasnt. I am going on the trip tomorrow. So of course it just raises questions for our colleagues because weve been really vigilant here in the White House Press corps about this. We wear masks inside the building, of course inside the briefings. On air force 1 despite being tested also that day reporters keep their masks on when they are on the way to and from the rallies so you see a difference level of caution. As you said it is a highly contagious disease. That is what the medical experts have told us and why people say you should wear a mask even though youve got all these other precautions you just never know. That is also going to be a question of whether or not it changes that attitude. Ive been back in the west wing for a few meetings recently. People back there are not Wearing Masks because they develop this level of comfort because they get tested. This is likely something that is going to really jolt them awake to see someone they interact with and work with and meet with has tested positive. Well, look. Youre smart, young, and strong. So the chances are if you did get it youd be okay but, you know, listen to your old friend here, you dont want it if you can avoid it. Stay vigilant. Doctor, our concerns for the president. He had to have been in close contact with her period. I wont accept any other explanation. There is no way that close an adviser was nowhere near him during any kind of window that is relevant. So what is supposed to be done for and with this president . Well, if the president were a normal person they would stay at home. They would their symptoms would be monitored. They would be tested periodically. And it would be sure then to shelter him from others so he doesnt potentially transmit this infection to others. You dont know whether all the contacts including the president may have become positive because it will take a number of days before that test becomes positive. And so during that period of time, you want to take yourself out of circulation so you dont infect yet a next generation of people. Its elementary Public Health practice. And so the idea of going to rallies and having some of the same staff still moving around, new populations, is defacto irresponsible. Not the thing to do. In fact, it is exactly the wrong thing to do. Because whenever you get into a crowd, or bring others into a crowd, obviously this highly contagious virus, this is not a political statement, the virus doesnt care. This is a simple Public Health statement. The virus will spread. And i promise you in these large rallies the virus is there. Its contagious. Its spreading. Just as sure as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west thats correct. All right. Dr. William schaffner, thank you very much. With any luck the president does not get sick. We dont hear about any other cases. We dont need any more drama right now. Do you have anything else . Reporter well keep you updated on what else were learning about the timeline on when this happened and other details but so far this is what weve got that she has tested positive. Thank you very much. The timeline doesnt make sense in this situation. She went with the president on wednesday. Wednesday night they say they knew she was positive. Well assume that is true because i cant believe theyd have let her go on the trip if they had known hope hicks was positive. Wouldnt be healthy for her or others around her. When did they find out . We knew wednesday night. When did she get tested . They say they get tested in the morning. They waited all day with the kind of resources they need . Thats unusual. That needs clarification. What does that mean to all the people around hope hicks . What does it mean for the president . What does it mean if he continues to go out and they dont know whether he has it. I mean, this is one, singular leader that we have. One president we have. During an Election Year in the middle of a pandemic with social unrest and a failing economy. If nothing else he has to be healthy. This is not a time for secrets. We will stay on this breaking news. Try to make more sense of it because the timeline doesnt make sense. Okay . Now we get a window into why it doesnt make sense because often things are hidden. And often things are scripted. The way this president wants. We have the good fortune of having the president s niece to talk about what she knows about him. By the way, she happens to be a psychologist. So by training and experience, what is her window of perspective into why these things are handled this way . Her take on the debate the other night and what we saw in her uncle. And what he might really be capable of in terms of the control of this election. Mary trump here next. People everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to whats possible with rybelsus®. You are my sunshine, my only sunshine. Rybelsus® works differently than any other diabetes pill to lower blood sugar in all 3 of these ways. Increases insulin. Decreases sugar. And slows food. The majority of people taking rybelsus® lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than 7. People taking rybelsus® lost up to 8 pounds. Rybelsus® isnt for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. Dont take rybelsus® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. Stop rybelsus® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. 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For this president to get sick especially as a by product of his own negligence making masks not a must, none of them had masks on, on the video we see of the cadre with him including hope hicks into marine 1. Helicopter small. Then obviously a massive plane but in close quarters with him. This is why it matters. This is why responsibility has to start at the top. It is not a scolding. Its pleading. Please wear a mask when your a he in proximity to people. The president s refusal to do so i hope it doesnt cost him right now. It certainly cost us. Another of the president s refusal to cover, if i get any new information on the coronavirus case ill give it to you immediately, but i want to address the president s refusal to forcefully condemn racism. White supremacy. It is now having an effect of fanning the flames of hate. The proud boys if you havent heard already literally were jumping up and down and celebrating and creating paraphernalia, swag off of the president s tacit approval of their existence within his camp. Why couldnt he just say, proud boys, youre disgusting. Youre the worst of us. I do not want you in my ranks . Why . Why couldnt he say that . Im against anyone who mistreats other human beings. Why . Lets ask someone who knows him better than any of us. She is family. His only niece. Mary trump. Just wrote a best seller on how the trump family created, quote, the worlds most dangerous man. Too much and never enough. The author joins us now. Welcome back to primetime mary. Hi chris. Thanks for having me back. So help us. You are also a psychologist. People should know that. So he has a pattern. David duke, never heard of him. Okay. Now that we just told you who he is which is almost impossible to believe that you didnt know what do you think of him supporting you . Oh, i dont know. I dont what kind of answer is that . An easy one. A layup in politics. David duke . Hate him. Dont want anything to do with him. Get away from me. Charlottesville. Both sides good people. You know it. You know it. No we didnt know it. Now the proud boys. Well, yeah. I tell them, stand back. Stand by. You better talk about antifa. Why . Why this reluctance . What do you think is going on with how he sees it . Well, first of all, i see a progression. He used to hedge his bets and be a little bit more careful. I didnt see him being careful the other night. I experienced that phrase stand back and stand by as an order. But we didnt understand what he was ordering them to do until later in the debate when he called on his people to show up at polls to make sure that fraud wasnt committed or something but thats called voter intimidation. So that is alarming. Quite simply though his inability to condemn them is that he is a white supremacist on the one hand. On the other hand, he doesnt care what kind of racism they engage in because they support him. Thats all he cares about. You know, i heard him at a rally. He pointed out one of his supporters. I guess the guy must have been big and hes like look at this guy. No one is going to fight with you. Thats for sure. He has a tough guy talk aspect from time to time. Grab that guy. Knock the s out of him. That kind of stuff. Do you really believe that he has within his character the ability to let people be violent on his behalf . Oh, yeah. And thats because he is so incredibly weak in his own right. Hes absolutely capable of that. You dont talk like that lightly especially when you have the kind of power he has. Everything he says is magnified a million fold. People listen to him. This is not an accident. He is doing it intentionally. I wish there were more pushback, because this is dangerous. You know, where mary and i grew up not far from each other in queens we actually know some of the same people, there are a lot of people who talk smack there. You come up on me ill blah, blah, blah. All that smack talk. That is what ive always dismissed his as, but naugow th combination of him saying i think the election is rigged which we both know intellectually he cant believe. Nobody gives him a substantive basis for that. He is getting the governor of texas to follow suit. Well talk about that later in the show. But that with going easy on the proud boys plus i want you at the polls is a scary recipe he is coming up with there. No . It is incredible this is happening in america. And that his entire party says nothing. You know, we are on the edge of a cliff here. And every elected republican seems to be willing to go over that cliff. Its very difficult at this point to understand, given the seriousness of all of the situations you mentioned earlier. We find ourselves in between covid and the civic strife, the economy, and now his threatening of free and fair election, i dont think people understand how bad this is going to get. I dont say that to scare people away. I say it because we need to go into this with our eyes wide open and understand that the only reason he is stirring up this nonsense about the Election Results being a fraud essentially if he doesnt win is because he knows how powerful your vote is. So thats the only reason he is doing it. For those who havent read the book yet, what we saw at the debate the other night or whatever you want to call it, the debase as ive been calling it, was a portrait right from marys book of what he is capable of, how he respects rules, how he respects any kind of standard. How he will not allow someone to compete with him. Its not good enough to win. He literally has to sabotage any kind of competition. It was right in the book. But that is very different than he may not do a peaceful transfer of power. That he may not respect the outcome of an election. That is hard to fathom. Do you believe that is in the realm of possibility that he could be told, look. Its over. We lost, and he might say, im not going, lets, you know, get our people. Lets go . You know, i think it depends upon a couple different things. The margin of a Biden Victory for example and when we get the results, which hopefully will be soon. But i absolutely believe that in most scenarios he will refuse to accept the results of the election to which i say, so what . Its not up to him. The results are the results. The danger is in exactly what you just said. What will other people who support him do . Especially the department of justice. Thats the big concern. All of these former staffers. Yes. Literally hundreds of them came out to say were worried about bill barr manipulating the system to help him. That is something well have to watch. Lets do this. Lets take a break. I appreciate your patience by the way. Obviously the breaking news created a different schedule for us. Lets come back. I got to get your take on the taxes. You have a lot of information, youve been a party to litigation about finances within the family. What did you make of what was in there and what is your perspective . It would be tremendously helpful to the audience. Mary trump, please stay with us. M to customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need . Really . I didnt aah ok. Im on vibrate. Aaah only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Four years behind us. To end the anger, the insults, the division. And start fresh in america. I dont pledge allegiance to red states of america or blue states of america. I pledge allegiance to the United States of america. Im gonna fight as hard for those who supported me as those who did not support me. We have a chance to put anger and division that has overtaken this country behind us. And we can. Weve done it so many times in our history. We begun anew. We can get control of this virus. We can reward work. We can make healthcare affordable. We can be a safe and just nation. We can deal with the existential threat of climate change. We can be what we are at our best. One nation, one people, one america. Im joe biden and i approve this message. More dangerous and corrupt president than trump. Hes harming our basic values, giving rise to hate, and hes selling out america to big corporations. Im working to protect immigrants, women, communities of color, and lgbtq people. And im making corporations like pg e and Insurance Companies play by our rules. We need experienced leadership to wipe away trumps stain on america for good. All right. Were back with the president s niece mary trump who is also a psychologist who patiently waited tonight because we had breaking news. Hope hicks very close adviser to the president of the United States has contracted covid. Supposedly the white house has known about this for over 24 hours. They didnt alert the media even though she was in contact with the media. We dont know what theyve done in terms of her quarantine. Supposedly she is at home. A source says she is experiencing symptoms. I am sorry to hear that and i hope she gets over it quickly as possible. What is the larger concern . She is young and strong. The president is not. They had to have been in close contact. Are they quarantining him . Have they tested him . Do we have a result they can share . These are very important questions especially in light of the fact that the president is supposedly scheduled to go to other rallies. Should he go . And expose more people if we dont know whether or not he has it . And just because he doesnt test positive today is not enough. As we know from the science of it now. What about the other staffers and who else she was around . So this is a significant concern. This is the closest this virus has gotten to the president as far as we know. Again, transparency is an issue. Speaking of which the president s taxes, big New York Times report actually a series of them. Mary trump intimately familiar with the family situation and problems with the taxes. First question for you, mary, when asked, is it true that you only paid 750 in federal taxes over the past two years he said, ive paid millions in taxes. My guess is he is slipping the question by saying just in general hes paid so much. You have intimate information about what he pays and what he doesnt. Do you believe that that he has paid millions in taxes and that if anything the 750 was an anomaly, an outlier . I believe every word in that brilliant New York Times investigative report. Suzanne craig and russ muten are the best at what they do. Also hat tip to Mike Mcintyre whom i dont know. This latest story dovetails perfectly with the other extraordinary reporting they did two years ago, totally exposing the myth that donald was a selfmade man who received practically no money from his father when indeed over the course of his life he received in excess of 411 million plus whatever he inherited. So donned can obfuscate all he wants but when it comes down to it he is going to have to make a choice. Either he admits to the American People that he is an utterly failed businessman whos never been able to make a profit or he admits to tax fraud. It is going to be a very interesting to see which choice he makes. He says, look, the system is what it is and you pay accountants to figure out ways around it and that is a goal most taxpayers have and if anybody is to blame it is obama because he set up the code the way it was which allowed him to exploit it. Fine. Another question is how he values things. This is something you had experience with. Do you believe that it is possible that he would exaggerate the value to a lender and exaggerate it down by minimizing it to the tax folks . Of course. You know, this has been a long standing pattern in my family. It started with my grandfather just as the idea of paying consulting fees socalled started with my grandfather. He paid consulting fees through a fake entity called all county to his four surviving children just as donald allegedly paid or not allegedly i guess it is in the tax returns paid in excess of 770,000 to ivanka when she was actually an employee. So it doesnt i have no doubt in my mind that thats whats going on. Now, you filed a week ago a lawsuit accusing the president and his siblings of committing fraud to deprive you of your interest in the family real estate business. How much of what you are alleging in the lawsuit due see being echoed in the current scenario with his taxes and frankly in his presidency . It is very similar. You know, i was in a vulnerable position 20 years ago visavis the family and the Family Business i had inherited 10 when my dad died i got half of his share and, you know, pretty much was kept in the dark most of my life as to what any of that meant. So when it came time to settle a lawsuit i had engaged in back after my grandfather died they valued those properties at such a low level it was literally a very small fraction of what i was entitled to. So again, it is just another pattern. For the people watching us and obviously thinking you got to understand this guy better than we do, what is your biggest concern surrounding the election and what behavior your uncle is capable of . I think we saw a glimpse of it in the debate. He was i believe he went in with a tactic which was to interrupt. He clearly had memorized his talking points attacks. He clearly believed that hammering on the lies about hunter biden was a good way to get Vice President biden off his game. But he also went into that debate knowing about this article that had just come out. So in using those tactics, he got to point where he couldnt control himself anymore. That debate felt like an assault on the American People, and there is nothing to suggest that, you know, he is going to have any reason to rein himself in over the next five weeks, because lets face it. Things are going to continue getting worse for him. And he will, i know this sounds hieber bollic, but donald piper bollic, but donald will do whatever he needs to do in order to protect himself no matter what happens to the rest of us. When you say he is annihilist you are saying there is no higher value for him than his own satisfaction. He is not burdened by any principle other than his own satisfaction. You talk in the book about whether it was how he was raised and how he is himself and how he cultivated himself you believe he gets to the point pretty easily in behavior where there is no more limit for him. Hell lie about anything, say whatever it is and hell do whatever he can do. Yeah, because he knows the difference between right and wrong but if its good for him it cant possibly be wrong. And also, you know, if he feels threatened, if he feels like he is going down hell take everybody else down with him. You know he has been talking again about other countries, north african countries and how theyll be flooded with refugees in minnesota. You know, an interesting argument to make there. They did have early experience in that state with ethiopian refugees and how theyve become integrated in the community and what its meant plus and minuses so there is a sensitivity there to be sure. How much of that is politics and how much do you believe is deep seated bigotry in your uncle . There is always deep seated bigotry for sure. But it became a political strategy as soon as he recognized during the republican primary how well it played with a significant minority in this country and then when he continued to experience absolutely no pushback from his party, he does what donald does and he continued to double down. And now its the campaign strategy. I tell you what, i havent seen members of his party fight as hard for anything as they do to stay out of his way. Got to see that on the show last night with senator ted cruz. Mary trump, thank you very much for joining us. Author of too much and never enough how my family created the worlds most dangerous man. Thank you for being with us tonight and thank you for your patience in the midst of this breaking news that one of the president s closest advisers, hope hicks, has contracted coronavirus. Were also told she is experiencing symptoms. There is a messy timeline about when they say they found out which was last night so they didnt tell us anything for 24 hours until it leaked. This did not come from the white house. They had to respond to it. We will stay on it. What does it mean for the president . Will he selfquarantine . For the first time in decades, texas is in play in a president ial election. All right . So now whats going on . Controversial moves. There are already two court cases that seem designed to limit access to voting there. Two good rulings for the governors efforts to do just that. Now he wants to squeeze down, he wants to have one ballot drop box in a county that has millions of people in it. How is that keeping them safe . You want all those people trying to get to one drop box . Is this really just active Voter Suppression in the name of this president s wishes . My next guest will make the case to you. She runs the biggest county in texas. 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Less than two weeks before early voting begins there. By executive order, each county is now limited to just one drop box. So what could this mean . Keep in mind five texas counties are larger than the states of rhode island and delaware combined. Okay . It is in a place like brewster county. It creates a situation where you would have to drive three hours to the county clerks office. Then its not just about distance. Its about density. Harris county for example is home to more than 26 of these United States. Home to more people than 26 of the states. Thats the context. Thats the potential impact. Now lets talk about what can be done. Judge lena hidalgo is the chief executive for harris county. Thank you for joining us. Good to join you, chris. Argument counterargument. Argument from the state is covid. Cant be having people goe everywhere. Too much spread. Got to limit it. This is how we do it. Chris, there is no reason for this decision to limit us to one dropoff location other than Voter Suppression. The way this works is you show up, in fact several of our locations are drive through. You show up. You meet an employee of the clerks office. They verify your i. D. They verify your signature. And you leave your sealed ballot. This is a secure process. It is a safe process. If theyre saying that this puts people at risk of covid then why did this stand in the way of letting us send mailin ballot applications to our voters . Theres been a capris ensive effort by the state comprehensive effort by the state all along from voter roll privileges to keeping us from sending mailin applications and to suppress the vote in the state and also in the largest county in texas which as you said has 5 Million People almost. 34 cities and is almost the size of colorado in population. Six texas counties have populations of over a Million People. Four of those six voted for clinton in 2016. Just to lay it out as context. Back to the states argument, no, judge, the only thing we want to suppress is covid and fraud. You have to, 65 and older okay because they are so vulnerable. Everybody else you cant just get a freebie these writein ballots, they cant validate the signatures. They always have problems. We had 100,000 of them thrown out in texas, rather, 550,000 absentee ballots rejected in the primary. Rife with fraud. These arent just dropoff mailbox on some road somewhere. These are county offices and annexes that have been very thoroughly run. Its just as secure as voting at an election day look, at an early vote location. Its just more convenient. And, look, its not lost on me, and i dont think its lost on the people of this county that there are people in austin and there are people in washington, d. C. Who are terrified to see the electoral changes that are taking place in texas and that are taking place in harris county, and so theyre doing everything they can to keep people from participating. But i ask anyone whos on the fence about voting, if these leaders truly are doing right by you, why are they so afraid of you voting . Im reminding our residents here in harris county, our citizens, that we are not to be intimidated. That this is a time to participate, and, yes, its gonna be harder and, yes, theyre trying to confuse and theyre trying to suppress the vote, but for that very reason, we need to show everyone whos watching that were going to participate because its about democracy. Senator ted cruz said last night, no it isnt. Its dirty politics. You democrats are weaponizing this pandemic, especially in texas, and you want people to be afraid and to think that people are out to get them and youre going to encourage people to do anything they can to stuff ballots and we cant have that. Weve worked so hard with the state throughout this pandemic. When its time of disaster, it also means that we put our partisanship aside, that we Work Together to put out this fire. Thats been my attitude all throughout this crisis. But this issue of Voter Suppression is just its not only sad, its dangerous. Its dangerous because democracy depends on our participation, and i do think, you know, as youre comparing this to covid, i do think there is some parallel there in obfuscating and confusing and not having a clear path forward. I wish they would put as much attention into fighting the virus as theyre putting into suppressing the vote of people. Look, these voter dropoff sites, theyre all over harris county. Theyre not in democratic areas only. Theyre in all areas. There to help all people. And all people in this county should be able to vote. Voting should be easier, safe, secure, efficient, in the time of covid, careful, and were doing that. But this is very obviously, you know, 30 days before the election, its very, very obviously about confusing people who already were planning on dropping off their ballots at these locations and about suppressing the vote. What can you do, judge . What can you do and will it happen fast enough . Yeah, its tough, you know . So the order comes into effect tomorrow. We have to close 11 of the 12 voting locations or dropoff locations because we dont want to risk anybody dropping off their ballots and then, you know, disenfranchising them. You cant ask for an injunction . Were working with lawyers to see what steps we can take. I mean, there was an argument in the court of appeal that was just the court just upheld yesterday, saying that you cant make changes so close to an election. So this is a pretty big change. Its a pretty big change. So thats one of the things were looking into, but for now, having employees at all the sites, directing folks to the one that exists, to usps branches and then reminding people and reminding folks around the country that this is not rhetoric from the president. This is on the ground suppression that is happening in our democracy. And its happening right here in the heart of texas. And i think very clearly we know why. These folks are afraid of people voting them out. If this is a suppressive move and seen as so in the eyes of the law then maybe the president is right, maybe Election Fraud is real because this would fall under that category. Judge lina hidalgo, thank you very much. Please keep us aware of your efforts. We will stay on the story. Thank you. 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We were supposed to have dr. Anthony fauci tonight, but we agreed with the white house, the president was going out and giving an interview tonight. Theres no reason to have an official counterprogramming the president. Its a fair accommodation. Tomorrow night, dr. Anthony fauci is going to have a huge bunch of time on this show with us to discuss what matters to you. Where do things stand in this country . What is being addressed and what isnt . What is the truth about the vaccine and when we can look forward to it and what reservations there still are . Okay . For me, two big issues, schools. Why are we screwing our kids the way we are . Why arent they changing the plan . Why arent they changing the accommodations, at least helping these schools learn to trace cases . How many stories have you heard of one, two cases, whole school shuts down . Society cant exist that way. We have to be more intelligent about it. Why isnt that happening . And he understands that it cant just be the states. The cdc data. The resources. The understanding. The ability to coordinate response and learn from different situations. The federal government has to do that. Then long haulers, okay . This group is growing so fast you can find it all over the internet. You can go on the facebook. Youll see people coming together because theres nowhere else to go. How aware is the doctor of it . What does he think should happen about it . Now, of course, we have some urgent concerns about whats going on with people around the president. Does he know that everything is being done to keep our commander in chief safe . So, tomorrow night, dr. Fauci, big block of time to go over everything that matters so we know where things stand. I hope you join us, okay . Favorite time of the night. Time for cnn tonight with its big star, don lemon. So, we have some breaking news, chris cuomo, and something that you would know all about because you actually had covid yourself. What . Still dealing with the longterm effects of it, but its actually pretty serious. What if i told you that the president of the United States is awaiting a covid test because he may have been exposed to covid by hope hicks . That he has had a test and theyre waiting. And heres the big thing, he may selfquarantine. He and the first lady. What if i told you that . First of all, responsible. And that is the protocol