President s planning. And what does it mean that Bernie Sanders is out of the race . What does it mean to this governor that Bernie Sanders is out of the race . His personal political fortunes. Its worth asking, right . Were also hearing from the white house on where the next hot spots could be. Thats an open question. Heres what we know right now. No matter where the virus goes, the way to stop it will always be the same. Our collective, conscientious actions. Staying home. Like i said, it is a special night. A sweet passover to my jewish brothers and sisters. Together, as ever, as one, lets get after it. All right, here are the answers to the wheres next. Philadelphia, washington, d. C. , we understand that the White House Task force is monitoring those two major metropolitan areas closely, why . Because they are mayor metropolitan areas. That means that you have travel hubs and density. When you have that, this virus will spread if people arent maniacal in their commitment to keep it from happening. The equation has gotten as simple to understand as that. What happens when you dont do it . Look at new york. 779 more precious lives lost in just the last 24 hours. What is the reality of what these numbers mean for new york today beyond . Theres lots to cover with the governor of new york, andrew cuomo. I wish you a blessed passover, governor. Happy passover to you, brother. Next year in jerusalem, right . Thats right. That that is the hope. And certainly, it is going to really resound with people differently this year, a lot of people are doing zoom seders, because they cant be in close contact. What is your message . When you and i say our jewish brothers and sisters, we mean it. We have jews in our family, jews in our blood in our nieces. What is the message to the faithful this year about what passover means . Well, i think it is the message of passover resonates totally, right . The first part is to learn the lessons from the past, and pass them onto a new generation, to remember what we learned. And the second part of the message is a message of hope. It can be better, it will be better next year. I have to tell you, so many people, everyone i talk to, whether they like me, dislike me, theyre all concerned about you and they all send you best wishes and they all they all respect the guts that youve shown here, televising as you are going through this and getting the message out. And thats universal, so were all proud of you. Good, im glad, im glad that its helping people, they can feel this isnt a boogeyman. That they cant beat. And little tips im learning, if it helps somebody, its all worth it. There has to be a purpose to the pain. Let me ask you something about purpose to pain. It is hard for people to get, andrew, that seeing a lot of people die can mean Something Better is coming. How do you sell that message . Yeah, you dont. Its hard for me its hard for me to hear it. I said i do these Daily Press Briefings to go through the facts, because more than anything, people want information. They dont want political spin. They do want a lot of garbage, they just want the facts, so i do the briefings that give people the facts. So, i do the briefings that give people the facts. I had trouble today, ill tell you the truth, chris, because talk about mixed emotions. Good news bad news. Good news, the curve is flattening, if if we are still conscientious, because we are flattening the curve, thats the good news. We can flatten the curve. Bad news, Record Number of deaths, 779. Were up to 6,268 deaths, chris. The 9 11 was 2,700 deaths, just to give you an idea of where we are. So, yeah, you have this theoretical good news, that flattening of the curve, and the worst news that you could possibly have with the Record Number of deaths, you know, how do you hold both of those emotions at the same time . So, look, its an emotional time, its a stressful time for everyone. Its not going to get better any time soon, thats the truth. The plain truth. And it depends on what we do. It is our actions that is flattening the curve. Why were all those projections wrong . Because our actions have been better than the statisticians believed. So, we can flatten the curve. We are flattening the curve. We have to maintain it, but the human cost here, the human toll, the suffering, is just incredible. Its just incredible. And look, people know its not going to end any time soon, thats why, you know, i tell you, i think youre right to play it straight with them. I think its better to give people the straight information. Now, Media Coverage is going to look and see how we got here. You and the mayor have been cited in new york for catching on slowly here. And that is something that they dont just talk about you guys, but that you are part of the mix of politicians who waited too long. With the benefit of hindsight, do you agree with that criticism . Look, in these situations, chris, theyre going to criticize you whichever way you go, right . Ive been through too many emergencies, too many disasters. If you take a lot of action and then the storm doesnt come, they say you were overcautious, overpreventative. So, theyll secondguess any decision. Thats what the quote unquote, some of you guys in the media like to do, right . First thing i say to you is, look in a mirror before you open your mouth, right . So, before you want to talk about what others did, what did you do and when did you do it . Second, youre not going to be able to find a state in the United States of america that moved faster than new york state. We had our first case, 15 days later, i closed the schools. Nobody had called for that, 19 days later, i closed down the state. When you close down new york, you close down one of the economic engines on this globe. And no state did that faster than we did it. As a matter of fact, i took a lot of heat for moving as fast as i did. Now they want to say, oh, governor, maybe you did too many you were too prepared, maybe you didnt need to do everything you did. You know, theyre going to do that game all day long. But look, i react to numbers and data and science. We are looking at projections and models, by experts who analyze this data. And i follow the data, right . This is not about what i think politically or what i think because i think really im a doctor. I just follow the data. And thats what we did. Just smiling because in the control room they just said, you have like three minutes left, and im like, my brother takes five minutes to say hello. Who has the fever . Just so you know, on the side who controls the shoes . You or the control room . Heres what ill tell you, in three minutes, were not going to be done. Im telling you that right now, if somebody is sitting back enjoying family right now, kick back, were not going anywhere. Let me ask you this. I have a zoom seder i have to get to. Im sure we all do. Actually, i didnt get invited to any. No surprise. I you dressed for it. I will buy lunch that you can show one piece that says you were too prepared for the pandemic. Any piece a dime . Cuomo, you were too prepared for this pandemic . You did too much, too soon. I dont think youll find any piece like that. What is the wager . Whatever you want. That you were too prepared . You did too much, too fast . Oh really . Yes. That, compared to the projections, that the actuality never came ill give you any context you want. Look, thats a separate question. I think you have to prepare more than the actual numbers. You are right about that, all day. This is the segue point. The president says, heres how you lead well. Im not going to tell you these bad words, im a cheerleader, baby, im a leader for this country. Why arent you more like the president that way . Instead of telling people, it could be this, it could be that, yeah, you could be wrong, just avoid it all. Dont fill their heads with these ugly potentials. Ah, look, this is not theres a time and place for everything, right . And theres going to be a discussion about who did what when, who should have done what when, where were the whistleblowers, the people that were supposed to blow the bugle on this global pandemic. Which started by the way in november, december in china. Maybe here, too. Were not in charge of global pandemics. Thats exactly right. State and local governments, were not in charge of global pandemics. It is not in our job description. Where were the world health organization, where were the media, where were the great Scientific Minds being interviewed . So, anyway, theyll do that. The president as cheerleader . Im an advocate for my state, im a cheerleader for my state, also. Maybe not a cheerleader, but im a promoter of my state. But in a situation like this, i think its about its about the facts, right . Sometimes its just about the facts. And doing what you have to do for the facts. I dont think theres a positive spin or a negative spin on facts and thats what we followed in this situation. I dont disagree that following the facts is the right thing. Especially the more serious the situation is. You have to trust the people to do the right thing with the information. I just dont see how it gives real optimism to give hollow hope. Now, you know, ive seen you referred to a little bit recently as the love gov and im wondering if thats making you a little soft on the president , that you dont want to really criticize him, because you need him and nows not a time for fighting, but dont you have to balance that with calling him out, if hes doing things that you dont think are great for the people of your state to be hearing and experiencing . Love gov . Ive always been a soft guy. I am the love gov. Im a cool dude and loose mood, you know that. I just say, let it go, just go with the flow, baby. You you have never said any of those things. Thats the first time youve said any of those. Really . Never said any of those. Ive known you my whole life. Well, thats your opinion. Yeah. You should listen better. Listening works. What . What was the question . Oh, i remember the question. Youre soft on the president. Why . Yeah, well, thats your characterization, first of all. You dont state it as a question, because you have a characterization in there that is a premise. I am working with the president , cooperatively, its very important that the federal and State GovernmentWork Together during this time. I have to do my best job for the people of this state. You cannot say look, ive been the governor in this country that has been the most critical of the president up until now. And by the way, theres no governor that hes been more critical of than me. So, nobodys going to say ive gone too soft on the president. Were working together to help the state. Thats whats important now, no politics, no personality, no ego, no ego. Its not about you. Its not about me. Its about we and getting through this and thats my singular focus. There will be a day and a time for everything. But this is not the time and place. Good. Yes. Bernie sanders is out. The word is, this increases the chances, with senator sanders out, that you may get in the race for president. Is that true . Is that the word . Well, then it must be true. Thats the word on the street. Oh, the word on the street . I didnt hear an answer. Im just saying, if thats the word, who am i to argue with the word, right . Right, so, then, the senator leaving the race has changed your thinking . Is that what youre saying, governor . Has the senators leaving the race changed my thinking . In what way . Are you now giving different consideration to running for president . No. So, you are still not thinking but why . Well, its definitely a good question. Im a thinking being im thinking about a lot of things. I bet, yeah. Is it are you not thinking about running for president because now theres more political momentum around the idea of you accepting a Vice President ial bid from joe biden . Is that something that youre considering . First of all, im glad to see youre feeling better. I can tell youre feeling better, because time is precious. Your animation yeah, i know. Answer whenever you like. Joe biden is joe biden is a personal friend of mine, ive worked with him, hes been a great friend to this state. I support him. I have for years. And hes going to be, i believe, an excellent democratic candidate and a leader. Second, i have said repeatedly my plans. When i said i wanted to run for governor, i said to the people of my state, i will serve as your governor. People asked me, well, will you run for president , i said no. Im not that guy, chris. Im not that politician who says, yeah, i want to its all about me and next step on the ladder. Even if your partys jumping up and down, signs at a Digital Convention and they call you and say, we need you, love gov . Yeah, love gov says no way. I gave my word and my word is good, im not your typical guy. Dont laugh. Youre going to pay, chris. One day, youre going to be better. And then i hope. And then well have another discussion. I just want to ask the question. For right now im not going to be Vice President. What does v. P. Stand for . Vice president. Principled . So, neither one, okay, good. Theres an Important Campaign you are pushing for people right now called stay home and who you are staying home for . Its a good idea. Its a good way to connect, the personal commitment of what theyre doing. My decision is, and as i posted today, very early before anybody else responded to the call that you put out, im staying home for my mother. Because i love her and at her age, shes uniquely vulnerable to the virus and thats why making the move out of the house that christina and i made was 100 our own and we did it early. Who are you staying home for . Because im staying home for my mom. Yeah. The whole campaign is dedicated to my mother. And i said that first thing this morning. When i posted my picture. I didnt hear you say anything. My mother. My mother. Im staying home youre staying home for your mom, too . Isnt that weird after i just said it . No. I went first. I had my picture at my press conference saying im doing it for my mother. Really . Yes. Because its a point that i want people to understand. But theres me with mom right now. Yeah, well i had my picture this morning while you were still sleeping and i showed it at my press conference. And people have to understand, you want to be reckless with your own life, dont endanger others. And thats what the stay at home for campaign is all about. Beautiful. Dont endanger Health Care Workers, dont endanger vulnerable people. I love it. And she was my mother first, by the way. That is true. That one, you win that point, 100 . You were born first. Yes, thank you. And the Health Care Workers are begging us to do this for them and i love the idea of the campaign, so, im shifting my answer. You can have mom. Because thats, you know, what the bigger person does. Im going to stay at home for these two guys. Heres my new choice. Im staying home for these guys. Put up the picture. Thats what im cueing right now. Put up the picture. Yes. Im staying home for these two guys in the front. You know why . Can you see the picture . All right, no, i cant see it. You can see it. Cant see it. I cant see it. Im staying home you can see it. I cant see it. Yeah, i cant see it. Theres one bye, chris. No, no, dont you do it. Put the microphone back on. Dont be like that. And dont hold it in your hand because the hand swallows up the whole microphone take the picture down. Put it back up. There he is. And heres why im doing it for these guys. Because this is the guy who helped me shape who i am today. Look how i was looking at him so lovingly back then. I know it looks like im staring at his diamond encrusted belt buckle, but im not. Im actually staring up at the young man who made me so proud as his brother back then and my billy the kids and now. And just, if you want to tell people, hukapoo was your signature look. Youve abandoned it. Why . There are no words. There are no words. Just facts. That is not me. Straight down the middle. Straight down the middle. Straight down the middle. Three minutes is up. Three minutes is up. Governor, it is good to remind people yes, sir. That they are just coming to love you now as i have my whole life. Its your commitment to other people. Its what matters most to me about you. I love you very much. Thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for keeping my spirits up and thank you for what youre doing for the state. Oh, id like to say it was my pleasure, but it wasnt. Why . Come on. Well talk later. Have a good show. Have a good show. I thought this was a fruitful conversation. Bye. Governor, thank you, ill talk to you soon. Bye. Thank you. That is the governor of new york. Several headlines there. That as hard as it is to see the realities of us losing lives in this, what you have to do is believe that if we keep doing what were doing, there will be less pain. And thats why he started the campaign of staying at home for. And as he said, hes staying at home for our mother. And the rest of us should be staying at home for our mothers and the people we love and to keep us farther apart, will ultimately bring us closer together in this cause. All right, now the president keeps offering up different remedies now that he wants people to know about as what should be out there, what do you have to lose . Lets answer that question next. I am totally blind. And non24 can make me show up too early. Or too late. Or make me feel like im not really there. Talk to your doctor, and call 8442342424. Nondrowsy claritin cool mint chewables. Feel the clarity of new the only allergy product with relief of your worst symptoms, including itchy throat. Plus an immediate blast of cooling sensation. 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Now, the president had been cautioned about making these kinds of recommendations, nevertheless, heres what he said today. They say zinc, i want to throw that out there, because thats where they seem to be having the best result, so, you add the zinc and the azithromycin and its been weve had a lot of good stories. Dr. Sanjay gupta joins us now. Doctor, how come you dont share the president s confidence when youre a doctor, you must know what he obviously is so confident in, being a doctor, that color in, chloroquine, and zpack, there are stories about people getting good on it. Zinc, ive heard a lot of good stories about that. Whats wrong . Well, look, i think that everybody on the planet, chris, we want to see some sort of therapy work, but its got to be proven to work, chris, and i think the notes from the American Heart Association, the Cardiology Association and then this heart rhythm association, they all, you know, were part of this letter that was sent, voicing their concern. A small study, all the studies are small, chris, because were early days in regard to this stuff, so, we cant read into studies that show benefit and you cant really show too much of these studies that show the side effects, but they raise this concern that this particular medication could cause a heart rhythm abnormality. So, in people who dont have a heart rhythm abnormality, it might cause one. People that already have one, it might worsen one. We dont know how significant that is. I think the study was 80 people, and about 121, 11 of them, eight or nine of them, developed this problem. It wasnt necessarily a lethal problem, but it could be a potentially a significant problem for these patients. Thats why you do the studies, chris. I dont think it has anything to do, frankly, with me being a doctor or not being a doctor. We dont know. Im not divinely given this information. Right now, the data doesnt exist. So, when these associations are throwing out caution, theyre basically relying on a tenant that we all sort of think about, you dont want to do any harm. We dont know if this works, there is a potential for harm here. Maybe its a small potential, but there is a potential. And wouldnt that be a real tragedy for somebody who did not get any benefit from the medication and yet had some kind of harm happen to them . Thats why you do the studies. They are happening. Hopefully you get the results quickly. You and your brother were just talking about it. People are desperate right now, and, all right, so, fine, the heavy drugs well put to the side for a second. Zinc and the vitamin cocktails were hearing about that, again, anecdotally, you hear things from people, different people on the front lines, the president then says, hey, i hear good things about zinc, i want to put it out there. Yeah, theres not, you know, with some of these supplements and things like that, i think the side effect profile is not concerning, because if people are saying, are asking, does it work, because i think thats fundamentally what people are asking, we dont know, you know . You have to try all these things, as well, as simple a therapeutic that they may be. The supplements that people buy, they dont always know what theyre getting. Its a largely unregulated industry. So, if you have a deficiency in something, if you are deficient in a particular vitamin, yes, a supplement may make sense. But if you are not, i dont think theres any proof that its necessarily going to improve your course. You have to study that just like anything else. Again, i think, especially when i look at you, chris, i think and i have people who have this infection, i think, of course, youre wanting something to be proven to work. I get that. I mean, im sure you think about that all the time. Speaking of which, i know you are not trying any of those things, but how are you doing . Nights have been worse for you, i know in the past, is that still the case . Nights have been worse. Today i am oddly spacey and i dont know why, because guess what . On the night of passover, i got good news, that i think the worst of this is over for me. I know i just jinxed myself by saying that, but christina and i had smiles on our faces today. My fever has been unusually low most of the day. Ordinarily at this time, doc, i am not faking it, im baking, you know what i mean . It is hot in here at this time of night. And right now, im still just a little bit above normal, so, thats great news. I am really spacey and ive been talking to my doctor before this about why that is, what that could mean. I did not use the chloroquine. Why . Because in investigating it for somebody with my particular health profile, what does that mean . Well, there are certain drugs that it can interact with that im on, so had to be careful about that. Also, it seems to be that with my symptomology, that i am immunosuppressed, so, i need things to boost my immune system, the way, as you and others explained the drug to me, that chloroquine works, it suppresses immune systems to reduce inflammation, which can work very well with malaria and lupus, but thats not what i need. I need my immune system boosted, not artificially depressed. So, it doesnt work for me, so, i didnt think about trying it. The other things i have been doing right now seem to be working well. I know i have a long way to go. But i have not felt as good as i do right now in a long time. And i only think its a little bit because i just slapped andrew around for 15 minutes, like i had a fat pad until my hand, bing, bing, so its a little bit that, but it is also because im getting healthier. Thats apparently your therapy, beating up on your brother. That was too easy. Look, im glad youre feeling better. And just you know, because i got to ask these questions, you and i talk on the phone all the time. Again, none of the tightness in the chest and those sorts of things . I know you got a chest xray. My chest is tight, my breath is short, it hurts in the morning. I feel like im going to bring up a lot more than i do. Im doing these breathing exercises that weve posted online, this beautiful doctor put them online, he learned them from a respiratory therapist and he shows us, the two sets of five breathe and hold for five seconds, take in a breath, five seconds, breathe out, do that five times, on the sixth one, you give yourself a big cough. You do two cycles of that, you get onto your stomach, arch your back. Most of your lung tissue is on your back, and do those exercises again. They are painful, they make me cough a lot. They make me short of breath. But im told that theyre helping and i feel like theyre helping. So, im doing them five times a day. Im glad to hear it, chris. I mean, again, i talk to you and i know you have these ups and downs and i hope that this is a trajectory that just continues to improve. Thats probably the best news ive heard from you in some time. But keep an eye on it, you know . As with the country, where we dont want to get complacent, its easy to get complacent because people see the numbers, and well, the models dont look so bad, and i hope that the models continue to improve, in fact, but part of the reason theyre improving is because we havent gotten complacent as a country, most places have done a pretty good job. I hope you dont do the same i hope you dont get complacent as an individual, too. I know its hard. Youre a workaholic. I know its going to be a long road. I know the fever can come back. I know this virus does that. I know people crash after up periods. And you got to balance what you need for your Emotional Health in terms of how much optimism you take versus just trusting duration. Because even once im feverfree for 72 hours without tylenol, which, by the way, i have not been for more than four hours. Im on tylenol steady. Im nowhere near where i need to be. To consider myself feverfree. Then im going to have to quarantine for a couple of weeks anyway. Im not going anywhere any time soon and i know that. But today is a good day. All right, brother . Well know where to find you. You do bring up a good point, though, just for people who ask about this at home, i get a lot of questions about you, chris. 72 hours without a fever, without any medications to bring the fever down. At least seven days since you developed your symptoms. Those are the sorts of things you start looking for to possibly get yourself out of the basement and i know its going to be a little while. Well be with you, bud. I think its crazy they dont retest people, especially Health Care Workers before allowing them to go back to work. 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I know its unpopular, but thats what makes you popular as a leader. Well, thanks, chris. First of all, i want to say im glad you are doing better, but how in the warld am i supposed to follow this act between you and your brother . I mean, that was one of the best things ive seen on tv in a long time. Governor, just answer the questions and were not going to have a problem. Yes, sir, i got it. I got it. No, listen, thank you for the nice words. He sends his regards as well. Now, to help people understand, i know that its easy to criticize you guys after the fact for what you do. And yes, you had the benefit of watching some of the bigger populations deal with it earlier. But when people get sensitive, everybody should have done things sooner, you did things sooner in ohio, even on the election side. And well talk about that more in a second, but what can you tell people about when it was clear to make a call and how tricky it is to make the right call in real time in a situation like this . Well, first of all, i have a great Health Director in dr. Amy actin. She had been advising me for some time, following what was going on in china, and she really tied me in with a lot of good people to talk to. We put together a group of doctors from ohio, about 14 doctors, but the first big decision we had to make was in regard to whats called the arnold classic, and its a big event in columbus, arnold comes in, its a big sporting event, but it is also, like, a trade show. 60,000 spectators coming in, and we had to decide, were we going to let that go on . And it was a tough decision, because no one had really at that point shut anything down, i dont think, to speak of in the United States, but we looked at it, studied it, 60,000 people from up to 80 countries coming in, in a relatively small area for four days just made absolutely no sense, according to the scientists and medical community, and so, i had a great partner in the mayor, andy gunther, and he and i said, well allow the event to go on, but no spectators. That was tough. Because it disappointed an awful lot of people and theres a big Economic Impact for the city of columbus. And people could see the Economic Impact, they couldnt see the Pandemic Impact at that time. Now that they saw the numbers that came after, now you have a flattening of the curve. It comes about persistence and selling on people on staying the course. One of the ways you did that is staying even in your approach. So, with the election, you were like, listen. Ive got to change the election. And the president disagrees with that move, the Supreme Court just agreed with him in the state case of wisconsin. I know there was a discreet issue there about expanding the date for absentee ballots specifically. But why do you ascribe to the school of thought that moving an election is not undoing an election . Well, we look at it as continuing the election, which is really what we did. Our plan originally was to push the election back, have an actual in place voting, thats not eventually what the legislature did, but we still, people still have plenty of time to vote, but i made this decision, and, again, that is not an easy decision to make, but i made the decision for a couple reasons. One, 35,000 poll workers, many of them right. I dont know where you vote, but where i vote, people have been there for a long time and they do it. So, people are at very high risk for 13 hours in ohio being at the polls. The other thing, it was clear to me that weekend that there were people in ohio who were really reassessing it and they had the opportunity before to vote absentee. They hadnt done it because they never do it, you know, certain people always want to go vote in person. But that sunday or monday, it was just starting to strike people, hey, this is dangerous. And i remember oh, yeah. I talked to a late 70yearold couple and they said, look, we just decided, we talked together, we decided, were not going to vote. Its we always vote, but were not going to take the chance. So, it was clear to me, we were asking people, you know we were messaging, you should vote and we were messaging you should stay home. It finally struck me, that just didnt make any sense, and thats not fair and were putting people at risk. You know, the number one republican in the country says, heres your mistake, is that you forgot that people cheat with mailin ballots and that mailin voting is rife with fraud, it happens all the time, he says, and thats why you cant risk it. Mailin voting is a bad thing, and you allowed it and now youre going to have to pay for that. Why do you disagree . Well, i dont think he was talking about ohio, but, you know no, no, hes never mentioned ohio specifically, hes been talking about mailin voting as a concept that you embraced. Well, its something weve done in ohio for a long time, and we have a very liberal voting, in the sense that it we have voting for four weeks and we do it every election and we have early voting, we let people go in actually to the board of elections and vote, we let them go the sunday before the election, but for 28 days, they have a right to go in and they also can do absentee ballots, so, we are used to do doing that. Frank la rose, our secretary of state, i have great confidence in him, and my lieutenant governor, the previous secretary of state, john houston, and you know, they know how to run elections, and weve had a lot of experience in this, so we didnt really worry about, you know, any kind of fraud, as far as that was concerned. Well, certainly havent seen it in the case law. Looking in terms of the press president ial value of fraud. Theres not a lot of case data there to support the concern. Governor mike dewine, you are creating a record, though, of accomplishment on this pandemic. I hope your state stays the course, i hope the numbers continue to go down and i wish you a very good future. Good luck to you, chris. Thank you for having me. Governor, thank you. God bless your family. All right, now most people who get the virus, you would do anything to escape it again, okay . Our heroes on the front lines are not most people. 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He had it himself. He recovered. And he is back treating patients at new yorks one of its hardesthit hospitals in elmhurst, queens. Welcome, doctor, to primetime. Thank you, chris, for having me, and im really rooting for you to get better. Im cautiously optimistic for you. Well, thank you, doc, and i draw confidence from your own successful recovery to this. And i want to ask you the decision to go back into the hospital, did you have hesitation . To be honest, not know, we b physicians, and everyone working on the front lines, we love the opportunity to change the course of peoples lives when they need it most. And so it was never a question for me, or any of my colleagues who have gotten sick, you know. We want to get back. In fact, many of us, myself included, honestly, felt a lit guilty when we were quarantining at home because our colleagues are working their tails off. And were sitting on the couch, appropriately, nursing ourselves back to health. But, you know, theres just so much need out there and theres such a shortage of supplies and people and the workforce that were excited, i was excited, to get back on the front lines. Not immune. Thats a scary question to think about. Im still taking all the same precautions, wearing all my ppe. Taking off my clothes, showering when i get home. Im hoping that the immunity works out. Im scheduled to get an Antibody Test later this week. But, yeah, just fingers crossed. Yeah, absolutely. You have prayers from so many. You cant even imagine. Just seeing you and realizing what youre doing for the rest of us. And tell us what you are seeing that this is a kind of sick that, even you, have just never experienced in terms of the flow in the hospital. What are you seeing . Chris, to be honest with you, it is wild. Know, we feel like playing whackamole with sick patients. You fix them. And all of a sudden, two others pop up. And its this neverending tide. I want to give credit, though, to the heroism, the volunteers, retired doctors that have come out. You know, its just so heartwarming to see so many people come together at this moment. But one of the things that this virus does, that i dont think is talked about enough, is it really interferes with your bodys ability to absorb oxygen. And so, normally, a normal, healthy person should be living at 96 to 100 . And maybe, once in a while in the emergency department, ill see the odd patient who has a 70 or an 80 . But every single day, i am seeing patients in the 30s, the 40s, 50 . I even had yeah i even had a patient go down to zero percent. I didnt even know the monitor could read that low. And so thats thats really scaring me. And the real sad part about this disease is patients are dying alone because, appropriately so, the hospitals are preventing visitors. And thats what we need to control the virus. But, you know, not having your loved one hold your hand in your last few minutes is has got to be one of the most painful, painful experiences. So some of us have started fa face timing families so they can whisper a prayer in a patients ear. And that helps. Such a beautiful gesture. But its not the same. Its such a beautiful gesture to them. Of course, its not the same, doctor. But its something that they wouldnt have had otherwise. And its something i want people to know about, even though its hard for you to discuss it with them because they have to know the pain of keeping yourself home right now, and keeping your away from loved ones now, may spare you the fate of not being able to be with them in their final moments. Thats how important this selfisolation is, and thats why i want people to hear the reality of how many are dying, alone, in the hospital. Absolutely. Well, doctor, i got to tell you i am i am not jealous of your recovery but you deserve it much more than anybody like me. You are doing the right thing with your life. Youre helping other people. And, boy, are you brave to go back to the same place that got you sick because i know you are acutely aware of how little you want to have this virus inside your body. Dr. Omar, god bless, please, stay well. And let us know if theres anything we can do to help your cause. Absolutely. Thank you, chris, for everything youre doing and for spreading the message. And telling people to stay home. Thank you. Yes, absolutely. We have to stay home. Thats why its a hashtag. All right. Now, to another big group of you out there. My jewish brothers and sisters, as a proud member of what we call the extended family, passover. In fact, may we all have a sweet passover. The story of this holy day is more relevant to the secular reality of this entire country than perhaps it ever has been. The story of passover is a literal passing over of the angel of death, right . The jews were warned to mark their doors with blood, to avoid having the first better thborn. It was the worst of the plagues. This pandemic is plaguelike. Okay . It is casting a shadow over everyones door, and there is no mark that it seems to respect. But there is a defense. It cannot overcome our greatest gift. That which brings us all closer to union with the divine. That which is our unique attribute, among all animals that god made. That is our compassion. Why . Our compassion is what compels the pandemic to spare homes by keeping our distance from each other and, therefore, keeping each other safe. Thats a practice of compassion. And it compels us, our compassion, to selfisolate. To do something that is good for somebody else, even if we dont love it for ourselves. Even if its hard. But because we know its right. Thats the practice of compassion. That is how we will create our own passover, god willing. Jewish brothers and sisters ask themselves the four questions at seder tonight. Zoom seder maybe theyre having now, and thats the right way to do it. The answer why tonight is different from all others. Well, we need to answer that question collectively about where we all are right now. Weve never been where we are, the fear, the challenge, the realities, the fragility, understanding how precious so many of the things we take for granted truly are. We should have a new set of questions. How do we make sure the rest of the country deals with this pandemic better than we have so far . Now, a big part of the answer to that one is going to mean how do we deal with the minority communities and the impoverished communities that are getting hard hit harder, except to just acknowledge it . Everybody is now acknowledging it. Thats good. But theyre not doing anything about it. When will they do that . Where is the plan to blunt that effect . Okay. How do we get better leadership on that level . Saying what the reality is is not enough. You must address the reality. Okay . And how do we do that . How do we get better leadership without just reducing it to getting even or being in the gotya game and attacking one side for doing what the other side does. How do we protect ourself from the next wave so we dont repeat this nightmare . Those are the hard questions we have to ask. It will be a hard passover. It will be a hard easter. But i hope the themes, ideas, the rationales, they get as rooted as much in our collective faith as they do in our particular faith traditions. We need this dark spirit to pass over our homes. We need to see the purpose even in pandemiclevel pain. We need rebirth and renewal to get to a better place. My prayer is that, on some level, the pandemic