Tonight as if america could be ready to open up shop as soon as a week from today. What is the reality of where things stand in the home of wall street . The new york governor knows the answer and we will get Straight Talk from him on where are we really . How long are we looking at . Most likely . We also have the former acting Homeland Security chief to lay out how hard is what government is trying to do. How hard is it . And what still needs to be done . Now, for the rest of us, we know the remedy for what ails us, dont we . We have to be informed, we have to be ready and we have to be our best. Together as ever as one. Lets get after it. President trump says he will not let the cure be worse than the problem. The problem is, there is no cure yet, and the only thing that every expert from everywhere in the world, the only thing they say we can do to stop the spread is what, isolate. And it seems like the president thinks he may have a better idea. Our country wasnt built to be shut down. Were not going to let the cure be worse than the problem. At the end of the 15 day period well make a decision as to which way we want to go. Im not looking at months, i can tell you right now. Look, no one wants the economy to struggle. What weve done here is balanced Financial Hardship with avoiding extreme illness that could debilitate us for who knows how long . Are we now comfortable with the idea that its two weeks and then over . The leader who knows the reality better than any other right now at least in new york is the governor of new york. Andrew cuomo, of course, my brother. Thank you for coming back to the show. Mom told me i had to. What was your reaction to what the president said about im not looking at months, im not going to let the elephant jump off the ledge because of a cat, whatever he said. Were looking to open back up, surprised . Im not surprised. The president is very concerned about the economy, right . The economy was doing well, the economy is now truly suffering. The consequences havent even been felt yet, because not only have you stopped the revenue machine, youve increased the expense machine, okay . So those two things are going to compound each other. So the president is eager to get back to the economy, everybody agrees this is an unsustainable situation. You cant keep spending money and close down the economy. And the president is eager to get it opened as quickly as possible. I actually have a group that is working on the restart of the economy because i get it too. This is new york, and were with the home of so much of this. So coming up with the plan to restart the economy is very important. I think the but this, you dont want to its a false choice to say Public Health or restart the economy. Nobodys going to make that choice. And by the way, if you have to make that choice, its Public Health. You cannot put a value on a human life. Nobody cares how long it takes to get the economy up and running if you saved lives. But there is an art form here, which is overlaying a Public Health strategy and an economic strategy. What we did is, we just closed everything down as quickly as we could. Just the shut all the doors border all the windows. There was no art to what we did, no nuance. Is there a Public Health strategy that says, look, you can start to bring young people back to work . You can start to test and find out who had the virus and who resolved from the virus, and they can start to go back to work. And thats how well restart the economy with a smart Public Health strategy . Closing the door on everyone was only because we didnt know better, right . If you now look at it, it didnt make any sense to close the schools, send my kids home with me or older people, with grandmothers who were vulnerable to this virus. And young people were then maybe bringing it into the house. We didnt have any data or science to instruct us. But now you can come up with a smarter Public Health strategy that actually protects older people. Lets younger people get back to work. And that can start the economic recovery. But it has to be that smart. It cant be reactive, it cant be emotional. This is the part i dont get. From watching the coverage of whats going on in the state. The rate of hospitalizations seems to be increasing, it seems like youre just starting to feel what this enemy, this war is really about. So how can people make sense and reconcile these two things, were getting close to figuring out how to open things back up at a time when it seems to be getting worse, and the idea that a month from today we may have the worst part of the capacity crisis and the president is saying hes going to reopen things in a week or so . It doesnt seem like those can go together. Well, the socalled walk and chew gum. Do we have to think about restarting the economy . Yes. Do we have to plan for it . Yes. Should we be thinking about a Public Health strategy that starts the economy . That to me is the art form for government in this situation. But what were looking at right now is this wave of increasing cases. I just got off the phone with a new projection model that new york city was seeing double the number of cases every two and a half days. That can take your breath away. That curve they keep talking about, we have to flatten the curve, that is a wave. That is a tsunami. Thats the scene in the perfect storm where George Clooney is trying to go up the wave and he gives the boat all the gas he can to try to get over the top of the wave, and the wave crashes over him. The wave is going to crash over our Health Care System. It will crash anywhere from 10 days to 3 weeks. From now . It is going to overwhelm the Health Care System. And where were going to feel it most, we can scramble and create beds, well have a staff problem because staff are getting sick, and were doing everything we can to find reserve staff. We wont have the equipment and we wont have the ventilators. I have been saying for weeks, we need 30,000 ventilators. Ive been saying publicly, ive been requesting it from the federal agencies, hhs, secretary aczar sent 500 ventilators, we need 30,000 ventilators. If you dont have the ventilator, a person who needs the ventilator will die without the ventilator. Its a respiratory disease. And were not getting the ventilators. Ive been saying, institute the darn federal procurement act why do you think he doesnt do it . Command companies to produce why wouldnt he do it . Their theory is, companies are voluntarily saying i want to help, i want to help. I want to increase production. Fine and it is a nice thing, corporations are doing great things. But you cant you cant manage an operation on this adhoc basis of people saying, im going to give it a go. Order the ventilators, pay for the ventilators, say this is how much i why wouldnt he do it . Because their theory of operation is Public Private sector partnership. Youve seen them at press conferences, peter navarro, companies are coming forward and saying well do it anyway. We dont have to order them because theyre doing it. Its a totally different theory of operating. Lets do this, governor, im sorry to interrupt you i want specific numbers. Well, then dont. You know. You have a little bit of pops gift where you keep going. Let me take a commercial and then when we come back. And you dont . When we come back from the commercial, i want to ask you what you need, where things are, and what your assessment is of the job youve done so far, and where you think this guys. Thank you very much for your patience. I appreciate it. Well be back right after this. 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Everyone is competing against everyone else. Thats why the federal government should step up and do it. Third, were going to try an Untested Technology where we split the ventilator tubes. In other words, normally its one ventilator to one person. Is there a way to take that and split it youre the mechanic, do you have enough power to split it . You have enough power in the pump to split it, but can you split that ventilator into two tubes for two patients, three tubes for three patients. Theyre trying things like this in italy. The tricky thing is, the ventilator has a set pressure, normally you regulate the pressure to that patients lungs. My lung capacity is better than your lung capacity. So the ventilate were have to give me more oxygen than it would have to give you. How do you put two people on that same ventilator, so were working through that. This is a real stretch, chris. Because you dont have the number of ventilators. Ill talk about your newfound confidence in a second. First, new drug therapies that the president puts a lot of stock in. Can you hear me, governor . Can you hear me or no . This is a great chance for me to say some things to him. Do you hear me now . You never know with a politician if they really dont hear you, or they didnt like where the questions were going. Let me see if we can get him back online. What happened . Can you hear me now . I lost let me do this, ill take a quick commercial, well get him back online. I want to try to get you the information on what about these new drug panels and where does he see it going in terms of how many weeks and months. And also, why are people paying attention to new york in a way that the president doesnt seem to. Why are so many of you resonating with whats happening in that state and with this governor . Ill figure out why he didnt like the question once it became a little uncomfortable, next. 5g will change business in america. Tmobile has the first and only, nationwide 5g network. 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Theyre all over the internet, antimalaria drugs. People are getting better. You put any stock in any of that at this point . I put hope. We have three drugs were looking at. The hydro color quine that the president is caulking about, we will start that right away in the new york city hospitals. The president expedited the fda approval. We have a second drug that new york state is working on developing, that actually tests the plasma of people who had the virus, extracts the antibodies and injects those antibodies into someone whos dealing with the virus. The third drug is testing the blood to see if you had the virus and have the antibodies and have resolved, that would let you know you had it, are immune by most probability and you can go back to work. Theres hope, but again that all takes time, and theres testing and prote comes, protocols. Tony fauci talked about that. I would like to take a turn on that quickly. What is this Straight Talk on what its like working with the white house right now. Ive heard there is a deferential to the white house and say, look look, were trying it, were doing it. It seems like your needs are not decreasing, at the kind of rate you need them to deal with a tsunami. What is the reality of dealing with the white house, Straight Talk . Yeah, i always do Straight Talk. I would disagree with your use of the word deferential, but its your show. Dont forget ive been clear with the white house. I have an immediate problem on the equipment for this wave that is happening, ppes, gowns, masks, most important are the ventilators. And there has been no response. There has been no response. Thats why i said right here, looking at the camera on your show. To secretary azar, he has to be responsible here. Tell me where i get those ventilators. Christopher, people will die who need a ventilator, they will be mostly elderly, theyll have an underlying illness, thats true. But some can be younger like anderson coopers show showed us, you can have an underlying illness, be recovering from cancer, be younger, you will need a ventilator and wont get it. Were trying this splitting mechanism but we shouldnt be here. Just order a company to produce the darn ventilators and thats it. When we get to two weeks and you have people in hospitals who are dying because we dont have ventilators, thats going to be a national tragedy. Well try all the drugs, im trying everything else, were working on every level, but if you dont have the ventilators, and you have them or you dont. What is the day like now, how is it managing a situation like this, in terms of the daily activities, what is this like . Well, this is 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and look, ive been in the federal government, i did disaster work, all across this country, all across the world, we did Disaster Recovery as you know. Ive been in this state, ive handled everything in this state. Its the hours dont matter, its the consequence here, its the consequence here, the numbers are big. And its life and death and if they are anywhere close to right on these projections of how quickly these numbers are going to grow. The number of people who were going to lose can easily be in the thousands. And god forbid we say we could have saved them if we had the right equipment. Thats what keeps me up at night. And thats why im as strident as i am about these ventilators and the urgency of the ventilators and the equipment. It literally is life and death, you see it coming, its two weeks, three weeks, four weeks down the road, its coming, that wave is coming. What do you say to the people on the ah, we misjudged it, the numbers arent going to be that bad, this was too much preparation. Yeah, theyre wrong, theyre going to be wrong, people will die and the numbers will be inarguable. I dont make any political decisions on this, this is all follow the science, follow the numbers, follow the health professionals, you look at those numbers increasing every day, doubling every two 1 2 day, just look at the trajectory, just dot, dot, dot, dot, connect the dots, right . And then you tell me that anyone is over hyping this situation . Let me ask you something, why do you think new york is getting so much attention right now and people have such a spotlight on you that theyre watching your pressers every day, what do you think its about personally . I think its because new york we have this density, we are the gateway to the world. The disease came here. The disease is growing here faster than anywhere else. So just on the numbers, new york is the epicenter. Do you think that when you assess this, and you raised me so i understand how you do things because you raised me, but assessing, what was the right move youve made so far and what was a wrong move you made. The president talks about learning things and then he talks about washing hands. What have you learned on your level . Yeah, first, thank you for the compliment. I dont want to be have total association with you and your show, i dont need all that negativity. Im generating my own negativity. Thank you. Not right now, youre the man. Why is that . Because im your brother, thats why. The best decision was Closing Everything down. Which politically may have terrible consequences, but so what, it was the right thing to do. Thats what pop taught us, you do the right thing. Closing everything down was the right decision. The worst decision which is a lousy question by you, is probably coming on your show, frankly. What have you learned in terms of what you could have handled better sooner, that seems to be the lesson, states were, were listening to what was being said at the federal level, what is the lesson for how to prepare for the next wave that youll do differently . Every disaster has its own little hidden trick in it. This one was medical capacity, medical equipment and these ventilators. No one saw these ventilators coming, and the urgency of ventilators, and how many ventilators we have in this country and how many we can make. That i dont think anyone saw. I was watching china, and it was inevitable what was happening in china was going to happen here. There was no theory that their immune systems were different than ours. We started very early on, getting ready, preparing, blowing the whistle, blowing the horn, making the case, the ventilators, not having the ventilators and not being able to get the ventilators and the ppe equipment, which the federal government could help us with, that is the greatest frustration in all of this. You got to get it right, theres going to be another wave, right . If you look at the models, it goes down and comes back. Not to use 1918 as a go to, but that was the huge miss in that situation. How do you get to where you need to be where people dont live through this a second time the same way . Yeah, im old. But i wasnt here in 1918, but youre right, the medical capacity, we have a Health Care System that is basically a private Health Care System. They have private economics. They have capacity that they can sell. They dont build beds as backup beds. They dont build additional icu beds for a Public Health emergency. These are expensive beds, its expensive real estate, so they dont have a backup Public Health equipment stockpile thats worth anything. Or a backup medical capacity, that has to change. That has to change. Its going to get worse, the hospitalizations are increasing, you want people to know that even though its a tough message to deliver. That type of tough talk has had people recognize you in a different way even though youve been doing this job a long time. Youre in your third term. How do you explain to yourself how people seem to be seeing you in a different way now, even physically making comments about how you look and how you come across that are really hard to kind of square with any sense of reality. Because its not reality. Im doing the same job ive done all the ways that i did in washington, that ive been doing here in the state of new york. You know what it reminds me of, it reminds he of pop, he used to talk about how he gave the same speech and then one day he gave the Democratic National convention speech, and then he became great and after that speech everybody said wow your speeches are so great. And dads point was, it was the same speech i was always giving, but the lens changed. The only thing that happened here is the lens changed. Im doing what i do, and ive been doing it the same way, and i look the same as ive always looked. To be fair, the reason pop ill get back to that. One, im hearing your finger nails scratch on Something Like youre nervous. I know youre busy. You dont have sometime to cut your fingernails. Call mom. What happened with pop was, he delivered the right speech at the right time and it was seen by so many. Thats what youre doing right now that is being recognized and given a claim. Youre doing the job the right way when it matters when eyes are on you, thank god for that. The looks have to make you question the veracity of the it must be very confusing for you, because you know that what people are saying about how you look really cant be accurate. It must be hard for you to make sense of what is real and what is true now. I feel for you. Jealousy, yeah. Always straight, right across the plate. Straight across the plate. Dont worry, theres still time, theres hope for you. One day you can grow up to be like me. I tried to be like you my whole life, look where it got me. Governor andrew cuomo, thank you very much for doing the job, thank you for caring for the family. I love you, ill talk to you after this. Better than me. Youre better than me. Only on basketball court. Never, never, never. Dont lie. Thats what pop said. Never. You never beat me. Not once. He said andrew has tremendous capability, he is blessed in many ways but hes got hands like bananas and he cant play ball. Everybody knows it. Just saying, youre doing a great job, though. Ill see you soon. Be well, governor. Love you. I do love him. The tension is real, though. The pressure is real as well. It cant be true that were a week or so away from getting back. And that the hospitalization rate is going up and up and up and not getting the equipment they need to deal with the need. Those two things cant exist in the universe. Unless one is politics and one is the pragmatism of doing what needs to be done for us and thats why we need to have these conversations. Another conversation to have, we are obsessed with the number of cases. And, of course, with the number of people who are succumbing to the illness, anderson is doing beautiful obituary pieces, eulogies of people who have passed. What number should we be facing and dealing with, that i argue to you, no ones mentioning. Were going to bring in dr. Sanjay gupta for what is the reality behind the numbers. Doc, thanks for being with us right after this break. People used to care. Heck, theyd come all the way out here just for a blurry photo of me. Oh, thats a good one. Wait, whats that . Thats just the lowbattery warning. Oh, alright. Now its all, check out my rv, and, lets go fourwheeling. Maybe theres a little part of me that wanted to be seen. Well, progressive helps people save when they bundle their home with their outdoor vehicles. So theyve got other things to do now, bigfoot. Wait, whatd you just call me . Bigfoot . My name is daryl. sensei a live bookkeeper quickbooks for me. 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Lets deal with the context. The president says, im not looking at months, were looking at getting back online. I just had my brother on, he says he sees a tsunami coming in three or four weeks. Those two propositions dont exist in the same universe, what did you make of it. I mean, i think look, if you if any Public Health official, anybody whos looking at this data, the data we do have is being honest, they would say theres no way. First of all, as we talked about, chris, we are behind the curve in terms of testing, and what i mean by that is not just the inadequate testing, people who are testing positive now were likely exposed several days ago, took a few more days to get their test results, it could be 10 to 14 days behind, we know during the last 10 to 14 days theres been more spread. If anything, the numbers are going to go up. Its not just the numbers going up. Its the pace at which theyre going up, its the inertia of all this as well. Thats what the social distancing is supposed to address. Take some of the fuel oust fire of this inertia. I dont see anyway you can reconcile those two things, i know its painful and its a tough balance, from a Public Health respect its very clear. From the numbers, and what we look at, were limited in our resources now, how were broadcasting, im going to be using this white board to put some numbers up for people. In new york, there are 20,875 positive cases, okay . Heres the metric im not hearing enough about that i want you to discuss. 13 of the number of 20,875, thats the hospitalization rate. Isnt that the number that really matters . Whos in the hospital . And conversely, whos cases have been resolved. We dont hear about resolved cases, and the hospitalization rate seems to get short shrift to the case number. Help me make sense of it. First of all, it was a binary thing that was being presented initially. Either people who lived or die, thats what were hearing mostly, then we were hearing that the vulnerable populations, even then we werent getting a lot of detail on exactly what was happening to them, whether they lived or died. Now were hearing the hospitalization rate. Thats more data. With the hospitalization rate. It gets a little bit more tricky in terms of the data, we know that 20 of the people hospitalized are between the ages of 20 and 44, they are likely to survive, very likely to survive, the hospitalization is significant and the recovery is significant. Your last question, i think the most important question, recovery. How do we determine what recovery means . Does this mean they no longer have the virus . They no longer have any symptoms whatsoever, different places are defining it differently. But its a very important question, i started doing some digging, and its actually surprisingly hard to come by, this very important number, what is the percentage of recovery . We hear 80 of people are likely to recover, but we dont know what the actual numbers are right now, chris. Ill tell you whats freaky, i looked at china, ill put the numbers up for people, 81,093 cases confirmed. 3,270 deaths. 72,703 patients cured and discharged from the hospital. At once that gives you hope that wow 72,000 of 81,000 were cured and discharged. But then how many cases had to be hospital ziz . , hospital loois lized . I mean, thats really spooky. Do you take confidence from it . Or is that a high rate of hospitalization . Yeah, no, thats a good point. I take the former from it, i looked at some of the data as well, it wasnt clear to me they were all hospitalized, some were seen in the clinics, some did get additional treatment. Thats 88 roughly the number youre quoting there, and thats good, i mean, thats even higher than we initially heard, because we were hearing it was closer to 80 . About 15 of severe conditions. And 5 of critical conditions. These are actually a little bit better numbers. What were hearing in the United States is about 12 to 13 of people who are getting the coronavirus are being hospitalized. The biggest age group there is people 65 to 84, the 20 to 44yearolds, that was the second biggest age group here. 20 of the hospitalizations. Small data, were still collecting it, thats the best data we have right now, we have to better define what it means to be recovered, recovered, back to 100 normal or just out of the hospital, i think were going to have to more clearly define that. You were right about the young people. Now we hear the president saying, maybe they get back to work. We have to track the right data to get a read on where we are. Thank you for the strength and consistency for the audience. Appreciate it. Strength and consistency, that takes us as a lever to what the federal government is doing. 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Tell your doctor about any infections and if you are or may become pregnant while taking rinvoq. Ready to take on ra . Talk to your rheumatologist about rinvoq relief. Rinvoq. Make it your mission. Nearly a dozen governors want military hospitals built in their state, d. O. D. , the department of defense says cant handle it, not this quickly. One man who knows the need and how to get it done kevin mcelina. Sorry about the timing tonight, whats going on on the hill, the fights between the left and right, and whos sneaking what into the bill. How dangerous is that given the enormity of the task that the federal agencies face . I think its concerning, because last week was a really important week on a variety of levels, you look back at a crisis, you can see a point where you start to take concerted action, and there are a lot of things that happened last week with the activation of fema, to alert level one, the National Response coordination center, hhs, coordinating federal and state and local governments, you and part of that was some nonpartisan unity emerging on the hill. That i got two pieces of legislation done. Important response to this crisis. That bill on the economy is even more important i think. Propping up the airline and Hospitality Industry that needs that relief. Helping our employees on a paycheck to paycheck basis or in gig economies. We got to get that flowing so people feel comfortable staying home and following advice of our Public Health experts. 50 states all have exposure to the pandemic. How do you handle Something Like that on the federal level . Yeah. The scale and the scope of this crisis is just massive. And its unlike anything ive seen. The last emergency i oversaw at dhs was hurricane dorian. We had four states implicated devastating effect on the bahamas off the coast and the level of information coming from fema headquarters was overwhelming. Think about 50 states and 150 countries abroad. You are right to focus on the data. Datadriven analysis is whats going to help make good policy. Its going oh keep the decisions flowing that are responsive to the crisis and will get us through this. Why no dhs at the table on the task force . Theyre there. Acting secretary chad wolf is there. Hes been instrumental in advising on how to do some of the travel restrictions. How to maintain critical trade arteries on both the northern and southern border and participating in some of the briefings at the white house. Shouldnt he be like one of the main seats . Isnt the reach of the agency kind of right up the alley of this in. I think they are there. And i think the added recommendation to have fema take the operational lead and have the health and Human Services and cdc personnel embed at the fema Operation Center is a great combination of the operational and logistical muscle of fema and its outreach. Its connections regionally to the Emergency Managers in all the states. Do you think you need to have the to have the power to trigger manufacturing done . You heard my brothers argument earlier its all about ventilators and the only way owes going to get them is if the companies here are told to make them right now. How powerful how important is that power . So we got to get the ventilators made, one way or another. And i am hearing the same thing. Governors asking for support from across the country. I think we need to prioritize that in the hotspots like new york, first and foremost. And the supply Chain Task Force thats been set up by fema is supposed to manage that process. Working with what we have in the stockpile. Combined with the needs from out in all the states and regions were experiencing this virus and then going to the private sector to fill the gap. And theyre looking at that right now. That is a massive challenge. Combining those Three Streams of information and getting that flowing logistically. My sense is thats starting to happen. But were obviously going to need to see it very quickly to keep pace with this crisis. Let me ask you something as i let you go. First, i ask you, please come back because i need you more on this show to help explain these situations. And i wish i had more time with you tonight. Quickly, tony fauci, how important was he when you were there and why . Yeah. So dr. Fauci is a national treasure. Hes the kind muof civil servan expert you absolutely need to tell you the truth. To give you the hard facts even when they dont accord with the hope forward path of a crisis. And i saw him in the ebola crisis, in the 2016 helping provide advice to manage that. He is a tremendous person. Hes indicative of the kind of Civil Servants we have that are fighting to get this job done. And i would be honored to come back because i think to hold all of us accountable is critical and we have got to steal ourselves for a hard period ahead. But i do think the machinery is moving and pushing in the right direction in a more concerted way and i am optimistic that were going to keep pushing through it. Kevin, you have always been straight with me. You have had a hard job. You answered every question i ever had. You are always welcome on my show. Thank you and thank you for your perspective on this. I will see you again soon. Why did i ask kevin about dr. Anthony fauci . Because he wasnt on the podium again today at the white house. Why . When you guys have come to rely on him so much. He has the most valuable commodity in politics. You believe him. 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He is a member of the Coronavirus Task force. Director of the National Institute of allergy and infectious diseases. But more than that, hes been like americas grandpa. Instead, today, in his absence, we got this. Where is dr. Fauci right now . Why is he not in this briefing . I was just with him for a long time. Oh hes at the Task Force Meeting right now. We have a Task Force Meeting. Does he agree with you about the need to reopen the economy soon . Well, he doesnt not agree. I dont know what that means but it doesnt matter and heres why. Is dr. Fauci important to our economic decisions . No. Why would we make fauci a foil to trump . Why would we not want to do that . Do you know whats more dangerous than covid . Telling the truth about trump as a member of the executive branch. No one survives that. Why put fauci in a position of having to admit that trump is wrong or lying when we already know that to be the case . You literally sometimes leave fauci with no good answer other than what do you want me to do . The answer to his question is help us get through this. Fauci must be kept bigger than the politics of trump. Just as our collective wellbeing has led us away from the petty gripes and calls from coast to coast for lawmakers to be not right or left but reasonable. Why . More people are getting sick. I do not see how we get through this any better or faster without tony fauci present and upfront. So lets test trumps truth abuse directly. And let fauci have the power to Test Solutions to this pandemic. He needs to be on the podium. Thank you for watching. Cnn tonight with d. Lemon starts right now. You know, you guys had the on last week, was a town hall. And then on friday, you worked because i worked on sunday, right . So thank you for doing that. Heres the thing. As im watching, i kept saying why why are we even listening to the president . Why but hes the president. I understand that. Yep. Why arent we just listening to the experts . I kept watching your brother. And my mom kept calling me and saying, wait, is chriss brother the president now . He should be because hes doing what the president should be doing. And then shell call me during the president , say, why are we even listening to him . Nothing hes saying is factual. Why is he talking about the money he gave