Is that the best or worst move right now . And we have news on what democrats are planning for mr. Mueller. We have the plan and the stakes. What do you say . Lets get after it. Not me, boss. Thats what you heard from the labor secretary today, a lot of excuses. Dont blame me. Blame them for the Jeffrey Epstein sweetheart deal. Simply put, the Palm Beach State Attorneys Office was ready to let epstein walk free. The former Palm Beach County state Attorney Says that is bs. A statement was put out saying, quote, federal prosecutors do not take a backseat to state prosecutors. True, by the way. Mr. Acosta brokered a secret plea deal that resulted in a nonprosecution agreement in violation of the crime victims rights act. Okay . He says his office took the epstein case to a grand jury that returned a single indictment. The u. S. Attorneys office produced a 53page indictment that was abandoned when acosta cut the deal. So what does this mean now . Lets bring in senator Amy Klobuchar among Many Democrats demanding acostas resignation. Senator, good to have you on the show as always. Thanks, chris. All right. So it goes like this, we dont like the deal. The deal kind of stinks. Lots of deals stink. Why should the labor secretary resign so many years later . The labor secretary actually has jurisdiction over Human Trafficking and this is something that should be a major focus of his. And what weve now learned is that he made a deal behind closed doors without consulting with the victim. We already have a Florida District Court judge who says this is illegal. As a former prosecutor, could he have been following the Office Protocol and not the crime victims act as well. I dont buy this. Youre supposed to do your job without fear or favor and your mission is to make sure that justice happens no matter who the defendant is, no matter how connected they are. What i saw here today is that he first blames the victims, he says they didnt want to come forward so i didnt want to give me a break. You have cases all the time, especially when you have a major defendant like this with a sex ring, where maybe youre going to have to make sure the girls are protected. Sometimes we even would subpoena someone to testify just to be able to get the bad guy. All right . He did other cases that were of similar subject matter where there were much different prosecution angles. Let me ask you we had one many minnesota recently where the u. S. Attorneys office got over 30 years for two girls this is the most lenient sentence prosecutors have ever heard of. Let me ask you this you guys knew about his role when he came up as labor secretary. He was asked about the epstein prosecution. I didnt support him and a number of my colleagues didnt and some of this information had not come out until later. But i did want to really point out something please. Because this is the issue of the day here where he suddenly is blaming the local county attorney and i want to make clear as someone who had that job before, when the feds would come in and say they sometimes we would go back and forth and say we think we can do this one. Sometimes they would say okay. But a lot of times we would go where we thought we could get the longer sentence or they would take it. And we had very cordal relations. But most of the time they would be able to take the case because they could get the longer sentence and have the resources. I put a judge in prison, my office did. But the point of the story is, i dont buy this at all. I believe that local da who basically says, come on, the u. S. Attorneys office here had this long indictment and they should have gotten a good sentence and certainly not given him a deal where he can work six days a week, leave jail and go to work making billions of dollars while other people in the same circumstance, like the one i just mentioned, go away for 30 years. I understand all that. And it is interesting that secretary acosta did not bring up his work with Human Trafficking in his role as a cabinet secretary when it is under his auspices. Thats a physical therapy point a fair point and he didnt mention it. A bill is coming out tomorrow, i understand, to deal with the conditions at the border. And it covers separation and some other guarantees of how people are going to be kept. However, the main role for congress in whats going on down there is not addressed which is, the set of rules, the statutory rules that are causing a lot of the constipation on the border, why isnt the senate bill addressing that . Well, were were going to put this bill out tomorrow and i think what this bill gets at is some standards for detention so that you dont have situations where kids dont have toothbrushes or soap. They cant meet the standards because theyre overwhelmed and part of being overwhelmed is resources, part is rules. Okay. The other thing were going to address is you stop the separation of kids from their parents. The other thing that must be addressed which is a much bigger issue that would resolve all of this is comprehensive reform which gives us the money, because the score on that bill, the amount of money we would bring in from 2013 was Something Like 158 billion reduction of the deficit. Think if youre talking about improving these facilities and if youre talking about allowing for asylum cases like they should be to be processed in the countries where the people live. That would be great. We would be able to fix a lot of this, chris. That would be great. But this president , every step of the way has said, no. Even when we tried to help the two million dreamers in this country with support of senators, he said no. Do it without him and make him veto a bill. Go around him. If youre going to wait for the president , hes not going to work with you on it, senator. Thats why i want to be president. I believe we can get this done within the first year and we can stop this chaos at the border. And you need someone in the white house thats able to work to get this bill done so we stop the chaos. We have comprehension Immigration Reform which would be so much better for our economy when we dont have enough workers in Nursing Homes and we have the administration continuing to threaten to deport people who are here on temporary status legally. Its a much bigger problem. Mueller comes in next week. Im in doing the research for this, what are their plans . Let me reserve the thinking on this. What happens if mueller doesnt wow people with his testimony. He says hes going to stick to the report. I think theres plenty in that report that people havent read that would be surprising to them. But what if he doesnt deliver . What if the needle doesnt move after the mueller testimony . Should an impeachment inquiry be abandoned as an effort . Is that going to be some indicator for you . You know, i have been in favor of moving forward yes. With impeachment proceedings because i see those ten points of obstruction of justice. That aside, i think it is very important for the nation to be able to hear director mueller testify. They should be able to hear it. And by the way, even if he just sticks to the facts of the report, it is a lot easier to digest the former fbi director under a republican president exactly outlining everything that russia did. We had a classified briefing today about what went on with russia and i can i cant reveal what happened there, but i can say that what we know publicly and that is that director mueller said in his report that in a systemic and sweeping fashion, russia interfered in our election. And what i would love to get out of this testimony of director mueller is the public to see the two ways they did it very clearly, one, by trying to hack into election equipment, and then secondly, with the propaganda and the lies and those fake divisive acts. People need to understand it because were starting to see it again. And thats why i want to have my backup paper ballot bill, the bill that i tried many, many times to get through, passed, were going to try it again in the coming weeks and then secondly to make sure that we do something about these ads, these political ads, when theres no rules of the road for those big social media companies. Senator klobuchar, always happy to have you on the show to talk about what matters to the american people. Ill see you again soon. Ill see you soon. Good luck going forward. When were talking about epstein, you got to stick to what is common sense on these things, all right . Dont get buried in legalese, dont follow the fingerpointing. Lets take a look at the facts of what we know about how it was handled. Okay . We are going to dissect them with one of the best investigators around. What was done that seems fine and what was not, next. Announcer one on one brought to you by miralax. It works with the water in your body to unblock your system naturally. On miralax works with the water in your body to unblock your system naturally. And it doesnt cause bloating, cramping, gas, or sudden urgency. Miralax. Look for the pink cap. Hi. Maria ramirez mom maria Maria Ramirez. Mcdonalds is committing 150 Million Dollars in tuition assistance, education, and career advising programs. 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First question, meeting with the Defendant Council in a hotel, multiple times, saying that meeting with him multiple times, at least once that we need of in a hotel. Saying that they kept starting and restarting the process, they were in control of it. It was very frustrating for us. The idea of him having prosecuted other cases with this subject matter and having very different outcomes, what does that all mean to you . So, chris, first lets start with this were talking about 2008, this isnt 1910 before women had the right to vote or something. And the facts of this case involve more than 30 victims all of whom were minors at the time that the criminal activity occurred, involved trafficking across state lines this was the real deal. It wasnt a oneoff. It was the real deal. Thats right. This is not a hesaidshesaid. This is the kind of thing that a reasonable juror, lets say, would acknowledge was wrong. And the very fact that there were so many victims all of whose testimony would have been fairly consistent and they had corroborating evidence in the form of phone records and flight manifests, suggest that there was quite a lot of evidence here and that does not pass the smell test in terms of what he said today in his press conference. His idea, look, the state, you know, i had to deal with the state. This was their case. Whens the last time you heard a federal prosecutor say that . Yeah, you know, the feds are typically happy to take a good case from the state. Lets remember that this started because of a complaint to the Palm Beach Police department in 2005. The Palm Beach Police department asked the fbi to get involved. The fbi that investigated and basically had a 53page indictment ready to go. Now at this point in the span of, you know, i think in the span of about six months, this translates into a plea deal where he then epstein pleads to these lesser charges in state court. Its important to remember one victim involved who was 17, you know, it was like the bestCase Scenario for him. And the most lenient deal i ever heard of, 18 months, 13 served. Six days a week on work release. And there was nothing that would have prevented the u. S. Attorneys office from continuing to investigate this further if they believe that there was not a strong case. Remember that trafficking cases do not have a statute of limitations. I believe as of 2003, which is why the Southern District of new york is actually able to indict epstein for some of the same conduct that florida was looking at. This is the same time frame and even some of the same facts. Why the public corruption unit being involved . What does that mean to you . You know, i dont know. I defer to prosecutors who have worked corruption cases. There is some nexus there, i would probably caution against jumping to big conclusions because public corruption can involve anything from lowlevel officials to highlevel officials in terms of their involvement nt involvement in this type of thing. I think its a bit premature to implicate certain people without more evidence. I agree. Thank you for helping us understand the context. Appreciate it. Now, politically, should the president have to own this acosta mess . On the one hand, what did the president know . He was vetted by the senate. On the other hand, this is his cabinet secretary in charge of Human Trafficking. So does he have to own that . About how the border . Should the president own the conditions at the border . Two Great Questions for a great debate. Lets get them both next. He lexn opportunity sales event. Lease the 2019 rx 350 for 389 a month, for 36 months, and well make your first months payment. Experience amazing. 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Acosta, not to blame the president for what acosta did back then, thats not fair. I dont care how good of friends or not the president was with epstein. My question is this, he is in charge of Human Trafficking, okay . His reputation in that area is at best sullied. Should this be a concern for the president . Look, chris, i think in this case, if you look at media counts from when this case was prosecuted in 2006, 2008, you know, secretary acosta was praised by many in the media for doing something that wasnt going to take place, getting a real conviction against a guy who was being let off on state charges. He didnt get a conviction. He took a plea. In you look at the affidavits by the career prosecutors involved here, he was the u. S. Attorney. As you know, chris, youre a lawyer, jacks a lawyer, the secretary didnt make the decision on this alone. He didnt he did cut the deal. Hes the name on the deal. Chris, he didnt overturn anybody. He went according with all of the people in his office, career prosecutors, fbi, what he got was a deal that no one else was getting at the time. So i think, look, its a terrible thing. Im glad that the Southern District of new york is prosecuting this guy whos by all accounts a really bad individual. And retrospect, maybe the case could have done something differently. The evidence must not have been there at the time because i promise you that the good men and women of the fbi back then in the Southern District of miami were doing their jobs. Do you think anybody there wanted to let this creep go . I promise you didnt i think its a legitimate question. Hold on a second. Lets be very clear, dave, dave, dave, dave, hold on. I like the reversal. You know how many times ive had to say that to you when we talk about the mueller probe. Because its a legitimate question. I thought it was length back then too. Im not casting you had a different perspective dave, lets go. Are you asking do you believe i dont. I dont think this was about investigators. I think it was about influence on the outside. Your take . Okay. Now theres a number of issues here. First of all acosta comes out today and says it was a different time. What was it 1908. This was 2008. In 2008, did you let child molesters get away . Was that the time we were living in . No that was the worst excuse. And then he blames it on state prosecutors. State prosecutors came out and said absolute lie, not remotely true. Were not talking about the fbi here, dave. I know you republicans hate the fbi and the i dont hate the fbi. Dont mischaracterize anything i say. Hold on. The fbi did their job and they got amazing evidence, about 30 women, a 53page indictment and what does acosta do, he lets him off the hook. He let him out of jail for six out of the seven days, why . Because hes rich. Hes represented by a law firm that acosta used to work for. They get together and say, should we let our buddy off . Its such a joke. Hold on. What doesnt hold water . Chris you really hold on. Hold on. Let me reset. Let me reset. First, other than the fact that acosta didnt do the work release part, that came after him, but the leniency was part of his negotiation. What im not getting from you in response is what made the deal okay when the witnesses were available then and they werent even told about the deal . Chris, listen, im not i cant litigate each piece and portion of that thing. Im not what doesnt make sense . Chris, i cant give you an answer on that. Youre saying it doesnt make sense. What doesnt make sense . Im not saying it doesnt make sense. Its this giant collusion between i worked at this law firm, were going to let this bad guy go. Its not acosta says that the pressure from the defense counsel acosta says things ive never heard from a federal prosecutor before. These Defense Attorneys, they were so good, dave, they just kept coming and there was so much pressure, they kept messing with our process and making us redo the deal so we have to do it over. When have you ever heard a federal prosecutor talk about a defense counsel that way . Im not here to defend the words of secretary acosta today. We know how the offices work. Listen, i promise you that each one of those people in those offices, wanted to put this creep behind bars, they did the best job they could. Its not about the integrity of the fbi. Its not about the integrity of the fbi. Its about the outcome and who manipulated it. These are complex cases, chris. There are lots of prosecutors involved here and at the time i promise you, they made the best case they could. Final point. Go ahead. There was not a lot of prosecutors involved. It was acosta. He made the decision. Really he was so lenient on a child molester. Acostas bestCase Scenario is, i was such a terrible prosecutor that i was overwhelmed by the Defense Attorneys who were so good. Im such a terrible prosecutor and lawyer, so then why are you the labor secretary . His worstCase Scenario is, a lot of connected people wanted this guy off. His middle Case Scenario is, come on, he was rich. I couldnt put away a rich guy like this. Imagine if a poor or a middle class average american had been accused of molesting dozens of kids, do you think they would have let him off like this . No way. Because epstein was connected. You care about the facts. Whats the fact . Theres an affidavit on file, go look it up, from a career prosecutor who was in charge of this case, not secretary acosta. He did the he did the negotiating of the deal. He owns that. He owns that. Admit, chris. How about trump . Acosta is a liar . No, no, admit, there was a female lead prosecutor acosta says he did the deal. Dont try to blame women. Thats disgusting. Youre lame. Stick to the facts. Stick to the facts. Lets listen, this discussion has ended its utility for tonight. Were there multiple people on the deal . Yes. Does acosta own that he negotiated the deal . Yes. Nothing else is relevant. We will learn more there are lots of other things that are relevant here, chris. There are lots of other prosecutors who wanted to put this guy away for a long time. He did the deal. What did trump know and when did he know it. Thats not an interest for me at this point. I respect the passion. Ill talk to you again. All right, youre going to hear more about that case and its going to have a lot of political purchase. Wait for the closing. Its relevant. Hes the sitting labor secretary. But theres more. Another story, the president has promised Mass Immigration sweeps across the country. Do you remember how muscular that was for his base. Now his new top immigration official says, oh, theyre still coming. 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You were brought in for fresh eyes on a troubling situation. What do you make on these reports of inadequate md adequa care. And only about eight or nine months and of course youve reported on the numbers that happened in may, really a near unprecedented spike in numbers, but that wasnt the toughest part. The toughest part was that those apprehensions were three quarters families and unaccompanied children. And when you talk about overcrowding, the Border Patrol in particularly was designed to handle individual, adult male mexicans. They dont have the facility which means shortterm turn around. They dont have the facility so the way the system is supposed to work is that they then off load detainees to i. C. E. But i. C. E. Is oversubscribed in their detention facilities. And so the pipeline has become clogged. You dont think its about if it gets clogged anywhere, it shows up front. You dont think its malfeasance, people doing malfeasance on the part of congress. The troubling part of the report is people saying they were told to drink toilet water and all that. Yeah, yeah. No. And, chris, one of the things i appreciate about you, youve looked yourself, youve developed your own opinions based on facts and i appreciate that. And i know a lot of other people do too. And what i saw was for instance children being cared for well in a Border Patrol facility that was never designed to house children. And you of course saw the inspector generals report and the pictures in there and that was largely a function of raw numbers. This system for the fourth month in a row is over 100,000 people coming over the border. I looked at data all the way back to 2012. Theres never been a single month over that mark its true. The numbers are astronomical. They are. And theres only so much you can do. Lets talk about what is being done and this the part i dont understand. I dont have any problem with the law being enforced. I think that if you come in illegally, you have a problem, you have to deal with it. But i dont understand sweeps now because i dont know how you can add to the capacity problem. I dont know who will process these people. Youre overcapacity now. Why do the sweeps now . It seems like a nightmare scenario. Well, the fact that its even news worthy that i. C. E. Is doing its job which is as you noted to pursue, really, first ask, but then pursue those who wont respond, on the removal orders. So theres about a million removal orders where people have gone all the way through a long process, due process and so forth, and thats the pool that i. C. E. Has to work from in terms of removals. There are other things i. C. E. Does. But in the removal space, what they try to do, operationally, is set up to process the particular people in that pool quickly so that they dont just jam them all in Detention Centers they dont have the manpower to do that. It seems to be this is a political play on harshness. Were not talking about doing all of it. Im saying that doing any of it is a political message of harshness, but i see it as adding to a contamination right now. Over half of these people are families and kids. You cant put more stress on the system. You cant fore fit the other parts of the pipeline. Were talking about the crowded points well before that right on the front end when people come across the border. But you also have to have to work on the back end. Just like in my agency, were working to knock down the asylum backlog of cases while supporting the border effort. I. C. E. Has to do the same thing in its own realm of authority where they have to continue to enforce removal orders all the while backing up cbp in terms of detention with the border crisis. But why add to a system thats overtaxed. Why not prioritize that right now heres my real question, it seems that the president wants to choose to keep hammering on the harshness and keep hammering on enforcement and doing after them and not dealing with the true crisis of humanity and caring for these kids and families which he never prioritizes. Chris, you said yourself that its important to enforce the laws as written. And i would note that the appropriation bill that passed last month, most of that bill went to care for children and what happened. Yes. So we went from about 2,500 kids in these facilities, not designed for them, down to below 350 with only a handful, maybe 20 or so that have been there more than that requisite 72 hours, which is our target time for those kids to be placed in appropriate facilities for children. And when Congress Actually stepped up to do that one small part of its job, the system started to work with respect to those children. We have not seen congress do that either with asylum loopholes which are fair point. Nor with adults for detention which is what you and i are talking about, not just fair point. But were still getting reports, ken, and i know this is why you were sent down there, we got one off arizona that was reported on by nbc first last night that the conditions are beneath the standard of care that we expect from ourselves in this country. That seems to me to be the most important piece of this. And that should take all the energy until it is dealt with the right way and then you deal with capacity and you deal with enforcement once this crisis period is gone. Well, but you you just excluded one item that is the solution from the overcrowding and that is that congress has to allocate the funds to provide adequate facilities. That is congresss they just gave you fourplus billion dollars. Thats right. And that as i told you, most of that went toward care for children, not just detention, medical care, transportation, the things we need to take care of those children correctly. We also need to expand the capacity with respect to families and adults. I hear you about expanding capacity. I hear you about capacity. I hear you about the rules. I hear that its not done. The president s priorities, we disagree on. I go on the facts of what i see on that. You are always welcome Ken Cuccinelli. Im going to need you to come back. Good luck down there. I hope you can make things better. Were taking it step by step. We will. Ken, thank you. Lets lighten up a bite. This is a what would you do. Youre driving on the freeway, money starts to rain out of the sky. Real money. Do you do what they are doing . Do you drive by . Is there some third answer . D. Lemon and i will deal with a real life ethical dilemma, and i think tell you what i would do next. Eh, ust feels too complicated, you know . 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I have heard those words and these stories firsthand all over the country. I have driven the streets with my team to see girls forced to walk the same for sex for money. If not, they face consequences. We did a documentary on this. See it on hln on demand. This is one of the most hifden problems in society. Spare me who was better friends with epstein. I dont care about that. Spare me what bothered me most from acosta today. This. The message to victims is come forward. Come forward . Why would they come forward after what you did . You didnt even tell them their abuser wasnt going away adds expected. What he did is proof of why they dont come forward because the trafficker won. The bad guy won. And the stories about this guy fit the mold of what is happening all over outside the world of rich and powerful. The average age a child first becomes a victim of sex trafficking, 12 to 14. These girls have sex with ten men a night. Six nights a week. 240 sexual partners a month. How many kids . They dont know. They can estimate. So many are are afraid to come forward so many are lost in the system of kids gone in the society. American kids. So, why should mr. Acosta be judged now for then . Its a fair question. The two reasons we must consider. Because it was kept quiet and the deal didnt get scrutinized at the time. Why didnt it . Second. Hes in charge of Human Trafficking for us. As the secretary of labor. His biggest case on the issue gave the most lenient deal ever. He didnt mention his work in the area today in a real way. We knew he tried to cut funding for sex trafficking victims. Was that about budget or priority . The fact he doesnt get it as evidenced by this earlier deal. Can he be trusted to own it. Those are the things to consider. Thank you for watching tonight. We get the answers remember the problem its so much bigger than epstein. Cnn tonight starts now. Its hard to even listen to that young lady that you played. 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